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S6 E8: Defensive Shift · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen, the crazy you can see your breath.
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  Speaker 2: Out in the lake effect, breaking.
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  Speaker 1: Tables like guitar wol Tree, where else would you have
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  Speaker 1: to be? And to Ron Elvis in the Ley panchow,
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  Speaker 1: the members that you need to know. Why don't you
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  Speaker 1: out here now? Your family? Where's would you have to be?
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  Speaker 3: Where would you have?
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Crippen.
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  Speaker 4: Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram
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  Speaker 4: and Twitter at nicol City Crew. This episode, along with
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  Speaker 4: all of our episodes, are presented by Crippen Legacy Entertainment
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  Speaker 4: here on Spreaker and stream Yard. We're so glad that
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  Speaker 4: you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills and
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  Speaker 4: NFL content again today, and as always, these are my
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  Speaker 4: Bill's thoughts said out loud.
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  Speaker 1: It survived so ridiculous? Say three was six? Shout? I
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  Speaker 1: can let us from Where's what you want to be?
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get straight to it. Really excited for
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  Speaker 4: tonight's episode. Uh, it's funny because you know we did
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  Speaker 4: the offensive preview last week. Shout out to Nack Geary
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  Speaker 4: and Fernando Schmood who helped us you know, kind of
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  Speaker 4: just chopped through everything and it was a really great
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  Speaker 4: episode that flowed well, and listening back, I just thought
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  Speaker 4: that we hit on all the major points.
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  Speaker 1: Well. We flipped the side of the ball. Tonight, it's
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  Speaker 1: defense and time it's time to talk about the defense.
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  Speaker 4: New defensive head coordinator Jim Leonard leads this defense and
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna see.
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  Speaker 1: What we got. I mean, there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: to chop up.
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  Speaker 4: TGIF joining me tonight as always my co host writing Shotgun,
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  Speaker 4: Adam Dump Truck Sick. Check about on Instagram and Twitter
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  Speaker 4: at Adam Rupsick, r u p c z yk holl
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  Speaker 4: at the crew DT.
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  Speaker 1: What's good? DT? You look you looking good with the
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  Speaker 1: golf shirt, sunshine and how light the crew? Nickel City?
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  Speaker 3: What's up?
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  Speaker 5: Rob?
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  Speaker 6: Happy Friday again? Two weeks in a row, different location
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  Speaker 6: for DT and Nickel City crew.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to it. We'll get to it.
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  Speaker 6: But happy to be here. Other side of the ball.
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  Speaker 6: Everybody talks about one seven. I go to the practice
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  Speaker 6: on Tuesday. Every single person, forty one thousand of them
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  Speaker 6: had a seventeen jersey on.
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  Speaker 1: So it's time talk defense.
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  Speaker 6: We've gotta play that side of the ball too, and
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  Speaker 6: it's led us down the last seven years. So excited
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  Speaker 6: to get into it tonight. Rob Happy Friday.
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  Speaker 4: What's up baby, I'm good man, tgif Man, I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: We had two great guests for you last week. We're
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  Speaker 4: hitting you with another headbanger tonight. Listen you DT I
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  Speaker 4: told you, man, I've told Nichol City Crew. I love
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  Speaker 4: these Twitter spaces. I love getting into it. I love,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kind of practicing my takes and different things
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  Speaker 4: like that. Two guys have really stood out to be
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  Speaker 4: in respect to just their football acumen, the way that
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  Speaker 4: they see the game, different things like that. Again, Nichol
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  Speaker 4: City Who. We're not looking for echo chamber or anything
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  Speaker 4: like that. But sometimes when you you pick up on
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  Speaker 4: a couple of things that some guys saying, you're like,
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  Speaker 4: you know what this this dude knows his ball. We've
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  Speaker 4: got two for you tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 4: Check him out on twit Twitter at chance. That's j
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  Speaker 4: A n c E seven to one six, my boy,
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  Speaker 4: Jeric hall Halla at the crew.
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  Speaker 1: Jeric.
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  Speaker 4: Really really happy to have you here, man. I've been
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  Speaker 4: I've been enjoying our interactions for the last few months. Really,
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  Speaker 4: it's been about it almost a year now, I've been
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  Speaker 4: on those spaces Jerk Howa at the crew.
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  Speaker 3: What's good Man, what's going on? Yeah, I finally got
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  Speaker 3: a camera to work. But what's going on, guys?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Man, excited to be here. Rosman. Uh you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Rosman trying to get me on this thing for a
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  Speaker 3: minute while.
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  Speaker 1: You know, again, should have been on our.
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  Speaker 3: Last week, but you know, we had some technical difficulties,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So I'm glad that we can get on here.
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  Speaker 3: We can just start and start chop it on me.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: I really appreciate your time. And also another brother that
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  Speaker 4: I really enjoyed. You know, this cat, a Florida cat,
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  Speaker 4: loves the gamble, loves to do his thing, and I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I I just some of his takes. I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I just like him. So where I reached out to him,
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  Speaker 4: told him that I had to find a way to
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  Speaker 4: get him on the show. And I really do appreciate
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  Speaker 4: his time as well. You could check him out on
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  Speaker 4: Twitter at Sherm geez a ho at.
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  Speaker 1: The Creuse Sherm. My man.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, it's good to finally link up and get you
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  Speaker 4: on the show. Just like Jared I'm really happy to
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  Speaker 4: have you tonight. It's been a long time coming, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm happy to have you.
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  Speaker 1: Man, What's what's good?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 1: I let the crew man teacher.
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  Speaker 3: Let's wantsh to having a great jersey for it? Man
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  Speaker 3: At it came out in style, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: But it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I'm at the all just chill him and actually while
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  Speaker 2: I do my work, you know what I mean. I
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  Speaker 2: got a couple of things going on, but I've been
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  Speaker 2: you know, just I got to hire me soon. I'm
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  Speaker 2: ready to be the scout.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I'm gonna let him know
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  Speaker 3: what they need to do on some of these ross decisions.
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  Speaker 7: So I'm happy that we're talking defense because that's really
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  Speaker 7: what I, you know, want to focus on.
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  Speaker 1: So I was I was excited to hear about that.
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  Speaker 3: But shout out DT, what's the Rob and Jeric.
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  Speaker 1: As always absolute? Man, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I just love that nicol Citi crew can bring different
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  Speaker 4: fans together and we can kind of chop it up.
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  Speaker 1: Now listen, no time to waste spellas.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting because you know, I named the episode of
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  Speaker 4: the way that I did because we have been coming
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  Speaker 4: off of nine years of you know, Sean McDermott, we've
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  Speaker 4: been coming off nine years of a certain style, a
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  Speaker 4: certain specific way that he likes to coach. And it
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  Speaker 4: was interesting DT, because when I looked at it and
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  Speaker 4: I thought back on these last nine years, I thought
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  Speaker 4: of something that I had heard. I think it was
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  Speaker 4: like Ben Solak or something like that, and said in
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  Speaker 4: recent time, he said, you know, Sean McDermott is like
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  Speaker 4: a picture that he just throws what he throws and
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't really have a change up. He doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: have an off speed pitch. But he throws what he
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  Speaker 4: throws and he's good at it and he's solid, but
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  Speaker 4: he really doesn't have an off speed. And it was
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  Speaker 4: interesting because and that was last year I heard that
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  Speaker 4: in the in the offseason, I was like, Man, that
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  Speaker 4: really does describe McDermott. Well, he's He was like novacane DT, Ben,
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  Speaker 4: but don't break, Ben, but don't break. And we talked
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  Speaker 4: about a DT it has its merits, but like it
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  Speaker 4: just it just seemed like in the playoffs that let
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  Speaker 4: us down. And I really I just I'm embracing change, man.
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  Speaker 4: To be honest with DT, I'm embracing change. It's different,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be different, and it's something that works
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  Speaker 4: out well for the bills.
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  Speaker 1: Are you mute to dt he Lord have mercy? Jeric?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what's going on. They just trying,
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  Speaker 4: They're trying to they trying to bog us up tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Man. What are some of the differences that you see?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think that Ben but Don't Break was it
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  Speaker 4: had its merits, but I think that it ran its
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  Speaker 4: course and I'm really really ready for a change. I
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  Speaker 4: think the change was welcome. I think that it's time
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  Speaker 4: and I can't really I can't really scoff at it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well, first of all, that's what that's McDermott hacking
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  Speaker 4: in we we we. That's that's him trying to throw
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  Speaker 4: covers it to hack in. But no, Like, I think
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  Speaker 4: the difference is that leonards a little bit more aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: He's more straightforward.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little less, it's a little less read and react,
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  Speaker 3: a little less pre a little less you know, kind
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  Speaker 3: of predetermined with the defense like this is definitely it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a more aggressive style of defense. We're gonna
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  Speaker 3: see a lot more different style of our variations We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna see a lot more paso which is basically a
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  Speaker 3: two four five, or a little which is basically just
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  Speaker 3: a two four five. We're gonna see different variations of
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  Speaker 3: a of of the three four. We're gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: lot more aggressive. I can see a lot more three twos.
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  Speaker 3: I can see a lot more you know, three two six,
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  Speaker 3: A lot more cub looks, a lott more kind of
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  Speaker 3: money looks. I mean, I think we're gonna see a
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  Speaker 3: different uh, pretty much. The thing that I like to
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  Speaker 3: comparably to talk about is McDermott in week five, Week
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  Speaker 3: six against Carolina and against Kansas City, when we have
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  Speaker 3: Michael Waite. We were running we were literally using a
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  Speaker 3: base three four in those particular games, and we were
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  Speaker 3: running so many different style of hybrid formations or hybrid
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  Speaker 3: you know, hybrid stunt variations. Michael Hoyight is the one
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  Speaker 3: that is calling the key stunts, and we're running a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of texts and mechs and a bunch of different twists,
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  Speaker 3: uh sort of variations concepts I mean we had, I
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  Speaker 3: mean we were I mean we were running double mug
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  Speaker 3: with Javon Solomon and Michael Hoyt both both in the
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  Speaker 3: a gap and it was, you know, so we weren't like,
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  Speaker 3: when was the last time running basically dog looks which
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  Speaker 3: is basically just a five man look Like, when was
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  Speaker 3: the last time of running heavy five six man looks?
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  Speaker 3: When was the last time we're crowding in the box
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  Speaker 3: running and running a little bit more of a six
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  Speaker 3: to one like it's it's, it's it's stuff like that
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  Speaker 3: that were quite that. I'm still scratching my head around.
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  Speaker 3: Was like, Bro mcgermot, why didn't you do this before?
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  Speaker 3: Like we had all these bunch of years and we
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  Speaker 3: haven't run the stuff since Lorenzo Alexander. So a lot
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  Speaker 3: of our stuff is just base four three, four two
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  Speaker 3: five with Tarron Johnson playing as basically a box linebacker.
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  Speaker 3: And so now that Jim Leonard, I think the good thing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, for for Bill's fans that loved that style
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  Speaker 3: of what we saw in Week five and Week six,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna get it this year. But this particular season,
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  Speaker 3: Tero Bernard literally had to relearn it. I mean again,
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  Speaker 3: he's not relearning as What people don't know is that
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  Speaker 3: Jim Leonard is a disciple of Dave Randa de Randa
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  Speaker 3: is a disciple of It is a disciple of of
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  Speaker 3: of of Wilcox, of Jeff Wilcox, who was one of
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  Speaker 3: the best, He was one of the best defensive UH
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  Speaker 3: innovators like him, him, Bob Ryan or the Ryan family
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  Speaker 3: when they were running that modern style of three four
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  Speaker 3: that's where that's where Jim Leonard comes from. And so
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  Speaker 3: you know, we all know his story was with that.
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  Speaker 3: Denver obviously Denver has ties to Dave Randa has ties
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  Speaker 3: to that different style. So we're gonna get a lot
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  Speaker 3: more aggressive, a lot more less thinking, a lot more straightforward.
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  Speaker 3: And we even heard Jim Lennard's comments when he was
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  Speaker 3: like talking to to Robinard, when he's basically saying tro
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  Speaker 3: Bernard is like one of the smartest linebackers, smartest IQ's
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  Speaker 3: I've ever been around, but he thinks too much. And
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  Speaker 3: that's because the last regime, pretty much it was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the stuff was just read and it was
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  Speaker 3: just predetermined beat player to the particular spot. Uh if
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  Speaker 3: if if some player like we were like, were run
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  Speaker 3: a lot of match a lot of match principles, and
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  Speaker 3: so it was just a lot of thinking. And so
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  Speaker 3: this is a defense that's gonna be a little bit
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  Speaker 3: completely different. We're gonna run a lot more different stump
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  Speaker 3: very I think he's still gonna be more involved because
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  Speaker 3: he's one of the smartest players in terms of calling
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  Speaker 3: particular uh, in terms of calling out particular offensive line
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  Speaker 3: protections and then using those stunt variations to our advantage.
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  Speaker 3: I think against Robinard is still gonna be the commander
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  Speaker 3: in chief, but he's not going to have to think
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  Speaker 3: as much. He's just gonna attack and go Dorrian Williams
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  Speaker 3: is gonna attack and go uh. Caleb Ellens Or his
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  Speaker 3: job is going to attack, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: So what I'm really really excited for is that we
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of versatile pieces that don't really like
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's that there is one player in
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  Speaker 3: this defense that has a true position. I think everyone,
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  Speaker 3: every person on this defense are have multiple different spots.
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  Speaker 3: You can play man Dean Walker, who everyone keeps saying
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna be the next to Vita Vea. He doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have a true position. His best position is when he
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  Speaker 3: plays more as a four eye or as a four
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  Speaker 3: maybe even further than that. That's his best position. But
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  Speaker 3: because of how unique of a side. And how you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know pretty much how much he's of a genetic freak.
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  Speaker 3: Is he can play with Dancing Bear exactly? He's he
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  Speaker 3: can play everywhere. So at Oliver the same situation, he's
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  Speaker 3: not just a four eye. He can play many different
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  Speaker 3: alignments and still dominate the fight despite the fact that
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  Speaker 3: he's undersized. We saw Lannon Jackson, we thought, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we buffed him up all of a sudden now, but
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  Speaker 3: guess what, He's playing a seven role. He's playing a
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  Speaker 3: seven roles in edge, but he's also playing four eye.
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  Speaker 3: So every single player within this defense has such a
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  Speaker 3: unique role. You're not gonna be stagnant. You're playing different positions,
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  Speaker 3: and that means a lot of different a lot of
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  Speaker 3: different disguise, looks, different stuff, variations, different you know, how
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  Speaker 3: you can you know, how we can show our blizzes,
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  Speaker 3: how we can disguise our blizzes, how we can disguise
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  Speaker 3: our coverages, How we can run a lot of split
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  Speaker 3: how we can run a lot of split field, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of split field coverage. So many different things. Again,
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  Speaker 3: I I don't want to take too much time, but
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  Speaker 3: so many different things that I believe that Jim Leonard
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  Speaker 3: is going to run based off of what we saw
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  Speaker 3: from Denver, based off we see from Deever Randon for
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  Speaker 3: when he was at Baylor and Jeff Wilcox and so
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  Speaker 3: on and so forth. It's gonna be more of a hybrid,
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  Speaker 3: solid defense. And so I'm excited to see that and
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  Speaker 3: to see the overall philosophy completely change compared to what
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  Speaker 3: we saw from McDermott, which was let's be honest, stagnant
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  Speaker 3: until the end. To what we get now, I think
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  Speaker 3: is gonna be a nine day difference, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 3: to see it.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, past the blood, past the blood, Jered, past
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  Speaker 4: the blood, mon like, come on now, listen. It's funny because,
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  Speaker 4: like I think, I agree with a lot of what
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  Speaker 4: you said, and I'm really excited to see the differences
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  Speaker 4: because I think that there's a situation where maybe there's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just different things that we weren't able to do,
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  Speaker 4: or weren't or McDermott was unwilling to do. And you
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  Speaker 4: kind of spoke to that, you know, sher, you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of piggybacking off of Jeric. I'm interested to know
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  Speaker 4: what are some of the things that you think might
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  Speaker 4: be different because when I look at ben Bok don't break.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, it had its merits between the twenties
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that, but now we're in a situation
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  Speaker 4: where there's going to be more risk, and anytime you
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  Speaker 4: have more risk, then obviously there's more reward that could
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  Speaker 4: be on the line as well.
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  Speaker 1: I expect us to get.
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  Speaker 4: Beat sometimes term, but I also expect us to get
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  Speaker 4: you know, those turnovers and some of those things that
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  Speaker 4: were the tenth poles of you mcdermot's defenses.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, he did turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he did force turnovers for that defense, but
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  Speaker 4: it was a situation where, like I said, playoff time,
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  Speaker 4: at crunch time, it just wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 1: It just wasn't enough.
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  Speaker 7: I would say, you know, I'm piggyback off of much
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  Speaker 7: of what Jared said. The problem is is that you know,
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  Speaker 7: when we look at some of the things that Sean
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  Speaker 7: McDermott is getting credit for, right, and when you're looking
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  Speaker 7: in and you say, okay, well, the Bill's defense is
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  Speaker 7: statistically ranked in these things, what I like to do
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  Speaker 7: is go beyond and let's get into the actual what
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  Speaker 7: what Let's just cut it down the wear once first,
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  Speaker 7: of all, the first thing that we have to do
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  Speaker 7: is stop the fucking team on third and one.
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  Speaker 3: Ex he's my language, no, and I mean I'm like
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  Speaker 3: one is not a guinea that would be pleasant, right,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't care. We we can talk about who's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be where, Like we're gonna need Deon Walker to
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  Speaker 3: be that big body in the middle. Yes, he is
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  Speaker 3: better aligned outside. We know that because he's a lot quicker,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't have that big strength, right, So you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have that Denver Bronco mentality where it was mixed
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  Speaker 3: and match. Is basically what Jared's getting at is each
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  Speaker 3: one of those guys is plug and play. Now you're
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  Speaker 3: hoping you can get that one on one with Ed
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  Speaker 3: if Dion can eat to table. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: Like he needs to get two blockers on it, so
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  Speaker 3: that could start. That's number one, number two, third and
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  Speaker 3: one sounds so so simple, so simple. Let's go to
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  Speaker 3: the next simple part. Do you guys know that the
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  Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills are one of two teams that made the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs that missed one hundred and fifty two tackles one
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty tackles last year? Okay, so that's these
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: are real like instead of pulling it back and people
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: want to say, well, we don't know what to expect
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: from this bill's defense, right.
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: What we do know is is if we get a
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: little bit better on a couple of things on third down,
• 16:12
  Speaker 7: we're in the bottom third of the league.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: This is consistency like, this isn't This isn't like something.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: It shouldn't be rocket science to anybody.
• 16:20
  Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, you know, you get people who
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: are saying, and I think it was McDermott's best effort
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: for a second half.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So if he wants to come in and coach second
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: half and something, that's fun. But for me and and
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I beat this drum a lot. But you have to
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: think about on third down as a whole. We don't
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: get off the field.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: We just didn't.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: It was it was something that was was was something
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: so bad. And here here's a fun one for you
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: real quick. You want to talk about defense. We trailed
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: in over four I think it was nine of the
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: games we were trailing at halftime. That can't you hear
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: about this? This is defensive problems. Those are points, right,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: regardless of how they were got you know they weren't
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: turnover prone going into the Houston game.
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: I like to do a lot of things, and one
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: of the things I like to look at is is, Okay,
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: we have a scramble percentage and an expected points or whatever.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: Josh is scrampled like he gets out of stuff. So
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: you got to realize it doesn't matter what we're putting
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: ourselves into. Yes, you're gonna have a bonehead play once
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: or twice, but the defense cannot give up the little
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: things and it's small and it's fundamentals. It's just fundamentals
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: and winning. You gotta win a couple of times. So
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: I don't know if regression is even capable.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I don't like well.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jim Leonard did kind of warn us and
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: say that he doesn't have all the pieces, and I
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: think that he was kind of trying to temper expectations,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: and we talked about that a little bit last week.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: So I don't know necessarily what to expect early on,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: but I do think that I do think that down
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: the road he's gonna have the pieces that he needs
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: because and I could give him that grace is that
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: maybe he doesn't have all of the pieces sum that
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: he needs right now.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Again, I think pieces aside, you can still look at
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: fundamentals coaching matters coaching. You know, I wasn't here for
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: the offensive side of things, but I'll just say there
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: are certain things I don't care if I'm coaching.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: In the game.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: You know, you got thirteen nineteen seconds on the clock.
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: You kneel the damn ball, right, you do?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I mean there has to be somebody listen you. You
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: do certain things that you have to do. One thing
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you about Jim Leonard, He's a fundamental would
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: what would what would they call him? In high school?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: He's a he's a coach on the field, he's a
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: he's a he's a fundamental warrior.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He's the same thing said.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, And that's that's what it is.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: You know that you're gonna do the little things right.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And if you watch some of these practices and you
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: watch the preseason game, what are they doing. They're following
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: through You see tackles being made all the way. You're
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: not going to see this armed nonsense. I'm sorry, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: got to watch my language, but I'm just saying, you
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: don't get wrapping up following through cornerbacks coming through, you
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: may not be able to get the interception. But in
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: the McDermott defense, I saw Dan Jackson get hitting the
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: head with the damn ball three damn times in the
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: back of the head. Put your hand up like you
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: know the receiver news even.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I know to do that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: So, like Jim Lettard's going to have the little things right,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: it's the little little things. And that's the difference in
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: a buffalo Bill's succeeding or and and and so let's
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: get back to one thing real quick. He said he
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: doesn't have the pieces, and I do want to address
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: some of the things.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Well, he kind of said that, I'm just using his words.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I think temper expectations just to say people are
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: going to be learning as they go, right, And I
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: say that all the time. People are going to be
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: that with a new scheme, there's going to be a
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: couple of gaps, is what he's trying to prepare you for.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: In other words, when you're getting those different looks that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Jared's talking about, or that you're wanting to see that
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: pressures right, you're not really going to get more of
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: a blitzing defense. If anyone thinks that they're they're wrong.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: You're getting a different odd man. Look, you're getting an
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: overload on one side and maybe Russo drops into coverage.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: So that's where you're gonna have the growing things because
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: it's not gonna be hand in the dirt head and
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: straight to the quarterback. It's gonna be hesitate, comeback right,
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: and and that's certain things.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I think we have the cerebral linebacker and Bernard he's
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: got to get better on his tackling as well.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: But flipping that roster. Flipping that roster is oh, because
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: speed is not what we're looking for. It's Conor McGregor
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: says it best. Precision beats power, timing beat speed. These
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: guys get on the same page, you're gonna win. You're
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: gonna win.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: It's interesting because Sharon brings up some points and so
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: did to Jerk that, you know, I'm interested to know
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: like what I don't know, DT, Like I think that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: we're in a situation where it's it's gonna be different.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a situation where we're not it's not,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you know, necessarily what.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: We're used to seeing. But I think that I'm I'm
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: embracing the change DT because of the playoff losses.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: And that's me. That's me personally.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to put that on on on anybody else,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: but like for me, Bill's Boffia and Nickel City Crew.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I think that when you do the same thing for
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: nine years and then you become predictable, so to speak,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: where your opponents know what to expect. Everybody knows what
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: to expect from a Sean mctermoc defense, I feel like
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: it's a breath of fresh air where maybe you don't
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: know now, I don't know how much you know.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: SHRM could be right.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe we don't blitz as much that we think that
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: they're gonna blitzer, whatever the case may be. But I
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: still think that there's gonna be wrinkles in this new
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: defense DT before you dropped out where.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just think that they could
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: be a positive.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Like I don't look at change as negative when it
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: comes to Jim Lettard to this new defense. You whip me, DT,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: You're killing me. Tonight you whip me DT. You frozen,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: You're killing me. I don't know, man, Listen as we
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: transition and DT will try to oh there you go,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: you good, you back. It's Jeric is right, it's fucking McDermott,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: and it's cronies. They are trying to fuck the shit up.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: They are trying to fuck up anything that goes on
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: with We're trying to move away from the McDermott defense.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So it's funny.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Listen, Jared, I'm interested because when I look at it
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: starting from the defensive line going forward, and it was
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: interesting because I was a big fan of Kate McDonald
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: and I thought that the Bills were going to draft
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: from then they draft IGV and you know, kind of
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: threw a monkey wrench at everybody's draft plans. Not everybody,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: but a lot of people were thinking that we were
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: targeting defensive tackle, a true nose. And now you've got
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: the vidavea stuff that obviously simmered down with him resigning.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Is everything okay on the defensive line, Jared, in respects
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: to you talked about multiple positions, You talked about guys
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: playing different roles. We've got that dancing bear who looks
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: great and looks like he's poised for a great come out.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I'm just wondering if everything can
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: gel within year one where we can make an impact
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: because there's a lot of different movie parts, like you
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: spoke about.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be better than it was last year.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: It just it has to be because I think last
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: year on the defensive line was a complete and utter disaster. However, yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: it's gonna have growing pains. I don't think we have
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the death compared to and I'm just comparing it to
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: like the Seahawks. We don't have the Seahawks defensive line.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: We don't have a three to four man rotation like
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: they do. We don't have the Eagles defensive line. We
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: don't have the Rams. We don't like we don't have
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: the Rams. I don't even think we have the Browns.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Like d line rotation, the Browns decackle rotation is really
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: freaking good. So I don't think that we're like top
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: ten in terms of defensive line rotation edges. I mean,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, and you can see too, like there's a
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: reason why you picked up great gains, you picked up
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: great gangs because outside of Dion Walker and again for Darien,
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: maths is suspended. But what like you like, we need
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: run defenders, We need guys that when we go into
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: those type fronts when we go into those mint fronts
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: when you have your your party typical zero or if
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: you go like your zero, like do we have the players?
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Do we have the the players and the rotation necessary
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: for us to be successful? And so like that's that's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: the question. Like you pick up Greg Gaines because Greg
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Gaines has some familiarity of being within a defense like this.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: He did I think with Todd Bowles in twenty twenty. No,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: he wasn't on that team, but still like he's he has,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: he has been on he has been on this thing before,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I think with the Rams. So uh you know that's
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: why you kind of pick him up. And not to
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: mention too he can he does have even more uh
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: way more quality at stopping the run than Dwayne Carter,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: so you know, and and then even then like gregor Rousseau,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Gregor Rousseau is now you like what we're like dropping
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: him back in the like we're gonna he is gonna
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: drop back in the coverage. Briley Chubb is gonna drop
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: back in the coverage. You know, it's it's it's it's
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: gonna be different a lot. Hopefully it's not gonna be
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: a lot, but yeah, like if we start to but yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: we're gonna run. Yeah, but just like the amount of
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: looks that we're gonna show, Yeah, you're gonna have situations
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: like that and therefore so yeah, I mean we'll figure
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: out well, I mean, we'll see what happens. But overall
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: wise like this, it's we're gonna have our growing pains.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I like it's and I want I want to be
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: shocked if it's early. My expectation hopefully is that we
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: pick things up in the second half to maybe even
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the playoffs or maybe in the start. But you know, yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: like it's gonna, it's gonna happen. I just think more
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: from a death perspective is where I think is gonna.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I think is where it's gonna show his head again.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: You picked up Greg Gangs, You try to buff up
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Dwayne carter by, you know, by adding ten or fifteen
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: pounds that he can still again he's a three tech
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: that you're trying to play the more of an inside chain.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: He's undersized, and he just he just doesn't have them die. Well,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we're gonna have our growing pains, but overall, overall,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: if we can stay as long as we can stay healthy,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: which that's the key word is health, which we haven't
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: been staying healthy in more these spots that I think
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: this defense is gonna be fine, but I think, yeah,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: once injuries do start the pile, if it does happen,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: hopefully doesn't, it's gonna test everything out. And that's obviously
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, I would I wouldn't be shocked
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: mid season if the Buffalo Bills continue to make trades
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: to to try to address that spot.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Shuram, Before we get to Sharam, DT, are you good?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Can you hear me? Are you back?
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: I want I want your insights, man, I mean, you're
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: killing me right now that we got guests at the
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: house and you you just you fucking up. Listen, DT,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I want to know what your opinion is on the changes,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: on on the differences that we're going to see.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Ben but Don't Break is over. It is the death
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: of Ben but Don't Break.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: And I think that again because it had its merits,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: we suffered through it and it was yes between.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: The twenties, McDermott was great.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: I'm worried DT in respects to the fact that I
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: don't know that if everybody is prepared for how different
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: it's going to look DT And I also simultaneously, I
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: don't think that that change is bad. I don't think
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: that different and new and change is bad. And I
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: think that everybody just needs to buckle up. We might
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: give up some bigger plays then you might normally see
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: over the top and we'll talk about the linebackers in
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: the secondary in a minute. But like I think that
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be a trade off where it's gonna be
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: worth it in the endt it's gonna be worth it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: Well, it's worth it in the divisional fourth quarter, you know,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: in that last play on the third and long when
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: we need to stop.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And that's something we haven't ever gotten.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Right, So if we do give up some plays you
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: know in the in the season that we usually didn't
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: because it isn't Ben don't break anymore. That's what we
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: talked about, the fundamental piece, right, that's gonna make up
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: for a lot of the things. If we do let
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: up a big play, well, we're not gonna let up
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: that rush on third and eight because we're making the
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: tackle in the backfield when we should have. So that's
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: where it comes down to. And seventeen is never worried
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: about playing from behind either. So you know, with that
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: worst case scenario, if they are, if we are getting
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: scored on or whatever the case is, that's just gonna
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: have to up the anny on the offense side of
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: the ball to go score more points. And that's our dream.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Anyway, goost, go four, score forty, whatever.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: So you know, that's that's where that's where I'm at
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: with the with the newness of it, I think it's
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: gonna make up where it might get looser and higher
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: risk in other places, the fundamentals will make up for that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: And I like the different looks and the exotics we
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: talk about every week, and the you know, the way
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: of it's a three, three, five, but really it's a
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: six to two, you know, or a six to one, right,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: because there's guys all over and the different ups and backs,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: and I think there's a wide range of talent on
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: the defensive front that we've been drafting and adding and
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: there's fifty of them, right, So I'm hoping that pieces
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: can be found from Jim Leonard as as we move
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: forward with with that many chess pieces, you got to
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: find a few guys that can play these positionist roles.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree, you know, it's interesting, sir, because
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: like when I look at it, you know, if you
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: start to go back from the defense, you go defensive line,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: then you go to the linebackers. You said a name
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: that like has been big on my my list, is
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: that like to I understand that he went through injuries
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: last year. I understand that we necessarily didn't get the
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: best of him, But I'm concerned because k e O
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: and the way that he plays.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that kay O is gonna be above
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: uh you know what I.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Mean, uh Tip Terroll Bernard, but I think that he
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: could be above Dorian Williams.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: And I think that it could be a situation where
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in this linebackers.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: A lot of Bill's boffiat wanted us to add a linebacker,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: whether it been you know, bringing Shaq Thompson back, what
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: if the case may be sharm I'm concerned a little
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: bit about the linebackers because I think we're just a
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: little bit light and I don't know necessarily.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: If we can hold up. Maybe we can.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's gonna be no big deal in the end,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: but I think that it's it's something worth at least
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: monitoring because I know that Terrell is a great player.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I just haven't seen him be a great player since,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: you know, a couple of years ago, well, a couple.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Of years ago, he was robbed with an All pro.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Don't get don't get that twisted. He was an all pro.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: He was all Pro. Okay, don't let yeah, he will
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: remember what defense he comes from. Se d Jerk will
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: drop names on you to see. Follows is my forte?
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: So Dave Randa, where's Terrell Bernard? What system does he
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: come from?
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: When you? When you? When you?
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: When you?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, so so followed me. He was a safety and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: he's converted. Remember that. Don't ever forget that he is
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: a converted safety and his instincts.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: Right there is there is conceptual things that are changing.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: As far as this defense is concerned that I don't
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: think people are really understanding. Sean McDermott might have been
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: the most predictable coach as far as I'm gonna put
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: four here, and I'm gonna put three linebackers and then
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: we're gonna wait, I'm I do this, man, I'm watching
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: prime video. I'm watching our Texans game because I'm trying
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: to see what's going on and I'm looking.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: At it and I'm like, well, damn, like, we don't
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: have any like you have Davis Mills in that game.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Who doesn't He gets the key on his read, he
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: can identify at the line, he can look, there's my mic.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: This is the gap right here, they're coming here. Blah
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: blah blah, you point all this. What Leonard does is
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: even though and yes, we we're gonna blitz more so
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: if that's what you're wanting to hear, we are because
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I think Sean Dermott blitz less than fifteen percent of
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: the time, which is egregiously love right. And if he did,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: he bring slot pressure or he would bring someone as
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you know, you guys were saying with with with with
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: you know, we're not gonna talk about that guy. But
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: what I will say is no, I don't want to
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: down nobody's like like, what I want to say is like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: The crew because keep it. Karen Johnson, John Karen.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Johnson had regressed. Okay, Karen Johnson had regressed. That's just
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: what it was, and whether anyone wanted to see it
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: or not, he hit his peak. And the fact of
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: the matter is is, yes, he made some highlight plays.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yes we will love him, he will endear him in
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: our hearts forever. But he wasn't the same player.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He just wasn't.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And he wasn't making their tackles. He wasn't making the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: same hits. It's just the way it goes.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: So now, when you have a pre snap disguise, that
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: disguise is going to do more for you than you know.
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: For quarterbacks like Drake who in.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl did look like he was seeing Gus right,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: the reason you're seeing is because there's a disguise and
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: when you cause that single bit of hesitation, you take
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the bills, who are We're in the bottom third of sacks,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: So I don't see like if if you're averaging point
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: nine sacks per game, I can assure you it doesn't
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: get worse, Like you're gonna get one of those on
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: a drop, Like you know what I mean, Like, it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: just what it is.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: What I would also say is when there's this debate
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: going on of how you know, do we have the
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: depth or do we have the pieces?
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they probably do need to add a linebacker. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: think you're I think your concerns there are are right,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: because we're an injury away from seeing Buffalo Joe out there.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I mean that's just and and that story makes sound
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: cute to some people, but it's about Okay. So I
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: like themar Hamlin. I think Tomar Hamlin's a hell of
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a human. I don't want Damar Hamlin on my football side.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I just don't want to the field. He's a great person. Uh,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: fantastic story. Great, but this isn't a buffalo love story.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: This is hearing get Rob a parade.
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: And so if you're going to talk about as far
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: as we're going regarding the pre staff and the concepts
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: that we're going, like I said, it's all about the concept.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So when I tell you that, what what do you
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: feel more comfortable with an overload on? And let's just
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: say if you bring it back. I know you're saying, oh,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Greg Russou. I watched Greg Russol in college. Greg can
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: do it all, Grey can do it all. We we've
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: we've underused him, right, you have to you have to
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: mix and match a little bit.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: And it's not just winning one on one. Like I said,
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: I started with saying it was predictable. It was as
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: predictable as it gets. You knew where it was coming. Okay,
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: so the defense of they would stun or it doesn't
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: matter that that none of that matters if you're not
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: disguising what the quarterbacks seeing that little bit of hesitation
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: that Jim Leonard is gonna provide us will.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Lead to more sacks? Will it lead to a couple
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: of gaps in the secondary? It very well could, because
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: now you're going to cause the quarterback to throw a
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: couple hero balls. That's just what's gonna happen. Jeric, you know.
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• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Out, Jeric.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: We go from the linebackers, then we go to the secondary.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: And one of the things that I loved the most
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: about seeing the secondary come together over the offseason, to
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: be honest with he was the addition of CJGJ. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I say that because of the fact that I was,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I've always been under the oppression, whether it's right or wrong, Jeric,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: that McDermott likes his guys. And when I say his guys,
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: it's guys that fit kind of his mold, you know,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: kind of semi choirboard choir boy. Hearkening back to tdd
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Dunn's piece on him, and I don't think that CJJ
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: would ever have been in the cards for a guy
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: like Sean McDermott. Because he's loud, he's brash, he's confident,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: he's loud, he's brash, he talks shit, he's loud like
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: just a lot of things in respects to his makeup
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: may not have rubbed Sean McDermott the right way.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I was happy that Joe Brady.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Brought him in with Brandon Bean and I think that
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: this guy can be when it comes to the secondary,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: there's an attitude that needs to be played with. There
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: is a certain way that you need to go about
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: your business. I think that CJ GJ he embodies.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: All of it. I'm here for all of it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I want all the smoke, and I really do thinek
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: that he's a great addition to the secondary and will
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: help out with some of these younger guys as well,
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: even DeMar Hamblin, who shirm can't stand.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I think that that the addition of a guy like
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that helps out the entire room. I really do.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Well well. Like Sherm said, I don't want Tomorry Amma
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: on the roster, but unfortunately no, But you know McDermott,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: You're right, McDermott has his guys, and that could be
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: a positive because you look at Christian Benford, you look
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: at Tradevius White, their zone corners, they came in from,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: they came in from well really you know, Shradevi's White
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: was he was he was a match corner. Christian Benford
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: was more of your traditional cover three corner. And you know,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: you look at those sort of players and again, of
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: course you got the downside. You look at your Dave
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Jackson's and your Levi Wallace's of the world. Levi Wallace
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: came from from cover eight. He came from the cover
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: right scheme, that cover seven cover right scheme. Uh in
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Tuscaloosa with Nick Saban. But it's you know, he you know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: obviously McDermott has his particular guys, and he has this
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: system of running that four to three or that four
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: two five to Ron Johnson, playing that box, that box,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: that box, the box, you know, sort of role playing
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: basically as an as an extra linebacker. It's and it
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and listen. For for some years it worked until we
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: got into the postseason and then all of a sudden
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: we couldn't run any sort of traditional we couldn't run
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: like we were running just traditional pressure. Nothing, no no different,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: no key, blitz off the edge, nothing. And then all
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, our secondary is playing this conservative base cover,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: this conservative base cover three, and it was just complete hell.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: The scenes are wide open. We we backed off, We
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: backed our court like the death of all our corners
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: were playing were extremely freaking far. So it was allowing
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: so much underneath stuff to open up, and it was
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: just given way too much. Like we're like, we're giving
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: way too much responsibility for our linebackers to kind of
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: handle because you have because like it's as a linebacker,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: it's hard sometimes to Okay, I have to worry about
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I have to worry about what's behind me. I have
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: to worry about what's in front of me. I have
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: to worry about especially if I'm playing a particular zone,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: especially if I have a particular zone drop and if
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I'm let's just say I am playing match coverage, it's
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: way harder like to cover so like two or three
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: four different things happening in front of you or behind you,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and it's so like it's like that's the thing about
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: mcdermot's defense. It's just thinking. It's too much thinking. It
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: can help. It can It can absolutely excel, especially if
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you have a very intelligent linebacker. May not be may
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: not be, you know, the best athletically, but as long
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: as they have the mental capacity to handle the you
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: know McDermott's philosophy, they're they're they're going to excel. Very
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: similar to like Bill Belichick, how he can take players
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: from Walmart and all of a sudden they just ad
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Bill Belichick had a certain defense that just worked with
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: certain players. But the problem was was that is that
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: the downside with having McDermott guys is that he had
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: it his way. So perfect example because we just had this,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: we just had this. This uh this we're seeing it
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: this year is Jordan Hancock. Jordan Hancock was drafted from
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Ohio State. Athletically very athletically gifted. Had a rad score
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I think close to a nine six to one, one
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five pounds. He's a big he's a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: big player. It's a big dB. I don't think he
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: has a true traditional position, but what he came to iiO.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Came out of Ohio State and he was known for
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: was playing in the slot. That's what he was good at.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: He was he was basically a star playing in the slot,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: and he made a lot of key tackles. He made
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of key players in the past game strictly
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: for that position. We drafted to Ron Johnson. And what
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: did we make to Ron Johnson play, Well, we make
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: them basically play for different positions. He's playing at a
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: field tight corner. He's playing in the slot, he's playing
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: in the box, he's playing as a post safety, he's
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: playing as a split safety. He's playing way too many
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: different roles. And so all of a sudden, now when
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: we get when we get let's just say we get
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: to the playoffs, what happens when we get to the
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: playoffs against the Jacksonville jack Warts, when we have a
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: player hurt. He's playing as a post safety. And thank
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: god we played against Trevor Lawrence because Trevor Lawrence was
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: unable to identify the weakness, which was Jordan Hancock, who
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: was always a step behind in terms of reckon, in
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: terms of recognizing the play post nap because he's because
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: he just he doesn't know how to play that position,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: because that's not what he's used to playing at Ohio
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: State all the time. But all of a sudden, now
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: when we have Jim Lennard in the preseason game, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he's making a bunch of plays,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: and everyone's saying, who is this player? Why isn't he
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: should be starting in the slot.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Well, what do you have it?
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: The player that played well all is all?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Well, of course he knows how
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: to play well because guess what he was drafted playing.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: He was drafting the fifth round and drafted as a
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: as A as A as an all Big ten player
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: because he played in the freaking slide.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: So who so go figure?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Is that all of a sudden, now we have a
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator who's playing players in their natural positions that
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: they've played all their lives instead of McDermott, who's taking players,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: putting them out of position and putting them in predetermined
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: areas that fits his particular style. And sometimes it works,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: sometimes it doesn't work, and but when it doesn't work,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: we we we pay the cause, we pay the ultimate
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: price ultimately when we get into the postseason. And that's
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: what happens too much. Look at Tremaine Edmons. Again, I
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: know it's the secondary time, but look at Tremade Mons
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: perfect example. Tremaine Edmonds was known before avral Reese who
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: was drafted this year at number three, or of Dual Carter.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: You know they're drafted high. Why because they're playing they're
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: playing off the edge. They're playing as an outside linebacker,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: but they're basically playing as an extra edge rusher. That
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: was Tremaine Edmonds. That's what outside line who they use
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: in heavy front and they basically use him to set
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: the edge and to get after the quarterback. They used
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: in so many different blitz packages. He was basically Dorian Williams.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: We get him the Buffalo and and we're and he's
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: literally playing Mike. He's playing traditional Mike or like he's
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: and and to Tremaine Eedmans, he played well for he
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: played well.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: He was very similar to a very similar to plays
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: but he was solid.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Right like he was getting compared to Brian Airlecker. But
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: he's not Brian now like he may have the physicality
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and the size of Brian air Elector, but he's he
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't have the nowhere near the mental capacity of Brian Airleker.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Why because linebackers that his natural position. It's not his
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: natural position. He basically didn't have a position when he
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: played out of high school. So this is what we're
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: talking about with McDermott in terms of getting players to
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: play different roles that they're not cuffs into playing. Sometimes
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: it can work, sometimes it doesn't work. But ultimately, what
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: does work for McDermott's defense, and this is just the
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: weirdest crap some people may find me find my words confusing,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: is the players that he does draft and when he
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: does get them to play roles or assignments that they're
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: used to playing, they all they excel. Christian Benford is
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: a cover three corner. What what's our defense? Mostly cover
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: three out of out of the out of a four
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: to three. Look, all of a sudden, Christian Benford is excelling.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: But then you have kr Elam, who you who is
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: a pressman corner who you get him to play in
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: that particular role, and you change up all his different tendencies,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: and you change up just everything that he's about, like
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: look at it like and then like and then all
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, when we get him to play right
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: back to Judis Trueman, he's getting cooked and then people
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: are gonna blame the player. No, that's on coaching because
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you're rewiring it. Because you're rewiring a player's brain to
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: play in your specific scheme, and that can app absolutely
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: disrupt the players development, especially a young player in the NFL.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: It's one I'm telling you, playing as a defensive back,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: especially with the amount of assignments that they have to play,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: it's one of the hardest things to grasp, not just
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: what you're doing on the field, what you're doing off
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: the field. So rewiring a player's brand if they're not
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: used to doing, and then all of a sudden getting
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: them back to playing that role that you draft them
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: for in the first place, it's not gonna work out
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: nine times out of ten.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: So this is hap.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: That's my problem, and that's why I think with the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Lennard secondary, we have players like Jordan Ancock, we have
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: players like Jalen Kilgore, who, by the way, Jayleen Kogor
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: played in the slot in South Carolina, but before that,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the two years prior, he played as a post safety.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Guess what we're getting getting Jayalen Kilgore playing now is
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: a freaking post safety, or we're having no players to
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: play safety, which he's also accustomed to doing because he
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: played both roles at South Carolina at a high level.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: So we're getting players to play in their natural roles.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: We're not getting them to think too much when we're
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: doing that particularly well, that is what it's going to
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: elevate players compared to what McDermott was doing. How it
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: could work. But your if you're gambling terms, but you're gambling,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: that's that. That's what we were doing.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: He listen, sir.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: It's funny because like when I when I look at
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: the cornerbacks, you know what I mean, And I look
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: at like the like the secondary as a whole. But
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: when I look at the cornerbacks, it was funny because
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: like when I g B was picked up, I was
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: against it, but I'm I'm ready to be proven wrong, sir,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Like I'm ready to be proven wrong.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: You're going in respects to his impact, and.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Guess what we have him doing all the way we
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: got him. He's playing press. Just tell him playing fifteen
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: yards back.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: You're going to be That's my hot take. I've stood
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: on business and I don't care. I'm telling you by
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you he's he's he's gonna He's.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Everything they want him to be and more. It shows
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: the change. Listen what Sean McDermott did well, because I
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: don't want to shoot on the guy all day, but
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: after that draft, he instituted the culture. Okay, okay, and
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: you had to you had to develop. You have to
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: make Buffalo an organization that was now ready to win
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: and the use to winning.
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: And I think the misconception and it's it's it's because look,
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna shoot on Buffalo, but I'm gonna talk
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: about Buffalo.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: For a second.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: When you get drafted, when you get drafted to Buffalo,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: you have to have a certain you have to have
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: a certain character built.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: These guys are getting a lot of money in their
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: first time in their career. You know, you see about
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: it in in in what was it the ESPN the
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: nineties and E. C thurmon Thomas say, oh, I think
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: I'm getting drafted to Buffalo and I'm going to New
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: York City, New York City, right, and so so so
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: when you look at what was established, an absolute hit.
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: On on Josh Allen who none of us were taking,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: none of us, none of us, everyone here, no nobody who's.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Taken Josh Allen. What you then in the first year,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: you know, you have Tyron Taylor and you get to
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: that that that that Jacksonville game, that was an absolute stinker.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: It was a true McDermott class. Uh but let's let's
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: say this.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Did we just broke the drought? It was all good?
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: It was that.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Man, That's it with me. But I say this, I
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: got picture. I got a picture Pug and Sean McDermott
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: after the game, just so you know. So I liked
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: McDermott and I like the culture that was instituted. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: think that he knew that in order to make Buffalo
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: he needed to get people that people character, people that
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: are okay in Buffalo.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Right, what was the big I mean, I remember celebrating
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: like hell because we got Mario Williams to come to Buffalo. Right,
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: That's this was This wasn't the attractive place always to be.
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: So McDermott had to walkify mine because he spelt so
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: long building this culture, building this this locker room, building
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: this organization from the from the ground floor. He really did,
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: and and you got to give him credit for that
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: because he got players that not only bought in, but
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: they didn't have to go.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: These are guys that want to be family men there
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: that they buy houses, they take money to go less
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: than Buffalo. They they didn't great sick right. Not every
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: player can do that.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Like me, I was.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: If you remember a couple of years ago, I said, hey, listen,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: mortgage those fucking picks and just you know, because now
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: we can look back, we can see what those picks
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: would have been, and those picks would have been key on.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I know it's twenty twenty, but I was before the hindsight,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: so I was looking through the front when I wasn't
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: looking through the rear view. I remember you you were there,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: and I said, you can package that in the trade.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: You can package these two first oh no, no, no no,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: And you can go up and they say, oh, you
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: don't have a dance partner.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in the business of finding what people's
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: breaking point is. Trust me, there is a price. There's
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: a price, and you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Can go up and get that.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: But you can't put them the league neighbors in Buffalo
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: at that point, Like if Josh Allen's not there, Gardner
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Johnson probably doesn't come to Buffalo. If Josh Allen's not here.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: So let's also recognize the opportunity and the opportunity cost
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: that McDermott did afford us. He built something wonderful. He's
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: just not the guy to take it over the top.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: And like I said, I lived in the Tampa Bay area.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I watched Tony Dunee do the same damn thing. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: watched him build a beautiful, beautiful thing. And guess what,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: he just would not adapt And it took John Bon
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: coming in. It's just what happens.
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: And sometimes this is a proverbial hump that you can't
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: get over. The guy couldn't do it. And and and
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: yes we can say the players have to make plays,
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: but you also.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: Have to make the right decisions. You have to put
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: the people in the right Eventually, there is no such
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: thing as a one off, There is no outliers. There
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: is a trend.
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: There's a trend of scoring and then not getting off
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: the field, scoring, not getting off the field. And so
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: if we can get a little of a couple of
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: those things, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna, you know,
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: dismiss what McDermott did.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: But I do have to say it was time. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: don't think it's a gamble. You keep saying that. You
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: said a couple of times, I'm ready to see what's
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: going on, and the truth of the matter, well.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: Because it's unknown, I say that, because it's unknown. We
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: don't know Jim Letter. We know Jim Leonard as as
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Wisconsin's defensive coordinator. We know him as you know the
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: understudy under bowls. Excuse me, under advance Joseph in Denver.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: We don't know what you know.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: It is a gamble. I just think that that the change.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I'm just not scared of the change. That's what I
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: mean by that. Jared and sharm like, I'm not. I'm
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: not scared of the change. This things will be different.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: I think that for Bill's Bobby, as we begin to
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: wrap up tonight, I think that you should expect there
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: are going to be bigger plays that are given up
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: that we are not. What was one of the staples
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: of Big Dummer's defenses. He was never beat over the top,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: never beat over the top. We had obviously all pro
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: pos we had hide. Never beat over the top. We
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: might get beat over the top. A couple of times
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I heard in Cleveland and the joint practices we were
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: getting beat Casey conception she always having a couple of
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: good plays. Listen, we might give up some shit, but
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: I think that like the trade off, I think is
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: just worth it. Where I'm just not worried about it, Jared,
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not worried about what we lack as opposed to
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: the differences that we're you know, giving teams. I think
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: that we're just going to give them such different looks
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: that I think that it just it might balance out.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Does that make sense or I don't know if that
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: makes sense or that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Well, what I'm saying is this, If you're gonna be
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: a run first team, right, that's what we work. We transition.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: McDermott took us to a run first team. We went
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: to James Cook, he's the Russian leader.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: If you're going to play that culture, that style of football, right,
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: then you better damn sure stop the run because you're
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: not controlling.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: The clock, you're not getting off it's a fallacy. If
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: you're going to do that, then you have to at
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: least be good on the other side for that. If not,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: you're probably better off giving up the big play. Well
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: why because your defense isn't gonna be gassed at the
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: end of the day.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: You have more time.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: There's only when you're at the bottom. There's only one
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: place to go. That's up. And our run defense can
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: literally not get worse, it can it has no You agree, Jerk.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: You agree, Jeric, Like, there's nowhere to go but up
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: with this new scheme under Jim Leonard.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean you're you're literally starting this team
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: from scratch and we're bidding and we're basically getting a
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: bunch of McDermot players and we're basically trying to fit
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: them in a scheme. That's what that's in a sense
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: why Letter says, well, I don't have all the pieces
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: I need as yet. Some of these players are like
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: stay in the long term. But he had like there's
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: a reason why a bunch of the McDermott players they
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: are still free agents.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, no one cares about it.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going out to you Toronto. I'm not even meeting
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: that drum. You know, I've been saying it over and over,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: and I mean, now Taylor Rapp got signed, and they're
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: all right, Taylor rap signed, Well, seven other motherfuckers are
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: sign anywhere because we can get them on right now.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Because I'm pretty sure he's let me tell you something
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: real quick. I'm telling you right now, like there is
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: a reason these men are not on practice squads, They're
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: not on anything. Yes, they were Buffalo culture guys. There
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: was a reason why. The minute that McDermott was fired,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: the number one person who comes out Jordan Phillips and
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: they're Phillips instant. Goddamn about Phillips Instagram Take that. Listen,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: we don't care like that wasn't it. You knew the
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: writing was on the wall, you so, all certain things
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: he was acting out of McDermott, aura or whatever it
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: was throughout the year, and you know, we were having
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: the discussion, you know, it was do we have enough?
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: And and I'm with Jeric, I don't believe the roster
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: is where it needs to be. We all the Seattle Seahawks.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: Of twenty twenty five, we probably don't come close to
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: the Houston Texas Texans personnel on defense.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: However, without all that, we were one, you know, catch
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: non catch, whatever was away from potentially you know, you know,
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: so so for me, Rob, I think in someation, no,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: I mean serious, I mean, you know we're gonna need
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: fundamentals have to tie up. They have to be better,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: and damn it, it's okay to say it. We need
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: a little bit of luck, a little bit of luck
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: along a little bit. That's okay to say that.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: That's every year I say it, Yes, I say it's.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Way once or twice.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Right, the ball is a sometimes it's just luck that
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: is involved that people inherently do not like to acknowledge.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: As we wrap up tonight, Jered Uh and Sherm, I
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: appreciate both of you guys. Listen, check them out. You
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: could check out Jared called at chance. That's j A
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: m ce seven one six on Twitter. You could check
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: out my boy Shearm Listen, check them out. Shrm gz
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: that's s h E R m G e e z
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: a Y check them out on Twitter. Listen, check them
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: both out. Because I've been in spaces, like I said,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: for about a year now with these fellas, and I
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: really appreciate it. Listen, last thing will wrap up. DT
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: kind of bowed out, he said, Listen, man, the connections.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: It's not fucking with me tonight. It's and Jared said
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: it right at the beginning, it's the McDermot cronies. They're
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: finding a way to keep his name untarnished.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So we'll keep moving.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: But as we wrap up tonight, I want to know
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: your predictions for the defense now. I don't necessarily need
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: a number My main focus and the number one thing.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I said this a couple of nights ago on a
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: space on a Bill's space.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: You guys weren't around, but I said, listen, my number
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: one my number one problem for twenty twenty six, and
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: that is including what Jim Leonard said. Yes, I don't
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: necessarily have all my pieces now. I think that he
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: was just hedging our expectations, but it doesn't mean that
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: he thought that we're going to be shitty. He just
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: was saying, listen, I don't have everything that I need
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: right now, but we're working towards it. My number one
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: problem and my number one concern Jared Surm is that
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: at the end of the year we're in the exact
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: same spot that we've been in where the defense can't
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: get a stop. We need them to get a stop.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: We need Josh to have a little bit of help.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: He can't be perfect every time, he can't put on
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: the Superman cape every time, and I'm worried that in
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: a key situation we might just be in the same spot,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: because it doesn't matter where how you get to where
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: you're going. If you get and you end up at
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: the same spot, then you end up at the same
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: fucking spot. Talk to me as we close up tonight, Jared,
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: that's talk me off a ledge. I guess I'm giving
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: you the opportunity to talk me off alledge. I am
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: worried that at the end of the year will be
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: in the exact same spot, whether it's because he didn't
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: have his his pieces or whatever, and that that's the
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: thing that keeps me up that night when I think
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: about Jim Leonard and this new defense, it's like, oh shit,
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: he didn't have his pieces and it was divisional round
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: against whoever, denver, whoever, and we came up short again.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: And then that that's gonna feel eerily similar to what
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: I've been feeling these last nine years.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: Oh well, well, I mean I'm the wrong person to
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: talk to because I'm I'm one of the I think
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: that one where this year we ain't gonna get this
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: thing done in the first year of this regime. Listen,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: child to my guy coach Sean. He he says, the
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: best man, the truth is in the details, and so
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: so so we're gonna figure it out. We are, We're
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: gonna figure out exactly what this defense can be made up.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: But I kind of agree with you, Rob in a
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: sense where I think that do I think that this
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: is that we have the defense this year to stop
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes? Do we have the defense this year to
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: stop you know? I will even say, listen, we beat
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Lamark quarterback. Even I would even say about Nicks. I
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: hate to say, I'm gonna throw a bow Nicks name
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: in there, because we couldn't. We couldn't get the job
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: done against Nick and he does what you want to
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: say about bow Necks bone Knicks had two successful drives
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: that won them the game. It is what it is.
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: He I'll played our quarterback, but with our quarterback up
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: to help, like we had to help him play the quarterback,
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: he didn't make it any with help.
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: But that's that's the point that that that that game
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: it should never been close in the first place. We
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: should have blown out there. We were like Jackson was
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: the way hard with the way different, way more difficult,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: and we and we found a way to mess that up.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: So ultimately, at the end of the day, is this
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: going to be I think the real question is is
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: this going to be a defense that can win you
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: football game if our quarterbackscrews up? Because if the quarterback
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: plays perfect, let's be honest, ninety nine point nine percent
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: of the time we're going to win football games. The
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: point one percent is because we can't figure out because
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: our special teams coordinator Erman Deermy could figure out to
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: not squip kick the football and waste.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Do you agree with Jaredy? No?
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: I haven't.
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: He knows that I never was under so going into
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: the last season. I actually believe we have enough to
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: get it done, even though I believed in deficiencies. It
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: took me till about whatever the week the Tampa game
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: was and everybody was all excited, and I stand on
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: it because I was there and I went, well, we
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: can't win the super Bowl, but we don't have some
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: fun is what we're gonna do.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: However, this year, I do believe that, and it's not
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: a fan I've never.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: Going into the later part. I believe him on the
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: second half of my life. The first half is done.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: I've never thought that the Buffalo Bills would be in
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and ever gave that prediction. Ever, I
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: genuinely I never thought that this year.
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: I just again, Sans getting beat by someone who has
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: familiarity with the defense bags is a bad matchup for
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: Josh styles make fights.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: It's just what it is.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: He knows him very well. And I'll be honest, you know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: depending on what this Texans team does in the first week,
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: which I don't. I didn't see much of it against,
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: but that defense hasn't been known to cause Josh problems
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: no other than that without those two teams, I just
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: I don't see any way that this defense doesn't get better.
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: The turnover margin we haven't been positive last year. We
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: weren't positive. If you can flip three numbers. Three numbers
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: is all the Bills have to flip this year, and
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: they will. The offense is going to be the offense.
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: Mind you, I'm watching a game. I told you I
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: was watching Prime Vision again to watch.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: The Texans game. We started with Elijah Moore and Tyrrell
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Shaver's out there.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, come on, man, Like, if you think DJ
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: Moore Shakir even add certain aspects Keon coming into his own,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: I think the offense is going to be I think
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: we can say without a doubt it's going.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: To be the same thing, right, it might even help
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: it better or exactly. So let's just say that the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: constant is the same. Let's keep the constant. So the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: three numbers you have to worry about are the first
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: that I always found the table on is can we
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: do yards per play on the rush and cannot give
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: up five yards per play? Let's say we get that
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: down one yard. One yard, that's it. One yard. You
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: get it down to four.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: Now you've opened up, You've taken drives that are now
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: taking up a lot of the time. That's going to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: control time and possession. That's going to allow Josh to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: get in a little bit more of a rhythm. I'm
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: not even taking it in points scenario. I'm talking about
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: just stopping the run a little bit.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: It stops the bleeding. That's number one.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 7: Number two turnover margin. You can't be negative in that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: if the bills are positive in the in the turnover margin,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: which I know is a defensive thing. So we're gonna say, hey,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: the defense is going to have to force some fucking turnovers.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: And last but not least, you hear me, pounding the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: drum on this. I think that we were predictable and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I think that we're going to give different looks that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: are now going to cause players like Drake May we
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: have the first matchup, like I said, against Stroud, you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: give them where they can't identify where they're going right away.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: They get shook and that little bit of hesitation in
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: our SATs have to go up. We're in the bottom
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  Speaker 3: third and sacks. That has to change.
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  Speaker 7: If SATs go from one point whatever, it is one
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  Speaker 7: point seven a game and we can even get up.
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  Speaker 7: We don't have to get the Denver level.
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  Speaker 3: Denver's at four, the Texans are at like three eight
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  Speaker 3: point eight. We just need that to go up. You
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  Speaker 3: get one more sack a game, you get one less
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  Speaker 3: yard to carry. I guarantee that there's.
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  Speaker 1: Just we had Denver.
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  Speaker 3: We had Denver the year we do we do. We
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  Speaker 3: did it, and yes Bonis played well, but again Bonnicks
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  Speaker 3: had pre snap breaths. He knew where he was throwing
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  Speaker 3: before him. You will never have that. I don't care
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  Speaker 3: if you line up me Rob and then should be
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  Speaker 3: looking at three of us on the line and someone
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  Speaker 3: running back now just lined up in Bonicks before the
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  Speaker 3: play even starts. He knew where he was going. I
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  Speaker 3: promise you, he did, You're not gonna know where you're
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  Speaker 3: going this year. And I promise with that that that
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  Speaker 3: little those margins and you get a little bit better.
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  Speaker 3: But those three numbers are the biggest thing. And you
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  Speaker 3: watch them, and if the Buffalo Bills can contain and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even say get dominant, that's the thing. Everyone's
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  Speaker 3: expecting somebody to say, hey, we need come in here
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  Speaker 3: were would be a great defense. No, I just needed
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  Speaker 3: to not be last.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't need to throw up on themselves in
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs. And that is that's good enough for me.
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  Speaker 4: I listen, I appreciate both of you guys. DT already
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  Speaker 4: a text me he says. His regards said every time
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  Speaker 4: he tried to hop on, he could not get on
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  Speaker 4: and it was breaking up.
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  Speaker 1: So we appreciate. Listen.
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  Speaker 4: He's celebrating his grandma Willa's one hundred and one birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred and one. What the fun?
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any idea like one oh one. I
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  Speaker 4: don't even know if I want to be around that long.
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  Speaker 4: But listen, I heard Grandma will is doing her thing
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  Speaker 4: down there. In Animal City. Yes man, so happy birthday,
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  Speaker 4: GT enjoy it tonight. As we wrap up tonight, we
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  Speaker 4: really appreciate it. Listen, Nico City Crew, Bill's Mafia.
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  Speaker 1: We listen.
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  Speaker 4: I told you guys that this was like one of
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  Speaker 4: the last episodes we had to talk about McDermot.
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  Speaker 1: I'm done. We are done.
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  Speaker 4: Next week, we've got Mama Monday, the resident mama of
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  Speaker 4: Nicol City Crew.
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  Speaker 1: She is coming. We are ready to talk about Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: We're ready to talk about the brain as we as
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  Speaker 1: we do excuse me, yearly, we're going to break it down.
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  Speaker 1: He's a dad. Now, he's now you know, he's a husband,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: he's a dad.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to break down Josh Allen like this.
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  Speaker 4: This is at too of his career. So we are
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  Speaker 4: really really excited. Mama Monday will be here next week.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. We appreciate you guys. Listen.
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  Speaker 4: Over three hundred and fifty people on the TGI Friday
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  Speaker 4: watching us live across all platforms.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate your time tonight. Listen again, DT centsens regards
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  Speaker 1: shirm Jeric.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all. Y'all showed up big, y'all did be right.
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  Speaker 4: Y'all made me look good. Listen, I appreciate you'll tonight.
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  Speaker 4: Salute to you guys for sure. I appreciate your time tonight. Man,
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  Speaker 4: Listen as always enjoy it. Bills have Cleveland just came
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  Speaker 4: off of the joint practices, so they will be in
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland tomorrow night. Excuse you, tomorrow afternoon one o'clock kick
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  Speaker 4: off preseason game number two. Only three preseason games now,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: you know that with the new schedule, so listen. I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: don't expect any of the starters to play. What everything
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: I've heard from Joe Brady was like, let's listen, let's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: get good work in on Thursday, and then none of
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: y'all motherfuckers have to play in the game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 4: And from what I heard, they had some good work
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  Speaker 4: put in. I heard the tight ends showed out and
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  Speaker 4: Josh Allen showed out yesterday. So I don't expect any
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  Speaker 4: of the main starters to play. Maybe some of the
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  Speaker 4: couple of the rookies and stuff like that. On defense
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  Speaker 4: we'll get a chance to get some shine. But other
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  Speaker 4: than that, let's everybody. I hope that everybody stays healthy.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: Listen out there, we appreciate you tonight. Spread love, not hate.
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  Speaker 4: These were my bills, thoughts said out loud listen. It's customary.
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  Speaker 4: DT's not here hit them with the gold bills. Sharon
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  Speaker 4: hit him with the gold bills. Jared, we hit him
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  Speaker 4: with the gold bills.
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  Speaker 3: End of the show, go bills.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it.