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The Fallout From An INSANE Month In The Sports Card Hobby!! · Sports Card Clubhouse

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In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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the land participating in the hobby.
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There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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together to talk cards. Oh boy, Mike.
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The hobby drama is not leaving us.
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It is continuing. It is accelerating.
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It is like a car going 1000 miles an hour and they are
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pushing on the accelerator. What are we going to do?
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Happy Thanksgiving to you, Greg. I mean, back up.
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Happy Thanksgiving. And to our viewers, slash
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listeners. Yes, when this post's
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Thanksgiving will be behind us. We're recording it early because
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we're choosing to spend our normal recording day with our
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families for Thanksgiving. Yeah, probably napping at that
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time. Oh well, the first nap.
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So what time does? What time does your family eat
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Thanksgiving dinner? Do you want the short version or
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the long version of this answer? The short version?
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Depends on on whose house it's at, but usually early so.
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Early like noon or. 1 noon or one?
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Yeah, we do. Like 2:00 PM-ish.
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We haven't had a normal Thanksgiving in about 7 years
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because Thanksgiving weekend is a the West Coast club soccer
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tournament. So we have been in the San Diego
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area for the last like 7 years for Thanksgiving.
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So we haven't really had a Thanksgiving in a very long
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time. So I kind of forget, but that's
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what I remember. I love San Diego.
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Oh, it's the past. It is.
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It is phenomenal. Yeah, I've been twice.
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I went in 2008 when the economy was in tatters and San Diego was
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just not, not in a good spot. And then I won again in 2014.
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Maybe, yeah. Yeah, I've been to San Diego a
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lot like many years, twice in a year.
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There's that's the big facility for the West Coast of the United
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States soccer tournaments. But Lucy is now in college and
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so we don't go to that tournament anymore.
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So this is a quote UN quote normal Thanksgiving.
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So that's where we're at. So back to my head on collision
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that we are currently on track for.
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It feels like everyday something else comes up.
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It feels like I'm getting tired of talking about hobby drama.
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Are you getting tired of talking about hobby drama?
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I'm really not I, I know that I, I see the comments from people
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saying let's move on from shield bidding and I totally get that.
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But there's so much hobby drama that I, I enjoy it until I don't
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the, the specific things like I, I hate to say I enjoy it, but
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I'm, I'm definitely interested in it in a like a cable news,
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everything is a train wreck kind of way.
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I. Jerry Springer kind of way.
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Yeah, it is entertainment. It's it's definitely affecting
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all of us. Some of this effects all of us
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in very negative ways. But in terms of just straight up
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entertainment, it is wildly entertaining.
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Yeah, yeah. There's there is some
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entertainment. So I made AI made a little list
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because I'm trying to figure out if if the sky is is truly
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falling. So I made a list of some recent
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events that have led towards where we are now.
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So I want to run through my list and then I want to hear what I'm
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forgetting on the list. So we've got Patrick Ryan who's
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one of the biggest financial collectors slash investors in
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the industry in terms of. Being out in public, we know
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that there are others. There, Yeah, Yeah.
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Well said. Well said.
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Good of the most public figures who is heavily purchasing on the
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high end and making acquisitions on the high end.
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His whole issue, he's currently taking a break, I guess from
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social media after he posted for all of us his cell phone number.
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Then we've got Doctor Beckett, one of the Mount Rushmore people
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in the hobby. He has been under a lot of
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scrutiny, changing some people's thoughts and that situation.
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So we've got the whole shill bidding thing, we've got auction
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houses. Where I think that what happened
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is the conversations they had opened up a can of worms about
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shill bidding, opened up a can of worms about auction houses.
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Then people started actually looking at what the auction
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houses do and don't allow and I think it was kind of eye opening
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for some people. We have the top eBay seller of
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sports cards left eBay to open his own auction house which was
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a complete train wreck and is apparently now shut down and
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forever. And that is 1.
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So we have the top eBay seller is who knows what his future
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looks like. We've got all time high prices
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in many cases of a lot of cards, specifically modern, but a lot
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of stuff. We've got PSA who bought their
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number one competitor, the number 2 grader in SGC seems to
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be slowly, maybe not even slowly, but strangling them to
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death. And we've got potential economic
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issues with layoffs from big companies and a lot of question
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marks in the global and U.S. economy.
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Other than that, everything's going great.
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Yeah. That, that seems like a pretty
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good summary of the like the really, really recent trends
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that we've seen. I'm sure if we were to take a
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broader look, we we could come up with a much bigger list.
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But this is like November, yeah. That's that's like this month.
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Yeah. PS As turn around times are
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going up. Prices went out.
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Prices are, yeah, for sure. There's, there's so much out
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there. There's so much to talk about.
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And when I started my YouTube channel, I never imagined I
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didn't know about all this stuff.
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I don't even think this stuff was happening there.
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There weren't as many people in the hobby at the time.
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There wasn't as much money at the time.
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And the the monopolization of the hobby didn't exist.
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Like PSA wasn't a clear monopoly.
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Fanatics wasn't a clear monopoly at the time.
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And that's all happened just in the last four years.
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Yeah, yeah, there's, I mean, there's so much consolidation
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and, and where there wasn't consolidation, the expansion of
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like eBay where you know, there's not eBay PSA collectors.
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You guys know when I say PSAI mean collectors virtually
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interchangeably, but the, the vault, the buy your car draw on
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eBay, have it go straight to PSA, have it go straight up for
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sale through PSA where they take care of it for you.
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Like PSA is so involved in now you can buy from PSA, you grade
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from PSA, you sell through PSA fanatics, you can they produce
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the cards, you buy the cards from them, you can sell the
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cards through them. And this just huge, these two
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huge conglomerates are now controlling so much of the
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hobby. But then you even look at most
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of the things I just listed and it they're the, they're like
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everything that they don't control.
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I mean, it's like the the shield building, the auction houses,
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the the Probstein stuff. I mean, if I was new to this
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hobby right now, if I got into this hobby like January 1st of
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2025, I would be going what? This is the wild.
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West, right? Yeah, it's pretty wild if you
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are not in it on a daily basis. I know a lot of people will
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watch my Sunday video. Am I clearing the bases video
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where I just kind of cover at a quick glance everything that
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that's happened in the last week and I just I can't fathom not
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knowing all this stuff until Sunday morning and like just
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ignoring everything and not see any of it and then Sunday
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morning catching up on all of it all at once.
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It's there's so much stuff that happens every.
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Week. Well, you're very dialed in with
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Twitter or X or whatever the heck we want to call it this
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week. They you are dialed into that
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and a lot of like the new sources and info sources and,
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and major players in the hobby do a lot of their posting there.
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And I think a lot of us, myself included, I mean, I have an
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account, but I don't really use the account.
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So I don't know some of this stuff until people who are
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following that like talk about it.
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I'm like, oh Dang, like so I am one of those people.
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I have a one. What's that?
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You have a life. I don't know about that.
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Let's not get carried away. But I am one of these people who
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like your video on Sunday is how I do find out a lot about a lot
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of the stuff. Unless somebody has, you know,
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made a short video about it during the week and and
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sometimes the bigger stories they have.
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I mean, it, it is the is the accelerating toward a brick
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wall. How does this, how does this
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play out? Like, OK, let's not to play, you
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know, Miss Cleo and predict the future, but let's play Miss Cleo
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like in six months. OK, Let me ask you some quick
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hits in six months. Does SGC exist as a brand?
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You know, I have consistently said yes all along that that P
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that collectors will never kill off the SGC brand.
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Neo though, and you've made some good points too.
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But Neo had a really good answer for this that kind of made me
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think could they maybe and and maybe it was actually a comment
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on that video too. I'm still going to say SGC will
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exist six months from now, yes. OK and and I didn't even I need
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to mention this, but the news about Com C maybe being on the
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brink of bankruptcy or or non existence, I mean I didn't even
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include that. And Com C is probably the main
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place to buy and sell cards not called eBay.
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And that's that's up in the air. Will Com C in the next 6 months
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be purchased by eBay or Fanatics or PSA?
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That's a great question. If you had asked me if Comm C
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will exist, I will say absolutely they will exist in
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six months. Will they be purchased?
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I think yes. So eBay is already a an investor
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in Comm C and so I could see them increasing their investment
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perhaps substantially. I'm not sure that it's public
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how much of Comm C they've invested, how much they own of
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Comm CI. I've gathered that it's not a
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huge number, but I could see them increasing that investment.
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Will fanatics have their own grading company in six months?
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Wow, Six months. No.
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OK. Do you think so?
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No, I, I mean, I, I was asking the questions, but if you're
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going to ask them back, I, I feel like they're the
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opportunity for somebody to come in and become a major player in
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the grading industry that is currently not, has never been
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more open than it is right now. There is a gaping hole in the
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grading industry 'cause there is there are people who do not like
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PSA, They like them even less now that they've been doing what
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they're doing with SGC. There are a lot of people who
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think CGC is good but more for modern and non sport.
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Tag has gone mostly the Pokémon route.
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So there are a lot of people where there is there is an
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opening for anything and Beckett hasn't even tried to capture
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that. They have invested no money into
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because they have no money but but they're not even trying to
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capitalize. I mean, I'll say this.
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I've literally had multiple people reach out to me like that
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are fairly serious that have some money and connections to
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money. Say, what do you think it would
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cost to buy Beckett gravy? Literally.
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Hundreds of millions of dollars. Oh, no way, No way.
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Because when Doctor Beckett got his buyout, it was not that much
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and they were in a much better position then.
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But that was 2008. Think about what has happened to
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the economy in the last 17 years and how much companies have
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grown. So the company I worked for at
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that time in 2008 is now 10 times the size they were in
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2008. Companies have grown
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dramatically. And remember, the dollar is far
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more valuable than it was back then.
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So $1000, let's just say $100 million in 2008 is I don't know
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how many hundreds of millions of dollars now, but it's way more.
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Yeah. I mean terms of the deal, I'm
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just looking at an article from January 2025.
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It says terms of the deal were not disclosed, although we saw
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one unconfirmed report that the that put the value at north of
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20 million. The value of the entire company
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in 2008? That doesn't seem right.
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I'll read the first paragraph of this article again.
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I don't know, but this is what the article says.
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beckettpublicationsbeckett.com and Beckett Grading Services
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have been sold to a Prize Media LLC and renamed Beckett Media
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LP. Terms of the deal were not
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disclosed, although we saw one unconfirmed report that put the
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value at north of 20 million. OK, well, collectivist not not
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Festivus, but collectivist is the.
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Newest Festivus is coming up. That's right.
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They collectivist owns them now and they just invested like a
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year ago or they promised an investment.
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I want to say it was $200 million.
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Yeah, you look that up. I OK.
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So back to the question though, as you're looking this up, the
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question was will fanatics have a grading company I2?
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$150 million investment in the last roughly year and so if they
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have a $250 million investment, the company has to be worth
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hundreds of million. $250 million investment in Beckett.
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Where's that money gone? That that's the question
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because. The magazine still sort of
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exists. The database of information kind
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of exists. But nothing works very well
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anymore. Well, that's my point.
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I mean, if it's worth, if they invested $250 million, they need
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to get some of their money back because.
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I don't know if they actually I, I know they pledged a $250
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million investment. I don't know if they actually
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did it. I mean, I, I, I don't, I, I
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don't, I don't even know what to say.
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It's. Crazy.
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Now is the time, the opportunity is.
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So it's such a low hanging fruit that if, if fanatics isn't
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considering it, then they're never going to consider it.
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They're just never going to consider it.
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And I don't know why they wouldn't consider it.
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The depth of the pockets that are available for fanatics to
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put into the gaping hole, the biggest hole in all of the the
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the industry right now. It's not a producer of cards.
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It's a competitor of PSAI. Mean we all know, you know,
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we've all taken econ one O 1 and the invisible hand will control
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the market. And what happens is when one
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company gets fat and happy, somebody else starts to come in
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and balance it out. That time is now, like now.
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Beckett just announced, well, though I guess they're group
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submitters, announced that Beckett is no longer taking
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group submissions. They're putting a pause on them
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at least, and maybe this is a precursor to an acquisition.
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I think it would be really interesting and in a very bad
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way. By the way, it would be very
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interesting in a bad way if fanatics were to acquire a
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grader, start grading their own cards and put them in repacks.
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Well, that is that is OK. I agree that there would be some
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dangers in that series of steps, but step one is acquire A grader
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and and and as far as me or make your own.
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It feels to me that the easiest route would be Beckett.
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But then I mean, didn't we hear that PSA was setting up a new
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headquarters like in the same town as Beckett?
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Like like on the same block. It's like on the same street or
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something. It's like it's.
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In the same building I think. Well, that's SGC in PSA before
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they picked SGC into the broom closet a la Mike Petty.
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Saying that, I mean, it is is just such a golden opportunity
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right now. Or somebody with deep pockets.
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Let's do it. I've got $17.00.
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How much do you have? Well, let me look in my wallet.
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I mean, Mike, I've got hold on. Oh, oh, oh, Mike, I've got $100
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bill. I've got you.
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Obviously it was just payday. How many?
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How many pirate cards will that buy?
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It depends, is it a common or is it a captain?
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260 bucks I have available. We have $277 between us we could
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buy, I mean, Beckett, I think, yeah.
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OK. So you said no though.
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You said no, there will not be Fanatics will not have a grading
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company in six months, but you said SGC, the brand will exist
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and what what was my other question?
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I don't even remember. I don't even.
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Where are we? Podcast.
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It's gone. Yeah, it's gone.
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OK, will Probe Steam be selling on eBay again?
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So I've heard that he is announcing we're recording this
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rate around the time he's supposed to be making his
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announcement that he, the snipe is dead forever and.
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It was alive for like, I don't know, five days.
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I mean, it was a really, it was bad.
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And that he's going back to eBay now, if I'm eBay, and I talked
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about this with Neo, if I'm eBay, I'm like, hey, I've got
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the leverage now we're going. To eBay I go.
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Right. You're going to get higher fees.
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Where else you going to go? What are you going to do?
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You're going to get higher fees. And in fact, if I'm eBay, I'm
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probably like, no, we don't want you back.
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The stuff that we've seen out of Snipe looks so shady.
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No matter what, it looks so shady.
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And if I'm eBay, I'm like, I don't want to be involved in it
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now, correct? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I,
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I thought I heard Rob Varys and maybe it was a Dustin interview.
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I can't remember, but I thought I heard Rob Varys say that they
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went, they were going over primarily from eBay to Fanatics
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and Fanatics was taking a long time to get the infrastructure
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in place. And because of that, they had
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less stuff for sale than they would have, which has created a
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loss. And Fanatics has been writing
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them checks for the lost income as a result of it taking so
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long. I if, if I'm Probstein, instead
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of going back with my tail between my legs over to eBay,
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I'm probably calling up Fanatics and going how far out of you
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guys I'll come over. But why would fanatics want him?
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Why would any company want him after what has happened?
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Because he. Sells tons of stuff.
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But DC Sports can do that. There are other 4 sharp corners
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can do that. They can fill that gap and
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probst him. With these allegations that have
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come out, I wouldn't want to get into bed with him.
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I mean, we saw companies still doing business with backyard
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breaks. I mean, if that doesn't tell you
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that companies will do whatever it takes, that brings in a buck.
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So companies are doing partnerships with backyard
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breaks. They're worse in my well, I
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don't know, I'll get sued if I say what I actually think.
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I I would think that some of them would be open to bringing
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on Probsteam. That's a fairpoint about
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Backyard Breaks, that's sure. But I think that Backyard Breaks
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is always going to have their fans and I don't know that there
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is a fan of a consignor. Like does Probstein have fans?
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Does DC Sports have fans like a Backyard Brakes has?
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I don't think so. Does I mean this?
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There's a whole generation they're.
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Going to do case studies in college on this whole Probstein,
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the last six months of of the Probstein company.
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I mean, it is going to be a case study of, I mean, why, why did
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they completely close the door on eBay?
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Like at least keep the door open with a slower trickle of stuff.
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So you always have that in case something happens.
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I mean, there were so many mistakes that went down over
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this whole thing. It, it is, it is unbelievable
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that intelligent people are are coming up with went down this
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route and it, I mean, I've never seen an implosion like this.
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Do they ever recover? I don't think so.
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Could you, if they're if they're back on eBay, could you trust
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them with your cards? Well, I didn't trust them with
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my cards to begin with, but. Why not?
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Why? I mean, I, I have friends who
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have gone on, gone to consigners, OK, I have friends
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who have gone to consigners to sell their stuff through eBay.
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Several friends do that. And they do it because they
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don't have to pinch pennies and they can just go, this is easy.
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I don't want to deal with it. I don't want to mail it.
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I don't want to, you know, get out the wrapping tape and stuff
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and I'm just going to bang, send it off and then get my money.
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I totally understand that I'm cheap.
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Like my hobby dollars, each hobby dollar is like super
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valuable for me. So if I go, man, I could net $32
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or I could net $25. I am that cheap because I want
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those $7.00 for my hobby budget. So I have always thought it was
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curious how many people use consigners like.
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But again, I don't understand why people pay Uber eats or
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DoorDash. Like you're paying three times
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what it cost to get your Chipotle burrito because you
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don't want to get off the couch. Like I just don't work that way.
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So I guess I shouldn't say it's that I didn't trust them to
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begin with. It's that I never even
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considered them to begin with. So I'm the wrong guy to ask.
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So it's not a trust thing. I I need to correct myself.
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It's AI don't have that kind of income that I want being spent
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on that. So I think there's a.
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There's a big difference between your comparisons here.
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One of them, Chipotle. First of all, delicious.
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I love Chipotle. Very good day, welcome a
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sponsorship from them anytime. Yes I would love to have
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Chipotle right now but when you are ordering from Gordash, which
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I almost never do because I am, I feel the same way as you.
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It's why would I spend an extra 15 or $20.00 for take out
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because I have to pay the fee the the driver and the tip when
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I have food in my house. If I can't go out and we're
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going to talk about why here in a moment, but if I can't go out
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for some reason to pick up take out, I'm just going to make food
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in my house. There's no way I'm going to once
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I'm like, if I have company and we're like, hey, we should get
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something to eat instead of going out.
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I will very, very rarely order in and it's anyway.
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But my time has tremendous value to me and I'm always considering
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the value of my time. And I hate shipping cards.
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I hate packaging them and shipping them like one or two at
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a time. I would much rather use a
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consignor. So you and I strongly disagree
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here. I would rather ship like I just
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shipped 170 ish cards to come see many of them.
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Like 80 of them were slabs I think because I can list them on
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there. I'm not trying to profit, but I
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I do want to maximize my dollars, but instead of listing
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them on eBay and just hoping that they sell and then shipping
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each one one at a time to various people, that is a that's
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a time suck. I can ship all of them in one
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box to the Consignor Comp C in this case, and then let them
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deal with the hassle of of listing them and shipping them
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and doing everything right and not worrying about customer
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feedback and all that stuff because my time is extremely
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valuable to me. Yeah, I don't value my time.
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I don't, I don't have a lot of respect for my own time.
29:05
I I, I had a conversation. So I had Chris Hoge on the
29:10
channel last week and before we started recording, he goes and
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you put a lot of content and, and you edit it.
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You have edited stuff and it's like produced and stuff.
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It's not just like, you know, flip on the camera And it's
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like, do you, does someone do your editing for you?
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And I'm like, no. And he goes, dude, you must
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spend a crazy amount of time. I go, yeah.
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And and I need, I need to be more respectful of myself.
29:41
I'm not I, I abuse my time. I do, I, I want to, some of what
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you're saying I want to rub off on me because I don't do enough
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of that. My my, my mother-in-law.
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OK. My mother-in-law used to own
30:02
outright 6 houses, 5 rentals plus her own house.
30:09
She sold the five houses because she didn't want to deal with it
30:11
anymore. And I don't know what she does
30:15
with I think her money is just like sitting probably in her
30:18
savings account. And this woman recite, she
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reuses Ziploc bags. Mike, I go to her house and I
30:29
will be there for Thanksgiving and and they will put the
30:33
plastic utensils, you know, the disposable, the cheap kind like
30:37
the Kirkland from Costco ones. They put them in the dishwasher,
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but you reuse, you reuse plastic forks.
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What are we doing? And she she has plenty of money.
30:51
But I guess some of us are just wired to be insane.
30:58
Don't nobody go and tell my mother that I'm talking about
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her on on this this podcast, but she has paper plates, used paper
31:06
plates around her kitchen because she will reuse them.
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There might be two or three of them and she has spoons.
31:12
She'll use a spoon and then she'll set it down on the edge
31:15
of the sink and then reuse it. If she gets, if she gets a
31:20
plastic fork from a restaurant, she'll take it.
31:23
She gets, oh, this is the best one.
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She will order an Italian sandwich.
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Is that, is that a thing out in California?
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Italian sandwich. Yeah, like salami, Pepperoni.
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Sure. Mozzarella.
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Yeah, she'll get an Italian sandwich.
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She doesn't like oil on her Italian sandwich, so she'll ask
31:37
them to put it on the side and then she will take that side of
31:41
oil and dump it into her oil container for another time.
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I mean, that's next level, dude. That's that is that is next
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level. I got to say I respect that.
31:56
I mean, my level of being cheap ends at I will ask for hot sauce
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from Taco Bell, the little packets, even when I don't want
32:06
them because then I will use them when I'm making Taco meat.
32:10
Like that's about as far as I will go.
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But using the oil and marrying it into your oil jug at home,
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that's legit, dude. That is legit.
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Yeah, I always joke, and she's 75.
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She's born in 1950. And I always joke that she was.
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She grew up during the Depression because that's the
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way she acts. Right.
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Yeah, My dad was born in 1950. Yeah, I mean, obviously she's 20
32:36
something years too late to have been a depression kid, but she
32:39
acts like her parents were depression kids.
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Right. And if you're raised that way,
32:45
then it definitely rubs off. I don't even know what we're
32:49
talking about anymore. I, I know that how we got here,
32:53
who knows, but I'm, I am like, if, if the hobby were a person,
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right? It would be it would be if the
33:08
hobby was a person, they would be staying overnight in the
33:12
hospital with severe A-fib. Wow.
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All love, nothing but love there.
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I, I don't, I don't really even know what that means, but.
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You know what that means. I know.
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What you are, I know what that means.
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I know where it's going for sure.
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What I'm saying is it's been healthier than it is at the
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moment. And I I love this hobby.
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Like I don't even people don't like people at work will go.
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I heard you had a YouTube channel and I'll go.
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Yeah. And they'll go like, what's your
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YouTube channel about? And I go, it's just this hobby I
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do. And they're like, what is it?
33:58
And I go, it's like baseball cards.
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And they're like baseball cards. And I'm like, yeah.
34:06
And but I can't even explain. Like I lay awake at night
34:10
thinking about this stuff. I don't know why I do.
34:14
I don't know why I I fly across the country to go into an ice
34:20
rink in Strongsville, OH. Strongsville, OH who goes to
34:26
Strongsville, OH? I will fly to Strongsville, OH
34:30
to spend 3 days at a card show because I love this stuff.
34:37
So when I see things like this list of, of shrapnel that, that
34:48
the hobby is currently like trying to recover from it, it
34:54
affects me and, and I don't like talking about it.
34:57
I want to move on. I do.
34:59
But at times I'm like, I, I sometimes just need to talk
35:04
about it 'cause it's like my therapy of, I mean, we just got
35:08
hit by a hand grenade and then we just had a leg blow off and
35:12
then we just, I mean, it's wild what November was like.
35:17
I can't imagine it going worse. Wait until December.
35:22
You just, you just reminded me that almost 20 years ago, I had
35:26
a boss. I, I went to, I drove to Boston
35:29
with a friend and Boston's about a 2 1/2 hour drive and we went
35:34
to a fantasy Football Conference where you just sit and listen to
35:40
theories about fantasy football. And I'd taken a day off from
35:43
work for that 'cause I have a certain number of days in a year
35:46
and my boss at that time made fun of me for months, if not
35:51
years for me doing that. Now I want to imagine me telling
35:54
her now I, I have a YouTube channel where I talk about
35:59
sports cards and I travel around the country going to sports card
36:03
shows. She would, she'd probably fire
36:05
me. It would be so embarrassing for
36:07
her. Speaking of fantasy sports, I
36:13
was so addicted to fantasy football and fantasy baseball
36:19
that I had to quit. Like I heard Dan Patrick talk
36:25
about this, that he had to quit because during commercial breaks
36:31
he would pull out his phone and be making trades and offering
36:35
trades for his fantasy football team.
36:38
That it was so taking over his life.
36:40
He had to pull the RIP cord. And that's literally what I did.
36:44
And that's one of the things that I'm, I've always been aware
36:47
of with cards is I get so obsessed with things and I get
36:52
so fanatical about things that I go, it's taking over.
36:57
I, this is too much. And, and I am, I get scared at
37:00
times that that's what's going to happen for cards with me.
37:02
Because if that happens, like I don't want to walk away from
37:06
this. Because at this point, it's not
37:08
just the hobby that I think about and the acquiring of the
37:11
cards. It's some of the friendships
37:14
that matter the most to me. It's, it's our link.
37:17
And I'm like, if, if something were to happen, I were to just
37:20
flame out like a, you know, a star just flames out and I, I
37:27
would lose too much At this point.
37:30
I'm so pot committed with cards because of the relationships
37:36
that at times I think I need to temper myself.
37:39
I mean, Mike, I have put out, and I'm not exaggerating when I
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say this, a minimum of three videos every week since my
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channel launched October 21st of 2022.
37:53
Three or more videos every single week.
37:56
There was not a week I didn't do at least three videos.
38:00
Yeah, but you really undersell it because your videos are like
38:02
45 minutes long each. My videos I put out four or five
38:05
a week. My videos are like 8 to 12
38:07
minutes each. And there I do a little bit of
38:12
editing for sure, but it's nowhere near as much time as you
38:15
put in to your channel. I don't know, maybe that's next
38:20
week. We talk about the we, we do like
38:25
a whole psychological analysis of, of, of something.
38:31
I don't know. I, I love it.
38:33
I love the friendships, some of the people that matter the most
38:38
to me in this world. I have I've had face to FaceTime
38:44
for just a few hours and that's insanely, I mean, and I mean
38:50
like physically been in the same room as them.
38:53
I mean, I love Mookie Chelson. Mookie is one of my favorite
38:58
people on the planet. Like the there's, you know,
39:02
we're on the Titanic. I've got five life preservers.
39:05
I have to choose who to use them for.
39:08
Mookie's on the short list and we've only hung out twice.
39:13
No, twice. And and that is that this hobby
39:18
has given me that. We started with the list of how
39:23
the I mean, I started by talking about a car driving into a brick
39:27
wall at 1000 miles an hour and accelerating.
39:29
And now we're talking about my love of Mookie Chilson and how I
39:33
would use a life preserver on him.
39:36
I think that's the hallmark of a great podcast and why we have,
39:40
why we gel so well now. I think I, I would love to hear
39:43
people's feedback. I think that we have started to
39:47
really hit our stride as podcasters.
39:48
We, we don't stick to the topic. When I listen to a, a good
39:51
podcast, some of them are scripted and they have to follow
39:55
the script, right. But a really good podcast is a
39:57
conversation that goes all over the place.
40:01
And I love it when people start talking about their, their
40:03
personal lives and, and things like that.
40:05
So. I'm I'm really enjoying this.
40:08
This is fine. We are not.
40:09
We don't even talk about topics. You didn't even say to me, Hey,
40:12
we're going to talk about this and this and this today.
40:15
I didn't know and that's fun. Yeah, I totally agree.
40:19
Each time we do one of these, I have more fun doing it than I
40:24
did the previous time. And that has been every single
40:27
time it it has snowballed, the fun level has snowballed into a
40:32
bigger snowball each and every time.
40:34
And, and that's what it should be.
40:37
I mean, 'cause this is a hot, this is a hobby, this is a side
40:41
hobby within our hobby is this whole YouTube thing, this whole
40:45
channel that we're doing. And I got to tell people I, I,
40:49
we've, we've said it a couple times and, and we've got a
40:52
couple of big things coming up that I'm really.
40:56
Excited about. Really excited about.
40:59
And we'll have some guests on to talk about some of it.
41:05
But again, it's all because it's fun, and as soon as it's not fun
41:10
is when we just start pulling RIP cords and and hit and eject
41:13
buttons. But if the fun keeps getting
41:16
more fun, that's a good sign. I think it will.
41:21
Yeah, I do too. I do too.
41:24
All right, buddy, we're at 41 minutes.
41:27
It's Thanksgiving week. Everybody's probably watched
41:31
football all week. They probably just been well,
41:35
when is this posting? What?
41:36
What is even the date that this is going to post?
41:38
When we post these Saturday mornings.
41:40
On the on the podcast they post Saturday mornings.
41:44
So this will post. I don't even know what is it
41:49
going to be. It'll post on November 29th and
41:53
then on December 5th, No, December 4th it'll post on
41:58
YouTube and here we are November 24th.
42:01
So by now, who knows? Probstein probably has bought
42:07
out fanatics and he has been elected senator of a state that
42:14
was created since then and now. Sounds right.
42:22
All right, buddy. Good talking to you.
42:25
If you're listening to this, I hope that you've already had a
42:29
fantastic Thanksgiving with family and friends and football
42:33
and maybe some sports cards. If you are, you know, so
42:41
inclined, leave us some comments down below.
42:44
Let us know what you think of the evolution of the sports card
42:49
clubhouse, but specifically surface issues.
42:54
Final words, Mike. Yeah, I'd love the feedback.
42:58
We get quite a bit of it in the comments and and I appreciate it
43:01
helps us evolve, it helps us get better and we definitely
43:06
appreciate it. Well said, I look forward to
43:09
next week. Godspeed.
43:12
See ya.