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LSU Regional Recap | NCAA Baseball Talk - Off the Bench, June 3, 2025 · Off The Bench

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Speaker 4: Don't want to do it.
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Speaker 2: Morning, and my goodness, thank.
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Speaker 3: God they go a lot better to come in here today.
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Speaker 2: Flynn, Jake, we're all here.
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Speaker 4: How was dreadnet about half of two one?
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Speaker 7: I'm like, man, there's nothing worsewhere.
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Speaker 2: It looked bad.
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Speaker 3: We just saw Ole Miss lose to Murray State, and
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I'm like, oh, I want to make fun of them
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so bad, but I can't until we win, and then
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it's too late to make fun of them. But I'm
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glad that LSU was victorious, because it would have been
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a pretty tough show to come in here after losing
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to Little Rock, who fought like hell, credit to them,
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tip of the cap, respect. That was a team that
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did like everything they possibly could to get a victory
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and go to a super regional.
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Speaker 2: But LSU finds a way and wins ten to six.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 8: Look, I was watching this game and you know, admittedly,
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you guys know hadn't followed much of the baseball until
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this beautiful job. But I've been locked in and I
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was sitting there watching the game, you know, yelling at
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the kids to come watch it with me, all this stuff,
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and they're losing, and I'm like, oh my gosh, Day two,
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Like I've already I'm already talked out for the week.
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Speaker 4: I've done, I've done one three hour show.
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Speaker 8: We're going into Tuesday like, oh lordy, Like, I don't
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think I'm ready for like a depressed LSU just got
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eliminated by Little Rock show it would have been and look,
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that's that is one of the more difficult this job
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is when something like that happens and you're like, oh
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my god, that's.
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Speaker 2: Going to bring the vibe now, it's gonna be just.
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Speaker 5: A more season. Yeah, yeah, and then.
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Speaker 2: You're gone fishing.
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Speaker 8: And I know we'll get into like a lot of
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the details of the game and talk about it.
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Speaker 4: But man, what a what a turnaround?
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Speaker 8: And what did I told Taylor when I walked in
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this morning, What did difference just one dude can make
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on a team's morale energy levels?
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Speaker 4: Like bringing the Jews? The team looked dead, they looked asleep.
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Speaker 8: They were making some decent plays here and there, they
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had the home run.
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Speaker 4: Early, but like there was just no juice. I didn't
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see any Jews playing.
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Speaker 8: And then this little dude, this freshman, runs out on
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the mound and super hyperactive pitching motion, wind up and
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just talking and celebrating, and all of a sudden, you
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just like I could feel it in my house watching
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the game. I was like, oh my gosh, what a
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breath of fresh air this dude is. And then everyone
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just feeds off it. It happens all the time. You
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see it sometimes when like a backup QB comes in
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a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I guess, well, you just see it in sports all
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the time.
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Speaker 8: The difference one dude with a lot of energy, confidence
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talking that Ish can do to bring up. Everybody just
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looked like stale. Man, they looked stale. They looked dead,
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They looked tired of sleep, you know what I mean.
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And Little Rock didn't know. They didn't They looked like
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the scrappy little team that was there with nothing to lose,
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just looked like they were like holding on.
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Speaker 4: They wanted up. They wanted Little Rock to to lose
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the game.
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Speaker 2: Basically.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then once they figured out, oh, they're not
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going they're not going to do that, we gotta do something.
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Speaker 5: That's interfering to relax. He needed to like just take.
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Speaker 3: You were fast, you were athletic, you're getting to those balls,
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you're getting great jumps, and you didn't need to jump.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're not getting on top ten.
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Speaker 3: Exactly what you told last night. I was like, man,
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he doesn't need to jump, Like that's are great players.
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I was like, yeah, they are, but he's trying to
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get on Sports Center time.
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Speaker 6: You can't get you can't get on it if you jump.
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Speaker 4: I get it.
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Speaker 8: I remember doing that as a kid, like you're playing
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catch or you're you're in practice or something, and like,
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you know, you can get to this pop up, but
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I'm gonna wait a couple of seconds before I start
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my run a little.
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Speaker 4: Bit because I wanted to.
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Speaker 8: I want to get a little dive, man, I want
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to get a little backhand side action.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, good for you.
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Speaker 7: It was I feel like you could kind of see
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it start to turn for the Tigers a little bit.
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And I kind of saw it too, where it was like, Okay,
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you're facing you know, a midweek team, you know what
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I mean, Like for sure, there's a point where he
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had like two straight walks. I think he walked Koreel
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with like four straight balls, and you're like, Okay, this
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is a picture that you've seen before. You know, like
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you've seen this guy in the midweek. You've seen this team,
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and they were literally the only team in the tournament
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that had a losing record. So I just feel like
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Sunday was just such that wasn't the team that LSU
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is and the beginning of the game yesterday wasn't either,
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and they just had they needed Case and Evans to
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come in, fire them up and get it together. It
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was Yeah, that game had me about to go into
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cardiac orus.
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get really diving into the game, the thing for me
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is what.
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Speaker 2: We talked about yesterday. And look, I.
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Speaker 3: Gave Scowe and his credit because he did nail that
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Zach Cowen was going to start that game.
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Speaker 2: That was not the decision that we thought in this room.
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Speaker 3: We thought it was going to be Caseon Evans and
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then Zach Cowen would come into the game because of
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all the reasons we talked about. I mean, Zach Cowen
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is somebody that has not started a baseball game this year.
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Speaker 2: He now last year, Yeah, he was great.
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Speaker 3: He had big moments and the stage being big is
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not new to him, like he's done that many times
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in his career. But we talked about it like when
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you haven't done something in a long time, a full
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year of baseball and you haven't gone out there and
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been the guy to throw the first pitch man. Baseball
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is so mental and there's so many little things that
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can go wrong, and you knew immediately that Zach Cowen
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didn't have his best stuff, and if we're being honest
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with ourselves, he hasn't had his best stuff in a
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long time, and so like that's why here in this
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room we're like, Okay, well it's gonna be Case and
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Evans and then you're going to try to get to
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Zach Cowen. And luckily for LSU, they didn't get too
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far behind before Evans could come in and do what
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he did.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
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Speaker 8: I think about the decision again, I'm kind of, you know,
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a little bit late to the party on learning all
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these names and the pedigrees and their history and what
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they've done. But I kind of understand the decision from
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just a mental aspect. You're playing your fourth game, your
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fourth game of four days. You really this first time
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all season you've done that, so like you have to learn.
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You're you're learning about your bullpen. You're learning about your
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pitchers as you go in this game for elimination game
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against a team you're supposed to be all the pressure
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on the world's on you. There's no pressure on the
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guys in the other jersey. So I kind of understand,
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from like a middle standpoint, you going with the pitcher
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that has a little bit more experience, Like you would
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think that he could step on the mound and and
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have the better chance.
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Speaker 6: I guess.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I've been not being too bit. You could
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make that argument.
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Speaker 2: You could make that argument for sure.
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Speaker 3: It was just him not starting a game and over
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a year and your first start, and sometimes that happens
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in regionals and super regionals. It's like, man, this guy's
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pitch fifteen innings all year, had started a game. But
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this was somebody that's been in a lot of big moments.
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But they were all like in the seventh and eighth
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and ninth inning, and so it was a decision.
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Speaker 2: And again you could split hairs.
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Speaker 3: I would have, you know, you know, assumed Kayatean Evans
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would have gotten the start. Zach Cowan gets the ball,
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and again you blinked and it was five to one,
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and luckily you had.
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Speaker 8: Look he come Maybe Jays like playing chess and we're
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all playing checkers in our analysis of this. Maybe he
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knows that Cason was going to come off the bench
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and and be able to come off the bench better
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than anybody else.
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Speaker 2: Could I think this is quick.
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Speaker 5: Too, straight strikeouts? Why he should Maybe he's a.
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Speaker 4: Better reliever than he has a starter.
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Speaker 9: You know, Cowen got credit for like all five runs
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because they were on base when when Evans came in,
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But it was it was three nothing. I mean it
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was it was three to one at that point. He
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had given up three runs and he pulled him. But look,
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Jay knows more about baseball than all of us in
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this room combined.
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Speaker 6: There's no question about it.
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Speaker 9: He I think this was trying to be the smartest
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guy in the room, trying to change it up. Like
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I get that he was a starter at Wafford. He
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was a really good starter. I understand that.
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 6: I don't care.
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Speaker 9: You started a guy in a must win game that
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hasn't started all year period.
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Speaker 4: That's it.
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Speaker 9: And I think if if Jay's honest about it, you
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went asked him, he would say, yep, don't it it
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move by me.
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Speaker 6: I screwed that up. I almost cost my team.
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Speaker 4: The game that far.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that he go that far.
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Speaker 3: I think he would just say, for the reasons that
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Matt just laid out, here's why I went with him
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instead of the true freshman. And I had two pitchers
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that I knew, these two guys are going to either
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get us to the Supers or we're gonna go home
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with these two guys, and he went with a guy
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with a more experience. I'm saying, like, for me, I
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would have started case In Evans just because he at
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least has started those games.
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Speaker 7: He started against Tennessee, like he's yeah, he started against
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Tennessee like that was the biggest regular season series that
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we had in the box. And to me, it's like
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he's been getting touched up and we all knew this.
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I Cason Evans went out there and threw eight straight strikeouts.
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Speaker 5: I mean what they should.
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Speaker 6: It was the graphic last weight.
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Speaker 4: It was like.
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Speaker 9: First like seven appearances he gave up reruns. His last
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six appearances, he had given up eight runs, so like
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you you could kind of see it. And that was
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before the game even started. It was like, here's your
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starting pitcher, here's the e r A, here's what he's
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done recently.
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Speaker 3: Did anybody get PTSD when Anthony Iroston's going in there
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and he's warming up and gates.
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Speaker 6: Jump, Yeah I did.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was giving me like war flash.
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Speaker 6: But actually I didn't hate that.
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Speaker 4: No, I didn't hear.
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Speaker 3: As soon as soon as Cason Evans was doing what
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he was doing, I said, oh, Anthony Irosen's closing this game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's nobody else that.
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Speaker 3: I'm trusting, right, now and Kate can't come in because
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he pitched on Saturday. Anthony Ironson, Now, he went seven innings,
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but it was with ease right and on Friday, so
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he's gonna be available to come back in then as
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soon as like two minutes later the TV cuts, he's
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going to the bullpen.
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Speaker 2: That was the only guy that could close that game.
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Speaker 3: But it's just because Gates Jump and who didn't pitch
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bad when he came in against North Carolina, but he
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did get the loss last year.
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Speaker 6: It's like, oh boy, was it you about one when
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Jump came in last year?
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Speaker 9: I think it was the exact same. I think it
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was the exact same You had a one run lead.
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Oh yeah, so I was actually about to stop y'all
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throw some stats out from last year. But you know what,
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it was amazing about sports. It's like, you're you could
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be a great coach. He can be a great player.
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But at the end of the day, it comes down
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to good fortune, good preparation, things going your way a
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little bit, and then just for a good coach preparing them.
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Speaker 8: But then the players got to do that, got to
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do what they do. So Jay makes this decision, and
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you know, we all all agree that. You know, we
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wouldn't have made the same decision. Okay, but guess what
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he only asked to answer like one question at the
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press conference and then never think about that decision again.
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We talk about this for one segment and then we
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move on because they won the game, instead of us
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talking about it until next January.
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Speaker 4: Right, that would have been brutal.
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Speaker 5: This is gonna hurt for like a while.
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Speaker 3: If we would have lost, we would have opened the
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show playing Simon and Garfunkel.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hello darkness, smile.
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Speaker 7: Right, it would have been like, not just for us,
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but like in the country, a really like huge upset.
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Speaker 3: Would have been one of the biggest in the last
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fifteen year.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, to her point, like last year you lost to
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North Carolina like rock, Yeah, this is little Rock. And
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then me and you and Matt were talking about it
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before the show, like two things are wild this weekend.
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First nine SEC teams got eliminated in regionals.
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Speaker 4: That is wild.
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Speaker 9: Also, the teams that won Murray State won Wright State one.
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I mean this was kind of the year, like if
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this was when that happened to you at the box,
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this was the year you kind of felt that the
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second ending that's I.
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Speaker 3: Was telling me the next over and off campus, we
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had some people like that were chiming in, like you
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know that maybe aren't the biggest college baseball fans are like, hey,
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is this like a sixteen beating a one in basketball?
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Speaker 2: Was like, no, it's not that.
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Speaker 3: It's not that you had four do it on Friday.
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How many sixteens have beaten ones one? Like when Virginia
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went down, So that's happened once. Ever, this happened four
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times on Friday, so it's not that's not the same.
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And you had some baseball teams I mean, utsa, it's
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being Texas now three times and knocked him out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's just what baseball.
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Speaker 4: Is, crazy kryptonite.
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Speaker 10: Yep.
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Speaker 8: Well, if if it had gone different, what would just
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move on to football?
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Speaker 4: Seven too?
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Speaker 3: We just like like two months, no, man, I mean
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today would been like just.
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Speaker 2: Post mortem, just letter rip letter.
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Speaker 6: I mean we went out there believing who's coming back.
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Speaker 8: That's here's my question. Let's start thinking about the head
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coach for Little Rock. Where's he coaching next year?
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Speaker 2: Oh he'll get a job. Oh yeah, there's no doubt
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he'll get He'll get it.
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Speaker 8: I mean he I mean his his interviews were great. Yeah,
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he he came off really good.
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Speaker 5: On Virginia on the coverage. Or did they get somebody after.
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Speaker 2: No, No, don't.
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Speaker 3: I think O'Connor obviously left and went to Mississippi State.
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Speaker 2: I don't that's that's gonna be one of those jobs.
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Speaker 5: It's like, I don't love a coaching case.
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Speaker 3: It's not certainly like even though oh it's perfect, even
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though UVA has won national championship, Like that's a place that,
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over the last five years is not able to keep
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up with the ones that want to keep up the
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SEC schools, the other ACC schools that care more about
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college baseball. Uh, your Oregon State, your Oregons. But it's
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still a really good job. And so yeah, UVA is
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going to get a good coach. I just don't know
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if it's going to be like, You're not going to
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steal somebody from the SEC. It's going to be somebody
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that's either young and has earned the right to see
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if he can step up to that or maybe a
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lateral move.
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Speaker 4: So little Rock coach.
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 8: I'm a big fan of the guy. Take a little
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scrappy bunch, look the tiger in the eye, m punch
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the face few dumbs.
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Speaker 3: That that happened as well, So look a ton to
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get to obviously, like we've mentioned it already, like Ole
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Miss lost to Murray State, we got we gotta make
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sure that we highlight that for sure, Ben Mince, I
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hope you're listening, you bum you.
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Speaker 4: Love them the trash?
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, T Bob probably letting him know just what
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he thinks in Chicago, So don't worry, Ben Mins is
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getting his. When we come back, though, let's break it
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all down. What happened across the country. Ethan Fry somebody
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we got to talk about, like he might deserve his
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own segment today. We've got all that coming back your
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while she was doing that.
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Speaker 9: Actually has the funniest reaction to that. It's I think
19:38
he's the first one to crack.
19:39
Speaker 3: There's just some songs that you can't do too much.
19:43
She did right, far too much. She went seven miles
19:47
past two.
19:48
Speaker 9: They were like, hey, can you do this? Like four
19:49
out of ten? She's like twelve, got it?
19:51
Speaker 8: And if you're gonna do it different, you got to
19:53
be known for being like a different type.
19:54
Speaker 3: Of artist already, Like I've seen you know James Taylor,
19:57
Yeah has done the national anthe.
20:00
Speaker 8: There you're known of like having great pipes, Yeah, just
20:04
like have great pipe.
20:05
Speaker 2: Great.
20:06
Speaker 4: There's some moments in that song where you can show
20:08
it off.
20:08
Speaker 9: It's right, Yeah, try to do it like sultry, like
20:15
the names Relum is just not the song for that.
20:17
Speaker 4: What is Dale?
20:18
Speaker 8: Tell Brennan like, I can't even look at you right now.
20:20
You sound like a combination of Fergie and Jesus.
20:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a compliment.
20:25
Speaker 4: It was a huge compliment.
20:27
Speaker 2: Compliment, but not when you're doing.
20:29
Speaker 8: Extra sing it Francis Scott Key, Yeah right, roade a
20:33
bangor sing it.
20:35
Speaker 4: Yeah.
20:36
Speaker 3: But coming back to it, that that song, that's a
20:40
good one.
20:41
Speaker 2: That was a good one.
20:42
Speaker 4: All right.
20:43
Speaker 3: We got to talk about kind of the offense for
20:46
LSU Baseball, what it was looking like it was going
20:49
to be and what it ended up being. We can't
20:53
say enough about Ethan Fry in what he did four
20:56
for four, four RBIs two walks, was all over the
21:01
base path yesterday last night. He has now become the guy.
21:06
And if y'all have somebody different, please tell me. I
21:10
don't trust any other player more than I trust him
21:13
when he's in the batter's box right now. And for
21:16
as much as we want to like wonder and speculate
21:19
maybe why Zach Cowan started the game on the mound
21:23
that decision, which again you can certainly find a case
21:26
and make a case for it, I get it. How
21:30
about the lineup changes, Jay needs a big outa boy
21:34
on that. Because he moves Ethan Fry to the two hole,
21:38
Stephn milem to the three hole, you move Bear Jones
21:41
back to the sixth hole and all of that worked.
21:46
If Ethan Fry is not in the two hole last night,
21:49
you do not win that baseball game.
21:52
Speaker 2: You don't win.
21:53
Speaker 3: You can't come in here, you can't call the show,
21:56
you can't hit me up on social media and give
21:59
me a path for LSU to win that game. Ethan
22:02
Fry is not hitting two behind Kurio.
22:06
Speaker 4: Yeah, that dude.
22:07
Speaker 8: I mean, he just stepped up to the plate and
22:10
it just looked and felt different when he was in the.
22:12
Speaker 2: Bat at a large game.
22:13
Speaker 8: He's a large person. He just hits the hell out
22:17
of the ball. Y'all can speak more on the lineup
22:22
changes and the ins and outs and the details about it,
22:25
but what I noticed watching the game yesterday is from
22:30
one through nine, Lis shoes lineup to me in the
22:34
second half of the game made the biggest adjustment and
22:38
one thing that made the difference in the game, which
22:40
was adjusting to a tight, tight strike zone. They made
22:45
him throw it right over the middle.
22:47
Speaker 4: Because that.
22:49
Speaker 8: I couldn't believe how tight the strike zone was. I
22:51
was like, looked like a strike to me. Both teams
22:53
it was. It was both and I feel like I
22:56
saw that most of the games and sing, and I
22:59
was like, that's strike right, absolutely, I would say the
23:04
same thing. Even one of the pictures for Little Rock
23:07
told that as well, when he was getting pulled. Yeah,
23:10
he did a couple of a couple other words, he
23:12
said a couple of Little Rock didn't make as discipline
23:16
of an adjustment. To me, they were swinging at more
23:19
outside of the strikes, and there was only a couple
23:21
of the bats where for L.
23:23
Speaker 2: S U that I saw, Yeah, that I was like,
23:25
I don't swing at it, don't swing at it.
23:26
Speaker 3: But Little Rock was doing it more. Bear had some
23:29
of those before he did. But like I mean, I
23:33
loved it. Like the pictureld be up out how many.
23:38
Speaker 6: Like how many did.
23:40
Speaker 4: Like how many did did they the Little Rock throw?
23:44
How many times.
23:45
Speaker 5: We had or six?
23:50
Speaker 2: Eight? They had eight? L s U had five?
23:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, to me, that was just the difference in the game,
23:56
And I felt like most of those walks were coming
23:58
in the back half of the game.
23:59
Speaker 3: To your point, it's actually it's a good take that
24:02
LSU did have the better takes. They figured out the
24:05
zone quicker than Little Rock did. And once you figure
24:08
it out as a hitter, like some of these pitches,
24:11
you might if you know that the umpire is, you know,
24:15
expanded his zone, you're gonna say, well, I gotta protect. Yeah,
24:18
I mean that's that's at every level of baseball for sure,
24:21
every level. I mean eight U kid pitch baseball, right,
24:25
we tell the kids, like, as soon as he calls
24:27
that one that's in the other batter's box, Hey, he's
24:30
calling that, you gotta protect.
24:32
Speaker 4: It looked like to me that there was.
24:35
Speaker 8: There was a couple of times, many times probably that
24:38
batters for LSU were one hundred percent taking on two
24:41
and zho and sometimes yeah sometimes ono, right, they were
24:45
just one hundred percent taken make him throw it.
24:48
Speaker 3: Definitely three to one. There was a ton a lot,
24:50
so you can tell, okay, this was straight take.
24:52
Speaker 5: It was take and do not because there was who
24:56
was it?
24:56
Speaker 2: I think it was Braswell had one.
24:58
Speaker 5: That right down.
25:01
Speaker 2: The middle, I mean eighty five miles or three to one. Yeah,
25:05
he took it.
25:05
Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, I think it was Braswell that I
25:08
was thinking over.
25:09
Speaker 3: Oh I knew, I know how you watch baseball. It
25:11
was Braswell, Yes, without question it was. But what about
25:18
Hernandez too?
25:19
Speaker 11: Bro?
25:19
Speaker 3: Two homers, I mean and the first one how quickly
25:24
he pulled.
25:24
Speaker 2: His hands inside of that baseball.
25:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, And that was just like that was the
25:30
moment more than any you had in the game, like
25:33
you had like it you and you had to have
25:35
it in that moment because you're wondering, is LSU going
25:39
to tie this thing up?
25:40
Speaker 2: Because if they tie it up, they'll win it.
25:42
Speaker 3: But they got to tie it up right now, And
25:46
I thought there was no chance that baseball was staying
25:49
fair just because of how far inside he had to
25:52
bring his hands.
25:53
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, there's just no chance. But he knew it.
25:56
Speaker 3: See, we didn't get that angle on the first TV
25:58
on the broadcast of him looking at the dugout and celebrating.
26:01
You know, it's trying to track the ball, so we
26:04
didn't know it. I thought for sure it was going foul.
26:06
But that was the moment like once you tied it up,
26:09
you were going to win it. And it sounds weird,
26:11
but it's like, are you going to be able to
26:13
tie it up at any point?
26:14
Speaker 4: No?
26:14
Speaker 9: And then you know they jump at seven five because
26:17
he had another home run and then bottom of the eight, dude,
26:21
like they they cut it seven six, and like l
26:23
you might be out of gas, like what happened to
26:25
Byans and doesn't have it? Then they get three more
26:27
in the ninth, you get a home run by Bear,
26:29
you get a home run by Fry. It's like, like
26:31
to your point, that one home run by by Louis
26:34
Hernandez like changed everything.
26:37
Speaker 7: I yes, because it's like, are you going to tie
26:39
it up? Because in the third we left the bases
26:42
loaded again, and.
26:43
Speaker 5: That was about to like that was right? Was it?
26:48
Speaker 2: Yeah?
26:49
Speaker 7: I like, oh my gosh, I about threw my remote
26:53
out the TV whenever I saw them leave the bases loat.
26:55
Speaker 2: I said some sweet nothings to my TV.
26:57
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like again.
27:00
Speaker 7: And then Ethan Fry hits that double I think in
27:03
the fourth the next the next inning, and.
27:05
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, we got something. We're working with something.
27:08
Speaker 11: And then I'm like, just you know what I was
27:10
thinking about when Ethan walks up with the basis loaded
27:13
of the fourth was the show yesterday where you said
27:17
if the bases are loaded, I don't even need you
27:18
to hit a home run.
27:19
Speaker 4: In the fourth inning with the basis he walked up
27:22
the bat. I was like, boll it hits you a
27:24
ding wrong.
27:28
Speaker 6: He's gonna love this right.
27:31
Speaker 3: It's perfect right in the gap. You knew it as
27:35
soon as it left the bat, and you knew who
27:37
was on the basis for you, it's like, yeah, curious.
27:43
Speaker 2: With that question.
27:44
Speaker 9: Stanfield's curios area got that like fry for how big
27:50
he is.
27:51
Speaker 2: Whe he was.
27:54
Speaker 5: Like that inside the park home run had like his.
27:57
Speaker 3: Like when you look at his perfect game profile, his
28:00
position is like catch your third left field right deep
28:06
on built different, I mean actually.
28:07
Speaker 9: Like literally build mostly like a player. I mean, you know,
28:13
pretty good duel threat QB A rose Pine.
28:15
Speaker 3: There was no doubt that you know somebody that looks
28:18
like that that lives in rose Pine, small town.
28:20
Speaker 2: He probably played whatever he.
28:22
Speaker 9: Wanted, but he was probably really good at basketball. I
28:24
bet he was like what I bet he was like
28:26
the three on the basketball.
28:27
Speaker 6: He's probably really good.
28:28
Speaker 7: There's can you imagine having to tackle or like try
28:31
to sack and fry?
28:34
Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, I've seen some large tumbans out there, but no,
28:39
not in uh probably like what's rose Pine?
28:41
Speaker 9: One A, one A two two At most, I don't
28:44
even know where rose Pine is?
28:46
Speaker 2: Did you just get country when you said that?
28:48
Speaker 3: I don't know, I never heard you speak with a
28:50
country accident.
28:51
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
28:54
Speaker 5: I had roast pine. I don't know where, that's no doubt.
28:57
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we are long for a break.
29:00
Speaker 3: We'll go ahead and take that, wouldn't we come back
29:03
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back again, O TV one, O four five, ESPN,
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Beton Rouge and now are gonna go to the phone lines.
30:45
Chris Phillips se c unfiltered joins us now to break
30:48
it all down. What happened on the Diamond over the weekend, Chris,
30:52
always a pleasure, sir.
30:54
Speaker 2: Hope you're doing.
30:54
Speaker 10: Well, Jacob going home, man, I'm doing well. Appreciate you
30:58
have me on. I'm looking at this as kind of
30:59
like my redemption visit with you on the show. So
31:02
after after last week I can confirm in case you
31:06
were wondering it is a lot easier to wake up
31:09
and show and go for a radio appearance after you're
31:12
not out in the town until about three thirty or
31:15
four in the morning. So we got listen. We're learning
31:18
as we go, making a dustments, kind of like the
31:20
LSU baseball team. So yeah, really good to be here, man,
31:23
appreciate it.
31:24
Speaker 3: Look, as I told you that day, that is not
31:28
a big deal at all. As long as I've been
31:31
doing a morning show, I know that happens. And the
31:33
fact that I know you were out on Broadway having
31:36
a good time, and that's the reason that makes it
31:39
all worth this, bet right.
31:40
Speaker 2: I mean if it had just been like a normal like.
31:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I went to bed at ten and I
31:44
thought I set my alarm, like okay, But at least
31:47
you got it in like that's all that matters. Like
31:49
you had a night one day probably are going to
31:52
remember for a little bit, and it makes it.
31:53
Speaker 10: All worth it, exactly. If anybody can understand, man, it's
31:58
it's you. So I really a brother. But yeah, last night,
32:02
I would say this, the only thing maybe more dramatic
32:05
than a night out on Broadway is this LSU team
32:08
at times. But glad to be talking about him going
32:11
to the Supers and what a weekend. Man, it was
32:13
a crazy, crazy weekend on the diamond across the league.
32:16
Speaker 3: I mean it certainly was. And we'll start with LSU
32:19
and you and I were talking. I'm like, man, and
32:21
you were gonna come on regardless, which we appreciate.
32:23
Speaker 2: I was like, man, it's gonna be a whole lot cooler.
32:25
Speaker 3: If Lshue pulls this off, if the ViBe's gonna be
32:28
completely different.
32:29
Speaker 2: And they do.
32:29
Speaker 3: And look, Chris, there was some coaching decisions and you
32:32
know this LSU roster that Jay had to make, and
32:35
he rolls Zach Cowen out there and not Case and
32:37
Evans to start the game. And Zach Cowen goes out
32:41
there and kind of what it's been as of late,
32:43
doesn't have his best stuff, gets touched up a little bit,
32:47
can't find the strike zone, and Jay Johnson quickly goes
32:50
to Cason Evans, who was as dominant as you'll see.
32:54
Speaker 10: Yeah, listen, I would have started Case and Evans. And
32:56
I'm not Jay Johnson. I'm not smarter than Jay Johnson.
32:59
I don't know this ball club better than he does,
33:01
but I'd have to thank moving forward, going into a
33:05
super regional weekend if they do get to a game three,
33:08
and certainly going into Omaha. I mean, I feel like
33:11
Cason's your third best arm. I don't think it's really
33:14
that much of a debate anymore. I mean, you know,
33:17
he has the length of a starter. You saw him
33:19
go one hundred pitches last night. So again, tin Tight's
33:23
twenty twenty and Cowen's also really really good, and you know,
33:26
I think he's obviously going to be a huge piece
33:28
from the other stretch. But yeah, the bottom line is this,
33:31
I mean, Cason Evans up with stuff a legend, you know,
33:33
in a moment like that and a situation like that
33:36
where you needed a guy to come in and hold
33:39
the line and give the offense in time to you know,
33:42
to get get it together and put something together. And
33:45
you know, you got to start with Ethan Frye offensively,
33:47
and he's just he's seeing a beach ball right now.
33:50
Really carried the offense to the first felt like what
33:53
six or seven innings, and then Luisa Nandez has the
33:56
two home runs and then Bear Jones, you know, Bear
33:58
finally wakes up from iber and that was his first
34:01
what extra base hits since May seventeenth to get to
34:04
South Carolina in the last regular season series. So I mean,
34:08
we all know they're gonna need him to get going.
34:10
But you know, I thought it was smart by Jay
34:12
to move him down in the lineup, I believe, the
34:14
sixth hole and you know, put him in a different
34:16
position and just kind of change some things up. But yeah,
34:19
all in on. I mean, listen, I felt good about
34:20
LSU going into last night. I mean, I never thought
34:23
they were gonna lose, but you know, I thought Old
34:25
Miss was gonna win too. And then you look across
34:27
what happened over the weekend and you see him down
34:30
five to one, and I was, I was a little nervous,
34:33
but really just a gritty, gussy performance by that team.
34:37
And yeah, listen, Jay Johnson knows what he's doing. But yeah,
34:40
I would imagine the next time they're in that situation,
34:44
With all due respect to the other guys and that
34:46
rotation and that bullpen, I gotta think case and Evans
34:49
is going to be your Game three guy. You just
34:51
you have to think so yeah, yeah, you gotta.
34:53
Speaker 8: Think so yeah, yeah, Chris, what's up? Man's Matt Flann here?
34:57
Uh second on the job. So it's great to get
34:59
connected with you man. So you're you're all things SEC man,
35:02
and so like that's what I really want to hit on.
35:04
So I've kind of been watching here in all year
35:08
how dominant SEC baseball is from from top to bottom. Really,
35:12
so how do you kind of how do you break
35:15
down how do you talk about you know, all week
35:18
really only four set SEC teams making it past regionals
35:22
to super Regionals, and not only not only only four
35:25
teams making it, but a lot of teams losing to
35:27
some teams, small.
35:28
Speaker 2: Teams Murray, Murray State utsa.
35:32
Speaker 8: Almost lsu with I mean, the the the emergence of
35:35
these little teams beating these big boy SEC teams that.
35:39
Speaker 4: Everybody was just that had came in with all the accolades.
35:44
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, Matt, first thing I'll say you is it's
35:46
the pleasure chat with you. I remember you one of
35:47
the first quarterbacks I remember watching as a young SEC fan,
35:51
So really, uh really good at talk with you and
35:53
hear from you. But no, I mean listen yet, it
35:55
was it was a rough weekend for the league. I
35:58
don't think there's really any other way to put it.
36:00
And I want to keep that in perspective when I
36:02
say it, because I don't think it's as bad as
36:05
we may feel like it is. I was looking back
36:07
at last year, guys, when the SEC got four teams
36:11
in Omaha. You know, only five made the Super Regional Round.
36:14
I mean, this year is four, so like, we're not
36:16
that far off. Unfortunately, we're only guaranteed a max or
36:20
I say guarantee, we're only possible a maximum of three
36:24
SEC teams in Omaha because obviously Arkansas and Tennessee play
36:28
each other. So but I think when you look at
36:30
the way that it happened, the number one overall national
36:33
seed loses, They've become the first ever not even to
36:36
make it to their regional final. That being in Vandy.
36:39
You know Texas who won the league. Obviously they lose
36:42
the UTSA. You know Old Miss gets outed by four
36:46
seed Maurice State. You know you got Florida in Alabama
36:50
that both traveled to mid majors. Granted again they had
36:54
to go on the road, but you felt pretty good
36:56
about them. They both get outed as well, So you know,
37:00
I don't want to overreact, but I don't think it's
37:03
an overreaction to say that it was a bad weekend
37:05
for the conference, I think, really truly. I mean, you
37:07
get thirteen teams in the field, only four of those
37:11
teams advanced guys. You have eight hosts, Yeah, and only
37:14
only four hosts make it out alive. It's just there's
37:18
a lot of parody in the game of baseball. But
37:20
no doubt it was a it was a little bit
37:23
of a tough look this weekend for the SEC. And
37:25
I mean, listen, the four that made it, I think
37:27
are four of the best teams, and they were four
37:29
of the best teams in the conference all year. But
37:32
you know, certainly some of those top dogs that you expected.
37:35
And I didn't even mention Georgia who got walked off
37:37
Oklaoma State and lost in their home field too. So yeah,
37:40
it was a tough weekend across the board. But that's
37:43
one of the reasons we love baseball. It's just truly unpredictable.
37:47
Speaker 3: Chris, you had like the thing that always happens to
37:49
me anytime, like I'll have a take, I'll have this.
37:51
I'm like, they're not they're yet, they're not ready. They're
37:54
you know, not fraudulent, but close to fraudulent. And you
37:57
had that kind of with Vandy Baseball and then they
37:59
go and then win the SEC tournament.
38:01
Speaker 2: You had to do like the hall. Okay I was wrong.
38:03
Speaker 3: They actually you were right. You had it right the
38:06
whole time. They just kind of got hot in Hoover.
38:09
And I'll be honest with you, Chris, like we can't
38:12
look at Hoover as anything that we can use I
38:16
think as like this major like talking point, because like
38:20
I had so many old miss fans like in my dms,
38:23
like when they beat LSU and I'm just like, guys,
38:25
like you realize how LSU played that compared to how
38:27
you played it, But hey, I got to give you credit,
38:30
like you actually had Van d penned. It's just everybody
38:32
wanted to throw hate at you because they won the
38:34
SEC title in Hoover.
38:37
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I just felt like Jacobaca, they won
38:39
that SEC tournament title and they were the number one
38:41
overall national seed, and you know, I I was pretty
38:44
pretty vocal about it earlier in the season. I didn't
38:47
say obviously fired Tim Korban, but I just kind of
38:49
felt like, hey, there's a certain style they want to play,
38:52
and it's an old school mentality, and it's just you know,
38:55
in today's game, it's just hard to win at an
38:59
elite level that way. And you know, kudos to them,
39:02
I mean the way they finished up and you know,
39:04
again to be the number one overall national seed, I
39:06
wanted to make sure. I mean, I'm a big believer. Listen,
39:09
you we all and I know you guys are too.
39:11
You listen, you make your predictions and you give your takes,
39:13
but more than happy to tip the cap when it's deserving.
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And I mean they deserved it. But yeah, unfortunately, and
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I was told by some bandy folks that hey, you know,
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kudos to you for doing that, but let's wait and
39:25
make sure that that wasn't premature. And unfortunately, their their
39:30
work to night here for realizing it was premature. So
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you know, it's yeah, there's some really there's some really
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sour feelings today on the West end in Nashville as
39:41
a whole, because this is a Vanderbilt program that you know,
39:44
they they're kind of like an LSU. From the standpoint,
39:47
success is in judge off being a number one overall
39:49
national seed or winning the SEC tournament. It's about at
39:52
minimum making supers, going to Omaha's and competing for national
39:56
championships and that's the game of baseball. It's just like,
39:58
that's these top tier programs. That's what you judge your
40:00
season off of. So yeah, then you mentioned I mean
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Jacob Igreuey Hoover is just its own thing. It's the
40:05
totally separate you know, there is no I don't know
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that you can really like include it in the equation
40:12
of what you're gonna do or not doing the postseas
40:14
I mean, think about it. The two teams that were
40:16
in the championship in the SEC tournament, they both got
40:19
knocked out in their own reasional So what good did
40:21
it really do to play that deep into the tournament anyways,
40:24
So you know, there's just no perfect rhyme or reason
40:27
with it. And you know, again, I think when you
40:29
look at the teams that advance the supers like LSU,
40:32
Arkansas and Auburn, those were you could argue those were
40:35
the top three teams in the league. And then Tennessee,
40:38
you know, they were very inconsistent up and now, but
40:40
we know that they're capable of being one of those
40:43
top three or four teams in the league. From a
40:45
talent perspective, from a pedigree perspective head coach Tony Vytello. So,
40:49
you know, the teams that made it very well. I
40:52
think all four could win a national championship, but I
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think it's like, is it the bigger storyline the teams
40:58
that didn't make it. That's what we're allalking about today.
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Speaker 8: Chris, I'm gonna ask a question, and this I'm not
41:05
like I hadn't been the biggest baseball guy. Our listeners
41:08
know that. I'm letting you know that before I asked
41:11
this question because I don't know kind of the landscape
41:14
of the SEC coaching from top to bottom right now.
41:18
But in most sports, if you've got a lot of expectations,
41:23
you have a difficult and disappointed ending. There's some coach
41:28
of seats that start to get pretty hot. Do you
41:30
see any anything like that happening based on weekend results?
41:36
Speaker 10: No, you know, I'm trying to think across the landscape.
41:40
Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 10: I think the one that was going to happen already
41:42
did with Chris Lomonez. And I think they've made a
41:45
great hire over at Mississippi State with with Brian O'Connor.
41:49
Just from a pedigree perspective, a guy that's wont a
41:51
national championship, a guy that understand what it takes to
41:54
win the current landscape, and he's going to get all
41:56
the backing the needs. I think State's going to be
41:58
back up sooner rather than later. But no, outside of that,
42:02
I mean there's pressure on Mike Bianco, no doubt at
42:06
Old Miss, but I mean he's he's a legend. I
42:09
just I don't think you fire that guy after this
42:11
kind of season. I mean, it's it's so tough, right
42:14
because there are expectations and you hold your program to
42:16
a standard, but it's also baseball, and I just I
42:20
don't know that you can really fire a guy because
42:22
you got upset in a regional you know, I don't
42:27
think so, to be honest with you, I'm trying to
42:28
think the Lamis was the very obvious one going into
42:32
this season that you knew he was. He was on
42:34
the hot seat. I think everybody else, even with the losses,
42:38
like Bandy's not firing Corbyn, Jim Schlosnageles in his first
42:41
year at Texas, Wes Johnson just got an extension at Georgia.
42:46
He's not going anywhere now. I think, for the most part,
42:49
everybody else should be safe.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 2: We appreciate time. Look forward to our next one.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Jacob Man, you all the best.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate it, thanks Chris.
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