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Spring Series: What You Need to Know about Enneagram Five! | Kristen Yeh · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: If you found yourself saying things like, How can I get out of that dinner party?
• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I could formulate my answer faster.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: Not another meeting.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: I need a lot of alone time to recharge.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: Are these something you would say, or are familiar phrases you've heard from a loved one?
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: If so, you might be an Enneagram 5 or no a five.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'd love to invite you to join me on a journey of self-discovery and compassion to learn insights about this personality type who is often known as the investigator, the answer seeker, the researcher, and the knowledge advocate.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: If you happen to know a five or you want others to know more about the Enneagram 5 personality, go ahead and follow that prompting to share this podcast with them.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: Just use your podcast platform share feature so this episode can give others an opportunity to learn more about this fascinating knowledge about the Enneagram 5.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Hello and welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Amy Wicks, your wholehearted living coach.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm so glad that you stopped by to spend some time with me.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: Are you curious about the Enneagram?
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Do you want to learn biblical truths?
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: And have you wondered if there are life rhythms that will help you thrive?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Fred, then you are in the right place.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: For six years, this podcast has focused on sharing conversations with my friends about life, business, motherhood, faith, and all things Enneagram from a Christian perspective.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: I truly understand what it's like to juggle everything as a wife, mom to three teenagers, a pup, and all while building a growing business.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: And friend, I haven't always done things with clarity, peace, or joy.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: But still, the Lord has taken my broken-hearted pieces and healed them so I can live with whole-hearted rhythm to provide women like you with a step-by-step process so you can get free of anxiety, shame, and frustrations that might be holding you back from thriving.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: I pray that the Lord speaks to you as you listen today and that you would invite your friends and family to join the fun conversations.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: Are you ready to laugh a little and learn a whole lot?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Alrighty, let's get to the conversation.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_00: What do you need to know about an Enneagram 5?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well, friends, we would need way more time than the time that you want to give in one sitting because the nuances of each Enneagram type are as varied as there are options of books to read at the local library or your Barnes and Noble.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: But this episode is going to offer some highlights to help you understand more about the perspective of a five.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: As we dive in, I want you to know that if there's more Enneagram-specific information or information you want to know about the five, I have lots of things to help you on your journey.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: You can just head to the show notes for podcast recommendations and so much more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, in this episode, I'm going to share unique traits and insights into this fascinating personality.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then you're going to get a first-hand account from an Enneagram 5 and her experience about what it was like to go through the self-discovery and wholehearted process.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: And last, I would love for you to listen all the way to the end because the insightful and wise Deanna Sudom, who leans heavily into her five-wing, is going to finish this episode with a specific scripture and prayer specifically for you or your loved one.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: Now, what does an Enneagram 5 look like as a child?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: They're typically independent, they are likely to avoid interpersonal conflict, they're bright and curious, they love to research and learn, ask lots of questions, and they may come across as detached information gatherers.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: Now, many Enneagram 5 children may be among the most misunderstood or misinterpreted types because their complex self-containment may have often diminished their receptivity and expression of love between themselves and their caregivers.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_00: While they didn't naturally need as much attention compared to their siblings or peers, they still did need attention, but they are less likely to have expressed it, which may have caused them to miss the opportunity to get the desire for affection met.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, that's just human need, right?
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now, that lack of needingness or the oversight that could have happened maybe fueled the type 5 child's disconnect from both parents.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: It may have fueled a lack of healthy attachment.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: Their lack of expression for need or connection may have triggered their struggle with greed, as they may have felt that they had to get the scraps or leftover attachment that was available compared to their siblings or maybe what their peers even had with their parents.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: Fives are motivated to be seen as capable and competent, and they desire to master a body of knowledge and skill, preferably alone or quote unquote in isolation.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: And this desire continues to grow as they mature.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: And they often do this in isolation in hopes to reduce their need to be helped by others.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now, as five continues to mature, their fear of obligation grows.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_00: Also, their fear of being intruded upon, maybe ignorant or overwhelmed or overly dependent.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they may even struggle to succinctly express their thoughts and knowledge because they often have so much to share or fear that others will deem them insufficient or that they don't have enough knowledge.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_00: The five's decision-making strength associates them with what is known as the head triad, and those are the types five, six, and seven.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_00: This means they filter information through their thoughts before deciding how to react or what emotions are involved.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: A type in the head triad will be led by their automatic reaction to their emotional struggle, which is anxiety.
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  SPEAKER_00: Another commonality of the types in the head triad, again, the five, six, and seven, is their desire or drive for security.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: The five's anxiety can be confusing to themselves and others.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're likely to withdraw and get quiet or become expressive in their anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they feel pressed to give an answer, they don't feel confident about.
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  SPEAKER_00: The fives anxiety is often rooted in the ability to have the answer.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: They may come across as intellectually arrogant in order to keep up appearances, or maybe they will even isolate further to gather more information.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Now, when their fears of lacking knowledge are exasperated, or they feel proven to not have had enough knowledge or information, this naturally causes their anxiety to increase.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then they may blame others for depleting them or interfering with their research process.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: They may inadvertently cut off relationships due to their need to process privately and recharge alone.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: The five's communication preference falls within the withdrawing stance in the Enneagram.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: And that just means their strength is being mindful of the past.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: They tend to think, what should I have done differently?
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: But that can cause a downward spiral of anxiety and endless information gathering.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: Their fear of rejection can also create a pattern of escape, right?
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: It feels safe to reject others first, which often causes them to miss what is in the present.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_00: When understanding the five's repression center, they fall into the category of doing repression.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: Now, of course, the five plans to do many things, but they may use up most of their energy in the planning process.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: And even though the five is very driven to find the answer, they may not be as driven for the production or the process of following through on the list.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oftentimes the five is not often aware of how much time they take planning to do something opposed to actually carrying out or doing something.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: And what often triggers this repression center is that a five wakes up knowing that they have limited energy.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: And yet there is always a demand for their attention, knowledge, and resources.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: The fives are invited to be cognizant of their tendency to believe that they are either ignorant or incapable if they don't have a hundred percent mastery of a skill or knowledge.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: The invitation is to share the knowledge or skill that they have acquired so far, even if there is more to learn.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: And this does help the five engage with others or instruct others with humility and a teachable spirit.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: When faced with loss and grief, the five may naturally grieve what happened in the past.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: So in the face of loss, they may experience delayed grief.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: But when they have the space and time to reflect, they may be surprised or they catch others off guard by expressing grief over something that happened months or years ago.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because a five is not inclined to outwardly emote, which means outwardly express emotions, an excellent way to express that you care or want to help a five in their grief is to affirm their expression when they are able to do so.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like all Enneagram types, the five wings are on either side of its number on the Enneagram, just like that butterfly, dragonfly, or whatever insect with wings that you can think of.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: The Enneagram 5 Wing 4 has the fantastic ability to pull things apart and then conceptualize new ways to look at them from a creative viewpoint.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: In general, they tend to be more creative, humanistic, sensitive, and empathetic.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: The Enneagram 5 Wing 6 thrives on dissecting and analyzing problems, making their superpower combination a solution finder through research and intellect.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: They're generally more extroverted, loyal, anxious, skeptical, and cautious.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: Now, when a five's triggers are activated, they may self-sabotage and engage the low side of the seven, becoming hyperactive and scattered.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: Huh, sounds very different than a five, right?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: They may impulsively take on new projects and tend to become unfocused and distracted.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Ultimately, this creates greater frustration with themselves because they do take great pride in their focus plans.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: This will often lead to disconnecting even more from their external world.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: And this kind of stress will lead them to disconnecting even more from their external world.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: One of five practices rhythms of consenting in silence.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_00: Silence invites the five to just listen.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: It helps them learn how to attune to the voice of God, a voice that is not always easy to recognize.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: But this does open the door to encounter Jesus, the true investigator.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're a five, your brokenhearted moments can be transformed into wholehearted healing as you declare these truth statements.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: May I welcome this present moment regardless of what I have or don't have.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: May I receive the gift of silence resting my mind.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: And may I let go my need to know and my desire for self-sufficiency.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Rest from your need to find all the answers and connect to the one who holds all truth and is the source of wisdom.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: When you rest from the need to find the answers, you end up relying on that source of wisdom, and consenting to silence allows you to embrace mystery and quiet the distracting mental noises that has perhaps clouded or overwhelmed you along the way.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: I love that A.J.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Sherrill invites Enneagram fives to observe rhythms of serving with their whole selves, specifically their hands and body, not just their mind.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: The day of the church calendar to pay a special attention to is Christmide.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: These days are marked not only with the celebration of the arrival of our Messiah, but I'd also like to add by the tradition of giving.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Twelve days of Christmas festivities and the call to extravagant giving are both upstream practices for the five.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: In addition to spiritual rhythms, here are practical tips for a five to remember.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Allow yourself to identify and voice your needs to others.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: Practice expressing and sharing your feelings during times of conversation with a trusted circle.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: And even if it feels like a trite or mundane emotion, purpose to connect your experience with or to a singular emotion.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: And while this might be the most stretching, try it out.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: And that is say yes as often as possible.
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  SPEAKER_00: Say yes to the coffee date, the spontaneous dinner out, or the group gathering this next weekend.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: While retreating does help you recharge, your appetite for withdrawing grows when you shrink your appetite for external connection.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: Something to ponder.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now, would you like to meet an Enneagram 5?
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: I do feel that sometimes fives are the toughest to get on this podcast, so I'm thrilled to introduce one of my mentorship coaches, Kristen Ye.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful for her trust and even more thankful that she's willing to share some of her story and experience with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: I feel like she's given you, the listener, an opportunity to go with her on the whole-hearted journey.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I love her revelation about seeing Technicolor.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: You'll have to listen for that one.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: My name is Kristen Ye.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and here is my whole-hearted journey.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: I heard about the Enneagram probably five years ago in a Facebook post.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: As someone who is naturally very curious, I was intrigued.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: I read the roadback to you, and to a very small degree, my eyes started to be open to how people see the world differently than me.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: The Enneagram at this point was interesting, but I had a hard time connecting it to me personally.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: At first I thought I was a one because that's what the test said, but I wasn't truly resonating with it.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: During some counseling work that I was doing, my therapist suggested that I take an Enneagram test.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: That test came out as a five, so I tried on that type.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: As I dug deeper, I started to resonate with the core motivations of the type five.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: As things started to click with my own story, I dove all in to the Enneagram, reading more books and listening to probably hundreds of podcasts.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: The Enneagram gave me language to understand myself and others in a way I never had before.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Most importantly, I began to see that God created me in a very unique and special way.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: He wired me differently than those around me, and that was a good thing.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: I could celebrate the parts of my personality that seemed so different than others, because they were created by a generous and creative God who does not make mistakes.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: As a five, I'm a ferocious learner.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: I continually want to know more about the things that interest me.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: I dive in and soak up resources, podcasts, and books.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_02: I live most of my life in my head, and my brain never stops thinking.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm seldom bored because there is always something to ponder.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: I continually make connections between things I have learned and current situations and relationships.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: Socially, I am perfectly content to sit back and listen, just taking it all in.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: I do not want to be the center of attention, and it often takes me a bit to feel comfortable participating in conversation.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: I have a lower level of emotional energy than those around me, and my battery gets drained more quickly.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: I need lots of time alone to recharge.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_02: When things get hard and I'm not living intentionally, I will withdraw, either physically by leaving, or just withdrawing in my mind.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: I can be present physically but be somewhere else entirely emotionally.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Discovering all these parts of me in my 40s felt like a breath of fresh air.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: God has used and continues to use the Enneagram to help me see my identity as a beloved child of God.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: For so long I could define myself by my roles.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: I was a wife, a mom, a sister, a daughter, a friend, etc.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: But I didn't understand who I was at my core.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: If you had asked me who I was apart from those roles, I would have struggled to give an answer.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: Now I have a firm foundation on which to stand and roots that go down deep because of who I am in Christ.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm no longer floundering trying to understand who I am.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: Now I know.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: I smile as I think about how becoming rooted in my true identity opened up something inside of me.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: I smile as I think about how becoming rooted in my true identity opened up something inside of me, and I started to experience God's kindness and love in a way I never had before.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: It was tangible and felt like a warm embrace from a tender father.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: After learning about the Enneagram and seeing God start to do this work of transformation in my heart, I felt God nudging me to be part of that journey and the lives of others.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: As I thought about possibly becoming a coach, I decided to experience the coaching process for myself first.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: Working with a coach was helpful on many levels.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: Through thoughtful questions and observations, she guided me to see blind spots, defense mechanisms, and lies that I believe and had believed since I was a child.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: We always came back to the truth of the gospel and worked through ways that I could replace those lies with the truth.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: There's a vast difference between knowing my identity in Christ and my head and living it out wholeheartedly, mind, body, and spirit.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: A broader awareness of my inner world and learning how to go to Christ as the source of my strength and transformation brought me freedom, security, and identity that continues to fill me with a sense of gratitude and peace.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: As I look back on my journey thus far, I'm humbled by the work of transformation that God has done and continues to do in me.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: He's been so faithful.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Although I had been a follower of Christ since I was a child, my relationship with him was mostly in my head.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: I really couldn't understand how others related to God in a more personal and holistic way.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Getting out of my head and into my gut and my emotions opened up more ways for me to know and experience the love, care, kindness, and tenderness of my Savior.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: Learning vulnerability has been a huge part of my growth journey.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: For so long, vulnerability was a foreign concept, and my relationships suffered.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's still scary to put myself out there and takes courage every time.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: But seeing the fruit of living more authentically motivates me to keep doing it.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: The biggest changes I've seen have been in my relationships.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: My husband and I have been married 23 years and have four boys ranging in age from 19 to 12.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_02: Before doing this work, relationships were pretty black and white.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't understand that others experienced the world differently than I did, and I tried to fit them into my box.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: I was often critical and judgmental, and I tried to control things that were just not mine to control.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: I would become frustrated when those around me couldn't see things my way.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: Now, instead of a world that is black and white, I'm living life with others in technicolor.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: There is beauty all around me.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: Recognizing the unique ways that those around me see and experience the world has given me so much grace and empathy.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: I'm learning how to respond instead of react, listen for understanding instead of lecturing, and how to ask good questions to draw others out.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: My kids all have.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Such different personalities, and I've adjusted how I communicate with each one so that I'm connecting at a deeper level to their hearts.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot more laughing and lightheartedness in our home as I've leaned into my seven, becoming more spontaneous and flexible.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: My husband and I have grown closer as I've shared more of my inner world with him.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: My whole-hearted journey continues to be a journey of identity, integration, and healing.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's a lifelong journey of increased intimacy with Christ and wholeness.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: I've got a long way to go, but I'm in it for the long haul.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_02: As I learn more about myself and lean into my relationship with Jesus, he shows me new ways he wants to grow me and transform me to be more and more like him.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right now, he's growing and stretching me through the simply wholehearted coaching mentorship.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: I became certified through your Enneagram coach in December 2022 and have launched my coaching business, Thrive Enneagram Coaching.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: As a coach, I am truly honored to be a small part of the wholehearted journey in the lives of others.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: God created us to thrive, and he is so faithful to walk with us as we learn how to lean into him, be grounded in the truth of the gospel, and live as his beloved.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: Type 5 friend, this is Deanna Sudim.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: You have been created to reflect the wisdom of God.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you that through your desire to understand the world and your natural curiosity to dig deeper, you attain knowledge needed to impart God's wisdom.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for how you teach us from the great gatherings in your research.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: I pray this word in Second Corinthians nine verses six to eight in the CSB version speaks deeply to your spirit.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: The point is this, reap generously.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Each person should do as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or out of compulsion, since God loves a cheerful giver, and God is able to make every grace overflow to you, so that in every way, always having everything you need, you may excel in every good work.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: I sense that what feels the opposite to you by having hands wide open to share yourself in your knowledge will be the very thing that will help set you free in knowing you are his beloved.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: Lord, I pray that you will speak to any insecurities that may drive these precious fives in their quest for knowledge and understanding.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: Squelch the anxiety within and show them their beautiful value in contributing to this world.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Lord, help them to take their thoughts captive into the obedience of Christ to interrupt the spirals of anxiousness.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Father, will you expand their pursuit to not just be understanding, but in having the thrill of experiencing what they learn as well?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: We pray for an integration of their inner and outer selves in a way that is not overwhelming, but gentle like your presence and character is in drawing those you love.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Father, for their astute powers of observation.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Reassure them, Lord, that even the little mastery they have is enough in you.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: Speak over their places of competency and capability, that their needs are not a problem, and you will heal any places in their hearts and spirit where lack has been the perception or reality.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Father, thank you for their gift of contentment in being alone with the ability to sit in silence.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for attuning their ears to your voice, and please, God, will you bring comfort that you will replenish their depleted resources and take care of their needs as you help them step into the healing places of fellowship with others and in community that is safe for them to heal.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: Let their security be in you.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: May the journey from their head to their heart be encapsulated in your truth and grace so that they can walk in assurance of your peace.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: In Jesus' name, amen.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Deanna, thank you once again.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if you're an Enneagram Five, I do pray that you feel understood, valued, and respected by the content in this episode.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: And perhaps you've even learned a little bit more about yourself in the process.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: Now, if you know a five, I imagine that they would appreciate that you've taken the time to learn more about how they view the world the way they do, and that they're so much more than a number.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I encourage you to share this episode with them and a message about how they add so much steadiness and insight to your life.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: But most of all, that you'll let them know that you love them for just being who they are.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_00: Next week, you guessed it, we're gonna be back with what you need to know about the Enneagram Six.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_00: Until then, continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose, and plans for your simply wholehearted life.