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The Late Debate | 21 October · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debates.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and thanks for your company tonight. Joining me
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Speaker 2: this evening in lou of James McPherson and CAYLEB Bond,
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Speaker 2: who have both deserted us for the night, we have
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Speaker 2: du hildorand and kel Richards joining us. He's edging closer
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Speaker 2: to a permanent spot.
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Speaker 1: He really just call a We're happy to fill in.
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Speaker 2: Oh good anytime. These two are not new to the
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Speaker 2: Late Debate, as you well know. But coming up tonight,
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Speaker 2: the Irish government has sent out a call to expats
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Speaker 2: here in sunny Australia, calling on them to come home
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Speaker 2: and help with their own housing crisis. Build more houses,
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Speaker 2: they say, we'll make it worth your while. Well, it's
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Speaker 2: sparked a backlash that they didn't see coming. Also coming
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Speaker 2: up in the papers tonight, still manufacturers in Victoria feeling
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Speaker 2: very duped by duplicitous politicians finding out that they're buying
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Speaker 2: their steel from China for some massive projects. You can
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Speaker 2: imagine how cheated they feel. Also in the papers tonight,
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Speaker 2: job losses being masked by the care economy. It appears
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Speaker 2: not is all as it seems, but will get into
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Speaker 2: those numbers soon but first, they're in your water supply,
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Speaker 2: they're in your food, they're in your cooking implements, they're
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Speaker 2: absolutely everywhere. These man made chemicals known as pfas or
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Speaker 2: forever chemicals, because they don't break down in the environment
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Speaker 2: and they don't break down in your system. These man
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Speaker 2: made chemicals are linked to a raft of illnesses and
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Speaker 2: different health complications. There's a reason why the US claims
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Speaker 2: it spends two hundred and fifty billion dollars every year
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Speaker 2: on the poor health side effects due to people consuming
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Speaker 2: pfas in their everyday food and water. Now, this is
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Speaker 2: a big soapbox of mine, as you know, and we've
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Speaker 2: been talking about this for quite some time now, but
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Speaker 2: it looks like Australia may be taking some action. You
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Speaker 2: would remember six months ago this headline shocked a nation.
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Speaker 2: It read Australian drinking water now allows US car synogen
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Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty times the US rate. It
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Speaker 2: bears mentioning that the US have warned there are no
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Speaker 2: safe levels of exposure to these chemicals. So this, well,
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Speaker 2: this put some fire under Australia's drinking water, didn't it.
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Speaker 2: They decided they might start running some tests and we
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Speaker 2: all know how that went here in Sydney with two
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Speaker 2: dams closed down due to the levels of pfas found
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Speaker 2: in the water. Well, now we see the National Health
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Speaker 2: and Medical Research Council has taken action today. This article
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Speaker 2: by the Sydney Morning Herald reads new thresholds to be
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Speaker 2: announced by the National Health and Medical Research Council on
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Speaker 2: Monday will slash allowable levels of three different kinds of
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Speaker 2: pea fasts, keep in mind as over fourteen thousand chemicals
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Speaker 2: under the p FAS umbrella in tap water, and introduce
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Speaker 2: limits for the first time on a fourth of these chemicals.
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Speaker 2: So it's taken six months, but better late than never. Joe,
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Speaker 2: And is this reassuring given we actually don't know the
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Speaker 2: state of play right because there's no regulation in Australia
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Speaker 2: to say that they have to test our water supply.
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Speaker 2: I go to the vast majority in Australia.
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Speaker 3: We're all at testing is by our own drinking water.
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Speaker 3: This is literally the plot of Batman. This is this
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Speaker 3: is what the joke, what the joker tried to do.
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Speaker 3: Nor rash Gul. But I'll won't, I won't sweat on ceremony. Yes,
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Speaker 3: I am reassured because this our thanks to your advocacy
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Speaker 3: and thanks to the Australian government the National Health Medical
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Speaker 3: Research Council acting on this, the number has been cut
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Speaker 3: for one particular p fast chemical from one hundred and
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Speaker 3: forty times the safe limit that the US has to
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Speaker 3: just fifty times the safe limit.
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Speaker 2: Yes that I was about to get there. And notably
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Speaker 2: it's PFOA, which is one of the worst and has
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Speaker 2: literally killed lab animals due to cancer, so they know
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Speaker 2: that this is a norm carcynogen, and Australia is still
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Speaker 2: just told, oh, don't worry, it's allowed fifty times the
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Speaker 2: amount the US says is okay, but this one we're
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Speaker 2: just going to let it go by the bye. Something
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Speaker 2: else that's not reassuring at all about this kel is
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Speaker 2: this article reads that this is just a proposal which
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Speaker 2: is likely to force the cleanup of tap water, so
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Speaker 2: we're a long way away from actually seeing any action here.
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Speaker 1: Yes, can I say this has been very f about
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Speaker 1: the prefast things for some time, and having listened to
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Speaker 1: her today and then tried to read some chemistry, I'm
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Speaker 1: now totally panic stricken because I think it's because they're
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Speaker 1: not just in the drinking water. They're everywhere. They're in packaging,
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Speaker 1: they're in carpets, they're in clothing. These particular thousands of
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Speaker 1: chemicals in this particular chemical group are used because they
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Speaker 1: repel water, they repel grease, they repel oil, and they
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Speaker 1: repel heat. So they're really useful stuff to put in
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Speaker 1: packaging and fabrics and that kind of thing, and they
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Speaker 1: end up leading into the food we Actually there's one
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Speaker 1: of them. It's one of the prefast things. I've got
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Speaker 1: to read this to you because I can't remember it.
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Speaker 1: It's called the polytetrafluo ethylene. That one what a name,
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Speaker 1: but we know it as teflon and we cook on it.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm now really worried the modern world
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Speaker 1: wants to kill me.
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Speaker 3: But this is the thing, though, if and I know
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Speaker 3: that there are legitimate questions about all sorts of things
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Speaker 3: like you know, where the higher levels of augies were
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Speaker 3: caused by over produced you know, the extra food.
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Speaker 2: And well we are sicker than we've ever been, so
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Speaker 2: we're walking into pefas and microplastics and all this kind.
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Speaker 4: Of thing that dangerous.
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Speaker 3: We all be dead or are we dead? And this
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Speaker 3: is all just the afterlog and why is our.
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Speaker 2: Age about quality of life?
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Speaker 4: Though?
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Speaker 2: I think that's what this speaks to.
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Speaker 3: Just yeah, I guess, like I guess, in the perfect world,
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Speaker 3: everything you had would be super duper organic and super.
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Speaker 4: Duper good for you and all perfect.
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Speaker 3: We wouldn't need any processed food whatsoever, and we wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have any plastics.
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Speaker 2: This isn't even processed food. You can be eating food
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Speaker 2: and they've sprayed it with pesticides. It's a crawling with pefas,
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Speaker 2: so you genuinely can't win. And then if you cook
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Speaker 2: in cooking implements like Kel was saying, if that's Teflon coded,
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Speaker 2: guess what, You've just riddled your whole meal with pfas
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Speaker 2: from Teflon. So it really does curl guy.
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Speaker 1: And if you're not worried, show if you're not worried yet,
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Speaker 1: I don't understand why.
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Speaker 2: The moral of the story is the government's not trying
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Speaker 2: to save you, so you might as well just up
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Speaker 2: on the knowledge. Knowledge is power and get rid of
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Speaker 2: as much pfas out of your own diet and life
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Speaker 2: as you possibly can. Moving to New Zealand now where
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Speaker 2: we've all been in this situation, you're dropping someone off
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Speaker 2: at the airport and you can't pull in because everybody's
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Speaker 2: on the curb side saying these tearful farewells hugging fifty
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Speaker 2: people or however many they've got to say goodbye to well.
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Speaker 2: New Zealand has come up with a very simple solution,
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Speaker 2: a three minute limit on departure zones. Someone's finally done it.
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Speaker 2: They are calling this a limited hug zone. And if
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Speaker 2: you're one longer to say goodbye to your loved ones,
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Speaker 2: they say, well, just park your car, you get fifteen
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Speaker 2: minutes free. But the reaction to this kel has been
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Speaker 2: really interesting because some people say, oh, this is actually
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Speaker 2: very generous at airports around the world. Some of it
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Speaker 2: is basically like you've got nowhere to drop them minutes,
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Speaker 2: you just slow down and push them out of the car.
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Speaker 2: And others are saying this is in du Maine. You
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Speaker 2: can't do these people need to farewell, they're loved one.
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Speaker 1: But there are people saying, you know, these New Zealand
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Speaker 1: airport people are fascist. This is terrible, but no, they
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Speaker 1: are on the money. I mean I've pulled it, You've
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Speaker 1: pulled in there, and you know what happens. There's this
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Speaker 1: there's a limited area in the drop off, kiss and
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Speaker 1: ride area, and every single one of them is full,
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Speaker 1: and Grandma can't get out of the car, and there
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Speaker 1: are too many bags and they're there forever, and you
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Speaker 1: just think, go go go. I've got to pull in.
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Speaker 1: I've got people to get out, and the plane will
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Speaker 1: leave soon so that we don't get into panicst Three
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Speaker 1: minutes is actually a lot of time.
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Speaker 4: Can I just once.
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Speaker 3: I've pulled in anywhere I can get out of there
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Speaker 3: in less than three minutes.
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Speaker 2: That's what if you're saying goodbye to your nearest and
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Speaker 2: dearest and you're not going to the.
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Speaker 4: Band aid, you know, I make it quick. What are
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Speaker 4: you doing at the hug the last three minutes? You
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Speaker 4: can get pregnant from that?
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Speaker 1: Three minutes is actually three minutes is a long time.
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Speaker 1: That's what I've worked in radio for a long time,
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Speaker 1: and you work out that something like three minutes, which
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Speaker 1: sound short, it's actually a long time, like plenty of
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Speaker 1: time to do that, plenty of time to do that.
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Speaker 1: They worried.
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Speaker 2: I think it's more than generous.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you have a problem. I can think I can
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Speaker 1: get out of the car with my writers in three minutes.
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Speaker 3: If anyone is hugging you for more than three minutes.
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Speaker 4: In the media industry, you need to consult HR.
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Speaker 1: Because that is just actually, that's what happened to Channel exactly.
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Speaker 4: That's right now. I'm with them all all the way.
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Speaker 3: Another thing that I'm with all the way is the
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Speaker 3: UK Labor Party because the Labor Party.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't.
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Speaker 3: Realize that the United Kingdom and the United States were
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Speaker 3: actually the same country.
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Speaker 4: That they are.
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Speaker 3: Because the United Kingdom's Labor Party is sending nearly one
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Speaker 3: hundred current and former staff to the US to campaign
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Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 1: The red coats.
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Speaker 3: The red Coats are coming for the Blues in America.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 3: It's quite phenomen The head of operations at the Labor
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Speaker 3: Party who says they've got one hundred Labor Party staff
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Speaker 3: current format going to the US, heading to North Carolina
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Speaker 3: and Nevada, Pennsylvania and Virginia. These are obviously all swing states.
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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania is the one where you win that you win
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Speaker 3: the whole lot.
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Speaker 5: And they're going to be taking the fight to Donald
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Speaker 5: Trump on housing and saying how much how am they're
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Speaker 5: going to be In the meantime, we've got a slightly
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Speaker 5: different approach taken by Elon Musk, who is simply going
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Speaker 5: to offer a million dollars to I believe anyone who
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Speaker 5: votes for Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. You just rock up your vote,
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Speaker 1: you get your millionaire. There's a little bit more choice.
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Speaker 2: Musk has famously said that he is quote f if
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Speaker 2: Trump loses. He says, if Trump loses, the only question
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Speaker 2: is how long am I Elon Musk going to prison for?
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Speaker 2: So he is totally backing in Trump, but he's putting
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Speaker 2: his money where his mouth is. Making this extraordinary announcement
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Speaker 2: at a rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend.
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Speaker 4: Check it out.
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Speaker 6: We're going to be awarding a million dollars to randomly
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Speaker 6: to people who have signed the petition every day from
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Speaker 6: now until the ele accident.
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Speaker 2: And he kicked it off immediately in that same speech,
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Speaker 2: announcing that day's winner, a guy by the name John Draya.
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Speaker 2: Here he is the guy. I can't believe it.
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Speaker 7: The first thing that happened, you know, I screamed him
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Speaker 7: it was a million dollars, and I was pumping my
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Speaker 7: popping my check in the air, you know, pupping my
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Speaker 7: arms in the air. And I went up and actually
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Speaker 7: meeting Elin, I kind of frog out with the money
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Speaker 7: for a little bit, since he's such an influential figure,
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Speaker 7: you know, for you guys my issue, who are working
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Speaker 7: hard every day and you know it's important, it's really
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Speaker 7: important to get out in coding.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, the dams don't like this at all and have
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Speaker 2: taken to social media to say, how is this not
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Speaker 2: election interference? How is this legal? Something tells me Elon Musks.
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Speaker 2: A legal team went over this with a fine tooth
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Speaker 2: com before he made it. But how would you be
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Speaker 2: gl going? Wait, I just signed a petition supporting the constitution,
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Speaker 2: and I'm basically in a lottery to win a million dollars,
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Speaker 2: winning every single day until the election.
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Speaker 1: And I mean there's a block that walked into that
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Speaker 1: meeting and walked away with the million dollars. Who wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be complaining about that? Let me explain. They've got things
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Speaker 1: in American Core PACs political action committee. See anyone could
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Speaker 1: set one up. You need to register with the political
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Speaker 1: mob in Washington. The one that Musk set up is
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Speaker 1: called America PAC and they can collect money and they
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Speaker 1: can either run campaigns or support a candidate or whatever,
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Speaker 1: as long as they're registered. Now he's running a legitimate PAC,
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Speaker 1: and his PAC's got this petition, so it's not actually
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Speaker 1: vote for Trump. It signed the petition to support free
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Speaker 1: speech and the right to bear arms. So that's that's what. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: if you want to want the million dollars and you
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Speaker 1: want to sign a free speech about bearing arms, you're
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Speaker 1: not voting for Kamala Harris, So you're on the right time.
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Speaker 4: The packs were set up in the first flight.
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Speaker 3: The whole point of setting up the packs is because
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Speaker 3: its side steps caps on campaign donations.
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Speaker 4: Yes, so pack can spend everything at once.
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Speaker 3: It's not actually telling people to vote for a particular
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Speaker 3: candid or against particular Canadate. It just knows exactly who
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Speaker 3: the people it's targeting are going to vote for if
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Speaker 3: they do what.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes I make their own commercials, so.
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Speaker 4: Heats and heats of their own commasions.
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Speaker 3: But I just want to know, just a quick straw
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Speaker 3: pole on the panel, what do you reckon is more
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Speaker 3: likely to get people to vote for their respective candidate
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Speaker 3: A million dollars or some whiney pom going on about
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Speaker 3: how oh I just got him from it just come
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Speaker 3: in from brick lay and you.
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Speaker 4: Want to vote.
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Speaker 1: He might, but might be in trouble. It might be
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Speaker 1: in trouble. He's not buying votes, because if he was
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Speaker 1: doing that, that would clearly violate election laws. But he's
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Speaker 1: running this in Pennsylvania, and it turns out in Pennsylvania
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Speaker 1: you need a license to run a lottery. Now, if
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Speaker 1: he's going to draw a name out each day of
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Speaker 1: someone who signed a petition, that's a lottery. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: have a license for a lottery. Now, if the dams
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Speaker 1: could find away to start charging him over that, he
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Speaker 1: could be in trouble.
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Speaker 4: That's right.
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Speaker 3: In fact, it's the same laws here as well, and
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Speaker 3: it used to always be in you'll notice and you
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Speaker 3: won't be able to not notice it if you watch
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Speaker 3: any time everyway. But whenever anyone's giving something away or
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Speaker 3: there's a chance to win something on a TV studio ten.
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Speaker 3: We used to do it all the time. And if people,
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Speaker 3: if we would have say it's a giveaway to give away,
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Speaker 3: we're just going to sign the minute there was a
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Speaker 3: hint that this would be something randomly selected a lottery.
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Speaker 3: Suddenly you just ran into a whole bunch of regulation
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Speaker 3: and red tape.
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Speaker 4: You can't get up, that's right.
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Speaker 3: So you can just say I'm going to give you
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Speaker 3: a million bucks because I feel like it, or because
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Speaker 3: you said in twenty five words or less, why it's.
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Speaker 1: A competition million copetition.
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Speaker 3: That's happily fine, and commercial radio statues do it all
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Speaker 3: the time. The minute it's I know, we've got two
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Speaker 3: different names and we're just going to close our eyes
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Speaker 3: and pick one, suddenly you hit it.
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Speaker 1: Had to be you had to do something to earn
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Speaker 1: the money, which is why Groucho Marx famously, if you
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Speaker 1: want to give away money, would say who's buried in
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Speaker 1: grantch too? So answer the question and you got the
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Speaker 1: money because that got him over that legal hurdle. Can
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Speaker 1: I just go back to the bridge the people from
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Speaker 1: England who are going to go a new campaign? But
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Speaker 1: this is really weird. I mean, they were they the
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Speaker 1: Democrats were really worried about foreign interference in their elections,
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Speaker 1: from Russia, from China. How is this not foreign foreign interference?
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Speaker 4: Come? I live just next door.
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Speaker 2: I think perhaps the most entertaining part of this bizarre,
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Speaker 2: bizarre move is the notion that Americans in swing states
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Speaker 2: are going to listen to some toss from Britain as
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Speaker 2: to what they should do about the housing crisis, who
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Speaker 2: they should vote for. I don't know, but I seem
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Speaker 2: to remember America for a pretty big war to make.
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Speaker 3: The French coming over to help the.
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Speaker 1: Start of a global shipping them in saying.
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Speaker 4: But it's actually it's actually not uncommon at all.
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Speaker 3: So like Australian volunteers and people from my party stuff
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Speaker 3: will go over and volunteering drives. They do it with
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Speaker 3: Obama and they do it and they do it as
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Speaker 3: a training exercise.
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Speaker 2: No, normally we don't normally advertise it though. That is
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Speaker 2: what is the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: This is their head.
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Speaker 4: That is that is the word. Yeah, I was looking
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Speaker 4: for another head of operations.
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Speaker 3: Hi, I'm the head of secret operations for the UK
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Speaker 3: Labor Party.
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Speaker 4: Guess what we're doing in the collection.
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Speaker 1: But it could be a pattern. If you've got Labor
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Speaker 1: for for Karmela, which is what they've got, there could
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Speaker 1: be Australia for for Trump. That could be Shamoa for Carmela,
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Speaker 1: Japan for Trump, the Easter Island for.
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Speaker 3: White women under five foot six who wear shoes for
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Speaker 3: Kamela as well as you know black women are over
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Speaker 3: five foot who liked it.
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Speaker 1: There is actually a room of white men for karma
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Speaker 1: now it actually exists, I mean black men for indeed.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure if the Dems can find a way
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Speaker 2: to take elon master task over this, they will. We
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Speaker 2: all know Kamala's DOJ the Department of Justice is suing
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Speaker 2: both Alabama and Virginia for trying to clean up their
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Speaker 2: electoral role and get illegals off that something that's simple.
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Speaker 2: We've now got Texas and Florida also begging the FEDS
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Speaker 2: to help them because they have the intel to prove
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Speaker 2: certain people shouldn't be on their electoral roles. And are
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Speaker 2: they getting any help from the Feds. No, they are not.
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Speaker 2: But perhaps there is no better example of how differently
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Speaker 2: these administrations will run and make policy. Then at two
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Speaker 2: rallies over the weekend where someone called out Jesus's Lord
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Speaker 2: at a Kamala Harris rally and someone called out Crisis
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Speaker 2: King at a JD Vance rally, and their reactions were
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Speaker 2: chalk and cheese. Look at how Kamala reacted to this
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Speaker 2: fellow in the crowd simply calling out Jesus's Lord with
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Speaker 2: the intention.
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Speaker 8: That they would undo the protections.
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Speaker 9: Of Roe v Wade, and they did as he intended.
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Speaker 4: Oh, you guys are at the wrong rally.
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Speaker 8: No, I think you meant to go to the smaller
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Speaker 8: one down the street.
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Speaker 2: Just mocking him. Those two young men then talk to
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Speaker 2: Fox News sharing their experience of then being ushered out
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Speaker 2: of the rally. They weren't even allowed to stay for
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Speaker 2: simply stating Jesus is Lord. Now, you don't have to
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Speaker 2: be a Christian, you don't have to be a Catholic.
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Speaker 2: But where's the tolerance, where's the inclusion? Kamala and co?
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Speaker 2: And let's not forget. Within hours of this, Kamala was
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Speaker 2: rocking up at a church trying to play the Christian card.
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Speaker 2: I mean the hypocrisy here. One minute, somebody gets booted
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Speaker 2: out of your rally for yelling Jesus is Lord. And
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Speaker 2: the next well, I'm at church, I'm frontline and center,
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Speaker 2: I'm pressing, I'm photo off.
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Speaker 3: He shouting out to be fair, though, the shouting out
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Speaker 3: of Jesus Lord is like the let's go Brandon of
19:57
Speaker 3: the abortion debate in the US. So clearly when she's
20:01
Speaker 3: talking about you know, reproductive rights or whatever they call it,
20:03
Speaker 3: or you know, reforming, so.
20:05
Speaker 2: You think they should have been.
20:06
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I don't.
20:07
Speaker 3: But it's it's like their way. It's like their way
20:09
Speaker 3: of saying, no, screw you. That's anti Catholic, that's anti Christian,
20:13
Speaker 3: that's any religious what you should have said. But the
20:15
Speaker 3: mistake that Carmela made was to say, there's actually for
20:18
Speaker 3: someone who says Jesus is Lord of someone who even
20:21
Speaker 3: his pro life or whatever, there's no place for you
20:24
Speaker 3: in the Democratic Party.
20:25
Speaker 4: That is insane. By saying you are.
20:27
Speaker 3: Not welcome at this valley and literally physically removing them,
20:30
Speaker 3: she's saying there is no place for you in the
20:32
Speaker 3: Democratic Party. And that is of course a terribly terribly
20:36
Speaker 3: stupid and damaging thing to do.
20:38
Speaker 1: In America, particularly in America.
20:40
Speaker 3: And especially when you've got so many working class people,
20:43
Speaker 3: Irish Catholics, Italian Catholics, Roman Catholics who obviously are culturally
20:49
Speaker 3: or sort of Democratic leaning, but also have conservative social
20:55
Speaker 3: Jesus Lord, yes he is, but he's not running in
20:58
Speaker 3: this particular race.
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Speaker 4: He's not on the ballots.
21:01
Speaker 1: But she didn't need to react at all. She heard
21:04
Speaker 1: that Jesus' Lord thing, and she decided she needed to react.
21:07
Speaker 1: And this is why she's such an appalling candidate. She's
21:10
Speaker 1: the worst candidate since Hillary Clinton, and we know what
21:12
Speaker 1: happened to her. So she's just a really she cannot
21:15
Speaker 1: very quickly, off the top of her head think of
21:18
Speaker 1: a clever way or an appropriate way, or a tactically
21:22
Speaker 1: good way to react. So she did this really stupid
21:25
Speaker 1: thing of going to the rally down the street. You
21:27
Speaker 1: don't belong in my rally. If you want to say Jesus,
21:29
Speaker 1: I mean as you say. America is a far more
21:33
Speaker 1: religious country than Australia. It is the vast majority of
21:36
Speaker 1: them are Baptists. They don't want to hear a candidate
21:39
Speaker 1: saying that she's done us off a lot of damage
21:41
Speaker 1: and then the idea that you can repair it by
21:43
Speaker 1: going to church tells you that Karmela may be Christian
21:47
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, but not on a Wednesday. Or maybe
21:50
Speaker 1: she's Christian at three o'clock but not at four o'clock.
21:52
Speaker 1: And that's exactly the problem. She's this changeable, could be anything, chameleon.
21:58
Speaker 1: Don't know what she believes she is, candidate, and she's
22:01
Speaker 1: underlining that, yes, I'm really like that, I'm really this
22:04
Speaker 1: very uncertain person and you'll never know who I really
22:07
Speaker 1: am or what I really believe. This is her doing
22:11
Speaker 1: self damage. She's had a really bad week and at
22:14
Speaker 1: the end of the witch he's just making it worse.
22:16
Speaker 1: And JD. Vance then responded to it because it became
22:19
Speaker 1: quite a famous incident. So when Jada Vance was speaking
22:22
Speaker 1: at a rally, a bloke spoke up behind him and said,
22:25
Speaker 1: Jesus is King and Vance handled it extremely well. He
22:29
Speaker 1: handled it just like this.
22:31
Speaker 3: Anti Christian rhetoric and anti Christian approach to public policy.
22:35
Speaker 1: I don't think we've I don't think that we've that's right,
22:37
Speaker 1: Jesus is King, and I don't think that.
22:39
Speaker 4: We've seen.
22:45
Speaker 1: He is impressive, isn't he? Every time I see Jada
22:48
Speaker 1: Evans handling any situation, I think I understand why Trump
22:51
Speaker 1: chose you as vice president. And it was a brilliant pick.
22:54
Speaker 1: So he's looking good. Wills is looking worse with every
22:58
Speaker 1: time he opened his mouth. We should not be in
23:02
Speaker 1: the business of trying to pick outcomes of elections, because elections,
23:06
Speaker 1: isn't it.
23:07
Speaker 3: Because remember when JD. Vance was like the millstone around
23:10
Speaker 3: here Trump's neck, and he was now he's the liner,
23:12
Speaker 3: and it had come up with the weird line.
23:14
Speaker 4: I didn't genius, I like, am I crazy? Now is
23:20
Speaker 4: this thing?
23:20
Speaker 3: And now again I reckon, we should never, as Jared
23:24
Speaker 3: Henderson's very fond of saying, should never make predictions in politics,
23:27
Speaker 3: especially about the future.
23:29
Speaker 4: But I reckon, Donald Trump's going to win it.
23:33
Speaker 1: It's hard to see how he could lose. Now. Now,
23:35
Speaker 1: Paul murrayge was talking about all the statistics and how
23:38
Speaker 1: it's really hard to pick, and Paul said really sensible things.
23:41
Speaker 1: Well I'm not Paul. I'm not going to say sensible things.
23:44
Speaker 1: Crumb is going to win. Rowan Deane has been saying
23:46
Speaker 1: he will win a landslide for a long time and
23:49
Speaker 1: I thought, come on, Rowan, you may be my editor
23:51
Speaker 1: at the Spectator, but I'm not sure about this prediction.
23:54
Speaker 1: But now I've had an American statistical expert say much
23:59
Speaker 1: the same thing, and the betting market in America was
24:01
Speaker 1: saying that shame.
24:02
Speaker 2: I just don't want to jinx it because we've all
24:04
Speaker 2: got PTSD from twenty twenty. Okay, we've all still got PTSD.
24:10
Speaker 2: I'm not a betting person, but that day I was.
24:15
Speaker 1: A cross of it. I was terrible blessed to.
24:18
Speaker 2: Tail it on that will always chase your losses, never
24:22
Speaker 2: chase your losses.
24:23
Speaker 3: But I think so, and you can listen to it
24:26
Speaker 3: on my podcast The Real Story with Joe Hill Brown
24:28
Speaker 3: get it where we get the podcasts. But Australian political
24:32
Speaker 3: guru who's worked on pretty much every labor campaign federally
24:35
Speaker 3: New South Wales for about the last twenty twenty five years.
24:38
Speaker 3: He he has crunched arms and looked into it. He
24:41
Speaker 3: is convinced that Donald Trump is going to win. He
24:44
Speaker 3: has come out and publicly said it. And there are
24:47
Speaker 3: lots of different reasons for that. One is you still
24:49
Speaker 3: going to listen to the podcast even know I'm going
24:50
Speaker 3: to tell you. One is Trump is much much closer
24:54
Speaker 3: now than he was in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty
24:57
Speaker 3: and obviously the shy Trump voter hasn't gone anywhere. The
25:01
Speaker 3: other thing you looked at, and this is a really
25:03
Speaker 3: interesting one, is in the state of Pennsylvania, which we
25:06
Speaker 3: all know is a must win for either candidate, they
25:09
Speaker 3: unlike most other states, they do not give you paid
25:13
Speaker 3: leave or time off in lou on the Tuesday to
25:16
Speaker 3: go off and vote. So if you're a worker and
25:19
Speaker 3: you're going out to vote and of course, voting is voluntary.
25:22
Speaker 3: There you are taking a pay cut. You are actually
25:26
Speaker 3: losing money to go out and vote for your candidate. Now,
25:29
Speaker 3: which of the two candidates do you reckon has such
25:32
Speaker 3: a stronghold on their support base that they would actually
25:36
Speaker 3: sacrifice their paypack there to go out and vote for them.
25:40
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's not Karmala Harris. And I've got
25:42
Speaker 3: and I've got a message from another former politician, very
25:45
Speaker 3: senior politician who's in the US, who says exactly that he's.
25:50
Speaker 4: In a very democratic state.
25:53
Speaker 3: He says, no one knows what Karmala Harris stands for.
25:56
Speaker 3: And we saw it with the Christian thing. She's mocking
25:59
Speaker 3: Christians one in it and then trying to suck up
26:01
Speaker 3: to them the next toge I.
26:03
Speaker 4: Called her in a piece today, she's a.
26:05
Speaker 3: Costume in search of a character. She has absolutely no substance.
26:09
Speaker 3: No one knows what her actual values are because they
26:11
Speaker 3: keep changing all the time. And again, say what you
26:14
Speaker 3: like about Donald Trump, love him or love them, is
26:16
Speaker 3: a known quantity of people know what he stands for.
26:19
Speaker 3: He's a better performer, he's funnier, he doesn't take himself
26:22
Speaker 3: so seriously and He's something you can actually cling on to.
26:26
Speaker 1: Can I say? There's a word that covers it, which
26:29
Speaker 1: is the feelings word. Because Karmela tried to run a
26:33
Speaker 1: feelings campaign, feel the joy and the longer it goes on,
26:39
Speaker 1: the less people feel anything good about her. But Trump,
26:42
Speaker 1: the feeling just gets a bit warmer as time goes on.
26:45
Speaker 1: I know you've seen this today, but this is terrific.
26:47
Speaker 1: This is Trump at McDonald's and he talks to normal people,
26:51
Speaker 1: and he's very relaxed, and he just seems like a
26:54
Speaker 1: normal person. This is just a normal human being running
26:57
Speaker 1: for president.
27:00
Speaker 7: For a job.
27:00
Speaker 1: And I've always wanted to work at McDonald I never did.
27:03
Speaker 1: I'm running against somebody that said she did, but it
27:06
Speaker 1: turned out to be a totally phony shor himself up.
27:09
Speaker 4: But that's a good looking group. Hello, everybody. I've had
27:14
Speaker 4: a lot of fun here, everybody, thank you of it.
27:18
Speaker 1: And the thing is, we believe him when he says
27:20
Speaker 1: I'm having a lot of fun. We believe him, don't
27:22
Speaker 1: we Because he actually looks like it. Doesn't he lose?
27:24
Speaker 2: And so was everyone coming through the drive through. Obviously,
27:29
Speaker 2: working in politics, you know that these people have been
27:31
Speaker 2: vetted before they're driving through the drive through. But how
27:34
Speaker 2: heartwarming is this exchange. This guy cannot believe his luck
27:39
Speaker 2: meeting Donald Trump in person.
27:42
Speaker 4: I like this. I think I might come back and
27:44
Speaker 4: do it again.
27:45
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, mister president.
27:52
Speaker 4: You many parts of it, but hod many people like
27:55
Speaker 4: us to meet.
27:56
Speaker 8: I mean, I can see you.
28:08
Speaker 2: Now. Politicians always pull this stuff right. And most of
28:11
Speaker 2: the time I'm not a fan because it comes off
28:14
Speaker 2: as inauthentic and just a photo op, and everybody involved
28:19
Speaker 2: can feel it and can tell. But when Trump gives
28:22
Speaker 2: this a go, he's just so I'm here, I'm having
28:26
Speaker 2: a great time. It genuinely seems so natural. Everyone's delighted
28:31
Speaker 2: to see him, and it actually gets amazing track.
28:35
Speaker 4: He is just such a good showman.
28:37
Speaker 3: And again, this is what the new American elite left
28:40
Speaker 3: simply does not understand. Trump is entertaining, he's funny, he's
28:45
Speaker 3: fun to watch. When he does something, people want to
28:47
Speaker 3: know about it, and he can hand it.
28:49
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine, God help us, imagine.
28:53
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
28:54
Speaker 2: It would be so cringe seeing her do the exact
28:57
Speaker 2: same thing. And you watch Trump and you're like, that's
29:00
Speaker 2: that's right.
29:01
Speaker 3: And also, and again, of course he's skewing her for
29:04
Speaker 3: and it's just such an amazing.
29:06
Speaker 4: Bit of you know, real world trolling.
29:08
Speaker 3: He's scuring her for her claim that she worked in McDonald's,
29:10
Speaker 3: which is just flat out set is a lie. And
29:13
Speaker 3: and and yet still even when he's on the customer
29:16
Speaker 3: betting him, even when you know it's clear that Karmela's
29:20
Speaker 3: you know, dei pick qualities weren't enough to make up
29:24
Speaker 3: for her manifest inadequacies, both in terms of core values
29:28
Speaker 3: and intellect and being able to articulate her actual policies,
29:33
Speaker 3: they still just don't get it. So have a look
29:35
Speaker 3: at the reaction on MSNBC after Trump's McDonald's Skit has
29:41
Speaker 3: just gone around the world, and everyone like Republican you
29:44
Speaker 3: know right left alone, are just laughing at their asses.
29:47
Speaker 3: Look at what MSNBC has to say about. They're just
29:50
Speaker 3: so confused.
29:51
Speaker 9: What is the logic behind this going to a McDonald's.
29:54
Speaker 9: I mean, we know the guy likes Big Max and
29:57
Speaker 9: flair Fish, and he's used the word love to describe
30:00
Speaker 9: the way he feels about the food there before.
30:02
Speaker 1: But what's this about.
30:05
Speaker 9: There's no logic to it.
30:06
Speaker 4: It's a stunt.
30:08
Speaker 8: He has not put forth an economic agenda. He, as
30:12
Speaker 8: you know is, appears to be not well and he's
30:16
Speaker 8: engaged in some really bizarre types of activities during this campaign.
30:23
Speaker 4: Like it's just scrambling their brains. What is he doing there?
30:26
Speaker 4: There's no logic to it, right, well, just.
30:28
Speaker 2: Mixing with everything.
30:30
Speaker 1: It's just like you.
30:34
Speaker 4: Fell for.
30:35
Speaker 1: It's an election campaign. An election campaigns have stunts, and
30:40
Speaker 1: the whole feeling of it was lovely. There was a
30:42
Speaker 1: moment which we haven't seen in which Trump is getting
30:44
Speaker 1: really excited about the tin thing that they used to
30:48
Speaker 1: scoop up the fries because you said you don't have
30:51
Speaker 1: to touch them with your hands. He's a germophobe. Everyone
30:53
Speaker 1: knows he's a germophobe, and he was really excited about
30:56
Speaker 1: this thing that we think he considered that fries without
30:59
Speaker 1: touching them with his head.
31:00
Speaker 3: Even the fact that he understands the mechanics of McDonald's,
31:03
Speaker 3: like if you look at that MSN and again, if
31:05
Speaker 3: you want to know everything that's wrong with the new Left,
31:08
Speaker 3: if you like and again, I'm someone who's trying to
31:10
Speaker 3: get it more in touch with the people that used
31:11
Speaker 3: to claim to represent. But just that sneering, disdain that
31:16
Speaker 3: the hosts of MSNBC, who are the epitomy of the
31:19
Speaker 3: sort of elite East Coast left, have for McDonald's, the
31:24
Speaker 3: food at McDonald's. People who eat at McDonald's like the
31:27
Speaker 3: implication that, you know, he's.
31:28
Speaker 1: Just so low brow.
31:30
Speaker 4: They think he's just going there to eat.
31:32
Speaker 3: I mean, the irony is that they're sneering at him
31:34
Speaker 3: for being so low brow and stupid and mentally. And
31:36
Speaker 3: that's what people love about it is they are clearly
31:38
Speaker 3: so incredibly stupid they cannot figure out that they are
31:41
Speaker 3: being one hundred percent played by him.
31:43
Speaker 4: But again, that is everything.
31:45
Speaker 3: You need to know about exactly what is wrong with
31:48
Speaker 3: the allegius left that actually openly hates the values and
31:52
Speaker 3: the past times and the jobs of working class.
31:55
Speaker 1: That's the point I was making about the feeling thing
31:57
Speaker 1: I think Americans look at at Trump and Vance, and
32:00
Speaker 1: their feeling is I could if this man was the president,
32:04
Speaker 1: if this man was the vice president, I'd feel Okay,
32:07
Speaker 1: this is someone who looks like, well, he's been a president,
32:11
Speaker 1: he's done it for four years. He knows that. This
32:13
Speaker 1: is a man who looks a bit statesman like, he's
32:15
Speaker 1: older and he's just normal and he's sensible, Whereas I
32:18
Speaker 1: think they look at Carmela and they think of her
32:20
Speaker 1: behind the resolute desk in the Oval office, and they
32:24
Speaker 1: can't see it, they can't feel that that's right. So
32:27
Speaker 1: I think the feeling thing, the vibe thing that Krmala
32:29
Speaker 1: tried to use to wash away in with no policies.
32:32
Speaker 1: He's acting against her because the vibe and the feeling
32:35
Speaker 1: is with Trump, a vance, young vance. People in now
32:39
Speaker 1: saying well, if Trump has a heart attack, this bloke's okay,
32:43
Speaker 1: it can take over.
32:44
Speaker 2: We're not too worried. Of course, Trump did take a
32:47
Speaker 2: break from serving machs to drive through people, but he
32:53
Speaker 2: could not pass up the opportunity to talk to the
32:56
Speaker 2: press and put the dagger in Kamala because, as he
33:00
Speaker 2: has long told everyone, he doesn't believe for a second,
33:05
Speaker 2: But Kamala ever worked at macis.
33:08
Speaker 4: Brother? You actually have work in McDonald's now now I
33:11
Speaker 4: have worked.
33:12
Speaker 7: I now worked for fifteen minutes worth?
33:15
Speaker 4: Come up? Are you gonna put then?
33:17
Speaker 7: Ever worked here?
33:20
Speaker 2: You gotta love him, This is my People love him.
33:23
Speaker 2: He's so authentic. He doesn't try to pussy foot around
33:26
Speaker 2: what he's trying to say. He's just the sledgehammer that
33:29
Speaker 2: says exactly what he's thinking. Last, but not least today,
33:34
Speaker 2: Senator Lydia Thorpe made such a scene. Unless you're living
33:39
Speaker 2: under a rock, you've probably already seen this, but in
33:42
Speaker 2: case you haven't, as you know, the King and Queen
33:45
Speaker 2: are currently in Australia and who interrupted a reception for
33:51
Speaker 2: the royals today but none other than the woman who's
33:54
Speaker 2: got to be the bride at every wedding, the corpse
33:57
Speaker 2: at every funeral, and the baby at every baby dedication.
34:01
Speaker 4: Here she is.
34:06
Speaker 9: Kind of start against our people, get not our land back,
34:10
Speaker 9: give us by this style from us, our bones, our scar,
34:14
Speaker 9: our baby, the people we want to training in this country.
34:34
Speaker 2: What on earth did she think that she was going
34:39
Speaker 2: to get out of this?
34:41
Speaker 1: Do you think she is? She's what the King's.
34:44
Speaker 2: Going to just be like, Actually, you know what you've
34:47
Speaker 2: got to point he take everything back? Everybody else clear out.
34:52
Speaker 2: I mean utter nonsense.
34:54
Speaker 1: I've tried to work out where you go ahead with
34:56
Speaker 1: this and how you deal with a problem, Mike Lydia Thorpe.
34:59
Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty a bloke named Hugh Mahn was the
35:02
Speaker 1: member for Calgoli. He insulted the British royal family, and
35:06
Speaker 1: he was expelled from the House of Representatives and his
35:09
Speaker 1: seat was declared vacant. It's been done. I can't see
35:12
Speaker 1: any reason why the Senate cannot vote to expel her
35:15
Speaker 1: from the Senate and declare her seat to be vacant.
35:18
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be nice if they did that.
35:20
Speaker 2: Indeed, we've got to go to a break now, but
35:23
Speaker 2: stick around. Right after the break, we'll be discussing those
35:27
Speaker 2: politicians in the papers who have screwed over our steel
35:31
Speaker 2: manufacturers in Victoria.
35:33
Speaker 4: That soon.
35:37
Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're bringing you tomorrow's news tonight with the
35:41
Speaker 2: front pages. Are they major newspaper in the nation, kel,
35:46
Speaker 2: You've got the Herald Sun there.
35:48
Speaker 1: Yes, So let's begin in Melbourne. Let's begin with the
35:50
Speaker 1: Herald Son. They've got two stories on the front page,
35:52
Speaker 1: both of which are about the state government are falling
35:55
Speaker 1: up with big business and hitting big business badly. The
35:58
Speaker 1: main headline says the Big Steel and it's about the
36:02
Speaker 1: fact that Victorian manufacturers say they will have to cut
36:05
Speaker 1: jobs after being betrayed by duplicitous politicians who are allowing
36:10
Speaker 1: steel for mega projects to be shipped from China. Local
36:14
Speaker 1: steel fabricators say they were promised a lucrative pipeline worth
36:17
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars from the big build only
36:20
Speaker 1: to see orders disappearing overseas. If this is really the case,
36:25
Speaker 1: the Victorian government did promise it to local steel producers
36:28
Speaker 1: and then let them down, and when to take steel
36:30
Speaker 1: from China. It's bad on every front. I mean, it's
36:33
Speaker 1: bad from the development of the state and the fact
36:35
Speaker 1: that the Victoria's economy is not looking absolutely fabulous at
36:39
Speaker 1: the moment. It's also really bad because these are meant
36:41
Speaker 1: to be the people who are the big climate change
36:44
Speaker 1: panic merchants, and who is pumping most of the carbon
36:46
Speaker 1: dioxide into the global atmosphere, China, And how are they
36:50
Speaker 1: doing it? Making steel? So let's buy their steel.
36:53
Speaker 4: So I think the cheapest steel is.
36:56
Speaker 3: Also less about I did not know this, but there's
37:00
Speaker 3: different types of steel steel, and steel is steel steel,
37:03
Speaker 3: but there's cheaper steel which is ractually not as good,
37:07
Speaker 3: and so there's potentially you know, I don't think buildings
37:11
Speaker 3: are going to fall over or whatever, but I know,
37:13
Speaker 3: but first.
37:17
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen is already But even if it's a
37:21
Speaker 1: good quality steel, it will still cost less, and the
37:23
Speaker 1: locals can produce it because it's paid made by people
37:27
Speaker 1: who are being paid a pittance or else slave labor,
37:30
Speaker 1: wigas or something or other. So the Chinese are going
37:32
Speaker 1: to be able to undersell us. And I understand the
37:34
Speaker 1: Victorian government's got a big debt, a rather large debt,
37:37
Speaker 1: so they might want to buy the cheap steel, but
37:39
Speaker 1: at some point they've got to think about their economy
37:42
Speaker 1: and their manufacturers and the promises they made, which they
37:45
Speaker 1: don't seem prepared to do. The other big story on
37:47
Speaker 1: the front page is called slug for Developers. Developers are
37:51
Speaker 1: set to be slugged millions in new charges amid an
37:54
Speaker 1: overhaul of the state's infrastructure scheme. There is a scheme
37:58
Speaker 1: where when a new house development is open, then the
38:01
Speaker 1: people are going to make a lot of money out
38:03
Speaker 1: of it. They have to buy a percentage to the
38:04
Speaker 1: government and that money is used to put in infrastructure.
38:07
Speaker 1: They're getting very worried that it's not going to be
38:09
Speaker 1: done properly. They're seeking a guarantee that the money raised
38:13
Speaker 1: we'll actually go into infrastructure, and they're worried that every developer,
38:17
Speaker 1: big and small, will end up being slugged this sort
38:18
Speaker 1: of money. It really is as though the Victorian government
38:22
Speaker 1: is sitting there saying, who don't we like I know,
38:25
Speaker 1: we don't like people in business, can we?
38:27
Speaker 2: It so bizarre because we are in the middle of
38:29
Speaker 2: a housing crisis. We need these developers. We want to
38:32
Speaker 2: make life as easy for them as possible. The government
38:36
Speaker 2: can't do their job. They need developers. Why would you
38:39
Speaker 2: keep making life harder for them? It's just unconscionable. And
38:43
Speaker 2: now they're floating a new working group to partner with
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Speaker 2: the government to make some sense out of this because
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Speaker 2: the industry and the government have been unable to agree
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Speaker 2: on a model, therefore unable to move forward and get
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Speaker 2: these developments off the ground. How much more tax fan
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Speaker 2: money is going into this new model and the work
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Speaker 2: and more consultant.
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Speaker 4: So you do need to have a level so that's good.
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Speaker 3: You do need to have an infrastructure levy because what
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Speaker 3: was happening beforehand and New Soap I's got the same
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Speaker 3: thing as well, is that all these developers were coming
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Speaker 3: in building all this housing and then suddenly there weren't
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Speaker 3: enough schools to take care of it. There weren't enough
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Speaker 3: parks and playgrounds, in the areas for all these young
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Speaker 3: families who were the city plan and the roads that
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Speaker 3: need to get people in and out, you know, so
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Speaker 3: there were some new developments where it was just instant
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Speaker 3: car park, instant gridlock because the infrastructure wasn't there. So
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Speaker 3: the whole idea of this is that taxpayers, you know, developers,
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Speaker 3: make a motter out of all of these houses and
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Speaker 3: then just go thank you very much for walk away,
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Speaker 3: and the government has to pay for all the stuff
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Speaker 3: that makes those houses viable, enables people to literally get
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Speaker 3: to and from them. But the problem is, of course,
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Speaker 3: is that Victoria is now making it even more onerous.
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Speaker 4: It would seem to.
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Speaker 3: Build developers as part of a sort of cash grab
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Speaker 3: because they are just so broke right in the middle
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Speaker 3: of a house crisis where every other jurisdiction is desperately
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Speaker 3: trying to just cut anything resembling red tape to get houses.
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Speaker 2: But what you've just described is the process for when
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Speaker 2: you want to develop. I'm a developer and I go
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Speaker 2: to the state or local government sometimes both, and I say,
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Speaker 2: this is my development. That is all the stuff, all
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Speaker 2: the boxes that they tick before they approve it. So
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Speaker 2: all of that is already built into the current processes.
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Speaker 2: I simply don't see the needs.
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Speaker 3: So that velvets say, okay, so how much can you
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Speaker 3: build your houseful it say that just pull it out
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Speaker 3: of there. We can build each house for two hundred
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars. And the government says yes, but for each
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Speaker 3: ten houses that you build, you need to have a
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Speaker 3: park on the corner, and you need to have blah
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Speaker 3: blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: It's cash. They're actually asking for a cash, Libby, and
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Speaker 1: that's wrong. Really, that's it. It won't end up being
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Speaker 1: spent on schools and whatever. It will end up. Oh,
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Speaker 1: just dribbling back.
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Speaker 3: We want to make sure that the money we're paying
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Speaker 3: for this local infrastructure is actually going on that and
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Speaker 3: you're not just using it to.
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Speaker 4: Pay for I don't know, the Commonwealth games, Joe.
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Speaker 1: We've had enough of Melbourne.
41:07
Speaker 4: Let's head not to the beautiful.
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Speaker 3: This is the only story I care about, and it's
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Speaker 3: just whatever the hell is going on with the mayor
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Speaker 3: of Townsville.
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Speaker 4: This story.
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Speaker 3: With absolutely everybody is at war with his own counsel,
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Speaker 3: the zo whatever. He just won't leave for some reason.
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Speaker 3: Everyone's trying to get rid of him. No one seems
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Speaker 3: to be able to manage it.
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Speaker 4: But anyway, so.
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Speaker 3: The Townsville bought in great paper. It doesn't know. It
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Speaker 3: just sort of doesn't know what to do with this
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Speaker 3: story anymore. This guy's is not going anywhere. All it
41:36
Speaker 3: knows is that they have to put him on the
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Speaker 3: front page every single time, and they print the newspaper
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Speaker 3: his photo that inset is on the front page every
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Speaker 3: single day. Come hell of high water until this bloke guys,
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Speaker 3: and this time the story they've built around it is
41:51
Speaker 3: and this is quite amazing with Townsville's mayor, the reverse
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Speaker 3: kicker says, with Townsville mayor's midnight deadline now passed to
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Speaker 3: prove why he should stay.
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Speaker 4: At the top job. Right, so there's another deadlight has passed.
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Speaker 3: Nothing's happened. It's up to our likely new premiere, David
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Speaker 3: Christa Fooley.
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Speaker 4: It's your move, says they head problem. So how is
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Speaker 4: this for? I think?
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Speaker 3: Stephen Miles has questioned whether David Christa Fooley will follow
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Speaker 3: through on discipline reaction towards Townsville Mayor Troy Thompson if
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Speaker 3: the LNP are elected this weekend, hinting that the city's
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Speaker 3: embattled leader could be out the door before Saturday. So
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Speaker 3: Stephn Miles's question whether David Christa Fooley will follow through
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Speaker 3: on disciplined reaction towards the mayor Troy Thompson if he
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Speaker 3: says or elected this week, hinting that the city's in
42:39
Speaker 3: battled leader could be out the door before Saturday.
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Speaker 1: So on Saturday, no coming.
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Speaker 2: While Joe gets his blood pressure under wraps, let's go
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Speaker 2: to the Australian quickly. Job losses marked by economy. More
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Speaker 2: than ninety thousand jobs have been shared in hospitality over
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Speaker 2: the past year, twenty six thousand lost in wholesale trades
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Speaker 2: and six thousand in manufacturings, but taxpayer funded quote care
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Speaker 2: economy end quote roles have masked the losses, driving a
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Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five thousand jump in jobs being
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Speaker 2: created Across the last financial year. There were one hundred
43:25
Speaker 2: and seventy one thousand jobs filled in health and social assistance,
43:29
Speaker 2: sixty three thousand in public administration, and forty seven thousand
43:34
Speaker 2: in education and training. So this article goes on to
43:38
Speaker 2: say that approximately two thirds of the jobs created under
43:41
Speaker 2: the Albanese government a public sector. They're public sector, so
43:47
Speaker 2: they're making jobs and just being like that there's no
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Speaker 2: jobs lost. Look, we're actually doing quite well. There's tens
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Speaker 2: of thousands. You inspire me every day, Joe. Meanwhile, there's
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Speaker 2: ten of thousands of jobs missing out of hospitality, out
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Speaker 2: of manufacturing and other sectors, and they're just masking it
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Speaker 2: with like, oh, don't worry, we the government keep on
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Speaker 2: employing people. So unemployment is down and everything's hunky doing
44:15
Speaker 2: to see here it is so deceitful.
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Speaker 1: Well, what they're saying is we found these people are
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Speaker 1: prepared to pay. Are the people who are going to
44:22
Speaker 1: pay for these new workers in our jobs? Are you?
44:25
Speaker 1: That's what your taxes are for so that we can
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Speaker 1: have good unemployment.
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Speaker 3: While obviously the admin of bureaucrats is pretty nauseating, but
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Speaker 3: most of these jobs are age care workers.
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Speaker 4: They are not bureaucrats.
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Speaker 3: They are people in the frontline care for and that
44:37
Speaker 3: was the result of the Royal Commission, which we all
44:39
Speaker 3: wanted them all want to see that things. And nurses
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Speaker 3: as well. There's another suite, so they are mostly proper
44:45
Speaker 3: people on the frontline doing that stuff. But what they're
44:48
Speaker 3: saying is private this they have to do it right,
44:52
Speaker 3: but it is it is true that the private economy
44:55
Speaker 3: is struggling at the same time.
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Speaker 2: I hope labor pay you handsomely Joe for your loyalty.
45:00
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after the break to learn about
45:03
Speaker 2: the Irish government telling all the expats here come back,
45:06
Speaker 2: will make it worth you. While it's not going as
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Speaker 2: they planned, welcome back well. The Irish government is desperately
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Speaker 2: trying to lure back Irish expats enjoying the sun, sand
45:21
Speaker 2: and beaches of Australia because they too have a massive
45:25
Speaker 2: housing crisis in Ireland and are trying to get up
45:28
Speaker 2: their supply by twenty thirty. So they've released this multi
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Speaker 2: billion dollar government plan to address their housing crisis, counting
45:37
Speaker 2: on these expats loyalty to the Motherland to come home,
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Speaker 2: and it's met with nothing but backlash, with all the
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Speaker 2: Irish here being like mate, we are not leaving God's
45:49
Speaker 2: country for the miserable weather and working conditions in Ireland.
45:54
Speaker 2: Listening to, rather reading the responses by the Irish writing
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Speaker 2: on social media to their own government has been absolutely hilarious.
46:03
Speaker 2: This is part of their campaign. You're built Sydney, now
46:08
Speaker 2: come and build back home.
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Speaker 4: No one's interested, to be.
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Speaker 3: Fair, they only built Sydney because they were in chains
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Speaker 3: on convicts, on Irish Catholics.
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Speaker 4: So that's my background. And this government does not know
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Speaker 4: its own people.
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Speaker 3: You can't even get an Irishman to come home from
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Speaker 3: the pub the alone come home from Australia like they
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Speaker 3: are not once they're found they are just they're not
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Speaker 3: going anyway.
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Speaker 4: They don't even leave Bondi these days.
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Speaker 1: And they haven't finished building Sydney anyway, so they can't
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Speaker 1: leave yet. But you nailed it, Liz, because what they're
46:38
Speaker 1: what they're really saying is you're living in this beautiful
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Speaker 1: city on the harbor, come home to a cold, wet,
46:44
Speaker 1: miserable place with long nights and short days and do this. No,
46:48
Speaker 1: of course they're not going to go not working.
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Speaker 2: Before we leave you tonight, just quickly. One Kamala Harris
46:53
Speaker 2: supporter has found to eat dog food until Kamala Harris
46:59
Speaker 2: is in the White House as president. I hope she
47:04
Speaker 2: has a lot of supplies.
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Speaker 8: This is the.
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Speaker 2: Collective I Q of DEM voters. I am so.
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Speaker 4: Alarmed think this is healthy one.
47:29
Speaker 2: The dogs faces as well.
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Speaker 1: She's won the cane iron vote, hasn't she. But I
47:33
Speaker 1: think what she's doing is dangerous because the one thing
47:36
Speaker 1: you always do, if you have I'm a dog person,
47:38
Speaker 1: is you never take a dog's food.
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Speaker 2: If they're ever going to turn nasty, it's gonna be.
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Speaker 2: Then that's a wrap from us. Thanks for your company. Tonight,
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Speaker 2: stay tuned for the reader Panicking Show