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Show Rewind 7-23-26 · South Carolina's Morning News

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  Speaker 1: Live from the state Capitol.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News with Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Hope you're having a great start to your Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: James Clyburn, having a bad Wednesday, gave an interview with
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  Speaker 3: punch Bowl News, said I saw a picture from the
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  Speaker 3: Abdul l sid rally, and I'm very concerned because there's
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  Speaker 3: not one single person that looks like me. That's a
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  Speaker 3: that's that's indicative of what's going on around the country.
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  Speaker 3: Christopher Thompson, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Remind us who Abdul who.
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  Speaker 3: Abdul l Sied is the front runner for the new
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  Speaker 3: Senate seat there in Michigan. Ah, he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: taking on they believe Mike Rodgers and some Democrats like
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  Speaker 3: James Clyburn yesterday saying that the DSA has gone too far.
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  Speaker 3: They're going too far now. I I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: here's here's Abdul l Saeed. I think he's doing us
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  Speaker 3: a favor. Is he correct? Our Declaration of Independence created
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  Speaker 3: so it's it shouldn't be men are created equal, it's
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  Speaker 3: all people. Because again, as a Democrat Socialist of America,
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  Speaker 3: he couldn't identify a man or a woman so we
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  Speaker 3: have to go with people groups. And James Clyburn is
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  Speaker 3: sounding the alarm correctly, at least for the black vote.
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  Speaker 3: Because right now the woman over there, and I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: about Haley Stevens, I think's her name, Hailey Stevens, is
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  Speaker 3: up with the black vote forty eight points on, abdul
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  Speaker 3: L said. And you're seeing fewer and fewer black people
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  Speaker 3: show up at the Bernie Sanders aoc rallies. Even in
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  Speaker 3: New York, the DSA was not able to get the
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  Speaker 3: black vote out. The number one voting people group for
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  Speaker 3: the Democrat Socialists in New York happened to be illegals.
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  Speaker 3: So that's an interesting side note, because they are allowed
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  Speaker 3: to vote in New York politics. They don't care if
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  Speaker 3: you're well. Actually they encourage illegal voters. So that's who's winning,
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  Speaker 3: the Democrat Socialists of America. Now, this is abdul l said,
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  Speaker 3: talking about why Haley Stevens is wrong when she says
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  Speaker 3: that the concerns of the Democrat Party, which I think
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  Speaker 3: you and I both Christopher have disagreed with for many
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  Speaker 3: many most of our lives. Sure, but they at least
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  Speaker 3: up until somewhere around twenty ten, ish. They at least
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  Speaker 3: used to want to make America a better place for
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  Speaker 3: all Americans. We just disagreed with their policies on how
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  Speaker 3: to make America better. They are no longer concerned about
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  Speaker 3: making America better. They seem more concerned about Gaza. And
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  Speaker 3: Hailey Stevens was making the point, we need to refocus
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  Speaker 3: on America, not Gaza, and this was his pushback. This
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  Speaker 3: is a moral roll shock.
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  Speaker 5: Test, Like if you can't identify the systematic murder of
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  Speaker 5: tens of thousands of kids as a genocide, and then
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  Speaker 5: you want to say that you're a fire for human
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  Speaker 5: rights and dignity, that's just hypocrisy. So I just think
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  Speaker 5: that if you can't call the most heinous violation of
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  Speaker 5: human rights what it is, it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 5: believe that you're going to go and fight the Trump administration,
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  Speaker 5: or fight the pharmaceos, or fight the health insurance CEOs
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  Speaker 5: who are making my life unlivable.
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  Speaker 3: So we got to start with making Gaza right, then
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  Speaker 3: we can come back and fix everything else here in America.
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  Speaker 3: I would point out to him that the definition of
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  Speaker 3: a genocide is the exact opposite of what's happening in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: The actual land mass of Gaza has been expanding as
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  Speaker 3: Israel gives up more and more land to the Palestinians.
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  Speaker 3: The people group of the Palestinians, according to the UN
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  Speaker 3: the last ten years, is the fastest growing population on Earth.
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  Speaker 3: They are not shrinking, They are growing at rapid pace.
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  Speaker 3: So there is no genocide in Palestine. You couldn't tell
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  Speaker 3: that to any of the Ivy League idiots. They would
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  Speaker 3: tell you otherwise.
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  Speaker 4: But and how many people in Michigan are focused primarily
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  Speaker 4: on Gaza versus their own pocketbooks, as the candidate points out,
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  Speaker 4: their own healthcare costs, their own prescription drug costs, etc.
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting because you know, you have dearborn Michigan, which
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  Speaker 3: is basically little Gaza at this point. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how that's going to play out. I did see
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  Speaker 3: a poll that came out yesterday that had Haley Stevens
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  Speaker 3: up one point on him. Both I think would lose
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  Speaker 3: to Mike Rogers. I'm hopeful that they would lose to
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  Speaker 3: Mike Rodgers, although I hear a lot of political talking
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  Speaker 3: heads say Rogers would start at a disadvantage in Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: But James Clyburn is saying in general, the entire DSA
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  Speaker 3: movement has excluded blacks, and the one of the main
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  Speaker 3: reasons is not only are they fighting for Gaza, they
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  Speaker 3: want that, you know, river to the sea, chant going everywhere,
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  Speaker 3: but also so they've basically made the Gaza people the
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  Speaker 3: civil rights movement of today along with the trans rights people.
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  Speaker 5: So all of us together, who have our rights on
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  Speaker 5: the topping block, all of us together who've been thrown
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  Speaker 5: under the bus, we got to remember that we.
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  Speaker 1: Sink or swim together because.
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  Speaker 4: Rights, our rights, our rights, our rights.
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  Speaker 6: I don't care of their rights for a trans person
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  Speaker 6: to get the out care they need.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care of the rights to love who you love,
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  Speaker 1: right to rights, the rights a right.
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  Speaker 6: And real faith and everything right.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of emotion going on over there. But as
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  Speaker 3: James Cliburn points out, those every trans person in America
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  Speaker 3: has the exact same civil rights that James Cliburn has,
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  Speaker 3: that Christopher Thompson has, that I have. There are no
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  Speaker 3: trans rights that have been they're human rights, they're American rights,
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  Speaker 3: and they're not losing any of their rights.
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  Speaker 4: This is this is a self destruction of a party
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  Speaker 4: in progress, and we're watching it in real time. And again, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: how many people in Michigan are seriously more concerned about
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  Speaker 4: what's happening in Gaza that remember that's what he said,
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  Speaker 4: he said, We've got to make sure what's happening over there,
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  Speaker 4: then we'll worry about our own fability here in America.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, all right, thanks, thank you exactly. And so again,
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  Speaker 3: James Cliburn had a big voice in twenty twenty I
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  Speaker 3: am hoping that his voice is just as big in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six inside the Democrat Party because again, I
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  Speaker 3: liked it when the Democrats were just wrong on policy,
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  Speaker 3: but they wanted to make up their heart was in
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  Speaker 3: the right place. Sure, right now their heart doesn't even
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  Speaker 3: seem to be in the right place any longer. And
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  Speaker 3: if they start winning on mass the DSA starts sweeping
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  Speaker 3: these primaries, and if they win general elections, I think
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  Speaker 3: America is going to be in for a world of hurt. So,
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  Speaker 3: James Cliburn, I'm actually partnering with you today, sir, So
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  Speaker 3: we'll do that. Hey, by the way, coming up, we're
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  Speaker 3: going to play a little bit of our interview with
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  Speaker 3: Ralph Norman. He's on the show. As we continue to
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  Speaker 3: try to figure out who's going to be our next senator.
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  Speaker 3: Inside North Carolina, getting our day started at South Carolina's
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  Speaker 3: Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News with's Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning friends.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, what they want is not right. They have right.
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  Speaker 1: What they want is privilege.
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  Speaker 6: They don't want rights, they want privilege. Think about that for.
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  Speaker 7: A minute and tell me if that doesn't if that
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  Speaker 7: shoe doesn't fit that foot, I.
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  Speaker 3: Like that, does that shoe fit that foot? I wish
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  Speaker 3: we knew who that guy was. That was a good
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  Speaker 3: talkback Christopher, believe that's Wayne. Well, good morning Wayne, thanks
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  Speaker 3: for using the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app to
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  Speaker 3: let your voice be heard on the South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, if you missed the earlier segment, James Cliburn
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  Speaker 3: sounding the alarm that the DSA is infiltrating the Democrat
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  Speaker 3: Party and is actually leading them away from their original
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  Speaker 3: mission and now is, as Wayne says, trying to create
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  Speaker 3: privileges for certain people groups which would be very anti American, Christopher,
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  Speaker 3: very anti American.
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  Speaker 4: Well, those certain groups, the trans groups and those who
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  Speaker 4: apparently have a vested interest in what's happening in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, those are two of the biggest groups. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: are looking for special rights. That's what I want, special rights.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny when you think about the idea,
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  Speaker 3: and actually it's insulting to people who grew up and
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't here in the nineteen fifties. I wasn't on
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  Speaker 3: the earth and previous generations. But my in laws, for
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  Speaker 3: those of you who don't know, I'm married to a
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  Speaker 3: black woman. My in laws grew up in Edgefield and
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  Speaker 3: they were sharecroppers. They literally picked cotton, and they were
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  Speaker 3: told as children you could not make eye contact with
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  Speaker 3: white people in the streets. And they went to segaball.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't really finish school, but they when they did
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  Speaker 3: go to school, it was segregated. Everything was different. There
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  Speaker 3: were different laws in the nineteen fifties under the Democrat
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  Speaker 3: control of South Carolina and all the southern states. The
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  Speaker 3: Democrats ran it with an iron fist, and thankfully the
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  Speaker 3: Civil Rights Act was passed and all of this has changed.
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  Speaker 3: And so people like me, gen xers, we grew up
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  Speaker 3: in a generation. I'm sure you felt the same way, Christopher.
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  Speaker 3: We were told don't even consider skin color, which may
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  Speaker 3: have been an over correction because there are differences and
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  Speaker 3: that God paints with a wide brush for certain reasons.
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  Speaker 3: He likes all kinds of flavors, and we're not all
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  Speaker 3: the same. But at the same time, we all are
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  Speaker 3: endowed with unalienable rights or the all men are created
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  Speaker 3: equals just to offend, Abdul l said, but this idea
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  Speaker 3: that we had overcome what they're now trying to recreate,
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  Speaker 3: and they're trying to recreate a Civil Rights Act over
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  Speaker 3: trans rights, gaza rights, fringe minority groups where they're saying
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  Speaker 3: that they don't they all have the same rights that
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  Speaker 3: we we all have.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we need an amendment all men are created equal
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  Speaker 4: unless you identify as a woman. There then we'll carve
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  Speaker 4: out a special exception for you.
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  Speaker 3: That might be the trick, That might be what we
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  Speaker 3: have to do. All right, we'll be back with the
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  Speaker 3: Ralph Norman clip and more. It is South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News with Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 3: Yesterday, South Carolina Senate GOP primary poll came out from
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  Speaker 3: Interactive with Ralph Norman at nineteen percent. This poll was
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  Speaker 3: conducted Monday and Tuesday. This week, Darlen Graham in second
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  Speaker 3: at sixteen, Russell Frye and third at twelve, and Mark
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  Speaker 3: Lynch in fourth with nine percent. We talked with Mark
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  Speaker 3: Lynch yesterday, had him on the show, and then today
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  Speaker 3: we have the new front runner. Ralph Norman asked him,
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  Speaker 3: you know what was Lindsey Graham talking about? Do we
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  Speaker 3: understand how he meant to pass the Save America Act?
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  Speaker 7: He was doing it through what we're doing now. The
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  Speaker 7: Reconciliation Project, which all that is is a process that
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  Speaker 7: the party in power, which is a Republican party we
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  Speaker 7: ConTroll three branches of government, can put up legislation that
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  Speaker 7: would require only in the Senate fifty votes fifty plus
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  Speaker 7: one fifty one votes instead of the normal sixty. We're
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  Speaker 7: having to do that, and it's a with reconciliation. You
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  Speaker 7: can't spend any money without all sets, and the reconciliation
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  Speaker 7: package we have now doesn't particularly have the allseets, but
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  Speaker 7: it gets sixty billion dollars for our military, which we've
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  Speaker 7: been spending a good bit in Iran, mainly through the air,
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  Speaker 7: but it's got thirteen billion for intelligence. On agriculture, our
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  Speaker 7: farmers are in trouble it's got twelve billion for them,
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  Speaker 7: a total package of about one hundred and ten hundred
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  Speaker 7: and fifteen billion dollars. That is a stopgap measure to
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  Speaker 7: fund our essential things that are going on in this
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  Speaker 7: country and namely the military.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman, and you are
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  Speaker 3: pretty famous for being I would say a fiscal hawk.
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  Speaker 3: You are a conservative through and through, and so when
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at this Reconciliation three point zero, do you
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  Speaker 3: feel comfortable with passing it in its form?
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  Speaker 7: I do. And normally, you know, you look at every
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  Speaker 7: dollar and you look at every expenditure and make sure
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  Speaker 7: that we're on a path to cutting government to reduce
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  Speaker 7: to the Fordy Tree and in debt. This does not
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  Speaker 7: do that, but it's in talking with Pete HEX'STUS team.
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  Speaker 7: We've got a national pricess on our hands with protecting
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  Speaker 7: this country, and Iran has taken up a lot of
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  Speaker 7: our money.
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  Speaker 6: We will get.
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  Speaker 7: Up the next reconciliation package will hopefully get some of
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  Speaker 7: this back.
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  Speaker 3: The Save America Act a lot of Republicans want, A
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  Speaker 3: lot of Americans want it. I shouldn't just say republicans.
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  Speaker 3: It's like an eight issue Tom Tillis keeps making a
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  Speaker 3: big deal out of North Carolina that it wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: in place for the mid terms, and so that was
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  Speaker 3: one of the reasons he was voting against it. You
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  Speaker 3: have you talked to this guy.
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  Speaker 7: At all, No, because you're not gonna change his mind.
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  Speaker 7: I know him, and I'm on the airplane with him.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, he and Trump are at odds with each other.
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  Speaker 7: And it's kind of the Massy situation and really the
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  Speaker 7: Rand Paul situation. They just do not like the man himself.
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  Speaker 7: And it's unfortunate because we've got a country to say
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  Speaker 7: the president is speech, he's got proof of voter fraul,
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  Speaker 7: he's got proof of interference by China and others, and
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  Speaker 7: you lose your you lose your democracy. You're a public
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  Speaker 7: if this happens. So I don't understand Tom Tillis saying
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  Speaker 7: he can't be in place. If he wants it in place,
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  Speaker 7: it can be.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you know, the rest
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  Speaker 3: of us we're not in DC. We don't we are,
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  Speaker 3: We're not part of the making of the sausage. And
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  Speaker 3: so some of it they speak in a way that
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  Speaker 3: it's sounds like it's above our head. But it sounds
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  Speaker 3: like what you're saying is most Americans probably understand what's happening,
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  Speaker 3: and we could implement all this.
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  Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, I mean try going to a trying to
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  Speaker 7: get on an airplane in Charlotte, Try going to get
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  Speaker 7: get in medicine from a pharmacist. You gotta have valid
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  Speaker 7: idea that it's not that hard.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about the olive garden all you
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  Speaker 3: can eat pasta pass had more security than our elections
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  Speaker 3: last week.
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  Speaker 7: That's exactly right, and it's it's true. That's a good analogy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we went a lot longer with Ralph. You
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  Speaker 3: can hear the entire interview. He talks about a lot
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  Speaker 3: of different subjects on the National Briefing podcast that's spelt
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  Speaker 3: like my name Nash, the National Briefing Podcast, which is
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  Speaker 3: exclusively on the iHeartRadio app. I think I put a
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  Speaker 3: link out on x maybe even on my Facebook page
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  Speaker 3: yesterday at Kelly Nash Radio. Now, I know we're up
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  Speaker 3: against some tight time, Christopher, so we'll come back. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get Christopher Thompson's thoughts on that. Maybe you have thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on Ralph Norman as well, or the other candidate choose
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  Speaker 3: the talkback feature. Gett your day started with South Carolina's
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  Speaker 3: Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News on one O three
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  Speaker 1: Now Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 3: About six thirty three, hope you're getting a great start
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  Speaker 3: on your Thursday. We were just talking with Ralph Norman,
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  Speaker 3: who uh, you know, we heard from so many people,
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  Speaker 3: Christopher Thompson asking well, what did Lindsey Graham mean when
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  Speaker 3: he talked to the president literally within minutes maybe of
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  Speaker 3: passing and saying I think we've got it figured out
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  Speaker 3: how we're going to pass the Save America Act. Ralph
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  Speaker 3: Norman shedding some light on that. What'd you think of
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  Speaker 3: the interview?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he was impressive before. He was
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  Speaker 4: impressive in the governor's race. It, yes, just didn't all
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  Speaker 4: click for him in that race, but he's he's someone
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  Speaker 4: certainly that conservatives can get behind. I'm looking at this
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  Speaker 4: poll that you referenced, which is a it's not linked
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  Speaker 4: to any other campaign. It is an in dependent poll.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting that you know, Ralph Norman was more dominant in
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  Speaker 4: the Upstate but Russell Fry had bigger numbers. It almost
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  Speaker 4: looks as if wherever you're home, that's where you get
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  Speaker 4: the biggest numbers. Now, Darlene Graham got a big boost
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  Speaker 4: from women, Yeah, but she's still a virtual unknown politically.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's this whole circle in that poll, the
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  Speaker 4: undecideds in the low Country, And it makes me wonder
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  Speaker 4: if Mark Sandford is again looking at those numbers and
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  Speaker 4: thinking there's a hole that I can fill.
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  Speaker 3: You know, in that interactive poll that Christopher's referencing, one
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  Speaker 3: of the people that is mentioned in there, I guess
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  Speaker 3: it would have happened before she had endorsed was Nancy Mace,
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  Speaker 3: who was at seven percent. I'm wondering if Nancy May's
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  Speaker 3: endorsement of Ralph Norman is you know, do half of
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  Speaker 3: her voters go with him and then the other half
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  Speaker 3: go with Darlene Graham because they want a woman. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not really sure how that plays out, but that may
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  Speaker 3: have some effect. Hamila Evatt not in the race as
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  Speaker 3: of yet that I've heard six percent polling for her,
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  Speaker 3: Sandford at five, Duke Buckner at two. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: who's this poll from, but who is is there somebody
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  Speaker 3: with the last name of Lunch that we have not
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  Speaker 3: for I'm wondering if it's like, this must be a
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  Speaker 3: misspelling or something. It says Norman nineteen percent, Graham seventeen
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  Speaker 3: percent after Trump endorsement. They put that in there to
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  Speaker 3: make sure you understood that. Fry twelve percent, Lunch nine percent.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be Mark Lynch. Oh good, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for breaking that down. I'm like, what, who
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  Speaker 3: in the who is Lunch? I know we had a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of people just joined the other day. We were
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  Speaker 3: joking about them. Never heard of him Lunch. It's Lynch.
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  Speaker 3: It's Lynch.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So Lynch comes in with nine percent, just behind Fry
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  Speaker 3: at twelve percent. So those are your I think all
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  Speaker 3: the polls that we're saying, they may switch the order
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  Speaker 3: a little bit if you just remove Trey Goudy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because he was in that one pole at like thirty
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  Speaker 3: five percent. I'm still rather certain he's not running. So
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  Speaker 3: it does seem that Ralph Norman's now the front runner,
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  Speaker 3: or at least in second place. It's one and two
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: with you know, Darlene Graham and Ralph Norman and then
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Fry in Lynch kind of in that third fourth slot
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Aren't people going to scratch their heads though at some
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: point and say, Okay, maybe I'm willing to go with
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham's sister, especially if you know she has the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: endorsement of the president, But what does she truly believe?
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: What do we know about her politics?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I will reach out to her campaign again today. I've
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: also reached out to the to the Fry campaign. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: have not. I really have to get buckled down on
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: these people. I don't know. Why would they not want
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: to be on Charleston's News Talk Leader and the Voice
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: of Columbia. These are two of the biggest markets that
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: they're going to be campaigning in, you would think, And
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: so far it's been tough. It's been tough sledding with
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: these people. So hopefully we'll get We'll get them on
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the show here in the not too distant future. If
• 19:17
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• 19:19
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• 19:22
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• 19:25
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• 19:46
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• 19:52
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• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Now, Kelly Nash, we did it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: South Carolina. We passed a budget sort of kind of,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Christopher Thompson, is this a time for celebration?
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Well, the governor hasn't signed it yet, but and I'm
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: not sure it's a big celebration. I mean, we still
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: have a bloated budget. But they managed to at least
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: shift the ear marks over to a different bill because
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: they couldn't come to an agreement on the ear marks.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: This, I mean, this is actually kind of comical to me.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: The House is just continuing to expose themselves for the
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: libs that they really are. And that's why they hate
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the South Carolina Freedom Caucus, because the South Carolina Freedom
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Caucus is not even really extreme. They're just like, can
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: we just have a balanced budget, Can we actually just
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: try to give money back to the taxpayers? If we
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: overtax them, can we just try to have normalcy for
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: a Republican led state When you look at what they
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: said ended up doing. As Christopher alluded to, they have
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: now taken all the ear marks out vote. However, they're
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: then going to if I understand this correctly, they're going
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: to basically look at each one independently. Then they're going
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: to decide in a committee whether or not that is
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: worthy of being in a fund. Then they're going to
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: put that into the fund, and then that fund itself
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: will then be later voted on as a bulk package. Yes,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that could you make it any more convoluted?
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: And how how intense will this scrutiny be? I mean,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: if you're a powerful House member, for example, and you've
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: got an ear mark up there, do you automatically get
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: a check mark? And the lesser known legislators have to
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: fight for every dollar coming to their district. How and
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: why wasn't this scrutinized before it was put into the
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: budget originally?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: How do we throw millions of dollars what was it,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: three hundred and fifteen million dollars in ear marks for
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the House?
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: That's the House one hundred and thirty for the Senate.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: How did all that get into the bill without being
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: scrutinized in the first place.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: That's the beauty of ear marks. It's like free money.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: We just we just say we want it, and then
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: we have it. It's like it's like when you're a
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: college kid and you don't understand how money works and
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: they give you a credit card for the very first time,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: and then you realize, oh, I don't just get to
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: swipe it and get the jacket and get the whatever.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: At some point I got to pay for this. You
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: get to pay it back. Oh that sucks, and with interest.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I don't like credit cards now, okay. In addition to
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: resolving the budget impass, the spending plan includes a two
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: percent across the board pay race for state employees, also
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: money to raise the teacher starting salary to above fifty
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars. It also accounts for an income tax cut
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: that lawmakers had already approved. I think that if I
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: remember right, let me go to one of these accounts
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that I was following last night, because these people they
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: were working late last night. I mean, it wasn't like
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: they just dialed it in the Senate degrees Okay, so
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: here we go the Senate. This was Nick Reynolds posting
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: this about nine hours ago. So what was that like?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Eight o'clock last night, nine o'clock, the Senate has agreed
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: to a property tax reduction about half of what they
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: had initially sought, which is seventy five thousand dollars for
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: home owning residents sixty five and older rather than the
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: original one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So again the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: House showing you who they are. We do not want
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: to help seniors with the money. We do not want to,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: but we do want to help our favorite charities and
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: our favorite whatevers with your money.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: And seniors get a little bit of a break, but
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: not as much as they were expecting.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Or hoping for. And I know, was it I'm trying
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to remember who was it?
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: Was it?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Senator one of the senators was saying, we hear a
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: lot in South Carolina about income tax reduction, but he says,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: what I hear mostly is property tax reduction. That's RV.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Peeler who said that. Yeah, and so I would agree
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that that's probably the biggest concern for most South Carolinians
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: is the property tax levels. Income tax would be great that.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I think the income tax is more of a it's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: like a phishing lore for when you were trying to get,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: you know, people to move to your state. You're like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: no income tax, Well, that sounds great. In Florida, it
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: sounds great, and lots of places. But we're not quite
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: there yet. Although our income tax is a lot better
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: than most states at this point. We can do better,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: and we will do better, I'm sure. But the house,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: you guys, you're taking the l in my opinion. All right,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: we're gonna take a break here. If you have thoughts
• 24:30
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• 24:32
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• 24:34
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the low Country.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News on one O three
• 24:39
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• 24:44
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• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Now here's Kelly Nash.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: It's been an action packed hour. If you missed any
• 24:52
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• 25:00
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• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Christopher put that up right after the show and when
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: we come back Nuclear News for South Carolina. Yeah, is
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: this good or bad? We'll talk about it coming.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Up live from the state Capitol.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News with Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 3: So, if you don't understand something, or you don't actually
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: have all the information, I think a natural human response
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: is to be afraid of it, and so I am
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: now afraid of it. I am afraid of this proposal
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: for the Savannah River site that I'm reading about in
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the state newspaper. According to them, the South Carolina is
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: being explored is to something called a borehole where they
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: would bury nuclear waste. And what could go wrong? Kelly,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know, South carol This is a quote from
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the US Department of Energy. South Carolina is interested in
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: explore oring the potential role emerging technologies may play in
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the future of nuclear fuel management, including concepts such as
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: deep borehol disposal as a potential pathway for long term isolation.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Who in South Carolina said that? Who is that? Who
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: is South Carolina?
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Well, there is money involved here, and we're at least
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: exploring the idea. But the Senate has had a long
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: standing policy against taking other states nuclear waste. Now I
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: don't know how much control we have over that because
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: the Savannah River Site is obviously a federally operated site.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: So if the federal government says here it is, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: we can say not in my backyard all we want,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: but I'm not sure we have the right to say
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: no currently.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: According to this guy was his name Tom Clements, who
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: you know, he is the biggest director of the Savannah
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: River Site Watch, he says, there's no indication that the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: public would be supportive of a borehole plan that could
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: result to your point, Christopher, it could result in South
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Carolina becoming a dumping ground for a portion of the
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: nation's one hundred thousand metric tons of deadly eradicated nuclear fuel.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I know we had something years ago during the Obama administration.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I remember we were doing the Afternoon Show. Jonathan Rush
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: and I were back in those days, and we were
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: talking about the idea that the and what was it,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: like the Yucca or something. I'm fair to remember the
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: name of the place that the nuclear dumping ground was
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: supposed to be. And then it was just like, well,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: we're all filled up, keep it in South Carolina.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: This idea of just burying it in South Carolina seems
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: like a horrific idea. A horrific idea. Now, I mean,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: if you want to go just by like states, population densities,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: South Carolina is currently well, this was the twenty twenty
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: four I think twenty twenty four. Let me just look
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: at that. It's okay, twenty twenty three. This is the
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three guestimate. When they rank states, Number one
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: would be New Jersey with like twelve hundred people per mile,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: which is insane. And then you work your way down
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: to number eighteen, which is South Carolina at about one
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty people per mile. Now we are growing,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: so I imagine we're flirting with two hundred people per
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: mile by now, which would put us around Georgia and Virginia.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Nobody would suggest that Virginia should take nuclear waste, I
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: don't think, because it's close to DC exactly. They treat
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: us like we're some sort of and I say they,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I don't even know who they are. Whoever suggested the
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: idea that we might be a great place to experiment
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: with a borehole. We don't know what it'll do. Why
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: not try it in Alaska? Why not try it in
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Wyoming or Montana? Or North Dakota. I mean you're talking
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: about in North Dakota ranked forty seven. There's eleven people
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: per square mile, lot less opportunity for something to go
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: wrong and people to die with a borehole concept that's
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: never been tried. So I am afraid of it. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: don't like it now. I could also just looked up
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: by the way. One of my thoughts, I'm probably not
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the only person who thought of it. How much weight
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: can a rocket carry into space? So you're going to
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: pollute space instead of the Earth. I would much rather
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: go pollute the moon. Super heavy launch vehicles can carry
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: up to fifty metric tons, so and we have one
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand metric tons currently we're looking for disposal.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: We can't take it to the Moon because we're building
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: a moon base. Eventually, we're gonna be there soon.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Can what if we were to just float it into
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: outer space, just make it like it's you know, one
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: of those things. So if it did try to re
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: enter the Earth's atmosphere, what could go wrong at that point? Right?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Just shoot it down. We'll shut it down, and then
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: we have nuclear waste all over the sky. I wish
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I look, I'm not a scientist, I shouldn't be tasked
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: with figuring this out. The only thing I know is
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: that I don't want South Carolina to have bore holes
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: where we just take tons of metric waste and pour
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: it into our ground.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like an experiment. Again, you don't want
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: in your backyard. Let somebody else try it. And as
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: you point it out, there are lots of states where
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: you know, you don't have the population density that South
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Carolina has, where you'd think you could find some wilderness
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: to try this in if you're really worried about it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Now, did you you mentioned that there was some money attached.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Have you seen a figure at all? I have not.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I have not either, so that would are we willing
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to tinker with the money. What is it worth to
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: you South Carolina to be the great experiment for the boreholes?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if there is a
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: price that I would be comfortable with, but maybe you
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: have one in mind. What's that figure? What are your thoughts?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Let us know? On the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I pressed that microphone. You'll talk to Christopher and myself.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: We'd love to hear from you. The morning, Well, I
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: should say South Carolina's Morning News continues.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News with Killy Nash.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: This is one of those subjects that you know, we
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: brought up last week and I was kind of, I
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: don't know, I thought everybody had heard of these flock cameras,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: but I've been talking to a lot of people who've
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: never even heard the phrase flock cameras. And I guess
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: it was was it Wednesday or maybe Tuesday that the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: town of Irmo voted to go ahead and pass funding
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: to up their flock camera level from eleven to thirty three,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: so they're going to have a lot more flock cameras now.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: They're pointing out that the way they see this this is,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you know, for a half million dollars, it's a great
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: deal because they feel like this will help us with
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: any amber alerts, if there's a bank robbery or just
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: any kind of crime that we have a description on
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: a car. The flock cameras are basically designed to work
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: with police across the country and if there's a even
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: a you know, if somebody in Georgia puts out a
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: thing or whatever, that if that camera or catches the
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: vehicle going through it, records the data on the license plate,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: runs it through the police thing and says, oh wait
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: a second, they're wanted in North Carolina, they're wanted wherever,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: and then the police know to go after that vehicle.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: They're not supposed to be tracking law abiding citizens, although
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: in essence that's what they are going to be doing. Well,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: they're tracking everyone. Yes, that's the whole thing. Everybody's going
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: to be tracked. Yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: You know, when we talked about this Kelly last week,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I didn't have a major problem with it. I said,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: you know, for law abiding citizens who are just going
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: about their business, it shouldn't be that big a deal.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't realize just how big the abuse was around
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: the country, and there are a number of stories about
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: police who were, for example, tracking their exes ex wives
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: and what they were up to. There's got to be
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: further oversight, But in the end, I'm still of the
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: belief that it probably helps more than it hurts.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: So we mentioned that's coming to IRMO. If you're in
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the Low Country, it seems like there's about thirty three.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: It looks like in the North Charleston Charleston area there's
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: sixty one. It looks like around the Goose Creek area.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know how they got so aggressive nineteen and
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: like the Orangeburg area. There's one hundred and seventeen currently
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: around the Columbia area. And as you move into the upstate,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: that's where it really starts getting more and more aggressive,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: like two hundred and one in the Greenville area. Rock
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Hill is at like a fifty nine, but as soon
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: as you cross over into North Carolina, there's like two
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty eight in Charlotte, one hundred and eighty
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: seven on the French. I mean, this is definitely coming
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: for it's good. Unless Americans say they don't want it,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: it's coming.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: It's like everything else in AI. I mean, we're a
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: little concerned about it and what it could possibly do,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: but we also realize there are huge benefits. Kelly, you
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: and I are both parents. You know, if our child
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: went missing and they had a license plate number and
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: we're trying to get a quick hit on that license
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: plate where our missing child was located, I mean, we'd
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: be all in favor of these flock cameras doing everything
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: they could to track down a missing child.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: There's a website called dflock sc dot org dflock. Obviously
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: they're not for the flock cameras. Yeh. And the opening
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: page says in nineteen eighty four, the thought police weren't
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: looking for criminals. Neither is flock safety or ninety nine
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: percent of the plates that they scan belong to people
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: suspected of absolutely nothing. The data goes into a national network.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Nobody has ever voted on any of this outside of
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: council members. Ever got to say on it. Your council
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: members did, now you obviously that's the way, you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: representative democracy works. If you're upset with your council members,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: like in Irmo, for passing this, you can in the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: next election vote them out and maybe have somebody vote,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: you know, a new elected official say we're going to
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: try to take these flock cameras down. We don't want
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: to be part of that. I don't know. It's one
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: of those things where I understand what they're saying in
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: nineteen eighty four. If you've ever read the book nineteen
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: eighty four, which I don't think is required reading anymore,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: which is a tragedy, there's a lot to think about there.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: So the flock cameras are coming to the low country,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: to the midlands and to the upstate. The whole state's
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: going to be covered in these things, and they will. Again,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: they're not issuing traffic tickets. They're just tracking your movements.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: If you're cool with that, cool, If you're not cool,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: why not, Like you said, Christopher, there are some abuses happening. Yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: all right, this is South Carolina's Morning News.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's Morning News with Kelly that We've.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Got two stories colliding at the exact same time. This
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: is very fascinating to see it happen in real time.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: This morning, Meta released a new ad campaign basically promoting
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the benefits of artificial intelligence. I will play a snippet
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: of their new promo.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: We're betting on people.
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: We bet on people when we connected you to the
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: ones you lost touch with, and again when we connected
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: you to the ones you couldn't be here. Twenty two
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: years and three point five billion people later, we're doubling
• 36:36
  Speaker 9: down because while technology will change our intention behind it
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: never will. Call us optimists, shine moment, call us dreamers,
• 36:52
  Speaker 9: call us whatever the hell you want. But we're betting
• 36:55
  Speaker 9: on people, and we like those odds.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: The future is for everyone, all right, The future is
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: for everyone because people are people. Now. Contrast that with
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: the story that broke last night chat gp tea maker
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: open ai says it's now investigating a quote unprecedented cyper
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: incident that led to its artificial intelligence systems breaking out
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: of a testing environment and hacking another AI company.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Without any direction whatsoever. Just ai just decided on its own.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Just said it wanted to be exploring other AI options.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Let's venture out and see what else we can attack.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is that sounds insane? Christopher? Can
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: anybody control AI?
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: Is?
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: That is? That? Is this what we're learning that we
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: cannot control it at all? This is the worst fears
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: of everybody that it was going to come to life. Basically,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: it was like it was like Frankenstein and it was
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: just going to do whatever the hell want it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: I think that's yeah. I mean, it's right out of
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: a horror movie. It's And going back to our previous
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: conversation about flock cameras, this is the problem that some
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: people have with flock cameras. You know, we've all we've
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: for years we've had license plate readers, scanners where the
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: police would know, you know, your license plate number, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: where you might have driven if you were in range
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: of one of those scanners. These flock cameras are different
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: because it's AI, So they're putting together a profile of you,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: your car, not just the license plate, the car, everything
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: that's in the car at the time, including all your passengers.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: You know where you're going, what you're doing, and then
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: it merges if it finds other information on you in
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: another file, perhaps your social Security number, your date of birth,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: you know your your driving habits, where you shop. It's
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: all compiling all this information and what do we learn
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: from this story as well as other stories about AI.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: AI doesn't stop.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Now the Universe of Amsterdam. Social scientist Hans Cools says
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: this is being blown out of proportion. He says that
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: the AI was following specific instructions based on the prompt.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: According to OpenAI, those instructions called for using quote complex
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: attack paths to test how well AI can exploit a
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: computer system. They did not expect it to be able
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: to leave their computer systems though, and go actually attack
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: another one. That's what they were shocked. So Colin Shea
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: blmer cybersecurity research fellow at Georgetown University says, it went
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: off and did this hack all by itself. As far
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: as we can tell, this is the highest level of
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: autonomy that we've ever seen in the use of a
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: large language model for cyber operations. So maybe it's a
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: little bit of both. Maybe Hans is correct over in Amsterdam,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: and maybe the Georgetown professor is correct as well. It
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: is the most autonomous thing we've ever seen AI do.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, you asked it to do that,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: so stop asking it to do that. But at the
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: same time, what if it says, you know, what was
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: that movie with Matthew Broderick When I was a kid,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: it was like wargames, Yeah, let's have some fun nuclear war.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: What if somebody puts that prompt into Now. I don't
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: think my chat GPT. I don't have chat GPT, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you know, my GROC. I don't think it could do this.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: But maybe what if I said let's start a nuclear
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: war today? Could GROC do that?
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: AI is probably saying, you haven't seen anything yet.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Again to our earlier story about the nuclear waste, if
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you don't know what it means, then we're as human
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: beings were afraid of it. Meta's trying to override that
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: with their message of optimism and how AI is going
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: to make everything awesomet qt commercial. I certainly hope for
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: the best, but I am not feeling very confident that
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: on the same day Meta releases their ad, this news
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: is reported by just about every global news agency in
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: the world that they've never seen anything like what chat
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: GPT just did. So I don't know. Maybe you have thoughts,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe you have maybe you have more insights as to
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: how AI works than Christopher Thompson and I do. We'd
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: love to hear your perspective on the talkback feature on
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: South Carolina's morning.
• 41:22
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• 41:28
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• 41:37
  Speaker 2: NOW Kelly Nash.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: A few moments ago, we were talking about the Department
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of Energy apparently has indicated that someone from South Carolina
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: is interested. We don't know who that someone is, is
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: interested in exploring the idea of what they call boreholes.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: That these things would be literally miles deep into the
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: earth and there we could then put nuclear waste in
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: a canister. There would have to be a certain thickness
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: so that the radiation wouldn't get out and into the
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: ground and then bury our nuclear waste there. Christopher Thompson
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and I have had some concerns and people are also
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: sharing their concerns. Now on the talkback feature, what about
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: a propensity to have earthquakes? Maybe they consider that? Hmm, yes,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: yes I would. I'd have found a article on something
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: called Science Direct. Oh you're going deep on this. Yes,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: they don't have any answers. I will tell you what
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: they said was they were talking about certain rocks. They
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: were they were so here, I'll just write. Seismic risks
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: have been recognized since early conceptions of the geological nuclear
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: waste repositories, as it may change the characteristics of the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: local rock map and damage the canisters. While it is
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: expected that a repository would be placed in an area
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: of known would not be placed in an area of
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: known geological activity. So Elgin, you're off the map, You're
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: not off the hook. Yeah, you're not getting any of
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: it up there in Elgin. My gosh, they've had like
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: they get like an earthquake a day, it seems up there.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: But the point being is that they were looking for
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: certain rocks to drill it into. I don't know that
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: that would be the case here, because it doesn't sound
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: like that we would have this granite rock that they're
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: talking about that's stiffer and all that sort of stuff.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: We're just talking about drilling literally like miles into the earth.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: And one of the problems that I read about in
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: the interim was the types of drills that we currently
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: have available, the thickness of that by the centimeters that
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: they use for drilling oil, it would have to be
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: like almost triple in width, because that's how wide it
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: needs to be for this nuclear stuff that we're talking
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: about to be able to contain the canisters that they need,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: and we don't even have that equipment.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: You think data centers are a big controversy right now,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Imagine telling Aiken, for example, that yeah, you're about to
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: get these boreholes, and in fact, we're going to start
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: taking nuclear waste from other states, which our state says,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: we've already got laws in place that dissuade other states
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: from sending it to us. But I don't know that
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: we can say no if the federal government says we're
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: going to put some nuclear waste in the Savannah Riverside area.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at other countries and what do they do
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: with their nuclear waste, And again I'm assuming we have
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: probably the most nuclear waste because we're one of the
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: biggest countries and we were out early on nuclear energy.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Now we got California coming offline, and that's a whole
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: different thing, But like, we have one hundred thousand metric
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: tons of nuclear waste that we're trying to figure out
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: what to do with. Apparently they've got in Sweden, they've
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: buried sixty kilometers of tunnels with six thousand copper canisters.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Disposal operations will begin in the late twenty thirties, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: they're thinking that they can handle up to like fifteen
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: thousand metric tons. And Canada they selected a deep geological
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: repository in northwestern Ontario. It's undergoing the federal impact assessments,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: so they haven't they're not even close, because they're saying
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: in Canada they're going to start building this thing in
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: the twenty forty. In France, same deal, well not same deal.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: They're expecting to have theirs open in the mid twenty thirties,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: and that's going to contain somewhere around forty nuclear metric tons.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: So sounds like we've all kicked that can down the
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: road for a while anyway, And now it's.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: That's a dangerous can. That's a hot canue nuclear waste
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: is a hot can. You don't want to mess with that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: But again, if we're gonna if we're gonna explore boreholes,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: explore it in a place like Wyoming or someplace where
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: there's one person per mile as opposed to South Carolina,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: where we're at about two hundred people per mile. It's
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: a lot less of a risk in Alaska, although you
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: might end up hitting an oil I think there. I
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe it'll be uh, we'll double our pleasure,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: we'll get an oil strike out of it. I don't know.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: All right. If you have more thoughts, please use the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: talkback feature. We certainly do appreciate it, and we certainly
• 46:31
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• 46:35
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• 46:44
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• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Now, Kelly Nash.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: All right, the state newspaper has a timeline of what
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Henry McMaster was doing when it comes to the passing
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: of Lindsay Graham and then the appointment of Darlene Graham.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: And he listen, I got to spend a day watching
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Joe Wilson work, the congressman that represents me, and not
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: just Joe Wilson, all these politicians. They work so hard.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I know we like to poke fun at him or whatever.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: But Henry McMaster is seventy nine years old and he
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: got the phone call at twelve oh two am Sunday morning.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming that, as seventy nine year old at midnight
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: was doing the same thing I've been doing ever since
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I left my thirties. He was sound asleep, probably so
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: at twelve oh two. It then talks about how we
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: spoke with the chair of excuse me, the head of
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: staff for Lindsey Graham. He spoke, he had numerous phone calls.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: It was about thirty minutes later that he spoke with
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Darlene Graham. He was on the phone until it looks
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: like about three o'clock in the morning, So from midnight
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: till three hours of phone calls in the middle of
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: the night. Then in the morning he went to church.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I guess had more phone calls. It goes on and on.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: At ten seventeen, McMaster gets a call from Donald Trump.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: He then calls Darlene Graham. Again. The point of this
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: entire story is not that, you know, Henry McMaster works hard.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: He does. He works very very hard, as do again
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: most elected officials, not all, but most. The point of
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: this story is that it seems that at no point
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: did Henry McMaster even contemplate the idea that Darlene would
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: be actually running for the office.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of coordination in between state
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: government officials, with the White House and with Darlene Graham,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to figure out succession, et cetera. But yeah,
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: it appears that all along they were thinking this was
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: just going to be temporary, that the governor was not
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: going to weigh in on the actual election itself. Who
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: would take over the seat in January?
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the headline is a pretty good headline, six months
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: or six years? Who is expecting the six years option?
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: And I don't think no one there was no discussion
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: until Donald Trump put out that truth social there wasn't
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: even a thought. Now was it a thought to Darlene Graham.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe if she calls in, we'll get
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: to ask her that is there something in the back
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: of your mind. When did you first start thinking about it?
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Was it when Donald Trump put out that post? Or
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: was it a conversation you had with the president because
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: he said something about he met with you in the
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Oval office that this idea. Look, I don't want to
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: undermine her campaign, but a lot of people are feeling
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: like she would she has no political experience and she
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: would just be there to be used by the president
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: for his final two years in office. I hate to
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: think of it that way. I'd like to think that
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: she is a supporter of the president and would want
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: to do these types of things. She did get some
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: very cherry committee assignments. We posted those the other day.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: She basically picked up where Lindsey Graham left off, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: it took him a lifetime to get on those committees.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: And now she's inherited that Does that put her in
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: a leadership position? Do the people? Do the other senators
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: look at her like a leader because she's on these committees?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I don't Maybe we should be interviewing senators from other
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: states to find out what their perception is of Darlen Graham.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but again, that was a very good story.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not a huge fan of Joseph Bustos. Is that
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: how you say his last name? But in this one
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I thought he hit it out of the park, but
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: completely blindsided. It seems that the entire part Drew McKissick
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: that they mentioned in here did not expect her to run.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: So there's that. Anyway. Do you have thoughts on Darlene Graham?
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Do you have thoughts on the others? We'll talk maybe
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: a bit later on. I think in the eight o'clock
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: how we're going to rerun the Ralph Norman interview that
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: we did yesterday. We got that and more. This is
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: South Carolina's morning news.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: From the Midlands to the low Country.
• 50:53
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• 50:56
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• 51:01
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• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Now here's Kelly Nash.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: You know, the President wants to reshore drug manufacturing back
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: in America, makes it safer and should drive down costs
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: as well, and part of that plan includes putting tariffs
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: on drug manufacturers. Currently, So coming up just after eight o'clock,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: we're gonna be talking to Roy O'Neil, who's kind of
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: studying this and talking to people about what kind of
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: effect should people expect on their drug prices during this
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: power play. Also, we might talk to Rory a little bit.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I know he has some insights on the AI thing
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: that we were talking about in the last hour that
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: if you missed that segment chat GPT broke out and
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: started hacking another AI system as the startup. Yeah, unbelievable.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: That is one of the craziest stories I think I
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: could have ever imagined. And Rory does have some insights
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: on that, so we'll get a chance to talk to
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: him about that. But also coming up next hour, we
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: got the new polls today. Who's the front runner for
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: the South Carolina Senate seat. I don't think I'm surprised
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: by that, although it is a very close race according
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: to the polls, a lot of undecided, but the individual
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: that's all saying, the individual who's the current front runner
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: according to that one pole. We'll be talking to that individual.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say. Okay, teezer, that's coming up
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Live from the State Capitol.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning US with Kelly Nash and.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Good morning to you. On the phone, we have Rory O'Neil.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Good morning, sir.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: Hey, they're Kelly, good morning, Happy Thursday.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you. We've got two stories that I understand you
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: have some insights on the in a short time to
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: get to it. So the first one blows my mind.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: The chat GPT broke out and hacked another AI system.
• 52:57
  Speaker 8: Yes, essentially, GPT five points Soul is the name of
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: one program that's owned and operated by open Ai.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: They have a second, more capable but still unreleased model.
• 53:09
  Speaker 8: They put the two of them together in what's called
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: a digital sandbox. Essentially, they gave them a task and said,
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: go in the digital sandbox, just go play. You can't
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: hurt anybody in there. Problem is, when the two of
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: them were left to their own devices, they figured out
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: a way out of that sandbox onto the Internet.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: And the first thing they do they.
• 53:26
  Speaker 8: Launch a cyber attack on another company called Hugging Face.
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: So they weren't supposed to break out like that. So
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: this is a bit of an issue.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, wow, this is like everybody's worst fears. The
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: chat on not chat GPT. Artificial intelligence is becoming salient
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that it can. It thinks of itself as a human
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: being and can just do whatever it wants.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: Well, right, that it forced.
• 53:49
  Speaker 8: Itself, you know, it learned how to get out of
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: the sandbox, how to get online, and the first thing
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: it does it goes in attacks in other companies firewalls,
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: which is exactly what it's designed not to do.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: The other story is that the generic drugs that most
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Americans are getting these days are actually made overseas, and
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: you know, the President wants to reshure that and that's
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: a safety issue for one thing, but also probably in
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: the long run would help with pricing. And in the
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: interim to get that to happen, he wants to put
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: big tariffs on those drugs. Is that what we're I mean,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: how's this going to play out?
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: Rory?
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: So the exact details we don't know because this isn't
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: really official policy yet, so we're just going off what
• 54:32
  Speaker 8: the President has said, untruth social, but his idea is
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: start to slap a one tariff on imported generic drugs
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: starting in August of twenty twenty eight.
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: As you said, the idea.
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: Is make the imported drugs so expensive that the drug
• 54:48
  Speaker 8: makers will bring back production of those medications to the
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: US good intentions. Not sure if that's the right way
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: to go, because you know a lot of the components
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: of those medications are actually made in China. So let's
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: say the drug is made in India, it imports the
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: chemicals for that drug, The ingredients are imported from China.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: It's as symbol, turned into a.
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: Pill in India, and then it gets shipped over here.
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: So it's unclear if this is really going to solve
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: that root problem of the fact that China is making
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: a lot of our drugs.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Is there any way for us to just get whatever
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: it is that China's manufacturing and make that here.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: We could, we just have to pay a lot more
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: for it.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Probably, And that's always the rub, isn't it right?
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: And you can get the quality and the assurances and
• 55:37
  Speaker 8: the guarantees of good quality and what we need to
• 55:40
  Speaker 8: have in those medications, or the drug makers say, or
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: we can do this on the cheap. And look, when
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: you and I go down that pharmacy, aisle one's three
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: ninety nine, one's fourteen ninety nine.
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: We're picking three ninety nine because we.
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: Don't know enough about what's the good stuff and what's
• 55:56
  Speaker 8: the bad stuff.
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: I'm reminded of the Toby Keith song he's talking about
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: his dad pays a little bit more for the tag
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: that says made in the USA. I feel like we
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: need to get back to that. If it's made in
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: the USA, you're willing to pay more because you know
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: that it's safer and better for you and it helps
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: the country.
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: It's a great argument to make and help to support
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: that domestic production, you know. But then it gets complicated
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: because some of these drugs are manufacturing in parts of
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: Europe and we have a big trade deal with the EU,
• 56:24
  Speaker 8: and what's that going to look like?
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: And you know it's not necessarily being made.
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: In the poverty conditions of Deli, India, but instead in
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: a nice lab in Salzburg. You know, it's a very
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: different sort of mental picture of how our medications are manufactured.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: You have a great way of phrasing it and putting
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: a mental picture in there. We certainly appreciate that. And
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: if you hear anything else about this AI stuff, if
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: AI allows you to call us, please keep us up
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: to date on that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: I'm afraid they're.
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: Listening right now, Kelly, I gotta tell you absolutely.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Rory O'Neil, thanks for your time. We appreciate you, buddy.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Take care all right, and yeah, you have thoughts on
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: either the AI story or I did know. Like Rory mentioned,
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: it's not until August of twenty twenty eight, which is
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: a lot better than August of twenty twenty six, I imagine.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: So we'll keep our eyes on that again. Proposal from
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. But that would have huge impact for a
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: lot of people, because I think when I look at
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: like how many Americans are currently on some sort of prescription,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: it's like everybody.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially our seniors, and that's a big part
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: of our population here in South Carolina.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, but by the same token, we remember during COVID
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: we were having a big problem getting everything out of China. True,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: the only thing we weren't getting a problem with was
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: getting more of the Wuhan flu. How we got any
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: of the wu Han flu? All right, we'll talk about that,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: and I guess we're getting some talkbacks on what's going
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: on South Carolina Senate race. We're going to try to
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: speak to the front runner of the South Carolina Senate
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: race and more coming up on South Carolina's Morning News.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News with Kelly Nash.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: So Innovative Polls, which is an interactive poll. I ran
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: their poll, I guess Monday, Tuesday of this week, asking
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: if you were to vote right now, who would you
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: want for the South Carolina Senate GOP nominee. This is
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: amongst likely voters getting a big bump from Donald Trump's
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: endorsement is Darlene Graham. And we've been kind of talking
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: about Ms Graham this morning. I guess we have some
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: feedback on the talk back line.
• 58:29
  Speaker 10: Christopher, Good morning, guys. I watched Darlene speak with Sean
• 58:32
  Speaker 10: Hannay the other night and I was quite impressed. I
• 58:35
  Speaker 10: think her heart is in the right place and she
• 58:37
  Speaker 10: wants to carry on Lindsay's legacy. Also, if you've looked
• 58:41
  Speaker 10: at her resume, it's pretty darn good. She was the
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: cushitter of the Blind for I think it said Gosh,
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: I can't remember the years now, but quite some time,
• 58:50
  Speaker 10: and they do a fantastic job.
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: I'm voting for all Right.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: There you go, a Darlene Graham supporter. Hopefully we'll get
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Darling and Graham on the show in the not too
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: distant future. I've been working with her campaign in the meantime.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: Did get a chance yesterday to speak with Ralph Norman,
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: and first thing I asked him was, do you know
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: what Lindsey Graham was talking about on that final night
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: when he spoke with Donald Trump? And Trump says that
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Lindsay had figured out a way to actually pass the
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Save America Act.
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: He was doing it through what we're doing now, the
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: Reconciliation Project, which all that is is a process that
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: the party in power, which is a Republican party. We
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: controlled three branches of government, can put up legislation that
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: would require only in the Senate fifty votes fifty plus
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: one fifty one votes instead of the normal sixty. We're
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: having to do that, and it's with reconciliation. You can't
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: spend any money without all sets, okay, And the reconciliation
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: package we have now doesn't particularly have the all sets,
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: but it get sixty billion dollars for our military, which
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: we've been spending a good bit in Iran, mainly through
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: the air, but it's got a thirteen billion for intelligence.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: On agriculture, our farmers are in trouble, it's got twelve
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: billion for them. A total package of about one hundred
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: and ten hundred and fifteen billion dollars. That is a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: stopgap measure to fund our essential things that are going
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 7: on in this country and namely the military.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Well, we're talking with Congressman Ralph Norman, and you are
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: pretty famous for being, I would say, a fiscal hawk.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: You are a conservative through and through. And so when
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: you're looking at this Reconciliation three point zero, do you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: feel comfortable with passing it in its form?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: I do. And normally, you know, you look at every
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: dollar and you look at every expenditure and make sure
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: that we're on a path to cutting government to reduce
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: in the forty three and in debt. This does not
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 7: do that. But it's in talking with Pete HEX'STUSS team,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: we've got a national priceis on our hands with protecting
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: this country, and Iran has taken up a lot of
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 7: our money. We will get up. The next reconciliation package
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 7: will hopefully get some of this back.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: The Save America Act. A lot of Republicans want a
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: lot of Americans wont it. I shouldn't just say republicans.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: It's like an eighty twenty issue. Tom Tillis keeps making
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: a big deal out of North Carolina that it wouldn't
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: be in place for the midterms, and so that was
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: one of the reasons he was voting against it. Have
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: you talked to this guy at all?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: No, because you're not going to change his mind. I
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: know him and I'm on the airplane with him. But yeah,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: he and Trump are at odds with each other. And
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: it's kind of the massive situation and really the Rand
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: Paul situation. They just do not like the man himself.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: And it's unfortunate because we've got a country to say
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: the president and his speech. He's got proof of voter
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: fromt he's got proof of interference by China and others.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: And you lose your you lose your democracy. You're a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: public if this happens. So I don't understand Tom tillis
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: saying he can't be in place. If he wants it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: in place, it can be.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: You know. It's one of those things where you know,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: the rest of us we're not in DC. We don't
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: we're not part of the making of the sausage. And
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: so some of it they speak in a way that
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: it sounds like it's above our head, but it sounds
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: like what you're saying is most Americans probably understand what's happening,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: and we could implement all this.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, I mean try going to a trying to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: get on an airplane in Charlotte, try going to get
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: get in medicine from a pharmacist. You got to have
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: valid ideas and it's not that hard.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about the olive garden all you
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: can eat pasta pass had more security than our elections
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: last week.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: That's exactly right, and it's it's true. That's a good analogy.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: That's part of the Ralph Norman discussion. We go into
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: a lot of different things, his comments on Darley and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Graham and more. You can get that entire discussion on
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: the National Briefing podcast and you spell that like my
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: name in ash. The National Briefing podcast is on the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: iHeart Radio app, as is the South Carolina Morning News
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: podcast on the iHeartRadio app where if you've missed any
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: part of this show at any time about Christopher, what
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: are we about an hour after the show or.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Even les less than that less and that it'll be
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: posted by nine thirty this morning.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: It's fantastic what you do with it, because it's just streaming.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: It's just boom, one right after another, one segment right
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: after another. It's amazing how you do that. And so
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: we're looking forward to that and your thoughts either on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Ralph Norman, Darling Graham where the Russell Fry people. I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: have not heard from one Russell fryes. We got more
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Mark Lynch supporters, who is described in one poll as
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Mark Lunch than we have for Russell Fry so far.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Speaking of that poll, I know you want to get
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: to those numbers coming up.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we'll do that and more on South Carolina's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Morning News.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: You're listening to South Carolina's More News with Kelly Nash.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: One day, I'd like to talk to like a polster,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: like just how do you think it really works? I'm
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: always fascinated by this innovative communication strategies. Is the people
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: behind this poll that they ran Monday and Tuesday, they
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: said they spoke to seven hundred and eighty eight verified
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Republican primary voters that so that you were in the
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: June ninth primary election and that you're probably going to
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: vote in the August eleventh Republican primary. How do you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: find these people? Because I mean, like if my phone rings,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: and I don't recognize the number. I'm not picking it up.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of it's digital these days. Although I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: don't know did they talk to people or does it
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: say whether it was a digital poll.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: It doesn't say here, and that's why I'm saying I'd
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: be very interested in finding out now, according to their polling.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: And this came, by the way, Kelly, after the Trump
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: endorsement of Dorlean Graham.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, it was Monday and Tuesday of this week. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: mean it ended on the twenty second I think it
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: was or twenty first, July twentieth and twenty first, So yes,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Darlene Graham at that point has Donald Trump's endorsement. Everybody
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: knows it, and she still came in second place. Now,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: I will point out that it's within the margin of error.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Ralph Norman has a two point three percentage lead over Darlene,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: and there's a three and a half percentage point margin
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: of error. So I mean, maybe she's in the lead.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe Ralph just got a little lucky there. I don't know,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: but either way, I think it's safe to say that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: both Darlene and Ralph are neck and neck for first
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: and second at this point. And then it's a I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: don't want to say it's a steep drop off, but
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: it's a significant drop to third with Russell Frye at
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: eleven point seven percent.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: And all the undecided voters that are still out there, a.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Lot of those. And you were making some strong points earlier,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Christopher about just how this worked within the state.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it seems to be almost a regional poll.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: You look at overall undecided, it's twenty six point three
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: percent undecided, So undecide is actually winning that race right now.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Norman pulled better in the upstate, as you
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: might expect, Russell fry pulled better in the Myrtle Beach
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: area as you might expect, Darling Graham pulling well with women,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: but there was a huge gap. Thirty three percent of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: Low Country voters say they haven't made up their minds yet.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Well that's why we're here to help, Christopher. We're here
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: to help you decide.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: So well, I wonder if that's helping someone else who's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: not currently in the race decide someone Ah from that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Low Country year.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: I see what you're doing now. I but I'll also
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: point out that when this poll was done, I don't
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: think that we had had it yet until Tuesday is
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: when I think if I might be you know, my
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: life becomes a blur. So it seems like the weekend
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: happened five minutes ago. Sometimes, so I don't really know
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. What did we already have the endorsement
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: from Nancy Mace of Ralph Norman on Monday?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: I don't I'm trying to remember when she endorsed. It
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: might have been over the weekend. I can't remember.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that it came down like Monday or Tuesday.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: And so that probably didn't factor him because she picked
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: up like six percent of the vote herself in that poll.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: So does Nancy Mace from the Low Country endorsing Ralph Norman?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Does that help him? Well, it can't hurt him, It
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: certainly would help him. And I just saw that Jim
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Dementt just came out and endorsed Ralph Norman. So I
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: just texted Jim Hopefully we're going to get him on
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: the show maybe tomorrow the next day, talk about his
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: support of Ralph Norman. Why, why, why pick? Why even
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: step into this? Why be a part of it? I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: don't know. We'll find out from him coming up hopefully,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: but this this is going to be crazy again for
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: the next It's all over in just a couple of weeks.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to be fast and you've got to
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: influence these undecided in a hurry. By the way, I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: just saw my first cam pain ad for Darlene Graham.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Really, where was that on social media?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, but it came from the Security is Strength superpack
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: that Lindsey Graham informed. So they're they're spending for her
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: in a hurry.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you're you're trying to make a candidate.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I mean literally just create a candidate. This was never
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: a candidate, never has been a candidate, and as far
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: as we know, never aspired to be a candidate until
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: sometime was it like a week ago? Sometime last week
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: is when it just hit her, you know what, maybe
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: I should be a senator. So and there was a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: couple other people you're talking about those yesterday, three or
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: four people that we had never heard of, just like
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I think I should be a senator. And they paid
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: the fee in there in the race as well. So
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: we're keeping a very close watch on that. And we
• 1:08:49
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  Speaker 1: Now Kelly Nash.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: I've never been able to capture the James Clyburn speech pattern.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: My friend Jonathan Rush does a pretty good James Cliburn,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: but I know it's kind of like ah, he does
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: something like that all the time and I can't do it.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: But anyway, James Cliburn, if I could imitate him, imagine
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: him using this, you know, as he says this, ah
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: saw picture. That concerned me about the Abdul l sayid
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: rally because there's not a single person there that looks
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: like me that tells me all I need to know.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: Abdul l said is the Democrat socialist running for the
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Michigan Senate seat and is basically in a dead heat
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: right now with another Democrat, or I should say a Democrat.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: There is a distinct difference between Democrats and Democrat socialists,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: and one of those things is the prioritization of gaza
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: and another prioritiz on LGBTQ rights. And James Clyburn is
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: making the point this is a warning for the Democrat
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: party you are losing the black vote, and we saw
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: a significant drop in Black voters for Democrat candidates in
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, including the black female Kamala Harris, who
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: did win the black vote but was significantly less than
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: what Joe Biden had received. They are moving away from
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: the policies that Americans seem to like. Abdul lsied again,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: the litmus test for him is Gaza. This is a
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: clip of him.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: This is a moral ruarshock test.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: If you can't identify the systematic murder of tens of
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: thousands of kids as a genocide, and then you want
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: to say that you're a fighter for human rights and dignity,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: that's just hypocrisy. So I just think that if you
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 5: can't call the most heinous violation of human rights what
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: it is, it's hard for me to believe that you're
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 5: going to go and fight the Trump administration, or fight
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: the pharma CEOs, or fight the health insurance CEOs who
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: are making my life unlivable.
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  Speaker 3: So he's saying that James Clyburn is failing the moral test. Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how James is. Again, this is probably why
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  Speaker 3: James Cliburn is very upset about the Democrat Socialist So.
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  Speaker 4: This is an example, a perfect example of how the
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  Speaker 4: party is imploding. And you've heard from a number of establishments,
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  Speaker 4: establishment people within the Democrat Party. James Clyburn, on the
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  Speaker 4: other hand, not only an establishment member but also as
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  Speaker 4: a black man, can talk much more eloquently on the
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  Speaker 4: idea of civil rights versus rights of all these other
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  Speaker 4: fringe groups that the socialist Democrats seem to be touting.
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting that even amongst the young blacks, meaning people
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  Speaker 3: i'll say twenty five and under, you don't see them
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  Speaker 3: in large swath at the aoc rallies. You see basically
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  Speaker 3: liberal white women. That is the core of the Democrat
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  Speaker 3: socialist movement is liberal white women who want to tell
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  Speaker 3: minority groups what's best for them. James Cliburn is saying
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  Speaker 3: what's best for us is to be a part of America.
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  Speaker 3: We're not victims per se. Although James Cliburn did grow
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  Speaker 3: up in an era where in fact, there were two
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  Speaker 3: different rules for people of color, minorities and whites in
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina back in the nineteen fifties. I wasn't here
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  Speaker 3: for that. Christopher wasn't here for that. We grew up
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  Speaker 3: in an era in the gen X area that we
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  Speaker 3: kind of saw everybody the same and we had people
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  Speaker 3: of all different colors as our friends growing up. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure you did too, Christopher. Plenty of Latinos where I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: grew up. I grew up more in a Latin dominant
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  Speaker 3: culture in the Hartford area. But you know of blacks, Latins,
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of people, but we didn't make distinctions. Then again,
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  Speaker 3: in twenty ten ish, that's when Barack Obama really started
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  Speaker 3: pushing this let's separate ourselves by.
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  Speaker 4: Race again, the great racial divide.
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  Speaker 3: And every poll you look at in this country shows
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  Speaker 3: that since that moment in twenty ten, race relations have
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  Speaker 3: gotten worse in this country, not better, and that people
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  Speaker 3: identify themselves as victims more than ever. But Abdul Lsieed
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  Speaker 3: and the Democrat Socialist movement is now trying to hijack
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  Speaker 3: the pain that the minority groups went through in the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: pre nineteen sixties civil rights era and say that's our problem, right,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: that is what we're suffering with. If we're LGBTQ, that
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: is what we're suffering with. If we're trans, that is
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: what we're suffering with, if we're anything other than a
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  Speaker 3: white male. We are being oppressed in this country right now.
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  Speaker 3: James Clyburn and many black voters are recognizing crap. They're
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: trying to steal our thunder exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, they're trying to turn these fringe groups into
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  Speaker 4: a major factor in the upcoming political races. I'm and
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  Speaker 4: energizing their voters in the process. They are energized, There's
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  Speaker 4: no doubt about it. When you see these rallies that
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  Speaker 4: they have. There are thousands of liberal white women and
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  Speaker 4: again maybe genetic males who identify as women.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine being a man and having testosterone. If
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  Speaker 3: you have testosterone in your body and you hear these
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  Speaker 3: Democrat socialists, you should just cringe all day. There's no
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  Speaker 3: possible way that a man is supporting the Democrat socialists
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  Speaker 3: of America. No man. The biggest non man out there
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: is Grant Platner. I want to show my dominance over somebody.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Please break into my house so I can show my dominance.
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  Speaker 3: Not in a gay way, but just okay, Graham, okay,
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  Speaker 3: down there, oyster farmer. Anyway that I'm appreciative of James
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  Speaker 3: Clyburn becoming back as a leading voice. I hope his
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  Speaker 3: voice is as powerful in twenty twenty six as it
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  Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty. I didn't like what he was
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: doing in twenty twenty with it. I didn't want James.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: I didn't want Joe Biden to be the nominee because
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: I was afraid what would happen happen, which is that
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: most Americans would look at Joe Biden as just some
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: sort of moderate as opposed to what he really was.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what we got. But James Clyburn was a
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  Speaker 3: big part of that, and now he's trying to be
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: a big part of stopping the Democrat socialists. So I
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  Speaker 3: salute him in that effort. I wish him all the best.
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  Speaker 3: We have to take a quick break here, Yes, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we'll take a quick break and be back with more.
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  Speaker 3: It's South Carolina's Morning News.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News on one O three
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  Speaker 2: point five FM and five sixty AM WVOC, Columbia and
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  Speaker 2: ninety four to three WSC Charleston, Now Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 3: Top five states for four closures according to ABC News,
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  Speaker 3: Florida is the worst, then New Jersey, Delaware, Nevada, and
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  Speaker 3: rounding out the top five, South Carolina. I was interested
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  Speaker 3: to look at the areas in South Carolina where it
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  Speaker 3: is the worst, and it's the upstate right now. The
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  Speaker 3: zip codes starting in two nine six, they had eighty
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  Speaker 3: five hundred foreclosures up there, But then not too far
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  Speaker 3: behind would be the low Country the zip codes where's
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  Speaker 3: this one? Starting with the two nine fours, you had
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  Speaker 3: seven and ninety nine foreclosures there, and then just to
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  Speaker 3: your north up in Lake Ori, and that the PD
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: area zip codes starting with two nine five, you had
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  Speaker 3: another fifty eight hundred foreclosures. So if you're looking for
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  Speaker 3: some I don't know, beachfront property, maybe maybe maybe there's
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: some deals to be had, but that's not a that's
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: not something that we should be excited about. But there are.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: There's always going to be opportunities, so you know, I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: always try to look at a glass half full. When
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: the market allows for things like this, people can buy.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: This is a good time apparently to buy. If you're
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: looking for foreclosures, there's a whole bunch of them in
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  Speaker 3: the Upstate and the low Country. Not so many in
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  Speaker 3: the Midlands. The Midlands is pretty well protected, it seems.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, by the way, just outside of Atlanta, horrific
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: on foreclosures right now. They got a big problem down there, But.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised Florida leads that list.
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  Speaker 3: Kelly.
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  Speaker 4: If you've driven through Florida lately, you can see entire
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: neighborhoods where you know, somebody started a McMansion really and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: then ran out of money, and you know the house
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: is half built, and you know, I'm sure and they've
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  Speaker 4: moved on.
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  Speaker 3: The Bible even says you know, who would begin a
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  Speaker 3: project without counting the costs. I guess we now know
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: the people in Florida. So anyway, if you wanted more
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: on that story or others, we might get some more
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: of that later on in the podcasts. But in the meantime,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: we're going to take a quick break on South Carolina's
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  Speaker 3: morning news from.
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  Speaker 1: The Midlands to the low Country.
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  Speaker 2: This is South Carolina's Morning News on one O three
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  Speaker 2: point five FM at five sixty am WVOC and ninety
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  Speaker 2: four to three WSC.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's Kelly Nash.
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  Speaker 3: As we get ready to wrap up today's show, I
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  Speaker 3: can tell you that Scentcom says it redirected nine ships
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: and disabled another as they continue to blockade Iran's ports.
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  Speaker 3: We can also tell you that we have had a
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: bunch of attacks on the overnight. Both Kuwait and Jordan
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: confirmed new Iranian attacks on Thursday. The IRGC says it
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  Speaker 3: is going to continue to try to hit US bases
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  Speaker 3: in both countries, and Marco Rubio says this morning, they
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: are going to pay a very heavy price for the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: things that they're doing. They're already paying a heavy price,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: but it's going to be much worse. He says that
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: the president's policy is ahead for an eye. I like
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: that every day you say an eye. It's not an
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: eye for an eye, it's a head for an eye.
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  Speaker 3: I I'm sure that the Iranian war is nowhere near
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  Speaker 3: ending at this point, although I am waiting to see
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  Speaker 3: a shift, Christopher, and that shift being what somehow we
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: need to start attacking the IRGC directly. I say, arm.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: I'll say it again, Arm the people on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Let the Iranians fight. They want to fight, they just
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: don't have any weapons. Get the weapons to the Iranians
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  Speaker 3: and they will take out the IRGC.
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  Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the IRGC just continues to delay and delay and delay. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: and who pays for it? The Iranian people?
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  Speaker 3: Well, and we do with the gas pump true, we
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: got that going for us as well, but we'll be
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  Speaker 3: back tomorrow morning after six. Have a great day with
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  Speaker 3: South Carolina's morning news