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Jaguars Reporters: October 15 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into another Jaguars Reporters podcast. J P. Shadrick Ashland
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  Speaker 1: Sullivan with us two weeks in a row. Yeah, welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton's here. You've heard of him. We're hoping that
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  Speaker 1: record doesn't stand. We hope that you make it three
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  Speaker 1: weeks and four. Fine, we'll see. I'm a very busy gap. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we can tell John Osher with us today's BLUs just
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  Speaker 1: with his presence, what a week this is. It's um
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  Speaker 1: a two and full record. It's an six record in
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati with the defense that has not played well. They
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  Speaker 1: haven't stopped the run. They've got some injuries on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive line, in the in the backfield and defensive backfield. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hey, this is a game. If there's a
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  Speaker 1: bounce back game for an offense, this would be the
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  Speaker 1: week to happen to be the one to say it. Look,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't get the w here, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: just shut her up for the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are beaten up. Both their starting
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  Speaker 1: corners are down. They're down to starting offensive lineman, starting
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  Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I get it, desperation, blah blah blah. But
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  Speaker 1: when you look at this team and compare it to
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  Speaker 1: that team. One team is superior to the other, it
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  Speaker 1: just is. And they're in a better situation than the Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars should get to three and four this week.
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  Speaker 1: They have to get to three and four. If not,
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  Speaker 1: then you know, second of the season is about different
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  Speaker 1: things than playoffs and all that stuff. I think they're
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  Speaker 1: okay as long as they win these next two games.
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  Speaker 1: To Jaguars, they have lost to four good teams, beaten
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  Speaker 1: to beat able teams. That right where they ought to be.
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  Speaker 1: We said when Foals got hurt, if men, you can
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  Speaker 1: just get them to five and four. Well, when you
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  Speaker 1: looked at the schedule, these the four losses sort of
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  Speaker 1: made sense. They've already happened. But you had to beat
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals, you had to beat the Jets, and then
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  Speaker 1: you go to London with a chance playing at home,
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  Speaker 1: which we are supposed to be a home game. Do
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  Speaker 1: you have to five and four? If they win those three,
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  Speaker 1: everything's fine. If they lose one up in there in
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  Speaker 1: trouble games too, and obviously the next two weeks in
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  Speaker 1: the division game, and look opening day, if we would
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  Speaker 1: have said, hey, Nick Foles is done, you could be
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  Speaker 1: five and four at the bye. Yeah, I'll take that
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  Speaker 1: all day long. Sign me up. You wouldn't have got
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  Speaker 1: ingredients said I I gotta be six and three. No, no no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I want to be seven and two. You would have
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  Speaker 1: said five and four. Sign me But in that formula,
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  Speaker 1: you had to beat the Bengals and the totally get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you do. And you'd like to beat the Texans
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  Speaker 1: at least once because you were right there when you
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  Speaker 1: last played them, no doubt about it. Because you want
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  Speaker 1: to keep pace. I mean they're screaming right now, they're
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  Speaker 1: on fire. The favorite was on fire. You never miss
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  Speaker 1: the chance to take advantage of anything. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you're on fire, you're unbelievable. You wouldn't be quiet,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Actually, you are the I guess the
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  Speaker 1: most social media adept person here, number one in this group. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: well you are at that. So can you decipher Jalen
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  Speaker 1: ran mz slash Leonard four nette social media posts over
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of days. I will admit I was
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  Speaker 1: a little confused, just because if anyone is the two
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  Speaker 1: best friends that anyone could have, it be those two.
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  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't predict that they would be taking jabs
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  Speaker 1: at each other unless something has drastically turned in the
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  Speaker 1: past week. But when Jalen Ramsey walked on the practice
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  Speaker 1: field last week, he was hand and foot with Jalen Ramsey.
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  Speaker 1: But hey, buddy's walking on the field. So unless something
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  Speaker 1: drastically changed in the past week, which maybe is him
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  Speaker 1: not playing on Sunday. Um, I didn't really take it
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  Speaker 1: as a shot, but it very well could have been.
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  Speaker 1: It's a shot. I mean last week the owner, the
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  Speaker 1: owner flew down here to have a meeting and the
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  Speaker 1: owner said on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.
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  Speaker 1: You may have heard of it, that they they expected
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  Speaker 1: him to play and he didn't play. Right. So look,
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing now seems turned against him, as far
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  Speaker 1: as I can can tell, you know, whether it was
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  Speaker 1: entirely before now, it sure seems to be. We were
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  Speaker 1: getting indications last week from players in the locker room
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want to talk about Jalen anymore. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: care whether he played or not. They wanted to talk
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  Speaker 1: about what they were going to do. I think the
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  Speaker 1: whole worm has turned on this one. And so when
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  Speaker 1: I read those and I'm not the social media maven
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  Speaker 1: of Miss Sullivan. However, who I do read John Osian
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  Speaker 1: on a regular basis, which is kind of like staying
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  Speaker 1: on a holiday and express, so I can interpret it
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  Speaker 1: to say, yeah, those were shots. Was that comparison whether
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  Speaker 1: or not they were shots. You can't be around the
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  Speaker 1: team and these players. That not a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: from the start of this. This was not a case
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  Speaker 1: where the locker room is going to be divided over
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. He's a player here, but he's not a leader.
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  Speaker 1: Never wanted to be a leader. There are different roles
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  Speaker 1: in locker rooms. That was never his, So that was
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  Speaker 1: never going to be a thing. And when that's true,
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  Speaker 1: over time, players get that you have to fight for
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  Speaker 1: your money. It's a business. Everybody understands that. But they
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  Speaker 1: also know there's a way to go about it. There's
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  Speaker 1: a time to do it, and the time to do
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  Speaker 1: it is not when you're angry after a week two
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  Speaker 1: loss where you made a mistake on the field, got
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  Speaker 1: called out for it, and now you and now I
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  Speaker 1: guess this is what happened from t Lea's Now you're
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  Speaker 1: mad that you've got called out for us, and now
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  Speaker 1: you want to be traded and now you can't walk
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  Speaker 1: yourself back from it. Um everything Jalen said, how much
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  Speaker 1: he loves his teammates, how much he loves winning, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't wash if you're not in the field. If this
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  Speaker 1: is not a major back injury, which as I said
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of days, I am concerned whether or
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  Speaker 1: not he will play football again or or at a
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  Speaker 1: high level. Because if he, if he's hurt this bad,
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  Speaker 1: can he ever make the Pro Bowl again? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Three weeks in a row it must be something. Can
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  Speaker 1: I ask a question ahead? And because I think this
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  Speaker 1: has now become the pertinent question? Where is the law
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  Speaker 1: of diminishing returns applied in this? In other words, when
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  Speaker 1: does this get to the point where the Jaguars should
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  Speaker 1: just go? You know what, we don't care whether it's
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  Speaker 1: him getting what he wants, as long as we get
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  Speaker 1: what we want. Where do you start to lose? Or
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  Speaker 1: if they already passed it this year in terms of
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  Speaker 1: time to move on, well, where does that point come? Well?
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  Speaker 1: There are reports that the Eagles keep calling, right if
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  Speaker 1: you follow the social media or report they offer. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen what they're offering, but they keep calling each week.
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  Speaker 1: The problem, the inherent problem is you know, and I don't,
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  Speaker 1: honestly don't believe it's a distraction except right here and
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  Speaker 1: for a few minutes in the locker room, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the players care about it that much. Um
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  Speaker 1: they're used to putting in a game plan with him
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  Speaker 1: without him, I don't think it's hurt their performance on
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  Speaker 1: the field without him. It hurts when he's not there,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think it distracts from very much except
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  Speaker 1: when we're talking about it. The problem is, if a
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  Speaker 1: team like the Eagles of the Ravens offer you two
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  Speaker 1: once for him, you're getting two twos, so they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to get commissioner of value. And the other side
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  Speaker 1: of it is, don't let this guy get his way.
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  Speaker 1: Don't let him force latter. He has two years left
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  Speaker 1: on his contract. This is not a The team franchised
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  Speaker 1: the guy and now he's mad. He's mad about two
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  Speaker 1: years after its kind with a franchise egg. Don't set
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  Speaker 1: this president. Either put him put him on hour, or
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  Speaker 1: let him play, let continue practice. That's fine, but don't
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  Speaker 1: let him get out of here. I wouldn't put him
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  Speaker 1: in I r I deactivate him every week. I asked
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  Speaker 1: what he wants. Then he's got the built in excuse
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  Speaker 1: unhurt right, the activate him every week and ignored. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: don't take his calls unless he's hurt, which I assume
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  Speaker 1: he is. Worried alright, and I did not sleep well,
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  Speaker 1: As Tony Boselli said, missing three weeks in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: must be serious. So we'll see how to be the back?
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  Speaker 1: Can you ever play at the same level if if
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  Speaker 1: I'm another team at this point, That's what I'm worried about.
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  Speaker 1: Kenny walk again. As Jalen Ramsey said on his Instagram
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  Speaker 1: story the other night, positive vibes on like please right,
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  Speaker 1: John sending him his way. So Gardner means you today
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  Speaker 1: in the building on this Tuesday, on the players off day,
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  Speaker 1: and it was in the lunch room and the Florida
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  Speaker 1: State Clemson game was on, and he's sitting there eating
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  Speaker 1: lunch and he's jamming out loud on his phone the
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  Speaker 1: Almond Brothers Jessica. I feel like he's in his zone
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  Speaker 1: right now. He's ready. He's gonna be him even after
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  Speaker 1: a poor performance last week for this offense, this is him.
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  Speaker 1: You should grow a mustache because that sounds like he's
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  Speaker 1: your kindred spirit. He was playing it out loud and
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  Speaker 1: for Clary's sake. Ashley Almond Brothers prominent Southern rock band
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  Speaker 1: from Jacksonville, many prominent hits, not known for their songwriting
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  Speaker 1: as much as their musicianship. Um, so yes, I think
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be fine, and he's gonna continue to
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  Speaker 1: be the same guy that he already is. Sure, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is a good week, as we said
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  Speaker 1: earlier against the Cincinnati team, to get back on track.
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  Speaker 1: I think the growing kind of maybe hampered him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit last week. Just it looks like he didn't
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  Speaker 1: have the running, the moving ability. Maybe I don't, who knows,
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  Speaker 1: what do you guys? I didn't see that. What I
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  Speaker 1: saw was a defense in New Orleans that had the
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  Speaker 1: talent upfront and in the secondary. They're really good to
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  Speaker 1: be able to execute that too high on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the field. Um, if Cincinnati tries that this week,
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  Speaker 1: they got no chance of They don't have the pass rush,
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  Speaker 1: they have a league low seven sacks, they're missing both
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  Speaker 1: their starting corners, one of their starting safeties can't play
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  Speaker 1: the entire game. He's going in series by series. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have the personnel to try to attack the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: like that. Um, I thought it was mostly the Saints,
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  Speaker 1: and I just I think their defensive talent is vastly
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  Speaker 1: underrated by people in the league. Their talent overall as
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  Speaker 1: as underrated. Uh. Somebody tell me yesterday the jay Wards
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  Speaker 1: think that's the best team they've played so far. And
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense if you take the quarterback out of
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  Speaker 1: the equation, the Saints are a much better team in
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, I think in terms of their death what
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  Speaker 1: they can. Uh. And now that Mahomes is out, you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing the Chiefs very vulnerable with breeze out, the Saints
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  Speaker 1: not as vulnerable. That's probably the best team they've played.
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  Speaker 1: They have the personnel to do what they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do to the Jags. Uh. That's said. There were some
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  Speaker 1: things can actually that they saw that we're a weakness
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  Speaker 1: for Minshew. That teams are gonna try some version of it.
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  Speaker 1: So at some point he's gonna have to get back
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  Speaker 1: through that. I guess we'll find out how seriousness, how
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  Speaker 1: serious that groin is. Um. But I do think as
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  Speaker 1: strong as I said last week, that that Minshew is
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  Speaker 1: the guy going forward. Uh. You know, it's a debate.
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  Speaker 1: It's a topic I think I jumped to seeing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people did. Uh. He's got to play better,
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  Speaker 1: significantly better than did last week to be the guy.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great chance to find out how he rebounds.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't really had to see that because he had
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  Speaker 1: such consistent performances from opening day through Carolina. All right, now,
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  Speaker 1: let's see how he takes those weaknesses, studies them, and
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  Speaker 1: then tries to attack the defense with him. I think
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  Speaker 1: this would be a very telling week in Gardner Minshew's
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  Speaker 1: young career. Ashlyn, when are we going to see the
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  Speaker 1: long anticipated film Room with you and Gardner? Is that
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  Speaker 1: this week? Finally we promised it last sponsors. She just
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  Speaker 1: didn't enough time to make sure that she taught Gardner
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  Speaker 1: everything she knows. Man, it was a lesson. He was
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  Speaker 1: taking notes, he ran out of paper. It was a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But now he's going to play better than Cincinnati because
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  Speaker 1: he has the notes that Schlin of all time with
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  Speaker 1: this Friday, Jaguars dot Com, all the other places to
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  Speaker 1: get Jaguars dot com. Sure yes, looking forward to that
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  Speaker 1: busy week at Daily's Place to Zach Brown Chicago young Thug,
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  Speaker 1: anybody young thug? For me, John is a big, young
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  Speaker 1: thug guy. I don't know much about the other two guys. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's pretty good, Okay, Jessica, Well there's a remix. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It really is what I'm seeing. They were young thugs
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  Speaker 1: in the day those That's okay, story for another day.
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  Speaker 1: That'll do it for Jaguars Reporters podcast is sweet. Bryan Sexton,
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  Speaker 1: John Os, you're Ashton Sullivan. For Joe Fortunado, I'm J P. Shadrick.
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  Speaker 1: Will talk to you next time. JAG's Bengals coming up
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  Speaker 1: this Sunday,