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Talk Line: Gerald Lott shares updates from the Sauk Valley Voices of Recovery · WIXN AM 1460 - Shaw Local Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, Sock Valley.
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  Speaker 2: It's eight thirty seven on your Thursday morning, and you're
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  Speaker 2: here with the Waking Crew on FM ninety five one
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  Speaker 2: and A fourteen sixty WIXN and it's time for some
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  Speaker 2: more talk line. I'm joined in the booth this morning
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  Speaker 2: for at least the first time since I've taken the
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  Speaker 2: helm at the studio, Gerald Lot from the Sauk Valley
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  Speaker 2: Voices of Recovery, Gerald, How are you sarting?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Wow? How are you doing? I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 2: I stay dry here in the booth, so I hear you, man,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have to weather any rain.
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  Speaker 1: Is it finally a little dry out there? We had
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  Speaker 1: some showers this morning on my way to work.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's fine out now. It looks beautiful, beautiful skies.
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  Speaker 2: Good loving to hear that. So you had some important
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  Speaker 2: news you wanted to share this morning. You guys have
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  Speaker 2: an event that's leading up to something that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: special for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We have partnered with the Regional Office of Education
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  Speaker 3: here and are working or exploring the possibility of putting
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  Speaker 3: together a recovery high school in our area. In the
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  Speaker 3: lead up for that, we are showing a movie next
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  Speaker 3: month May seventh at the Dixon Historic Theater called Generation Found,
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  Speaker 3: which is a documentary about recovery high schools. There's only
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  Speaker 3: like forty of them in the country, and so this
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  Speaker 3: kind of is a week in the life of so
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  Speaker 3: that people can really understand it. Last month, I visited
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  Speaker 3: a school in Minnesota, the oldest recovery high school in
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  Speaker 3: the country, Peas Academy. Spent a couple of days there
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  Speaker 3: meeting students, meeting faculty, and then yesterday Michelle Sanders from
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  Speaker 3: the Roe was in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 1: At a school.
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  Speaker 3: Very different schools too. The one in Minnesota very laid back.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like almost a clubhouse, and then the ones
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  Speaker 3: she went to and your kids are in uniforms and
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  Speaker 3: you know, very structured. So there's a lot of ways
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  Speaker 3: to do this. But at our May seventh showing, the
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  Speaker 3: executive director of Peas Academy and Minnesota is going to
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  Speaker 3: come down kind of answer some questions about how the
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  Speaker 3: school works. And then we have some students from there
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  Speaker 3: that are going to be doing some art displays. The
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  Speaker 3: Partnership for a Healthy Lee County here has kind of
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  Speaker 3: helped us with some funding to do art shows at
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  Speaker 3: our documentary showings for the next few months, and so
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  Speaker 3: this will kind of kick that off with these students
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  Speaker 3: from the Recovery High School of Minnesota. So we're really
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  Speaker 3: super excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: So what exactly is a recovery high school?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly what it sounds like. It is a school that
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  Speaker 3: has built in a recovery system. And when I say
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  Speaker 3: that it's not treatment, right, we're talking about maybe a
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  Speaker 3: child who has gone to treatment and then they come back,
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  Speaker 3: or a kid whose parents have noticed that they're starting
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  Speaker 3: to go in that. I mean, we don't have to
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  Speaker 3: be you know, heavy heavy hitter hitters and drugs. I
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  Speaker 3: mean kids starting to use marijuana and maybe drinking beer
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  Speaker 3: and they realize, oh, this is becoming a problem. They say,
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  Speaker 3: we'd like them to consider going to this school. At
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  Speaker 3: the school, they have support meetings built into the curriculum.
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  Speaker 3: They have a drug and alcohol counselor on site. The
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  Speaker 3: students meet on a fairly regular basis in small support groups.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe five or six kids. They can get
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  Speaker 3: together and can talk about what's going on for them
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  Speaker 3: with relation to that. You know, the thing is Brandon
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  Speaker 3: for kids school is the bar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, it's where you go to social that's
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  Speaker 2: the only spot for your age where you're going to
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  Speaker 2: get everyone your age.
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  Speaker 1: And they're right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, sports, you could argue, but you've got a
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  Speaker 2: specific group of people, right Whereas just like that's a
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  Speaker 2: really good analogy, just like the bar, it's the one
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  Speaker 2: spot where you have people of your age, of all walks,
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  Speaker 2: all right, gathering around the watering pool, so to speak.
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  Speaker 3: And the water that's that's that's I mean, that's where
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  Speaker 3: most kids are getting drugs. That's where they're getting access
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  Speaker 3: to alcohol. And please don't hear me saying that the
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  Speaker 3: schools are bad.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: It's not anything about our local schools. It is every
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  Speaker 3: school everywhere, Yeah, everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Really.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the kid that gave me my first joint,
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  Speaker 3: we did it out behind the school.
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  Speaker 2: Right my first cigarette. Thankfully I quit a long time ago,
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  Speaker 2: but it was the same thing. It was a buddy
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  Speaker 2: at school Rock Falls High School along the s turf,
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  Speaker 2: that's where everybody went well.
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  Speaker 3: So, so so what we're doing is we're setting up
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  Speaker 3: a school and it's this one was small, but one
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  Speaker 3: I visited at thirty five students. I mean, there are
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  Speaker 3: already schools for specific things, you know, there's schools for
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  Speaker 3: behavior issues, there's schools for kids with you know, learning plans.
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  Speaker 3: There their school with you know, all sorts of things.
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  Speaker 3: This is just another one where a kid could elect Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'd rather be in this more open environment where it's
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  Speaker 3: not a secret.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, something where they might feel ashamed of and
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  Speaker 2: them less likely to be a part of it. Now
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  Speaker 2: I'm somewhere where everybody is like me to have something
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  Speaker 2: going on there, you know.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The the interesting thing when I was at the school
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  Speaker 3: in Minnesota, I walk in. I dressed up because I
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  Speaker 3: didn't know what I was walking into, and so I
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  Speaker 3: come in and I'm in this outsider in a suit
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  Speaker 3: and they put me into it. They say, oh, go
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  Speaker 3: to one of the small groups, and so I go
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  Speaker 3: to this you know, this session. There's about six students in
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  Speaker 3: this group, and one of the little girls, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is talking. She's seventeen, I think she's talking. And she's
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  Speaker 3: just like, well, you know, ever since I got over
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  Speaker 3: my eating disorder and you know this, and she's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I'm really happy. I'm celebrating. I lost
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  Speaker 3: sixty pounds and blah blah blah, and she's just letting
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  Speaker 3: out all this really personal information. And so afterwards I
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  Speaker 3: got a chance to interview the students and I said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm like, why you know you were comfortable
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  Speaker 3: saying right that in front of me, a stranger in
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  Speaker 3: a suit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, why not?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know, this is what we do.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They are just very open with one another, and it's
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  Speaker 3: really an amazing support.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and I don't have to hide. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: to you know, you can see me warts and all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's such a great point because by the
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  Speaker 2: time they are adults, you find this. I would think so,
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  Speaker 2: at least in my own experience, that most adults really
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  Speaker 2: have a hard time opening up and letting all of
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  Speaker 2: that that side of themselves out to lay bare. You know,
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  Speaker 2: your your problems, your your your faults, your faults, the
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  Speaker 2: things you're struggruggling period. It's it's such a bizarre thing
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  Speaker 2: that most most people, I really do believe are empathetic,
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  Speaker 2: but at the same time, we feel like we can't
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  Speaker 2: admit when we're struggling and we need a hand no
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  Speaker 2: matter what it is. But the more personal it is,
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  Speaker 2: or the deeper it goes down, the hold even harder.
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  Speaker 2: It is, so for these kids to feel that comfortable
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  Speaker 2: early on just really helps set them up for success
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  Speaker 2: later on, because they're already going to be comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the biggest thing that you can do. There
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  Speaker 3: is no when to ask for help? Yeah, right, And
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  Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, society builds us not to.
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  Speaker 3: It says, be strong, it says, don't you know.
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  Speaker 1: There's a stick house is a nation into its own truth.
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  Speaker 3: Right, It's so funny. You know, I'm involved in twelve
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  Speaker 3: Step and it's so funny. A guy in a meeting
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  Speaker 3: just yesterday said, you know, when I got sober, I
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  Speaker 3: was afraid to let people know I was get you know,
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  Speaker 3: trying to get help. And he said, and then he
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  Speaker 3: talked to some people and they're like, well, they probably
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  Speaker 3: knew you were drunk. You know, they saw that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: why don't we want to let that out? So this
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  Speaker 3: is what that school is. And yet you know, we've
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  Speaker 3: partnered with the Roe. It's it's going famously. We have
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  Speaker 3: a potential building. So we're working on what that might
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  Speaker 3: look like. And it's really about can we get the
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  Speaker 3: community to see how valuable this could be. We have
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  Speaker 3: an exploratory committee that's made up of some heavy hitters
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  Speaker 3: in town, people that can get things done, people from
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  Speaker 3: the legal system, people from treatment systems, people from education,
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  Speaker 3: a couple just regular citizens that are involved. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's exciting. So what we're hoping is people will come
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  Speaker 3: to the showing in May and understand what it is
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  Speaker 3: we're trying to do, because I've had questions, will they
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  Speaker 3: get a regular diploma?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Will they there forever if they want. You know, there's
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  Speaker 3: there's like so many things that people are going to
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  Speaker 3: want to know, and it's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 3: easier to explain it to them when they've seen Generation
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  Speaker 3: found and when they've had a chance to talk to
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  Speaker 3: Michael Dirshlot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I wish you guys the best of
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  Speaker 2: luck in that because I think this is something really
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  Speaker 2: important for any area, but very lucky for us. Considering
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  Speaker 2: how few of these there are. You said, there's like
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  Speaker 2: forty or less than forty in the.
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  Speaker 3: Country, correct, and there's none in rural right, So we're
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  Speaker 3: the first. We would be one of the first rural
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  Speaker 3: I think there's one developing in Massachusetts or Maine that
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  Speaker 3: is kind of rural, but they're going to be different
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  Speaker 3: because they'll be an overnight school, so kids will go
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  Speaker 3: there Monday, stay through Friday, go home. So yeah, we're
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  Speaker 3: kind of we're kind of cutting it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody asked me yesterday what had I noticed about our
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  Speaker 3: community or our work, and and I don't think people
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  Speaker 3: realize just how like progressive and cutting edge the Sauk
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  Speaker 3: Valley is with regards to substance use disorder. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we're we're doing big things here and the country is
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  Speaker 3: seeing it, and it's really cool, really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, I've been really, really pleasantly surprised to see the
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  Speaker 2: level that you guys try to take in this approach
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  Speaker 2: for this problem. I even think it's you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of more important even in rural areas, not just for
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you have less access to support systems
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  Speaker 2: like this, but you know, I grew up in not
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  Speaker 2: only around here, but single moms. We moved all the
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  Speaker 2: small towns, and the more rural it got, it seemed
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  Speaker 2: like the only option, you know, not the only, but
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  Speaker 2: some of the very few options open to rural kids
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  Speaker 2: when they wanted to get entertained was to be doing
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  Speaker 2: stuff we probably shouldn't have been doing. But you know
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  Speaker 2: that that's just kind of the way it goes with kids.
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  Speaker 2: So being able to to tackle this early on at
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  Speaker 2: such a critical stage is really fantastic to hear.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is. It is very much a symptom
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  Speaker 3: of boredom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, And you know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was just thinking as you were talking, like, there's kids
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  Speaker 3: in downtown Chicago and you say, what did you do
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  Speaker 3: this summer? And they say, well, I went and saw,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the stage production of Wicket. Nobody here is
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  Speaker 3: doing that, man, right, Our kids are just hanging out.
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  Speaker 3: Thank god. We've got video games. Yeah, but other than that,
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  Speaker 3: there's not a ton to do. I've been very blessed.
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  Speaker 3: My children are very into sports. Yeah, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: travel leagues and all that, but that stuff's expensive. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as much as we want to think,
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  Speaker 2: and I mean, it is always a good thing to
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  Speaker 2: get your kids into sports or to do something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the added expenses, You've got the added you know,
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  Speaker 2: practice times. We've got a son in school, who I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he gets done with school. He goes right into practice,
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  Speaker 2: and then he wants to be involved in theater as well,
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  Speaker 2: so he's going to rehearsal. He's not getting home till nine,
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  Speaker 2: nine thirty at night. I mean, so I'll usually stay
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  Speaker 2: up later to go pick him up. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting up at work at four in the morning. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and then he's getting back, he's still got
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  Speaker 2: to do class work to stay on top of it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's already struggled for the kids, for the parents,
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  Speaker 2: whether you have the time, you have the ride to
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  Speaker 2: get those kids there, let alone the meat. So I mean, great,
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  Speaker 2: great thing, but actually I agree with you. It's not
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  Speaker 2: something everyone's able to pull off. And then it's like,
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  Speaker 2: so what do you suggest.
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  Speaker 1: For your kids?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you man. So, yes, the kid that
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  Speaker 3: can't do that, it's got a lot of free time,
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  Speaker 3: and you know free time as the devil's play time. Right,
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  Speaker 3: But when you were just describing that about your son,
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  Speaker 3: my anxiety levels we're going out right, And so you know,
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  Speaker 3: I can see where a kid who is living that,
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  Speaker 3: because I've got one. She's doing the same thing. Get
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  Speaker 3: home ten o'clock after practice. Honestly, she's doing she's practicing
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  Speaker 3: two sports, right, She's doing volleyball and the basketball are overlapping, right,
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  Speaker 3: so she's two practices and she gets home and then
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  Speaker 3: she's got the pressure of the school grades and all that.
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  Speaker 3: You know. When I was that age, you know, come Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: if I didn't have anything to do, I was probably
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  Speaker 3: gonna blow off some steam in the wrong ways.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, same, you know. And the only time it
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  Speaker 2: was different was when I was involved with something. I
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  Speaker 2: was lucky enough they had a free boxing gym and
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  Speaker 2: rock falls, and so that got me out of I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I was I was partying on the weekends, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when my mom would be working late in the freshman year,
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  Speaker 2: and comes sophomore year, I was lucky the boxing gym
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  Speaker 2: was free for teens, and so I quit doing anything
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't have been doing because I was invested in
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  Speaker 2: what I was doing. But again, you're you're not always
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  Speaker 2: so lucky to have that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. One of the things
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  Speaker 3: that I found really cool when I was at Peace
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  Speaker 3: up in Minnesota is the kids have to be involved
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  Speaker 3: in some kind of group, and they have to have
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  Speaker 3: some kind of adult leadership and all that, and so yes,
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  Speaker 3: they were AA, yes, they were in a they were
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  Speaker 3: all those things. But there was one kid whose group
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  Speaker 3: was his travel hockey team, right, and his sponsor was
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  Speaker 3: essentially his coach, and he was in association with these
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  Speaker 3: other kids because the school said the kid just has
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  Speaker 3: to be involved in something positive. They have after school
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  Speaker 3: programs that kids can go to to box or or
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  Speaker 3: art or do a play or whatever. But this kid
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  Speaker 3: was going to hockey practice and then traveling around the
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  Speaker 3: country on this very competitive hockey team, and that was
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  Speaker 3: where he was finding that self esteem, he was finding
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  Speaker 3: that hope, he was finding that drive to stay away
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  Speaker 3: from the things, from the demons that were chasing him.
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  Speaker 3: And I just thought it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've always found and you know, I
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  Speaker 2: could talk with you all more than we're out of time.
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  Speaker 1: We've been over time, but we'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: But I've always found that, you know, you hear these
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  Speaker 2: stories like millionaires like coming depressed and bankrupt and everybody thinking, gosh,
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  Speaker 2: if I won the lotto. I mean, here's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: When you stop having a reason for doing anything, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a purpose. It doesn't have to feel like it's a
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  Speaker 2: holy calling, like when you've gotten nothing but downtime. Man,
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  Speaker 2: that leads to depression quick because it becomes like what's
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  Speaker 2: the point? Like it sounds great, but after the first
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  Speaker 2: week or two is sleeping in, It's like, what's the point?
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  Speaker 2: The point is what you do well?
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The The problem with addiction is not that I just
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  Speaker 3: can't stop having weigh too much fun, right, Yeah. The
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  Speaker 3: problem is that I've become hopeless. And once I become hopeless,
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  Speaker 3: then the question is why stop. I was talking to
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  Speaker 3: somebody just the other day and when she was telling
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  Speaker 3: me about a weight loss program that she she was in,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, if you're seven hundred pounds and you
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  Speaker 3: don't ever expect to lose the weight, why not have
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  Speaker 3: that next cookie?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly? Yeah, And what's gonna do? What's it gonna do?
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  Speaker 3: Right, you know? And that's where people get And so
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  Speaker 3: if my life is hopeless, if I don't expect my
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  Speaker 3: life to get better, then I'm gonna do whatever pleases
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  Speaker 3: meet today. And unfortunately, some of our teens are there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they've seen nothing that tells them life is
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  Speaker 3: going to get better. They're looking at five generations going
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  Speaker 3: back of problems. Yeah, right, so that's what the movie
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  Speaker 3: is about it. I'm sorry we went over time.
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  Speaker 1: I knew it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: I love heaven and I love that you guys are
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  Speaker 2: out there and given hope. Go out see this movie screening.
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  Speaker 2: If they need any more information, Gerald, where can they go?
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  Speaker 3: Just call us, go to our website. The movie is
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  Speaker 3: May seventh. It'll be at seven o'clock. The art showing
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  Speaker 3: is from like five thirty to seven. It's free, but
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  Speaker 3: bring a couple dollars to get popcorn or a pop
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  Speaker 3: because that's how we support the Dixon Theater. They've been
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: very gracious to partner with us. Every first Thursday of
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: the month we show a free documentary, So thank you
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: to them partnership for a healthy Lee County. But yeah,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: that's that's it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Man, Gerald, thank you so much.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on for all the information you
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: shared in the fine work you do, and I look
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: forward to future updates.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you, man.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Thank you