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Gov. Abbott targets new H-1B visa applications at state universities, agencies · Austin Signal

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement
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operations have been happening in
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Austin and Central Texas in recent
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weeks, and during this past
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weekend's weather event, local
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officials had to dispel rumors of a
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large-scale enforcement operation
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here in Austin.
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The lack of information and
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communication around these
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operations is causing panic and
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anxiety that can boil beyond social
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media. We're going to have more
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about that.
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And Governor Greg Abbott is freezing
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new H-1B visa applications
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until 2027,
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with some exceptions.
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The move is the latest in the
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administration's scrutiny of foreign
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workers employed at taxpayer-funded
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institutions.
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More about the order on today's
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show.
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The Austin Signal is a production
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of KUT News, hosted by
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Jerry Quijano.
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And we're less than a month away
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from the start of the new Austin FC
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season.
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We'll talk about the team's off
0:55
season moves today on Austin
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Signal.
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Howdy out there.
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This is Austin Signal.
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Thank you for making us part of your
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day. It's Wednesday, January 28th.
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I'm your host, Jerry Kehannel.
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Let's get started with today's show.
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While trying to get out information
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about the inclement winter weather
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over the weekend, local officials
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also had to put out information to
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dispel rumors about a major
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immigration and customs enforcement
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operation here in Austin.
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For more about how that situation
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evolved, we're chatting with
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Emiliano Tahui Gomez.
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He covers immigration and Latinos at
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the Austin American Statesman.
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Hi, Emiliano. Thanks for joining us.
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Thanks for having me, Jerry.
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Now, we know that there are real ICE
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operations happening across central
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Texas. We have seen that play out.
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What sparked the discussion about
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this planned major event that was
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supposed to take place in Austin
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over the weekend?
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Yeah, that's a great question.
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I think the source of these
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claims are
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still not completely clear,
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but we do know, I mean, I know that
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they were around at least since
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Thursday of last week.
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I know I started seeing them on
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Friday, although rumors and claims
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about ice being here or there are,
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as you know, very common here as
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they are elsewhere in the United
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States.
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But they really did seem to pick up
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steam this time. I mean they were
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shared by a lot of
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prominent individuals on social
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media and from food influencers to
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a prominent immigration attorney
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here in Austin, and they largely
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revolved around two claims, which
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were that one, that ICE had checked
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out a big block of rooms in
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a downtown hotel, and two,
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that people were seeing ICE
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arresting service workers after
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work on Friday night.
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And so, because those two
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claims were being so widely shared,
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and because they were such a similar
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claim, you know,
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we at the States began to kind of
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try to track that out and make sense
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of, you know why were these
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claims picking up a lot of speed and
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how much validity or soundness...
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Was there to them.
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And what did y'all find?
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We reached out to a lot of the
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people who had made these claims and
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were often told that it was coming
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from a friend that they had heard
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from, so a sort of chain of
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people having heard from other
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people.
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And then we began to reach out also
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to local elected officials.
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The first who spoke to me,
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Councilman Chito Vela, who you know
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represents the very immigrant heavy
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North Austin part of the city,
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and Vela said he had spent the whole
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Saturday as well after noticing this
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large number of claims, reaching out
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to people in downtown hotels,
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businesses, trying to make sense of
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things themselves. He's a former
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immigration attorney reaching out to
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other immigration attorneys and
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that by Saturday he was pretty
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convinced that those weren't true,
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that this had been information that
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had picked up a lot
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of attention because of the
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fraughtness, I think, of the moment.
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People were at home and people were
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turning their eyes to the news and
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seeing what was happening in
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Minneapolis. Absolutely. And as you
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and I know, Minneapolis for the
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last week has really been the center
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point of national tension.
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And we see extreme
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amounts of
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conflict between local residents
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and the large
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number of federal immigration agents
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that are there, and that has even
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led to the fatal killing of
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a man there.
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And amid all this uncertainty
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and misinformation, possibly on
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social media or this
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searching for real information
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from city officials,
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what do we actually know about if
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ICE operations are taking place?
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Do we know anything concrete in
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terms of those operations right now?
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Yeah, I mean, I should be clear.
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So then as you know, as you and I
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were discussing kind of what
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happened this weekend, the city on
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Saturday evening, the mayor,
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Police Chief Davis came out and, you
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know and tried to really hold strong
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and said, you know, we've been in
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touch with ICE. We've we've heard
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what people are saying.
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We have really tried to
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sort this out and we are being
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assured this is not happening.
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Right.
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But seemingly residents were not
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immediately assured by those
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sorts of statements.
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Right. And I think that speaks very
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strongly to the complete collapse of
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trust.
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That you see in a liberal city like
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Austin with the federal government
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and its communication, right?
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But I think that distrust
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comes from the fact that A, ICE is
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uncommunicative and has been proven
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by the media in many instances
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to provide inaccurate or false
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information, right.
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And I think it also comes from
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that fact that they are not wrong to
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think that ICE is in Austin.
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I mean, we've done reporting that
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outlets like yourselves have done
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have shown that ICE has very much
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been in the city through the past 12
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months. I think the strongest
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evidence that we see of that is
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their collaboration with
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the Texas Department of Public
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Safety, the state troopers,
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particularly in immigrant-heavy
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parts of the city, like the Rumbert
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Lamar corridor.
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I know we wrote last year about how
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they were consistently going around
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an elementary school in that
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neighborhood, arresting parents near
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that school and causing a lot of
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fear and really instability
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in that area because it led to
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arrests and deportations.
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But that is something if you were to
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go on to a Spanish-language
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Austin area.
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Social media page, if that's the way
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to say it.
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Like an influencer page.
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You will see that people are sharing
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these claims. I mean, sometimes
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those claims turn out to not be
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true. But I mean there are there's
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a lot of people taking videos of ICE
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very, very, very often with DPS
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in immigrant heavy parts of the
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city. So we know that DPS is
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contacting ICE during traffic stops
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in those situations.
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So Austinites I think are very
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correct to believe that the ICE is
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here, that ICE is acting, that if
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they disagree with that, then there
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is something to disagree with.
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You know, but we do not have not
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been able to confirm.
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Any sort of large scale operation
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that has ever occurred in Austin,
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singularly by federal immigration
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agents in the same way that we've
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seen in other large cities in the
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United States.
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Well, yesterday on our show we had a
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reported piece from the KUT newsroom
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with voices from Elgin,
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people who are affected.
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One undocumented person
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spoke on this story.
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I was wondering, what are
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you hearing from the community here
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in Austin?
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You mentioned earlier, you know,
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that trust that's being broken.
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And what else are you hearing from
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the people that you're speaking with?
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What I thought was very interesting
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about this weekend, going out and
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reporting about some of these
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claims, is a lot of these things I
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saw this time around, this weekend
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were on the English language side of
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things. They were people in the
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restaurant industry, downtown,
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people with social platforms on
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the english language side things.
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And I remember reaching out to a lot
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of immigrant activists who are
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Spanish speaking during the Austin
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area over the weekend.
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They always see these videos.
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And to them, the idea that they
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should, if this means something to
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them if this mean something to their
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loved ones, that they should be keeping
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up with this. Is always there.
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And so this particular
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rumor that I think a lot of us saw
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this weekend, people,
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a lot immigrants that I speak to day
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in, day out, are trying
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to be very aware of this,
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have already been impacted by this,
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are making difficult decisions as
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to whether,
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if they do not have legal status,
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whether it's worth being in this
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country.
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You know, and those are stories we
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see day in day out and we're trying
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to tell the statesman and I'm sure
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you all are as well.
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And what
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are you going to continue working on
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in the coming days, in the coming
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weeks? What stories are you focusing
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on?
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I think we're very interested to
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continue to document the economic
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effects that we're seeing on
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many immigrant families.
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I know that's something we're interested
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in at the States, but I know in some
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way this has already come out in our
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reporting when we've very often
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cover the arrests of
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men and families and in families
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where the man was the
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largely the sole breadwinner of a
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family.
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You see the complete collapse and
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how effective this immigration
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crackdown has been on
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putting people in very difficult
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positions, and that's very arguably
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the intent here.
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And I think that's something we
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think is very important to continue
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to make sense of.
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We know it's breaking people, but
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how many people are able to,
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in some way, make their way past
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this?
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And when are these final straws for
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a lot of the immigrant individuals,
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immigrant residents, immigrant neighbors
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that Austinites have?
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We have been speaking with Emiliano
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Tahui Gomez.
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You can read his story and more
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from his reporting at
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the Statesman.
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He covers immigration and Latinos
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there. Emiliano, thanks for coming
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on the show. We appreciate you.
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Governor Greg Abbott this week
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directed all public universities and
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state agencies to freeze new
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H-1B visa applications through
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the end of the next legislative
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session in 2027,
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except without written permission
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from the Texas Workforce Commission.
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For more about the order and its
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impacts, we're joined by Jessica
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Priest. She covers higher education
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for the Texas Tribune.
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Thanks for being with us today.
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Thank you for having me.
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So first off, I wanted to ask who
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is eligible for an H-1B
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visa and how are they used by public
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universities and state agencies?
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H-1B visas
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typically are people that
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have PhD degrees.
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They are for like specialty
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roles, and so I
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don't know about eligibility,
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but that's what they're normally
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used for in the university setting.
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People with
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H-1B visas are professors,
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doctors, really skilled
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researchers.
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So what is the reasoning behind this
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initiative from the governor that
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was issued yesterday?
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The governor, we got like a
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preview that he was thinking about
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this like a week, maybe over
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the weekend.
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Another news outlet had reported
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that he was asking the
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Texas A&M University system
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about their use
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of H-1B visas.
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And conservative news outlets have
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reported about, you
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know, Texas A& M
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system and the University of
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Texas system, spending a lot
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of money, helping, I
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don't know. Helping is the right
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word, but facilitating these, like,
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petitions for
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and employing people with
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H-1B visas.
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So I think the governor is
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concerned about the cost and
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also about the,
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he in his statement yesterday
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talked about how he wants these
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rolls to go to Texans.
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I mentioned that
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he is freezing these new H-1B
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visa applications, except
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without written permission from the
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Texas Workforce Commission.
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What else was included in this
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directive?
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The universities and state
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agencies that employ
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people with H-1B visas
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have to report information
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to the Texas Workforce Commission.
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They have to, like, report the
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number of people
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they employ, their countries
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of origin, the roles that
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they fill, so their job
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titles, and when their visa
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expires.
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He also wants documentation
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about Just
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so showing that they made like
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a reasonable effort to
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employ a qualified
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Texan for the job
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Okay, you mentioned numbers.
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What do we know about the numbers of
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H-1B visa holders here in Texas?
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Um, so I
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was getting a crash course on this
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earlier this week, but,
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uh, there's this great
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website, uh you know,
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where you can look up like employer
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data for, uh H1B
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visas and like
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The people who are the companies
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that employ the most
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H-1B visa holders
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are in the private sector, number
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one.
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But if you filter it in Texas,
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in the education sector,
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the number one employer
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is Dallas ISD,
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which isn't the subject of the
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governor's directive.
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It's just universities and
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state agencies.
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And so if you look at universities,
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the The number one
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is UT Southwestern
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Medical Center.
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Okay.
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220 as of
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this data that I'm looking at for
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September 30th,
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2025, followed by
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Texas A&M University and
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College Station, and then
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the MD Anderson Cancer Center
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in Houston.
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UT Austin actually comes in number
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five.
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They have 165.
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You mentioned those emails obtained
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that were sent to a Texas A&M
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University leaders.
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Have you heard anything from other
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public universities here in Texas?
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I reached out on
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Monday to
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MD Anderson and
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UT Dallas and UT
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Southwestern Medical
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Center for comment, but I didn't
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hear back from them.
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On Tuesday, after the governor's
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order came out, both the
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Texas A&M system and the
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UT system said that they would be
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complying with the governor order
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and they'd be sending him.
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The information that he wants.
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Okay, we only have about 40 seconds
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left. The last question I have, this
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sort of crackdown isn't just
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happening here in Texas, correct?
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No, it's also happening in Florida.
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Last year, the governor there was
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asking a lot of the same questions
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that Governor Abbott is asking,
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and he proposed the same
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thing, like a pause.
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But unlike here,
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the proposal is being taken up by
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the universities themselves,
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and they're going to be adopting a
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policy.
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Okay, that is Jessica Priest.
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She covers higher education for the
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Texas Tribune.
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We're gonna have more.
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We will have her story in the show
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notes for today's podcast and you
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can find it right now over at
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kut.org.
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Jessica, thanks for coming on the
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show. Thank you.
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And thank you out there for spending
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part of your Wednesday here with
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15:00
This is Austin Signal.
15:01
Thank you for spending part of your
15:02
Wednesday here with us.
15:04
So we are less than a month away
15:06
from the start of the newest
15:07
Austin FC season and
15:10
here to help us talk about what's
15:11
been happening this off season is
15:12
KUT's Juan Garcia.
15:14
He is one of the hosts of the
15:16
KUT Austin FC podcast,
15:18
Vamos Verde.
15:19
Juan, thanks for coming on the show.
15:21
Always a pleasure, Jerry.
15:22
So last year's team made
15:24
the playoffs, made a first round
15:26
exit, so didn't advance too far.
15:28
They had a pretty good
15:30
season, but every team is going
15:32
to look to retool in the off-season
15:34
and to revamp.
15:35
What did Austin FC really need
15:37
going into this recent off- season?
15:39
Well, the...
15:41
Biggest area of need
15:42
that most folks looked
15:45
for in the offseason
15:47
would have been some way
15:49
of improving the goal tally.
15:51
They struggled for stretches
15:53
on the year to score
15:55
relatively consistently.
15:57
Granted, that could have been
15:58
affected by many things.
16:00
Injuries, a relatively new squad
16:02
that was still gelling with one
16:03
another, but it
16:05
did come after a summer where they
16:07
spent a lot of money on attackers.
16:09
And so that was the area that I
16:10
think disappointed most folks in
16:12
what can be seen in
16:14
many respects as a season where they
16:16
met and in some ways exceeded
16:18
the expectations going into the
16:19
year.
16:19
Yeah, this might be soccer, but
16:21
we're still Americans, we still want
16:23
to see points on the board, you
16:25
know, that still feels like
16:26
translating to success.
16:28
And Austin FC made a recent
16:30
signing that they're going to be
16:31
announcing tomorrow.
16:33
Who is this person and is he going
16:34
to help score some goals?
16:36
He is a known quantity in
16:38
Major League Soccer.
16:39
He arrives in Austin holding
16:42
the record for the most goals scored
16:44
by a single player at
16:45
Orlando City.
16:46
Okay, that sounds good, sounds good
16:48
off the bat.
16:51
And he's an upgrade on
16:53
what the team had.
16:54
Ultimately, they made a move to sell
16:56
winger Osman Bukhari after a
16:58
couple, I think two and a half years
17:00
with the team, or
17:01
a year and a 1 half with the theme.
17:04
Bukkari arrived with a lot of
17:06
expectations around, you know,
17:08
being this dynamic winger that could
17:09
take defenders on one-on-one.
17:12
But his production never really
17:14
justified the cost of
17:16
bringing him in and holding him at a
17:18
premium roster slot.
17:19
Uh, so he
17:21
got shipped out to Poland and
17:23
in his place, they brought in
17:25
Fakundo Torres.
17:27
Um, this is a guy that, like
17:29
I said, has proven experience in
17:31
major league soccer, uh,
17:32
would slot into his role as
17:34
a winger relatively effectively in a
17:36
one-to-one. He's younger than
17:38
Bucari.
17:38
You're bringing in a guy who
17:40
knows how to score goals in major
17:42
league soccer. And I think that's
17:44
the.
17:45
Logic around this signing is
17:47
we need to score more goals.
17:49
So we brought in a guy who has
17:50
proven to know how to do just
17:52
that in Major League Soccer.
17:53
And scoring goals comes in
17:55
a variety of ways in Major League
17:57
Soccer.
17:57
Some people create their own shot,
18:00
some people are in the right place
18:01
at the right time and just know how
18:03
to put the ball in the back of the
18:04
net. Facundo Torres, what kind
18:06
of player is he?
18:07
Is he a finisher?
18:08
Is he creator? It's very
18:10
clear that
18:10
he scores goals more
18:13
than he creates them.
18:14
And that could be something
18:16
that gives some folks pause
18:19
in terms of like the expectations
18:20
going into the year.
18:22
The team had a clear need
18:24
to create more goals.
18:26
They weren't scoring the chances
18:28
that they were creating last year,
18:30
but in many cases those chances
18:32
weren't the best chances that could
18:33
have been created.
18:34
And so that's why there was a lot of
18:36
questions around whether they would
18:38
be targeting.
18:39
A player that's more of an
18:40
orchestrator, a chance creator,
18:42
rather than a chance finisher.
18:44
Instead, they actually went a
18:45
different route.
18:46
They brought in two
18:49
chance finishers last offseason
18:51
in Mirtuzuni and Brandon Baskes
18:53
occupying two designated player
18:55
slots. Those are the
18:57
premier roster slots
18:59
where the cost
19:01
of acquiring a player and paying
19:03
their salary, only
19:05
a certain portion of that is
19:07
actually going to apply to the cap.
19:09
So that's designed for teams
19:11
to be able to bring in more
19:12
expensive players with higher
19:13
transfer fees, higher salaries, and
19:15
still be able to field competitive
19:17
teams against other teams that
19:19
also have three or
19:20
four players that are being paid a
19:22
little bit more or cost a little
19:24
more to be brought in.
19:26
What they didn't do so far this
19:28
season is bring in a player
19:30
that is that chance
19:32
creator profile
19:34
instead choosing to bring a guy that
19:36
is going to slot into Bukkari's role
19:38
but they hope will score goals
19:40
at a much higher rate than Bukkarri.
19:43
That tells me that they're
19:45
comfortable with the players that
19:46
they have and with the system that
19:48
they have that they feel they will
19:50
be able to create enough
19:52
high quality chances consistently
19:54
for these players to
19:56
do what they do best which is put
19:58
the ball in the back of the net.
19:59
Well, a new season for Austin
20:01
FC means a new season of the Vamos
20:03
Verdad podcast, which
20:05
you host along with KUT's
20:07
Jimmy Moss. What are y'all cooking
20:08
up for this new season?
20:09
Ooh, quite a bit.
20:13
We're trying to approach things a
20:14
little bit differently, but for the
20:16
most part, what you're going to hear
20:17
is- What?
20:17
What what season sorry to interrupt
20:18
but what season will this be for
20:19
y'all show?
20:20
This is gonna be our third season
20:22
and, you know, we're
20:24
looking to maybe mix things up a
20:25
little bit, but not too much.
20:27
We're gonna try to put more of
20:29
a focus, more of an emphasis than we
20:30
did last year
20:32
on stuff around the
20:34
team. The artists that do
20:36
the heartbeat and the anthem and
20:38
that contribute to sort of the
20:40
culture side of building Austin
20:42
FC's relevance
20:44
in the city.
20:46
We're going to be talking to
20:47
artists, we're gonna be talking too.
20:49
Some of the new players as well.
20:51
Just looking to approach things with
20:54
a fresh set of eyes.
20:55
You know, we've done it for two
20:57
seasons now.
20:58
We're not trying to reinvent the
20:59
wheel, but we're seeing areas
21:02
that we can improve on.
21:03
And yeah, I'm really excited to see
21:05
what what's coming up this season.
21:06
We actually have an interview coming
21:08
up with someone who was on The
21:09
Signal earlier this week.
21:11
We'll be talking to Lindsay Mackin
21:13
of Annabelle Chairlegs in
21:15
this sort of early portion of
21:17
this upcoming season.
21:18
Very cool.
21:19
Well, we are excited for the new
21:20
season for Austin FC and
21:22
for Vamos Verde.
21:23
That is Juan Garcia, one of the
21:25
hosts of the show.
21:26
Thanks for coming on the signal,
21:27
Juan. Thanks for having me, Jerry.
21:29
And before we get out of here today,
21:31
we've got another update from the
21:33
KUT newsroom.
21:34
Texas Attorney General Ken
21:36
Paxton is suited Delaware-based
21:38
nurse practitioner, alleging
21:40
that she broke Texas law by
21:41
prescribing abortion pills to women
21:43
in Texas.
21:44
In the suit filed This week Paxton
21:46
said that the operator of the
21:47
organization Her Safe Harbor
21:49
has sent packages containing the
21:51
medications Mifepristone and
21:53
Misopristol to women
21:55
in cities including Beaumont,
21:56
Houston, and El Paso.
21:58
The suit references statements Lynch
22:00
made to media outlets, including in
22:02
a profile by the Austin American
22:04
statesman.
22:05
Her Safe harbor advertises itself
22:07
as a telehealth service that offers,
22:09
quote, safe private care
22:11
to women and all 50
22:12
states.
22:13
The action follows a cease
22:15
and desist letter the Texas Attorney
22:17
General's Office sent Lynch last
22:18
year.
22:19
KUT's health care reporter Olivia
22:21
Aldridge has more over
22:23
at KUT.org
22:25
and you can find more from
22:27
what we do every single day
22:29
at K-U-T dot
22:31
org slash signal.
22:34
That is it for today's
22:36
show. Thank you for making us part
22:38
of your day.
22:39
Thanks to Emiliano Tahui Gomez,
22:41
to Jessica Priest, and to Juan
22:43
Garcia for their help
22:45
with today's episode.
22:46
And as always, thank you to Rayna
22:48
Sevilla and Kristen Cabrera for
22:50
making Austin's Signal happen every
22:52
single day.
22:54
I'm Jerry Quijano.
22:54
We will talk to you tomorrow.