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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, July 30 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

0:03
Speaker 1: It is Thursday, July. This is Jaguar's happy hour. And
0:11
Speaker 1: now a guy who treats adversity like a piece of
0:14
Speaker 1: meat Jane Peace Shadrick. Uh is it medium? Rare? I
0:22
Speaker 1: don't know. Welcome it Jaguar's happy hour. J P. Shadrick
0:26
Speaker 1: from a home studio. Jeff Logaman from his home studio.
0:32
Speaker 1: And with the power of technology, Jeff, you and I
0:35
Speaker 1: can actually look each at each other over a video screen.
0:39
Speaker 1: We're taking steps towards the season. What's up, lives? How
0:41
Speaker 1: are you? It's kind of odd. I mean, here we are,
0:46
Speaker 1: the end of July and me and you were having
0:48
Speaker 1: this conversation a minute ago. Does it really feel like
0:50
Speaker 1: football season? Doesn't feel like it's it's time to have
0:54
Speaker 1: a mini camp? You know, I mean that's right now.
0:58
Speaker 1: It is weird. I mean, obviously, it's been a year
1:01
Speaker 1: like nothing else. And and typically you have so much
1:04
Speaker 1: build up to the season to where you have, you know,
1:07
Speaker 1: after the draft and free agency, then you have many
1:10
Speaker 1: camps and voluntary workouts and then the players report, and
1:14
Speaker 1: then when they report, there's cameras and fanfare and everything else. Well,
1:18
Speaker 1: you kind of missed a big block of that. So
1:21
Speaker 1: it almost feels like, you know, we're missing something, but
1:24
Speaker 1: but here we are. And uh, it's a different year certainly,
1:28
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a different year in a
1:29
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. Well here from Doug Maron of course,
1:32
Speaker 1: in this show recap his media availability. It was earlier
1:36
Speaker 1: today the Doug Maroon Show coming up at five o'clock
1:38
Speaker 1: today as well, so we'll hear straight from the head coach,
1:40
Speaker 1: and he touched on this a little bit today. Two
1:42
Speaker 1: logs is, you know, it doesn't feel like preseason. It
1:45
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like any of that right now because there's
1:48
Speaker 1: this ramp up time and then there's not a game
1:50
Speaker 1: in two weeks, and so it's a totally different, almost
1:54
Speaker 1: a collegiate type feel. And for Doug, he's been through
1:57
Speaker 1: this on the college side before, where there's no freecy
2:00
Speaker 1: eas and games, you got to figure out your roster
2:02
Speaker 1: and you're too deep at that point. Obviously, it's a
2:05
Speaker 1: different world here in the NFL. But he can refer
2:07
Speaker 1: to some notes from the past, which is a good
2:09
Speaker 1: thing for Doug. Yeah, but what notes are you referring
2:13
Speaker 1: to when you're talking about managing a roster when you
2:16
Speaker 1: have COVID nineteen affecting your entire roster and the way
2:19
Speaker 1: you do business. I mean, look, there's nothing that you
2:22
Speaker 1: can pull from your history that's gonna help you handle
2:24
Speaker 1: this other than you have to sit there and try
2:27
Speaker 1: to figure out every conceivable, every conceivable possibility that could
2:32
Speaker 1: happen to your roster. And this year is very unique
2:36
Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. And that, first of all,
2:39
Speaker 1: will the season happen without any kind of interruption? I
2:42
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be very interesting to see if it
2:44
Speaker 1: can happen. Number two is that now you have coaches
2:48
Speaker 1: and general managers that are having to manage a completely
2:51
Speaker 1: different thing than just the x is and the ohs
2:54
Speaker 1: and the Jimmy's and the jos. I mean, now you're
2:56
Speaker 1: talking about managing any roster in case, all sudden you
3:00
Speaker 1: have an outbreak of COVID nineteen on your football team.
3:03
Speaker 1: So now you have to make the decisions. How do
3:05
Speaker 1: we handle our day to day business. How do we
3:07
Speaker 1: conduct practice, How do we conduct meals, How do we
3:11
Speaker 1: conduct meetings? How do we conduct practice? Do we isolate
3:15
Speaker 1: a quarterback just in case we have a quarterback room
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Speaker 1: that comes down with COVID? I mean there's so many
3:20
Speaker 1: different decisions, and there's no roadmap that you can refer
3:23
Speaker 1: back to to figure out what's the best way to
3:24
Speaker 1: go about it. But I will say this, the football
3:27
Speaker 1: teams in the National Football League that are the best
3:30
Speaker 1: managed are going to be the most successful in a
3:33
Speaker 1: year like this. Here's what's coming up with the program today.
3:37
Speaker 1: We'll recap that Doug Moron media availability, players reporting to
3:41
Speaker 1: camp at least for testing. The veterans are not in
3:44
Speaker 1: the building yet. The rookies are, though the ones who
3:46
Speaker 1: have passed three COVID nineteen tests are allowed in the
3:51
Speaker 1: next steps moving ahead over the next week's we'll discuss that.
3:54
Speaker 1: Senior writer John O's your schedule to join us as well,
3:57
Speaker 1: and about fifteen minutes will recap Doug Moron's press conference today.
4:00
Speaker 1: Let's hear from the head coach logs. How about it?
4:03
Speaker 1: You know, and you just touched on this, how different
4:07
Speaker 1: the environment is? What is a normal day like? And
4:11
Speaker 1: how does a normal day change? For head coach Doug Burrow.
4:15
Speaker 1: There there are so many changes the rock that has
4:17
Speaker 1: taken place as far as just your normal day, I
4:20
Speaker 1: mean normal is out of the really really out of
4:23
Speaker 1: the picture, you know, of the things that we're doing,
4:27
Speaker 1: um as far as you know, coming in with the
4:28
Speaker 1: testing procedures. UM. You know, arrows on the hallway, signs
4:32
Speaker 1: on the hallway, UM, you know, split locker rooms, split
4:37
Speaker 1: you know, weight rooms, different different areas, you know, just
4:40
Speaker 1: to create that space. Now logs. I have not been
4:44
Speaker 1: in the building, at least in the Jaguars part of
4:46
Speaker 1: the building since March nineteen, so I haven't seen these
4:51
Speaker 1: arrows and all these hallways. But it makes a lot
4:54
Speaker 1: of sense. They have to do everything to the book,
4:56
Speaker 1: and the book is big of what the league and
4:58
Speaker 1: everybody's put together try to to make this social distancing possible.
5:03
Speaker 1: In an NFL locker room, it's tough to do with
5:05
Speaker 1: ninety guys around there. Well, well it is. Unfortunately, the
5:08
Speaker 1: Jaguars have a facility that is the NFL Stadium, which
5:12
Speaker 1: has multiple locker rooms, that has a lot of room
5:15
Speaker 1: really to handle this type of situation. There's a lot
5:18
Speaker 1: of football teams that don't have the upgraded facility, that
5:22
Speaker 1: don't have the ability to say, hey, you know what,
5:24
Speaker 1: let's go use the South locker room, and hey, guess what,
5:26
Speaker 1: let's go use the locker room, the new locker room
5:29
Speaker 1: that they built on the other side of the stadium.
5:30
Speaker 1: So the Jaguars are fortunate in a lot of different
5:33
Speaker 1: ways because of the facility that they are within, and
5:36
Speaker 1: also they have the ability to go outside and utilize
5:39
Speaker 1: the stadium seating area that's got a capacity of sixty
5:42
Speaker 1: five plus thousand seats, and so you've got a lot
5:45
Speaker 1: of flexibility there to where you can actually have a
5:47
Speaker 1: meeting and still be able to abide by all the
5:51
Speaker 1: different social distancing aspects of the requirements of the league.
5:54
Speaker 1: Now you said you haven't seen all these things in
5:56
Speaker 1: the hallway, JP, Just imagine what it's like at the
5:58
Speaker 1: grocery store. You got one way signs, right, I mean,
6:01
Speaker 1: going down aisles and then when you get to the
6:02
Speaker 1: cash register and says stand here, staying here, staying here.
6:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's any different for the
6:08
Speaker 1: NFL teams right now to where they have a lot
6:10
Speaker 1: of guidelines just like that in place for them. Interesting stuff,
6:15
Speaker 1: and you know, but everybody has to follow it to
6:18
Speaker 1: a t. And that's this is a discussion we'll have
6:20
Speaker 1: a little later too. That's inside the building. You can
6:23
Speaker 1: control inside the building. The real question will be when
6:27
Speaker 1: guys leave the building. Go home. That's really when this
6:31
Speaker 1: thing will will turn one way or the other. He'll
6:34
Speaker 1: see he again from Doug Broone. No preseason games this year,
6:38
Speaker 1: that's the big change. The players Association and the league
6:41
Speaker 1: came together on that. So how does that change his
6:44
Speaker 1: preparation leading into the regular season. When I knew there
6:49
Speaker 1: was talk about you know, um possibly not playing preceding games,
6:53
Speaker 1: I wind up breaking out you know, the stuff that
6:55
Speaker 1: I did in college and looked at it kind of
6:57
Speaker 1: reminded myself of you know how, you know, how I've
7:00
Speaker 1: done it, you know, personally before, and then you know,
7:03
Speaker 1: I think it's for me, it's it's it's very easy
7:05
Speaker 1: to manage, you know, and getting those situations, getting you know,
7:08
Speaker 1: that type of experience, getting that type of you know,
7:13
Speaker 1: live action, let's say, for lack of a better word,
7:16
Speaker 1: Um So I think I'm I feel very comfortable as
7:19
Speaker 1: far as that part. Look, how difficult is this, at
7:24
Speaker 1: least from the organizational perspective to evaluate talent on the team.
7:29
Speaker 1: We'll hear from the players side in a moment, But
7:31
Speaker 1: in terms of selecting guys on this roster, how difficult
7:35
Speaker 1: is it to to see anything when you can't play games. Well,
7:39
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that Doug says that, hey, look,
7:41
Speaker 1: he's very comfortable with what what he's gonna be able
7:44
Speaker 1: to do. I had a hard time understanding how comfortable
7:47
Speaker 1: he is. I think he's just saying that because he
7:50
Speaker 1: doesn't want his team to realize that this is very different,
7:54
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want them to think that this is
7:56
Speaker 1: anything but the best way for any but any football team.
7:59
Speaker 1: I think the reality is that, look, if you knew
8:01
Speaker 1: you weren't going to have preseason games, fine, now we
8:05
Speaker 1: can go ahead and we can ramp up the practices.
8:07
Speaker 1: We can go to semi live contact and practice. But
8:11
Speaker 1: here's the reality. You have this whole ramp up period
8:14
Speaker 1: that's taken away from the total amount of time that
8:16
Speaker 1: you have the players on the field four and the
8:18
Speaker 1: amount of padded practices that you're gonna have. So here's
8:21
Speaker 1: the thing. How are you going to find a replacement
8:24
Speaker 1: for four games? You can't. You can't. So you're gonna
8:28
Speaker 1: have to make a lot of personnel decisions about your
8:31
Speaker 1: football team based on faith. I mean, that's the reality,
8:35
Speaker 1: and based on very little sample size of what you
8:39
Speaker 1: have from the players on your roster. That's the reality,
8:42
Speaker 1: and that's certainly a big change from in years past.
8:45
Speaker 1: And there's been a lot of talk about how the
8:48
Speaker 1: undrafted guys in NFL history have had that opportunity and
8:52
Speaker 1: in the preseason has afforded them that opportunity of getting
8:56
Speaker 1: more exposure. I don't think there's any doubt that that's
8:59
Speaker 1: a reality. There's gonna be a lot of players that
9:01
Speaker 1: slipped through the cracks. But the one thing that you
9:04
Speaker 1: do have this year is that you do have the
9:06
Speaker 1: expanded roster with the practice squad, and I think that
9:08
Speaker 1: will help a little bit. Now, it may it may
9:11
Speaker 1: take some time to unearth some of those gems, but
9:14
Speaker 1: I think you'll still be able to find them because
9:17
Speaker 1: of the practice squad and a little bit of expanded
9:19
Speaker 1: roster there. In also because if you've got a guy
9:22
Speaker 1: that goes on the COVID nineteen list, okay, you can
9:24
Speaker 1: replace them on the active roster and still have a
9:26
Speaker 1: guy on the practice squad. For this organization, it might
9:30
Speaker 1: be a little more challenging than most of very young
9:32
Speaker 1: team twelve draft picks eighteen undrafted players currently on the roster,
9:37
Speaker 1: and for Doug Morone, as you just touched on logs,
9:40
Speaker 1: Doug today earlier knows the challenge for young players to
9:44
Speaker 1: make not just this team, but any team this year.
9:47
Speaker 1: This is probably, um, probably gonna be one of the
9:51
Speaker 1: more challenging times for a young player, uh, to make
9:54
Speaker 1: a football team. You know, one is because of opportunities.
9:58
Speaker 1: The other is gonna be you know, a young football player,
10:02
Speaker 1: um that may you know, you may have some better
10:04
Speaker 1: players ahead of him, but not be able to play
10:08
Speaker 1: preseason games, to get on film to you know, maybe
10:10
Speaker 1: get picked up by another team. Yeah, it changes everything.
10:15
Speaker 1: We've just touched on it. The addition of some spots
10:18
Speaker 1: in the practice squad helps you a little bit in
10:21
Speaker 1: this case. But man, this is not ideal. It's certainly
10:25
Speaker 1: not ideal for anybody in the league. And if you're
10:27
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie that's on the bubble to begin with
10:30
Speaker 1: before games start, then you may not even make it
10:34
Speaker 1: to the cutdown in weeks. Look when you're when you're
10:37
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie, you're already on the bubble. I mean
10:40
Speaker 1: you're not gonna you know, maybe be on the bubble.
10:42
Speaker 1: You are on the bubble bubble when you walk in
10:44
Speaker 1: the door. And the reality is this jiguars football team
10:47
Speaker 1: is incredibly young, and they're going to be evaluating a
10:51
Speaker 1: lot of incredibly young players, and I think it would
10:55
Speaker 1: make a big difference if you're talking about a veteran
10:57
Speaker 1: football team like the Kansas City They've got veterans across
11:01
Speaker 1: the board, but you're talking about a totally different animal
11:04
Speaker 1: with his Jaguars football team, and other teams that are
11:07
Speaker 1: very similar to the Jaguars that are in a rebuilding
11:09
Speaker 1: mode and they have committed to youth, You're gonna make
11:11
Speaker 1: a lot of decisions based on very little sample side.
11:14
Speaker 1: I think the teams that are going to be more
11:16
Speaker 1: set up I think for this year to have success
11:19
Speaker 1: or one that have had stability within the organization and
11:23
Speaker 1: have a veteran presence in their locker room, the guys
11:26
Speaker 1: that have been there and done that. When you have
11:28
Speaker 1: a roster that there's a lot of guys that haven't
11:30
Speaker 1: been there and done that, a lot of decisions are
11:33
Speaker 1: gonna have to be made based on faith, and a
11:35
Speaker 1: lot of those decisions aren't going to be the right
11:37
Speaker 1: ones just because you don't have enough evidence or visual
11:42
Speaker 1: evidence to confirm or deny whatever you are expecting to
11:46
Speaker 1: see how a certain player so that's just the reality
11:49
Speaker 1: with young teams. You're gonna make you You're gonna make mistakes,
11:52
Speaker 1: especially in a year like this year. The full conversation
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Speaker 1: don't see a gun case behind you, John, what's up? Oh? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: still trying to figure out this, uh eight months into
17:02
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Speaker 1: you know. By the way, before we get into the
17:17
Speaker 1: jaguar stuff, there's a little breaking news in college football.
17:21
Speaker 1: The Ross Ellinger from Sports Illustrated is just sweeted and
17:25
Speaker 1: said that Southeastern Conference presidents have adopted a plan to
17:28
Speaker 1: play a ten game conference only scheduled this fall. The
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Speaker 1: kickoff date would be September. The SEC championship game would
17:36
Speaker 1: be December nineteen. That just came down during the commercial
17:39
Speaker 1: time out, So that's one sport off to the side,
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Speaker 1: you know. And John, we talked about this a little
17:45
Speaker 1: bit this morning. The way different sports are handling this pandemic. Um,
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Speaker 1: NBA has the bubble, NHL has two different bubbles. Uh, NFL,
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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball do not college football as of right now.
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Speaker 1: It's they're trying to fig was gonna play or not
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Speaker 1: some of these leagues. Um, you know, the the that's
18:06
Speaker 1: the challenge of this NFL thing, that the amount of
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Speaker 1: people involved in the amount of people coming and going
18:10
Speaker 1: from buildings. John is tough. Yeah, I'd probably be more
18:14
Speaker 1: curious Jeff as a former player, uh, how he would
18:19
Speaker 1: feel about just the logistics of it, because he's been
18:22
Speaker 1: more inside of it than I have since life. You know,
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Speaker 1: haven't been around the league for twenty five years. The
18:28
Speaker 1: thought of trying to get like during training camp, you've
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Speaker 1: got a hundred and fifty semi people that you are
18:33
Speaker 1: trying to move around, and it's probably you know, you're
18:39
Speaker 1: the best correlation is trying to it is the military correlation.
18:43
Speaker 1: You're trying to move people impacts and they're trying to
18:47
Speaker 1: do with social distance. But there's just so many people
18:50
Speaker 1: that you've got to get involved with it, you know.
18:53
Speaker 1: I get when fans who are outside of it say, well,
18:55
Speaker 1: they should just do the bubble, because that's the best
18:58
Speaker 1: way to do it. Look at baseball, look at basketball.
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Speaker 1: But with those sports, you're talking about short periods of
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Speaker 1: time comparatively, maybe four or five weeks for most teams, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: to try to do it over a five month period
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Speaker 1: with the logistics of the NFL, I get that, maybe
19:16
Speaker 1: you could try it, but it just seems like a
19:18
Speaker 1: Garganelan lift. Well, it's a it's a Gargangelan task, and
19:23
Speaker 1: on top of that, you can control them, you know,
19:26
Speaker 1: while they're in your little bubble. But then once you
19:29
Speaker 1: get done with that little bubble at five o'clock during
19:31
Speaker 1: the regular season, everybody's going their different ways, you know,
19:34
Speaker 1: So how do you factor that into the equation because
19:38
Speaker 1: that becomes a whole another task to try to manage
19:41
Speaker 1: that you can't manage. And uh so, I think it's
19:45
Speaker 1: gonna be an incredibly challenging year. You look at what
19:48
Speaker 1: happened with the Miami Marlins this week and then also
19:51
Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Phillies, and I know Joe, our producer,
19:54
Speaker 1: is probably sitting there going yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. But
19:58
Speaker 1: when they had the outbreak coming all of a sudden,
20:00
Speaker 1: I mean, Marlins are shut down. Well, and in baseball,
20:02
Speaker 1: if you get shut down for a little bit, you
20:04
Speaker 1: can't make it up somewhere along the way and play
20:06
Speaker 1: a double or a triple header somewhere. Look, in football,
20:09
Speaker 1: you can't do that. I mean, you can't say, Okay,
20:12
Speaker 1: well we gotta cancel this weekend's game. We'll make that
20:14
Speaker 1: game up next Wednesday, and then we'll go ahead and
20:17
Speaker 1: play the following Sunday. Doesn't work that way. So incredibly
20:20
Speaker 1: challenge challenging a year for the NFL. Hey, John, Obviously,
20:26
Speaker 1: Doug Marone spoke earlier today. That's you, John, Yes, um.
20:29
Speaker 1: It was his first media availability of the preseason training
20:33
Speaker 1: camp leading up ramp up period whatever we're officially calling
20:36
Speaker 1: this time period right now, we'll call it the ramp
20:39
Speaker 1: up period. First time we've heard from him. Uh and
20:42
Speaker 1: and long as you and I were talking about it earlier, John,
20:44
Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on this too. Doesn't really feel
20:48
Speaker 1: like football yet. Today might have been the first time,
20:51
Speaker 1: but just seeing Doug on a on a computer screen
20:55
Speaker 1: makes it kind of feel Oh, we're still in the
20:58
Speaker 1: offseason program a little bits. It's an odd feeling. Yeah,
21:02
Speaker 1: I sort of realized today, and I guess and I
21:04
Speaker 1: thought about it more I realized before. To me, it
21:07
Speaker 1: doesn't really feel like football until your shirts wet after practice,
21:13
Speaker 1: until you're just standing out there and you're soaking through
21:16
Speaker 1: and I'm walking up to Jeff and we're both kind
21:18
Speaker 1: of looking at each other and go, hey, here we
21:20
Speaker 1: go again. Yeah, that's really the first day that it's
21:22
Speaker 1: gonna feel real when we're on the field and camp. Frankly,
21:26
Speaker 1: because when you've been around it as long as I haven't,
21:29
Speaker 1: as long as Jeff has a more intimate capacity, your
21:33
Speaker 1: body clock tells you that right now it's time to
21:36
Speaker 1: walk out on that field and have my goofy hat
21:39
Speaker 1: on and be doing that. So I don't think you'll
21:41
Speaker 1: really feel it until that happens. But Jeff, I've looked
21:44
Speaker 1: at this all along, saying this is a combination of O,
21:48
Speaker 1: T A S for two weeks and then all of
21:51
Speaker 1: a sudden, bam, you're into training camp. So I do
21:53
Speaker 1: think we'll feel it in what two and a half
21:55
Speaker 1: three weeks on August seventeen. Well maybe, And I can
21:59
Speaker 1: tell you another reason why it doesn't feel like training
22:02
Speaker 1: camp or feel like the season approach. And I'm looking
22:04
Speaker 1: to John Osha with a beer, I mean, what the
22:07
Speaker 1: hell is going on? I mean, did did me and
22:12
Speaker 1: you and Doug Ron all kind of coordinate our facial
22:15
Speaker 1: growth or what in the all season? But if you're
22:17
Speaker 1: the beard of your question you, I'll never match you.
22:23
Speaker 1: This is just my little effort. I like it. I
22:26
Speaker 1: like it, But I mean JP and I were talking earlier, John,
22:29
Speaker 1: and you know, you always have that build up to
22:31
Speaker 1: a season, you know, after the draft, and then you
22:34
Speaker 1: have the mandatory mini camp and you have O. T
22:37
Speaker 1: A S. And when the guys report. You know, there's
22:40
Speaker 1: all these steps that get you to where you're gonna
22:44
Speaker 1: be at and where we're at now, but we've we've
22:47
Speaker 1: missed all those steps, and then we're gonna be missing
22:49
Speaker 1: more steps, you know, those steps of having media coverage
22:53
Speaker 1: of practice for two weeks and then all of a sudden,
22:56
Speaker 1: maybe even have a scrimmage mixed in there, or inter
22:58
Speaker 1: squad practice with another football team that's not happening. Preseason
23:02
Speaker 1: games not happening. So when when you don't have all
23:07
Speaker 1: the build up, my question is where will the interest
23:12
Speaker 1: in the NFL be this year, because you're missing a
23:15
Speaker 1: lot of that build up to a season that typically
23:18
Speaker 1: you have. And and I don't want to compare this
23:21
Speaker 1: to a rating system, but but I would just throw
23:24
Speaker 1: this out there. You know, in television, they have ratings
23:26
Speaker 1: for television shows, and and if you have a time slot,
23:29
Speaker 1: you love to have a great what they call lead in,
23:31
Speaker 1: which means you don't like to have something with strong
23:33
Speaker 1: numbers going into your show or into your time slot.
23:36
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of like the build up of an
23:38
Speaker 1: NFL season, and all of that is going to be missing.
23:41
Speaker 1: So will you lose some fans because of that? Or
23:45
Speaker 1: will you gain more just because people are looking for
23:48
Speaker 1: an outlet to just to just not think about everything
23:52
Speaker 1: that's going on in the world today and just want
23:55
Speaker 1: to watch sports and want to watch competition. And my
23:59
Speaker 1: guess is it's I think you're gonna lose some because
24:03
Speaker 1: of what you said, because there's so many people thinking
24:05
Speaker 1: about other things right now, concerned about other things. But
24:08
Speaker 1: I do think I think the NBA will see it.
24:10
Speaker 1: I think Baseball is seeing it a little bit. I've
24:13
Speaker 1: talked to people in the Ozone mailbag who said they're
24:16
Speaker 1: watching baseball for the first time in a long time
24:19
Speaker 1: out of something to watch well as popular as the
24:21
Speaker 1: NFL as, I can't believe they won't have that bump.
24:24
Speaker 1: Will it be an overall bump? I don't know, but
24:27
Speaker 1: I would expect that first week of the regular season,
24:29
Speaker 1: as hungry as people have been for this UH, to
24:33
Speaker 1: be very well watched. Jeff, My question is, and you,
24:36
Speaker 1: as a former player, I've often ask you things along
24:38
Speaker 1: these lines, where do you think that we're going to
24:42
Speaker 1: see the biggest evidence that there was no offseason, that
24:47
Speaker 1: there was no training and then we're no preseason games.
24:50
Speaker 1: Are we making that up or will we see something
24:52
Speaker 1: tangible to be evidence of that. I think it's gonna
24:55
Speaker 1: be hard to an untrained I to say, oh boy,
24:58
Speaker 1: you can really tell that they didn't have all I
25:00
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a lot of inefficiencies with both
25:03
Speaker 1: offenses and defenses. But here's a reality when everybody is
25:07
Speaker 1: on the same playing field, so and everybody's had the
25:10
Speaker 1: same all season to deal with They've had the same
25:12
Speaker 1: I'm in a preseason, they've had the same limited number
25:15
Speaker 1: of practices. It's gonna be very hard to see. Now,
25:18
Speaker 1: if you had one team that had so many different
25:21
Speaker 1: limitations and other teams that didn't have any limitations, you'd
25:24
Speaker 1: see a huge disparity. I don't think we're gonna see
25:27
Speaker 1: a lot of disparity, But if you watch the timing
25:30
Speaker 1: of all offenses, in the efficiency of offenses, I think
25:34
Speaker 1: that's gonna be probably the biggest indicator. And the biggest
25:38
Speaker 1: tell is the first year coordinators thing. More than anything,
25:44
Speaker 1: John run all the money. You got a first year
25:46
Speaker 1: coordinator in the first year starting quarterback with a very
25:50
Speaker 1: young offense and obviously we're talking about Gardner, Minshew and
25:53
Speaker 1: and Gruden and the Jaguars offense. I mean, a huge
25:56
Speaker 1: disadvantage in the National Football League this year with that
26:00
Speaker 1: type of situation to deal with. Johnny, Oh, you're writing
26:05
Speaker 1: is available on Jaguars dot com. You're the Jaguars dot
26:09
Speaker 1: Com senior writer. That's where it would be. And what
26:11
Speaker 1: what are you showing us logs on the whole Look?
26:14
Speaker 1: I got O Zones podcast right here on my phone.
26:19
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the here's the best thing about it.
26:21
Speaker 1: It's Pete Prisco. I gotta I gotta listen to that
26:23
Speaker 1: because it's Prisco not only that, there are two episodes
26:27
Speaker 1: with Pete Briscoe, so double your pleasure. He's got way
26:34
Speaker 1: too much hot air in him. Apparently it's not enough.
26:39
Speaker 1: The recap of today available at other story going up
26:41
Speaker 1: soon on Jaguars dot Com. Johnny, Oh, it's always good
26:44
Speaker 1: to see a budon guys. Thanks Jeff all right. John Osier,
26:49
Speaker 1: Senior writer, Jaguars dot Com. Uh, we got to look
26:54
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26:58
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27:02
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27:05
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27:07
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27:10
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27:12
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27:15
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27:16
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27:18
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Speaker 1: This is how it's gonna work. Hold on, I got
31:58
Speaker 1: a question, Yeah, where does that music come from? You
32:04
Speaker 1: know where that music? I know, I know where it
32:06
Speaker 1: comes from as far as the guy that found it.
32:09
Speaker 1: But I need a little help here and understanding exactly
32:12
Speaker 1: what it is because I I've never heard that before
32:15
Speaker 1: and it's very odd the music. I have no idea.
32:18
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't I have never heard that
32:20
Speaker 1: song before in my life. I mean, you know, I'm
32:22
Speaker 1: a little younger than you and the person who makes
32:25
Speaker 1: that decision, Joe, but I'm a lot younger in facts.
32:30
Speaker 1: Joe's got to text me and let me know where
32:32
Speaker 1: that song comes from. The origin of that song. I
32:35
Speaker 1: gotta know because everything he does musically is for a
32:38
Speaker 1: reason because the name of the song is buy or Sell.
32:41
Speaker 1: I think basically that's it. I typed in buy or
32:44
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32:47
Speaker 1: you just google it. Uh, okay, all right, at least
32:56
Speaker 1: it was clean. If it wasn't. After we get off
32:59
Speaker 1: the show. Here, after I get done, listen to the
33:01
Speaker 1: the Ozone podcast, I'm gonna I'm gonna google that. I'm
33:05
Speaker 1: gonna google buy Yourselves. There you have it, and that's
33:08
Speaker 1: what will come up. Apparently, here's how the game works.
33:11
Speaker 1: The first rule is there are no rules. We're just
33:13
Speaker 1: kind of going through it the first time. But I'll
33:15
Speaker 1: say a topic, logs are either gonna buy or sell
33:20
Speaker 1: and explain your reasoning behind it. And I'll do the
33:23
Speaker 1: same thing about that. Number one, The season will start
33:28
Speaker 1: as scheduled Buy Yourself by Yeah, I don't think there's
33:34
Speaker 1: any doubt, but it will start as scheduled because I
33:37
Speaker 1: think leading up to the season there's gonna be a
33:40
Speaker 1: lot of precaution made. The teams aren't traveling. Uh, it's
33:44
Speaker 1: it's the most controlled environment the teams can have all
33:48
Speaker 1: season long. And I think if there was ever a
33:50
Speaker 1: week the game we're gonna be playing it would be
33:52
Speaker 1: opening day? Where should I say kickoff weekend? So I'm
33:56
Speaker 1: with you on the bye for that point. I think
33:59
Speaker 1: they'll everything in their power to get to week one.
34:03
Speaker 1: After that, who knows, you know, things can change in
34:06
Speaker 1: a hurry. They've worked the schedule or weeks two and
34:09
Speaker 1: weeks three can can be moved if they need to
34:12
Speaker 1: and not affect the conference in the division races. So
34:15
Speaker 1: um by on starting as scheduled. If you if I
34:19
Speaker 1: were to ask, you know, the rest of the season unscheduled,
34:21
Speaker 1: I would sell right now. Next one. This is a
34:25
Speaker 1: pretty good one, and he can got way will be
34:27
Speaker 1: on the field for the Jaguars week one by or sell,
34:32
Speaker 1: I'm selling. I don't think it's gonna happen. I think
34:35
Speaker 1: that they've had holy Cow seven months to try to
34:41
Speaker 1: come to some type of agreement. It hasn't happened. I
34:44
Speaker 1: don't think that that agreement is going to happen anytime soon.
34:47
Speaker 1: I think at some point there's gonna be enough of
34:50
Speaker 1: a trade offer to make it. You're worth your while
34:52
Speaker 1: as a as the Jaguars organization to go ahead and
34:56
Speaker 1: just move on. Yeah, I'm a sell as well. And
35:00
Speaker 1: that's the trick. He might be on the field week
35:02
Speaker 1: one if a deal gets done before the season, and
35:06
Speaker 1: he would be on the field somewhere else in a
35:08
Speaker 1: week one, but not for the Jaguars. But it would
35:10
Speaker 1: take who knows what it would take. It would take
35:12
Speaker 1: whatever more than they've already been offered, which apparently they've
35:16
Speaker 1: had a couple of opportunities. Well, let me let me
35:18
Speaker 1: add this to JP if if there are no other options,
35:22
Speaker 1: are you unique and Gockway, it's either play for the
35:25
Speaker 1: Jaguars or don't don't get a check. I'm buying that
35:29
Speaker 1: he's gonna show up, Okay, I mean, because here's the deal.
35:33
Speaker 1: But when are you gonna week one? Well, I don't know.
35:37
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, but I don't
35:39
Speaker 1: worry about in Gockway. As far as being in shape
35:41
Speaker 1: and ready to play football game. He proved it last
35:44
Speaker 1: year that he came in he was ready to go
35:46
Speaker 1: right away. But you're not gonna bypass millions of dollars, okay,
35:52
Speaker 1: and another opportunity to get another significant jump at millions
35:57
Speaker 1: of dollars or a chance to get the free agency
36:00
Speaker 1: possibly again. So um, it's not like Aquay is gonna
36:05
Speaker 1: opt out, you know, and take a hundred fifty grand,
36:08
Speaker 1: or he's just gonna say, you know what, I'm not
36:10
Speaker 1: gonna play for the Jaguars because I'm too burnt about it. Look,
36:16
Speaker 1: money is going to override this situation. If the Jaguars
36:19
Speaker 1: get enough, I think they're gonna trade him. And I
36:21
Speaker 1: think at some point you you'll probably get enough to
36:23
Speaker 1: where you just say, let's just move on as an organization,
36:26
Speaker 1: because you just don't want that. And I'm not saying
36:28
Speaker 1: that Angoquay is a dark cloud, but it's just it's
36:30
Speaker 1: a cloud. Nonetheless, that's it's kind of hanging over your
36:34
Speaker 1: head as an organization. And then where you're young and
36:37
Speaker 1: you're rebuilding, you don't need that. I mean, you just
36:39
Speaker 1: need to put the blinders on and move forward, especially
36:41
Speaker 1: in a year like this. Our next topic, C J.
36:46
Speaker 1: Henderson will be the Jaguars Rookie of the Year and
36:50
Speaker 1: Logs I'll go first to this one. I'm buying this one,
36:53
Speaker 1: and here's some of the reasoning why behind it. Cale
36:56
Speaker 1: and Chason is obviously a rookie is ll but there's
37:01
Speaker 1: a lot of grown men in the trenches. You have
37:03
Speaker 1: to kind of learn how to play. It takes a
37:04
Speaker 1: little longer. You can speak to this a little bit
37:06
Speaker 1: more once uh, we get to that point. Rookie wide
37:10
Speaker 1: receivers have a tough go of it. I think it
37:12
Speaker 1: takes them a little time overall to get things going.
37:16
Speaker 1: So Leaviscas should not might take a little longer to
37:18
Speaker 1: really develop. Hopefully not. Maybe uh he steps in and
37:22
Speaker 1: plays well right away. C J. Henderson is a top
37:25
Speaker 1: ten cornerback and he's gonna start right away, and he'll
37:29
Speaker 1: have some bumps in the road, but I think he'll
37:31
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to make the most impact right out
37:34
Speaker 1: of the gate. That's why I'm buying that he's the
37:36
Speaker 1: Jaguars rookie of the years. Okay, well, here's the deal.
37:42
Speaker 1: He's your first round pick on a top ten pick.
37:45
Speaker 1: He should be. Yeah, I mean, I mean, if not,
37:49
Speaker 1: then what are we doing? But but here's an interesting
37:52
Speaker 1: here's an interesting way too to ask a different question.
37:57
Speaker 1: Would you take c J or the field? Oh? Oh,
38:03
Speaker 1: that's the tough one. But I think I'm still taking
38:06
Speaker 1: c J. See for me, because there's another first round
38:08
Speaker 1: pick in the mix I would take. I would take
38:11
Speaker 1: the field now it's and that's not a criticism of
38:15
Speaker 1: c J at all. Right, is it is it more
38:19
Speaker 1: difficult to break in as a rookie as a defensive
38:23
Speaker 1: laeman edge rusher or as a cornerback in your opinion, Well,
38:28
Speaker 1: a quarnerback gets exposed more, they're more on an island.
38:31
Speaker 1: It's I think it's easier to hide an edge rusher,
38:35
Speaker 1: especially when you've got some other players that are pretty
38:37
Speaker 1: good and also situationally you can play an edge rusher.
38:41
Speaker 1: And so I think it would probably be easier to
38:45
Speaker 1: adapt the National Football League right out of the gate
38:47
Speaker 1: as an edge rusher. I'm not saying the numbers would
38:50
Speaker 1: be there, um, but it's a it's a pretty good
38:54
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good grum amount of growth required to
38:56
Speaker 1: play corner National Football League. And a here's thing, if
39:00
Speaker 1: they play the way they played in the past, where
39:03
Speaker 1: they're leaving their corners on an island. So if Henderson
39:07
Speaker 1: is all sudden out there and playing like Jalen Ramsey, who, yeah,
39:13
Speaker 1: that's a big ask JP, it is, but he was
39:17
Speaker 1: a big draft pick to ten. Corners are expected to
39:20
Speaker 1: do certain things and that's one of them. Right, is
39:23
Speaker 1: to stand there's no doubt and from everything that his
39:28
Speaker 1: coaches in college said, from the numbers that he put
39:31
Speaker 1: up the combine, I mean, this guy is incredibly talented.
39:35
Speaker 1: And uh, the biggest thing I think that you always
39:37
Speaker 1: worry about it. And I'm not talking about C. G.
39:39
Speaker 1: Henderson in particular. I'm talking about any any first round
39:42
Speaker 1: pick or any rookie that we talk about is what's
39:45
Speaker 1: the mental makeup. And when you're talking about cornerback, the
39:48
Speaker 1: mental makeup has to be incredibly strong because you have
39:51
Speaker 1: to have a short memory, you have to be extremely confident,
39:55
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say borderline arrogant, but you've
39:57
Speaker 1: got to be close, you know, and you've got to
39:59
Speaker 1: be a kind of little bit of edgy edginess to you,
40:02
Speaker 1: you know. So it takes a unique type of person
40:04
Speaker 1: to be able to handle playing cornerback in the National
40:07
Speaker 1: Football League. So I've got you down as a cell
40:11
Speaker 1: on C. J. Henders, I'm gonna take the field. I'm
40:15
Speaker 1: fair enough. No judgment here, there's no winner, there's no loser.
40:18
Speaker 1: We're you know, we're just we're throwing it around here.
40:21
Speaker 1: The next one, Leonard four Nets will be the offensive
40:24
Speaker 1: m v P of the Jaguars by our sell us. Again,
40:29
Speaker 1: that's kind of one of those questions, are you taking him?
40:31
Speaker 1: Are you taking the field? Well, that's not the question.
40:33
Speaker 1: That's not what I asked. Well, it's it's it's the
40:36
Speaker 1: same thing. And here's the thing. If I'm buying, that
40:39
Speaker 1: means I think for NET is going to be the
40:40
Speaker 1: m v P. If I'm selling anybody else, I mean,
40:44
Speaker 1: so it's the same question you're taking for NET. Are
40:46
Speaker 1: you taking the field for me? Um, I'm gonna, I'm
40:52
Speaker 1: gonna take the field JP. I'm selling. I'm gonna. I'm
40:55
Speaker 1: gonna sell there because I think that I think we're
40:57
Speaker 1: gonna see some exciting things to the wide receiver group
41:01
Speaker 1: and uh and I think we hopefully we'll see some
41:04
Speaker 1: exciting things out of the quarterback this year. Well, I'm
41:08
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna buy this because I think with the
41:12
Speaker 1: different looking offense, though we have no idea what the
41:15
Speaker 1: hell is gonna look like yet, we haven't seen anybody
41:17
Speaker 1: on the field running around. You think they're gonna open
41:19
Speaker 1: it up some You mentioned the receivers a quarterback. That
41:23
Speaker 1: also opened some space for Leonard four Nette in theory,
41:26
Speaker 1: maybe another guy gets out of the box, and hey,
41:29
Speaker 1: guess what, it's a contract year for seven as well.
41:33
Speaker 1: Not that he isn't motivated all the time anyway, but
41:37
Speaker 1: if there's a year to be out there and be
41:39
Speaker 1: motivated to play and play at the top level, this
41:43
Speaker 1: is the year for that. So give me Leonard for
41:44
Speaker 1: net in a different offense in a contract year. I'm
41:47
Speaker 1: with you because look when I say I'm selling there,
41:51
Speaker 1: and that means I'm taking the field. But if I
41:52
Speaker 1: had to pick one person with the offense, because you know,
41:56
Speaker 1: when you're talking about Leonard Fournett of the field, that's
41:58
Speaker 1: one person or the rest of everybody else, I would
42:01
Speaker 1: take Leonard Fournit if I had to pick one person.
42:04
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been there, he's proven it, he's been
42:07
Speaker 1: a workhorse in this offense. I don't see any reason
42:11
Speaker 1: why he would not be expected to be a workhorse
42:13
Speaker 1: once again. And when you got a guy who's extremely motivated,
42:16
Speaker 1: he's playing in the contract contract year, um, feed him,
42:20
Speaker 1: I mean and feed him and use him as much
42:23
Speaker 1: as you can. And if he's with you next year, great,
42:27
Speaker 1: If he's not, then that's just the way it is
42:29
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And hopefully you'll find somebody
42:32
Speaker 1: replace him that at some point in the future. All right,
42:35
Speaker 1: last one here, and I'll let you start on this one.
42:38
Speaker 1: To Gardner meants you you will be a Pro Bowl
42:41
Speaker 1: player at the end of the season. So boy, I mean,
42:47
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I mean, you're expecting a first
42:49
Speaker 1: year starting quarterback to be a Pro Bowl player. I'm
42:54
Speaker 1: looking and I'm not saying that he can't be. And
42:56
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he can't be or that I'm
42:58
Speaker 1: down on him or anything of that nature, because I
43:00
Speaker 1: think he had the best season of any rookie quarterback
43:04
Speaker 1: last year, and the numbers speak for that. The excitement
43:09
Speaker 1: that we saw with the mins humania I think speaks
43:11
Speaker 1: to that. But to expect him to take that next step,
43:15
Speaker 1: which that's a big step to go from hey, he
43:18
Speaker 1: had a pretty good rookie year to being a Pro
43:20
Speaker 1: Bowl type player, I mean, that's a huge step for
43:23
Speaker 1: anybody to take. And if he does, Wow, then the
43:28
Speaker 1: Jaguars are certainly set as an organization because you feel like, Okay,
43:32
Speaker 1: maybe we've got a franchise quarterback. Is because of the
43:34
Speaker 1: quarterback that you have makes the Pro Bowl in year two,
43:38
Speaker 1: You're talking about a franchise quarterback. So but do I
43:41
Speaker 1: expect that? Note um, and and and here's why new offense,
43:47
Speaker 1: young offense, uh, new terminology, a COVID nineteen offseason. A
43:54
Speaker 1: lot of speculation and and and unknowns when you're talking
43:58
Speaker 1: about a season. For me, that's a lot to ask
44:01
Speaker 1: of a young quarterback with the expectation of be a
44:04
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type of player. I'm selling this as well
44:07
Speaker 1: for the reasons that you provided, but consider some other
44:12
Speaker 1: a f C quarterbacks that are in this conference as well.
44:16
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about Pat Mahomes that they're not
44:18
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl again, he's gonna be in the
44:21
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Um, you're talking about big time names. Philip
44:24
Speaker 1: Rivers is an indie right now. For goodness sakes, Lamar
44:27
Speaker 1: Jackson the m v P. I mean that's just three
44:30
Speaker 1: off the top. Ben Roethlisberger still playing football. You might
44:33
Speaker 1: have heard of him. So it's a lot of big
44:35
Speaker 1: time names who've been around the blocker time with two
44:37
Speaker 1: in the a f C. Not to say that he
44:39
Speaker 1: couldn't slide in somehow, but you have to really outplay
44:43
Speaker 1: a whole lot of guys in the a f C
44:45
Speaker 1: to get voted into the Pro Bowl if you're not
44:48
Speaker 1: sliding in as a reserve later down the line. Well,
44:50
Speaker 1: and and here's the deal. To to have individual recognition,
44:55
Speaker 1: you have to have great team success. That's step number one.
45:00
Speaker 1: If you don't have great team success, the chances of
45:02
Speaker 1: getting recognized for Pro Bowl are are tough unless you
45:06
Speaker 1: have incredible numbers. I mean incredible numbers. And a quarterback
45:10
Speaker 1: is always judged by wins and losses. And this team
45:14
Speaker 1: is a long way away from last year saying Okay,
45:19
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a successful football team. They're gonna
45:22
Speaker 1: have ten plus wins as an organization. That's that's a
45:25
Speaker 1: lot to ask. We're back in a moment. We'll go
45:29
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45:32
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you buying or selling by ourselves? No,
45:35
Speaker 1: I'm buying it. I'm buying it. And you know, we'll
45:37
Speaker 1: mix it up, and I'll also kind of criticize the
45:40
Speaker 1: question every now again. That's fair. You can mix it up,
45:44
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45:46
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50:06
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50:09
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50:13
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50:18
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50:20
Speaker 1: Pretty cool stuff, lugs, very cool stuff, and you always
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50:31
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50:34
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50:36
Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and logs. The
50:40
Speaker 1: opt outs around the league continue to roll in, including
50:44
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs running back Damian Williams. Now in steps
50:48
Speaker 1: rookie Clyde Edwards Hilaire out of l s U. He's
50:51
Speaker 1: a first round traffick running back. He was expecting to
50:53
Speaker 1: contribute anyway, but with the Super Bowl hero Williams out,
50:57
Speaker 1: now it's a it's a big spotlight now for Edwards
50:59
Speaker 1: away well, I think it's a big spotlight and one
51:03
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs were excited about getting them because they
51:07
Speaker 1: were raving about him after they were able to get
51:09
Speaker 1: him in the draft, and they said, he's a multidimensional tool.
51:12
Speaker 1: He's gonna be not only a running back, but a
51:14
Speaker 1: great receiving option out of the backfield. And when you
51:17
Speaker 1: put a guy that has that flexibility like him in
51:21
Speaker 1: that offense, man, that's a hard offense to deal with
51:25
Speaker 1: as it is, but then you put another kind of
51:27
Speaker 1: a jack of all trades in it. Hold on a
51:30
Speaker 1: lot of opt outs around the league, though, lugs with that.
51:33
Speaker 1: You know, obviously, if you have a pre existing condition
51:36
Speaker 1: and are a little more susceptible to COVID nineteen, there's
51:40
Speaker 1: a higher payout. It's a hundred and fifty thousand dollars otherwise,
51:44
Speaker 1: but it does come out of your salary next year
51:47
Speaker 1: if you decide to opt out this year. Yeah, that's
51:49
Speaker 1: a tough decision, I think for a lot of guys
51:52
Speaker 1: because it's not necessarily just about them. It's about their family.
51:57
Speaker 1: You know. Some guys may have a mother or a
52:01
Speaker 1: father that lives with them that may be at risk.
52:04
Speaker 1: They may have a newborn children. Uh So there's a
52:08
Speaker 1: lot of different reasons why people could opt out and
52:11
Speaker 1: totally understand it. Totally understand it because if you are
52:15
Speaker 1: at risk, it's real. I mean it's absolutely real. And
52:18
Speaker 1: you know, we all got to see firsthand with with
52:21
Speaker 1: Poselli's issue when he had COVID in early stages of
52:26
Speaker 1: all this was going down. Heck, he's an intensive care
52:29
Speaker 1: you know. So, Uh did the thought cross my mind
52:33
Speaker 1: that Tony might not make it at that point? Heck yeah,
52:36
Speaker 1: you know so. I mean, if you're somebody that has
52:38
Speaker 1: those type of concerns, or somebody in your family has
52:40
Speaker 1: those type of concerned you know, totally get opting out,
52:44
Speaker 1: and I think it was great that that the league
52:46
Speaker 1: and the union were able to come to an agreement
52:49
Speaker 1: in that fashion so that the players don't feel like
52:52
Speaker 1: they have to do something. This gives them a way
52:56
Speaker 1: to take a step back and then to make an
52:59
Speaker 1: important decision that is sometimes the most important decision. The
53:04
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans have still not heard from Vic Beasley. He
53:07
Speaker 1: did not show up for COVID nineteen testing again Wednesday.
53:11
Speaker 1: I had no communication with the team as to why
53:13
Speaker 1: he was added to the reserve, did not report list.
53:16
Speaker 1: And now it's a one year proven deal with Tennessee
53:18
Speaker 1: this offseason, but so far a no show in Tennessee. Yeah,
53:23
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand that. You know, Vic Beasley
53:26
Speaker 1: is a is a good football player. Uh, you obviously
53:30
Speaker 1: didn't get the contract. I mean, I don't know. I mean,
53:33
Speaker 1: here's the thing. When you don't have any kind of
53:35
Speaker 1: response from a player and there's no information coming from
53:39
Speaker 1: him or his camp, I mean, everything else is just speculation.
53:43
Speaker 1: I hope everything is okay with him and uh, and
53:46
Speaker 1: at some point, I'm sure we'll find out what's going on. Yeah, well,
53:49
Speaker 1: uh we'll find out. Yeah, I didn't didn't show up
53:51
Speaker 1: again yesterday. Nick Bosa has shown up, though, and he
53:55
Speaker 1: is getting paid by the Chargers a five year extensive,
53:59
Speaker 1: highest paid defensive player in the NFL. UH. The extension
54:03
Speaker 1: is worth a hundred thirty five million dollars, including a
54:06
Speaker 1: hundred and two million dollars guaranteed that exceeds the Miles
54:10
Speaker 1: Garrett extension that he got from Cleveland a couple of
54:12
Speaker 1: weeks back. So a lot of money going out to
54:15
Speaker 1: the Boasta family. Well, he's worth He's worth every penny
54:19
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a guy that from him and
54:22
Speaker 1: his brother both when when they stepped into the to
54:25
Speaker 1: the game, they were dominant immediately. Now, I don't put
54:29
Speaker 1: him on the level of like a Reggie White or
54:32
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, but I mean he is one of the
54:35
Speaker 1: premier pass rushers in the National Football League. He's got
54:39
Speaker 1: a great motor, He's got a lot of different ways
54:41
Speaker 1: that he can rush the quarterback effectively. He's good against
54:44
Speaker 1: the run. Uh, He's he's the type of player he's
54:47
Speaker 1: a foundational building block of any organization. Of course, I
54:51
Speaker 1: called him the wrong brother name. It's a Joey Bosa
54:54
Speaker 1: got paid by the Chargers. Nick' that's both of him
55:00
Speaker 1: are so dagon good. I mean, here's a great argument,
55:04
Speaker 1: who would you rather have? Would you rather have Nick
55:07
Speaker 1: or would you rather have Joey? I mean, I think
55:09
Speaker 1: that's a great question, and I think a lot of
55:12
Speaker 1: general managers would have a hard time determining which one
55:15
Speaker 1: that they would have first out of those two guys. Well,
55:18
Speaker 1: who would you take first? Well, I don't know. I mean,
55:22
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little bit more sample size
55:23
Speaker 1: that I mean, so far, everything that I've seen out
55:26
Speaker 1: of Nick, I'd have a tendency to lean towards Nick
55:29
Speaker 1: right now after watching his rookie season, he was tremendous. Well,
55:33
Speaker 1: I would take him because he's cheaper right now than
55:36
Speaker 1: than Joey is after yesterday. Right, that's a that's a
55:41
Speaker 1: great statement because economics always does factor into roster building.
55:46
Speaker 1: Is that all right? Because you know, you never know
55:49
Speaker 1: you're in, you're cheap, you're so well, I mean, the
55:53
Speaker 1: salary cap by trip next year, I gotta think ahead now.
55:56
Speaker 1: I think for this year, we're gonna think three years
55:58
Speaker 1: ahead live you know, hopefully there's a little bit of
56:02
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the salary cap, you know, the
56:05
Speaker 1: the agreement that the NFL p A and the NFL
56:08
Speaker 1: has and you you're talking about smoothing it out and
56:11
Speaker 1: lessening the pain over a number of years instead of
56:14
Speaker 1: having that that one year hit, which would have been
56:17
Speaker 1: catastrophic for some football teams if you didn't have some
56:20
Speaker 1: type of agreement in place that allowed the numbers to
56:24
Speaker 1: smooth over time and you know whereas if they stayed
56:28
Speaker 1: under the current rules of play, there would have been
56:29
Speaker 1: a massive salary cap hit in and teams would have
56:33
Speaker 1: been cutting guys all over. Final piece of news around
56:37
Speaker 1: the league, the league's top one d players list came
56:41
Speaker 1: out through NFL Media. Here's the top five and it's
56:44
Speaker 1: been relatively controversial today. Number five was Sints wide receiver
56:49
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, number four Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes, number three
56:55
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald of the Rams, Number two Russell Wilson of
56:58
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and number one Lamar Jackson of the Ravens.
57:02
Speaker 1: And I guess you're not you're not an agreeance. I'm
57:05
Speaker 1: taking Patrick Mahomes as number one all day long, every day,
57:10
Speaker 1: even on Sunday. Not well, the situation where this is
57:14
Speaker 1: de voted on by players usually November December time frame,
57:19
Speaker 1: and and the question is how many players vote? How scientific?
57:24
Speaker 1: Is this is up your debate? I think, uh, Lamar
57:28
Speaker 1: Jackson is the m v P. Though I mean I'm
57:30
Speaker 1: not I'm not now having Mahomes fourth. I'm with you.
57:33
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be fourth on that list. Should at least Look,
57:37
Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson's a great football player, and he's
57:40
Speaker 1: I can't imagine trying to prepare for a quarterback of
57:42
Speaker 1: that nature of your defensive coordinat but longevity. Which quarterback
57:47
Speaker 1: are you taking? Are you taking the quarterback that's gonna
57:49
Speaker 1: function from the pocket. Are you gonna take the quarterback
57:52
Speaker 1: that makes things happen with his legs? I'm taking the
57:55
Speaker 1: guy that functions in the pocket. Well you you called
57:59
Speaker 1: that the pre draft process too, by the way, remember yeah, Well,
58:03
Speaker 1: I mean I thought of all the college players that
58:06
Speaker 1: I watched quarterbacks, you know, not like I haven't been
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Speaker 1: watching it forever, but it was the most impressive college
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Speaker 1: quarterback that I've ever watched the film on and he
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Speaker 1: just blew me away and some of the things that
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Speaker 1: he was able to do or just nothing short of impressive,
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Speaker 1: fun player to watch. And he's still is shown that
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And sometimes when you watch
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Speaker 1: film and those are things that you see, you just
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Speaker 1: don't know everything else about the player. All you're seeing
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Speaker 1: is film. So you're sitting there going, well, something's got
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Speaker 1: to be wrong with him if nobody's taken him like
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Speaker 1: a number one or number two or number three. I
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Speaker 1: was thinking that maybe he didn't have the mental capacity.
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Speaker 1: Maybe he's a bad guy. I couldn't figure out why
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Speaker 1: he went where he did. Well, now he's got he
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Speaker 1: can earn up to a half billion dollars with a b.
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Speaker 1: Now he just bought a piece of the Royal It's true.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing. He's so good. He just bought
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Speaker 1: at a piece of the Kansas City Royals. That's amazing stuff.
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Speaker 1: There's a look around the National Football League. Our thanks
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Speaker 1: to John Oser, Jaguars dot Com senior writer for joining
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Speaker 1: us a little bit earlier in the program and coming
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Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour. Just a little
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Speaker 1: less than a minute, The Doug Moron Show had coach
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Speaker 1: Doug Maron standing by lives. It's good to see your
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Speaker 1: face on at least on the computer screen. Good JP
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Speaker 1: is always good to be seen and uh and it
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Speaker 1: was good to see your face as well. And uh,
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Speaker 1: and I can see I can see a couple of
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Speaker 1: the faces. We're gonna talk to you here in a minute.
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Speaker 1: I'm when I'm styling. Yeah, coming in, uh, coming up
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Speaker 1: shortly the Doug bron Show standby for that on the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network. That will do it. This has been
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.