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Alex Van Halen: The Grave Robbing of Heavy Metal · Classic Metal Show

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SPEAKER_01: Hey, what's up?
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SPEAKER_01: This is Mike with Santa Sonia and you're watching CMS TV.
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SPEAKER_01: The CMS Network
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From the Alive 2 release it's Kiss with the God of Thunder that
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one going out by
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request to NF18275 just before that we heard Van Halen from the
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women and children
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first release with Sunday afternoon in the park going into one
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foot out the door
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SPEAKER_00: going out by request to Fuego
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Bullet Boys in there from the Sophie release with Kiss the
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Lizard for George from
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Sydney HSAS Top of Rock for my nephew James Sonic's Rendezvous
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Band with Dangerous
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for Four Heady Trunk and kicking off that block we heard
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Brittany Fox with Louder
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SPEAKER_00: for Shelly Rocks
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there we go almost lost you there for a minute just a second I
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just had a sudden
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nosebleed I was sitting here and I I thought my nose was
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running and all of a
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sudden that's like holy shit I got blood coming out of my nose
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so I had to get up
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real quick and get a tissue and it stopped pretty quickly but
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it was just my nose
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was starting to itch and I and I just kind of scratched my nose
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and all of a sudden
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SPEAKER_00: I started getting a nosebleed I was like oh shit
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SPEAKER_00: Just when we were going to go back on the air,
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SPEAKER_00: as it were,
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SPEAKER_00: and all of a sudden my nose is like bleeding.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, oh shit.
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SPEAKER_03: You're going to have to stop doing all that cocaine during the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: The guys in the chat room were chopping up some lines and I partook.
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SPEAKER_03: It was that religital.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it must have been.
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SPEAKER_00: Just catching the cup in the pontiff's hat.
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SPEAKER_03: Still one of my favorite, might be my favorite clip of all time.
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We definitely got to include that in the list that we're asked
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about together.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_03: that has to go because that was,
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SPEAKER_03: that might be my funniest off-the-cuff moment I've ever had.
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that was so off the cuff and so wild yeah you made the comedian
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break character
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yeah he stopped being Sister Bertha Bangers for a minute yeah
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he goes you got me so
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ridiculously over the top you ruin the comedian's comedy well
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his comedy was
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SPEAKER_03: terrible it was awful that was what was fun was
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we got asked to do that we got asked to participate and we told
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Scott I think we
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told him ahead of time we said if this guy sucks we are going
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to fucking hammer him
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and we hammered his guy before him too remember there was
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another guy like RJ or TJ
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or something yeah I think it was RJ and we kept hanging up on
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him that was the
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SPEAKER_00: night we got to talk to Tommy Two-Tone Tommy Two-Tone yeah yeah
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that was a crazy show that was a really crazy episode
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completely unexpected yeah we
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talked to Tommy's two-toed and asked him about the snake man
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and found my wallet
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yeah then then the the RJ guy comes on trying to be shocking
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with us and we just
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fucking lit him on fire we out shocked the shocker yeah we did
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what did what did
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Scott say when he called back I think his phone melted from you
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guys beating him up
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Then he put that stupid Bertha Bangers on it We just fucking
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destroyed Sister
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Bertha Bangers as well You guys gotta have this guy on the show
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He's so funny He'll
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SPEAKER_03: fit perfect with you guys How'd that work out?
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SPEAKER_00: Didn't quite know how to hang No,
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SPEAKER_00: he wasn't ready for us Nobody's ready for that You think you're funny?
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SPEAKER_03: You think you're dangerous?
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, challenge accepted
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that line about jacking off in the pontiff's hat.
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SPEAKER_03: Holy smokes.
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SPEAKER_03: Even I was like, what did I just say here?
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SPEAKER_03: Religital.
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SPEAKER_03: Religital.
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SPEAKER_03: My disciples, Peter, Paul, Ringo, John, and Jor.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_00: That's so stupid.
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SPEAKER_03: It was so stupid.
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SPEAKER_03: He's like, did you ever hear a religital?
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SPEAKER_03: I was like, no.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, just...
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SPEAKER_03: Hard shut him down so he couldn't even go from there.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, let me tell you about religion, Tom.
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SPEAKER_03: Nah, don't.
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SPEAKER_03: Really, you don't have to.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me see if I can find that real quick.
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SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't mind.
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SPEAKER_03: We got a couple minutes.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Birth of bangers.
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SPEAKER_03: Bangers.
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SPEAKER_03: Sister birth of bangers.
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SPEAKER_03: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Was this like all the way back in like 2008 or something?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was before I left the show.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 2007, 2008.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was.
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SPEAKER_03: We were on a roll.
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SPEAKER_03: We definitely were on a roll.
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SPEAKER_03: It's like six minutes long.
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SPEAKER_03: Let me share this.
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SPEAKER_03: Play this.
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SPEAKER_03: This will be new for some of you, but a lot of you.
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SPEAKER_03: If you're an old schooler, you probably...
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you certainly remember this you probably love this well let me
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set this up a little
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bit so years ago when Chris and I you know were doing the show
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you know it was
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internet based only we had a guy who discovered the show and
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thought we were really
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funny and he really enjoyed the show and he ran a low power FM
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station out of Enid
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SPEAKER_00: Oklahoma called The Rocket
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and he wanted to put the classic metal show on the rocket and
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you know this was an
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over the air FM station and obviously we could not be you know
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say the words that
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we use and the content that we presented and things on FM radio
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so we took the time
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out of our week to record a separate version of the classic
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metal show for two
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SPEAKER_00: hours
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a clean version of the CMS for two hours that they could air on
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the rocket and uh
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so the the the owner of the station his name was Scott he uh
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you know he he would
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like to call into the show from time to time and he wanted to
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yuck it up with us
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SPEAKER_00: too
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and his other disc jockeys that he had working at the station
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they were not too
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fond of us no they hated us that Mike Williams I think he
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didn't like us the other
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guys did not like us at all because we were the shock jocks
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well they were like old
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SPEAKER_03: yeah they were old Scott was probably 60 when we met him right
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Anita was 150 she was old as hell that Mike dude was an old guy
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yeah and the funny
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thing let me tell one quick funny one about that guy so Scott
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was trying what radio
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guys do which is you get a new show and you kind of integrate
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it with the old shows
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so that it feels like one big happy family that's like old
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school 80s radio right
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SPEAKER_03: and
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so he tried to integrate us and he would call me and he'd be
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like hey why don't you
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call in to Mike's show and so I was like okay one time he
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called me and I was like
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alright I'll call in to Mike's show and Mike was playing I
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don't know he was doing
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like all Beatles or Beach Boys or something Beach Boys it was
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Beach Boys yeah it
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SPEAKER_03: was all Beach Boys
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and I um I called in and I I said hey I just wanted to request
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a Beach Boys song
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and I requested the one that Charles Manson wrote right right
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he's like I'm not
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gonna play that I'm not gonna play that right and then he went
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to Scott and bitched
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about what an asshole I was trying to sabotage his show and you
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know we should be
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kicked off the station and all this other shit I was like dude
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relax we're just
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SPEAKER_03: playing
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SPEAKER_00: What was the word?
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SPEAKER_00: Did we use the word freaking or something?
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SPEAKER_00: Freaking.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he didn't like freaking.
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SPEAKER_00: He didn't like freaking.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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Because we were still trying to do our show as best we could
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without swearing.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, so we would definitely say freaking.
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SPEAKER_03: Remember, we even started making fun of it.
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SPEAKER_03: We started calling it the flip-flarn in this and that.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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You know,
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because we were just trying to make fun of the fact that we
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couldn't swear.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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and what we were trying to do was lead people to the uncensored
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show that's what we
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wanted we didn't give a shit really about being on in Oklahoma
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we wanted to get the
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yeah I know so so anyway uh this Scott Clark who who ran this
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KEIF that's what
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that's what it was right yeah KEIF the rocket 104.7 and 104.7
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um he he wanted so
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SPEAKER_00: bad to to be part of our little group
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he was such a fan and he just thought Chris and I were just
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like the funniest thing
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he ever heard so they were having some kind of a rocket night
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out or something like
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that and their featured guest was Tommy Two-Tone of 867-5309
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fame and somehow Scott
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SPEAKER_03: was friends with him which is how they got him
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and and then they had some comedians and they you know they
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were it was a it was a
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kif night out entertainment night out yeah and so we're doing
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the show on Saturday
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and he's doing this live thing out and so he thought it would
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be fun to to have his
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SPEAKER_00: talent
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come on our show live while we were doing the show and he was
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just telling us how
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funny these guys are and how edgy they are and how crazy they
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are and they're just
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nutty and you know they got our sense of humor and they're just
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they're just dirty
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and you know wild and it's like well let's just see how dirty
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and wild these guys
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SPEAKER_00: are and
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they came on the show and we're gonna hear a segment here where
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this comedian he
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portrayed a church lady by the name of Sister Bertha Bangers
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Sister Bertha Bangers
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and she was a crazy church lady and she was sniffing Religitol
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which I guess was
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SPEAKER_00: her was her religious cocaine or whatever right mm-hmm
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and so we just we just played along and Chris had the line of
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the day and it just
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it made him break character well I just I was and you'll hear
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it when you hear this
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I was so disgusted that we were doing this because I I honestly
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was like this guy
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SPEAKER_03: because he's terrible he blows it's not funny it's not
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SPEAKER_03: And the gimmick wasn't funny.
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SPEAKER_03: None of it was funny.
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SPEAKER_03: And as you guys will hear,
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SPEAKER_03: not only do I get off the zinger of all time,
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SPEAKER_03: but even leading up to it,
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SPEAKER_03: I just would not play.
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SPEAKER_03: Everything he said,
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SPEAKER_03: like he was trying to do his own setups,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: he was trying to get me to say,
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SPEAKER_03: like he would say,
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SPEAKER_03: have you ever tried Religital?
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SPEAKER_03: And he was like trying to get me to say...
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yeah I have or whatever or what do you say something about have
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you ever heard of
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it and he wanted me to say well tell me about it that's what
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this dummy wanted me
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to say but I was like have you ever heard of it no and then I
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think at one part I
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SPEAKER_03: said is this where I laugh but yeah I gave this guy just a headache
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remember how mad they were like the Monday after Scott called
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and he was pissed he
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was like you fucking tore down my whole show yeah you guys
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didn't play along and
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you know I just thought it would be a great segment and it was
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a great segment it
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was a great segment alright let's get to this here it is do we
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want to mute mics or
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do we want to stop in between I mean it's 7 minutes do you want
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to just play it
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SPEAKER_03: well let's just
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SPEAKER_00: comment on it as it goes.
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SPEAKER_03: Alright, here we go.
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So this was us on the Classic Metal Show because there is
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definitely profanity in this.
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This was on the Classic Metal Show but the station trying to
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work in their comic with us.
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SPEAKER_03: So here we go.
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SPEAKER_03: Hey.
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SPEAKER_03: Hey Scott.
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SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
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SPEAKER_03: Where is this at?
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SPEAKER_03: I gotta unmute it.
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SPEAKER_03: Unmute.
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SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
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SPEAKER_01: What happened, man?
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SPEAKER_01: Did your phone cut out?
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SPEAKER_02: No, I don't know what happened.
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SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
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SPEAKER_02: You know, it just may...
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SPEAKER_02: They may have melted down the circuits or something.
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SPEAKER_02: They had to cool off.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, they were kind of wild.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because RJ there, he was pretty shocking.
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SPEAKER_01: He might have melted things.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, it probably was RJ.
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SPEAKER_02: He's kind of a shocking guy.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was shocking, all right.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
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SPEAKER_02: But you know what?
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I've been out here doing lines of religion talk with Sister
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Bertha Bangers.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And Sister Bertha Bangers is America's craziest church lady.
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SPEAKER_02: And let me tell you, Sister Bertha, come here.
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Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm going to stop here just for a second.
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SPEAKER_03: You can hear he really believes in this bit.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_00: He just wanted to push this on us because it was just like,
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SPEAKER_00: see,
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SPEAKER_00: I could bring something wild and crazy to the table like you two guys.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he got dealt.
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That's really what Scott was trying to do was like,
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you know,
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you guys are so edgy and crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: I got a crazy side too.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: And we put that right in its place.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
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SPEAKER_02: Sister Bertha, come here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, let's go.
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SPEAKER_01: Get that religious cunt on the phone.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
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SPEAKER_02: Do what?
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SPEAKER_01: Get that religious cunt on the phone.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: They want to talk to the...
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SPEAKER_02: They called you a religious cunt.
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SPEAKER_02: Here's Chris O'Neill from the Classic Metal show.
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SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you hear me?
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, you satanic slut?
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SPEAKER_01: What's happening?
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SPEAKER_03: How awful is this?
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, honestly, this is so, so bad.
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Well,
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this is what passes for entertainment out in the middle of
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Oklahoma.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, we gave it a jump start, as you'll see here in a second.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, here we go.
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FM the rocket even Oklahoma to open up the show that's what's
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going on what the
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fuck are you guys doing well talk to me sister Bertha teach me
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something about the
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Bible let's talk about the book of Luke what can you tell me
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about the book of Luke
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SPEAKER_01: you fucking goof you fucking goof
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just zero respect for the gimmick zero alright here we go Luke
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I had seven children
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back in the starting in the 70s all the way through to 2000s I
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had seven children
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and they were named Matthew Mark Luke and John and Paul George
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and Ringo really
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SPEAKER_02: which ones did you fuck god damn
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SPEAKER_02: That runs pretty rampant in that Catholic church I hear
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Listen sister,
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did you ever jack off the pontiff and catch the cum in his hat?
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SPEAKER_02: You got me!
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SPEAKER_02: Oh shit, you got me on that.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't plan on that.
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SPEAKER_02: It was right out of the left heavy metal field.
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SPEAKER_02: But let me tell you something.
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SPEAKER_00: You got me.
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SPEAKER_00: I wasn't planning on that.
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SPEAKER_01: Who was?
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SPEAKER_01: I wasn't planning on it either.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: Here's a little more.
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SPEAKER_02: I came here to do this concert from Fundyville,
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SPEAKER_02: Illinois where Religital,
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SPEAKER_02: Religital,
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SPEAKER_02: the drug Religital is taken by 90 to 95% of the population at all times.
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SPEAKER_02: Religital.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you ever heard of Religital?
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SPEAKER_01: No, I haven't heard of that.
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SPEAKER_01: Tell me about it.
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SPEAKER_02: Religital is made up of 500 milligrams of Phungamine Acini.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you know what religion doll is?
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SPEAKER_02: Have you ever heard of fundamine asinine?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_02: It was created by Bible Fundamentalist.
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SPEAKER_02: Fundy for short.
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SPEAKER_01: Was it?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Fundy.
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SPEAKER_02: Fundy is short for Bible Fundamentalist.
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SPEAKER_02: Religion doll is 500 milligrams of fundamine asinine per
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I know just now repeating himself we're like three minutes in
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and he's already out
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of material it's because you derailed him I really did that was
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a brutal line and
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not of a religion at all here we go I've been doing it and when
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I was doing it in
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SPEAKER_02: the studio Pat Robertson Jerry Falwell and George Bush
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came down to the recording session and gave me the notes of fun
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emails so I could
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SPEAKER_02: record my song,
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SPEAKER_02: Soldiers for the Savior.
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SPEAKER_02: Have you ever heard of that song?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we tried to fast forward it, but we couldn't.
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SPEAKER_02: You better find a way to play it, because I know people who know you.
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Listen,
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sister,
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I need to know something and this is something I've wondered
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for years.
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SPEAKER_01: Was that really Jesus in the manger or did your uterus just fall out?
22:40
SPEAKER_02: Jesus Christ.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: No,
22:42
what that was was actually a head of clitoral reconstruction
22:46
and everything that
22:47
SPEAKER_02: they cut off,
22:48
SPEAKER_02: they just threw it there right there in the manger for the cow to eat.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever had such in a church?
22:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, why?
23:01
I went to church and I had a priest I'll tell you what if you
23:03
go to do your duty to
23:05
SPEAKER_02: do do do where it's taboo you'll get off like you never knew Really?
23:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah Is this the part where I laugh right here?
23:17
Oh no this is not a laughing program we're getting serious
23:21
about this shit That's
23:23
right I'm still waiting for my definition on the book of Luke
23:27
The book of Luke well
23:28
SPEAKER_01: I told ya
23:30
Matthew,
23:31
Mark,
23:31
Luke,
23:32
and John George,
23:33
Paul,
23:33
and Ringo Hey,
23:34
what are you gonna do?
23:36
Fuck!
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Fuck Luke!
23:38
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you in the air!
23:40
SPEAKER_03: All right,
23:45
sister I just love listening to you I can hear you laughing in
23:48
the back It's just
23:51
SPEAKER_00: so dumb It's so dumb,
23:53
SPEAKER_00: but it was too fucking funny I mean,
23:56
SPEAKER_00: you know what?
23:56
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
23:57
you know what still amazes me at this point what's that is the
24:01
fact that we
24:02
perfected our audio so well even back then back then when the
24:06
internet was terrible
24:07
yeah yeah it sounds really good actually all right here we go a
24:12
little bit more
24:14
Eartha Banger tell people where they can find you well all you
24:19
rock and roll
24:19
heathens listen to that melodic heavy rock that was big in the
24:24
80s yeah I remember
24:26
SPEAKER_02: that stuff
24:27
Scott Clark used to come over to my house,
24:29
smoke a bong and listen to it.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: All that 80s rock melodic shit.
24:35
SPEAKER_02: All right,
24:36
you can hear my commentary about it on myspace.com forward
24:41
slash Sister Bertha
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Bangers.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Or if you're hardcore and you want to get turned on or a legit tall,
24:48
500 milligrams of fundamental mean ass and I ain't going to
24:52
Bertha Bangers.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: Is that enough?
24:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh no,
24:56
SPEAKER_00: we lost our connection again God damn it That's too much You know,
25:07
SPEAKER_00: I've had enough I like Scott and all,
25:11
SPEAKER_00: but come on Please Come on,
25:17
I was just getting into some enthralling religious conversation
25:21
Nice Wait,
25:22
SPEAKER_01: did I come out swinging or what?
25:24
SPEAKER_01: Wow
25:27
oh boy look I even took her out of character I know you had her
25:33
about coming in the
25:36
pontiff's hat how does that shit end up in my head that's nice
25:45
did you ever jack
25:46
SPEAKER_00: off and come in the pontiff's hat Jesus wow
25:55
there you have it wow the good old days that is some good stuff
26:02
there that must
26:07
have been one of the nights your wife wasn't listening and
26:10
monitoring the show I'm
26:12
sure I can tell you for a fact no she definitely heard that she
26:16
heard that one oh
26:17
yeah she definitely heard that one was that a fightable night
26:23
what do you think
26:25
where was she going in the morning to church yeah of course and
26:29
here I was
26:29
blaspheming I was blaspheming that's funny this is why you need
26:37
to get off that
26:38
show yeah you're going straight to hell for being for being
26:44
funny yeah how dare you
26:46
be funny even she can't deny that that's funny that's may not
26:50
be her humor but that
26:51
SPEAKER_03: shit is fucking funny
26:55
yeah good stuff man I love those days I do love hearing a lot
27:00
of those real old
27:01
classic and dude that's 20 years ago 20 years ago yeah that's
27:08
that is so crazy that
27:09
that's 20 years ago god damn it that was funny shit yeah well
27:14
we did well back then
27:15
we did that's when we were good now we just going through the
27:20
motions exactly
27:23
SPEAKER_03: I saw that on YouTube this week.
27:24
SPEAKER_03: That's why somebody said, I remember the glory days of the CMS.
27:29
SPEAKER_03: The glory days.
27:30
SPEAKER_03: I was like, yeah, me too.
27:32
SPEAKER_03: We used to be so much better.
27:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we were so shocking.
27:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
27:39
SPEAKER_03: Too good.
27:40
SPEAKER_03: I love that shit.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: All right.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: Well, what else you got?
27:45
SPEAKER_03: Well, let's get into, let's go back to some tunage just because this
27:51
SPEAKER_03: I was excited about this,
27:52
SPEAKER_03: but now that I'm seeing what this is turning into,
27:54
SPEAKER_03: I'm no longer excited about this.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: You heard about this Judas Priest documentary, right?
28:01
SPEAKER_00: I heard there's one being made, yes.
28:05
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's getting ready to come out.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: And I'm already thinking it's going to suck now.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: They tried to do it without K.K.
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SPEAKER_03: Downing, first of all.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's just, how do you do that?
28:18
yeah he's the founding member yeah he has to be involved
28:22
heavily involved I don't
28:24
care how much these guys don't like each other he has to be a
28:28
prominent member the
28:29
same as Glenn Tipton and Ian Hill and Rob Halford right full
28:36
stop on that then what
28:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm hearing and I'm only hearing it because I see Ripper on
28:44
Facebook or Twitter or wherever it is he's not featured in this
28:48
thing at all he was
28:51
a large part of Judas Priest what do you do four records eight
28:56
ten years something
28:57
like that I mean he was in there for a long time he's not in
29:02
this so now I'm like
29:04
what is this this is gonna be some bullshit documentary do you
29:09
think do you agree
29:10
SPEAKER_00: or what do you think well yeah I mean Ripper
29:15
SPEAKER_00: is part of the history of Judas Priest.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: He held them together until Rob Halford came back.
29:26
SPEAKER_03: I get if...
29:29
SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to think of somebody to be comparable.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: Blaze Bailey?
29:33
SPEAKER_03: How long was Blaze in Iron Maiden?
29:36
SPEAKER_03: Four years?
29:36
SPEAKER_03: Four years?
29:37
SPEAKER_03: Five years?
29:37
SPEAKER_03: Something like that?
29:39
SPEAKER_03: He's right on the iffy cuff if Iron Maiden did a documentary.
29:44
but he did two records with them he did two records with them
29:48
and so did Ripper
29:50
Ripper did four if you count the live records because he did
29:54
Jugulator what's the
29:56
second one called Demolition Live in London and then the other
30:04
one whatever the
30:06
other one that's like the Judas Priest logo on fire whatever
30:10
that Live 98 or
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SPEAKER_03: something
30:12
that's what it was yeah I mean he did four records I believe
30:16
they had a Grammy
30:17
nomination during his time and he did like 25% of their career
30:26
20-25% of their
30:27
career he was in the band you gotta include him don't you I
30:31
agree I mean he played
30:34
a prominent part of keeping Judas Priest a name that was still
30:39
able to get out
30:40
SPEAKER_00: there and tour yeah
30:43
and all the while Rob Halford was kind of trying to seem like
30:47
he was kind of trying
30:48
to step on their dick at the same time yeah he was trying to
30:51
sabotage that because
30:53
he did fight which was basically a heavier Judas Priest which I
30:57
don't know who came
30:58
out first I don't remember but it seemed like they were
31:02
competing I remember
31:03
thinking they were competing with each other with fight versus
31:07
versus painkiller
31:09
SPEAKER_00: and not only that
31:12
the very night that Judas Priest was debuting with Ripper
31:17
that's when Rob went on
31:19
MTV and came out as gay so it was like he was trying to steal
31:25
the headline yeah he
31:26
SPEAKER_03: was like well if anybody's getting Judas Priest headlines it's me tonight
31:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
31:31
so I'm going to come out as a gay man on MTV I'm going to
31:36
announce that I'm coming
31:38
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31:45
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32:09
SPEAKER_03: yeah so this thing is getting ready to hit
32:15
I don't even want to read this because again it's written by AI
32:18
so you know it's
32:18
going to get into that whole do you believe do I believe blah
32:22
blah blah blah you
32:23
know I'm just saying I personally as a Judas Priest absolute
32:27
worshipper fan am
32:30
really disappointed that these guys can't see past their own
32:37
bullshit to make
32:39
SPEAKER_03: something good
32:41
they don't even have to be in the same room but they should
32:43
include KK Downing has
32:46
to be in this thing and he's gonna be but I'm wondering if it's
32:51
gonna be like when
32:52
he was at the Hall of Fame when he was on stage with them but
32:57
he was you know kept
32:58
away from everybody and they didn't let him walk in with the
33:02
band on the red carpet
33:03
and all that shit you know do you think they're gonna do that
33:07
again here we're just
33:08
SPEAKER_03: kind of
33:09
put in enough obligatory stuff to keep fans from bitching do
33:16
you think well I think
33:18
that well the thing is is that KK wasn't just a just a member
33:26
he was the founding
33:28
member how do you how do you do a documentary on Judas Priest
33:32
without the founding
33:34
SPEAKER_03: member yeah that's it meanwhile we're gonna get what we're gonna get
33:40
SPEAKER_03: we're gonna get Glenn Tipton looking like Michael J.
33:42
Fox you know all shaky and shit you know no one wants to really
33:48
honestly I don't
33:49
even want to see that and that's nothing that's not trying to
33:52
be an asshole about
33:54
it that's trying to be I don't want to see I don't want to see
33:57
one of my rock
33:58
SPEAKER_03: heroes being a fucking straight disaster do you?
34:03
SPEAKER_03: no but they're gonna prominently feature him and not K.K.
34:07
SPEAKER_03: Downing?
34:08
SPEAKER_03: what the fuck?
34:09
yeah they were the twin guitar attack yeah yeah I mean if
34:15
anything this is where
34:16
they could at least make peace on a personal level I'm getting
34:19
a room together and
34:20
fucking share stories with this documentary about the old days
34:25
what would be bad
34:26
about that that doesn't mean you got to invite him back into
34:28
the band you know
34:32
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
34:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean,
34:35
do you think that the Judas Priest camp is mad because he's out
34:39
there doing KK's
34:40
SPEAKER_03: Priest and he's doing it with Ripper?
34:43
SPEAKER_00: They could.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they look at him as being a competitor or something.
34:48
SPEAKER_03: Maybe, but I don't know.
34:51
SPEAKER_03: It just seems,
34:52
SPEAKER_03: especially,
34:53
SPEAKER_03: again,
34:53
SPEAKER_03: maybe I'm oversensitive about it because Ripper's my friend,
34:56
SPEAKER_03: but Ripper had a significant time in Judas Priest.
35:02
he wasn't there for five minutes he was there a long time and
35:08
several recordings
35:09
tons of touring I mean Jews Priest were touring Machine when he
35:12
was in the band
35:14
they were always on tour so I don't know I'm just I hate now
35:20
that all of these
35:22
bands are at the point where all they care about is their own
35:27
fucking bullshit and
35:29
SPEAKER_03: how much money are they going to make
35:31
and that's really what this is feeling like now is like this is
35:34
just a money grab
35:36
it's not going to be authentic it's going to be through the
35:40
eyes of 2026 Judas
35:42
Priest and not the history of Judas Priest right and that sucks
35:49
and on top of that
35:50
not for nothing but why the fuck are they is Judas Priest I
35:54
think it's this month
35:55
SPEAKER_03: releasing yet another greatest hits record
35:59
SPEAKER_03: Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?
36:00
SPEAKER_03: And I know that's not the band.
36:02
SPEAKER_03: I know that's probably Sony or whoever.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: Somebody who got licensing.
36:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm sure it's Sony.
36:10
SPEAKER_03: Weren't they a Sony band or a Columbia band or something?
36:13
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
36:14
SPEAKER_03: Whoever it was that they were on, that's who's putting it out, obviously.
36:18
SPEAKER_03: But do they not have veto power?
36:21
SPEAKER_03: How many greatest hits in live records is Judas Priest going to do?
36:25
SPEAKER_03: How many live records or greatest hits records do they have?
36:28
SPEAKER_03: At least three.
36:31
SPEAKER_03: Well, this one will be four.
36:33
SPEAKER_03: And really all you need to do,
36:35
SPEAKER_03: it's as good now as it ever was,
36:37
SPEAKER_03: is get that Metalworks one,
36:38
SPEAKER_03: the two-disc one.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, get that box set.
36:41
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the 73 to 93, that's the shit.
36:45
SPEAKER_03: That's all you need.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
36:49
SPEAKER_03: I'm just disgusted with Judas Priest.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get it.
36:53
just a frustrating frustrating story it really does suck well
37:00
it kind of reminds me
37:01
of CNN had done a documentary on the band Chicago called Now
37:09
More Than Ever yeah
37:11
and they didn't want to include their original founding member
37:15
drummer Danny
37:16
SPEAKER_03: Serafin yeah see why he was a member he was a founder
37:20
yeah and he was willing to do it but they tried to pretend like
37:24
he didn't even
37:25
exist yeah that's just stupid because you know they fired him
37:29
they fired him in
37:30
like 1989 or 1990 and uh same thing when he joined them at the
37:36
Rock and Roll Hall
37:37
SPEAKER_00: of Fame induction you know he played with them on stage but
37:43
he basically said the guys just snubbed him the whole time you
37:46
know he wanted to
37:48
you know kind of mend some fences and you know hopefully have
37:52
some kind of a
37:54
camaraderie with his the band that he started right and they
38:00
basically had didn't
38:01
SPEAKER_00: want anything to do with him yeah that's just crap
38:05
I'm so sick of these guys with their fucking business now and
38:09
their bullshit
38:11
SPEAKER_03: attitudes of like nothing exists except for the now.
38:18
SPEAKER_03: And Judas Priest,
38:20
SPEAKER_03: they're acting like nothing exists except for the Andy Sneap,
38:23
SPEAKER_03: Richie Faulkner era of the band.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: And nothing against either of those two.
38:27
SPEAKER_03: I think they're both fantastic.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: I really do.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: But let's be real.
38:33
how many people when this band eventually retires are going to
38:36
be like you know
38:36
what I really got to pull out Firepower and listen to that
38:41
great record but if
38:43
you're Judas Priest fan what are you doing you're going to
38:46
Screamin' for Vengeance
38:47
SPEAKER_03: or British Steel or Defenders of the Faith or Painkiller right?
38:53
yeah all the classic stuff yeah there's nobody saying you know
38:56
what I got to hear
38:57
SPEAKER_03: March of the Damned one more time I love that song
39:01
said nobody in the history of listening I mean come on it's
39:07
crazy well one more
39:10
story and then we'll take a very quick break so that the judge
39:13
can enter the
39:14
chamber so to speak but we'll stay right on this topic of
39:19
people with humongous
39:21
legacy that are just pissing on it and pissing on it of course
39:27
that's Van Halen
39:30
not bad enough that we got David Lee Roth out there like an ass
39:33
clown just terrible
39:38
and that's not bad enough but now we also have this feud
39:46
between Alex Van Halen and
39:50
basically everybody else that's ever been in the band now
39:54
you're aware of this Alex
39:56
SPEAKER_03: Van Halen project aren't you or are you
39:59
that he's doing with Steve Lukather no I was not aware the way
40:07
I understand it is
40:08
they're taking songs from the vault that were never finished or
40:12
never published or
40:13
whatever okay and Alex is polishing them up and doing whatever
40:19
he's doing with them
40:20
and then he's gonna have Steve Lukather step in and play all
40:24
the guitars okay
40:28
and everybody's up in arms about it because these a lot of this
40:32
stuff was you know
40:35
you know who wrote the stuff was not Alex Van Halen it was
40:39
Eddie and it's like all
40:42
right if the stuff wasn't good enough or if the guitar lines
40:45
aren't good aren't
40:45
recorded well enough to use then it should never be should
40:50
never be released and
40:52
even Lukather came out and said look if they want to call this
40:56
Van Halen I'm out
40:57
SPEAKER_03: because he does not want to be involved with...
41:02
He doesn't want to be in the middle of this fan nightmare
41:04
because the fans are
41:05
SPEAKER_03: going to lose their shit.
41:07
Don't you think whatever they call this,
41:08
the fans are not going to like it?
41:11
SPEAKER_03: No matter what it's called.
41:14
If it's called Alex Van Halen,
41:16
if it's called,
41:18
I don't know,
41:19
Fair Warning,
41:20
whatever.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
41:22
SPEAKER_03: Everybody's going to be pissed off about this thing.
41:25
It's going to be received in sort of the same way that Vinnie
41:29
Vincent is received.
41:31
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't even matter if it's good or not.
41:35
All the drama that's going into this is going to make this a
41:39
bad production.
41:42
but now you're adding on top of this now that it's being
41:44
discussed Wolfgang Van
41:46
Halen is nosing in on it Sammy Hagar is saying stuff about it
41:53
Michael Anthony is
41:55
throwing his words in it even Steve Lukather who said he's
41:58
going to do the project
42:00
is kind of like well I'll do it as long as they don't call it
42:03
this I don't want
42:06
SPEAKER_03: that stink on me but I mean let
42:12
SPEAKER_03: How am I going to put this?
42:15
SPEAKER_03: Why can't any of these guys,
42:19
SPEAKER_03: when the significant player in their band passes away,
42:25
SPEAKER_03: why can't they just let it go?
42:28
SPEAKER_03: It's done.
42:29
SPEAKER_03: It's over.
42:30
SPEAKER_03: It was spectacular.
42:31
SPEAKER_03: I mean, come on.
42:33
whether you like the Sammy era or the Sharon era or the Dave
42:37
era it doesn't really
42:38
matter it's very hard to argue that Van Halen were not one of
42:44
the most influential
42:48
SPEAKER_03: as well as great bands of all time is that fair to say?
42:52
Yeah they ushered in an era when when rock was for lack of a
43:00
better term was
43:02
almost dead yeah I mean they did something amazing they
43:07
launched the 80s they
43:10
reignited the interest in rock music yeah I mean without Van
43:15
Halen and I'll say
43:17
this and I know everybody knows I'm a Sammy guy but without
43:22
David Lee Roth era of
43:24
SPEAKER_03: Van Halen every 80s band that you love does not exist every one of
43:31
you don't have Dokken you don't have Rat you don't have Motley
43:35
you don't have Wasp
43:36
you don't have any of them they all took influence from Van
43:40
Halen and and that's
43:45
fine the you know you go into the Sammy era they went a
43:51
different direction
43:52
SPEAKER_03: musically but they still stayed on top they really didn't
43:57
like you know when Motley switched to John Karabi they fell
44:03
whether it was right or
44:03
wrong or whatever they fell dramatically when they switch
44:08
singers Van Halen even if
44:10
you hate Sammy Hagar's vocal it's hard to argue that they
44:14
missed they didn't miss a
44:16
beat if anything they got bigger because they got bigger they
44:20
got they played music
44:23
SPEAKER_03: that was a little bit more friendly
44:26
you know and it made them they just kept on going the only
44:33
other band I can think
44:34
of similar to the Van Halen trajectory is Aerosmith and
44:41
Aerosmith they had a slight
44:44
dip in there but not a huge dip and when they came back they
44:49
were bigger than they
44:50
ever were you know when they came back from permanent vacation
44:53
on they were a mega
44:56
SPEAKER_03: band
44:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because they were no longer just a dirty rock band.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: They were more mainstream.
45:03
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and while they didn't change singers, they did change sound.
45:08
If you listen to Toys in the Attic and then you listen to
45:12
Living on the Edge or
45:13
SPEAKER_03: whatever that album's called,
45:14
SPEAKER_03: Get a Grip.
45:15
If you listen to those two records,
45:17
those don't even sound like the same band.
45:20
SPEAKER_03: They really don't.
45:22
SPEAKER_03: But they just kept right on going.
45:27
you know Aerosmith had prior to prior to permanent vacation
45:34
Aerosmith had what one
45:36
ballad hit dream on did they have another one not really do we
45:42
call kings and
45:42
queens a ballad not really nah I mean it's slow but it's not
45:46
really a ballad they
45:48
had dream on and then they come back and they have angel then
45:54
they have you know um
45:57
you know that just that litany of them the Jamie's got a gun
46:02
and what was it crying
46:03
I was crying just to met you like all those with the videos
46:07
with Alicia Silverstone
46:08
they were all ballads you know they turned into a ballad band
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and it didn't affect
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them an ounce they just kept getting bigger and bigger and
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bigger same type of a
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SPEAKER_03: thing can you imagine if now that Steven Tyler's voice is all shitty if
46:28
Joe Perry was like we've got these old Aerosmith demos and
46:32
we're gonna put them out
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but I'm gonna have Gary Cherone sing them instead and we're not
46:38
gonna call it
46:39
Aerosmith we're gonna call it whatever get your get your wings
46:45
you know can you
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imagine the backlash that Joe Perry would get for doing such a
46:49
thing people would
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SPEAKER_03: be like get fucking Steven Tyler yeah
46:56
it's like why are you doing this yeah and if Steven Tyler
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unfortunately was to have
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passed away that's gotta be it and I know I sound like I'm
47:09
double talking maybe I
47:10
am a little bit but if Steven Tyler passes away there should
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never be another show
47:16
that is called Aerosmith now that Eddie Van Halen has passed
47:20
away there should
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never be another anything released or concert or anything
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called Van Halen
47:26
SPEAKER_03: Quite honestly,
47:28
SPEAKER_03: with Dimebag Darrell being dead,
47:31
SPEAKER_03: there should not be anything out there being called Pantera.
47:35
SPEAKER_03: It just shouldn't.
47:36
SPEAKER_03: There are certain guys in certain bands that mean more than the band.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: I know most of the time when we talk about this shit,
47:46
we always talk about band versus brand and that the brand is
47:49
more valuable than the
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SPEAKER_03: band.
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SPEAKER_03: I think the band...
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SPEAKER_03: the brand Van Halen has almost no value without Eddie Van Halen.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you agree with that?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think Aerosmith has no value without Steven Tyler.
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And to be honest,
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I don't think Pantera has any value without Dimebag Daryl.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, it has concert value, but...
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SPEAKER_03: I mean...
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and the saddest part is if Steve Lukather said he would go out
48:25
and play these songs
48:27
people would go what do you think a tour with Alex Van Halen
48:33
David Lee Roth Michael
48:36
Anthony and Steve Lukather would do I think it would sell out
48:42
sheds I think it
48:43
would do fine I think it might even be a stadium tour but it
48:50
shouldn't happen
48:52
just like right now I'll point to one that is mega huge that is
48:57
an embarrassment
48:58
the Eagles the Eagles should not be playing the biggest venues
49:04
they should not be
49:05
having residencies at the Sphere they should not be playing as
49:08
the Eagles the
49:10
Eagles are dead like legitimately dead they're either dead or
49:15
not in the band
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SPEAKER_03: anymore you know Glenn Frey I'm sorry but Glenn Frey was
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SPEAKER_03: was a cornerstone of that band, in my opinion.
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SPEAKER_03: Do you think he was?
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Yeah,
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well,
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I mean,
49:29
it really does boil down to Don Henley and Glenn Frey.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But I think Glenn...
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SPEAKER_03: I think a lot of people,
49:37
SPEAKER_03: because Henley had a bigger solo career,
49:40
SPEAKER_03: think that Glenn...
49:42
SPEAKER_03: or think that Henley was the more important player.
49:47
SPEAKER_03: I don't think so.
49:49
SPEAKER_03: I think Henley or Glenn Frey was...
49:53
at least an equal,
49:54
if not more valuable,
49:55
because he wrote so much more than Don Henley did.
49:59
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I keep seeing these things pop up,
50:04
SPEAKER_03: all of this bullshit that just should not be going on anymore.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: Van Halen is dead, both the guy and the band.
50:15
SPEAKER_03: So let it go.
50:18
SPEAKER_03: Just let it go.
50:20
be happy that you have had that career enjoy your 500 million
50:25
dollars if you want
50:27
to make music with the songs from your brother make them and
50:29
keep them for yourself
50:32
they don't the public doesn't need to hear every fucking beat
50:35
you ever put on a
50:36
drum you know we got Randy Trask and the Buds coming up to take
50:41
your place
50:44
There's no reason to have another guitarist come in and finish
50:49
your brother's work
50:51
No Because that's what made Van Halen was Eddie Van Halen's
50:55
guitar Yeah So how do
51:00
you recreate that or release music that was a demo that needs
51:08
guitars completed on
51:09
SPEAKER_00: it that isn't Eddie Van Halen
51:12
and you know how it's going to be received I'll tell you
51:14
exactly how it's going to
51:15
be received here's this new song that was a Van Halen demo that
51:19
has now been
51:20
finished by Alex Van Halen everybody's going to listen to it
51:24
and they're going to
51:24
listen to right to the guitar part and they're going to go that
51:27
doesn't sound like
51:28
Eddie Van Halen even if it does they're going to say that does
51:33
not sound like Eddie
51:34
SPEAKER_03: Van Halen this is shit it has zero chance of success zero
51:39
it'll sell they'll sell some commercially but it's not gonna
51:46
it's not gonna be
51:47
relevant or interesting and people are the backlash to this is
51:51
gonna be 80%
51:54
negative I honestly think 80% will be over judging it they
51:59
won't just listen to it
52:00
they'll be listening well Eddie never did that kind of a squeal
52:04
or Eddie never did
52:05
you know he he plucked instead of doing this or what you know
52:09
I'm not a guitar
52:10
player but you know it's just not gonna work it's the same with
52:14
the Pantera thing
52:16
if you go out online and you look at the Pantera reviews I mean
52:19
there's some decent
52:19
reviews but almost universally the reviews are Zach Wilde
52:23
sounds nothing like
52:25
SPEAKER_03: Dimebag Daryl like every single show that they play
52:30
SPEAKER_03: and you see a YouTube video,
52:32
SPEAKER_03: there'll be a thousand comments and 900 of them are like,
52:35
SPEAKER_03: Zach Wilde sucks,
52:36
SPEAKER_03: he doesn't play anything like Dimebag.
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you can't you're never gonna win so why do it why tarnish the
53:12
legacy that's why was
53:14
it last week or two weeks ago I was up in arms about the
53:17
fucking talking about
53:19
releasing a live album from Pantera yeah there's no reason for
53:24
it there's no reason
53:24
for it it's not Pantera it's like releasing a tribute band live
53:30
album go out and
53:32
find Randy's Paradise City recording and put that out there
53:36
what is the purpose of
53:37
SPEAKER_03: that
53:39
you know just let the bands die part of having a legacy is that
53:46
it lasts forever
53:47
when you don't tarnish it and all these guys at every level are
53:52
tarnishing their
53:53
legacy think about all the big bands right now they're all
53:56
tarnishing their legacy
53:58
SPEAKER_03: Van Halen Bon Jovi Pantera you know Aerosmith you know
54:06
is there anybody that was big in the 80's that is not out there
54:15
doing damage to
54:18
most people's memories of what they were no there aren't any
54:30
bands that are intact
54:33
SPEAKER_00: that called it a day yeah
54:36
none they go until the wheels fall off and I understand the
54:41
money's good but you
54:42
know what you should have saved some because no one wants to
54:47
see the shitty shell
54:48
of you you know I crack up with with the David Lee Roth because
54:53
we had the Roth
54:54
SPEAKER_03: video on YouTube this week yeah and it
55:01
you remember even like a year ago if we put up a Roth video it
55:05
was usually 50-50 it
55:07
was usually 50% of the people were like Roth never was a great
55:11
singer this is him
55:13
just impriving and that's when he's best remember we saw that
55:18
just over and over
55:19
and over and over and then there were the other guys that were
55:22
like us that were
55:22
like this is embarrassing just kill yourself quit you know
55:26
there was that and
55:29
this one this time is probably 80% negative it's all like this
55:35
is embarrassing this
55:36
guy should stop he even said he doesn't need the money so why
55:39
is he doing it why am
55:41
I watching Van Harlem you know there's like so many of these I
55:45
mean it's just
55:46
non-stop and it's like David look at your own reviews and
55:53
realize what you're doing
55:54
SPEAKER_03: to
55:56
your legacy as the most charismatic front man in the history of
56:02
music I think
56:04
that's a fair assessment of him from 78 to 88 nobody did it
56:14
better and nobody has
56:16
SPEAKER_03: sense maybe maybe Axl Rose
56:22
for that limited time at the beginning before he became a
56:25
pompous douchebag around
56:27
SPEAKER_03: Use Your Illusions part.
56:28
SPEAKER_03: Right.
56:29
But when he was doing,
56:30
when he came out the gate,
56:33
Axl seemed like he might be the next guy.
56:37
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
56:39
SPEAKER_03: The only other one I could think of,
56:40
SPEAKER_03: again,
56:41
SPEAKER_03: going back to the charismatic guys,
56:43
SPEAKER_03: is like Steven Tyler.
56:46
SPEAKER_03: Tyler is still the same dude.
56:49
SPEAKER_03: But, I don't know, they're just...
56:52
it's like they're intent on embarrassing themselves yep people
56:58
are throwing names
56:58
in Maiden yeah Maiden Maiden's not I'll give Maiden credit they
57:03
still sound pretty
57:04
good and they still put on a hell of a live show but they're
57:08
not their last two or
57:10
three or four albums have all been forgettable you know they're
57:14
not very good you
57:15
SPEAKER_03: know Book of Souls and Final Frontier and these are very marginal albums
57:22
for them you know the last the last really great one that they
57:25
did to me was Dance
57:26
to Death to most people is Brave New World Metallica too look
57:31
you guys all know I
57:32
love Metallica I really do and here's where all the fucking
57:35
YouTube dickwads will
57:36
say see there's Chris beating on Metallica again but it's it's
57:42
hard to not agree
57:44
SPEAKER_03: that like 72 seasons was not nearly as good as
57:52
I don't want to go back to the classic stuff 72 Seasons was not
57:57
nearly as good as
57:59
Hardwired Hardwired was a way better record the one was the
58:04
other one that they did
58:05
after more recently with The Coffin Death Magnetic was way
58:12
better than 72 Seasons
58:16
SPEAKER_03: way better I don't know it just
58:22
I wonder if our parents did this with their bands I really do I
58:26
don't think so you
58:27
don't think you don't think they were like man what is Elvis
58:29
doing you know because
58:31
the internet has allowed us to to see the latest and the
58:37
greatest of what people
58:39
are doing you know when people when other you know the old days
58:44
when bands and
58:46
SPEAKER_00: artists were touring
58:48
the only way you knew that they were coming to town was it was
58:51
either on the radio
58:52
or it was in the newspaper right but you didn't get to see
58:55
their performances on a
58:57
video somewhere true that is true by the way back to Metallica
59:02
for a minute while
59:03
I'm bashing a 1700 minute reissue of fucking Reload that is as
59:15
unnecessary as
59:16
SPEAKER_03: anything I can think of
59:17
yeah I know I saw that announced the other day 1700 minutes
59:24
what the fuck no one I
59:28
bet they didn't have 1700 minutes of that album that album was
59:33
garbage no one likes
59:34
that record most people look at that record like there's like
59:39
two good songs on it
59:41
SPEAKER_03: it's not a great record those guys are a little bit
59:46
not a little bit a ton full of themselves anymore they just
59:50
believe everything that
59:51
they shit out is good because they'll look at the 1700 minute
59:57
reissue of this this
59:58
is after what was the what was the um load was like 16 discs or
1:00:06
something wasn't it
1:00:07
the load reissue I mean do we need 3000 minutes of music from
1:00:14
load and reload
1:00:17
SPEAKER_03: That's a lot of music How long would it take to listen to that?
1:00:22
Two albums that weren't even good That most people acknowledge
1:00:26
were not good What
1:00:28
SPEAKER_03: are they going to do when they come up to fucking St.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_03: Anger?
1:00:33
SPEAKER_03: Are they going to give us 3,000 minutes of that?
1:00:37
SPEAKER_03: Are we going to get a 43 disc box set of Lulu?
1:00:41
SPEAKER_03: I mean just stop For God's sakes just stop
1:00:49
but again this is what I'm talking about they all tarnish their
1:00:52
legacy I think
1:00:53
Metallica's tarnishing their legacy by doing this it's like we
1:00:57
all spent our money
1:00:58
SPEAKER_03: we all bought these dog albums I bought Load I bought Reload I bought St.
1:01:03
Anger I bought Lulu bought every one of them you know even in
1:01:07
an era where I don't
1:01:08
have to buy them I still bought I bought Death Magnetic I
1:01:12
bought 72 Seasons I
1:01:15
SPEAKER_03: bought um
1:01:17
hardwired I bought them all and I'm a guy that does not buy
1:01:22
music I really don't
1:01:25
that's how much I respect Metallica but I'm not going to buy
1:01:27
any of these fucking
1:01:28
reissues even of the good albums I'm just not going to do it
1:01:33
and the same with this
1:01:34
Alex as much as I like Van Halen which is a lot I got zero
1:01:38
interest in this zero I
1:01:42
SPEAKER_03: do not want to hear demos finished by the guy from Toto
1:01:48
I just don't you know and that's nothing against Steve Lukather
1:01:53
tremendous musician
1:01:54
one of the probably one of the 50 greatest musicians ever when
1:01:58
you when you
1:01:59
calculate the greatness of the work by the volume that he did
1:02:04
yeah and you probably
1:02:05
have heard Steve Lukather on a lot of songs and albums and you
1:02:09
didn't even know it
1:02:10
was him yeah oh certainly because he's played on like 3000
1:02:13
albums you know but I
1:02:16
SPEAKER_03: don't want to hear that
1:02:18
and I don't think anybody I don't think any Van Halen fan wants
1:02:21
to hear that do you
1:02:23
you're a Van Halen fan yeah it's not necessary yeah it's all
1:02:27
crap but alright
1:02:31
anyway enough ranting and raving about this go buy it if you
1:02:37
want it I guess
1:02:38
whenever it comes out do what you're gonna do yeah pal yeah pal
1:02:45
so that's that
1:02:46
SPEAKER_03: alright alright
1:02:49
one song and then we'll come back two songs and we'll come back
1:02:52
all right two songs
1:02:53
we come back all right wow it's already quarter after that's
1:02:58
why I was saying one
1:02:59
song that's like holy shit I don't have time for what we wanted
1:03:03
to do yeah one
1:03:04
song's fine all right one song and we'll come right back all
1:03:07
right I got a request
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