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Mega Edition: Howard Lutnick And His Less Than Believable Epstein Back Track (7/11/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. Sometimes when I take a look back at
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the path that my life has took, it's crazy to
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think how one decision can throw you straight into the
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middle of something that you never saw coming. Now. For
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thirteen years, I lived and breathed the Joint at the
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Hard Rock. I was a stage manager, you know, the
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guy behind the curtain, making sure that the lights hit
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just right, the sound didn't blow, and the band got
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on stage before the crowd turned restless. It was high pressure,
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high stress, but high reward, all wrapped up and won
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meon package. And let me tell you, it was thirteen
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years of pure rock and roll chaos. Whether it was
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out at Rehab, whether it was in the Joint or
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down at Baby's or Body English, the excitement and action
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never stopped. But after more than a decade of late
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nights and living backstage, your boy hit the wall. I
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was burned out and I needed a change. So I
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did something that shocked just about everyone who knew me.
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I walked away from the music world and took a
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pay cut so I could slide into a different kind
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of chaos. The sports book at the Hard rock. Who
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doesn't want to talk sports all day? Right? Sit at
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a counter process a few bets, talk ball with guys
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who thought they were smarter than the lines. It sounded
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like a breather compared to wrangling egos with the guitars.
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Little did I know that the break I thought I
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was giving myself was really just walking into a whole
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new storm. Now. Look. At first, the job was simple enough.
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Write tickets, take action, keep things moving. Then came the
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announcement a big shot operation out of New York was
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planting its flag in Vegas. Their headquarters sat at the
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m Resort out on the edge of town, and they
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weren't shy about who they were or what they wanted.
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They weren't coming here to compete. They were coming here
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to dominate. They wanted to own the sports wagering market.
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And they had the kind of bravado and the kind
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of money that made the old guards sit up and
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pay attention. That company was Kenner, Fitzgerald and Canner. Wasn't
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just another book trying to scrape up handle from Weekend Warriors.
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These guys came in with ideas that changed the industry forever.
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They were the first to roll out mobile sports wagering
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the kind of thing that seems standard now, but back
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then it was a revolutionary. For the first time, a
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better could be at the bar, at home, at the
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pool and still lay down action right from their phone.
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What we're talking about here is not just convenience, folks.
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It was groundbreaking and it shifted the entire landscape of
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how betting worked in Las Vegas. But it wasn't just
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the mobile side. Canner was willing to take wagers that
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made everyone else's head spin. Most books in Las Vegas
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had limits around twenty grand, maybe a little higher. If
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they trusted you Canner, they were taking half million dollar
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wagers without blinking. I had regulars who'd walk in on
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a Saturday morning and lay down one hundred and ten
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thousand dollars on a college football game like it was
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pocket change. Then they double that on NFL Sunday Slate
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and the risk team at Canner they didn't flinch. These
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dudes welcomed it. Now, I always wondered in the back
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of my mind how when the hell they managed to
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stomach those kinds of numbers. You can't offset that kind
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of action just by balancing the books the traditional way.
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I figured, hell, maybe it's the Wall Street money behind them.
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Maybe the Canter Fitzgerald bankroll was so deep they could
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take a beating and not even feel it. I chalked
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it up to New York arrogance, married the bottomless capital.
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Boy was your boy wrong? But before I get to
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that part, the darker part, I will say this, Working
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there wasn't all bad. In fact, for a while, it
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was electric. The place was fast paced, action packed, and
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every day was a parade of wild characters. You'd see
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Wells stroll in with entourages, Sharps fly in from New
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York or Chicago, help Billy Walters himself having his beards
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lay down, action like it was an art form. It
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was like being front row to a show that never stopped.
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The adrenaline that I thought I had left behind at
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the joint, it was right back in my veins. Still,
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there was something simmering under the surface, behind the curtain,
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behind the gloss of Wall Street innovation and Vegas flash,
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there was another storyline playing out, a storyline that felt
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less like a corporate success story and more like something
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Martin Scorsese would have written if he ever set a
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movie in a sports book and that story was the
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Jersey Boys scandal. See, canner swagger didn't just attract whales
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and sharps, it attracted sharks. And the Jersey Boys, well,
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they were in some Broadway troop. They were an East
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Coast crew that turned Canner's wide open playbook into their
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personal money machine. This wasn't about betting a few games again, Lucky.
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This was about running an organized ring, wandering millions through
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Canner's operation and e betting themselves so deep in the
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system that they practically became part of the furniture. These
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guys moved action like pros. Bets were funneled through Canner,
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like water through a pipeline East Coast to Vegas, Vegas
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back to the East Coast. It was seamless, and they
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weren't shy about it. They'd come into town, plant themselves
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in the book, and start throwing down wagers so massive
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that even the most seasoned old timers couldn't believe what
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they were seeing. But Canner, they didn't care. All they
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saw was volume. All they saw was numbers that they
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could brag about back on Wall Street. So now let's
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talk leadership, because that's why we're all here. Because this
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wasn't happening in a vacuum. At the very top sat
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Howard Lutnik, the man who ran counter Fitzgerald. He wasn't
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in the trenches, but make no mistake, he was the
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king of the whole empire. His vision, his ambition, his
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hunger to bring that Wall Street swagger into Las Vegas
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is what set the whole thing in motion. He believed
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that Canner could do in the desert what they did
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with Bonds in New York, rewrite the game and crush
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the competition on the ground. In Vegas, the face of
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counter gaming was Leamidas, and Amitas wasn't your typical suit.
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He had a reputation before he even set foot in town,
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and not a clean one. People called him brash, abrasive,
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even CD. He was the kind of guy who thrived
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in gray areas, who knew how to throw elbows. He
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carried himself with the aura of a man you didn't
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want to cross. In a city that's always been built
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on hustlers and deal makers, Amitas slid right into the
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landscape like he was born under the neon. And Amidas
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brought that edge to everything that Canter did. He pushed limits.
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Garrett regulators and strutted like Cantor was untouchable, and for
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a while it looked like he was right. But the
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Jersey Boy scandal changed all of that. When the Feds
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came knocking, the facade came crumbling down. What had looked
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like innovation and swaggers suddenly seemed like corruption and complete
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And of course, the first of the fall weren't the
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guys in corner offices. It never is. It was ticket riders,
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the runners, the floor guys, the people like me who
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were just grinding out a paycheck. They were the ones
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dragged out in cuffs, first paraded like sacrificial lambs while
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the executive scrambled to spin a narrative. Yo. It was
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surreal sitting there realizing that the company you thought was
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rewriting the book on sports wagering was really just setting
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the stage for one of the ugliest scandals this town
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had ever seen. The Jersey Boy scandal was like a
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mirror held up to Canner. It showed the arrogance, the greed,
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the recklessness for what it really was. Ludnik at the top,
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insulated by his empire, his political connections, a Mitas in Vegas,
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running the show like a street boss in a customed suit,
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and in the middle a system so hungry for volume,
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for clout, for dominance, had it let the wolves right
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through the front door. Looking back now, I realized I
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didn't escape when I left the joint. I just traded
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guitars and pyrotechnics for money, lines and mobsters. Canner Gaming
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wasn't just another sports book. It was the Wall Street
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fever dream dropped into the Nevada Desert and the Jersey Boys.
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They weren't just some scandal. They were the inevitable result
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of arrogance meeting opportunity, and me. Well, I was just
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a guy trying to take a breather, to step away
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from the stress of the stage. Instead, I ended up
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standing right in the middle of a story that could
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have been ripped straight from a Scorsese script. Rock and
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Roll might have burned me out, but Canter Gaming, well,
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that taught me what it looks like when ambition, arrogance,
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and corruption all rolled the dice together, and in Vegas,
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even the house loses when they're playing the Feds. The scandal,
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the Jersey Boy scandal, wasn't just some small time hustle.
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It was an operation that grew so large and bold
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it eventually made Canner Gaming synonymous with one of the
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biggest illegal betting rings and modern sports its history. At
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its heart, it was an East Coast crew of bookies, fixers,
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and betters who figured out how to exploit Canner's willingness
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to take massive wagers without blinking. These weren't your neighborhood
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corner bookies. These were seasoned operators who had been around
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organized gambling for decades. And at center stage on the
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operational side from Cantor was Mike Colbert, who wasn't just
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some street level hustler, He was actually a Canter Gaming executive.
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Colbert served as the sports director at M Resort, and
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his nickname came from his reputation for sharp numbers and analytics.
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On paper, he was the polish face of the cutting
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edge sports book. Behind the scenes, though, Colbert was the
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lynchpin between Canner's legitimate operation and the Jersey Boy's illegal network.
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Working under Colbert's umbrella were a cast of characters who
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looked like they walked straight out of a Scorsese film.
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These Coast faction included Paul Pauli Mazzai, a Pittsburgh, Areia bookmaker,
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with deep ties to mob connected gambling. Alongside them was
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Joseph Ochi Sharp, another longtime bookmaker who knew how to
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move large volumes of money without drawing too much attention.
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Together they orchestrated the betting side, pushing millions through Canner's
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books under the guise of legitimate action. The crew's strategy
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was simple but devastatingly effective. Place massive bets through Canner's
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no limit system, used Colbert to increase the skids and
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then funnel the profits back east. What made this operation
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so powerful was Canner's appetite for volume. Most sports books
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would freeze up if someone tried to drop six figures
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on a game Canner they welcomed it. The company bragged
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about their ability to handle action that nobody else would touch.
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That arrogance created the perfect opening for the Jersey Boys,
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and look, the money flowed like a river. Over just
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a few years, the crew is believed to have moved
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tens of millions through Canner's books. The wagers weren't small
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time either. Six figure bets were common and sometimes even bigger.
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For every Sharp who thought they were outsmarting the system,
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there was a Jersey boy on the other side. Moving
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the money with inside connections. It became a closed loop
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of high stakes and higher risks. But this wasn't just
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about money laundering. This was about power. By embedting themselves
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in counters system, the Jersey Boys could operate with the
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kind of legitimacy most underground bookmakers could only dream of.
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They weren't ducking in and out of social clubs or
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hiding from collectors. They were walking right into licensed sports
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books on the strip, betting and playing sight and cashing
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out with the blessing of a Wall Street back company.
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All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up episode one right here,
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and in the next episode we're gonna pick up where
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we left off. All of the information that goes with
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this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
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this episode, we're gonna get right back to Howard Lutnak
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and the Jersey Boys scandal. The scandal started to unravel
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when law enforcement noticed the share volume of suspicious bets
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being placed. The Nevada Gaming Control Board had long kept
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an eye on unusual activity, but Canner's numbers started raising
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red flags when betters were consistently dropping one hundred thousand
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dollars or more in single wagers. Regulators wanted to know
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where the money was coming from and why Cantor wasn't
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asking the same questions. The FBI and the Department of
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Justice launched a joint investigation, Pulling on threads that stretch
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from Las Vegas to New Jersey to Pittsburgh. Wire taps, surveillance,
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and the undercover operations began piecing together a picture of
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just how vast the operation was. What they found was
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a sophisticated network of more than two dozen individuals, all
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connected by a single pipeline, Canner Gaming sportsbooks. Colbert became
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the first major domino to fall. In October of twenty twelve,
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he was arrested along with more than two dozen others
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in a sweeping raid. Authorities accused them of laundering millions
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through Canner's books and of being a central figure in
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connection with the Jersey Boys action to the legitimate sportsbook world.
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For Canner, it was a body blow. One of the
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most prominent executives was suddenly in cuffs, paraded in headlines
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that scream mob ties and illegal betting. The arrest painted
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a vivid picture of the operation's scope. Mazzie and Sharp
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were charged as ringleaders orchestrating the betting actively from the
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East Coast. Dozens of associates, runners, clerks, middlemen were rounded
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up as part of the bust. Even though Colbert initially
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maintained his innocence, the evidenced ACKed against him showed that
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the Jersey Boys had burrowed deep into Cannor's foundation. Now
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what stunned many observers wasn't just the involvement of organized crime,
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but how brazen the entire scheme had become. These weren't
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men hiding in the shadows. They were using the neon
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glow of the strip to master movements. By piggybacking on
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Canner's legitimacy, they could disguise illegal book making as sanctioned
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high roller action. It was a scam so audacious that
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it almost seemed untouchable. Amitas, Canner's president, tried to distance
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himself from the scandal, painting Colbert as a rogue actor
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and claiming the company had no knowledge of what was
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going on. But the culture he created, the one that
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welcomed massive wagers without fear. That prized volume above scrutiny
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was exactly what allowed the Jersey Boys to thrive. Regulators
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weren't convinced that Canner was just a bystander, and ultimately
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Canter Gaming was hit hard. In twenty fourteen, the company
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agreed to pay five point five million dollars to settle
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charges with Nevada regulators related to the scandal. While they
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avoided admitting direct wrongdoing, the fine was one of the
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largest in state history at the time. It was a
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public rebuke, a scarlet letter that showed Canner wasn't the
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untouchable titan they thought they were. Colbert, meanwhile, played guilty
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in twenty fifteen to a felony charge of conspiracy. His
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downfall was symbolic, a reminder that even the sharpest computer
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could get caught when the house of cards collapses. The
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Jersey Boys crew fractured, their leaders, tied up in legal
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cases that dragged on for years. What had once looked
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like a seamless operation now looked like a cautionary tale
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about greed, arrogance, and the illusion of invincibility. For the
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gaming industry, the scandal left a lasting mark. Regulators tightened oversight,
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sportsbooks became more cautious about accepting giant wagers, and the
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idea that Wall Street could simply transplanted Swagger into Las
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Vegas suddenly seemed naive. The Jersey Boys proved that unchecked
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ambition could make even the biggest names vulnerable. A Midas
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eventually stepped down from counter gaming in twenty sixteen. His
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reputation for were stained by the scandal. He tried to
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act like the tough guy who could bully Vegas into bending,
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but in the end he left under a cloud. Lutnick
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remained largely insulated, but his company's brand took a hit
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that never fully recovered. The cann name in sports betting
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became synonymous not with innovation, but with scandal, and the
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irony of all of this was the very thing Canner
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prided itself on. Taking huge bets, innovating mobile wagering, welcoming
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the action others wouldn't take were the same things that
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gave the Jersey Boys the keys to the kingdom. What
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was marketed as forward thinking and revolutionary turned into the
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perfect opportunity for corruption. For those of us who were there,
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it was surreal. One day we were writing tickets, talking
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sports soaked in the chaos of the book. The next
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day the Feds were on the news, names were in
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the headlines, and people we worked alongside were being hauled
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out in handcuffs. It felt like the script of a movie.
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But it was all to and in the immediate aftermath,
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Canner Gaming scrambled to control the narrative. They positioned themselves
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as victims of rogue employees, claiming Colbert's actions were independent
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and not reflective of company policy. But that line was
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tough to swallow when regulators and prosecutors made it clear
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the culture at Cantor encouraged exactly the kind of recklessness
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that allowed the scandal to thrive. The Nevada Gaming Control
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Board came down hard. They issued scathing statements about Canner's
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lack of oversight, pointing out that while other sports books
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imposed limits and safeguards, Canner bragged about taking the kind
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of action that no one else would. The five and
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a half million dollar fine handed down in twenty fourteen
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wasn't just about punishing Canter. It was about sending a
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message to the entire industry. Behind closed doors, the pressure
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on Cantor executives mounted. Regulators wanted answers, Wall Street investors
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wanted damage control, and casino partners wanted distance. The once
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proud Canter name quickly became toxic. What had been seen
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as innovation, pioneering mobile betting, introducing new ways to take
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action suddenly looked like a reckless gamble that invited corruption.
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Leomidas pore much of the brunt in Las Vegas. Known
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for his abrasive street ball style, Amidas had always thrived
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on confrontation, but after the scandal, his brash reputation became
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a liability. Casino partners questioned whether his leadership had fueled
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the problems, and regulators made it clear they weren't convinced
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by his denials. He hung on for a few more years,
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but in twenty sixteen he stepped down, his legacy forever
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tied to the Jersey Boy fiasco. Howard Lutnick, insulated by
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Canter Fitzgerald, largely escaped personal accountability, but even he couldn't
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shield the company from reputational damage. Canter Gaming, once marketed
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as the future of sportsbooks, became synonymous with scandal. Wall
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Street swagger had turned earned into Vegas shame. Now in
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the wake of this scandal, Canter rebranded. By twenty seventeen,
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the company changed its name to CG Technology, hoping to
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shake the stigma, but insiders new it was just window dressing.
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The new name couldn't erase the headlines, the fines, or
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the lingering whispers about mob ties and federal investigations. The
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rebranded CG Technology struggled to regain the trust of the industry.
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Casinos that had once welcomed Canner's deep pockets and flashy
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mobile platforms began to reconsider Competitors like William Hill and
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Caesar's took advantage, positioning themselves as the responsible players in
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contrast to Canner's recklessness. At the same time, regulators across
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the US tightened their grip. The Jersey Boy scandal became
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a case study in what happens when oversight slips and
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why things like anti money laundering compliance needed to be
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a higher priority. Books that once might have pushed boundaries
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began taking a step back, realizing the FEDS were watching
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closer than ever. The scandal also changed how casinos view
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to partnerships. Before Canner, the idea of teaming up with
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Wall Street back firms sounded exciting, access to capital, technology
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and sophistication. After Cantor Casinos realized that outsiders didn't always
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understand the unique pressures and pitfalls of the gaming world.
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The industry became more cautious about who they let inside
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their walls. For betters, the fallout was mixed. On one hand,
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mobile betting, pioneered by Canner continued to thrive, eventually becoming
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the backbone of legalized sports wagering across the country. On
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the other hand, the days of dropping half a million
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on a game with little pushback were over. Books got stricter,
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limits got tighter, and scrutiny intensified. Meanwhile, CG Technology limped
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through the mid twenty tens, but the damage was permanent.
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They were never able to reclaim the dominance they once sought.
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Instead of being the leader of a new era, they
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became accautionary tale, an example of what not to do.
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By twenty twenty, CG technology struggle culminated in their cell.
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The company was acquired by William Hill, which itself was
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later bought by Caesars. The Canner dream of dominating Las
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Vegas and rewriting the rules of sports betting died quietly,
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swallowed up by more traditional operators who understood both the
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opportunity and the responsibility of the industry. Even today, oldheimer's
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in sportsbook business still bring up Cantor as a story
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of hubris. They'll say, remember when they thought they could
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take any bet at any number and get away with it.
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It's a reminder that in Vegas, the line between innovation
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and recklessness is razor thin. As for the industry, the
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Jersey Boy scandal marked the end of the Wild West
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era of Vegas sports books. The big scandals of the past,
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point shaving schemes, mob control betting rings suddenly had a
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modern counterpart in Canner. It was proof that even in
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the twenty first century, greed could still trip up giants.
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And looking back, Canner's biggest contribution to sports betting was
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in its dominance. It was its cautionary tale. They introduced
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mobile wagering. Sure, they push the limits that forced the
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industry to evolve, but their arrogance and their entanglement with
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the Jersey Boys ensure that their name would live on
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not as pioneers, but as a warning. And for the
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men at the top, Amitas, Lutnick, Colbert, their legacies were sealed.
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Amitas left Vegas under a cloud. Lutnik kept his Wall
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Street empire and went on to work for President Trump,
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but failed to conquer the desert. Colbert went from being
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an executive at a high flying company to being a felon,
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and together they represent the rise and fall of an
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empire that they thought was untouchable. And you know that's
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the thing about Vegas. This town doesn't forgive arrogance, It
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buries it. Canner came in like Kings, talking big, throwing
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around Wall Street money, and acting like they had cracked
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the code. For a minute, they looked unstoppable, but in
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the end the strip chewed them up and spit them out,
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just like it always does with anyone who forgets that
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the house may not always win, but it never lets
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Hubris walk away clean. All of the information that goes
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with this episode can be found in the description box.
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What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. So Howard Lutnik has just given an interview,
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and in that interview he was talking about Jeffrey Epstein,
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who happened to be his next door neighbor. And according
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to the interview he gave on podforth one, he says
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that Jeffrey Epstein is the greatest blackmailer ever and according
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to Howard Lutnik, him and his wife went to Epstein's
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one time and never went back again because how creepy
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it was. And in an episode coming up, after we
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set the tone here with this article, I'm going to
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talk to you a little bit more about my experience
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working for Howard Lutnik. That's right, folks, I worked for
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Canner Fitzgerald. A lot of you know that. Some of
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you might not know that, but I worked for their
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gaming division in Las Vegas, and the name of that
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division was Canner Gaming at first, and then the name
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was changed to CG Gaming. The boss Howard Lutnick, his
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chief here in town, Liamidas And for those of you
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who don't know, the company ended up getting smacked with
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the biggest fine ever given out by the Gaming Commission.
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So we're going to talk more about that story in
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an episode coming up later today. But first we're gonna
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set the table and talk about what Howard Lutnik had
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to say when it comes to his ex neighbor Jeffrey Epstein.
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This article was published by The New York Post headline
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Howard Lutnick calls X neighbor Jeffrey Epstein greatest blackmailer ever
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In podforst one interview. This article was authored by Josh
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Christiansen Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, in an notable break with
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the Department of Justice, claim late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was
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the greatest black maler ever and may have traded the
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fed's video of his rich and well connected associates getting
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massages from young women in exchange for a controversial two
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thousand and eight plea deal. Say what now, Howard Lutnik
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coming out and smitting some truth. Certainly not my experience
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working for the guy, but here we are, and I
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think it's significant to note that Lutnik is one of
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Trump's biggest confidants, So him coming out and saying this
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is pretty wild. Honestly, it goes directly in the face
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of what we've been told by the DOJ, by Trump himself.
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So I wonder what the play is here now. Of course,
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you know, I'm very cynical when it comes to all
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of this, so I always think there's some kind of
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play in motion. So we'll have to wait to see
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the other shoe drop. But there's no doubt that he's
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off the reservation when it comes to this kind of commentary.
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The question is is it by design? The sixty four
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year old cabinet sect terry said. Epstein himself showed off
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his notorious massage room while giving Lutnik and his wife
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a tour of the infamous seventy first Street townhouse after
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the couple moved in next door to the sense disgraced
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financier in two thousand and five. Like, imagine living next
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to Epstein and not knowing what's going on, or pretending
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you don't know. He knows, and that's why he's coming
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out and saying this. You know, Epstein's predation was so
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in your face and so brazen that anybody who was
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around him for any period of time can't really run
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around and talk about, Oh, I had no idea what
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was going on. At the very least, you had to
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suspect that dude was up to no good, and if not,
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it's probably because you were willfully ignoring it. I say
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to him, massage tables in the middle of your house,
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how often do you have a massage, Lutnick recalled, And
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he says every day. And then he gets like weirdly
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close to me, and he says, and the right kind
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of massage, as in, hey, mister Lutnick want to come
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over and get a little tuggy tug tug, basically what
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Epstein's saying. And if you think that it was only
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Howard Lutnik that he was talking to like this, you're crazy.
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This is how these people talk. We all saw the
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birthday book, we saw the messages. So don't sit here
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and think that they're talking differently, especially when they're in private. Now,
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when they're in public, they're gonna have their best face on. Right.
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They're all great people. They're all fantastic pillars of the community,
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the real Salt and Earth type. The second the door closes,
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the mask comes off and the beast emerges. Lutnix said
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that he and his wife quickly excuse themselves and left
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Epstein's home, and in the six to eight steps it
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takes to get from his house to my house, my
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wife and I decided that I will never be in
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the room with that disgusting person ever again. Well. I
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don't know if that's true or not. But throughout all
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the history and all the research, Lutnick's name hasn't popped
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up in any of these you know, adventures that Epstein
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was on. Now, were they hanging out at Epstein's house,
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or was Epstein over at his house? I don't know.
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I mean their neighbors. But just because their neighbors doesn't
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mean they're friends. I know I have neighbors that I
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wouldn't associate with, not because they're you know, child molesters,
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but because we're just different people, right Besides the casual
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wave and nod, hello, how you doing, we have nothing
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in common, no reason for me to be going to
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their little party or barbecue or whatever. When asked by
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the Vine whether Epstein's rich and powerful associates, including the
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likes of Prince Andrew and Microsoft founder of Bill Gates,
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could hang around them and not see what you saw,
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or did they see it and ignore it, Lutnik responded,
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they participated. They get a massage. That was his mo
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o was get a massage, get a massage. And what
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happened in the massage room I assume was on video.
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The Commerce secretary went on, this guy was the greatest
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blackmailer ever, blackmailed people, that's how he made money. And
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this isn't some regular person to telling you this. This
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isn't me telling you this. This is Trump's Commerce secretary,
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Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor, a guy that knows what's up. And
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as much as I'm not a big fan of Howard Lutnick,
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he's telling the truth here. All these people who are
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definitely in that massage room getting massages, and god knows
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what else. And if you think it wasn't recorded, if
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you think there's no video, you have not been paying attention.
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A spokesperson for Bill Gates told the Post in a statement,
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this is absolutely false. Gates met with Epstein to discuss
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philanthropy and nothing else. Well, why hasn't Bill Gates suit anybody?
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A lot of people have had a lot to say
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about Bill Gates when it comes to Epstein, and he
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hasn't said shit? Why not sue somebody? If you're so
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innocent and look normal people like me and you, it's
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a whole different story, right, we want to get into
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a lawsuit, it's gonna cost a bunch of dough. A
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guy like Bill Gates got more money than he knows
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what to do with. So if this is all a
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bunch of bs and everybody's lying on you and everybody's
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telling falsehoods, why doesn't your bitch ass sue somebody? Lutnick added,
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I assume way back when they traded those videos in
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exchange for him getting that eighteen month sentence which allowed
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him to have visits to be out of jail. I mean,
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he's a serial sex offender. How could he get eighteen
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months and be able to go to his office during
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the day and his visitors and stuff. There must have
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been a trade, So my assumption, I have no knowledge,
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but my assumption is there was a trade for the
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videos because there were people on those videos. He also claimed,
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so is Howard Lutnick a conspiracy theorist because he's saying
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the same exact thing I've been saying that the videos exist. Now,
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I won't say who's on those videos because I don't know.
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I'm not gonna sit here and make pretend I have
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a list of people that I can give you who
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were on the video, or who were in the house
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or whatever. I don't know. All I know is what's
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been reported and what's been told to us by the survivors.
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But anyone who thinks they weren't recording in there, they
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weren't using these videos to make dossiers, you're crazy. The
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DOJ and the FBI released a memo July six, claiming
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a systematic review had found that Epstein held no client
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list of rich and powerful associates. Well, that was all
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part of the hustle. There was never a list. The
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same thing I've told you for years now. Don't get
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bogged down with all the bs. Whenever you hear something
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catching fire in the media, always ask yourself why why
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are they talking about it now? Why they're bringing it up?
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And the list was always a distraction. The memo also
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stated that there was no credible evidence found that Epstein
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black Melo prominent individuals as part of his actions, and
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no evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties,
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despite Epstein having harmed over one thousand victims, Like, how
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can anyone believe it? Like, honestly, how can anyone believe it?
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I mean, they used the same game plan, the same
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blueprint every time, and they want to cover something up.
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I mean, look at the Octopus murders. Look at what
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happened with a promise software. It goes on and on
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and on. Epstein sixty six was found dead in his
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Manhattan lock up on August tenth, twenty nineteen, while awaiting
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federal trial on sex trafficking charges more than a decade prior.
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He had been forced in two thousand and eight to
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register as a sex offender and plead guilty to a
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Florida charges of soliciting prostitution and soliciting a minor for
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sex as part of an agreement that'saw him serve no
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more than thirteen months confinement, most of it on work release.
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So you know, like when you were younger and your
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parents tried to ground you and you were so fucking annoying,
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they let you go outside. Basically what happened here. Mister
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billionaire child diddler throws a fit, so they give him
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what he wants. Epstein quietly paid girls hundreds of dollars
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to give him massages and his Florida home, though none
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who spoke with law enforcement said there were video records
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made of the encounters. According to a twenty twenty DOJ
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Office of Professional Responsibility report on the prosecution, that's because
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those encounters were for Epstein's own proclivities, his own desires,
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his own degeneracy. The other girls, those were the girls
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that were being farmed out, the girls from Eastern Europe,
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the girls from South America, etc. Don't let them conflate
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the issue. The South Florida US Attorney's Office, headed up
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then by Alex Acosta, had reached a non prosecution agreement
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with Epstein due to evidentiary issues, in order to force
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the financier to cop to stay charges. Acosta has since
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expressed remorse about how its terms were not followed. Oh yeah,
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mister Acosta, another great guy, not the man who's responsible
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for this, but certainly the man who acted as the
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patsy and certainly a willing participant. So yeah, Acosta being slammed,
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he deserves all of it. But let's not he wasn't
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the one who gave the final lo k for that
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deal that came from MUKESI, that came from Phelipe. The
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Palm Beach State Attorney's originally proposed resolution no jail time
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for sex offender registration was unacceptable to mister Acosta and
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his team, said attorney Jeffrey Neeman, who represented the ex
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Miami prosecutor before a House panel grilling earlier this month.
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Mister Acosta took responsibility for approving the final resolution, admitting
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that relying on the state system was a mistake. Niemann added,
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saying Epstein's Sentencing and Sex Offenderal Registry sent a message
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to the community that Epstein's conduct was unacceptable. I mean,
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how can you say that with a straight face. Now,
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I know you're a lawyer and all that, but really
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Two years ago, a photo allegedly taken by Epstein showing
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himself with Gates at the Microsoft founder's Seattle office in
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March twenty fifteen, six years after he registered as a
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sex offender and went to prison, Gates met Epstein for
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the first time face to face at dinner in the
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latter's Manhattan townhouse in January twenty eleven. According to The
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New York Times, President Trump enjoyed a close association with
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Epstein in the nineties and early two thousands, but revealed
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earlier this year he had booted Epstein from his Mara
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a Lago club after finding out that the pervert was
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recruiting messus is from the Spa to work for his
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lecherous ends. Hold up, missuses, Virginia was a Spa girl,
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not even of age. You have to be eighteen to
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be a missus. Breaking news. Virginia was not eighteen, so
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she was not a massus. Call it what it is.
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A little girl taken from a job that people get
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in high school. Right, I'm going to be a SPA attendant.
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I'm gonna go and be a caddie. I'm gonna go
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and work, et cetera, et cetera. But for Glenn Maxwell
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and for this disgusting fuck Jeffrey Epstein, that became a
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fertile hunting ground so they can go and find, as
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Glenn Maxwell put it, new biles people were taken out
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of the SPA hired by him. Trump told reporters aboard
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Air Force one July twenty ninth. When I heard about it,
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I told him, I said, listen, we don't want you
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taking our people, whether it was a SPA or not SPA,
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I don't want him taking people. And he was fine,
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And then not too long after that he did it again,
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and I said, out of here. Well, we all know
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that there's multiple versions of that story too, So who
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the hell knows what's true and what's not. What we
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do know is that the two did have a relationship,
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that the two were friendly, and that the two did
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have a falling out. What we don't have are the details, right,
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we don't have all of the inside information about what
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Epstein and Trump were up to, if they were up
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to anything together. But what we do know for sure,
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and what I can tell you concretely, is that what's
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going on now is a cover up. So the question
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once again becomes, who are you protecting and why. All
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