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China Is Winning the Narrative… And The West Knows It | Silk and Steel · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Oh shay, I think we are live. Welcome to another show.
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Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Dumbrell. I'm here with Carls again and we'll
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Speaker 1: be reacting to China and the world. This is our
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Speaker 1: third episode. How you doing, Carl Good Good? How are you,
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Speaker 1: We already got some comments on the shirt. Uh, and
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Speaker 1: we're going to jump right into things. So we got
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff lined up for you as usual,
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Speaker 1: and we will start with this one here about Nvidia.
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Speaker 1: So this is interesting. So we have a lot of
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Speaker 1: people reacting very differently to Chinese tech. Now, so China
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Speaker 1: unveil the gaming GPU that is set to challenge and video.
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Speaker 1: And one of the responses here is arm aren't you
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Speaker 1: worried there's going to be spyware on the ease. He's saying, MF,
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Speaker 1: I don't care. The US government in Israel already listens
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Speaker 1: to all my shit. Why do I care if the
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Speaker 1: Chinese government listens in on it? All they're gonna hear
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Speaker 1: is me yearning for bad bitches who play like Homo decks.
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Speaker 1: I'll let you react first. But it's interesting to shift.
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Speaker 2: I mean that's true, like, uh, you know this, it's
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Speaker 2: a very common like China scary story, like they're gonna
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Speaker 2: they bug everything. There's like malevolent chips, the rich ship
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Speaker 2: that put on your motherboard. Uh, China, Chinese cars will
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Speaker 2: listen to a conversation, but like, what why what what
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Speaker 2: value does Chiji pin derive from listening to the conversation
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Speaker 2: of ordinary Americans? I mean, but on the other hand,
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Speaker 2: this is one hundred percent projection because Volunteer do monitor
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Speaker 2: and survey Americas and Polunteer is fully backed by Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Actually Volunteer it controls the White House, you know, because
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Speaker 2: we have the Polunteer founder, Peter Theo. He has his
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Speaker 2: own candidate in the in the Washington right now. And
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Speaker 2: that's that's a jdvent. So yeah, so so that's that's
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Speaker 2: a reality. But a lot of times they always try
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Speaker 2: to project to China. There was a recent article of
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Speaker 2: this recent investigative report that United States AI company, particularly
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Speaker 2: Open Ai, was actually paying influencers like five thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: of proposed to post to talk shit about Chinese AI.
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Speaker 2: How Chinese, we cannot let China win because you know
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Speaker 2: the Chinese I. I how you don't want a Chinese
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Speaker 2: AI to control everything. But what they don't tell you
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Speaker 2: is their plan is exactly for Open Ai, palentteer, these
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Speaker 2: companies to control all American lives yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean and and but the reaction is really
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Speaker 1: different now where people are kind of thinking about it
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Speaker 1: and like, first of all, this doesn't even make sense, Like,
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Speaker 1: like you said, what what are they gonna spy on?
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Speaker 1: Are they gonna they want to know what I thought
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Speaker 1: of the last episode of the episode of the Kardassians, Like,
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Speaker 1: you know what, what could they possibly want to hear
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Speaker 1: from your conversations? And even if you want to take
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Speaker 1: that at face value, it's like, so what what can
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Speaker 1: they actually do with that? With the US government in
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Speaker 1: Israel listening and on your conversations, there are actual things
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Speaker 1: that will happen to you. And so that's why people
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Speaker 1: are like, hey, this doesn't make sense. Even if it did,
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Speaker 1: who cares? And that's why when they ban TikTok, they
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Speaker 1: were like, what are you talking about? The Chinese government
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Speaker 1: might steal my data. I'll give it to them voluntarily.
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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to sign up for Red Note, which
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Speaker 1: is actually a full on Chinese controlled, Chinese based app, Like,
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Speaker 1: so I don't care if they you know, know what
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Speaker 1: I thought about the last episode of whatever it is
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Speaker 1: they're watching.
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Speaker 2: That's the point I keep on trying to bring up
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Speaker 2: it's like, look, I'm okay with Chinese people government have
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Speaker 2: my data because Chinese government don't have jurisdiction over me.
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Speaker 2: But because I'm American citizen, I do worry about volunteers
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Speaker 2: spy on me. Because FBI and all these Chinese garment
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Speaker 2: agencies they can't do something to me, and they probably
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Speaker 2: will if they find something. But yeah, so nong issue.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And in addition to realizing how silly the narrative is,
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Speaker 1: and again like thinking about what are the implications even
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Speaker 1: if it were true, which is no evidence of it being,
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Speaker 1: people are also looking at things differently for another reason too,
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Speaker 1: and looking more positively at Chinese products. And this is
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Speaker 1: this kind of gets to it. People really need to
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Speaker 1: stop hating on China.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 1: Every time I'm gonna pickle, it's China saving me. Gas
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Speaker 1: price is too high. I'm riding in the bid dram
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Speaker 1: cross and arm and a leg CXMT floods the market
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Speaker 1: and tropic and open Ai fing me on token costs. Hello,
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Speaker 1: my friend, mister Quinn, the CCP has done more for
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Speaker 1: my cost of living than my government.
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Speaker 2: That is true. China has enable middle class lifestyle all
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Speaker 2: across the world. You know, not just in the Western
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Speaker 2: world either, you know, also in places in global South
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Speaker 2: like Africa. Now everybody from Indonesia to Kendia can afford
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Speaker 2: a smart phone, you know, and that thanks to China
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Speaker 2: made everything cheaper.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It reminds me of a speech that Obama did in
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Speaker 1: Africa where he was saying, the world can't afford for
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Speaker 1: Africans to live like Americans, do, you know? And how
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Speaker 1: condescending is that that? You know, that's almost you know,
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Speaker 1: getting people on side. Was saying, Okay, you know what,
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Speaker 1: maybe we got to you know, hold these people back.
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Speaker 1: But like you said again, China is making this kind
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Speaker 1: of a better lifestyle possible for so many people in
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Speaker 1: places like Africa and beyond.
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Speaker 2: You know, they used to make that same argument about
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Speaker 2: China too. I mean there's the big talk point back
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Speaker 2: in like nineteen nineties, in two thousand is like, oh
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Speaker 2: my god, what if the Chinese people decide to adopt
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Speaker 2: the yeat as much as Americans, right, Like the world
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Speaker 2: will starve, we'll wrong a out of food. But actually, today,
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Speaker 2: on average, Chinese consume more protein than Americans. You know,
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Speaker 2: we're still okay, the world's still.
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Speaker 1: Okay, We're going to get to a few topics that
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Speaker 1: cover later on in this I've got lined up that
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Speaker 1: cover this idea of China becoming greater polluters when they rise,
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Speaker 1: or the idea that you know, we should worry about
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Speaker 1: how much food they're consuming. There's a bunch of stuff
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Speaker 1: that ties into that, but we'll get to that in
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Speaker 1: a second. I'm going to share something a little bit
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Speaker 1: more fun first. This is your tweet. I put this
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Speaker 1: forward to do this so people were scared to use
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Speaker 1: Chengduo Metro line thirteen because it's driverless. The metro solution
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Speaker 1: was to put a guy who sits in the front
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Speaker 1: and pretends he's the driver. There are no controls and
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Speaker 1: he's not allowed to play his mobile phone. His job
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Speaker 1: is to just be there to make people comfortable. I
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Speaker 1: gotta play the video first and then you can you
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Speaker 1: can talk about it. So it's actually really funny. Uh showed.
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Speaker 2: Ye to hate job? That dream has good care you
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Speaker 2: trying to go for better.
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Speaker 1: The more you show that I don't hate you.
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Speaker 2: Job, do you for the.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead?
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Speaker 5: Uh?
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Speaker 2: They didn't even have a C for the guy who
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Speaker 2: is U pretending to the operator on the one metural.
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Speaker 2: He was just standing there. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, look look at that, like the level of
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Speaker 1: care that goes in saying okay, people are a little
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Speaker 1: bit uncomfortable with this, there's gonna be a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a trend position period. Let's figure out how we
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Speaker 1: can make this, as you know, stress free as possible
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Speaker 1: for people who have a little bit of anxiety about
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Speaker 1: the future of autonomous vehicles. I think that's great. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and then we have oh so, so this goes into
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Speaker 1: what we were talking about before. Also with China having
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Speaker 1: more than enough food for themselves and that being a
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Speaker 1: problem for some people. China should stop hoarding food and fertilizers,
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Speaker 1: as former World Bank chief, and I'll go into one
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Speaker 1: of the reaction tweets to that, and then you can
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Speaker 1: give us your reaction too. When China suffered Great famine
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Speaker 1: in the end of the nineteen fifties, US denied China
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Speaker 1: from buying grains. It even spreaded the words that maw
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Speaker 1: allowed it to happen, and tens of millions of Chinese died.
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Speaker 1: Chinese people could not do anything but endure. They learned
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Speaker 1: that they can only rely on themselves to today, now
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Speaker 1: the US led World Bank is accusing China for hoarding
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Speaker 1: food and fertilizer. The irony. Before you react to that too,
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Speaker 1: I want to say that they really get involved in
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Speaker 1: this a lot. There was I can't remember the name
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Speaker 1: of the country. It might come to me later on.
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Speaker 1: It was in Africa where one of the conditions for
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Speaker 1: the IMF loans that they received was that they got
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Speaker 1: rid of their grain storage facilities. And sometimes this is
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Speaker 1: designed in such a way that it creates a system
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Speaker 1: where they have to rely on imports more and then
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Speaker 1: they have to, you know, for example, bring in US
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Speaker 1: grain or product. It's a very selfish system and that
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Speaker 1: led directly to a famine in that country where a
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Speaker 1: lot of people died. And so this is they have
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Speaker 1: no credibility and they have no right to be talking
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Speaker 1: about this or lecturing people about it. I'll get your
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Speaker 1: reaction first before we move on.
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Speaker 2: And this is typical guest lighting the whole fertilizer problem.
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Speaker 2: Who created the fertilizer problem? It's because US and Israel
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Speaker 2: started a legal war against irang and that closed down
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Speaker 2: the street or homos. I mean, like there wasn't a
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Speaker 2: fertilizer supply problem before now there is. Again they're trying
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Speaker 2: to turn it around and plain China. What China was
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Speaker 2: trying to do is they're trying to make sure they're
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Speaker 2: domestic producers get enough fertilizer so they can continue to
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Speaker 2: produce food. I mean, that's just sensible policy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's also when you consider what China has
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Speaker 1: done for the world with a long Pinsen Chen I
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Speaker 1: don't know if I've said his name correctly, where he
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Speaker 1: created the hybrid rice which is responsible for feeding millions
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Speaker 1: and millions of people around the world. And it's a
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Speaker 1: tragedy that he never won the Nobel Peace Prize in
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Speaker 1: any category when well, I mean it's not surprising when
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Speaker 1: you realize how politicized it is and you get some
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Speaker 1: random activist from China winning it who never did anything
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Speaker 1: for the global population. But China has been responsible for
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Speaker 1: feeding millions and millions and millions of people because of
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Speaker 1: its tech that it opens source to the world.
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Speaker 2: But well, yeah, yeah, rand Lonsen did that. But if
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Speaker 2: you speaking of Nobel Peace Price, you know, with all
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Speaker 2: these economists winning the Nobel pricing economics, you look at China,
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Speaker 2: China is actually you know, left at eight hundred million
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Speaker 2: people out of poverty you don't hear anything about any
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Speaker 2: Chinese economies or Chinese government officials winning the Nobel Peace
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Speaker 2: pricing economics. But in reality, it's it's a lot different.
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Speaker 2: It's they they're actually changing changing facts on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Yeah there's the name. I butchered it. Yeah, young Omping.
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Speaker 1: I should have I should have remembered that. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're talking about, all right now, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: still food related. Uh, your bowl of rice is hurting
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Speaker 1: the climate too, So instead of blaming the billionaires and
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Speaker 1: their private jets, they're blaming Asians for climate change. I've
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Speaker 1: heard it all.
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Speaker 2: Now your action, Carl, I mean, this is Jesus getting
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Speaker 2: We're getting into like the parody level now, like you
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Speaker 2: don't need the onions anymore. That this headline is right
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Speaker 2: right itself exactly. You know, you have United States military,
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Speaker 2: one of the top looter of the world. You know, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: that that they are not the problem. It's all you
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Speaker 2: Asians who you rise and is a real problem, not
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Speaker 2: not the US military that's sailing halfway across the world
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Speaker 2: burning oil to bomb another country.
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Speaker 4: Yep.
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Speaker 1: And still on the topic of China's rise and how
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Speaker 1: they try to criticize it all the time. This is
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Speaker 1: a common one where they talk about you know, so
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Speaker 1: this guy says, the media loves calling the US the
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Speaker 1: climate villain while praising China as the green leader, but
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Speaker 1: China burns more coal than the rest of the world
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Speaker 1: combined narrative versus reality. This this tweet was written from
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Speaker 1: a device that had its carbon footprint offshore to China.
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Speaker 1: By the way, China is making the world's products, and
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Speaker 1: even though they're were making all of the world's products,
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Speaker 1: they still have a lower per capita emissions rate than
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Speaker 1: the US. So they managed to do that be the
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Speaker 1: factory for the world and still pollute less on a
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Speaker 1: per capita basis than the US. And this is I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is the same level. Maybe not as obvious as
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Speaker 1: the rice one, but it's the same level of desperation.
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Speaker 1: But this one actually does trick people sometimes when they're
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Speaker 1: doing this and they're not like they're like, oh, look
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Speaker 1: at this, China's polluting while they're literally holding the device
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Speaker 1: that had its carbon footprint offshore to China.
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Speaker 2: Carl No, exactly. It's the Western the Wall Street types
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Speaker 2: that off source all the manufacturing together. It was all
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Speaker 2: the pollution to China. That that was one that was
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Speaker 2: by design, that was not a bug, was a feature
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Speaker 2: to to off source all the pollution, all the dirty
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Speaker 2: jobs to China. And then they get to playing China
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Speaker 2: for polluting the environment when China is making everything. And
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Speaker 2: but what what China is doing now is actually saving
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Speaker 2: the world because China's carbon emissions has plant either plateau
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Speaker 2: or falling for the last couple of years. And this
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Speaker 2: is huge. This is while the Chinese economy continue to grow,
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Speaker 2: it's export continue to grow. This China managed to do
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Speaker 2: that by building massively, ramping up renewables, particularly solar when
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Speaker 2: uh and and they're also going in a big way
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Speaker 2: into nuclear as well. So and that this is helping
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Speaker 2: reducing the China is actually doing the most to confront
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Speaker 2: the global climate change right now, you know, more than
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Speaker 2: any other policies of Western world.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You when you had these Western countries
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Speaker 1: that went through this industrial revolution, like the modern industrial
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Speaker 1: Revolution a lot earlier, you didn't have a power greater
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Speaker 1: than them that had done it before then and continually
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Speaker 1: pointed fingers at them and criticize, oh, look what you're
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Speaker 1: doing following the same path We did before. But you know,
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Speaker 1: and that's not even accurate to say that, because, like
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Speaker 1: you said, in this modernization, they are putting such a
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Speaker 1: heavy focus on renewable technology, whether it be solar, hydro nuclear.
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Speaker 1: They have that nuclear fusion that they did, what burns
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Speaker 1: hotter than the temperature of the sun, sustained it for
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Speaker 1: a record period of time, storing electricity in pressure, and
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Speaker 1: doing all kinds of innovative stuff. And this is the
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Speaker 1: constant thing where you have these powers that have already developed,
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Speaker 1: who are trying to hold people back by saying no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: you can't do this, even though that they went through
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Speaker 1: an even dirtier path to get where they are.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, during the First Industrial Revolution, during the first and
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Speaker 2: Second Industrial Revolution, it was mostly powered by coal, you know,
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Speaker 2: which is way dirtier than oil and gas.
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Speaker 1: Right now, this next topic is going to be Weager related,
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Speaker 1: because I feel like we're getting to a point where
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Speaker 1: the US laid off of the Weager narrative in Shinjang
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Speaker 1: for a while just because of how awkward it would
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Speaker 1: have been to still pretend to care about Muslims in
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Speaker 1: China and still require people to imagine things that are
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Speaker 1: going on in Shinjong when they are supporting what Israel
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Speaker 1: is doing to Muslims in Gaza, which you can actually
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Speaker 1: see with your own eyes. And so I feel like
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Speaker 1: that narrative is going to come back. So I started
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Speaker 1: looking back at some of the old stuff and thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what is most likely to come back. And there was
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Speaker 1: one thing that I dropped before. There was an activist
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Speaker 1: or he was in charge a lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of these organizations called dolkin Isa, and he got caught
18:01
Speaker 1: up in a scandal and he did this, he did
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Speaker 1: this apology for it. I retweeted some of his stuff,
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Speaker 1: so he he did this really weird apology to where
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Speaker 1: he was like, uh, you know, it's because I had
18:16
Speaker 1: a highly stressful role with significant responsibilities, like almost like
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Speaker 1: making excuses for it. And I never really followed up
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Speaker 1: on it because I thought, oh, they took care of it.
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Speaker 1: They they got rid of him. He got removed from
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Speaker 1: that specific organization when I went when I went back.
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Speaker 1: So and also there's a lot of coverage about it too,
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Speaker 1: Like they actually had coverage about the human rights world
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Speaker 1: having a sexual harassment problem. This is him here, And
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Speaker 1: I thought, wow, okay, they actually had accountability. It turns
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Speaker 1: out not really. It turns out this issue with protecting
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Speaker 1: sexual predators, you know, and and as Professor Mirandi likes
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Speaker 1: to call it, the you know, Epstein regime, it permeates
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Speaker 1: even through to their human rights organizations. He's protected, he's
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Speaker 1: still there, he's still involved. And I let me see
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Speaker 1: if I've got it here. I tweeted about it, so
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Speaker 1: he yeah, once again, I thought he was already taken
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Speaker 1: care of, but it looks like he is still. He
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Speaker 1: just got shuffled over to the Weiger Center for Democracy
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Speaker 1: and Human Rights. And he also sits on the advisory
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Speaker 1: board for Washington, DC based Asia Freedom Institute, speaks at
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Speaker 1: congressional briefings, and attends events involving US policy makers.
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Speaker 2: So they don't care.
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Speaker 1: They don't actually care about any of this. And what
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Speaker 1: is really interesting too, is that one of the things
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Speaker 1: that they used to do is they used to constantly
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Speaker 1: come up with narratives that Weiager women are vulnerable in China,
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Speaker 1: or they made up the story of you know, Chinese
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Speaker 1: officials sleeping in the same houses as Uiger women. And
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Speaker 1: they really pretended to care about the vulnerability of women.
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Speaker 1: But one of the people who actually got caught up
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Speaker 1: in this as a victim was a person called Julie Millsap,
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Speaker 1: and she was like just this really outrageous kind of
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Speaker 1: activist and she worked directly for Rushana Boss. And I
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Speaker 1: want to talk briefly about Rushana Boss because she's an
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Speaker 1: interesting character too. I think you know her. You remember
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Speaker 1: when she did the when she first really went out
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Speaker 1: into the public was when she did her AMA You
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Speaker 1: remember that.
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Speaker 2: I know all of her, I don't know her personally,
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Speaker 2: just a disclaimer because she is Yeah, she's a Peddagon contractor.
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Speaker 2: I mean she she literally was contracted by Pentagon to
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Speaker 2: interrogate the OIGOR detainees that can go on a obay,
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Speaker 2: So that's right. Yet she's a human rights activist, yeah.
20:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she also worked for military contractors and she
21:01
Speaker 1: was there, you know, like I said, helping to interrogate
21:05
Speaker 1: Weiger detainees in Guantanamo Bay. But Julie Millsap was her
21:10
Speaker 1: direct employee. Julie Millsap worked directly with Rushana Boss. And
21:15
Speaker 1: I actually interviewed Rushana Boss and exposed a lot of
21:19
Speaker 1: her lies, like she was never involved in the NED before.
21:21
Speaker 1: She really wanted to distance herself from the NAD And
21:23
Speaker 1: I'll play a clip in a second about that and
21:25
Speaker 1: what she says the NED stands for once she does
21:27
Speaker 1: get caught in backtracks, and immediately after that interview, Julie
21:33
Speaker 1: Millsap came out on YouTube and did this criticizing video
21:36
Speaker 1: of me. She didn't actually address any of my points.
21:40
Speaker 1: She was just it was just like general stuff like,
21:43
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe this is somebody who
21:46
Speaker 1: wasn't subjected to Chinese propaganda growing up. Yet he is
21:49
Speaker 1: he is? Do you know he's a spouting Chinese propaganda?
21:52
Speaker 1: But she didn't actually address any of my points. And
21:56
Speaker 1: the reason I bring Rushana Boss up is because and
22:00
Speaker 1: she's pretending to care about vulnerable women in China, her
22:04
Speaker 1: direct report report ee, the person who's working directly with her,
22:08
Speaker 1: when she was sexually harassed by the organizations that she
22:14
Speaker 1: works with, she had nothing, nothing to say at all.
22:18
Speaker 1: And then there's something even more interesting about her not
22:20
Speaker 1: speaking up. But first I'll start with a little clip
22:23
Speaker 1: one minute and twenty two seconds of an excerpt of
22:25
Speaker 1: when I did interview Rushanabas to answer your question, I'm
22:28
Speaker 1: looking for the truth. To answer your question, the NED
22:30
Speaker 1: has funded eight million dollars worth of grants to WIGER
22:33
Speaker 1: groups in the US since two thousand and three. That's
22:36
Speaker 1: my answer to what do people potentially any D?
22:38
Speaker 6: What does any D stands for?
22:40
Speaker 1: That is National Endowment for the Democracy and its founder
22:44
Speaker 1: said that is we don't have anything.
22:47
Speaker 7: No, it's not.
22:48
Speaker 1: The NED doesn't care about democracy. They will install a
22:51
Speaker 1: dictatorship as long as it's friendly to us interests. This
22:53
Speaker 1: is you can go through you can go through a Nicaragua,
22:56
Speaker 1: you can go through all these countries and look what
22:58
Speaker 1: they do. The founder of the NED has said that
23:00
Speaker 1: what the CIA used to do covertly, they do now
23:03
Speaker 1: through the NED.
23:04
Speaker 6: And the any degree just started like October twenty nineteen,
23:09
Speaker 6: so it has been just one year.
23:11
Speaker 1: Because you're saying you were you were involved with the
23:14
Speaker 1: NED before then.
23:15
Speaker 6: No, No, campain Fris was established three years ago.
23:19
Speaker 1: But you were you I have, I have looked it up.
23:21
Speaker 1: You were elected as the director of communications for the
23:24
Speaker 1: Weaker American Association in two thousand and six. They were
23:28
Speaker 1: receiving well over one hundred thousand dollars per year from
23:30
Speaker 1: the ND. They had a two hundred and eighty thousand
23:33
Speaker 1: dollars grant in twenty sixteen, and they had additional fundings
23:35
Speaker 1: for their other programs. So you were involved with the
23:37
Speaker 1: NED in some capacity.
23:38
Speaker 6: Because because that just to like what the name said,
23:43
Speaker 6: democracy needs endowment for democracy that promotes democracy.
23:52
Speaker 1: She backtracked really quickly after that. She's like, well, well,
23:56
Speaker 1: you know, it's just because it has D in the name,
23:59
Speaker 1: you know, the democracy.
24:00
Speaker 2: You know.
24:01
Speaker 1: It's like she backtracked on that so quickly. So it
24:04
Speaker 1: didn't work out well for her. But but Julie came
24:07
Speaker 1: to her defense so quickly, and you would think even
24:09
Speaker 1: based on that, she would at least have something to
24:11
Speaker 1: say that, you know, I'm really sorry what happened to
24:13
Speaker 1: her or something like that, you know, should have she
24:15
Speaker 1: should have looked after the people that were working for
24:17
Speaker 1: her more. I got another clip which it's really interesting
24:23
Speaker 1: because you know, she Rushana Boss paints herself as this
24:27
Speaker 1: weager first person, like she's that's who she is, that's
24:30
Speaker 1: her identity. But then she like, I did this mashup
24:33
Speaker 1: clip where and I overlaid some music to it for
24:36
Speaker 1: dramatic effect, where she calls the American Founding Fathers her
24:43
Speaker 1: founding fathers, and she talks about her time in Guantanamo Bay.
24:48
Speaker 1: Now this clip, it's one minute forty five seconds. It
24:50
Speaker 1: repeats a small portion of what I already played because
24:52
Speaker 1: I just loaded this up today. I didn't have time
24:54
Speaker 1: to edit it. But it's just one minute and forty
24:56
Speaker 1: five seconds. We'll go with that, and then we'll continue.
24:59
Speaker 6: On the constitution we have in this great country. How
25:05
Speaker 6: are for fathers built this country and based on what
25:09
Speaker 6: values years ago? At the any degree just started like
25:14
Speaker 6: October twenty nineteen, so it has been just one year.
25:18
Speaker 1: Because so you're saying you were you were, You were
25:20
Speaker 1: involved with the NED before then, No.
25:23
Speaker 6: No campaign progress was established three years.
25:25
Speaker 2: Ago, but you were you I have, I have looked
25:29
Speaker 2: it up.
25:29
Speaker 1: You were elected as the director of communications for the
25:31
Speaker 1: Weaker American Association in two thousand and six. They were
25:35
Speaker 1: receiving well over one hundred thousand dollars per year from
25:37
Speaker 1: the ND. They had a two hundred and eighty thousand
25:40
Speaker 1: dollars grant in twenty sixteen, and they had additional fundings
25:43
Speaker 1: for their other programs. So you were involved with the
25:44
Speaker 1: ND in some.
25:45
Speaker 6: Capacity because because that just to like to what the
25:49
Speaker 6: name said, democracy needs endowment for democracy that promotes so.
25:56
Speaker 8: The campaigns a Vegas get no funding from the National
25:59
Speaker 8: Endowment of Democracy absolutely not.
26:02
Speaker 1: Are you funded by the n e D?
26:46
Speaker 2: Sorry sorry, yeah, yeah, I think I think that that
26:51
Speaker 2: her picture togethers was Marco Rubio, that just all right,
26:55
Speaker 2: like this she would be what journalist Yasha living would
27:02
Speaker 2: call weaponized immigrants, right, I mean, like like the Marco
27:06
Speaker 2: Rubio comes found that same thing, you know, the diaspora
27:10
Speaker 2: in the United States that has some kind of grudge
27:13
Speaker 2: against their homeland and they get to uh, you know,
27:17
Speaker 2: they get to oversized row in United States in the
27:21
Speaker 2: way US propagate propaganda to its own citizens about countries
27:27
Speaker 2: that US perceived as its enemies, and and you know,
27:30
Speaker 2: like they serve a row, they serve a purpose. This
27:33
Speaker 2: is why there's a whole reason why they're so high profile.
27:36
Speaker 2: This is why they get all these engagement uh, all
27:39
Speaker 2: these uh all these uh the why they get the podium.
27:43
Speaker 2: You know, this is how this is how people, I mean,
27:47
Speaker 2: this is just how America works. Unfortunately. I mean there's
27:51
Speaker 2: some very cringe diasporas in America. In order to fit in,
27:55
Speaker 2: you know, in order to like be more patriotic, be
27:59
Speaker 2: more active, more American, they try to you know, try
28:03
Speaker 2: to please the you know, the people who are trying
28:09
Speaker 2: to build a narrative. You know, they tell them what
28:11
Speaker 2: they like to do here, whatever they want about their homeland,
28:15
Speaker 2: whatever story they can make up. And that's how people
28:18
Speaker 2: make a living in the United States.
28:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. I mean, it's it's a
28:22
Speaker 1: I mean, she is absolutely, without doubt. You know, you
28:26
Speaker 1: talk about people being US State Department assets like, you know,
28:29
Speaker 1: because they do various things. She is a US State
28:32
Speaker 1: Department asset of intergalactic levels like this is uh, you
28:36
Speaker 1: know you can't get I mean, there on the ground
28:38
Speaker 1: in Guantanamo Bay, helping them interrogate the very same people
28:42
Speaker 1: that she's pretending to care about. It's absolutely a grift. Now,
28:46
Speaker 1: in terms of her staying silent already, it is interesting
28:50
Speaker 1: enough that she had nothing to say about the scandal
28:53
Speaker 1: in her organization, perpetuated by people who are still involved
28:57
Speaker 1: in the community, you know, creating a situation whereas people
29:00
Speaker 1: are still going to be vulnerable to these predators. There's
29:04
Speaker 1: something else interesting that I haven't heard anybody talk about,
29:07
Speaker 1: which is do you remember when there was a flotilla
29:10
Speaker 1: to Gaza where it was intercepted and there were one
29:14
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty people arrested, taken in and absolutely humiliated
29:17
Speaker 1: by Israel. Also, they were put in humiliating conditions. Did
29:20
Speaker 1: you know that there were two Wigers included in those
29:23
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty No I did I there were
29:26
Speaker 1: two Wagers. One is named a Valadin Assaf and the
29:30
Speaker 1: other one is Ibrahim Ishak, and they're involved in Weiger
29:37
Speaker 1: youth organizations. Now, this is interesting because most of the
29:41
Speaker 1: time you wouldn't have any Weager activists that are part
29:46
Speaker 1: of these bigger organizations doing anything against Israel. And as
29:50
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, after Israel started their slaughter of Palestinians,
29:54
Speaker 1: many very prominent Wiger voices in Washington, DC, working with
29:57
Speaker 1: the US State Department came out in full sup saying
30:00
Speaker 1: they fully support everything that Israel as doing. And that's
30:03
Speaker 1: when people realize they're like, oh, wow, these guys aren't
30:06
Speaker 1: actually about human rights now for these guys. So that's
30:09
Speaker 1: why it's interesting to see that there are Weager activists
30:12
Speaker 1: that are getting involved. Now it says they're in bigger
30:17
Speaker 1: youth groups. I'm assuming they're younger people. They may be
30:20
Speaker 1: people who truly believe that they're doing the right thing,
30:22
Speaker 1: like maybe they don't actually know much about China, but
30:24
Speaker 1: they've been co opted into this. Because I've spoken to
30:26
Speaker 1: other Tibetan people in now this is a different topic Tibetan,
30:31
Speaker 1: but same idea in Canada, who ended up admitting to
30:34
Speaker 1: me that they regret being co opted and brought into
30:38
Speaker 1: these anti China protests without ever first visiting China themselves.
30:42
Speaker 1: Because I said, I said, why wouldn't you go, you know,
30:45
Speaker 1: and just see it for yourself, because a lot of
30:46
Speaker 1: the stuff you're saying is totally BS. And he said, why.
30:49
Speaker 1: I wish I could, but I got involved in this
30:50
Speaker 1: and it's too late for me now, you know, I
30:52
Speaker 1: got brought into these groups. So that's what might be
30:55
Speaker 1: happening with these people. They are genuinely good people, but
30:59
Speaker 1: they got they they've been co opted into the false
31:02
Speaker 1: narrative on Shinjang, even though it's you know, they're descending
31:05
Speaker 1: from the same people. I mean, like, yeah, go ahead, first.
31:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the weaponize the ASPRA. It covers the
31:15
Speaker 2: whole spectrum. We saw that during the US Israel illegal
31:19
Speaker 2: war on Yourang. You know, you have all these persion
31:21
Speaker 2: the Aspera dancing to celebrate their homeland getting bombed. I mean, yeah,
31:27
Speaker 2: it's the same place.
31:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now again unsurprising, Rushana Bass had nothing to
31:36
Speaker 1: say for those two Wigers who were detained and humiliated
31:40
Speaker 1: by Israel for doing what they thought was right. And
31:44
Speaker 1: perhaps more important, none of the other major Wiger organizations
31:48
Speaker 1: said anything about it. The only reason I know about
31:51
Speaker 1: it is because there was one group called Justice for All,
31:55
Speaker 1: and they had something called a Save Wiger campaign. They
31:58
Speaker 1: spoke up for those two people. It took an organization
32:01
Speaker 1: that wasn't dedicated to weaker issues to speak up because
32:05
Speaker 1: once again, maybe they're involved in a wide range of issues. No,
32:09
Speaker 1: they are involved in a wide range of issues, and
32:11
Speaker 1: they really have been convinced that the Shinjag narrative is true.
32:15
Speaker 1: So it took them who are actually in it, believing
32:20
Speaker 1: that they're doing the right thing, to speak up for
32:22
Speaker 1: these two Wikers. Where the other actual dedicated Wiger groups
32:27
Speaker 1: in the US, who are not in it for the
32:29
Speaker 1: good of humanity, who are not in it because they're
32:31
Speaker 1: good people who know exactly what they're doing, know that
32:35
Speaker 1: they can't speak up for them because they can't go
32:37
Speaker 1: against Israel. It's against their grift, and that's the most
32:40
Speaker 1: important thing, is the grift, not the actual human rights issue.
32:44
Speaker 2: Karl, Well, you can't go against your founder, right, I
32:48
Speaker 2: mean you can't. You can't go against the people who
32:50
Speaker 2: pay your bills. They're they're paid. Determine what they cannot
32:55
Speaker 2: understand exactly.
32:57
Speaker 1: Now, now we will wrap that topic up and we
33:01
Speaker 1: will move on to us. This is an interesting one
33:04
Speaker 1: that you shared. Laura Trump, Trump's daughter in law, just
33:09
Speaker 1: raving about a raving about her ship. I'll play the
33:11
Speaker 1: video too, but here it is.
33:13
Speaker 6: So.
33:13
Speaker 1: This was posted by David Lee. I've posted many views
33:16
Speaker 1: about China backed by facts. As a result, I've been
33:18
Speaker 1: called anti American CCP sympathizer using the same criteria. Laura
33:22
Speaker 1: Trump went to Beijing with the president for a few days,
33:26
Speaker 1: and she is now anti American CCP sympathizer. If you
33:31
Speaker 1: were to use the same logic that was used against him,
33:34
Speaker 1: of course, wake up, you have been brainwashed all these years.
33:37
Speaker 1: Go and see it for yourself, like Laura Trump. Now,
33:39
Speaker 1: let's pull up that video and hear what she had
33:41
Speaker 1: to say direct kind of was wild.
33:44
Speaker 5: Honestly, what an incredible trip to be on. I was
33:47
Speaker 5: truly honored to have been there. It was amazing to
33:50
Speaker 5: see how different it was to physically be there on
33:55
Speaker 5: the ground versus what got reported here in the United States.
33:58
Speaker 5: Our society is in our countries is young and relativity
34:03
Speaker 5: to like the rest of the world.
34:05
Speaker 2: You know, you look at a.
34:06
Speaker 5: Society and a country like China. Man, they've been around
34:10
Speaker 5: for six thousand years or so, maybe a little bit more.
34:13
Speaker 5: We've been around for two hundred and fifty. So very
34:16
Speaker 5: interesting to see all the history. And I mean the
34:19
Speaker 5: coolest part, Eric and I got to go to the
34:22
Speaker 5: Great Wall of China, and honestly, it was so much
34:25
Speaker 5: more impressive than I anticipated. Highly recommend if you ever
34:29
Speaker 5: find yourself in China, check out the Great Wall.
34:38
Speaker 1: Carl, your reaction.
34:41
Speaker 2: What struck struck me the most is when she said, oh,
34:45
Speaker 2: China is great. It's nothing like what's been reported here
34:49
Speaker 2: in the United States, which is like a common reaction
34:53
Speaker 2: of people who traveled to China for the first time
34:56
Speaker 2: had been brainwashed by the Western media about what China
34:59
Speaker 2: is supposed to be like, and and like this is this,
35:03
Speaker 2: it's this is why I think China did a great
35:05
Speaker 2: thing by extending visa free policy to more countries, just
35:09
Speaker 2: to let people come and see for themselves. Now now
35:13
Speaker 2: they change their tooming Western media. Now they say China
35:17
Speaker 2: is weaponizing Western influencers. You know, they're weaponizing their tourist industry,
35:23
Speaker 2: trying to influence people's opinions, like, yeah, don't believe you're
35:29
Speaker 2: lying eyes guys. We the State Department knows fasts and
35:34
Speaker 2: that's why.
35:34
Speaker 1: That's why there was also a proposal in the US
35:37
Speaker 1: government to ban Americans from being able to travel to
35:40
Speaker 1: Shinjam because as soon as you go there, you realize
35:44
Speaker 1: all the narratives about you know, suppressing the language and
35:48
Speaker 1: all this stuff, it becomes impossible to maintain. But yeah,
35:53
Speaker 1: now they're trying to figure out how to contend with
35:56
Speaker 1: the fact that all it takes is a visit here. Now,
35:58
Speaker 1: of course you're gonna get people like Marco Rube who
36:00
Speaker 1: will never admit this was you know, this was his
36:02
Speaker 1: first time to China. But he is so driven in
36:06
Speaker 1: his agenda and his bias and whatever it is, whatever
36:09
Speaker 1: else it is, that he will never admit. But I'm
36:11
Speaker 1: sure he was here looking around going damn, why can't
36:16
Speaker 1: we have There.
36:17
Speaker 2: Was a clip there was a clip when he was
36:19
Speaker 2: inside the Hall of the People and he was looking
36:22
Speaker 2: at the ceiling, looking at the ceiling, it was like, lah,
36:29
Speaker 2: I mean.
36:30
Speaker 1: But yeah, he'll he'll never He'll never do what Laura
36:33
Speaker 1: Trump did and admit that though.
36:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's still have a he's trying to run
36:39
Speaker 2: for the president eight So you can't say that right
36:43
Speaker 2: right now.
36:44
Speaker 1: Of course, you did have some people come out after
36:47
Speaker 1: the visit in damage control who have been lifelong you know,
36:51
Speaker 1: anti China people. So we have one here, which is
36:55
Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson. So he says, I wish China was
36:58
Speaker 1: merely a friendly economic editor. Instead, they're an unfriendly adversary
37:04
Speaker 1: that wishes to replace America as the world's superpower. They've
37:08
Speaker 1: persuasively invaded American institutions pervasively and stolen vast amounts of
37:15
Speaker 1: our intellectual property. They don't fight fair and can't be trusted.
37:20
Speaker 1: Text is a bit small on this, but yeah, well,
37:22
Speaker 1: I'm going to play the video here and we'll see
37:26
Speaker 1: what we now that is about. We can talk about
37:29
Speaker 1: that a little bit more in a second one. This
37:31
Speaker 1: is about I believe the mayor who was convicted of
37:37
Speaker 1: being a China agent or something like that. I think
37:40
Speaker 1: this is the same story. Let's play the video and
37:42
Speaker 1: see that's why. What do you want the American public
37:45
Speaker 1: to know about what we have found out here?
37:48
Speaker 7: Well, Sandra, Well, the American public ought to read suns
37:51
Speaker 7: Who's Art of War because it's exactly the kind of
37:55
Speaker 7: warfare that China conducts across the board their long term thinkers, thinkers.
38:00
Speaker 7: They have pervasively invaded America with the investments into our
38:03
Speaker 7: university system. They have you know, plundered America to the
38:06
Speaker 7: children of probably trillions of dollars of our intellectual property,
38:09
Speaker 7: helped build up their economy. They just don't fight fair,
38:12
Speaker 7: and this is one example of that as well. So
38:15
Speaker 7: now we need to be on guard. I wish China
38:17
Speaker 7: was a friendly competitive economic rival, but they're an unfriendly adversary.
38:22
Speaker 7: They want to replace us, which would be very.
38:24
Speaker 2: Bad for the world.
38:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean this is really interesting when they
38:33
Speaker 1: say that we when people say this, we wish that
38:36
Speaker 1: they were just a friendly adversary or sorry, you know,
38:39
Speaker 1: a friendly partner or whatever. It's however he worded it.
38:43
Speaker 1: They're what they're usually really saying is they wish that
38:45
Speaker 1: China stayed in its place that they didn't like. They
38:48
Speaker 1: always talk about stealing innovation and stuff like that, Like
38:50
Speaker 1: China is creating a level of product that's not even
38:53
Speaker 1: produced anywhere else anymore in many cases, and so what
38:56
Speaker 1: they're really saying is that they wish they just remained
38:58
Speaker 1: the factory of the world and that they still owned
39:01
Speaker 1: all the IP and that they took their orders. Now
39:05
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the specific Mari case a little bit
39:06
Speaker 1: after that, but let's get your reaction first.
39:09
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean again, what he says says more about
39:13
Speaker 2: himself than China. He says, China is obsess of displacing
39:16
Speaker 2: the United States as a world superpower. Now, this is
39:19
Speaker 2: an entirely American talking points. It's always American afraid their
39:24
Speaker 2: top dog status as a global hedgemon get displaced. China
39:28
Speaker 2: has no interest to be a world hedgemoonk like the
39:32
Speaker 2: United States. China just want to make China more prosperous
39:35
Speaker 2: and better place to live. And what they cannot accept,
39:41
Speaker 2: like you say, is China looking like China is doing well,
39:45
Speaker 2: especially China is doing well compared to the United States
39:47
Speaker 2: because a lot of people, even the politician, understand now,
39:50
Speaker 2: US is in decline. You know, hold, Donald Trump's MAGA
39:54
Speaker 2: movement is based on the premises that America is in decline.
39:58
Speaker 2: That's why he needs to make America great again. But
40:01
Speaker 2: when they see China rising that, you know, automatically China
40:06
Speaker 2: has to be it must be cheating. They have. They
40:10
Speaker 2: definitely did something unfair, you know, because that is how
40:14
Speaker 2: America rose. You know, America build itself on the back
40:17
Speaker 2: of genocide, slavery, and so China and exploitation. So China
40:23
Speaker 2: must be doing something equally shady. And you know, the
40:26
Speaker 2: whole accusation about intellectual theft of property, and I'm sure
40:30
Speaker 2: there are instadt industrial espionage going on. I mean that
40:33
Speaker 2: happens all throughout the history and the United States. United
40:37
Speaker 2: States did it during the Second Industrial Revolution when they
40:40
Speaker 2: rip off ip property of British But overall, the majority
40:46
Speaker 2: of the tech transfer that actually happened is is through
40:53
Speaker 2: you know, user is mostly above the table. It's when
40:56
Speaker 2: the Western company comes to China and Chinese governments say hey,
41:00
Speaker 2: we will trade you in exchange for the market, access
41:03
Speaker 2: to the Chinese market and allow you to access Chinese labor.
41:08
Speaker 2: You must do tech transfer, So it's all above the table.
41:13
Speaker 2: Like especially the for example the build out of the
41:17
Speaker 2: high speed railroad. Well, China invited the Japanese firm, the
41:21
Speaker 2: Canadian firm, and German firm and French firm and told
41:25
Speaker 2: them to compete each other. And the condition is, if
41:27
Speaker 2: you don't do tech transfer, we will go to the
41:29
Speaker 2: other guys and maybe they will. And this is how
41:33
Speaker 2: it happened. So it's not theft. This is this is
41:36
Speaker 2: this is very public above the table. Another facet of
41:41
Speaker 2: tech transfer happened is China said a lot of students abroad.
41:45
Speaker 2: Some of these students after having been working the West
41:49
Speaker 2: in the for ten twenty years, and they reached like
41:53
Speaker 2: the bamboo ceiling, and then they realize they can just
41:56
Speaker 2: return to China and be founders of companies, be VP ease,
42:00
Speaker 2: and then they come back and brain their knowledge with
42:03
Speaker 2: them and that that that's something that now a lot
42:06
Speaker 2: of Americans are also complaining about, which is really odd
42:08
Speaker 2: because a lot of the yeah, a lot of American
42:14
Speaker 2: research institution and science research very dependent on immigrant labor,
42:21
Speaker 2: like like Chinese, Indian, Eastern Europeans and Russians. They you know,
42:26
Speaker 2: I know this because you know, I went to my
42:29
Speaker 2: dad's grad uh lab in in University of Illinois at Chicago.
42:34
Speaker 2: It's a a bunch of Chinese UH graduate students working
42:38
Speaker 2: there and and they they have been reaping the benefit
42:42
Speaker 2: of the brain draining the world. And right now it's
42:48
Speaker 2: just a little bit trickle of reverse brain draining is
42:51
Speaker 2: going back to China because China has developed so that
42:54
Speaker 2: they're done now packed panicking calling China a cheater, like
42:58
Speaker 2: the whole But the whole reason, like you say, is
43:01
Speaker 2: because China is becoming self confident, is becoming a developed
43:06
Speaker 2: power that's a near peer competitor to the United States,
43:09
Speaker 2: and that's a position they're not comfortable with because for
43:12
Speaker 2: the first time they feel that the America's top dog
43:16
Speaker 2: position is being challenged, even though like that's not even
43:19
Speaker 2: intention of China, it's them. America is feeling insecure about
43:24
Speaker 2: their own position in the world and the way their
43:27
Speaker 2: own society is going. And then then to project all
43:30
Speaker 2: that fears to China.
43:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they never examined meaningfully what their brain
43:37
Speaker 1: drain on the rest of the world, from countries that
43:40
Speaker 1: haven't even sufficiently developed yet, what that means to the world.
43:46
Speaker 1: And now you have a mini version of that where
43:48
Speaker 1: it's just Chinese people saying I think I want to
43:51
Speaker 1: go home. You know, China created a country and the
43:53
Speaker 1: conditions where it's attractive enough to return home. One of
43:56
Speaker 1: the things that so many of these right wingers want
43:59
Speaker 1: foreigners to do any and and suddenly it's it's cheating
44:04
Speaker 1: when it's you know, mini school in compared to the
44:07
Speaker 1: version that they rely on and have relied on for
44:09
Speaker 1: a long time. You're absolutely right now in terms of
44:14
Speaker 1: critical comments, We're gonna move on to one from Rick Scott.
44:17
Speaker 1: Now he I'm not gonna tell you what this is
44:19
Speaker 1: about before I play it, but when you're listening to it,
44:22
Speaker 1: before he gets to the end, I want you guys
44:25
Speaker 1: to guess which country he's talking about, Which country does
44:29
Speaker 1: this to another population? And then there'll obviously be a
44:34
Speaker 1: twist at the end of the video, but at least
44:36
Speaker 1: based on the facts of what he's talking about, which
44:40
Speaker 1: country do you think it best basically encapulate, encapsulates. I'm
44:46
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna open the comments while I'm doing this,
44:48
Speaker 1: just to see if anybody says which country actually does
44:50
Speaker 1: this and see if you get it.
44:52
Speaker 9: Here we go, What if there was one country that
44:56
Speaker 9: could shut down the water, like tomorrow you get no water,
44:59
Speaker 9: or shut down electricity, tomorrow no electricity, or shut down
45:03
Speaker 9: all of our ports so we couldn't bring anything else
45:05
Speaker 9: into the country, or shut down our internet, any of
45:08
Speaker 9: these things. Guess what, there's one country that wants.
45:11
Speaker 1: To do all those things.
45:12
Speaker 9: We have got the plant, we have enemies, We've got
45:15
Speaker 9: a secure country. I have a couple of bills. One
45:17
Speaker 9: would secure ports and the other one would put together
45:20
Speaker 9: task for so throw agencies to get after this, say
45:24
Speaker 9: we're gonna protect our electrical grid or water, our ports,
45:27
Speaker 9: all these things, and by the way, stop buying anything
45:29
Speaker 9: from China.
45:32
Speaker 2: So basically he's saying he's scared that China will do
45:36
Speaker 2: to the United States what United States do to other countries.
45:40
Speaker 2: I mean, like that's that's.
45:43
Speaker 1: That's there's something more specific. Let me see if I
45:48
Speaker 1: didn't see that video come up at all, but it
45:49
Speaker 1: played the whole video for you. You saw it, okay, yeah, yeah,
45:55
Speaker 1: So here we go exactly, cutting off water, cutting off communications,
46:02
Speaker 1: cutting off electricity. These are all things that they Israel
46:07
Speaker 1: says that they will do or have done, bombing their
46:12
Speaker 1: reservoirs to basically, you know, deprive them of drinking water. Also,
46:17
Speaker 1: Yet Rick Scott is a massive supporter of Israel, and
46:21
Speaker 1: here he is talking about China that doesn't even have
46:24
Speaker 1: this ability in America to begin with, and has never
46:26
Speaker 1: expressed a desire to do such thing, and saying that
46:30
Speaker 1: even me imagining a world where this is possible is
46:34
Speaker 1: outrageous enough, while he actively supports the country that does
46:38
Speaker 1: those things to another population. I just thought it was wild.
46:41
Speaker 1: Like when I was listening to it, I was like, what,
46:43
Speaker 1: that's exactly the country that he supports.
46:46
Speaker 2: Did you see that reply, I replied to his post.
46:50
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have access to that. But
46:52
Speaker 2: Rick Scott is a senator from his congressman from Florida
46:57
Speaker 2: who said Chinese gar it's a national security threat to
47:02
Speaker 2: the United States.
47:04
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I think I remember seeing something
47:09
Speaker 1: like that, but I just skipped over it because I
47:11
Speaker 1: was like, this can't be real, Like.
47:13
Speaker 2: It is it is? It is? It is said, he said,
47:17
Speaker 2: Chinese garlic, and it's actually on his own personal website.
47:21
Speaker 2: Like he said, Chinese garlic is a national security to
47:24
Speaker 2: the United States. I mean he said something bogus. He said, oh,
47:28
Speaker 2: because in China they used human fecies to water the plants,
47:32
Speaker 2: and it's it's a it's a great health hazard, it's
47:35
Speaker 2: a national it's a it's a national health issue, and
47:38
Speaker 2: that will affect the national security of the United States,
47:41
Speaker 2: which is yes, Okay, back in the nineteen eighties, it's true.
47:44
Speaker 2: And back then China did not have enough chemical fertilizer.
47:48
Speaker 2: You had to import chemical fertilizers. It's true. And in
47:52
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties, you know, they did use human excrement
47:55
Speaker 2: as as as fertilizer. But today, nowadays, everybody uses a
48:00
Speaker 2: chemical fertilizer just because it's so much cheaper and widely available.
48:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I usually find when somebody goes on a
48:07
Speaker 1: wild campaign like this against the specific product, usually somebody
48:11
Speaker 1: from that specific industry in the US has lobbied them
48:14
Speaker 1: to do so. Like you know, for example, they lobbied
48:19
Speaker 1: the government saying that we need to protect the aluminum
48:22
Speaker 1: industry in the US, but we can't really compete with
48:25
Speaker 1: Chinese aluminum. So magically, within two or three months of
48:29
Speaker 1: that lobbying and that cash that was thrown around on
48:33
Speaker 1: the issue, America found that there's potentially weiger slave labor
48:38
Speaker 1: in the aluminum industry. So now we're gonna look at
48:41
Speaker 1: putting bands on it. And it's happened over and over again.
48:44
Speaker 1: It happened in the seafood industry, it happened obviously in cotton.
48:47
Speaker 1: It happened in all kinds of things. But usually you
48:50
Speaker 1: see beforehand artificial sweeteners too. You see the companies related
48:56
Speaker 1: to that, US companies lobbying the government saying we have
48:58
Speaker 1: to find a way, and then that becomes their magic
49:01
Speaker 1: item where they just say, oh, weager slave labor, and
49:03
Speaker 1: they don't actually have to prove it.
49:05
Speaker 2: You know what they're coming after? Now, La booboo made
49:09
Speaker 2: from Shinjiang cotton farm by by by, weigor slave labor,
49:14
Speaker 2: So we must boyco la booboo. Maybe that's Disney.
49:18
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Disney saying, oh, we can't have a character
49:21
Speaker 1: that is more beloved than you know, Mickey Mouse or whatever,
49:24
Speaker 1: you know, who knows, I don't know. They could just
49:27
Speaker 1: be them just losing their mind at this point. All right,
49:31
Speaker 1: So where were we? Now we have I think this
49:33
Speaker 1: is one that you sent me. But this is really interesting.
49:36
Speaker 1: It's so counterproductive. But Belgium merges EU to save industry
49:41
Speaker 1: by getting tough on China, Like what go ahead, Carl.
49:47
Speaker 2: What industry does Belgian have? I mean, I don't like
49:50
Speaker 2: to hear. I'm surprised to hear Belgian industry. It's it's uh,
49:57
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I mean, like maybe chocolate. I don't know
50:01
Speaker 2: what what Belgian industry there is. Maybe people can.
50:05
Speaker 1: Let us know in the comments and the idea of
50:09
Speaker 1: some of the most efficient manufacturing practices and equipment and
50:13
Speaker 1: know how, being in China, it would make sense to
50:16
Speaker 1: partner with China to build up your industry because obviously
50:21
Speaker 1: they are receptive to the idea about building their factories
50:24
Speaker 1: in their countries. That's exactly what Trump was trying to arrange. Also,
50:28
Speaker 1: even Trump has woken up to that possibility of invigorating
50:32
Speaker 1: your own economy, while while the EU is apparently wanting
50:37
Speaker 1: to go in the completely opposite direction. I mean, it's
50:39
Speaker 1: completely complete.
50:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. Germany, actually a lot of German business have doubled
50:43
Speaker 2: down on their investment in China.
50:45
Speaker 1: The B what is it?
50:47
Speaker 2: BS and F what are like that that big petrochemical
50:50
Speaker 2: company they have to have poor They open a huge
50:53
Speaker 2: plan in China, which which makes sense because in Germany
50:57
Speaker 2: they cut themselves off from cheap rushing gas. You know,
51:01
Speaker 2: at least they won't have that problem in China.
51:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a two way, two
51:06
Speaker 1: way thing where it's not only a matter of partnering
51:09
Speaker 1: with Chinese companies in their their countries, but gaining access
51:13
Speaker 1: to China for whatever products they want.
51:16
Speaker 10: Like what want to like?
51:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's I mean? Have friendly relations with China and
51:21
Speaker 1: ship them your chocolate? Isn't that gonna Isn't that gonna
51:24
Speaker 1: help you? Or whatever else it is you make tulips?
51:27
Speaker 1: I don't know what else do they got bicycles? Do
51:31
Speaker 1: they make? Like they're not gonna be able to compete
51:32
Speaker 1: with Chinese bicycles granted, but no, it's not gonna happen.
51:39
Speaker 1: All right, what do we get next? So, oh, this
51:42
Speaker 1: is another one that you brought up. This is she
51:43
Speaker 1: got ratioed so badly in the comments. But here we go.
51:46
Speaker 1: You you you talk to talk about this one for us?
51:50
Speaker 4: Oh?
51:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So this is she is a Wall Street
51:53
Speaker 2: Journal reporter and she, uh, she put a whole article
51:58
Speaker 2: about how she's leaving in China because you know, China
52:02
Speaker 2: is becoming increasingly hostile to foreigners. And her example is
52:07
Speaker 2: when she got into a taxi and the that she
52:11
Speaker 2: was asking about the map the taxi driver was using,
52:15
Speaker 2: and the taxi says, oh, I can't tell you. It's
52:18
Speaker 2: it's national secret. I mean, the taxi driver replied, is
52:21
Speaker 2: pulling her leg, just trolling her. And then and then
52:24
Speaker 2: she said, oh that. The taxi driver proceed to, after
52:27
Speaker 2: finding out I'm Japanese, proceed to lecturing me about, you know,
52:31
Speaker 2: the Japanese war, crying World War two. I'm like so
52:35
Speaker 2: like you so, and and this is her example, saying,
52:40
Speaker 2: like China is being increasingly hostile. Oh, I mean, why
52:43
Speaker 2: would China just open up the visa free policy for
52:48
Speaker 2: many countries in Europe and North America now? And and
52:52
Speaker 2: and the whole point is to get people to come.
52:56
Speaker 2: So what she's doing exactly the same thing that they
53:00
Speaker 2: they're trying to do damage control. Now. They know a
53:02
Speaker 2: lot of people are coming to China to see it
53:04
Speaker 2: for themselves what Chinese really like. So they're trying to
53:07
Speaker 2: preemp that and say, oh, you know, Chinese government is
53:10
Speaker 2: bring Washington their citizens to be really hostile to the foreigners.
53:14
Speaker 2: Look what happened to me. It's just But what she
53:18
Speaker 2: doesn't reveal is she's leaving China for a positioning Washington
53:23
Speaker 2: to cover to be the national security reporter, you know,
53:28
Speaker 2: so you know, she's embedded with the on the military
53:32
Speaker 2: industrial complex in Washington. I mean, Chinese people should be
53:37
Speaker 2: distrustful of our.
53:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, And she's setting up her origin story
53:42
Speaker 1: also so that she can, you know, add credibility to
53:45
Speaker 1: the inevitable China bad stories that she's going to have
53:48
Speaker 1: to make. I remember there was a fairly famous anti
53:51
Speaker 1: China YouTuber who made up this whole story about how
53:55
Speaker 1: he just barely escaped China, you know, and it was
53:58
Speaker 1: just this most ridicul thing, like he was like riding
54:04
Speaker 1: around in his motorcycle in Huazo and he said the
54:06
Speaker 1: police were looking for him, but they didn't think to
54:09
Speaker 1: check at his house where he was, his apartment, and
54:12
Speaker 1: then he left China through exit immigration into Hong Kong.
54:15
Speaker 1: He'as oh, I barely escaped. They were looking for me.
54:18
Speaker 1: You don't think the exit immigration people would know that.
54:21
Speaker 1: And then it turns out he actually came back to
54:22
Speaker 1: China after that, but this is the story that he
54:24
Speaker 1: painted to his audience so that he could gain credibility
54:28
Speaker 1: as this persecuted person from this evil country. So she
54:32
Speaker 1: might be setting up that story for herself also now
54:35
Speaker 1: she obviously she was ratioed in the comments also where
54:40
Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying this is not the
54:42
Speaker 1: experience of foreigners in China. I've been here for eighteen
54:46
Speaker 1: years now, and I can say the same thing, that
54:48
Speaker 1: is not the experience. And if somebody of a taxi
54:50
Speaker 1: driver all of a sudden, when you know the US
54:53
Speaker 1: had taken mung Wanzo hostage in Canada, if the taxi
54:56
Speaker 1: driver had told me, oh, man, what your country is
54:59
Speaker 1: doing to mungwan Oh it is terrible, This is like outrageous.
55:02
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think, oh my god, I'm being attacked. I
55:04
Speaker 1: would have to be extremely sensitive and so like, oh,
55:09
Speaker 1: how can you say something about, you know, bad about Canada,
55:12
Speaker 1: even if I didn't agree with them, even if I
55:14
Speaker 1: was like, eh, you know, I don't know, that's not
55:17
Speaker 1: an attack, and what are of course Chinese people are
55:20
Speaker 1: going to want to talk about what Japan did, especially
55:24
Speaker 1: because there was never really a true reconciliation for them,
55:28
Speaker 1: like especially not like you know, compared to what Germany
55:31
Speaker 1: went through in terms of a very deep rooted reconciliation process.
55:37
Speaker 1: Never mind, they're now supporting you know, doing the same
55:40
Speaker 1: thing to the Palestinians. But that aside, there at least
55:43
Speaker 1: was an understanding and a nationwide effort to almost shame
55:48
Speaker 1: themselves for it, whereas it seems like it's the complete
55:51
Speaker 1: opposite in Japan. And you'll even get people who can
55:54
Speaker 1: support what happened without any major consequences. So of course,
55:57
Speaker 1: of course this is especially if they were elderly. This
56:00
Speaker 1: is what they're gonna talk about.
56:02
Speaker 2: And you know, and and there's also an insidious assumption
56:05
Speaker 2: that Chinese people cannot have their own independent opinions on anything,
56:09
Speaker 2: like you must be the government that's brainwashing them to
56:12
Speaker 2: hold this opinion. It's like, why wouldn't it like a
56:15
Speaker 2: Chinese taxi driver uncle be angry about Japanese war crying
56:19
Speaker 2: War two? I mean, like like why it has to
56:22
Speaker 2: be something implanted in his praying by like a government
56:27
Speaker 2: chip or something like this is just ridiculous.
56:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, definitely, I had Oh man, I don't have
56:34
Speaker 1: the video here. I got to see if I can
56:36
Speaker 1: load it up while we're talking. But there's the one
56:40
Speaker 1: Wangi question in Canada. It was a clip from ten
56:42
Speaker 1: years ago. Well, we'll load that up. I'll remember to
56:45
Speaker 1: the load that up next week because I didn't get
56:47
Speaker 1: the video ready. It'll take it'll take too long to
56:49
Speaker 1: find that. But that was a really good one. We'll
56:51
Speaker 1: come back to that next time. Now you posted something
56:54
Speaker 1: on the overall trust factor in on China. This goes
56:59
Speaker 1: back the shift I was talking about too. Most countries
57:01
Speaker 1: in the world now sees the US as the biggest
57:04
Speaker 1: threat to the world, except for the EU to U,
57:08
Speaker 1: which views Russia as the bigger threat. Only Japan sees
57:11
Speaker 1: China as the biggest threat because they're scared that China
57:13
Speaker 1: will do to them what their grandpas did in China.
57:15
Speaker 1: Going back, going back to the same thing. But yeah,
57:18
Speaker 1: you want to you want to talk a little bit
57:19
Speaker 1: more about.
57:20
Speaker 2: That basically, Like I even see some Japanese ask that question.
57:24
Speaker 2: So like, Okay, I understand why Chinese people would have
57:28
Speaker 2: uh strong feelings towards Japan, but why would we Japanese
57:32
Speaker 2: people hate the Chinese. You know what what they what
57:34
Speaker 2: have they down to us? Right? I mean, like it's
57:38
Speaker 2: like I think it has to be that that psychological fear.
57:42
Speaker 2: You know, they know they know what their grandpa did
57:45
Speaker 2: in China in World War II was bad, so they so.
57:48
Speaker 2: But but but their way of trying to push away
57:51
Speaker 2: the guilt is trying to say, okay, well the Chinese
57:55
Speaker 2: are the bad people for keep on bring this up.
57:58
Speaker 2: You know what, why do I keep on bringing this out?
58:00
Speaker 2: It happened eighty years ago? You know, of course, can
58:04
Speaker 2: you imagine like if they like some uh some some
58:09
Speaker 2: events come a murdering holocaust, you you tell those people
58:13
Speaker 2: it's like eighty years ago, get over it, like get
58:17
Speaker 2: over it. But that's how that's how the English, like
58:22
Speaker 2: even the English language mainstream media often do lecture to
58:25
Speaker 2: Chinese people on this issue. It's like, oh, but is
58:28
Speaker 2: this this this eighty years ago? You know why why
58:30
Speaker 2: can't you just just move on? Like it wasn't that
58:36
Speaker 2: long ago? Man, Like my grandpa, my grandparents both said,
58:39
Speaker 2: my grandparents has when experienced through it, it's you know,
58:43
Speaker 2: like they told told me the stories. It wasn't that
58:46
Speaker 2: long ago.
58:47
Speaker 6: You know.
58:47
Speaker 2: My grandpa had to was forced to salute at every job,
58:52
Speaker 2: you know, every Japanese soldier and checkpointing in his hometowngue
58:55
Speaker 2: and when he refused, he got to slap across his
58:58
Speaker 2: face to public humiliate, like those things like you remember
59:03
Speaker 2: those things you know, you hear, you grew up hearing
59:05
Speaker 2: these stories, you know, and then you have and like
59:08
Speaker 2: I can't under I can even understand more, like the
59:11
Speaker 2: Japanese people try to deny their war crimes and stuff,
59:15
Speaker 2: but like there's some English language mainstream media, you know,
59:19
Speaker 2: you have all these like Westerners, you know, opinion pieces
59:23
Speaker 2: telling the Chinese people to move on. You're like, what
59:26
Speaker 2: it's like just because it's not your trauma, exactly, it's
59:30
Speaker 2: not your trauma. You don't get you have nothing to say.
59:32
Speaker 2: You cannot you know, lecture other people about how they
59:37
Speaker 2: deal with their own trauma, right, I mean, just just
59:39
Speaker 2: just just just the best thing you just be quiet,
59:41
Speaker 2: Like if you have nothing good to say at all,
59:43
Speaker 2: just be quiet.
59:45
Speaker 1: You know, this is this is the double standard against
59:48
Speaker 1: you know, uh, non Westerners or non Western allies. Like,
59:52
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I think going back to Belgium,
59:53
Speaker 1: I think they still have statues of Leopold in their
59:57
Speaker 1: country despite what they did to people in the Congo,
1:00:01
Speaker 1: which was I mean one of the greatest atrocities of
1:00:04
Speaker 1: all time. I mean that would be that would be
1:00:07
Speaker 1: the equivalent of still having Hitler statues in Germany. But
1:00:12
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And and so it's the same thing
1:00:14
Speaker 1: with the Chinese. It's like, come on, get over it.
1:00:16
Speaker 1: But they would never ever ever say that to Jewish people.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be the main example. That would
1:00:23
Speaker 1: just be out of the question. But they can't see
1:00:25
Speaker 1: how that is a double standard. Now, oh, so we
1:00:30
Speaker 1: have somebody who refused to take to take a pledge
1:00:34
Speaker 1: while taking office, and then it somehow became about China.
1:00:38
Speaker 1: This is your your tweet, We'll let you take this. Yeah,
1:00:41
Speaker 1: California congressional candidate refuses to say pledge of allegiance, turns
1:00:47
Speaker 1: back on US flag. Well, yeah, she's Chinese. If she
1:00:51
Speaker 1: does that, her family will be put in prison back
1:00:53
Speaker 1: in China. She literally works for the CCP karl her reactions.
1:00:56
Speaker 2: So her ethnic background, she's my her name is my Wong,
1:01:02
Speaker 2: and her ethnic background is Muang. Her parents who are
1:01:05
Speaker 2: Mong refugees doing from the Vietnam War, you know, because
1:01:11
Speaker 2: United States were weaponized the Wong ethnic group against the
1:01:15
Speaker 2: vietcom and so a lot of them escaped after the
1:01:20
Speaker 2: Vietnam War II settled in the United States. This is
1:01:22
Speaker 2: again validates Foreign Minister Wang Ye's statement. Wong Y famously
1:01:28
Speaker 2: said when he met with a foreign minister of Japan
1:01:31
Speaker 2: and South Korea. It's like, look to the Americans who
1:01:34
Speaker 2: are all Asians, they can't talents apart, like where they
1:01:37
Speaker 2: want to look at you and they're just thinking you're
1:01:40
Speaker 2: you're all Asian. I mean, like he was attacked by
1:01:44
Speaker 2: all the English mainstream media saying Wang Ye has been racist.
1:01:48
Speaker 2: You know, Wang Yi is the one that's been racist.
1:01:50
Speaker 2: In fact, Wan just making an observation. He's just making
1:01:53
Speaker 2: an observation of what actually exists in the United States.
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Speaker 2: I mean, here you have like an ethnic Wong woman
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Speaker 2: who because she forces what a reason refused to you know,
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Speaker 2: like a pledge allegiance to the flag or whatever, and
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Speaker 2: that they just saw her East Asian phase and said
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Speaker 2: call her a Chinese infiltrator. You know, like this is
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Speaker 2: one yet again vindicated. Well e vindicate.
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Speaker 1: I've got a little bit of a bonus clip here too.
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Speaker 1: I meant to slott it in before that one, but
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Speaker 1: this is okay. And I'm not sure if you saw this.
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Speaker 1: It is Mike Pompeo and Victoria Neuland getting schooled on
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Speaker 1: their support for Israel and other things. It's one minute
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Speaker 1: and fifty six seconds long. I absolutely love this clip,
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Speaker 1: so I just wanted to share it with everybody. Here
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Speaker 1: we go.
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Speaker 10: This is what human decency demands. You don't let a
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Speaker 10: radical regime close off the global economy by firing shiheat
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Speaker 10: missiles into nations that did nothing right. They're firing into
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Speaker 10: civilians in the United Aram everetts even just this week.
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Speaker 10: That's just not something that the world can accept. And
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Speaker 10: so this monster is worthy of the hunt.
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Speaker 4: You do know, Mike, that we started the war?
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Speaker 10: No, absolutely not absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Not, oh no, no, no no.
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Speaker 8: See, they weren't firing those missiles in Weld, Israel and the.
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Speaker 4: United States attacked Iran.
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Speaker 10: Well do you understand, Well, welcome to nineteen seventy nine,
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Speaker 10: when the revolutionary regime began to kill Europeans.
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Speaker 8: You do know that we overthrew the democratic, the elected
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Speaker 8: government thirty four.
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Speaker 10: Just just for the record, you talk, you were talking
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Speaker 10: about this.
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Speaker 4: You don't think Iran has You think Iran's forgotten about that? No,
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Speaker 4: I suspect that, you know, I think Iran remembers that
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Speaker 4: we supported Saddamus saying in the Iran Iraq War. I
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Speaker 4: neget about this. I know that other countries have history, do.
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Speaker 10: You think Iran as a monster.
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Speaker 8: No, okay, okay, I don't think they're I don't think
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Speaker 8: they're just arm I'm glad I don't live there. I
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Speaker 8: think many countries do many bad things, including my own,
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Speaker 8: and I wouldn't call the United States a monster.
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Speaker 3: Do you also remember that we wouldn't have had October
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Speaker 3: seventh if we hadn't had Iranian support for Hamask.
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Speaker 8: I wouldn't have had October seventh if we've gotten peace
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Speaker 8: in the Middle East.
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Speaker 4: And that's a much longer story.
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Speaker 3: It is, and every single US president has tried and
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Speaker 3: will continue to not very hard, but.
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Speaker 1: It is very important.
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Speaker 10: And emphasize there's no evidence that Iran even knew about
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Speaker 10: October seventh, much less goodness, Oh.
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Speaker 3: My goodness, I'm sure it is lovely to live.
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Speaker 1: No evidence the record of that.
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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I love it.
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Speaker 2: And you know that. You notice Victoria and Newland never
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Speaker 2: address at the actual question. She just say, oh my god,
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Speaker 2: I can't believe you believe that. But he actually never
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Speaker 2: addressed the actual claim, like where's the evidence?
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Speaker 4: And then when? When?
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Speaker 2: When?
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Speaker 4: When? Mike?
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Speaker 1: When? Mike Pompeo kept going back further and further and further,
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Speaker 1: and then finally when he talked about overthrowing the government,
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Speaker 1: he kind of he stumbled there and he was trying
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Speaker 1: to you could see he was trying to change the topic.
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Speaker 1: And it's amazing because they previously they were smart enough
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Speaker 1: to know that they shouldn't put themselves in this situation
1:05:17
Speaker 1: because they cannot support what they're what they're saying. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if they've just gotten so arrogant with the
1:05:24
Speaker 1: you know, the bubble that they've been protected by, that
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Speaker 1: they didn't realize how this would go down if they
1:05:29
Speaker 1: actually put themselves in front of a couple of people
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Speaker 1: who really understand history and who their BS is not
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Speaker 1: going to fly in front of. Like I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 1: they probably regretted doing that, Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Because you know, before they just have to deal with
1:05:44
Speaker 2: like what whatever maga crowd they have to preach to.
1:05:47
Speaker 2: Now now they're dealing with like actual professors, which you know,
1:05:51
Speaker 2: really the whole Irong War really shows the contrast. Right,
1:05:55
Speaker 2: you have the Iranian leadership who are like the PhD
1:05:59
Speaker 2: in county in philosophy, and then you have the United
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Speaker 2: States ruled by bad TV personality, right like the reality
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Speaker 2: TV show host Donald Trump and the Fox Live Show
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Speaker 2: host Pete has said the contrast couldn't be more clear. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we have a few remaining items just to wrap
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Speaker 1: up with here. Oh, this is kind of fun. This
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Speaker 1: is something that people have been retweeting recently. Remember when
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Speaker 1: they said Trump would get us into a full blown
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Speaker 1: war with Iron. Times like that, you should make us
1:06:36
Speaker 1: all realize how lucky we were to have Trump, his
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Speaker 1: strength and resolve.
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Speaker 2: Four. There's always a tweet. There's always a tweet.
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Speaker 1: This is when you shared. It was a while ago.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you still want to talk about
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Speaker 1: this one. You sent this one to me? This one?
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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean like here, you are the present of
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Speaker 2: the United States and you are posting AI images that
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Speaker 2: supposedly proved a spirity of American arms. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is just sad. This is not only Chaldish, but this
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Speaker 2: is sad. If you have to like post fake AI
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Speaker 2: slops to both, I mean, what does that say?
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they were even they were even, as we
1:07:26
Speaker 1: covered in our last show, posting AI slop to say
1:07:30
Speaker 1: that they were feeding their service members properly. With the
1:07:33
Speaker 1: one guy tasting the stainless steel wall or whatever it was. Yeah, ah, yeah,
1:07:42
Speaker 1: what do we have here. I'm not sure if this
1:07:44
Speaker 1: is when you shared or I shared the Texas going
1:07:46
Speaker 1: to be a bit small when the fake news said
1:07:48
Speaker 1: that the Iranian enemy is doing well militarily against us,
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Speaker 1: it's virtual trees treason in such a false and even
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Speaker 1: a preposterous statement. I'll let you go through the rest
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Speaker 1: of it or whatever you want to cover the I
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Speaker 1: think you shared this one with me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like whatever that when the Trumps the true
1:08:05
Speaker 2: social post gets longer and longer, you know, this guy
1:08:09
Speaker 2: is flipping out, you know, like like this guy is
1:08:12
Speaker 2: crashing out because nobody, nobody wants to read all this
1:08:15
Speaker 2: like freaking things. Just him, Randy. This is just just
1:08:20
Speaker 2: saying again is it's got to be pretty bad if
1:08:24
Speaker 2: he's complaining that people are saying, uh, you know, you
1:08:29
Speaker 2: Run is doing better than the United States in the
1:08:32
Speaker 2: in the war, which is the truth, because you Run
1:08:35
Speaker 2: now controls the straight of hor Moose. We're twenty percent
1:08:38
Speaker 2: of the world's oil and gas transit through and United
1:08:42
Speaker 2: States have no way of reopening that. This is why
1:08:46
Speaker 2: Trump has been you know, threatening and then backing off.
1:08:50
Speaker 2: But if they have the military option to reopen the
1:08:53
Speaker 2: Street of hor moves. They would have done it already,
1:08:56
Speaker 2: but but they can't. And that's that's right.
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Speaker 1: We are Yeah, we have one final one. This is
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Speaker 1: also one that you shared with me. Breaking. US forces
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Speaker 1: on Monday launched what a US Central Command described as
1:09:12
Speaker 1: self defense strikes in southern Iran self defense quote unquote.
1:09:18
Speaker 1: How far they are? Yeah, I mean your reaction, well,
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 2: We just live in nineteen eighty four. Now, the war
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Speaker 2: is peace, you know, war is self defense. But like
1:09:31
Speaker 2: they are, they're totally they don't even try to disguise
1:09:34
Speaker 2: it now. It's just just so blatant.
1:09:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I have nothing else. Is there anything
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Speaker 1: else you want to wrap up with? Or is that
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Speaker 1: a rap?
1:09:43
Speaker 2: No, we're good. We're good. That's another week of us
1:09:46
Speaker 2: just laughing at the headlines and.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. We will try to come back to
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Speaker 1: you next week. I'll be traveling a little bit. I'm
1:09:56
Speaker 1: going to Shenjen. I got invited to ten Cents Penguin
1:10:00
Speaker 1: Island opening. It's a little island off of Changhai area
1:10:05
Speaker 1: where there's no cars allowed on it, and it's this
1:10:07
Speaker 1: whole area for basically ten cent headquarters. It should be
1:10:11
Speaker 1: pretty cool, but I should be I should be back
1:10:14
Speaker 1: in time, but if not, we're gonna try to do
1:10:16
Speaker 1: this at least every two weeks. I will be traveling
1:10:19
Speaker 1: through Shinjang for two months in my RV with the family,
1:10:22
Speaker 1: so during that time, I'm not sure if we can
1:10:24
Speaker 1: do this on the road or not. But I love
1:10:26
Speaker 1: doing these, so we'll see what We'll see what we
1:10:27
Speaker 1: can do. Worst case scenario, after the summer holiday will resume,
1:10:32
Speaker 1: but we will have a couple episodes in before that anyway,
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Speaker 1: So thank you everyone for joining, Thank you Carl once again,
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Speaker 1: and we'll see you all next time.