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Drive Thru News #11 - June ’21 · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to the drive through episode 11.
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  This is our monthly recap.
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  We put together a menu of automotive motorsport and random car adjacent news.
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  Now let's pull up to the window for some automotive goodness.
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  That's right, and tonight our.
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  special guest host filling in for Brad is none other than
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  Donovan Lara, CEO of Garage Ride.
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  He's a huge fan of our drive thru series and we're delighted to have
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  him on the show tonight as a co host for our monthly news series.
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  Let's kick it off.
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  Tanya in studio.
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  I think we're going to start off with Show
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  me the money.
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  At least that's what the government is saying.
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  That's not what Ford wants to do.
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  Apparently they've been hit with a 1.
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  3 billion dollar penalty for importing Transit Connect vans.
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  Aren't those the vans that they make?
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  They were previously built in Turkey, imported into the United
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  States at a very low import tax.
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  Then apparently they were stripped of their interiors and then
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  reconfigured to be the transportation vans that they're known to be here.
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  The U.
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  S.
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  Customs Control, they stepped in and said, um, Actually, you guys were
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  paying the wrong tariff that whole time.
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  Ooh,
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  back taxes, interest, and penalties.
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  So now it's
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  time to pay us back at the 25 percent rate, not the 2.
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  5 percent rate.
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  They lost their first Supreme Court fight.
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  The Supreme Court declined to hear their case, so they ended up having to pay.
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  Some losses, but they're still trying to fight some additional penalties and things
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  like that, arguing that at the time, the rules that were put in place, they were
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  abiding by them, which I guess they're playing the, well, y'all had it wrong.
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  That's not our fault.
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  I
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  mean, I've done that before.
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  I mean, who hasn't done that?
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  That's not, I'm not paying that bill.
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  That's your fault.
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  That's not my fault.
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  I mean, I can't
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  blame them if that's how it went down.
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  This is the old chicken tax thing where it's 25%.
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  So first of all, why is that even still a tax?
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  And second of all, is a light van, a transit van, really a light truck?
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  That's kind of the rule, right?
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  It's pickup trucks or any kind of trucks that come into us.
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  That's really gray area to me.
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  And I didn't understand in the article too, where they talk about,
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  they bring the transit connects over and take the windows out.
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  What does that have to do with the
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  seats in the windows?
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  Maybe that's, was their angle that in that configuration of how
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  they were built in Turkey, somehow it doesn't qualify as a truck.
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  Well, they're not
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  fully assembled at that point.
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  So if you think about it that way, it's coming over as partially assembled.
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  They filled them with chickens and brought them over.
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  They'd probably be okay.
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  Let's face it, Transit Connect is built on what, a Ford Focus chassis or something?
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  It's not even a truck, it's really a car at the end of the day.
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  I can see the bigger Transit, like the one we're used to seeing in Britain,
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  I think that's equivalent to like a Ranger or an F 150 or something like
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  that, but if we're talking about the little guys, that's just a car.
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  But Ford won't be outdone.
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  We talk about Chrysler a lot on this show and how the, you know, this is the, the
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  age of the big muscle engines, right?
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  The 800, 900, 000 horsepowers, all them HRSPRs.
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  And it's your time to get one before the EV revolution takes over and
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  Skynet is in control of everything.
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  But Ford said, you know what?
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  We're going to play too Chrysler.
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  7.
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  3 liter twin turbo EcoBoost V8.
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  Mark, that's right.
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  But it's not going to come in the Raptor and it's not going to come in the Mustang.
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  It's going to come in the Super Duty pickups.
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  So this is the EcoBoost V8 that everybody's been waiting for.
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  If you're a landscaper,
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  so I'm wondering, so we know that Evie revolution is coming in 2030.
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  I'm wondering if this is kind of their last dying attempt to keep good old boys
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  on with the gas engines, because it's not going to be a seamless transition.
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  I can't imagine.
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  Everybody's going to go.
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  Yep.
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  I want to be an Evie.
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  But it also seems like this was probably in the works before they announced
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  where they're going to move to Evie, you know, and I know we're going to
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  talk about Evie's and things later.
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  It's really kind of that twist of let's make a faster truck.
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  But now we have an Evie coming that weighs a lot more and is a lot faster too.
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  At what point does it end?
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  I mean, how much do you need a twin turbo 7.
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  3?
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  Of course you do.
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  Do you really, maybe this will end up in something else.
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  Well, here's
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  the disappointing part.
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  If Chrysler had built this truck, 1500 horsepower and 9, 000, right.
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  Built on a Mesozoic era Mercedes.
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  I'm sure, you know, AMG power plant, but this, the thing that gets me about
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  these big motors, and we had a debate about this not long ago about that 9.
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  9 liter Lingenfelter Suburban, and I won't get into that drama, but,
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  but what gets me about this motor 7.
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  3 liters twin turbo.
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  430 horsepower and 475 torques.
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  I need double those numbers to justify this motor.
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  And I think to your point, Donovan, when the EV comes out, the EV is going to
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  feel faster in the same truck because the torque distribution, the way it
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  just puts the power down immediately.
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  You don't have to build up to those 475.
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  It's just boom right away.
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  Maybe it's a little bit of both.
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  Keep the guys engaged, but also be like, look how much cooler the EV is.
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  You can get all those Torquems right away.
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  Well, it's interesting you say that because, you know,
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  typically diesel, right?
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  Is, well, I shouldn't say always twice the horsepower, but it's usually up
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  there with these numbers, 430 and 475, that seems uncharacteristic.
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  It should be 430 and 700, 800 foot pounds.
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  So I wonder what the long game is here.
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  Maybe this is, they're going to put this in something to make it faster.
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  It's confusing to me.
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  It seems like a weird time and it seems like a weird number.
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  So maybe there's something we don't know that's going on.
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  I wouldn't mind it in the Mustang and then turn it up to 11.
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  I mean, 1100, I think it would be pretty cool to have that twin turbo V8 in
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  there with a factory warranty to boot.
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  But moving on, we got to talk about EVs a little bit.
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  The recent sales numbers for May in our, you know, friendly country of
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  Norway, tell us that the Mustang Mach E, sorry, just Mach E, we shall not say
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  Mustang, even though that's what it is.
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  The Ford Escape.
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  Let's not digress on the poor name choice, but the Mach E, apparently.
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  Was the highest selling electric vehicle in Norway, selling out Tesla.
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  So what you're telling me is the Will Ferrell commercials from the
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  Superbowl didn't really do it.
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  Uh,
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  I think this is a clear indication that Norway and the rest of the world
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  doesn't understand how cool Elon Musk is.
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  That's gotta be what it is, right?
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  They're still fanboys of everything American.
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  So Ford's got one.
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  It's really cool, but maybe they just don't get, you know, the whole Tesla.
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  So, so you say that, and then it says.
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  That the model three ranked six on the sales list.
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  So I'm thinking Norway must be fan boys of a lot more than just Ford,
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  because Toyota and Skoda were higher on the list than the model three.
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  So,
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  although the RAV4 is up there better than the model three, I don't
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  know what that says about Norway.
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  Is that really a RAV4 or is that the Hilux?
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  It says RAV4 hybrid.
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  And what is the Enyaq from Volkswagen?
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  The Skoda.
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  Is that how you say that?
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  Yeah.
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  The
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  brand is Skoda.
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  Can you imagine?
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  Hey, sweetheart.
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  Tonight we're taking the Enyaq.
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  I don't think that works.
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  And we're sleeping in a yurt.
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  So there's also a headline about the Mach E outproduced the gas powered Mustang.
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  You gotta take it with a little bit of a discerning eye because part of the,
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  I think there were only a thousand cars more than the gas powered Mustang
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  because of the semiconductor shortage.
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  They prioritized building the electric.
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  Cars versus the gas powered cars.
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  So there could be a little bit of funniness in those numbers, a little bit
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  of artificial inflation there that the Mach E actually had higher production.
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  Yes, because they forced higher production in a way.
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  I think we need a little more time.
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  We need the world to balance itself back out and not have all these production
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  shortages and supply chain issues.
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  And then see how these numbers.
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  Line out.
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  I mean, inevitably I would imagine that yes, the Mach E will probably
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  eventually outpace its gasoline brother.
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  I don't know the numbers on this car, but is the price of a Mach E compared to what?
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  The V6 Mustang?
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  The GT Mustang?
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  The V6 that they don't make anymore?
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  Right.
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  It's got to be faster, right?
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  And it's the new kind of cool kid on the block.
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  I'll admit when I first heard about the Mach E, I thought it was super lame.
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  I saw one actually at Amelia Island.
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  They had the race trim version.
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  They had this, and you know, we all saw the hype videos, right?
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  The drifting and the sliding videos.
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  I think there's just a cool factor in here that is present with this because
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  it's new, it's shiny that, you know, the Mustang is kind of aged a little bit,
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  even though they keep updating every couple of years, but I don't know if I
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  hate to say that, but I think it's cool.
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  I mean, I'm looking at the picture now, the red one.
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  Would I buy one?
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  Probably not, but I kind of see the appeal a little bit.
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  You know, I think it'd be cool.
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  I'd love to get hold of one and burn the tires off it for sure.
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  When I saw it for the first time in the DC auto show in the, before four
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  times, you know, pre COVID in the right color, the mock E is a stunner in the
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  wrong color, like that baby vomit beige.
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  That they're offering it in.
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  It's absolutely terrible.
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  It just, it just looks awful.
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  So I think color has a lot to do with it.
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  The red is really nice that they chose kind of similar to the Mazda red that's
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  out there and what's available in the Mustangs really gets your attention.
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  At the end of the day, what I have trouble with, despite the kind of like shooting
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  break design, it kind of reminiscent, I've said it before of like a Scirocco or, or
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  Corrado, if you look at it with like a half drunk, one eye open type of deal.
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  Is that it's still a Ford Escape with electric power plant.
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  And so for me, that's a pill to swallow.
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  It's like, there's such an upcharge and it's like, is it worth it?
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  But it's cool.
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  And compared to some of the other EVs, yes, but no.
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  And it's so there's a lot of consternation there.
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  And so I think I want to wait a little bit longer and maybe there'll be a.
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  Mach e gt and, you know, big tires and flares and spoilers and stuff.
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  Reminiscent of the 1400, right?
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  Or something like that, that's a little bit more appealing to
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  the boy racer in me, you know?
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  And, and we'll see if that that ever happens.
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  It looks like they start at 42 8 is what I'm seeing, so, whew.
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  Yeah, I don't know.
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  I'd like to see the performance numbers between that and the
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  Mustang.
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  Speaking of chip shortages, it's probably no surprise, and we reported
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  it more than once, that the chip shortages are across the board.
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  Ford is not alone, Toyota's not alone, Volkswagen, and of course Chevy.
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  And we recently heard that, you know, the excuse is that because
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  of chip shortages, they're going to stop producing the Camaro.
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  We talked about that, I believe, on the last episode of the drive thru
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  or the one before, but now they have halted production of the Corvette.
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  And I'm going to say maybe that's not a bad idea because they can fix some of the
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  outstanding recalls with the C8 Corvette.
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  So if you're in line to get a C8, you're going to have to wait a little bit longer.
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  And if you were fortunate to get a 2020 C8, the value on those is now going up.
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  Can I say thank you for stopping production on the Camaro?
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  I don't know if last time you're out, start counting V6 Camaros.
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  No offense to anybody that's got a Camaro out there, but they are.
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  All over the place.
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  Yeah, I think the C8s are really cool.
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  It's amazing to me though.
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  You know, even in 2021 with the premium they were getting, you know, from people
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  in the aftermarket, you see them on the, you know, the used car lots right now.
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  There's a mini dealer not far from here.
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  They have three.
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  So if they're that hot, you know what I mean?
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  How are they ended up in, in some of these scenarios, but yeah, I'm with you.
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  I think, you know, it's going to be one of those where hopefully they do have a
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  chance to correct some of those things.
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  It makes me think of the air conditioning and the, the radiators are in the front.
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  You know, hit a lot of pebbles and bruise, all those veins, you know,
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  was that too soon to come to market?
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  The real problem is that your typical Corvette driver, not
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  to offend any Corvette drivers.
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  And I love the Corvette club and I work with them on many occasions is that
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  that target demographic, I would say some of those guys are ready for the
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  mid engine car, but I think having.
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  Moved away from the traditional platform, you begin to realize
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  that the cockpit is small.
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  It's laid out very different.
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  It's not the most comfortable car in the world.
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  If you've driven other mid engine Elise's or Porsche's and whatnot,
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  they're kind of awkward and they're not easy to get in and out of because of
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  the door shape and things like that.
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  And so maybe there's a turnoff there.
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  For me, the big turnoff with the C8 is the back, like whoever
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  designed the back of that thing.
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  Cut off the rear end of a Camaro and slapped it on an Acura NSX.
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  And this is how we got the C8.
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  Style isn't everything, I get it.
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  I think there's some shortcomings with the Corvette that weren't foreseen.
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  I would still argue that we need to keep the classic front engine rear
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  drive Vette along with this mid engine under a different name and offer both.
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  Because the C7, it was like, man, finally got it right.
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  But then we discontinued it.
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  Yeah.
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  Race proven.
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  Absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  We're still talking about Fords.
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  I know it sounds like we're talking about bow ties, but in reality,
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  we're still talking about Ford.
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  They are our showcase this month.
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  The other exciting EV that they've got going on, aside from, you
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  know, the Mach E, however you feel about it, is the F 150.
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  Lightning, which I think we had talked about last month.
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  They finally gave it a name instead of calling it the F 150E.
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  They're bringing back that Lightning name, which is very suiting to an electric.
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  They debuted just over a month ago.
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  And as of about two weeks ago, it would already hit a
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  hundred thousand reservations.
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  Wow.
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  Pretty good.
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  So there is definitely a lot of interest.
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  in this truck.
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  But the real thing to talk about here is the weight of this vehicle.
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  You know, I saw this, this article, I was like, let me click it.
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  Cause you know, Oh, they've got a, you know, big weight problem or something.
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  I'm like, okay, what are they talking about?
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  I never thought about it before.
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  Cause I'm not a really a truck person.
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  I don't have a truck.
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  So I don't think in terms of truck tonnage, but I was blown
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  away for a moment when I read how much this sucker is going away.
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  6, 500 pounds.
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  Which is 35 percent increase over its gas cousin, which is
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  because of the huge battery.
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  The weight of the battery is 1, 800 pounds alone.
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  The weight of the battery is practically the weight of my car.
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  I thought lithium ions were supposed to be light.
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  1, 800 pounds.
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  What are they making it out of?
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  Lead?
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  I don't
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  know.
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  And then apparently the Model 3, because they wanted to give
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  you a little perspective here.
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  The Tesla Model 3 actually weighs a thousand pounds more than a Honda Civic.
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  I'm assuming the newer Honda Civic.
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  Oh, you mean the Accord?
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  But, I mean, wow!
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  These things are heavy.
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  And so when I saw 6, 500 pounds, the immediate thing that came to my mind
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  is Living down here in the South, rolling around in a lowered hatchback.
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  So many trucks roll up next to me that their side mirrors are sometimes
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  over the roofline of my car.
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  They don't weigh 6, 500 pounds, but if one of them ever T boned me through an
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  intersection, y'all, it was a good run.
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  I can't even imagine one of these bad
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  boys.
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  It's like getting hit by a train with 35 percent more weight.
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  That's insane.
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  The E 150, I mean the lightning.
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  Isn't the only one to suffer concerns about weight.
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  It's not the heaviest one out there.
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  No, because we've all heard about the Hummer EV, right?
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  And how the Hummer was already a mastodon.
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  But you thought 6, 500 pounds was bad.
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  Imagine this blowing through an intersection and you're in your Miata.
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  9, 046 pounds.
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  Guess what the U S license restriction before you have to get
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  a different license, the vehicle must weigh under 10, 000 pounds.
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  That
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  is two Tesla model S's by the way, they weigh between 4, 500 and 4, 900 pounds.
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  That's two of those.
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  That is too much.
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  That's where this whole thing gets kind of crazy for me.
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  So, you know, years ago when Porsche came out with a turbo Cayenne,
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  you know, we talked about how fast you need to go in an SUV, right?
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  Sports cars.
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  I get it.
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  But, you know, do you need to go 200 miles an hour in an SUV?
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  So now with all of this EV, pretty much all that we're going to have
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  to change the standard by the way that we measure performance, right?
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  They're all going to be zero to 16, three point seconds or less.
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  How fast do you need to go in an EV, especially one that weighs twice?
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  Or maybe even in that case, sometimes three times the size of a regular car.
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  I think it's crazy.
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  I, you know, there's gotta be some kind of limitation there
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  because that's almost a weapon.
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  That's 9, 000 pounds coming at you.
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  And I would assume they probably taught that thing off at 150 miles an hour.
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  Don't know why it should go that fast, but there's gotta be something there.
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  And I'm assuming that's 9,000 pounds minus the six friends
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  you put in them each weighing, I don't know, 150 to 200 pounds each
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  But you still need a CDL to drive the thing.
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  But you know, Donovan, you brought up a really good point and it,
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  and it begs a couple questions.
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  If the cops are still running Crown Victoria's in Chargers, does
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  this fee that you can now outrun Motorola if you are that fast,
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  because a 200 mile an hour take hand.
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  I mean, that's pretty good.
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  Take a battery, runs out.
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  And then
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  here's the problem though, cop cars are reinforced and all that other stuff to
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  also be able to ram you as a tactic for stopping chases or things like that.
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  The crown Victoria against 9, 000 pounds.
• 17:41
  That's a good point.
• 17:42
  The cops
• 17:43
  are going to need to upgrade to like tractor trailer.
• 17:46
  It makes me think of, there was an article in garage ride about a month or
• 17:49
  two ago of the guy that keeps getting his, is it a model three impounded?
• 17:53
  Because he puts it on autopilot and jumps in the back seat because
• 17:55
  he wants to be chauffeured around and they just impound his car.
• 17:59
  And his whole thing is, well, screw you.
• 18:00
  I'll just buy another one.
• 18:01
  So he's on like his seventh or eighth model three, because he just wants
• 18:04
  to jump in the back seat and drive.
• 18:05
  I
• 18:05
  thought that wasn't.
• 18:06
  It's supposed to be possible because that accident that happened in Texas
• 18:09
  where they found the occupants in the backseat, which it's unclear whether
• 18:14
  the guy ended up in the backseat because he was trying to escape or
• 18:16
  not, or was really in the backseat.
• 18:18
  But allegedly, you know, Musk said that's impossible.
• 18:21
  You have to be sitting in the driver's seat.
• 18:24
  Now, but every time you talk to somebody that owns a Tesla.
• 18:26
  Edson on graduate.
• 18:27
  Paul is one of them.
• 18:28
  He'll tell you, Oh, they didn't do this part or they weren't
• 18:31
  really autonomously driving.
• 18:33
  They were, you know, so there's always that excuse, but my favorite.
• 18:36
  And then I'll stop talking about EVs is the guy that he went out to the salt flats
• 18:41
  and it wasn't even, it was pre EV and he put his, I think, suburban on cruise
• 18:45
  control, jumped in the back seat and had a sandwich and tried to see, I think
• 18:49
  he was doing a hundred miles an hour.
• 18:50
  Maybe it was faster than that.
• 18:51
  And that was his whole thing.
• 18:52
  So it's not autonomous or not.
• 18:56
  Idiots everywhere.
• 18:57
  So
• 18:57
  the other factor of this is kind of what happened.
• 19:00
  I hope the same thing doesn't happen, but it's probably inevitable because it's
• 19:03
  what happened to some extent when SUVs, the Ford Explorer, all those originally
• 19:09
  started coming to be is, well, I'm safer in my Ford Explorer if I'm in an accident.
• 19:14
  Well, yeah, because you weigh.
• 19:16
  Twice the weight of, you know, a Miata.
• 19:19
  So when you, you drive in your Ford Explorer, run over top
• 19:22
  of a Miata, of course you fare better than the guy in the Miata.
• 19:25
  So now we're at the same thing again, where you're being surrounded
• 19:28
  by vehicles that weigh two to three times as much as you.
• 19:32
  So now what?
• 19:33
  All the cars are just going to get even heavier.
• 19:35
  Yeah, that is a selling point.
• 19:36
  I'm glad you brought that up.
• 19:37
  Now I'm going to trade in the Explorer for something big and
• 19:39
  heavy to protect everybody.
• 19:40
  I kid.
• 19:41
  No, I kid.
• 19:41
  Yeah, you're, you're totally right.
• 19:42
  There should be something in there that totally, uh, evens the playing
• 19:46
  field.
• 19:46
  And you know what totally evens that playing field is a teaser
• 19:49
  for Brad's lost and found series.
• 19:51
  So let's switch gears a little bit here because you never guess what we found.
• 19:55
  Still talking about Fords.
• 19:57
  A young man recently purchased A Terminator Mustang.
• 20:01
  And for those of you that don't know what that is, it's an SN 95
• 20:04
  Mustang, 2004 era as they came from the factory with a supercharger.
• 20:09
  This was convertible and it has a whopping 534 miles.
• 20:14
  And as the story goes.
• 20:16
  This car was purchased in Alabama and sat in a garage for 15 years.
• 20:19
  It still has the factory stickers on it, the wrappings, the plastic
• 20:23
  over the seats, and the carpet.
• 20:24
  The car basically had never really been driven.
• 20:27
  It then was sold to another gentleman in New Hampshire who had it for four years.
• 20:31
  And then this young gentleman bought the car, looked into all its history to make
• 20:35
  sure that it was legit and the odometer hadn't been messed with and all that.
• 20:38
  And he bought it.
• 20:40
  He's now the proud owner of this Terminator Mustang and has subsequently
• 20:44
  driven it, modded it, and the value has plummeted through the floor.
• 20:47
  So congratulations on owning a new to you, a 15 plus year old Mustang Cobra.
• 20:53
  Yeah, I was trying to, for a minute there, I was trying to remember.
• 20:56
  It's like, there wasn't.
• 20:57
  Mustang and the Terminator movies.
• 21:01
  No, the Terminator was a package for the Mustang.
• 21:03
  And that's what gave you the supercharger and the body kit and some
• 21:05
  different wheels and some other stuff.
• 21:07
  I knew a couple of guys that had them.
• 21:09
  I rode in one.
• 21:10
  They were wicked fast for the day.
• 21:12
  I mean, we're talking 2004 era in those days, if you were making 400
• 21:16
  plus horsepower, like, you know, the LS twos and this thing, that was
• 21:19
  something to write home about now.
• 21:21
  400 horsepower.
• 21:22
  I mean, your regular old minivan has 400 horsepower.
• 21:25
  I think there's one last Ford story that we want to cover,
• 21:29
  you know, again, or exciting things happening right now.
• 21:32
  And the Bronco has recently debuted.
• 21:35
  And honestly, I have seen a lot of these recently,
• 21:39
  the full size one or the little guy, the sport, I've seen
• 21:41
  both.
• 21:41
  Really?
• 21:42
  Apparently they're a fan favorite down here.
• 21:44
  I've seen them in all sorts of different colors, sizes.
• 21:48
  Yeah.
• 21:48
  I was surprised to see so many in such a short period of time.
• 21:51
  So they are out and about and I don't, you know, they don't look terrible.
• 21:55
  That's saying a lot.
• 21:57
  I don't.
• 21:58
  I don't mind.
• 21:58
  I like seeing them on the road, but this person, of course, the Bronco
• 22:03
  got to be off roading all that good stuff built for tough for a reason.
• 22:08
  These folks, they were in Rio Ranch in Mexico, off roading on some trails
• 22:13
  and somehow managed to roll the Bronco down this steep Hill into this gully or
• 22:21
  ravine ish type, you know, area landed upside down, some things on its roof.
• 22:27
  Barrel roll down the hill
• 22:29
  on turtle
• 22:30
  spinning the tires.
• 22:31
  It can't right side itself, the driver, passenger, whoever they were fine.
• 22:35
  Kudos to the integrity of the passenger cabin can withstand a roll down.
• 22:41
  You know, the folks were out.
• 22:43
  You know, in the middle of nowhere, wherever this was, they
• 22:45
  started pinging, I think, local off road communities and whatnot.
• 22:48
  And of course, as you've heard, if you've listened to some of the other
• 22:51
  podcasts about that off roading community, they're brothers and
• 22:54
  sisters in arms, and they will come to the aid of a fellow off roader.
• 22:58
  A bunch of people mobilized immediately, started working strategies and plans to
• 23:02
  get the Bronco right side up and back up this steep ditch that it was in.
• 23:07
  The incredible thing, they got it right side up after a lot of, you know,
• 23:12
  maneuvering and MacGyvering or whatever.
• 23:14
  It still ran and drove on
• 23:17
  its own power.
• 23:18
  I got two questions.
• 23:19
  Maybe Donovan can answer these first question.
• 23:22
  How many Jeeps did it take to fix this problem?
• 23:25
  And the second question is which of Brian Cranston's nine goat modes allows you
• 23:30
  to roll the Bronco over down the hill?
• 23:33
  You know, I'm really impressed with that community.
• 23:35
  How about that?
• 23:36
  I mean, the guy said, Hey, I left it in this gully.
• 23:39
  Can somebody come help me?
• 23:40
  And they all came in swarms, but you know, it was a hold my beer moment, right?
• 23:44
  Let me see if I can get it out of there.
• 23:45
  I don't quite know why somebody took it off roading.
• 23:47
  I mean, you know, it's not really an off road car, right?
• 23:50
  I had an X, a BMW X5 for a while and tried to get into my neighborhood when it was
• 23:54
  snowing lightly and slid all the way down the hill and about landed in the lake.
• 23:58
  So, you know, I think you would know better unless you're in
• 24:01
  big knobbies or something, but that community to me is amazing.
• 24:04
  And you see that sometimes where people say, Hey, you know, listen,
• 24:06
  I'm stranded on the side of the road.
• 24:07
  Can you come get me?
• 24:08
  And for the most part, it goes, you know, unchecked.
• 24:11
  But, uh, I think that's definitely the coolest part of the story for sure.
• 24:14
  But, but, but goat modes, it has goat modes.
• 24:18
  And maybe that's a problem where people think it's more capable
• 24:21
  than maybe it actually is.
• 24:22
  Just like people get in their not fully autonomous self driving car.
• 24:29
  Don't believe what you see on
• 24:30
  TV.
• 24:31
  I've been saying that forever.
• 24:33
  I think it was a rental.
• 24:34
  I think some guys got together and said, Hey, let's take this
• 24:36
  thing out in the, in the woods.
• 24:38
  Got a little happy, but good for Ford, right?
• 24:39
  I mean, kind of wrapping up that segment.
• 24:41
  There is our showcase of news articles on Ford this month.
• 24:45
  I have a lot of things going on.
• 24:46
  I see a lot of things on the up.
• 24:48
  The Maki is doing well.
• 24:50
  The lightning is pre sold out.
• 24:52
  The Broncos are now kind of everywhere.
• 24:54
  They're kicking ass and taking names now.
• 24:56
  Granted, they're not building 1000 horsepower muscle cars like Chrysler,
• 25:00
  and I put them in a close second.
• 25:01
  second place and Chevy, I don't know.
• 25:04
  They're still out to lunch, whatever.
• 25:05
  But there is some news coming from Stellantis this month.
• 25:09
  So when I saw the headline, Alfa Romeo CEO, keen on bringing back GTV and Duetto
• 25:15
  sports cars, I obviously clicked it.
• 25:18
  This is Pavlovian.
• 25:19
  I have started to salivate as you were reading that.
• 25:22
  Cause I'm like
• 25:23
  GTV.
• 25:24
  Yes, please.
• 25:24
  Yeah, you had me at that.
• 25:26
  And to quote him, I'm very interested in the GTV.
• 25:30
  There is no statement or announcement at this stage, but I'm just
• 25:33
  giving you a personal feeling that I'm very interested in the GTV.
• 25:38
  I also love the duetto.
• 25:39
  Allow me to bring Alfa Romeo to a certain level of economic
• 25:42
  performance, and then we speak.
• 25:45
  Yes,
• 25:45
  please.
• 25:46
  This is so Italian.
• 25:47
  And then we speak.
• 25:49
  I love it because you know what, as passionate and as interested as the
• 25:52
  CEO of alpha is, I'm right behind him in line because when his interest
• 25:56
  peaks, mine will too, because I will be in line to put a deposit on this
• 26:00
  car because I need an alpha male in my life and it needs to be a GTV.
• 26:05
  And let me tell you something about this car.
• 26:06
  Cause as I was looking at this article, you know, it gets me because You know,
• 26:11
  the parent company of Chrysler and Alfa Romeo and Fiat Ferrari and all these
• 26:15
  other brands that they now own, there is this Italian passion amongst all the
• 26:20
  lines and it is not to be just contained within the Hellcat and the Challenger.
• 26:25
  Oh, no, because the GTV is going to boast 600 horsepower
• 26:31
  with eBoost all wheel drive.
• 26:34
  Including torque vectoring differentials, 50 to 50 perfect weight distribution.
• 26:39
  And you can carry four passengers, your dog and a load of groceries.
• 26:43
  Sell me this car, take my freaking money, make it so captain.
• 26:49
  And I have a feeling
• 26:50
  it's not 7.
• 26:51
  3 liters.
• 26:52
  No, it's probably a two liter turbo.
• 26:54
  That's the worst part.
• 26:56
  But how about that duetto though?
• 26:57
  Right?
• 26:57
  That's the car that everybody, I think, associates with alpha.
• 27:00
  When you think about non car people, that's the car they should bring and
• 27:04
  maybe should have brought first, and maybe they don't launch it with JLo.
• 27:07
  Like Fiat did the 500, but that is the money making cart.
• 27:11
  That's their Boxster.
• 27:11
  They've got to do that.
• 27:12
  And I don't understand why they haven't done it yet because of the Fiat one 24.
• 27:16
  Take that Miata platform and just reskin it again and put the duetto
• 27:21
  or what be, you know, the spider, which it became later, right?
• 27:24
  It had a very long run in that platform in that body style.
• 27:28
  So it would only make sense, but maybe they're not doing it because people
• 27:32
  just go, it's just a rebadged 124.
• 27:35
  But I'm still okay with it.
• 27:36
  I'm wondering what that'll do to the collector market too.
• 27:39
  You know, you bring those cars back.
• 27:40
  You bring back some of these GTVs.
• 27:41
  What's that going to do to the GTV6 that are still reasonable?
• 27:45
  I've priced some of them recently in the teens and the 20s, and those are
• 27:48
  beautiful
• 27:48
  cars.
• 27:49
  If you can get one that isn't a out because most of them you were looking
• 27:53
  at him o are completely pristine l top gear or the grand tou ago where
• 27:59
  he spent a fort some money into it.
• 28:02
  But w I mean, all penned by Ju that penned the launch of and a lot of
• 28:08
  other famous right there with it.
• 28:10
  And bring it back.
• 28:12
  That's the need.
• 28:14
  But there is a revi Amongst the Alfa Romeo community, you were talking
• 28:19
  about the older cars where we've seen on Instagram and even on garage ride
• 28:23
  and a lot of other places where people are posting retrofitting EV power
• 28:28
  trains into these older Alfa Romeos.
• 28:31
  And I tell you what, it really lends itself well.
• 28:34
  The body shapes are still gorgeous.
• 28:36
  And you're like, Hey, a reliable power plant that makes a ton
• 28:38
  of power in a really cool car.
• 28:40
  So I think it's going to benefit the community on both ends.
• 28:43
  If they do start to bring some of these brands back,
• 28:45
  that's actually a great idea.
• 28:47
  So I had actually looked at, um, you know, the, we've talked about
• 28:49
  it before that 73, nine 11 that I'm restoring, maybe doing an EV swap in it.
• 28:53
  But one of the things that scared me away from the GTV six is that very
• 28:56
  thing, that reliability, but an EV, and that might not be a bad idea.
• 29:00
  You might've turned me onto something there.
• 29:01
  There you go.
• 29:02
  So hot off the presses, check this link because Alfa Romeo
• 29:07
  plans, electrified brand revival, starting with electric GTV retro.
• 29:13
  Yes, please.
• 29:13
  Yes, please.
• 29:14
  You can have my money.
• 29:16
  Robbed me blind on this one.
• 29:18
  I'm slobbering right now.
• 29:19
  This thing is gorgeous.
• 29:21
  Rob Mable.
• 29:22
  I don't care if it only gets 75 MPGE.
• 29:25
  Like, that's
• 29:26
  an old school.
• 29:27
  That's an original.
• 29:28
  That's a Giulietta GTV.
• 29:30
  That's the precursor to even the GTV6s that we got here in the U.
• 29:34
  S.
• 29:34
  in the 80s.
• 29:34
  This is just iconic Alfa Romeo right here.
• 29:37
  Gorgeous car.
• 29:38
  Gorgeous.
• 29:39
  I mean, I tell you what guys, I am still holding out hope for
• 29:43
  the GTA, the hatchback, the rear wheel drive that they promised us.
• 29:46
  You know, that they've been racing in TCR and I have yet to see it.
• 29:50
  So I, I don't wanna get super excited even about the GTV.
• 29:53
  I mean, I love the Julia.
• 29:55
  Everything that Alpha's brought so far has been awesome.
• 29:57
  The Stelvio is a gorgeous car.
• 29:59
  All of that, it's just.
• 30:00
  Just don't tease me.
• 30:01
  Just don't, just don't tease me.
• 30:02
  Just, you know, don't break my heart.
• 30:04
  All right.
• 30:04
  So we got to switch to the ever functional and let's call them clinical in some ways.
• 30:12
  Germans.
• 30:12
  We got to talk about the Volkswagen Audi group for a little bit.
• 30:15
  We reported.
• 30:17
  In previous episodes that the Audi GT has returned and it's coming
• 30:22
  in the form of an e tron package.
• 30:24
  Gorgeous car.
• 30:25
  It has that low slung roof, you know, everything that, you know, the A5 has
• 30:29
  become now as well, where it's actually a four door, but it looks like a
• 30:32
  coupe, all that super high price tag.
• 30:35
  Awesome specs.
• 30:36
  There's some, there's an article that we came across.
• 30:38
  from electric.
• 30:39
  co where they've gotten a chance to finally drive one of these.
• 30:42
  So they give their whole review on that.
• 30:44
  I highly recommend checking it out.
• 30:46
  I don't know when exactly we're going to get them here.
• 30:48
  Stateside, probably 22 from what I'm seeing, but there's more interesting
• 30:53
  news going on at VAG right now.
• 30:55
  And it surrounds Lamborghini.
• 30:58
  Many of you may or may not.
• 30:59
  Have heard.
• 31:00
  And I saw this come across my desk first while I was surfing on garage
• 31:03
  riot, that Volkswagen was offered 9.
• 31:06
  2 billion.
• 31:08
  That's what the B to sell Lamborghini Volkswagen did the wizard of Oz and
• 31:13
  said, not no way, not know how there isn't enough money yet for them to sell
• 31:18
  off their aging R8 platform to another conglomerate to pick up and run with.
• 31:23
  And the reason is.
• 31:25
  that Volkswagen has plans for Lamborghini, and they've announced that they're going
• 31:30
  all electric with the Lambo's by 2025.
• 31:33
  This is coming in three stages.
• 31:36
  Lamborghini's future in the next couple of years is actually going to
• 31:39
  follow suit with everything that's going on, you know, with the E E tron
• 31:42
  and Porsche, they're going to go in that direction where it's going to be
• 31:45
  a combination of petrol and hybrid.
• 31:48
  So they're going to go that way, but you're still going to be able to
• 31:50
  get your V12 and V10 Lamborghinis, you know, all that craziness.
• 31:53
  And then you're going to have like the curves, you know, the
• 31:55
  boost button and go, go for it.
• 31:57
  They say that the cyan.
• 31:59
  Is going to be the first Lamborghini to have hybridization, and that's gonna come
• 32:04
  out in 20 23, 20 24, which is actually kind of cool just in time for lemons.
• 32:10
  So maybe we'll see something going on there as well.
• 32:12
  We're gonna talk more about SSA and WEC later in the episode, but they're gonna
• 32:16
  go full electric in stage three in 2025 through 2029, where all models will cease
• 32:23
  to have petrol engines at that point.
• 32:25
  So it sounds to me like.
• 32:27
  Volkswagen's got a six to eight year plan for Lambo, and they're not really
• 32:32
  ready to give up on it quite yet.
• 32:34
  First of all, back to the offer.
• 32:35
  It feels like some drunk billionaires got together and said, Hey, I
• 32:38
  think I want to buy Lamborghini.
• 32:39
  I'm gonna offer some money.
• 32:40
  I would totally do the same thing.
• 32:42
  Yeah, you know, it's, it's kind of disappointing.
• 32:44
  I mean, that's the way everything's going.
• 32:45
  But you know, you think about Uh, particularly the
• 32:48
  Italian supercars and things.
• 32:49
  You want to hear that you want to hear that engine rumble.
• 32:52
  And I mean, I know that Porsche said recently that the nine 11 would be the
• 32:56
  last car for them to convert to electric, but we know it's going to happen.
• 33:00
  I guess we're going to be old school in 10 years or 15 years and want that rumble.
• 33:04
  But again, I go back to the collector market.
• 33:07
  To me, this is good news for all current gas powered Lambos, right?
• 33:10
  Buy them now while you can.
• 33:12
  Guy rotors, whatever you can get.
• 33:13
  Cause I just think, you know, the difference is going to be important.
• 33:16
  Talked about early in the.
• 33:17
  Show at what point is fast, not the metric to measure anymore.
• 33:22
  I mean, we've already got the Tesla roadster that that'll do zero to 60
• 33:25
  and sub one second with the, with the rocket boosters hanging out the back.
• 33:28
  Right.
• 33:29
  They've already exceeded the limits of traction and they're
• 33:31
  overcoming that by these boosters.
• 33:32
  So at some point, you know, you've got a C8 that e tron Audi
• 33:36
  is zero to 60 in three seconds.
• 33:37
  Everything is zero to 16, three seconds.
• 33:39
  So why are you buying a Lamborghini at that point?
• 33:42
  Is it the styling?
• 33:43
  It's not the sound anymore, not the performance anymore.
• 33:45
  So I know they're kind of in a, there's not really much we can do about it,
• 33:49
  but I feel like they're on borrowed time as far as what that means.
• 33:53
  And I think you're right.
• 33:54
  Even about the styling.
• 33:55
  I'm not a huge fan of these Lambo concepts I'm seeing for the next six years.
• 33:59
  I think they're all going the way of the Veneno and the Senna, and they're just.
• 34:05
  Too perfect because they're designed in CAD to be perfect.
• 34:09
  But they've lost the flair of like a Kuntosh or Diablo or a Tesserosa.
• 34:14
  It's not just the name that gets you excited.
• 34:17
  Because when I say those names, petroheads get excited.
• 34:19
  Kuntosh, you're
• 34:20
  like,
• 34:20
  Oh, you know, you immediately think David Hasselhoff.
• 34:22
  But what, what ends up happening though, is they were trendsetters.
• 34:26
  They were breaking the mold.
• 34:27
  They were bucking the system and saying, this is what we think is awesome.
• 34:31
  Either you love it or you hate it.
• 34:32
  The Kutosh is one of those cars, but most people do love it, but they're outlandish.
• 34:37
  They're crazy.
• 34:37
  They're not functional.
• 34:38
  They're complete form over function.
• 34:41
  Unlike the Germans who are traditionally very clinical, you know, very,
• 34:44
  you know, pristine about things.
• 34:46
  Everything's very, very functional.
• 34:47
  And then style kind of comes later.
• 34:49
  I don't know the new Lambos.
• 34:51
  It's a hard pill to swallow.
• 34:52
  And I'm, and you're right.
• 34:53
  I don't want to see Lamborghinis go the way of the Condor and become completely
• 34:57
  extinct, but it's just, maybe there's a time and a place for everything.
• 35:02
  You know, there's a reason Packards aren't still around.
• 35:04
  Let's, let's just say that.
• 35:05
  Well, and it was cool, right?
• 35:06
  You know, you, you think about back in the eighties or the sixties or
• 35:10
  whenever the reason you bought those cars was for their performance.
• 35:13
  You bought a Lamborghini because it was faster than anything else.
• 35:15
  And you guys remember when the 911 turbo hit.
• 35:18
  You know, sub three and a half seconds.
• 35:19
  It was, Oh my God, we can't get any faster than that.
• 35:21
  And now the Ford lightning will probably do zero to 63.
• 35:24
  I know the new Tesla truck will, so you're not buying Lamborghini for that anymore.
• 35:28
  And who knows?
• 35:29
  It's going to be one of those shifts where we're not going to see it coming,
• 35:32
  but maybe styling is, you know, the way the future, maybe it's coach building
• 35:36
  again, because you don't really have to, and the engineering people listening to
• 35:39
  this will argue with me, but zero to 60, you don't have to be super aerodynamic.
• 35:43
  I mean, not anymore because you've got the power.
• 35:45
  Chrysler
• 35:45
  says all every day.
• 35:46
  Okay.
• 35:47
  All I need is a thousand horsepower.
• 35:48
  So we'll have bricks that'll do zero to 60 in three point
• 35:52
  seconds and they'll be gorgeous.
• 35:53
  So, you know, the ID Ford finally has made its debut over the
• 35:57
  last couple of weeks or months.
• 35:58
  And I have seen a couple of them, not as many as Broncos that I've seen, but
• 36:05
  one or two, I have seen out on the road.
• 36:07
  They also aren't horrible to look at.
• 36:09
  I like the way she put that.
• 36:10
  My
• 36:11
  expectations for all these, these days are the bar is low.
• 36:17
  And I'm not a fan of trucks and SUVs and all these compact crossovers, which to me
• 36:22
  are just hatchbacks on stilts essentially.
• 36:25
  And so why not just have a hatchback, uh, that's lower to the ground, but whatever.
• 36:28
  So, you know, the ID four came out first and kind of as their dedicated ev right.
• 36:34
  They also, you know, at the time it was kind of like a back and forth,
• 36:37
  I think between the ID four or the ID three, which one's it gonna be?
• 36:41
  And the ID three is the hatchback.
• 36:43
  If you will, it is a golf, essentially a smaller, yeah.
• 36:48
  And you know, there was a little bit of hemming and hawing.
• 36:50
  Do we, do we bring the ID three, but give it more, you know, more GTI in this, but
• 36:54
  they ended up going with the ID four.
• 36:56
  And with regards to GTI in this, there are plans for that for both the ID
• 37:01
  four and the ID three and the ID four.
• 37:03
  Again, we'll get the package first and it's.
• 37:06
  going to carry over I think to all the electric brands and it'll no
• 37:10
  longer be GTI, but it will be GTX.
• 37:13
  So there will be a GTX version of the ID.
• 37:16
  4 and there will be a GTX version of the ID.
• 37:20
  3 coming out, which makes it sportier and drift mode and all this stuff.
• 37:25
  Can we just continue to have nice things?
• 37:28
  Why do they have to change everything?
• 37:29
  Exactly.
• 37:30
  Why does every new car need a drift mode?
• 37:32
  How many people do you know that can drift?
• 37:34
  I don't know any.
• 37:35
  I'm sure there are people, but the BMWs and the Volkswagens and everything else
• 37:38
  with this drift mode is driving me crazy.
• 37:40
  Well, it's not really practical if you're someone whose hobby
• 37:43
  is to go do drift competitions, you're going to have an actual car
• 37:48
  that has been designed and set up
• 37:50
  and has the proper steering articulation to drift.
• 37:53
  And it's probably a Nissan
• 37:54
  Silvia
• 37:55
  when you're going to the grocery store, three blocks away, you
• 37:58
  know, you don't need drift mode,
• 38:00
  except if you're Andrew bank.
• 38:01
  And if you're listening, yes.
• 38:04
  That would make grocery shopping a lot more fun, though.
• 38:06
  But going back to this ID3, the thing that kills me, like, and, you know,
• 38:10
  Hazmat will tell us all the time, badge engineering has been a thing for 40
• 38:15
  years now, you know, let's slap a badge on it, it suddenly makes it special.
• 38:19
  The GTX thing, it kind of eats me a little bit because The old moniker, at least in
• 38:24
  the Volkswagen world was the GLX, right?
• 38:26
  They've always had that, you know, the Passat GLXs and the,
• 38:29
  the Jetta GLX and stuff like that.
• 38:31
  We could have easily brought that back.
• 38:32
  The GT scram touring.
• 38:35
  I get it just like us GTM.
• 38:37
  Right.
• 38:37
  But I don't know, GTE, I guess that's an Opel thing.
• 38:40
  That would make sense.
• 38:41
  Right.
• 38:42
  And it would make more sense than GTX has always been reserved for four
• 38:45
  wheel drive in a lot of cases, like the X drive and the BMWs and GTX, my
• 38:50
  mind, when you said that immediately went to the Mazda three, two, three
• 38:54
  from the eighties, the GTX, right?
• 38:56
  Because it was the all wheel drive Mazda three, two, three.
• 38:58
  So for me, I guess, because I grew up in that era, it's, it's just word
• 39:02
  association, but, uh, I don't know.
• 39:04
  It just becomes alphabet soup.
• 39:06
  ID3GTX.
• 39:07
  Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 39:08
  It's whatever.
• 39:08
  I looked at it.
• 39:09
  I, um, to your point, Tanya, it's the evolution.
• 39:11
  I think it's where the Polo and the GTI are going to intersect.
• 39:15
  And that's what we're going to be left with after they decide that we're
• 39:17
  done with the FARP cans and the two liter turbo and everything else that
• 39:21
  comes with the GTI and the Golf R.
• 39:22
  So in another round of infinite wisdom, we'll see how this plays out.
• 39:26
  They're doing some sort of tests.
• 39:29
  in Greece trying to, I guess, foster green mobility and all this stuff.
• 39:34
  They're sending all these what look like IV4s to Greece.
• 39:37
  To do what?
• 39:38
  I don't know.
• 39:39
  This one is, is livery as if it's a police car, which is pretty cool.
• 39:42
  It does look neat.
• 39:43
  I will give you that.
• 39:44
  I have an ID for a police car, but I mean, you're going to put your eggs in my back.
• 39:48
  I actually like this idea a lot.
• 39:50
  And the reason I say this is to me, you know, you imagine that you're
• 39:53
  on a Greek island somewhere, you've got to get fuel to the island.
• 39:57
  You know, the more self supported you could be the better.
• 40:00
  And I think, you know, if islands are able to convert to solar power and some other
• 40:04
  things, I don't think this is a bad idea.
• 40:06
  And the last time I was on a Greek island, I was on an ATV and a
• 40:10
  lot of people were too, so, you know, transportation isn't really.
• 40:14
  As much of a thing there.
• 40:15
  So I don't know.
• 40:16
  I don't mind this one too much.
• 40:17
  I think it's kind of
• 40:18
  a cool idea.
• 40:18
  I got two words for you.
• 40:19
  Jurassic park.
• 40:21
  They use quote unquote, self driving autonomous, electric Ford Explorers.
• 40:26
  Remember how that turned out?
• 40:27
  This is, this is the sequel.
• 40:29
  All right.
• 40:29
  So you're saying now this Greek island is going to attract dinosaurs and
• 40:33
  it's going to swallow up everything.
• 40:34
  I see.
• 40:35
  I see.
• 40:35
  Okay.
• 40:37
  Not to be outdone.
• 40:39
  We have a theme to continue here.
• 40:41
  It's twofold.
• 40:42
  There's large horsepower number, a small displacement.
• 40:47
  Or is it the last of the dinosaurs?
• 40:50
  And take my money now, please.
• 40:52
  Because on principle, you can take my money on this.
• 40:56
  Yes, I've been perfectly fine with another five cylinder Audi in my life.
• 41:00
  What?
• 41:01
  Yes.
• 41:02
  I was shocked because the five cylinder had gone the way of the dinosaurs already
• 41:07
  a number of years ago, unfortunately, or fortunately, some people might
• 41:10
  say, but the five cylinder motor, good motor from Audi, got one that's
• 41:15
  36 years strong, and it sounds nice.
• 41:20
  Like a pterodactyl with its tail on fire.
• 41:23
  That's what it sounds
• 41:24
  like.
• 41:24
  I love the rasp of a five cylinder.
• 41:26
  So the 2022 Audi RS three is going to be a turbo five cylinder, making
• 41:33
  401 horsepowers from 2.5 liters.
• 41:37
  That's good numbers.
• 41:38
  That's better than that Ford 7.
• 41:39
  3 liter that we talked about earlier.
• 41:42
  Think about that.
• 41:43
  Can it tow?
• 41:44
  No, it can't tow.
• 41:45
  Next.
• 41:46
  But I have to say the five cylinder did make a resurgence with the TTRS
• 41:51
  and with the Mark V Volkswagen's right back in the late 2000s.
• 41:56
  And it's been around off and on.
• 41:57
  The previous RS3 had a five cylinder turbo borrowed from the TTRS, but
• 42:01
  it hasn't been their mainstay.
• 42:03
  Motor used to be the thing you bought an Audi.
• 42:05
  You got a five cylinder I'm with you.
• 42:07
  It is kind of the last of the dodo birds, but on the same token, it's one
• 42:11
  of those weird motors that I've always compared to like a diesel, it makes
• 42:16
  more torque than it makes horsepower.
• 42:17
  It's got the acceleration of a four with the kind of power output of a six.
• 42:21
  It doesn't, it's got an identity crisis.
• 42:23
  It doesn't know what it wants to be, but at the same time,
• 42:25
  it's, it's freaking awesome.
• 42:27
  And if you turn the boost up to 11.
• 42:29
  Not pounds, but like spinal tap up to 11, they're wicked.
• 42:34
  I mean, incredible amounts of horsepower.
• 42:35
  And if you look at the legacy of the five cylinder, especially the rally cars, and I
• 42:39
  don't want to nerd out because, you know, I'm a rally fan, but a single turbo 2.
• 42:44
  1 liter in the S1 was making 750 horsepower back in the eighties.
• 42:50
  There is so much potential and power in that motor.
• 42:53
  It's incredible.
• 42:54
  It puts a lot of other engines to shame.
• 42:56
  It's nice to me that somebody doubt he's paying attention, right?
• 42:59
  You know, that, that five cylinder is classic and, you know, it makes you
• 43:02
  look at other companies, you know, we talked about earlier, you know,
• 43:05
  Volkswagen kind of going off mark a little bit and, you know, of course, BMW
• 43:08
  with their crazy nomenclature, right?
• 43:10
  Is it a four door three series?
• 43:12
  Is it a two doors, you know, all that kind of thing.
• 43:14
  And this to me is somebody, while most people won't know or
• 43:17
  care that it's a five cylinder.
• 43:19
  A lot of people will.
• 43:20
  And I think that's really says something about protecting that
• 43:23
  heritage and really keeping that alive.
• 43:24
  I think it's really cool, but I will say it's also interesting.
• 43:27
  This car is going to make 400 horsepower in is roughly 3.
• 43:31
  4 seconds, zero to 60.
• 43:32
  That's pretty stout, especially when you compare it with a lot of the EVs
• 43:34
  that we were talking about earlier, you know, you look at the current
• 43:36
  Corvette and you know, I haven't raced them, but I would assume, you know,
• 43:40
  a Corvette and this car next to each other, you know, four tenths of a second
• 43:43
  off is probably not that big a deal.
• 43:45
  And it's pretty cool that they're still making that kind of speed in it.
• 43:47
  So as we transition away from automotive news, we want to touch on Brad's favorite
• 43:51
  new section, which is lost and found.
• 43:53
  And, you know, it's really awesome and actually quite special that we have
• 43:57
  Donovan on this particular episode to talk about lost and found because some of
• 44:01
  his expertise is in the car show world, in the auction world, in the, you know,
• 44:06
  exotic car and high ends types of stuff.
• 44:08
  So he's got a lot of background in this.
• 44:09
  So we selected some articles to discuss with him back and forth.
• 44:12
  And the first one that came up, which I actually happened to snag off of
• 44:15
  garage ride, and I don't remember.
• 44:16
  Who posted this, but it has to do with Nicholas Cage's car collection
• 44:19
  and all jokes aside about his current career and method acting and all
• 44:23
  the divorces he has to pay for.
• 44:25
  He's actually got a pretty cool collection of cars.
• 44:29
  Now it's not going to rival Tim Allen or Jay Leno, but I want to rattle off
• 44:33
  some of the cars in his collection and Donovan, maybe get your opinion about
• 44:37
  some of the stuff he's got in his stable.
• 44:39
  He's got a Diablo VT.
• 44:40
  He's got a Miura SPJ.
• 44:42
  He's got a Lamborghini 350 GT starting to see a theme here.
• 44:46
  He's got an Enzo, a 599 GTB, along with a bunch of other cars.
• 44:52
  I think it's incredible.
• 44:53
  I mean, you know, you look at he's got a Jag D type, he's got Bugatti type 57 C.
• 44:59
  To me, it's Primo.
• 45:00
  He doesn't have the random, although this Eleanor and I get it right.
• 45:04
  Of all the people that should have an Eleanor Mustang, it should be him.
• 45:06
  But I, I.
• 45:06
  Can't stay in those cars just because of the cheesiness of it.
• 45:09
  But yeah, I mean, you know, if, if you were to have a Lambo collection,
• 45:13
  I mean, the Mura and the three 50 GT and the Diablos are the ones to have.
• 45:16
  So he seems to have the ones, you know, in each of the genres, he's got an Enzo.
• 45:20
  I mean, he's got a California spider.
• 45:22
  So I actually, I've always liked Nicholas Cage, but, uh, I have a
• 45:26
  little bit more respect for him after seeing this list for sure.
• 45:29
  Yeah.
• 45:29
  And like we talked about on the episode with Paula Wymoski, there's a lot of folks
• 45:33
  in Hollywood that are petrol heads, and we can now add Nicolas Cage to the list right
• 45:38
  up there with Paul Walker and Jay Leno and a lot of other folks in Hollywood that
• 45:43
  have kind of hidden collections of cars.
• 45:45
  So it was really cool to see this when it came across my desk.
• 45:48
  I think it's incredible also because I thought it was bankrupt.
• 45:51
  So the fact that he even has these cars.
• 45:53
  Pretty impressive.
• 45:54
  Well, there's that too.
• 45:55
  We got to pay for those divorces somehow.
• 45:57
  That's all I'm saying.
• 45:58
  So what else do we have on Lost and Found this month, Donovan?
• 46:00
  So do I have to do my best Brad voice to, to give you this one?
• 46:04
  So a very, very special Corvette was found, you know, one of the legendary
• 46:08
  race cars, one of the originals.
• 46:09
  Strangely enough, it was found on an ad listed as a Zagato of some sort.
• 46:15
  So the, the owner finds this car that had raced at Lamar and
• 46:19
  Sebring and had, uh, even done top is a potential driver at Lamar.
• 46:23
  And, uh, after the car was bought, they checked the VIN number and
• 46:27
  came to find out it was one of three very special race cars.
• 46:29
  So, you know, somebody won the lottery that day for sure.
• 46:32
  And pretty interesting.
• 46:33
  And as far as I know, the other two cars are around in a museum somewhere.
• 46:38
  And I think that's what this one's destined for after restoration.
• 46:41
  So they ran a car fax.
• 46:42
  I mean, I gotta start checking.
• 46:43
  I gotta start checking more cars because, you know, I'd see something
• 46:46
  like that, especially when you see the pictures of it, it's old, it's beat
• 46:48
  up, it's got the patina and everything.
• 46:50
  And you're just like, I don't even want to bother with that, you know,
• 46:52
  but some gracious soul out there was like, man, I'm going to hop on
• 46:55
  this Corvette because it is a C1.
• 46:57
  So there's that attraction.
• 46:58
  If you're into those old fifties Corvettes and whatnot, but man, to stumble upon,
• 47:01
  you know, that extra little bonus Easter egg there of being a historic car.
• 47:05
  I But what did it sell for?
• 47:07
  758, 000 at Amelia Island, actually a few weeks ago.
• 47:12
  And everybody probably laughed when they pulled that thing.
• 47:14
  Go look at that rat rod that they just brought into the show.
• 47:16
  Right.
• 47:16
  It's in terrible condition.
• 47:18
  Yeah.
• 47:18
  And you know, to me, it's, you know, you look at people talk about, well,
• 47:21
  don't restore it, keep it original.
• 47:22
  But, uh, you know, the, the guy that acquired the car after it did
• 47:25
  its racing, you know, kind of did a number on it and put his own.
• 47:29
  Take on it.
• 47:29
  We'll say, so it needs to call those mods.
• 47:32
  We call it, well, you know, the fact that it, uh, it was listed as a
• 47:35
  Pontiac Zagato when it was listed in the classified, but you know, I'm more
• 47:39
  curious about the guy that bought it.
• 47:40
  What would you think if somebody listed a Pontiac Zagato, that
• 47:43
  would be a no for me, but yeah,
• 47:46
  right.
• 47:46
  I would have mistaken it for an Aztec and just kept on
• 47:49
  scrolling, but you know, whatever.
• 47:51
  So speaking of piles of junk,
• 47:53
  yeah, so recently, uh, Jaguar, uh, XK one 50 sold in a tree
• 47:59
  mangled condition for 127, 000.
• 48:03
  I didn't quite understand this when I read a little bit more about it.
• 48:06
  The article was a little misleading.
• 48:07
  It's actually a XK one 50 S and there were only a handful of
• 48:11
  those, I think 50 of them made.
• 48:13
  So even with the front end crushed in, it was still, I guess, a a steal.
• 48:18
  But it's, it's going to take a lot of work.
• 48:20
  That's for sure.
• 48:20
  These cars in, in regular condition, I think are upwards of,
• 48:23
  you know, in the seven figures.
• 48:25
  So maybe somebody got a deal.
• 48:27
  I don't know, but you know, it'd be interesting to the next owner to see
• 48:30
  what the history of this car was.
• 48:31
  That would, would be hard to explain.
• 48:33
  It had some mechanical damage and some cosmetic work.
• 48:36
  It is mangled for sure.
• 48:38
  So since you're in this arena and you're looking at cars all the
• 48:41
  time and buying and keep an eye on, you know, bring a trailer.
• 48:43
  And I know we bat this out.
• 48:44
  Back and forth on the regular about how crazy bring a trailers become.
• 48:48
  And I'm sure you have your opinions about that, but if you are in the market and
• 48:52
  you're looking for a collector card, like what's on your top five list right now?
• 48:56
  Like what are you eyeballing?
• 48:57
  What do you think is a good deal right now?
• 48:59
  If people were interested in picking something up.
• 49:00
  I'm always in the market.
• 49:01
  I actually trying to figure out what my next purchase is going to be to
• 49:04
  the point that I had to whiteboard it out and reorg some things.
• 49:07
  So, you know, for me, there's different levels.
• 49:10
  There's the collectability of it, there's the fun factor, and
• 49:13
  then there's the kind of combo.
• 49:14
  So, you know, to me, I think there's varying degrees.
• 49:17
  I've moved them into price points really.
• 49:20
  And, uh, you know, we talked about this on GarageRite sometimes, you
• 49:22
  know, I think in the 50, 000 market, probably a Skyline R32 GTR or R33.
• 49:29
  Now those are 50 to 75, depending.
• 49:32
  I think that's good value.
• 49:33
  Closer to a hundred.
• 49:34
  The launch of Delta Evo twos are great, and you know, I've watched
• 49:37
  those for about a year now.
• 49:38
  Last year you could find some in the high forties, fifties, now they're a hundred.
• 49:42
  Depending on the special editions, they may go to a buck and a quarter.
• 49:45
  Oddly enough, and this would be no surprise to you, I've been
• 49:47
  watching the 2002 Turbos, the BMWs in the past two years.
• 49:51
  I've seen 'em sell from one 15 to 1 72, I think was the most recent.
• 49:56
  They're all over the place and, and that might be where I pull the trigger.
• 49:59
  The problem with them is they're hard to find.
• 50:01
  There's one for sale in Belgium right now and actually looked into financing
• 50:05
  and you can't, uh, finance cross country.
• 50:07
  Unfortunately, I have a lead on one coming in from Japan, which is pretty crazy.
• 50:11
  I think that's where it's at.
• 50:12
  And then, uh, you know, as you move up into the, the two hundreds, the
• 50:15
  Ferrari five, 12 BB, I think is amazing.
• 50:18
  The F 12 was one of my favorites, but I think they're on their way
• 50:21
  down, hopefully making their way up.
• 50:22
  But, uh, they're all over the place.
• 50:24
  And, and, you know, I'm a fan of the Gallardo still not collectible
• 50:27
  by any means, but a lot of fun.
• 50:29
  And, you know, if you find the right one, you can get them for, for
• 50:31
  around a hundred.
• 50:33
  So are you considering them as an investment, you know, longer term, or you,
• 50:37
  is it more of like the collector and the boy racer, I want to have that car, like.
• 50:41
  What's the recommendation when you're looking at these types of gray market
• 50:45
  cars and we're used to like, Oh, I can just go get a nine 11 turbo and spend
• 50:48
  a hundred thousand dollars, right.
• 50:49
  Or, or, or Supra or something like that.
• 50:51
  What's the appeal.
• 50:52
  Why go into that market?
• 50:54
  Exactly.
• 50:54
  It's almost this FOMO of, I want to buy it before it goes up.
• 50:58
  And you can see a lot of them, you know, the mark one GTI.
• 51:00
  Those cars were five grand for years.
• 51:04
  There's one, I don't know if it's still for sale.
• 51:05
  I saw it a couple of weeks ago.
• 51:06
  It has, uh, I think 70, 000 miles and they want 35, 000 for it.
• 51:10
  It's immaculate.
• 51:11
  It's gorgeous.
• 51:12
  That sounds unreasonable now, but in a year, that's probably going to be a deal.
• 51:16
  You know, you look at the E30 M3 and it took me years to finally buy one.
• 51:20
  And when I did.
• 51:20
  I bought the first one the year before they went crazy.
• 51:24
  And then after they went crazy, I'd sold that one and bought another one.
• 51:27
  So really I think it's watching the market.
• 51:28
  And to me, it's buying a car that I know is going to make money that GTI.
• 51:32
  If you can find one in the teams, you know, you know, maybe
• 51:35
  you'll gain five grand on it.
• 51:37
  You know, you buy a GTR for 65 right now, your margin will be a
• 51:40
  little better, but that, and I just want to own every car in the world.
• 51:44
  If I had a bigger garage, I sure would.
• 51:46
  And I I'm down a few cars.
• 51:47
  Now I sold one, uh, one of my cars last week, but it's really just a space issue.
• 51:51
  But, you know, I think it's the real life version of hot wheels, right?
• 51:54
  We all had all the hot wheels that we thought really cool.
• 51:56
  And if we could have each of those, we would too.
• 51:58
  So that's really kind of what it is for me.
• 51:59
  There's a bunch of cars for auction right now in Kansas that you could
• 52:02
  scoop up pretty quick, but I'm not sure that you'd be too interested in.
• 52:05
  Did you hear about this?
• 52:06
  I did the trans ams, right?
• 52:07
  That's a barn full of basically smoking the banded trans ams, you
• 52:11
  know, seventies era trans ams.
• 52:13
  Now, are they really that desirable compared to the stuff you, you
• 52:16
  know, you're looking at maybe in a different genre or market?
• 52:18
  Man, that's a good question.
• 52:19
  I've never been really into that.
• 52:21
  You know, I think trans ams are really cool.
• 52:23
  I actually liked the early fireworks, you know, the, the first, first ones
• 52:25
  I think are super cool, but, you know, it was amazing to me that.
• 52:28
  The high value version out of that group is the 74 super duty, the 455 V8.
• 52:34
  And a terrible name for that car.
• 52:36
  It sounds like a truck, right?
• 52:37
  Super duty.
• 52:38
  Those are super cool.
• 52:39
  I mean, I think when you look at it, you got to say, okay, well, if there
• 52:41
  was one to have, that's probably it.
• 52:43
  But, you know, I worry about the, you know, the market on muscle cars,
• 52:46
  you know, the, the bubble is burst.
• 52:48
  So it's kind of a drop.
• 52:49
  Yeah, exactly.
• 52:50
  Proceed with caution.
• 52:51
  It's all the euros in the Japanese cars that we never got, which are being
• 52:55
  brought in now that they're 20 plus years old through the gray market.
• 52:57
  You're seeing 959s and F40s on U.
• 53:00
  S.
• 53:00
  roads, which were never D.
• 53:01
  O.
• 53:02
  T.
• 53:02
  approved because they're so old now.
• 53:04
  And so the prices of them have gone through the roof.
• 53:06
  And we talked about this before.
• 53:07
  Before, but to circle back on those trans amps, I think the only person
• 53:11
  that would get super excited about that and also happens to be in Kansas.
• 53:14
  And if you don't watch a show on YouTube is who V of who V's garage.
• 53:18
  I mean, he's going to be all over these things.
• 53:20
  I'm sure he'll do a lemons race with a couple of them, you know, tearing
• 53:23
  them apart, giving away to his friends.
• 53:25
  But if you've watched his show, it's, it's pretty hilarious.
• 53:28
  He's always buying and selling cars, kind of like you as well.
• 53:30
  He's got a, you know, a huge collection of stuff.
• 53:32
  I just, one last thing before we move on.
• 53:34
  What do you think about bring a trailer?
• 53:37
  You know, for some of us, it was like, like racing junk where you went there
• 53:40
  and you kind of salivated and went, man, I could get a good deal on this car.
• 53:43
  It's kind of evolved over the last couple of years.
• 53:45
  Do you think it's out of control or is it still a good high water, you know,
• 53:49
  litmus test for these collectible cars?
• 53:52
  Yeah, I think it's changed.
• 53:53
  You know, I've been on bring a trailer for years and actually bought
• 53:55
  a 67 dots and 1600 off it years ago from California and got a deal.
• 53:59
  And I think in the early days, you know, the guy that started it, he would go
• 54:02
  to all these random websites and then find all the cool cars and post them
• 54:06
  on bring a trailer, you know, to let people know, Hey, this one's for sale.
• 54:09
  This is really cool.
• 54:10
  And then it evolved as it got more popular.
• 54:12
  And then when they sold it.
• 54:13
  I think they sold it to road and track.
• 54:14
  Didn't they last year?
• 54:16
  You know, now it's flipped.
• 54:17
  It's no longer the place to get a deal.
• 54:19
  It's the place to go get top dollar for your car.
• 54:21
  So I think it serves its purpose that way.
• 54:24
  They do have a four week lead time.
• 54:25
  I found out recently.
• 54:26
  So if you want to sell something, it's going to take you a while,
• 54:27
  but you know, good for them.
• 54:29
  They just passed their 5, 000th auction or something crazy like that.
• 54:33
  So they're, they're really rocking there.
• 54:35
  I remember when it
• 54:35
  was just classifieds, bring a trailer, let's transition a little bit.
• 54:39
  I think we have a couple oddballs here as we wrap.
• 54:42
  up this entire segment on automotive and industry news.
• 54:45
  And there's a car I want to get your opinion on.
• 54:47
  And there's a term that invokes a reaction.
• 54:50
  And the term is boat tail.
• 54:52
  For those of us that are in the classic car community, boat tail was
• 54:56
  usually associated with a Auburn's but Rolls Royce has recently debuted
• 55:02
  their boat tail for 2022 23 timeframe.
• 55:06
  What do you think about that car?
• 55:08
  I think it's pretty cool.
• 55:08
  You know, we talked earlier about what are, what are
• 55:10
  manufacturers going to do anymore?
• 55:11
  They have to kind of zigzag a little bit.
• 55:13
  I think this is, this is one of those, right?
• 55:15
  And, you know, they, they claim they're building three of them.
• 55:17
  The first one they built here, I think it's a little bit of a stretch to call
• 55:21
  it a boat tail, you know, particularly when you think about the way the Auburn
• 55:24
  boat tail kind of came to a point in the end, this looks more like they
• 55:27
  put some teak wood on the back and called it a day, but I think it's cool.
• 55:31
  And I think they've got to do something different.
• 55:33
  You know, if you ask somebody today, the difference on all the
• 55:36
  Rolls Royce models or all the BMW models, they all look the same.
• 55:39
  Hopefully we're starting to see that kind of coach builder aspect of it.
• 55:43
  Come back and certainly for the well heeled, right.
• 55:46
  You can go to rolls and if you had enough money, you could have them
• 55:48
  build you whatever you wanted to.
• 55:49
  But I think it's exciting.
• 55:50
  It's different.
• 55:51
  And it's, it's really cool to see some new things that we're not seeing before.
• 55:54
  And maybe it'll inspire the industry and we'll start getting back
• 55:56
  to some of those older designs.
• 55:58
  Absolutely.
• 55:58
  Because
• 55:59
  like you said, we don't really need.
• 56:01
  A design that cheats the wind on everything.
• 56:03
  So we could go back to big swooping fenders and round headlights and more
• 56:06
  like a Packard or early Cadillac design, or even the old Rolls Royces and Bentleys
• 56:10
  from the old days, because why not?
• 56:12
  Right.
• 56:13
  Zero to 63 seconds in those things.
• 56:15
  And they probably weigh less than that number that we talked about earlier.
• 56:18
  Now, I will say when I saw the Rolls Royce, the color gets you right away.
• 56:22
  That blue is super cool.
• 56:24
  I'm with you in it, not being a boat tail.
• 56:26
  I kind of wanted to call it the picnic basket and maybe rename it the Yogi.
• 56:30
  The Rolls Royce Yogi bear, right?
• 56:32
  Cause it's, it's more picnic basket with that, that kind of clamshell goldwing type
• 56:37
  opening that it's got back there versus, you know, what the Auburn had, which was
• 56:41
  just that fixed rear end of basically a wooden boat and a kind of cool.
• 56:45
  But again, let's, let's push the boundary.
• 56:47
  Let's do the Lamborghini thing and come up with something different, you
• 56:50
  know, and really push it out there.
• 56:51
  And speaking of different,
• 56:53
  we don't talk about motorcycles very much, but there is a French
• 56:57
  company that is unveiling that they're going to build a prototype.
• 57:00
  For what is being called a super capacitor or ultra capacitor
• 57:05
  hybrid electric motorcycle.
• 57:07
  So not quite the same as the battery pack, like all the EVs right now, but instead
• 57:12
  of using basically capacitor technology, which is slightly different and there's
• 57:17
  no chemical reactions taking place that everything is electrostatically contained.
• 57:21
  So there's very quick discharges and also recharges.
• 57:25
  So that's kind of a benefit against batteries.
• 57:28
  You'd be able to recharge them faster.
• 57:29
  They're also alleged to cycle better, meaning you can go through many cycles
• 57:35
  of discharge, recharge, et cetera, more so than conventional batteries, which
• 57:41
  get battery degradation after a while.
• 57:43
  So, you know, there's some pros to it.
• 57:45
  There's some obvious cons to it as well.
• 57:47
  It's not going to be something that.
• 57:49
  Can handle long trips, things of that nature.
• 57:53
  You're not going to go cruising on the highway with big
• 57:55
  headwinds and things like that.
• 57:56
  This is really geared towards specifically urban motorcycling.
• 58:01
  Stop and go.
• 58:02
  You're just running here to there.
• 58:05
  And it's very futuristic looking.
• 58:07
  The way you describe that in some ways, people may be skeptical of
• 58:11
  this particular motorcycle, but if you look at the history of Honda.
• 58:15
  This is how the Cub started.
• 58:16
  It was a go to here to there to the grocery store right around town.
• 58:20
  It mobilized an entire workforce in Japan post war and all that kind of stuff.
• 58:24
  So maybe they're onto something, right?
• 58:26
  We got to start small, just like Honda did and build up to something bigger.
• 58:30
  Now I'm really surprised Honda hasn't gone in this direction
• 58:32
  with their history in motorcycles.
• 58:35
  But again, if you're off the beaten path and you live in smaller
• 58:38
  places, this makes more sense.
• 58:40
  Just like electric cars might make sense in Greece.
• 58:43
  And
• 58:45
  this looks like it might be competition for the Volcon Grunt that
• 58:48
  we talked about last year, right?
• 58:50
  There's some other innovative ideas out there.
• 58:53
  Not all of them are good.
• 58:54
  And I want to share with the audience, remember to check in on our show
• 58:58
  notes and the follow on article that goes with this particular
• 59:01
  episode on a human powered vehicle.
• 59:04
  Vehicle, right?
• 59:04
  We don't need batteries.
• 59:05
  We don't need gasoline or diesel.
• 59:08
  We got human power right now.
• 59:11
  You might be thinking maybe the footmobile from the Flintstones.
• 59:17
  Oh, no, no.
• 59:18
  This is more akin to snidely whiplash on the railroad.
• 59:23
  So if you watch this video, I think it's absolutely hilarious.
• 59:25
  This guy basically built a kit car, kind of looks like a weird late nineties
• 59:29
  Camaro, and he's pumping away at it.
• 59:32
  Basically he builds like the kinetic energy in the system and then he drives
• 59:35
  along the highway and he's on open roads, which scares the crap out of me.
• 59:39
  No helmets, no nothing.
• 59:40
  I still don't understand how the suspension or the steering works, but I
• 59:44
  just wanted to share this with you guys.
• 59:45
  Cause I think it's an absolute riot.
• 59:47
  A hundred percent.
• 59:48
  It's a railroad hand car, hand trolley, pump trolley,
• 59:53
  whatever you want to call it.
• 59:55
  It's the classic.
• 59:56
  Back in the day, two guys that were pumping up and down on the, on
• 1:00:01
  the lever back and forth, and they were rolling down the train tracks.
• 1:00:05
  That's what this is.
• 1:00:06
  Okay.
• 1:00:07
  It's a bicycle that you don't use your legs with.
• 1:00:10
  You pump the pedals with your hands.
• 1:00:14
  I think it's super, super cool and you know, the guy is clearly smoking
• 1:00:18
  something by coming up with the invention, but the fact that it's 38,
• 1:00:21
  000 pounds to buy is incredible, right?
• 1:00:25
  But it is super, super cool.
• 1:00:27
  I mean, it, you know, it almost makes you wonder why we didn't just go this route.
• 1:00:30
  Right.
• 1:00:30
  It'd be a kindler, friendlier, friendlier, you know, way to mode of transportation.
• 1:00:35
  Cause leg day, bro.
• 1:00:36
  I
• 1:00:36
  mean, who
• 1:00:37
  wants arms like the rock to go to work?
• 1:00:40
  That is true.
• 1:00:41
  Well, you know, what cracks me up about this is somebody would eventually find
• 1:00:43
  a way to automate that rowing process.
• 1:00:46
  And then it would be just, you know, another gas, somebody hook up their
• 1:00:48
  gasoline powered lawnmower to it.
• 1:00:50
  So it cranks that thing.
• 1:00:52
  And then we're back at hybrid again.
• 1:00:53
  Oh, you mean a car?
• 1:00:59
  We'd be remiss if we didn't move into our next section, which is the Tesla news.
• 1:01:05
  Oh God.
• 1:01:05
  Here we go.
• 1:01:06
  Outline on all things Tesla, not all things Tesla.
• 1:01:10
  We do cover some other, uh, interesting topics here, but
• 1:01:13
  we always start off with Tesla.
• 1:01:14
  So without further ado, the, uh, Plaid edition of the model S.
• 1:01:20
  Is finally slated to arrive.
• 1:01:23
  It is happening, and it is going to be the quote, fastest production
• 1:01:28
  car ever, according to Mr.
• 1:01:31
  Musk,
• 1:01:32
  until the Roadster hits the street,
• 1:01:34
  until something else.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:01:37
  Until the lucid air, uh, the labor.
• 1:01:39
  I don't say in,
• 1:01:40
  I mean, come on,
• 1:01:41
  this is, well, this is the one that.
• 1:01:42
  The thousand horsepower, blah, blah, blah, which I think the lucid air alleges 1100.
• 1:01:49
  So the lucid air is supposed to debut, I think this year.
• 1:01:52
  So if it does come out, maybe.
• 1:01:54
  That will be the fastest production car ever.
• 1:01:56
  Now there was a plaid plus edition, which was the one I think that got
• 1:02:02
  you that extra a hundred horsepower, but that has apparently been canceled
• 1:02:05
  because the regular plaid is just so awesome as it is, there is apparently
• 1:02:11
  no need for the plus edition, according to Musk, so they've canned that.
• 1:02:15
  Okay.
• 1:02:16
  Maybe somebody can answer this.
• 1:02:17
  If you're listening, you know, comment, write us, call us, text us, whatever.
• 1:02:21
  When I hear the word plaid.
• 1:02:23
  Two things come to mind, Braveheart and boring, right?
• 1:02:26
  And not because Braveheart is boring, but plaid is boring to look at.
• 1:02:30
  So what is the deal with this plaid name?
• 1:02:32
  Like, what is the significance of this?
• 1:02:34
  Maybe, maybe Edson can tell
• 1:02:35
  us.
• 1:02:36
  He has told me, and my understanding is, I think.
• 1:02:38
  I think it's a space balls reference.
• 1:02:40
  Like they go beyond light speed and they go plaid.
• 1:02:43
  I think something along those lines.
• 1:02:45
  So it's some kind of in the know, which is why
• 1:02:48
  there's ludicrous mode and all that other stuff.
• 1:02:50
  I might be wrong.
• 1:02:52
  It's something like that though.
• 1:02:53
  But I can tell you the, so we do mountain runs, uh, Edson has a model three, and
• 1:02:59
  then we have another friend that has a model S, uh, the performance and serve
• 1:03:02
  Perfer Monte or whatever they call it.
• 1:03:04
  And that car is no joke.
• 1:03:06
  I mean, that one is it's a couple of years old now, but it's zero to 60
• 1:03:09
  and two, two, and it is just crazy.
• 1:03:12
  But I feel like they probably discontinued the plaid plus because of what we were
• 1:03:15
  talking about earlier with the roadster.
• 1:03:17
  That's going to do zero to 60 and sub 1.
• 1:03:19
  1.
• 1:03:20
  Although I know they wouldn't get a full second out of it.
• 1:03:22
  You know, at some point you start eating into your own market share there.
• 1:03:25
  I think there's the roadster that does it sub 1.
• 1:03:28
  1 with the cannons.
• 1:03:29
  And then otherwise it's like 1.
• 1:03:31
  8 or something.
• 1:03:32
  So.
• 1:03:32
  I mean, you know, Tesla is lovely.
• 1:03:36
  They've done a lot to disrupt the car culture and technology and all that.
• 1:03:42
  And that's wonderful.
• 1:03:43
  And that's great.
• 1:03:44
  But for 114, 000, I still want something else.
• 1:03:48
  I don't care if it has a thousand horsepower and does 2.
• 1:03:50
  2 seconds, zero to 60, like, I want to, you know, it has a thousand horsepower.
• 1:03:54
  It costs,
• 1:03:55
  you know, it has a thousand horsepower.
• 1:03:56
  It costs half as much.
• 1:03:57
  Challenge your Hellcat.
• 1:03:58
  Just going to put it out there.
• 1:04:00
  Well, that's a good argument though.
• 1:04:01
  I mean, and the argument both ways is, well, you know, and I'll keep
• 1:04:04
  using the Roadster as an example.
• 1:04:05
  The Roadster is going to be two 50 and it's going to smoke any car.
• 1:04:09
  There is Bugatti.
• 1:04:11
  All of those buying these.
• 1:04:13
  Here's my problem with it though.
• 1:04:14
  All of these cars are not particularly attractive.
• 1:04:16
  I think they're pretty vanilla.
• 1:04:18
  So you pull up in a road, sort of LA and they park you in the back
• 1:04:21
  because they don't know any better.
• 1:04:22
  Right?
• 1:04:22
  So you pull up in your, your hurricane or your guy or your, even, you know, older
• 1:04:27
  stuff and they're going to go, Oh, wow.
• 1:04:29
  That's special.
• 1:04:29
  You know, even a three 60 Ferrari, which you can get for a quarter of this for half
• 1:04:33
  this price, you're going to be up front.
• 1:04:35
  That plaid is going to be in the back somewhere collecting dust.
• 1:04:37
  I mean, honestly, they're vanilla on the outside, the vanilla on
• 1:04:40
  the inside and they're vanilla.
• 1:04:42
  On my butt in the seat, because I've driven a model three before, and I
• 1:04:46
  felt like I was driving a Nissan Ultima that I got out of the Hertz rental lot.
• 1:04:52
  I mean, other than the fact that if you stop on it, yeah, you get thrown back in
• 1:04:56
  the seat because there's so much torque.
• 1:04:58
  Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  The acceleration is ridiculous in an EV, but I don't know.
• 1:05:01
  Maybe I need to drive a different one, but I say, you're just cruising around town.
• 1:05:05
  It was no different than anything else.
• 1:05:07
  It felt like a rental car.
• 1:05:08
  I wasn't blown away.
• 1:05:09
  I didn't feel like I was in this luxury for
• 1:05:11
  spending tens of thousands of dollars.
• 1:05:14
  And I'm with Tanya where the Tesla doesn't give me anything back.
• 1:05:17
  It hasn't convinced me yet that I can get rid of a GTI and have more fun.
• 1:05:22
  It's the fun factor for, at least for me.
• 1:05:24
  There's that straight line performance, but there's not that overall performance
• 1:05:27
  that I think, you know, like you said, it was visceral, you know, Tanya.
• 1:05:30
  And it's, to me, that's what I keep going back to is, yeah, it's fast in
• 1:05:34
  a straight line and yeah, it's faster than my car, but, uh, you know, I
• 1:05:37
  want to hear it, I want to hear that.
• 1:05:39
  I think I'd rather be in a, that Trans Am we talked about earlier, right?
• 1:05:43
  You feel like, well, I'm supposed to be going fast.
• 1:05:45
  It sounds like I'm going fast.
• 1:05:46
  I'm probably doing zero to 16, eight seconds, but man, it sounds
• 1:05:49
  good, you know, and it's smoking and I can smell it when eight
• 1:05:51
  seconds was fast.
• 1:05:53
  Like, wow, it does it in eight seconds.
• 1:05:54
  It's incredible.
• 1:05:56
  We can take the plaid to the next level with the, uh, Pikes Peak racer.
• 1:06:00
  Cause as we mentioned last year in the attempt at Pikes Peak, you
• 1:06:04
  know, we kind of joked about this.
• 1:06:05
  There were several episodes where we captured this and reported on it.
• 1:06:08
  Randy Pope's hooked up with unplugged performance, made
• 1:06:12
  several Pikes Peaks attempt.
• 1:06:13
  One time it went airborne.
• 1:06:14
  They did complete the run up to the sky and all that.
• 1:06:17
  They are returning.
• 1:06:18
  With a modified Tesla plaid edition and are going to attempt the race to
• 1:06:24
  the sky yet again, taking to the plaid to the entire next level, probably
• 1:06:28
  into the stratosphere because it's going to completely launch into orbit.
• 1:06:31
  Good on them.
• 1:06:32
  That's awesome.
• 1:06:32
  Curious to see how it turns out.
• 1:06:33
  I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure Randy is doing it again.
• 1:06:35
  I saw a video that he posted a day ago, so that'd be interesting to check out.
• 1:06:38
  And there's a really great show on Motor Trend about, uh, last year about
• 1:06:41
  them running and wrecking and things.
• 1:06:43
  So it's pretty cool.
• 1:06:44
  Boring company.
• 1:06:46
  I take that as you will.
• 1:06:48
  That's a real thing, right?
• 1:06:49
  That's, that's called the boring company.
• 1:06:50
  She sounds
• 1:06:51
  excited.
• 1:06:51
  But it's like boring through something.
• 1:06:54
  This is the boring company that's making the underground hyperloop.
• 1:06:58
  If you remember tunnels in Las Vegas, where the Teslas were going
• 1:07:02
  to ride on skates at high speed, fully autonomous and zip you through,
• 1:07:07
  you know, these underground tubes.
• 1:07:09
  So you could move out Las Vegas without.
• 1:07:12
  Walking around in a hundred million degree heat and all the traffic
• 1:07:16
  and congestion and all that.
• 1:07:17
  So they finally, uh, completed a 1.
• 1:07:20
  5 mile loop and it's not quite as promised.
• 1:07:25
  So yes, as most things, yes, there are these tunnels underground.
• 1:07:31
  Yes, a Tesla vehicle drives through them, but no, they're not on whatever
• 1:07:36
  these alleged skates were going to be.
• 1:07:39
  No, they're not self driving.
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  And no, they cannot go at high speed.
• 1:07:43
  So they are driven and they cannot exceed 35 miles an hour.
• 1:07:46
  And it's basically a car that drives through an
• 1:07:49
  underground tunnel.
• 1:07:49
  So what you're telling me is Tesla has an Uber service in Vegas right now, and
• 1:07:55
  it was replaced by the existing monorail.
• 1:07:58
  That already does everything you describe taking people from, you know,
• 1:08:02
  one place to the other doing a loop and they don't have to walk or be in,
• 1:08:05
  you know, the sun, you know, the way I read it and the way I looked at it.
• 1:08:08
  It's like the scariest small world ride.
• 1:08:10
  You could have ever presented to me being trapped in a Tesla with a
• 1:08:13
  Johnny cab going around in Las Vegas.
• 1:08:15
  So I'm kind of glad it's just an Uber.
• 1:08:18
  I mean, it's not done yet.
• 1:08:19
  There's plans for the next segments to be added on.
• 1:08:23
  I don't know.
• 1:08:25
  And all of that is super boring.
• 1:08:30
  If you're claustrophobic, I can't imagine this is fun, but
• 1:08:33
  here's my issue with it, right?
• 1:08:35
  So it's a mile and a half and it takes you from one side of traffic to the other.
• 1:08:39
  To the other.
• 1:08:40
  So it's not like it's avoiding all of the traffic.
• 1:08:42
  So basically you're just the asshole that cuts line and a mile and a half to get
• 1:08:46
  up in the front, just like the guys that ride down the emergency lane in traffic.
• 1:08:50
  I don't understand the logic here, right?
• 1:08:51
  It's great.
• 1:08:52
  You can speed through the tunnel, but you're still going to stop at
• 1:08:55
  the end, which means you're just going to back up model threes all
• 1:08:57
  the way back through that tunnel.
• 1:08:58
  So,
• 1:08:59
  because we all know that Vegas is really Disney world for adults.
• 1:09:02
  I mean, so it's just another attraction, ride, amusement to
• 1:09:07
  add to the amusement park, right?
• 1:09:09
  I mean, it's just whatever.
• 1:09:10
  It's, it's, it's a novelty.
• 1:09:12
  I
• 1:09:12
  mean, why not, if you have the technology to allegedly make the
• 1:09:16
  tunnel boring way more cost effective than doing something above ground.
• 1:09:22
  See, and this is where the frustrating thing of all this is.
• 1:09:25
  It's like, if you have this technology, why don't you just Frickin build a subway.
• 1:09:29
  Why don't you build a train that can hold people on a rail that would be an
• 1:09:34
  autonomous because a lot of the Metro rail systems actually drive themselves.
• 1:09:38
  Yes.
• 1:09:38
  There's a conductor in there to monitor, but for the most part, it's like a plane.
• 1:09:42
  They put them on autopilot and they go and use that technology to bring the
• 1:09:45
  cost down and actually move people.
• 1:09:48
  Not like this gimmick of throwing a roadster in space to be space junk.
• 1:09:53
  This gimmick to like, Oh, the Tesla drives in the tunnel.
• 1:09:56
  Like who gives a crap?
• 1:09:58
  How many people do you fit in a Tesla?
• 1:10:00
  You know what you just described?
• 1:10:01
  You know what you just described?
• 1:10:03
  The monorail.
• 1:10:05
  It's
• 1:10:05
  autonomous.
• 1:10:05
  And guess what?
• 1:10:06
  It's an EV.
• 1:10:07
  It's already there because we're, we like recreating the wheel.
• 1:10:11
  Okay.
• 1:10:11
  That's what it is.
• 1:10:12
  That's where we're at right now.
• 1:10:14
  Well, and the thing is, if they've uncovered technology that makes it more
• 1:10:17
  cost effective to do it underground safely, and you don't have to do it
• 1:10:22
  above ground and be in the way of putting cranes, blocking traffic, disrupting
• 1:10:27
  everything, it's kind of out of sight.
• 1:10:30
  Okay, well, let's do it in a way that makes sense, not
• 1:10:33
  in a way that's a gimmick.
• 1:10:35
  I'm getting the feeling through this entire episode that
• 1:10:37
  Tanya is not sold on Tesla.
• 1:10:39
  I could be wrong.
• 1:10:40
  Oh, I mean, the entire series of
• 1:10:42
  the drive thru, I
• 1:10:42
  think at this
• 1:10:43
  point.
• 1:10:43
  I'm
• 1:10:44
  making enemies.
• 1:10:44
  I'm making enemies.
• 1:10:45
  I mean,
• 1:10:46
  since we're talking about things that are incredibly boring.
• 1:10:49
  Donovan, what
• 1:10:50
  did you discover?
• 1:10:51
  Okay.
• 1:10:51
  So I came across these videos.
• 1:10:53
  There's a repair shop somewhere in England and they're probably very
• 1:10:57
  prestigious, but they walk you through basically the owner's manual of
• 1:11:01
  these very unobtainium cars, right?
• 1:11:03
  So they go through a 911 GT1, they go through a Mercedes CLK GTR.
• 1:11:09
  And while I did originally think they were boring, I can't stop watching them.
• 1:11:13
  It's incredible, right?
• 1:11:14
  So you watch it.
• 1:11:15
  I mean, you turned me on to these and I was like, what, what, okay, what is this?
• 1:11:19
  And about 30 seconds in, I'm like, wait, what, what are they doing?
• 1:11:23
  And then he started showing me a little bit more.
• 1:11:25
  It was like a strip tease almost.
• 1:11:27
  And I'm like, I'm like, come on, baby.
• 1:11:29
  Just come on a little bit more.
• 1:11:30
  Give me something else.
• 1:11:30
  And then he fires up that GTR and I'm like, Oh my God.
• 1:11:34
  It's over.
• 1:11:35
  It's so great.
• 1:11:37
  Right.
• 1:11:37
  You know, like in the, in the nine 11 GT one, there's a special tool that you
• 1:11:40
  have to use to unlatch the back hatch and things, things you would never think
• 1:11:44
  of that were designed, especially for that car, which is just incredible.
• 1:11:47
  It's, it's, it's really car porn.
• 1:11:49
  And, uh, you know, I love on the McLaren.
• 1:11:52
  F one where they've got the special luggage and he tells you, you
• 1:11:55
  have to put it in, in this order.
• 1:11:56
  It won't fit.
• 1:11:57
  You know, I love all those kinds of things are the best one is, Hey, just
• 1:12:01
  in case when you're in here, you have to pull the door handle this way.
• 1:12:04
  Like anybody watching that video is going to ever be in a
• 1:12:07
  McLaren F1 in that situation.
• 1:12:08
  But yeah, they are amazing, amazing videos.
• 1:12:11
  I highly recommend
• 1:12:11
  they are pretty cool.
• 1:12:13
  And we're going to link to them in the show notes.
• 1:12:14
  So if you haven't seen them, definitely check them out.
• 1:12:16
  And Donovan, thank you for just.
• 1:12:18
  Putting me in another time suck of the internet by introducing me to these
• 1:12:22
  videos, boring cars, it's a thing, right?
• 1:12:25
  Then there's certain cars, you know, we talked about auctions earlier.
• 1:12:28
  We talked about collectibles, but I think we found one that just is undesirable.
• 1:12:33
  I don't understand this one.
• 1:12:35
  There's no way anybody can explain this one to me, Tanya.
• 1:12:39
  You can try if you want to.
• 1:12:40
  So apparently there was a company that converted a two CV into a roadster.
• 1:12:46
  In recent time.
• 1:12:47
  So I don't know why anybody would do that, first of all.
• 1:12:49
  So it's a 1986 Citroen two CV that was basically coached built by this
• 1:12:54
  company called Burton overseas, a Dutch coach builder, they put what
• 1:12:58
  I can only describe is, uh, somebody that saw maybe a cord and got drunk
• 1:13:04
  and spun around three times and tried to sketch it out on a piece of paper.
• 1:13:07
  It's hideous and not that a two CV is attractive, but I just don't understand.
• 1:13:11
  Right.
• 1:13:11
  Start with a better platform.
• 1:13:13
  This car sold.
• 1:13:14
  At an auction in Palm beach for 9, 000, which that's probably
• 1:13:19
  okay at it sold for 90, 000.
• 1:13:22
  I think I would just turn off the internet and call it a day,
• 1:13:24
  but I just, I don't understand.
• 1:13:26
  I don't understand that
• 1:13:27
  at the end of the day, this person, whoever it is, stayed
• 1:13:30
  nine grand for a dash of all.
• 1:13:32
  I mean, it didn't get any better to your point.
• 1:13:35
  It got uglier and the color does not help.
• 1:13:38
  It is like cord cream.
• 1:13:40
  I know it's going to sound weird.
• 1:13:41
  It's like creamed corn because cords came in that beige color.
• 1:13:46
  And it's just, it's terrible.
• 1:13:47
  It's unattractive.
• 1:13:48
  And I'm just like, why?
• 1:13:50
  It probably cost more to build that car.
• 1:13:52
  The two of them that they made, then it's worth today.
• 1:13:55
  I mean, it's just, ugh.
• 1:13:56
  Well, what
• 1:13:57
  I love about that is it's body work by Dutch customizer.
• 1:14:00
  Burton car company.
• 1:14:01
  So there's an entire company that thought it was a good idea to make this car to me,
• 1:14:06
  it's promising for the rest of us, right?
• 1:14:07
  We just go to a junkyard and find a bunch of random parts and throw it on some
• 1:14:11
  civic or something and call it a day and maybe we can get nine grand for it.
• 1:14:14
  Who knows?
• 1:14:15
  You know, we're, we're talking a lot about bored and boring and boring
• 1:14:19
  cars and ugly cars, but you know.
• 1:14:21
  This next one really takes the cake.
• 1:14:23
  How about a boring job?
• 1:14:25
  You get a job as an intern with Nissan.
• 1:14:28
  That sounds pretty good.
• 1:14:29
  Doesn't sound too bad, right?
• 1:14:31
  Oh, I like cars and Nissan.
• 1:14:33
  Sure.
• 1:14:33
  Why not?
• 1:14:35
  You show up your first day at work, sit down to boss.
• 1:14:39
  I handed you your assignment.
• 1:14:40
  Well, there, you know, we're going to have you go out and rush our traffic and
• 1:14:46
  sit there for months, every day for the next three months of your internship.
• 1:14:51
  And we want you to record the activities of our adaptive cruise control system.
• 1:14:56
  Oh my God.
• 1:14:57
  So I think this is just spin.
• 1:14:59
  I think what happened is somebody at Nissan had an a hole intern and they said,
• 1:15:04
  you know what, you're going to go sit in traffic and the news news got wind of it.
• 1:15:08
  You know, how can Nissan treat this guy this way?
• 1:15:10
  And they say, no, no, no.
• 1:15:11
  It was for research.
• 1:15:13
  We had him sit in traffic in LA on purpose.
• 1:15:15
  Oh, and Detroit and the other cities had an on purpose because we're
• 1:15:19
  doing some research here on traffic.
• 1:15:21
  I like that.
• 1:15:21
  That sounds plausible.
• 1:15:23
  I
• 1:15:24
  mean, my question is, how much was this paying internship?
• 1:15:27
  He had to be drinking, I'm sure.
• 1:15:29
  I wouldn't wish that job on my enemy.
• 1:15:31
  I mean, can you imagine the road rage?
• 1:15:33
  Or do you become desensitized to it after a while?
• 1:15:36
  But see, it's your job, so now you don't care.
• 1:15:38
  So it's like,
• 1:15:39
  oh.
• 1:15:40
  How do you slack off at a job when you sit in traffic all day long?
• 1:15:43
  How
• 1:15:43
  does that work?
• 1:15:44
  Hey, yo boss, I'm gonna be late.
• 1:15:46
  Well, the scary part is he's researching adaptive cruise control.
• 1:15:49
  So he's already not really controlling the car.
• 1:15:52
  So, you know, he's probably got Taco Bell in there.
• 1:15:54
  He's probably playing candy crush.
• 1:15:55
  Maybe he had his girlfriend in the car.
• 1:15:57
  So it could just be a big party.
• 1:15:58
  You never know.
• 1:15:59
  There's some really bad
• 1:16:00
  jobs and then there's this, that's all I'm going to say.
• 1:16:03
  Wrapping up.
• 1:16:04
  We have one final story.
• 1:16:05
  Strange things were afoot at the Circle K in North Carolina.
• 1:16:10
  At least it's not a Florida man story.
• 1:16:12
  No, this is the Carolina man story.
• 1:16:14
  And the added maraschino cherry on top is that it involves an HHR.
• 1:16:22
  Did it
• 1:16:22
  sell for 90, 000 to bring a trailer?
• 1:16:24
  A fan favorite here.
• 1:16:25
  Now, you know, this is not terribly funny actually, unless this was all
• 1:16:31
  a stunt, which who knows could be, but apparently allegedly some sort
• 1:16:36
  of kerfuffle happened that a circle K that somehow resulted in a man.
• 1:16:41
  Hanging off the hood of an HHR as the driver of the HHR goes onto
• 1:16:48
  a highway and speeds away with this man dangling for dear life.
• 1:16:53
  I think that's hilarious.
• 1:16:55
  And the reason I think it's hilarious is To me, it's just the
• 1:16:58
  spite of the whole thing, right?
• 1:17:00
  It says the guy wouldn't move out of the way.
• 1:17:02
  So I can only imagine the HHR kind of nudged him and nudged him.
• 1:17:05
  And the guy jumped on the hood and he said, well, I'll show you, I'll get on
• 1:17:08
  the interstate and we'll do 80 miles an hour and see how long you hang on.
• 1:17:11
  Now, lucky for the guy driving that this guy didn't fall off and kill
• 1:17:15
  himself, which probably would have been vehicular manslaughter, but
• 1:17:18
  you know, it's like, okay, well, maybe that guy will think twice next
• 1:17:20
  time about staying in front of a.
• 1:17:21
  HHR, but you know what else it's the only time somebody uttered the words
• 1:17:25
  I held onto the HHR for dear life,
• 1:17:29
  but you got to love the fact that nobody called the police.
• 1:17:32
  That's like the underlying theme in this article is nobody called that.
• 1:17:34
  They just put their video of it on Instagram, which is hilarious,
• 1:17:37
  that whole psychological, uh, whatever it's called, where
• 1:17:41
  you think somebody else's.
• 1:17:43
  It's going to do it for you.
• 1:17:44
  A hundred percent took place during that event.
• 1:17:46
  Unfortunately,
• 1:17:47
  no good Samaritan comes to the aid of an HHR.
• 1:17:50
  That's all I'm going to say.
• 1:17:50
  So I will ask you though, is that a better way to spend your time in
• 1:17:54
  traffic than the Nissan guy, the intern?
• 1:17:56
  I mean, it's definitely more exciting.
• 1:17:58
  I'll give you that.
• 1:17:58
  It's a toss
• 1:17:59
  up, right?
• 1:18:00
  Are you the driver or the guy hanging on?
• 1:18:02
  The guy hanging on.
• 1:18:04
  Well, now folks, it is time for us to go behind the pit wall and bring you
• 1:18:08
  all of the latest Hunter Sports News.
• 1:18:12
  So first up.
• 1:18:13
  Let's talk about Coda and NASCARs.
• 1:18:15
  I forgot about that race and I would have been interested in like seeing a couple
• 1:18:20
  laps of it because it's NASCARs on Coda.
• 1:18:22
  What could possibly go right?
• 1:18:24
  I didn't see any of it.
• 1:18:25
  I heard about it.
• 1:18:26
  Apparently there was a huge downpour and track visibility from some of
• 1:18:30
  the still shots I saw was pretty bad.
• 1:18:32
  pretty darn poor.
• 1:18:33
  And of course, you know, immediately all the people that aren't NASCAR fans.
• 1:18:39
  NASCAR people don't know how to drive.
• 1:18:41
  They can't drive in the rain.
• 1:18:42
  Every other sports body drives in the rain.
• 1:18:44
  They're just crying.
• 1:18:46
  It's too bad.
• 1:18:46
  Like when you look at the still shots, it's like I can't tell that there's
• 1:18:50
  a car in front of them, but there is.
• 1:18:52
  I can't imagine that that's easy to be driving a NASCAR,
• 1:18:55
  which In a torrential downpour.
• 1:18:57
  On a road course in a torrential downpour on a track you've never been to before.
• 1:19:00
  It probably had like five practice laps on or something.
• 1:19:04
  I mean, let's not be so harsh.
• 1:19:06
  Apparently the poor visibility caused a number of rear ending incidents
• 1:19:10
  and crashes for several drivers.
• 1:19:13
  So it was an exciting race.
• 1:19:15
  Yeah.
• 1:19:15
  And I heard that Harvick was left pretty pissed off about the whole situation.
• 1:19:19
  Probably should have called the race earlier.
• 1:19:21
  I mean, when visibility, I mean, the flaggers should know better.
• 1:19:23
  If you can't see the cars and they can't see you, it might, you're
• 1:19:27
  too late at that point, right?
• 1:19:28
  They should have called the race earlier, probably prevented the
• 1:19:31
  massive loss in the budget that they're going to have to replace these cars.
• 1:19:34
  I mean, I know they got like 16 backup cars, but still some
• 1:19:37
  of this stuff could be avoided.
• 1:19:39
  I don't agree.
• 1:19:39
  You know, all racers racing the rain at some point, there just comes a
• 1:19:43
  time where you got to call it, right?
• 1:19:44
  If the visibility is that bad, it's bad for everybody.
• 1:19:46
  So it's not safe, right?
• 1:19:48
  Going back to if you ever watch rush, right?
• 1:19:50
  That was the big thing with, with Niki Lauda and those guys, it's unsafe.
• 1:19:54
  Conditions right now, just call it and be done.
• 1:19:56
  It's not worth the risk.
• 1:19:57
  So I got to admit, you know, I was initially, when I saw this article, one
• 1:20:00
  of those guys of, Oh, too bad NASCAR, you don't race the rain, you know, cry babies.
• 1:20:04
  But, you know, when you think about it, they're not prepared, right?
• 1:20:07
  F1 has special rules, even for, you know, the tire choice and things to rain.
• 1:20:11
  And I know NASCAR is not equipped with that, but it makes me wonder, you know,
• 1:20:14
  how desperate is NASCAR to get our attention these days, you know, was, was
• 1:20:18
  the call, Hey, this will make good TV.
• 1:20:20
  Right.
• 1:20:20
  You know, I have to kind of believe it is, you know, let's do something different.
• 1:20:23
  That's exciting.
• 1:20:24
  You know, they've already gone to a dirt track this year,
• 1:20:25
  so they're trying new things.
• 1:20:27
  Maybe it was, Hey, let's let them out there and see what happens.
• 1:20:29
  It's kind of unfortunate.
• 1:20:30
  I think
• 1:20:31
  it could be part of it too.
• 1:20:32
  Exactly.
• 1:20:32
  I mean, I always err on the side of safety.
• 1:20:34
  That's always my number one concern.
• 1:20:36
  So for me, you know, the television ratings.
• 1:20:38
  Well, hopefully next time at Coda, it'll be dry and we'll
• 1:20:41
  get to see an actual race.
• 1:20:42
  I'm with Tanya.
• 1:20:43
  I'm kind of excited that if I remembered that it was on the schedule and I had free
• 1:20:47
  time to check it out, or even on a replay, it would have been cool to see that
• 1:20:50
  race because I think watching NASCAR's at Coda would be pretty interesting,
• 1:20:53
  but moving on to the Indy 500.
• 1:20:55
  The big one, there's some exciting news
• 1:20:58
  there as well with women making history in racing and in the Indy 500 specifically
• 1:21:04
  for the first time ever, the Piretta Autosport Chevrolet team, the number 16
• 1:21:09
  is whose driver is Simona Di Silvestro.
• 1:21:13
  Her crew is pretty much over 50 percent women.
• 1:21:17
  So she's got four for seven over the wall, pit crew being women, two
• 1:21:21
  women, spotters, two women, engineers, um, data acquisition, et cetera.
• 1:21:25
  So that's pretty exciting to see a team of so many women supporting
• 1:21:30
  motor sports driver and racing team.
• 1:21:33
  Bravo.
• 1:21:34
  That's pretty
• 1:21:34
  awesome.
• 1:21:34
  Yeah,
• 1:21:35
  for
• 1:21:35
  sure.
• 1:21:35
  Now, we know that the Indy 500 came and went, but there was a big kerfuffle
• 1:21:39
  at the Indy 500 about the brakes.
• 1:21:41
  There were a bunch of accidents in the pit, coming off the pit, pulling
• 1:21:45
  in, you know, crashes, speeding violations, all sorts of stuff.
• 1:21:49
  People were left asking, what's the deal?
• 1:21:51
  Why can't these cars stop?
• 1:21:53
  What's going on, right?
• 1:21:54
  These weren't on track incidents.
• 1:21:55
  They were all happening in low speed environments where the cars We're
• 1:21:58
  seemingly not stopping in my research.
• 1:22:01
  What I discovered was because at a big race, like the 500, oftentimes they don't
• 1:22:07
  use the brakes at all for long periods of time, unless they're coming into the pit.
• 1:22:10
  And so what they have is these brake pad retractors that keep the pads away from
• 1:22:16
  the rotor so that there's no sort of drag.
• 1:22:19
  And when they're on track, they just lift off the throttle or
• 1:22:21
  use aerodynamic drag to slow down the vehicles that they need to.
• 1:22:25
  So it takes an incredible amount of force.
• 1:22:27
  To get the cars to stop.
• 1:22:29
  And oftentimes the brake pads are quite cold.
• 1:22:32
  And if you've ever used racing brake pads before, they don't
• 1:22:34
  grip unless they're hot.
• 1:22:36
  So in this case, there were tons of crashes due to folks not being able
• 1:22:41
  to basically depress the brakes quick enough or hard enough to get the vehicles
• 1:22:45
  to stop in these different situations.
• 1:22:47
  So that's what was up with the brakes and all these.
• 1:22:50
  Seemingly odd crashes at the Indy 500.
• 1:22:53
  Shouldn't they know by now though?
• 1:22:55
  You would think
• 1:22:58
  you can't account for all of it.
• 1:22:59
  There's another great video that I came across that I want to share with you
• 1:23:02
  guys on several drive through episodes.
• 1:23:04
  Brad and Tanya have brought to my attention, how much I really need to
• 1:23:08
  watch drive to survive on Netflix.
• 1:23:11
  You know, it's like the hot to do, you know, drama of formula one.
• 1:23:15
  I still haven't watched yet, but I will say this.
• 1:23:17
  I did watch.
• 1:23:18
  The video that we posted along with the show notes about how drive to
• 1:23:22
  survive will portray Mick Schumacher hitting Vettel in the knee.
• 1:23:27
  And it is absolutely hilarious.
• 1:23:29
  And if it's anything like the show, you've got my attention.
• 1:23:33
  I just got to set aside the time to check it out.
• 1:23:35
  I think it's pretty awesome, but you know, realistically, he's got to worry
• 1:23:38
  more about Mazipin than he does, uh, Vettel out there with his, you see,
• 1:23:43
  recently they were talking about how he doesn't trust Mazipin as his own teammate,
• 1:23:46
  almost running him off the track.
• 1:23:47
  But I think that's cool.
• 1:23:49
  You know, honestly, for me and Drive to Survive is an amazing show.
• 1:23:53
  I miss Vettel being in the headlines.
• 1:23:55
  You know, I started watching, I tried to watch F1 for the longest
• 1:23:58
  time and just couldn't get into it.
• 1:23:59
  And, uh, you know, I think 2017, I started watching and, you know,
• 1:24:03
  Vettel was still, he was still spicy.
• 1:24:05
  You know, that's, he's running into Hamilton and doing break checks
• 1:24:08
  and things, and, you know, now he just seems so kind of mellow
• 1:24:12
  and almost in retirement phase.
• 1:24:14
  can I say
• 1:24:15
  that his career went the way of his hairline?
• 1:24:17
  Hey, He's talking about my hair too, you know, anything that brings him back.
• 1:24:22
  I mean, I don't know.
• 1:24:23
  I mean, I don't know if he's, maybe he's just lost his fire, but you
• 1:24:26
  know, I think that'll be interesting.
• 1:24:27
  And you know, it'd be cool to see those two as teammates too.
• 1:24:29
  I think Schumacher has a lot to learn from him.
• 1:24:31
  I mean, obviously, you know, his dad was amazing, but you know,
• 1:24:34
  maybe there'll be teammates one day.
• 1:24:35
  That'd be really
• 1:24:36
  cool.
• 1:24:36
  And since we're talking about formula one, my wife asked the other day, and
• 1:24:38
  I'm going to ask on her behalf, does anybody know, or has heard anything
• 1:24:42
  different about Michael Schumacher?
• 1:24:45
  No,
• 1:24:46
  no, I haven't.
• 1:24:47
  I haven't heard anything in a
• 1:24:47
  long time.
• 1:24:49
  I check periodically, and basically it's always the same news.
• 1:24:52
  The family is very closed mouthed about anything.
• 1:24:56
  I think the only person that really gets to go into the inner circle and
• 1:25:00
  probably also knows what's going on besides doctors or other immediate
• 1:25:03
  family members is Felipe Massa, because apparently they were pretty close friends.
• 1:25:07
  So there are reports that, you know, he gets to go visit and things like that.
• 1:25:11
  But for the most part, the reports still basically say the same thing.
• 1:25:14
  He is alive, but it almost sounds like he's dead.
• 1:25:19
  I mean, he is out of the coma, but I don't know the scale of a wake.
• 1:25:25
  What
• 1:25:25
  that means just because your eyes are open, who knows?
• 1:25:28
  Maybe one day all of a sudden he's going to come out walking out the
• 1:25:30
  front door because they've kept it quiet, but that would be awesome.
• 1:25:34
  That would be
• 1:25:34
  awesome.
• 1:25:35
  I mean, it, it hurts me to even think about it.
• 1:25:38
  I mean, Schumacher is definitely a hero right up there with Senna and others,
• 1:25:42
  but yeah, I, you know, I, like you guys, I want to touch back periodically, but
• 1:25:46
  it was funny because she brought it up the other day and I was like, you
• 1:25:48
  know, I really don't know the answer and you know what, I'm going to find out.
• 1:25:52
  So there we go.
• 1:25:53
  But you know, let's move to some happier things.
• 1:25:55
  Let's talk about my favorite discipline, WRC.
• 1:25:58
  When you think of WRC, does a Prius normally come to mind?
• 1:26:03
  Hell no!
• 1:26:03
  I'm thinking Yari Mati Lakpala and the Yaris.
• 1:26:07
  Uh.
• 1:26:07
  Well, maybe you need to start rethinking that and start thinking,
• 1:26:12
  what is a Toyota Rally Prius?
• 1:26:14
  Look like
• 1:26:15
  I can tell you what it sounds like.
• 1:26:17
  Nothing that is, that is correct.
• 1:26:21
  It does not sound like anything.
• 1:26:22
  However, it does look pretty cool.
• 1:26:24
  I mean, it looks like a Prius, but with some nice livery on it, whatever.
• 1:26:29
  They didn't just create some monster and put a badge on the front that says
• 1:26:32
  Toyota and yeah, there's a battery in it.
• 1:26:35
  Like.
• 1:26:36
  No, this is actually a Prius that they gutted.
• 1:26:38
  They stripped the interior down as much as possible.
• 1:26:40
  They put a roll cage in, they put racing seats, they got rid of the glass, put
• 1:26:44
  plexiglass in, apparently they even, it would be because the front of your
• 1:26:50
  suspension borrow parts off the TRD RAV4.
• 1:26:53
  SUV, which I'm assuming is all wheel drive.
• 1:26:57
  So what they talk about in terms of like spec, so they did change a bunch of parts.
• 1:27:01
  So apparently the front springs are from a Camry.
• 1:27:04
  The rear springs are from an Avalon TRD.
• 1:27:06
  I didn't even know there was an Avalon TRD.
• 1:27:08
  That
• 1:27:08
  just blown my mind right there.
• 1:27:12
  Oh, Toyota.
• 1:27:13
  And then, you know, they put rally tires on it, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:27:17
  Apparently the powertrain is the powertrain of a Prius.
• 1:27:21
  So they're out there rallying a rally prep Prius.
• 1:27:25
  Is it safe to say that's probably the only cool Prius in the world?
• 1:27:29
  I mean, it is still Prius powered though, which kind of takes back from it, but
• 1:27:32
  well, there was a Prius touring car.
• 1:27:34
  A couple years ago, which is pretty cool.
• 1:27:36
  Yeah.
• 1:27:37
  I give it that.
• 1:27:38
  I had like big team dynamics on it.
• 1:27:39
  They actually had at the DC auto show.
• 1:27:40
  I have pictures of it.
• 1:27:41
  And, uh, so I don't know that they did that well with it, but they've been like
• 1:27:45
  kind of supplanting the Prius in different disciplines to just get attention,
• 1:27:49
  but I also wonder if they're using it.
• 1:27:51
  As a test mule, right.
• 1:27:53
  In some respects, like maybe that's the future of the Yaris, right.
• 1:27:56
  We'll put it in the Prius and nobody will pay attention to it.
• 1:27:59
  And everybody kind of laughs.
• 1:28:00
  Meanwhile, they're testing out like whatever the next gen platform is
• 1:28:04
  for the GR Yaris or whatever it is they're going to use in WRC.
• 1:28:08
  So I don't see this competing in WRC one against, you know, Tiri
• 1:28:13
  Nuville and Oitanic and those guys is probably down way in the.
• 1:28:16
  The bowels of WRC three, but good on Toyota.
• 1:28:19
  If it's, especially if this is a factory car sponsored by them, knowing
• 1:28:23
  the history of Toyota, maybe not as strong as I do some of the other
• 1:28:26
  brands, I wouldn't put it past them that this is an experiment, you know,
• 1:28:29
  that they're trying something out.
• 1:28:31
  I have two thoughts on that one is, well, if that is the case,
• 1:28:33
  they're kind of cutting edge, right?
• 1:28:35
  Because that's the way it's going.
• 1:28:36
  And then the sad thought is, Oh my God, is that the way rally car is going?
• 1:28:40
  Can you imagine rally and 2025 and all you hear is rock noise?
• 1:28:45
  You know, you don't hear those engines screaming.
• 1:28:47
  That that's sad.
• 1:28:47
  Well, you know, and that goes back to a point from earlier that I wanted to kind
• 1:28:51
  of get to, you know, you were talking about the Lambos and all these cars
• 1:28:53
  getting silent, maybe in the future.
• 1:28:56
  To take a page from BMW's playbook, instead of pumping the sound into the
• 1:29:01
  car of like a V8 when you really have a four cylinder turbo is we'll just
• 1:29:04
  have like exhaust by Bose and exhaust by, you know, beats or whatever.
• 1:29:09
  And it'll just blast the sound of an old Lamborghini and you're
• 1:29:12
  in your EV and it'll be cool.
• 1:29:14
  What kind of sub you got as an exhaust, right?
• 1:29:16
  And I think about it that way.
• 1:29:17
  So if I had a Tesla and I was playing with the buttons the other day in a
• 1:29:20
  model three, and I know you can make the radio play outside, I would have it
• 1:29:25
  do something like, Hey, as I'm driving.
• 1:29:28
  So you're
• 1:29:29
  everybody would, it would be Jetsons and fart noises.
• 1:29:33
  It'd be ridiculous.
• 1:29:34
  But see, instead I would be like.
• 1:29:36
  Give me the Pikes Peak Audi, you know, screaming dragon five
• 1:29:40
  cylinder sound on every car.
• 1:29:41
  It doesn't matter what it is.
• 1:29:41
  I'd be, I'd be happy with that, but you know, switching gears from rally into
• 1:29:47
  my second favorite discipline, IMSA WEC, Donovan, most people might not know that
• 1:29:52
  you're a BMW guy unless they listened to our episode together from last year.
• 1:29:57
  So there's BMW and LeMans.
• 1:30:00
  Yeah, thank goodness.
• 1:30:01
  They're coming back to prototypes in 2023.
• 1:30:04
  So to me, that's what makes prototype racing interesting.
• 1:30:07
  And, you know, it's, it's one of those years it looks like where Porsche will
• 1:30:11
  be back Audi, BMW, Ferrari, Acura will be there and it'll be fun to watch.
• 1:30:17
  Currently, you know, it's not so fun to watch because there's usually one
• 1:30:20
  manufacturer that takes the crown, but.
• 1:30:22
  Yeah.
• 1:30:23
  But yeah, I'm really excited that BMW is coming back, you know, while
• 1:30:25
  unfortunately I didn't get to see the V12 LMR race, you know, it'd
• 1:30:29
  be exciting to see these come back.
• 1:30:30
  So I know Eric, you can relate to this.
• 1:30:33
  I'm excited about the swag that will be available at
• 1:30:35
  these races that are BMW swag.
• 1:30:38
  So it's going to be amazing.
• 1:30:39
  It's right in line.
• 1:30:41
  With the announcements, everybody else has made.
• 1:30:43
  I'm waiting for Mercedes to come back.
• 1:30:44
  Like I need an LMDH version of the Sauber C11.
• 1:30:48
  I mean, something just earth shaking monstrosity from, from Mercedes, right.
• 1:30:53
  To come on board.
• 1:30:54
  And I'm sure that'll be next.
• 1:30:55
  Cause if the rest of the big players are coming, they got to come to
• 1:30:59
  be cool to see Bentley come back.
• 1:31:01
  But 2023.
• 1:31:02
  That's the hundredth anniversary of Le Mans.
• 1:31:04
  That's a big deal.
• 1:31:05
  And with all these manufacturers returning Le Mans, I think that's a good indication
• 1:31:10
  of where the future is for IMSA and WEC and, and prototype and grand touring
• 1:31:15
  racing and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:31:16
  And I'm really looking forward to that.
• 1:31:17
  We're making a.
• 1:31:18
  A large effort to go as a group to the 2023 Le Mans.
• 1:31:23
  So I'm with you.
• 1:31:24
  I'm bringing an extra suitcase so I can bring home a ton of swag.
• 1:31:27
  It's going to
• 1:31:27
  be awesome.
• 1:31:28
  Well, we'll have to make that Daytona trip too.
• 1:31:30
  That's their inaugural race.
• 1:31:31
  I didn't go this year, but I pretty much, I go regularly.
• 1:31:34
  So maybe that's a, that's a combo event.
• 1:31:36
  So since I got a little historical on you, I got to add a couple
• 1:31:39
  more bullet points to this.
• 1:31:40
  For those that don't know, there was a call.
• 1:31:43
  earlier last year for a spin off of Mythbusters to debut on
• 1:31:48
  Motor Trend and they're going to call it Motor Mythbusters.
• 1:31:51
  It's going to have the host from some other shows like All Girls
• 1:31:54
  Garage and some of the other programs that Motor Trend sponsors.
• 1:31:57
  And the idea is to pick up where Mythbusters left off, but it's all
• 1:32:01
  related to cars and trucks and kind of dispelling all of those myths.
• 1:32:04
  I'm excited to see that.
• 1:32:05
  I'm a little concerned that they're either going to be very patronizing with.
• 1:32:09
  Car guys, or they're going to get deep.
• 1:32:11
  So to me, you know, I'm, I'm con my concern, right?
• 1:32:14
  Is it's going to be, this is how an engine works.
• 1:32:16
  What I'd really like to see them do is let's get into some
• 1:32:19
  of the myths about cars, right?
• 1:32:21
  The nine, nine, six rear main seal, the IMS issue.
• 1:32:24
  Is that really an issue?
• 1:32:25
  Things like on the FAD.
• 1:32:27
  BMW, you know, there's the crank hub issue.
• 1:32:29
  That would be fantastic.
• 1:32:30
  I think if it's just, uh, this is, you know, you know, this is how many miles
• 1:32:34
  you can really get out of an engine.
• 1:32:35
  I think it's really going to be
• 1:32:36
  how much boost can you put through a motor before you blow a piston or whatever?
• 1:32:40
  Yeah.
• 1:32:40
  Yeah.
• 1:32:40
  Yeah.
• 1:32:41
  So maybe a little bit of both.
• 1:32:42
  I mean, but I guess on August 4th, we'll find out, right?
• 1:32:46
  So I'm kind of looking forward to that science fair project.
• 1:32:48
  I did enjoy Mythbusters.
• 1:32:49
  I thought it got a little long in the tooth though, but you know, putting
• 1:32:51
  a petrol head spin on it is pretty exciting, but talking about putting
• 1:32:55
  a petrol head spin on things, our favorite hamster, Richard Hammond from
• 1:33:01
  Top Gear and the Grand Tour is also slated for his own Rustoration show.
• 1:33:07
  On discovery plus and it's supposed to come out sometime
• 1:33:10
  this year, maybe next year.
• 1:33:11
  There's not a definitive date yet.
• 1:33:13
  I've kind of searched around on this and I've got some wishy washy answers,
• 1:33:16
  but it's set you not far from his house and he's going to be going
• 1:33:20
  through and basically restoring cars.
• 1:33:22
  So I'm really curious to see where that goes.
• 1:33:24
  I really enjoy Hammond.
• 1:33:26
  I mean, I've enjoyed the whole cast, but I think it will be cool because I think
• 1:33:29
  he has an interesting car collection.
• 1:33:31
  And if these cars are his, and he's not just taking a playbook out of, I'm going
• 1:33:35
  to buy a car and flip it like every other show that's on motor trend and,
• 1:33:39
  and discovery plus that are like that.
• 1:33:41
  I think it'll be a cool spin and it should be a lot of fun.
• 1:33:45
  I agree.
• 1:33:45
  And as far as the, uh, Richard Hammond show goes, have you
• 1:33:48
  watched Clarkson does the farming?
• 1:33:51
  Not yet.
• 1:33:51
  It's so good.
• 1:33:52
  It's typical Clarkson stuff, but it's really good.
• 1:33:54
  They did a special for charity years ago where all three of them,
• 1:33:58
  Clarkson, Hammond and may we're doing some landscaping, farming and
• 1:34:02
  tractor type stuff, and it just ended in chaos and calamity as always.
• 1:34:06
  So, I mean, knowing that Clarkson's doing a show, I mean, and it might be
• 1:34:10
  similar to that, I might actually tune in.
• 1:34:12
  So I got to check it out.
• 1:34:13
  It's really good.
• 1:34:14
  It's believable too.
• 1:34:15
  I know some of it's scripted, but for the most part, it's pretty good.
• 1:34:17
  On the other side of that, you know, and a little bit of sad news.
• 1:34:21
  Some of you may or may not be intimate with the long history of
• 1:34:25
  FIA and Formula One and whatever, but Max Mosley, the former president
• 1:34:29
  of the FIA, passed away this year.
• 1:34:33
  At 81 years old, he was the president of the FIA from 1993 to 2009.
• 1:34:39
  He carved out a successful career before going to FIA as
• 1:34:42
  a, as a lawyer, a barrister.
• 1:34:43
  He was an amateur racing driver and he was also the founder and
• 1:34:47
  co owner of March Engineering.
• 1:34:49
  So long, deep history in the motor sports world.
• 1:34:53
  We're sad to see him go, but yeah, Max Mosley passed this year.
• 1:34:57
  In other sad news.
• 1:34:59
  Not the saddest news we have to report, but I am a fan of the GR Yaris.
• 1:35:05
  I don't know why I've never driven one.
• 1:35:07
  Is that the garage ride edition?
• 1:35:09
  I would love to drive one.
• 1:35:11
  I mean, I like small cars.
• 1:35:13
  It's a small car, so it had me at small in a track day event in
• 1:35:18
  Estonia, poor little Toyota GR Yaris succumbed, I think to its injuries and
• 1:35:25
  there's one less in the world today.
• 1:35:28
  So the driver trying to push the car to its limit, I guess, you know,
• 1:35:32
  from the video footage of what seems to be like a still camera on the
• 1:35:35
  side of the track that was pointing at these two particular corners.
• 1:35:38
  It's coming around, make this left hand corner and it kind of comes through
• 1:35:42
  drifting and you see him coming through.
• 1:35:45
  He obviously tries to correct the cargo sideways, but then it snaps back and
• 1:35:51
  he shoots off the track to the right.
• 1:35:53
  Fortunately, or unfortunately in this case, unfortunately there was a sand trap.
• 1:35:57
  So when it went off track, hit into the sand trap, it barrel
• 1:36:02
  rolled, hit the roof four times, I counted, finally coming to a rest.
• 1:36:07
  Turtle side down.
• 1:36:08
  So on its four wheels, boom, there it rested.
• 1:36:12
  There were some not still shots, but just 360 video footage of it
• 1:36:16
  sitting out in that sand trap.
• 1:36:17
  And surprisingly, and I don't know how fast it was going, coming into
• 1:36:20
  this turn, but for a car that barrel rolled hitting its roof four times.
• 1:36:24
  It doesn't look that damaged.
• 1:36:27
  It was so collectible too.
• 1:36:28
  Just in that turn.
• 1:36:31
  He just
• 1:36:32
  overcompensated.
• 1:36:32
  Basically, he snapped it back the other way and shot off the track.
• 1:36:35
  But I'm impressed by the engineering.
• 1:36:38
  But I guess that's also cars these days are much
• 1:36:41
  I mean, just think, if he holds onto it for like 50 years, he can
• 1:36:44
  sell it for 122, 000 like that Jaguar that we talked about earlier.
• 1:36:49
  I mean,
• 1:36:49
  we're not having a roll cage inside and the roof didn't collapse in the passenger.
• 1:36:54
  That's
• 1:36:54
  really, really good.
• 1:36:55
  Actually.
• 1:36:55
  I mean, it looks like the
• 1:36:56
  headline, it looked like the headliner fell out, but it didn't
• 1:36:59
  look like the roof had caved in.
• 1:37:01
  So the passenger was probably fine.
• 1:37:03
  And even the body panels weren't all that banged up, not all the way around the car.
• 1:37:07
  So I'm really impressed actually with the structural rigidity of the overall
• 1:37:12
  still better looking than that Burton Docheveaux that we
• 1:37:14
  talked about a little as well.
• 1:37:15
  So it's winning.
• 1:37:16
  It's winning in a lot of categories.
• 1:37:18
  I'd give him 50 bucks for it.
• 1:37:19
  Now, the other cautionary tale here is if you find yourself in Estonia
• 1:37:23
  on a track day, please be wary because apparently there aren't
• 1:37:27
  flaggers out here because everyone just keeps going around the track.
• 1:37:31
  I mean,
• 1:37:31
  if it's anything like the crazy track days in Germany, the bigger
• 1:37:34
  question is Was he wearing a helmet?
• 1:37:36
  Was he wearing a helmet?
• 1:37:37
  Exactly.
• 1:37:37
  That was my first thought when I saw where this was located, because the cars just
• 1:37:40
  keep going around, I would have thought immediately red flag, everybody should
• 1:37:44
  be stopped, let the ambulance get out there to make sure this dude is alive.
• 1:37:47
  One guy did pull over and like drove off the track and started to get out of
• 1:37:51
  the car and then the video shuts off.
• 1:37:53
  I was like, dang,
• 1:37:54
  do yourself exactly.
• 1:37:57
  All right.
• 1:37:57
  And one final one, Tanya, I know that you follow the MotoGP discipline.
• 1:38:03
  What's going on?
• 1:38:03
  Yeah.
• 1:38:04
  So that is truly the saddest news out of all these reportings is a Swiss
• 1:38:09
  rider in Moto3, Jason DuPasquier.
• 1:38:12
  He had an accident at the Grand Prix in Mugello and unfortunately
• 1:38:17
  lost his life in that incident.
• 1:38:19
  At 19 years old, that's absolutely crazy.
• 1:38:22
  And, uh, it said he crashed at the turn that's called Arabiata.
• 1:38:26
  It's a, that's the double right hander at turn nine at the end of qualifying.
• 1:38:31
  And it was on his flying lap.
• 1:38:33
  And that translation means angry.
• 1:38:35
  Yes, it does.
• 1:38:35
  Yes, it does.
• 1:38:36
  So it's very sad to see that, uh, an aspiring motorcycle rider.
• 1:38:41
  Would have been really cool to see what he could have done, but, you know,
• 1:38:44
  unfortunately, sometimes the risk we take, even with the best safety gear
• 1:38:48
  that's out there and, and motorcycles and all sorts of racing are dangerous.
• 1:38:51
  So always use your better judgment, whether you're in a GR yards,
• 1:38:54
  a motorcycle or anything else.
• 1:38:56
  So always be on the side of safety, but now we'll switch
• 1:38:59
  into some quick local news.
• 1:39:01
  As we wrap up, I want to remind everybody about some upcoming events.
• 1:39:05
  Unfortunately, our tale of the dragon event.
• 1:39:07
  Has been canceled because as you know, Brad is not on this episode.
• 1:39:10
  He's not feeling too great.
• 1:39:12
  So we had to bag that, but we are on for our double header with auto
• 1:39:16
  interest at Nelson ledges and pit race over the next two weekends.
• 1:39:19
  So unfortunately we can't tell you all the awesome things about Nelson ledges
• 1:39:23
  until next month, it's going to be a first for a lot of us, although I have
• 1:39:26
  heard it is no longer like racing on the surface of the moon, it's a newly
• 1:39:31
  reopened in the last couple of years.
• 1:39:32
  Unfortunately, Kind of, you know, redebuted in the middle of COVID,
• 1:39:35
  but it's been freshly paved.
• 1:39:37
  I've been watching a lot of videos of it.
• 1:39:38
  It has touted to always have had the fastest average lap speed of
• 1:39:44
  any track East of the Mississippi.
• 1:39:46
  So I'm really excited to try out Nelson ledges and I'm
• 1:39:48
  always happy to go to pit race.
• 1:39:50
  We are at pit race celebrating the 4th of July this year, and we are
• 1:39:54
  also hosting a carding showdown.
• 1:39:56
  So if there's anybody out there from AI or even from GTM that has nothing
• 1:40:00
  to do over the 4th of July, we can.
• 1:40:02
  Please come join us for the pit race carding showdown on July 3rd.
• 1:40:06
  You can register for that on our store site, schwag S C
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  H W A G dot GT motorsports.
• 1:40:13
  org.
• 1:40:13
  So we still have open spots available for that.
• 1:40:16
  In addition, summer bash.
• 1:40:18
  is returning to summit point this year.
• 1:40:21
  It's bigger, badder and better than ever.
• 1:40:24
  Four days at summit point over three tracks.
• 1:40:27
  We are also hosting our 2021 fundraising campaign in conjunction
• 1:40:32
  with the American Cancer Society.
• 1:40:34
  Details for that are on our website.
• 1:40:36
  We are looking to raise 7, 000 for ACS.
• 1:40:39
  We are about 2, 500 in right now, if you're listening to this and
• 1:40:44
  we're looking for your support.
• 1:40:45
  You know, no obligation, but we do thank everyone that can help contribute.
• 1:40:49
  All proceeds go to the ACS.
• 1:40:52
  It's going to be a track walk and run, which is a first for summit point.
• 1:40:56
  So if you can join us on July 31st at summit point, that's going to be awesome.
• 1:41:00
  All the details are on our website.
• 1:41:02
  We also have our cannonball run where we expect to see Donovan on
• 1:41:06
  track with us from garage riot, along with Some other folks at Carolina
• 1:41:10
  Motorsports Park in conjunction with our friends at Just Track It.
• 1:41:14
  That's going to be over the August 7, 8, 9 weekend.
• 1:41:17
  So if you want more details about that particular event, visit JustTrackIt.
• 1:41:21
  net.
• 1:41:21
  I will say it's a really great affordable weekend and an awesome facility there.
• 1:41:26
  We got a bunch of folks that live down in that area that are familiar with
• 1:41:29
  that track where I also heard rumor that Dave Peters from HPDE Junkie is
• 1:41:33
  going to come out and join us for that.
• 1:41:34
  So if you want to meet some of the crew from GTM.
• 1:41:38
  HPD junkie.
• 1:41:39
  Come on out to Carolina Motorsport Park in August.
• 1:41:42
  So I'll save you the report from HPD junkie this month, because you should
• 1:41:47
  come out and meet Dave and talk to him.
• 1:41:48
  And I'll tell you all about it while we're there at CMP.
• 1:41:51
  There are still tons of events on the calendar.
• 1:41:53
  I mean, Hundreds day in and day out weekdays, there's events coming up.
• 1:41:59
  You know, I just heard from hooked on driving.
• 1:42:00
  They're doing event in August for advanced drivers and coaches at Watkins gun.
• 1:42:04
  I believe that's August like 11th and 12th, a bunch of other stuff just
• 1:42:08
  going on here in the motor sports world, especially in circuit racing.
• 1:42:11
  But that's to include drag racing, dirt track.
• 1:42:13
  I mean, the tracks are open again.
• 1:42:14
  So get out there.
• 1:42:15
  There's monster trucks coming to the DMV soon.
• 1:42:18
  And then JMP and places like that.
• 1:42:20
  And we're really looking forward to getting out there
• 1:42:22
  and being part of those events.
• 1:42:24
  And in case you missed out, check out the other podcast episodes
• 1:42:27
  that aired earlier this month.
• 1:42:29
  We had an action packed June where we went trackside with Zachary Schnitta
• 1:42:32
  and the team from Ginger Man Raceway to celebrate their 25th anniversary.
• 1:42:37
  We took a trip down Mulholland Drive and caught up with Paul Wilamowski and
• 1:42:40
  learned all about West Coast car culture and his shift from New York City life.
• 1:42:44
  We also had a special Patreon re release of Donovan's Pit Stop episode where he
• 1:42:49
  discusses his barn find C2 Corvette.
• 1:42:52
  And we created a sequel that's not a sequel by revisiting our 50th episode
• 1:42:57
  with our friends from take two podcast in our first ever crossover episode.
• 1:43:02
  And finally, we can't wait to get back on track with Nabil and the team at Just
• 1:43:06
  Track It for our cannonball to Carolina motor sports park later this summer.
• 1:43:10
  So learn all about their program in the Just Track It episode.
• 1:43:13
  Thank you to everyone that came on the show and please look forward to
• 1:43:16
  more great episodes in season two.
• 1:43:18
  Now I got a wot wot moment here.
• 1:43:21
  All right.
• 1:43:21
  We've been tracking hard over the last year of this show, collecting, you
• 1:43:26
  know, Patreon supporters along the way.
• 1:43:28
  And I can't say thank you enough to all those folks, our devoted listeners, our
• 1:43:32
  supporters, our families, all of them.
• 1:43:34
  We got no Patreon signups this month.
• 1:43:37
  So what's going on June?
• 1:43:39
  We're going to look forward to July.
• 1:43:40
  You can check it all out at patreon.
• 1:43:42
  com forward slash GT motor sports, tons of behind the scenes content, just like
• 1:43:47
  the recording of this episode with Donovan and other special exclusive content on
• 1:43:51
  their early access to episodes, other types of swag, all available on Patrion,
• 1:43:56
  think about porting GTM and everything we do, you know, all the money goes to.
• 1:43:59
  Keeping the lights on around here, you know, feeding our writers, our
• 1:44:02
  developers, our casters, all of that.
• 1:44:04
  So every little bit helps.
• 1:44:05
  And we appreciate all the contributions on Patreon.
• 1:44:09
  So Donovan, do you want to do a little shout out?
• 1:44:14
  Yeah, I'll shout out to myself.
• 1:44:15
  No, no.
• 1:44:16
  I want to shout out to Brad.
• 1:44:17
  Thanks for letting me sit in.
• 1:44:18
  I hope you feel better.
• 1:44:19
  Uh, I left your dressing room intact.
• 1:44:21
  Blow up dolls are still where they were.
• 1:44:23
  Thanks to you guys for having me on.
• 1:44:24
  And, uh, you know, if, if you guys, uh, want to venture over to garage, right.
• 1:44:28
  com and check us out, we'd love to have you.
• 1:44:30
  Absolutely.
• 1:44:30
  And do you have any upcoming events that you want to share or any ones
• 1:44:33
  that you've covered in this season that people might not know about?
• 1:44:36
  We were at Amelia Island.
• 1:44:37
  We talked about earlier, there's some photos of that event.
• 1:44:40
  They're trying to get around to some of the local events.
• 1:44:43
  We had a Y2K event recently with 80s, 90s and 2K cars, which was pretty cool.
• 1:44:48
  And then throughout the summer, we're, uh, participants, uh, or sponsors of various,
• 1:44:52
  uh, events throughout the Southeast.
• 1:44:53
  So come say hello if you're out there and see us and, uh, otherwise we'll see
• 1:44:57
  Absolutely.
• 1:44:58
  And just as a reminder for folks That may be hearing about garage riot for the
• 1:45:02
  first time and haven't listened to the episode that we did with you last year.
• 1:45:05
  Is there a cost?
• 1:45:06
  How do they sign up?
• 1:45:07
  You know, those quick things that they may want to know.
• 1:45:09
  Yeah, totally free.
• 1:45:10
  Uh, you know, we, we put together an environment for, you know, car people
• 1:45:14
  to get together and talk without.
• 1:45:15
  Politics and the grumpy old man, uh, telling you, you know, this,
• 1:45:19
  that, and the other, you know, car, just car, just car people.
• 1:45:22
  That's all we are.
• 1:45:22
  So you cut through the BS and, uh, you know, no matter what, uh, walk of life
• 1:45:26
  you are or whether you're interested in European or domestic or JDM or
• 1:45:31
  something else, Ladas, maybe, yeah.
• 1:45:33
  Get online and talk to us.
• 1:45:35
  We'll have you on there.
• 1:45:35
  Absolutely.
• 1:45:36
  And, you know, now being on the platform with you guys over a year and interacting
• 1:45:40
  with the Garage Riot crew and getting to meet some of the people and having them
• 1:45:42
  come over to our VRL and things like that.
• 1:45:45
  It's been an awesome experience.
• 1:45:46
  I love it.
• 1:45:47
  It's very inviting.
• 1:45:48
  You know, it's very petrol head focus, which is awesome.
• 1:45:50
  And to your point cuts out the BS and it's continuing to evolve, right?
• 1:45:54
  You guys are awesome and taking, you know, criticism and fixing the
• 1:45:56
  platform and adding new features.
• 1:45:58
  And there's been some great feedback.
• 1:45:59
  Good things that have come out over the year.
• 1:46:00
  And I'm looking forward to seeing what next year looks
• 1:46:02
  like right on the top of that.
• 1:46:03
  So thank you again for supporting us and working with us and being a partner.
• 1:46:07
  And it's been fantastic having you on the show.
• 1:46:09
  Yeah, vice versa.
• 1:46:10
  It's great to have you guys involved.
• 1:46:11
  And we look forward to seeing you guys here at CMP soon.
• 1:46:14
  Absolutely.
• 1:46:15
  And you know, We would be remiss if we didn't thank our executive producer,
• 1:46:22
  Tanya, our co host, who's that?
• 1:46:24
  That's you.
• 1:46:25
  That's who it
• 1:46:26
  is.
• 1:46:26
  You
• 1:46:26
  know, she puts in a lot of time, a lot of effort, hours into organizing
• 1:46:30
  this stuff, going through, you know, fact checks and some things,
• 1:46:33
  keeping the rest of us honest.
• 1:46:34
  Honest and putting together, you know, the drive through it.
• 1:46:37
  She really owns this part of our larger podcast series.
• 1:46:40
  And for those that may be listening to this episode for the first time,
• 1:46:44
  next month is actually quite special.
• 1:46:47
  It is the first anniversary of our first drive through.
• 1:46:51
  So look for some special stuff next month as we put that together.
• 1:46:55
  And I hope all of you enjoyed the episode and we'll look to Catch up with you
• 1:47:01
  soon.
• 1:47:04
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• 1:47:28
  you've heard and want to learn more about GTM, be sure to check us out on www.
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• 1:47:35
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• 1:47:38
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• 1:47:50
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• 1:47:52
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• 1:47:55
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