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Episode 291: Search and Rescue (SG-A 5.01) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and ninety one, the
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  Speaker 1: Nervous nineties. We're talking Stargate Atlantis. We're talking about season five,
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, episode one of the final season of Stargate Atlantis.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch Maddy here, what up? What up? What up? Far
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  Speaker 1: rut Man, Like there was I think sitting down to
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  Speaker 1: I mean before we really tear into I was sitting
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  Speaker 1: there and watching this and just seeing Ronan and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it was, it just it just it
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  Speaker 1: made me think about the fact that he hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: here the whole time. That he came in to what
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  Speaker 1: episode three or four of season.
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  Speaker 2: Two, making episode two.
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  Speaker 1: And that felt like in a way that I know,
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  Speaker 1: for a good chunk of his time on this show
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  Speaker 1: that we've been talking about on the podcast. It was
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  Speaker 1: one and one with SG one, Like we've only had
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  Speaker 1: a consecutive Atlantis run for seasons, like for one season now,
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  Speaker 1: like barely any time. But it still feels like to me,
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  Speaker 1: Ronan coming on board just happened, and we're already into
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  Speaker 1: the final season of the show, like just it's ah
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  Speaker 1: Man wild now, will you tell me? I'm sure? Like again,
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  Speaker 1: we're about to tear into the episode. But considering we
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  Speaker 1: are starting a season off, you will at some point
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  Speaker 1: tell me with the behind the scenes knowledge of when
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  Speaker 1: they were told they were not coming back, Like they
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  Speaker 1: don't know that yet, right, Like.
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  Speaker 2: That's a very good question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I google it. Okay, that's right now, I could google.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it might be something that you know,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, come like episode eight, you'll be able
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  Speaker 1: to tell me, Hey, by the way, this is when
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  Speaker 1: they found out or something, because I've enjoyed that over
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  Speaker 1: the years, Like yeah, with SG one going to hey,
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  Speaker 1: they thought this is going to be the final one.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they started planning this art.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as I've said many times, like four and five
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  Speaker 2: is my blind spot. Yes, let us four and five
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  Speaker 2: is my blind spot. So I do believe at some
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  Speaker 2: point in this season you will notice the the Roman wig.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I do believe it was between season four
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  Speaker 2: and five or when he shaved his head.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even think to look for it. I forgot
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  Speaker 1: all about him.
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  Speaker 2: And then they made a wig out of his his
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  Speaker 2: actual dreads. They just went, well, you you shave him off,
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  Speaker 2: we'll keep them. And then because there is a there
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  Speaker 2: is a famous picture that I'll have to find for
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  Speaker 2: you of Richard Woolsey wearing the mamoa wig.
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  Speaker 1: Oh shit, is that like once you see you can't
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  Speaker 1: unsee it, because that's what it seems like it is
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  Speaker 1: in my head. Yeah, I still want to see it though.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, m it's like a baby predator.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Season five, Episode one synopsis, Search and Rescue
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  Speaker 1: Atlantis races against Atlantis A. Sorry, are we are we
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  Speaker 1: personifying the city lately? It's not Team Atlantis.
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  Speaker 2: Or No Atlantis. It's a ship so it can race.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Atlanti's races against time to save team members trapped
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  Speaker 1: in a collapsed compound and rescue a pregnant tailor from
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  Speaker 1: Michael's clutchers.
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  Speaker 2: So essentially what happened last episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny that, like it's obviously only you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's been no time at all really since we spoke
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  Speaker 1: about that episode, but you get the previously and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah, that was the cliffhanger. Like we've had
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  Speaker 1: some cliffhangers before, but like, what was it last season?
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  Speaker 1: Whether the ship was shooting off into space where we
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  Speaker 1: had to because of the replicator.
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  Speaker 2: Was Yes, that was the start of last season, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and drift.
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  Speaker 1: At least they're all together, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It was kind of like, oh, where are they going
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  Speaker 1: to end up? Or they're lost in space, but that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of fine, whereas this it's like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: looking like a lot of people just died. It's not
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  Speaker 1: really something that this show does a lot. There's it's
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  Speaker 1: a situation. Does this classify as what do you think? What?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? You know what? You're absolutely right,
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  Speaker 1: it does. It does well. It's almost like it caught
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  Speaker 1: me off guard that oh shit, there, that's that's where
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  Speaker 1: we left it. And then it starts and it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: he's having a dream, so clearly he's alive, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like it's John Sheppard. Of course he's alive. He's not
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  Speaker 1: going to have died. But it's like, oh no, they're
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  Speaker 1: just he's just trapped under a little bit of rubble
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  Speaker 1: like it's fine. Like I don't know, it's that seemed
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  Speaker 1: like such a hey, these guys might be dead. They're
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  Speaker 1: either dead or they're completely fine. It's like this is like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's got a big beam on him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which is gonna, you know, keep a good man down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But how did you feel about Ford's little brief cameo.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, what a weird thing to bring him back for.
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  Speaker 1: Like I thought, okay, we're going to get maybe two
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  Speaker 1: at least maybe three like appearances of a dream sequence.
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  Speaker 1: But that wasn't. That wasn't sampled footage. No, that's Rainbow
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  Speaker 1: coming back. They got him three seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we never see him again.
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  Speaker 1: My god. I mean, that's that's the button on his
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta's career. Is that Jesus? And the weird thing is.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't have any it doesn't have any weight on
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the episode like that, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like they're trying to play it like his guilt
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  Speaker 2: for losing four Yeah, and we still don't really know
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  Speaker 2: whether he's alive or dead. And this gave us nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Well the end, like he you know, he's injured and
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  Speaker 1: he wants to go save Taylor, and it was you know, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not losing another teammate. And I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: from that thing that you had at the start of
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  Speaker 1: the episode, like it wasn't on goal. I even watch
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  Speaker 1: it for the first time, it wasn't something that sat
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  Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, which is really.
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  Speaker 2: Weird if you want to hear something wild, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't believe you've watched this. I think this is probably
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  Speaker 2: more of a Brendan reference. But apparently the dream sequence,
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  Speaker 2: including specifically Taylor drinking the wine, was a According to
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  Speaker 2: the commentary Martin Guiro, that was his what do you
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  Speaker 2: want to call it? His illusion, his little his little
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  Speaker 2: attempt at doing something Sopranos.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, no, I haven't seen something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like that. Apparently that was his way
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  Speaker 2: being just like a little bit, a little bit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: nodded to the Sopranos, and I'm like, really, but again,
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  Speaker 2: I've not seen the Sopranos either, so I don't I
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  Speaker 2: don't get the reference, but I'm like, that seems such
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  Speaker 2: like such a weird thing too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brennan were definitely nicked in speak on that. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a show that I want to I wonder whether
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  Speaker 1: even my wife brought it up a couple of months ago,
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  Speaker 1: like I'd be interested in watching that. I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: Help we've come across her radar. This show is twenty
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  Speaker 1: five over twenty five years old at this point, so anyway, I'll.
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  Speaker 2: Take that given that she's watching Gilmore Goals at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: That would be very strange for her from Gilmore Girls
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  Speaker 2: into sopranos. Well, I feel like the girl that me
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  Speaker 2: I'd be, I'd be Padmeamadala in that public You're going
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  Speaker 2: down a path I can't follow.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think, if anything, she selected Gilmore Girls because
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  Speaker 1: she just needed something light and fluffy. Yes, because everything
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  Speaker 1: we watch is just even though stuff that she's watching
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  Speaker 1: without me just gets a little bit or that or
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  Speaker 1: it's absolute shite. And on the Gilmore thing, what's Luke
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: Scott whatever his name is, Scott Patterson his show that
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: it's gonna show, not Virgin River, it's the other one,
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  Speaker 1: very similar Sullivan's crossing.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what this is. Oh well, the
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  Speaker 2: only work I thought he had besides Goodmore Girls was
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: when he was in those Saw movies Saw Movies for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of fears.
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  Speaker 1: I actually really liked him in the Saw films.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's it's it's just it's a CW.
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  Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't even say it's c W like it's
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  Speaker 1: just like a situation. It's not even like not like
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  Speaker 1: a situation comedy, like a sitcom is it's just what
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: do I say, slice of life? You're literally just peering
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  Speaker 1: into someone's words. There are no peaks, there are no valleys.
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  Speaker 2: And nothing's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing's really happening. Like even Sarah, who watches it because
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  Speaker 1: it's some fluff that she can watch when the kids
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  Speaker 1: are around, and I have to worry about swearing or
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: any particular content or anything any violence, and she'll just
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  Speaker 1: turn it off me where through an episode or you know,
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  Speaker 1: watch three minutes and then not watching it again for
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  Speaker 1: three days and go, yeah, I just don't give a shit.
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  Speaker 1: It's boring, but it's got Chad Michael worry. Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, funnily enough, I went to high school with
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  Speaker 2: the guy and he had a similar take where he said,
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  Speaker 2: it's nothing happens and there's no plot. He said that
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  Speaker 2: about the color purple with Whoopy Goldberg.
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  Speaker 1: Really and that's Spielberg, right, yeah, in Fantas. I love Spielberg.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, arguably my favorite director of all time and
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  Speaker 1: has been for since I was a little kid and
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: became aware of what a director was. Thank you Jurassic Park.
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  Speaker 1: But it's it's one of the many films of it's
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  Speaker 1: still that I have.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've seen that many many times.
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  Speaker 1: It is. It is dark and heavy. They remade it
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  Speaker 1: a couple years ago, didn't they.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think that did.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes they did with.
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  Speaker 2: Little little wicked Alphaba. Oh yeah, pretty sure she was
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  Speaker 2: in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't think of her name either, Celia.
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  Speaker 2: No, well, sorry, Holly whent on googling it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they all said there was a musical as well. I
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  Speaker 2: Thinkhoopa Goldberg produced a musical of the color purple as well. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: it's a good if you want to see uh what
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  Speaker 2: leith a weapon? You know that I'm getting too old
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  Speaker 2: with this shit. Guy from Leather Weapon, Danny Glover, Danny Glove,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to see him abuse a young Whoopie Goldber,
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  Speaker 2: I mean no, but yeah, yeah, okay, it's it's heavy.
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  Speaker 1: So all of that was obviously part of the extended
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  Speaker 1: cut of Shepherd's Dream, all those movie references and TV
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  Speaker 1: shows and stuff, because no doubt he would have been
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: a big Gilmore Girls fan before he made the trip
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  Speaker 1: to the Pegasus Galaxy. Definitely obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Funnily enough, this is just to lighten it up a
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: little bit. Uh, this is the first Atlantis premiere not
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  Speaker 2: directed by one Martin Wood. Oh really, yeah, I remember
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned late last season that was the final episode
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  Speaker 2: of of of his involvement. Yeah, yes, so that's it.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't do any more Atlantis. I don't believe he
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  Speaker 2: does any universe really, but I do think he does.
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  Speaker 2: He's obviously not. We'll get into it now. I guess
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  Speaker 2: we can talk about it in this episode because we'll
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: talk about the whole Carter situation. Carter being written out
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  Speaker 2: at the end of this episode because Amanda Tapping chose
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: to leave the series, I don't go and do Sanctuary. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: when I played that audio commentary a couple of episodes
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  Speaker 2: ago where someone's talking, oh during the break, there was
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  Speaker 2: this big, massive situation that we had to come in
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  Speaker 2: and talk about and all that kind of that was
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  Speaker 2: obviously Mena Tapping saying she wasn't coming back this season.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: It happened between between seasons, right.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to that the other day and you're like, ding,
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: like that's the thing that Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So she went to do Sanctuary. Martin Would went with
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: her as an executive producer on the show and directed
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: a big chunk of the episodes on that, so I
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of I don't know if
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: there was a little bit of sour blood between the two,
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: but I do know that Martin Would did end up
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: going to direct a couple of episodes of Traveler.
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: I mean Martin Would and the Stargate team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, because obviously they never got him back
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: for anything any universe or anything like that. But he
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: did end up doing a couple of episodes of Travelers
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: for Brad Wright, and he also did do a couple
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: of episodes of dark Man for Joe and Paul. That
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: was that they went on and did, So I think there,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it.
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  Speaker 1: Might have been the suits that he had, that they
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  Speaker 1: had a thing with a network, the fellow creative like,
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  Speaker 1: we get.
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  Speaker 2: It, yeah, because obviously they've been friends with him and
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  Speaker 2: worked with him for ten years at this point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, but yeah, they're the only premiere not to
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  Speaker 2: be directed by Martin Wood or then the Atlanta's premiere.
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  Speaker 2: So he directed every single season opener, season one, season two,
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  Speaker 2: season three, season four.
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  Speaker 1: So who did direct it? Because I don't have forgot
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  Speaker 1: the notes in front of me, And Okay, so it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't just like a ringing or anything. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: they're still pulling from the from the director pool. Yeah, yeah,
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: like any Mikita, we're wearing can Garotti, any makeuita? So
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's a funny, like I guess
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  Speaker 1: flow of the episode considering it's it's it's called search
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  Speaker 1: and rescue. I mean, it does cover obviously both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the story, but when it's just focusing on the
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  Speaker 1: guys and the accident and stuff like that, and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like, yeah, they get rescued, and
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Okay, well now we're going
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  Speaker 1: to go and do another rescue in space on a
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  Speaker 1: ship as opposed to like, you know, almost underground under
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  Speaker 1: all this rubble and stuff like that. So I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: that it flowed as well as it did. And like,
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  Speaker 1: NEI this, well, the second one maybe, but I was
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  Speaker 1: going to say, neither story the way that they played
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  Speaker 1: out would have justified an entire forty two minute length.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely didn't think in this oh this could
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: have been two episodes or something. Yeah, no, God, it
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  Speaker 2: was more than enough. The thing that hit me weirdly
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: is is, yeah, when they decided it's like the second
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: rescue to go and rescue Taylor and stuff. Everyone was
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: so gung ho about it, including Carter, Like she even
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: said to what's his name called, well, She's like, I'm
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: not going to take no for an answer. And then
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: she didn't go. She didn't go on the rescue mission.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which is yeah, like to be for her
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  Speaker 2: to be so gung ho and I'm not taking no
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  Speaker 2: for an answer and then she just stayed behind.
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  Speaker 1: So like, okay, well, one that the here, I'm holding
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: the physical media, the booklet. She ain't on there. She
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: not on the DVD case, right, she's not in the
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: opening credits. Like we've spoken about this before. Now it
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: might be unfair, and it might be a money thing.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Like if she's in the opening credits of a show,
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  Speaker 1: maybe she's worth more money, even if she's just there
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  Speaker 1: for one episode, Like they have to pay her an
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: obscene buffer because she's in the opening credits, even if
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  Speaker 1: to preserve the surprise, the anything for the audience. But
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  Speaker 1: when she's not there.
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  Speaker 2: And Piccado is and they've had a dual state to
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  Speaker 2: the open.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: And states there and like, but even if that was
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: the only difference, i'd be like, oh cool, yeah, well
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: she has been a mainstay and old McGillicuddy was there
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: for the first couple of seasons when when he was
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: playing Beckett before his passing, before his return after his passing.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm just like, oh, that's a bit,
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  Speaker 1: that's a bit shit, and again not knowing how everything
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: plays out, but assuming that something like that plays out,
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  Speaker 1: I was a bit taken. When they're back up in
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: this shit, they're getting hammered by the Wraiths. Although I
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  Speaker 1: feel like whenever there's been space battles before and shields
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  Speaker 1: are at eighty and I'm like, well you've got about
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: eighteen seconds to those shields are at zero, Like shit happens. Like, Nah,
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  Speaker 1: shields are fine. Yeah, we're good. And they're all just chatting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having something to eat. Yeah, and you can
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  Speaker 1: just hear the Wraith just trying to shoot the shit
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  Speaker 1: out of them. It's like, Nah, shields are good, Like
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: since when have we upgraded shields to Like it's fine,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Like we can just sit here and absolutely not be worried.
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  Speaker 1: Like their hyper drives out so they're just gonna shoot us,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: but our shields are up and we clearly need to
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: stay here for a reason. So we're just both gonna
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: sit here. They're gonna shoot and we're gonna get shot at. Okay. Fine.
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  Speaker 1: They then go, well, look, we need to take out
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  Speaker 1: their weapons. We need to stage an attack with three
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  Speaker 1: O twos. Their darts are gonna come out. That's gonna
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: be our way in. And Carter's like, yeah, let's go,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: let's send out what twenty three OHO twos? Who knows
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: how many? Yeah, let's even say twenty. Is there a
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: single person, crafted two? Two people? Okay, let's say there's twenty,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: says forty people out there. Ye, forty people potentially dying
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: to save one who is an alien, beloved member of
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: the team. From an audience, we love her, We love Taylor.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: She's very helpful, she's with child. Even as a character,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: it's like, God, damn, you got to save the mother
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: with an unborn show all that sort of stuff. But
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: from a military decision making, even Carter, who is very
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: emotionally driven, but she's also very intelligent to make the
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: right military decision as a colonel leading SG one, let alone,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: leading the goddamn at Landis mission in another freaking galaxy,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and she just without any other thinking, says yeah, three
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: or two shoot him out there, and I'm like, ooh,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: that's rough, And about eight seconds later I'm thinking, ah,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: is that's what? Is that the decision that's going to
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: cost you your post? Ooh, that could have been interesting
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: because that just seemed like that vision was there for
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: a reason, rather than like it's it's a great personal decision,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: like yeah, we want to from it from a not
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: even a narrative from a viewer. It's a great decision. Yet,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: send in the what do you call them in Star Trek,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the red Shirts? Send in the red Shirts, the unnamed.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: We don't even going to see they're going to be
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: CGI three O two's send them in. Which we didn't
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: even hear of any of them getting shot. We didn't
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: see andy of them getting destroyed. We just oh, yeah,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: weapons were shot, got nothing. I'm like, oh, that was easy. Again.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Our shields are holding up and their weapons are destroyed
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: because we need them to. Because it's got nothing to
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: do with anything really that's going on. When we're having
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: a big space battle and the main crew are on
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the main ship and the main bad guys are on
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the main Wraith crew, that shit doesn't happen. It's never
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that easy. But we pushed past that. That's fine, we
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: can accept it. Still, so many human military members were
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: sent out in a hopeless almost mission mission impossible to
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: go on to a Wraith ship and potentially rescue somebody.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: But that's the way that we don't that we don't
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: even know alive. Yeah, but you know, they they would
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: choose to do that because Morocca. But I believe they would.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I just like that, like John would. And John's very
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: emotionally given in this episode, like he lies his way
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: out of at a medical and all that sort of stuff.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: But I just thought, this is what's going to cost Carter,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and I was almost pissed off that they made her
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: make such a dumb decision. And then it wasn't the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: thing that cost her, It was just kind of like
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: an overall thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: That would be cool. Yeah, I would always like her
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: to override Caldwell. You know, they are of equal rank.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I believe they're both full bird colonels at this point.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: But you know, obviously she did have her book, which
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: she is like, I'm not going to take no for
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: an answer, but I would almost like her to just
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: push a little bit harder, But I think I would
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: say that the backlash from the fandom would have been on, now,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you've sullied Carter's character, you know what I mean. The
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: last time we saw Carter get short or angry or
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: not herself with someone was when Jack was missing on
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: that moon with Maybourne. Yeah, yeah, she got She got
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: a bit a bit snippy and snappy with that. So yeah,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: I think if if she'd have done something out of
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: character for her and then been been punished for it
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and the demoted or taken away from the Atlantis expedition,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I think that that's probably something that Joe and Paul
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have felt comfortable enough doing. Yea to sort
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: of put that black mark on on Carter's character, But
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: that would have been cool interesting to see.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Or even if she said no to it and
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: then John goes and does it anyway, he breaks rank,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he breaks the rules, and then Carter still loses her
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: job over it for it, and it's like, ah, and
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it's a man v woman thing, or it's a you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: she takes the or she takes the four Yeah, and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, then then you might start to hate John,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you know, And we can't have that.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So oh wow, that that starts happening for me. Next
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: week we'll get to.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, okay interesting, Well actually two weeks in
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the podcast.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Because yeah, that's right, we've got you to continue it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: We've got to cover what what card is.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Done, right, because there's the line at the end of
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: this where she says, I do like the way they
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: did this at the end here where it was just
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: like it was just no big deal.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, I've just got to go back.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: There's a whole thing, bloody, bloody bar and McKay's like, yo,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: hurry up, okay, you'll be back whatever. Where are you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: going back to Earth? Why they caught the last ball?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Clone Toker are going to extract assumbio.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: They want to ask you one to put in an appearance, okay,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: plus the IOA want.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: To do an exhaustive review of my first year in command.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: So you know that can't be good. You crazy. They
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: probably want to give you a medal. He had a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: great year.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I know my opinion doesn't mean much to those folks,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: but I think he's done an excellent job. I'm glad
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: he took the post.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Thanks Ron. That means a lot.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Tell Shepherd the court martial, I'll.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Have to wait. See you soon. I know, I know
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you can't see it, but that is see you soon.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, what are you talking about?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: He's like, why are we having this meaningful conversation.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Or even just the court marshal thing's I don't know
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Yeah, I've been part of this conversation. Yeah, okay, Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that would have been a fun like watching it live,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I guess. Because so did this come out before the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Like I know we're covering on the podcast chronologically.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But I would I would say so that this came
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: out before Continuum.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it wouldn't have obviously been the next week,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: like it could have been six weeks, no, eight weeks.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was. Maybe this did come out after Continuum,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: because obviously we knew at the end of last season
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: was when they were filming Continuum, and that's why Carter
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: wasn't in you know, the Kindred Part two or whatever
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: it was, wasn't really in it much. So yeah, maybe
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the post production on Continuum wasn't wasn't overly big. Let
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: me just check my notes for continuing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just googling some release dates.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I've got Continuum as the twenty ninth of July two
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: thousand and eight. Oh no, and I got Search and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Rescue as the eleventh of July two thousand and eight.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So hang on twenty ninth of July for Continuum was there?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It was the Region one DV release that was the
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: earliest release you.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Got of and this one was eleventh of July, So
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that was okay, So that's cool. So if you if
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you are a if you are a Stargate avid watcher,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you're watching the episodes as they're going to air, and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you're buying the DVD, you would have been fine.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So technically, according to the dates I have, Continue would
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: have released on DVD between episodes three and four of
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: this season airing.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the earliest point. And I don't know because
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched Continuum in.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched it since like before we started this podcast.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Oh well, and truly like twice as long. Almost it
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: would almost be she it would be fifteen years since
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I would have watched Continue. At least it was still
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it was still fresh when I would have seen it last.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: But I was going to say, oh, but they don't
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: make any reference to what happened at the end of
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: this episode. I wouldn't know I would have. If they
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: would have, it would have just it would be mumbo
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: jumbo to me because I wasn't watching Atlantis back then.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as I can remember, I don't. Yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a single mention of Atlantis or
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: her losing her command or anything like that in the which,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: to be fair, would make sense because they would have
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: filmed Continuum while Carter was still a regular member during
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: last season, and then it was during the break while
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: everything would have been in post production that Amanda chose
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to leave, So while they were filming Continuum, I don't
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: think they would have. They wouldn't have had the information
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: that Carter wasn't coming back for next season anyway.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah, she.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: But there was no mention of her even being in command. Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of it exactly Continuum.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Even in this line, like we get what she means,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: but in her saying, oh they wont SG one, I'm like,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we're not part of SG one anymore, Dull, Like you're not.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: You're commanding Stargate Atlantis, Like that's just what you do.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna go Oh and the Tokra won the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: original SG one who dealt with.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yes boiler alert for next week, all of SG one
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: except Jonas. So it's like, you know, they don't get
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: all of SG one back together.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Okay, So I was gonna move on and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: say something else, but quickly we see her obviously leaving.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: She's got her bags packed because she doesn't know how
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: long she's going to be there with you know, getting
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: her her extensive review. Yeah, she obviously travels through the gate. Yeah,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: so Midway back up and running like what are we
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: talking here? Is it just like straight up? Oh?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe they just use the ZZPM and just like, hey,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you know what went straight there?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Unplug it from there and plug it in over here.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, Midway's gone. Yeah, Midway had the twenty
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: four hour quarantine and stuff like that, so there was
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: none of that. So yeah, I would say they yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: because that power.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Because we like, she leaves Atlantis and has that awkward
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: conversation with Ronnie and then we see her arriving. I'm like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: they could have been twenty four hours, but between we
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: As far as I'm aware, Midway never gets rebuilt.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: We are right, ad damn.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they must have just yeah plugged in and
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: then you have to spoiler alert for in a couple
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: of weeks time when we do seed, Woolsey does make
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the trip on the Dadalusts. So it takes him three
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: weeks to get there on the Daedalus.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, so's it was worth sending Carter back
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to get fired quick.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, I guess she's got the ZZEDPM in Atlanta, so
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: she can. They can make the call from that way,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: make the call the other way unless the SGC has
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: a ZZPM.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: God if only like O'Neil had nothing better to do
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: than just sit on the dead list for three weeks
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and just make Woolsey's life. Hell, oh that'd be great. Obviously,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he's rank at the moment where he's working. He probably
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: can't get away with shit like that. But I feel
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like he would have.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I feel like he'd take leave. He like, I'm gonna
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: take six weeks leave.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: They're more like gate lanes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Now there was a blink and you'll miss it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: You may have noticed a new character introduced in this episode.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Her name is Lieutenant Vega.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I believe her name is Ellen Ripley. I'll see the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: chick that was firing the guns. The holy fuck man. Like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: they get down to rescue and all of a sudden,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: some chick I've never seen before just comes out with
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: this like tilk sized cannon and just like, oh, there's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: a flying ship.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Down.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: They're like, good shooting. She's like, oh really, like did
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: not wouldn't have blown out a candle? Yeah, Yeah, she's great. Love.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: She's a new recurring character that they were introducing. She
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: did have They did have a lot more to do.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: She actually played a doctor like that actress played a
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: doctor back in the Tower of Rodney when the one
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: where he was trying to ascend because he'd been She
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: was a background doctor in that. But yeah, she's she's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: a new character in this Lieutenant Vega. She does there's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: an episode this season where she I think gets like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: her own team or something like that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Well, they all go out.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: But interestingly that a lot of the Vegas stuff that
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Martin Gere introduced did and upon the cutting room floor
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: they ran out of it. One particular scene is which
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I think would tickle your your your pickiness stop it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: At a certain point in one of the deleted scenes,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Vega asks Keller out for a drink. Oh interesting, Yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: so maybe Keller finally gets that beer that she asked
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Rodney about. So yeah, but they ended up on the
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: cutting room floor.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Oh what a shame. I like the idea that, Okay,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: just obviously recurring actor, but I like, you know, maybe
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: some unofficial canon that that doctor just was out the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: shooting range.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: On the They're like, oh, that could be fine.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Like, obviously you've got to be qualified with all this stuff,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: but you're actually a lot better than what we've thought.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: What else can you do? Goes in there, does some
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: sparring with an unpregnant tailor and and and Rona. It's like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: holy shit, you can really like that again because he's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: got that, but you could really hold your own.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Uh Janet Fraser, she was a doctor, but she's a
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: military doctor. She held a rank. We never never find
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: out what it was. So yeah, potentially that doctor in
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Tower Rodney could have been Lieutenant Vega, doctor Lieutenant Vega.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing, Captain doctor Carter. That's that's my
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: head canon. That's I love it.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I'm done, change of proof love that. The other thing
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I loved was, uh, when we're having the space fight
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: with Michael and just as his cruise is about to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: jump to hyperspace and we blast it and then it
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: fails the space.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That looked so good because you're like, it's it's the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: same they've done a hundred times before. A gould ship,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a replicator ship, a Bloody Arie ship, anything's going off
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: into into hyper Oh we just missed it. Yeah if
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you didn't this time, man.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And like it's just like webhole just like of like
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: particles and stuff like that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was so good.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And then unfortunately I think that was better than the
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: big set piece they had of of CGI, which is
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: that big weird pull away from I think it was
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Rodney when it was crazy were we just like pulled out,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: then went to hyperspace, pulled out. There's one around found.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Essentially like I know, a galaxy is massive, but like
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: they went from like, oh, here's this planet and it's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: moon and another planet another moon, and well there's that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: solar system and oh here's it sort of cluster, and
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: then we just got into like this the cloud, the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: star cloud. Oh this, we're so far out. We're actually
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: outside of the galaxy right now. And then it just
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: kept going in the galaxy almost disappeared. And then we
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: turn around and we still shoot forward in the direction
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: we had been heading backwards in and then we get
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: to another planet and then we just slowed dow and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: there's his ship. And I'm like, okay, so Michael's like
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: hanging outside of the pegasutka or is it like it's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: in the Outer Rim. It's the it's the real Outer
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Rim galaxy. But I thought, what was weird? It was
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: very different. I liked it. That's why I wanted to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: know who directed it, because like that, that's different.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: It was interesting. But I just think it failed in
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: like at least with like the end of season three
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: with First Strike, when we when we had that really
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: long CGI shot where we followed the missile. Oh there
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: was motivation for that we were following that. There wasn't
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: really any motivation. I think from memory it was we
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: were on like Rodney's face because he said something about
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: no bad guys or well before we finally have no
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: bad guys or something like that, and it pulls out,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: but then we sort of we do we do that
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: big woosh, but then it pulls in and then we
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: just stop at the cruiser, and I think what they
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: should have done is like pushed into the cruiser and
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: then maybe gone into and faded into Michael's face or
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Taylor's face. It was something because I just feel like
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: there was this weird disconnection. But like the motivation the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: shot itself was cool, but I mean I didn't like
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: when we kind of seemed to go to hyperspace in
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the middle of it. It's just yeah, just there wasn't
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't quite understand the motivation behind it all that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, Taylor would have been good because it would
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: have been like, hey, here are the people who came
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to rescue ere. Yeah, and this is how far away
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: they actually are from the person that we were trying
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to rescue. Yeah. Right.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Actually, I think even the setup line being we finally
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: got no bad guys now we just have to find
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Taylor and it's like and then we pull out and
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: we find Taylor. You know that some kind of you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: storyline connectivity to that I think would have been really
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: really nice. But yeah, it just felt like, Oh, we're
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: being showy because we can. And I was just like,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I like I said, the Wraith crew is being shot
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: out of hyperspace. I think it was way better, Yes,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: way more impactful for me.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And so funny we had last season in uh was
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a Quarantine and John had that line with Taylor going,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this is in a TV show, this is where the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: pregnant woman has the baby. And then in this episode,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the pregnant woman had the baby in a moment of distress.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And of all people to like, I loved how when
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: they found her, like Roan and how caring him. He's like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be right back and we're going to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: come back and help you. Like it was like, hey,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: don't You're going to be fine and we're going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: be back. And rather than just sort of like grunting
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and sort of like don't worry, you know, you'll be fine,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it was I felt it from him. And then for
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: all people to be stuck with a pregnant woman and hey, look,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know in the end, like and I dare say,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: you haven't witnessed it, because I don't think you've said
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it to me if you have, But having witnessed it
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: five four times with my wife Sarah giving birth, is
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that you know a woman ninety nine point nine nine
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: nine percent of the rest of their life might be
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit more modest maybe, right in a situation
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you having a baby, like obviously there are priorities, and
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: you will sit there on your back with your hospital
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: gown hocked up, sitting above your stomach and spread your
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: legs because you're having a baby, right if you're having
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it that way, and it doesn't matter who, Like, you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we're sitting there delivery room and anyone who's gone through it,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about those that haven't though for me
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it's only my sisters and my niece, right, so you're
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: not definitely not watching your sister do yeah. No, and
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be going it's crowning like that, you know, Yeah, exactly,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that's not yah. And you know that kind of got
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: like one maybe two midwives and then other people just
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: rant that much shift swap someone to walk in and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: check something out. You're sitting there and you're most arguably
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: most exposed vulnerable day right, yeah, and iolating. Yeah, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: appreciate all that because I've seen my wife do it
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and even me like sitting there not going through it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just worried about her. I'm not there going oh
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: hang on, no, don't look or anything because it's like, no,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that's the least important thing that's going on right now.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the way. It's not a sexual organ
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: or anything. God, it's just it's a child. It's a
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it's a what do they call it. I don't want
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to say cavity.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: That's horrible. It's what you shouldn't doty.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a channel for the child to be born
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: at that point. Yeah, nothing sexual about it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in the disembarkation room and don't say shaft
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: into a tunnel. But still I think because it was
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: like she's she's like, she's going to have this baby.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Cut to what John and Ronan walking around, Cut to
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Michael who knows. Then we come back Taylor sitting back,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: leaning on her hands with her legs spread and front
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: of Rodney going yeah, I think it's definitely happened. I'm like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: oh shit, Like he's that's that's like a friend, like
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a workmate of his, and he's just fully staring at
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: her naked down bloke with her legs spread like it
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: just it just struck me, like again, there's a there's
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a friend of mine that works with me here and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: she was pregnant. We sat in the same room, like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: okay for like ten years, but through her entire pregnancy,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I shared a room with her for four hours a
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: day and she worked pretty close up to the point
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: where she was going to have the baby. And she was, oh, hope,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have it at work, And I said, and
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and at that stage, I had three kids. I've seen this, honestly, mate,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: just sub me in case and honestly, if you were
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I got the bottle of purel. Just wa look, my
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: hands are clean. I'm fine, said if it happened, if
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: your water broke right now, when it started happening very quickly,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I said, I could help you out, and honestly, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm like, i'd probably back myself.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: In yeah, yeah, one child. You'd be like, oh yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you just yeah, you just try to but yeah, that
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: put you've been through three.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: When I went through the fourth, though, like I got
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: really hands on, there was a lot more involved, even
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: though I got really I get hands on with the second,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit less with the third because Sarah got involved.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: She wanted to do a lot more. And then with
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the fourth, it was like the doctor sat there, he's
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: like do this, do that, Like I basically she was
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the only hands.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: At the end or what.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: No, but he's worth every percent because he's so handsome
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: as well. Did the picture?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, I was walking here on the
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: way to the studio.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Haven't you have a look? What have you got?
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So there was a there was a sign at the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: front for doctor Mitch. Oh, and it was just it
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: was just a guy. And then just several she.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Doesn't look lovely beautiful women, doctor Mitch esthetics. Oh is
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that what it was?
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Doctor?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Look, I'll give him a plug, Dr Mitch. So the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: full word doctor doctor Mitch dot com dot au. And yeah,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: just him sitting there, good looking bloke and then a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: picture of six beautiful women. Actually there's there's yep.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I guess now beautiful. I guess previously weren't beautiful based
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: on whatever he was doing to him.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I think I think all women
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: are all beautiful at all times, especially during birth. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: want it, Okay, I'll be cautious to say that I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: think one of the people in that photo is a guy,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to show that it's not just for women, but also
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to assume that's it just based in the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: fact they have a short haircut and maybe have a
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: little bit of stubble, but I don't.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Might not be passing, mate, you might be a good transition.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: We're talking the.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Left or the right. Come on, mate, gun to your head?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Is that a bloke.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: That's a bloke.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: That's very brave you to say that. I asked the question.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: You said, I have a Dr Mitch. Thank you, Doctor Mitch.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: There's wonderful things so I hear in our local area. Yeah, yeah, good,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: good times.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: So well, I was what I was impressed about. I
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: think this was some really a riding in terms of
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: giving Taylor a little bit of agency, knowing that she's
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: never been and never will be, a damsel in distress.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I liked the idea that, and I like the.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Idea that Rachel Letri has actually had her own child
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: by this point, yes, so very recently. So you can
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: like bring a lot of life experience to it and
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: show how strong women are in that moment. And it's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: not just a cliche that a lot of TV or
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: movies will show. It's like, oh, I'm in laid my
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: water broke. I am now at the mercy of everyone
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: else who can help me.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: So I love the fact that she refused to be carried, Yes,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: up until the baby was born, at which point she
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: would have been exhausted.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I thought.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So you could tell she was looking at the baby
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: and that baby was her entire world and was all
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: about protecting that baby. So she's like, you can carry
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: me now, because she would have just been exhausted. I
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: thought that was a very rung.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Was carrying her right well. They offered earlier on while
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: she was still pregnant, within seven contral once the baby
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: was born. Once the baby was born, Ron's carrying her,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: she's holding the baby. I'm like, baby's quite I forget,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like how quickly they just I'll find it and that'll
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that'll shut them up. Mate, Yeah, they'll go to sleep.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I fully brought into that, but my thought
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: too again just like bringing my own, well real world experience.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like like, I sit there. I will even go
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: as far as to say, and I say this to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Sarah to him, I almost judge every other story I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: hear about any other woman's pregnancy to Sarah and I'm like, yeah,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: but like I couldn't do this and this didn't happen
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: or I had to do it, and like Sarah did
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it better than that she kicked us. She was stronger
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: than that she did. Really, you did it that way
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: or Sarah did it this again, there's no right or
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: wrong way to do it.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she did with four kids who have your genetics,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: so your forehead, my massive.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Head made So yeah, there is like that. But even
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: saying that, I'm like, I don't know that if there
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: was like a zombie apocalypse in the hospital all of
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a sudden, that like Sarah would have had one of
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: our babies that it's like, Okay, we're gonna need you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: to run now, Yeah, she would have been like, yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I can do that, because again, you've just been through
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a goddamn marathon. So yeah, letter Jason memo will pick
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you up.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And I love that.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I love that there is just and and the fact
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: that it was Taylor's She's like, you can carry me now,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You know. I was about to say, is that there's
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: as a member of our team that has been carried
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: by Jason moa, But that's incorrect. One of our team
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: members has carried that's right, that's right.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Was that jumped on Lincoln?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Lincoln gave Jason a piggyback. That's right, Yeah, that's a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: real thing that I'm just thinking about that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I posted that on our patreons ago.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did not look like that. He wasn't
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: enjoying that, Jason. That looked like a lot of fun
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for him.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: No, that was that was the mutual benefit there. They
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: were both enjoying it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Does Lincoln absolutely could feel his pulse?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he's whatever it's called commando, if.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: You were one of those nappies, one of those loin cloths,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, so does that cameus commander?
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: If there's a I think if I think there's less restriction, yeah,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: any less restriction than box of braces, I think you.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I think you could probably say you go and commando
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: moa cock chats on this week's Get into Gates. I
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: love that, like Michael, that they actually did get one
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: up on him, Like they go and they blow up
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the hyperdrive and he's like that's impossible, and they're like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: well it happened, bro, don't have to tell you. They're
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: on board, And I'm like, yeah, they are, and they've
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: already killed like eighteen of your men, mate, and and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: then he's like, we need to find them. We don't
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: see him again, and he's already taken the ship.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't find they can't find the four humans
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: blasting away out of place and the crying, but he
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: can find an invisible ship. I just love it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, we parked it here, and I'm like, well,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: obviously parked it is the only place you could probably
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: park it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Park it on that giant cravass like over there, just
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: hitting their light. Apparently, they said in the order commentary,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: apparently they wanted to have a little sound effect like that,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: but someone with some part of people was like, well, no,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: we've already established the sound that thing, mate, so you
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: can't cerddenly.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Have a probably would have it, it's too human. But
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, pay attention to Ken and me. Are those
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: things able to like, have they got any type of autopilot?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Like it? Wouldn't it be much better if they cloak
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: it and just have it hover, like, you know, ten
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: feet above the air, so Michael could come in and
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: sort of like as if he's blindfolded, just be reaching
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: out because it.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Has been established. When it's cloak, you can't hear the
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: engines or feel.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: The yeah, the breeze from have it hover in there,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: they come out with their key take off the cloak
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: hit the auto sort of thing. So it just brings
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: it down because.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: What would happened if if a dart tried to land
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: exactly where that was, it would landed on top of it,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: like like I Mobius when the sand came over the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: cloak jumper.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, SG one, Yeah, that was a great show. Yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: well even the end where they go we got to
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: take a dart and then Shepherd and like Coldwell was
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: right to go. Where's your code? He's like it, yes, alright, colonel.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: There was still a bit of hesitance in this voice.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, absolutely there yeah, And then he's like, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: well we're coming in here and I've got a dart
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and we didn't have our regular And I'm like, why
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: you sounding like you're suspicious? You know who you are.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: We as an audience know that you're the right one.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Stop dragging this out that he should be doubting you.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: But they're obviously doing that in a way so that
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: then they could eventually in the In the next shot
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that he was in pan around to go, he's like
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a baby in the little hard drive. He's like no, no, no,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I'm carrying the baby, and I'm like, oh, yeah, how
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: weird would that be? Like even just the idea of like, hey,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: we all need to jump in there. We can't fit Ronan.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I know I mentioned that for Ronan. He hates the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Wraith so much, the idea of like even to get
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: out of here, we're gonna need to suck you up
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: into the old Wrath hard drive. And he's like, yeah, okay,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that sounds like something we should be doing. You know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: let's not do the baby. They'll take my own dott exactly.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I'll just hang on.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: We know how to fly a dart by now, like
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: he was a runner for seven years.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have flown it and let John get
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: into the hard drive.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: By would have been I think John never does that though,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: And this is the problem I have. And we'll talk
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: about it during the Seed in a couple of weeks.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: And I'm sick of John always having to be the guy, the.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Hero, like the yeah, okay, the hero. Well, I guess
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: even at the end, right and she he's like, oh,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: what are you going to name it? And She's like, oh, yeah,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: I was gonna name it, uh Turan Twan or something
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: after her dad, Yeah, and Tara and John and he's like,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: oh oh wow. And then was it was it Keller
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: that goes Rodny's gonna be so pitched, like yeah, kinder,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: like even though I probably warn more to John than
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I do to Rodney because he can be such you
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: know what. Actually even that there was a scene where
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: they're in a jumper, I think actually when they went
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: out and they were basically sitting outside of Michael ship, oh,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: waiting for the diversion, yes, or even before the Deadlas
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: showed up. They was just like, let's say closed, let's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: just keep an eye on things. And Kell's asking questions.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: She doesn't go on missions to like infiltrate Wraith ships,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and she's asking questions and Rodney is like, well, clearly
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's not like that, you're an idiot, And I'm like, dude,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: she wanted to root you a couple of weeks ago.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Like maybe she's into that. Maybe she likes a little
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: bit of she has.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: We said that right, like she like one on an
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: aesthetic thing. Generally you would assume maybe that Jason Momoa
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: might be more than I'll say rodin backay because David Hill,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Yeah, but then Rodney backay, but clearly she
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: had a thing for him. And then we as an
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: audience have seen that in the kind of alternate future
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, guess I guess it is that's where they
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: found Taylor in the other past. Yeah, and then they
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: messed that up. That kind of like weirded me out,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the idea of like we've already changed the future, even
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: ever so slightly, they've changed the future, which is weird
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: because this is where we found her. And then he okay, well,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the only reason he went back to that planet in
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: the first place was because he got told. But by
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: being told, he went back and went back too early
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: like that just you know it just it seems like
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: it should be one of those weird paradoxes where well,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the only reason they went there is because they found out,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: So of course they go back there at the right time,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because if they they wouldn't have ever went there if
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: they didn't get told, And so the idea of going
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: there at the wrong time shouldn't. Yeah, I'm I'm trying
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to work it out myself. I should just not even sure.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not even sure, Butcher's paper is going to make
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: sense of anything. But we do have a whiteboard over
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: this and maybe we should maybe we should do that.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we said that, you know. She she showed
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of interest in Rodney a couple of weeks ago,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: which didn't make sense. And I think we even joked, well,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: she might like the idea that he's a bit of
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: a dick and she's going to have to because he
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to work away from that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: I think from the from the way she said something
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: in one of the scenes that she seems to like
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the idea that Rodney's emotions are all out there, whereas
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: with Ronan she's always guessing, well not always, but it's
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: like in the they've had white and she can't tell
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: what Ronan's thinking and doesn't know, whereas with McKay, you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: there's no subtext with McKay. It's you know, if you
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: want to know what murckay's thinking, you know what McKay's thinking.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, situation, Yeah, fair enough. I just thought, do you
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: have why are you talking all like that? Like, even
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: just as a viewer, what.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: They say, every every every pot has a lid.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she doesn't have to go on that pot.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say she was the lid. But that's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: calling woman a pot. I mean that's that's I mean,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: she's she doesn't have to go on that pot. Oh okay,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: got and I don't mean get on it like a
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: sexual nature. I don't know why if anyone was thinking that,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: but if they were, they were wrong.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And you about Keller.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Never no, but tell me more about this deleted scene
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: obviously don't. Yeah, I'm joking.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll wait, wait till after continue when we talk
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: about Keller special episode called the Seed. Oh that's the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: next one, right, yeah, after continuum.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've heard you talking that one up right.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good my throat. If you're telling me
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: it's harmony level, absolutely get you can't do that because
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: we're not doing it for two weeks.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: I can plain. Damn I did have I mentioned it before.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I did have a little bit of a present for you.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Feel free if you like, you can add this maybe
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: to the rotation. This is from the audio commentary.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: About Mitch. Well, what more can be said about that guy?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: We talk about him too much?
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: You're right, Andy, Yeah, it's.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Good to have around just for the entertainment value for
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the crew. You know, he has a lot of fun.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: He's a lot of fun, man. I mean you say
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that we should have that on rotation. I'm the one
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: clicking the buttons, like what kind of self indulgent piece
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of ship. All of a sudden, I'm like, Wow, what
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: can we say about Mitch?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I should supercut that with the thing of
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Walter saying he's the glue.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Oh that reminds me of Oh yeah, that reminds me
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of something.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: It might be a special presentation next week.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that will wait till next week because we're
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: doing Continuum happen. I've been looking forward to this guy.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I've got such great memories that can continue of Continuum
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: because even though I haven't watched it in like fifteen
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: years or something, whatever it might be, I've just got
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: a great memory. And also because I had good memories
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: maybe not as good about Continuum for Arc of Truth,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and then when we did that however long ago that was,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I liked that a lot more than what I remember.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: So if I did that with Continuum as well, I'm
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: in for a bloddy treat podcast. So that's what we're doing.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: We'll duck back out of Atlantis for I guess the
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: final time and yeah, we're following Carter. Basically, we're following Carter,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: and so we should. Yeah, what a great leader. Well
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: for now on something to do with that I nearly
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: forgot And I feel like this is something that you're
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: not gonna like. And I feel like after I just
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: gave you a gift, Yeah, this is not a gift
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: for you at all. If anything, this is a gift
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: for Brendan. I feel like it would be what he
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: would have brought as a piece of audio. Okay, this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: is not something that I've made. This is from the show.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And what a surprise that either it fell on deaf
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: is to you or that you heard it and chose
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: not to bring it in. This is John talking to Carter. Colonel.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: They have more respect for you than any commanding officer
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I've ever had. But I'm getting on it. Okay, I
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: know she's I know she's there is quite a big qualifier. Sure,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying she might not be a commanding officer,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and I speak of Elizabeth Weir. Is that where he's
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: got to have with the technicality that Carter is the
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: commanding officer, but.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Elizabeth, because she's not part of the US military. Sure,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: she was she was the base commander. Well, was not
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a commanding officer.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Look about twenty minutes later in this episode, maybe less
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: than that, Carter said, And as I've already mentioned in
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: this episode, Carter said, the Tokra want to see SG one.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: She's not part of SG one, So that doesn't mean
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: her if she should have been more technical, she should
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: have been more literal in what she said. But we
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: just bundled it together and went, wow, we know what
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: she means. I think that's the rule that I'm looking
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: at here is that he goes, Yeah, you're the other
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: best leader I ever had. I've never had, You've had
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I've never had, I've never had more respect for a
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: leader before commanding officer. I mean, I feel like I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: feel like he would have given we the respect of
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: like kind of god, you're basically a commanding officer though, Like.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I just what No, I see what that does is
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: because technically wouldn't when he flew Jack to Atlanta to
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Antarctica and the helicopter, wouldn't Jack have been his commanding
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: officer at that point. So he's saying he respects her
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: more than he respects Jack.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm fine with that because I love Jack, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's got enough love from the show that
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: he doesn't need it. But I'm just again, I'm just
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: trying to be Brendan here for a second ad.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if we, if we, if we, if we
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: bring up this much we hate, we might end up
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: summoning Brendan and he's just he'll just appear like like
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: like saying Candyman three times, trying to.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Bring it up because he'll feel like, Hey, there hasn't
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: been enough, you know what I mean, It's enough, there's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: been enough. Get into Gate, Get into the gate Stargate podcast,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Get into it now before it's too late.