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Million Dollar Abie (S17E16) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Have a dollar same to you. I'll take our notes. Bulls Grampa,
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  no grum pass. If the bull dice, the crowd goes wild. If
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  grumpa dice, the crowd goes wild. Either way, we make a fortune
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  on souvenir sun snacks. Can we bring outside food? Not even gum?
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  Four finger discount dude, Welcome to four figure Discount, the podcast where we
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  all have meltmania. This week we are Hitter review episode jb F zero nine.
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  It is million dollars ab I am edo, I am guy and hmm,
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  what to say about this episode? Well, I was trying to be
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  enthusiastic because no, this episode was morbid and sad and depressing. I watched
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  this episode and I watched it twice, as I usually do. The first
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  time I watched it, I was like, yeah, Grandpa episode, it's
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  a story, blah blah blah. And I rewatched it and I was like,
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  doesn't really make a whole lot of sense the story and the topic that
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  you've got. You haven't really handed it very well. You know, the
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  issue of euthanasia should mean more than just be sort of like a subplot for
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  what eventually becomes Grandpa becoming mad at all. This is so weird and sad
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  and depressing, and I've got here. Grandpa tries to kill himself because nobody
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  apparently loves him. Right then we see him kill or when it seemed,
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  but he kills the ball. When that happened, I was like, wait,
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  he actually killed the bull. I could not believe it. I was
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  like, what, Yeah. I think we've been trained by particular TV shows
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  and movies or whatever. When you have a moment like that and someone goes,
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  oh, yeah, makes the big stamp thinking about it, does the
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  does the shot or whatever, it's usually like I could have killed you,
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  but it didn't, you know, because I'm the better man, or because
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  I've learned the lesson or something. I was like, Oh, no,
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  actually happened. Kill that killed that ball? M Yeah. Tackling topics like
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  euthan asia or a sister dying or and animal cruelty, I mean, and
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  blood sports and things like, it's like, I think you need to think
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  it through a lot more and I think you need to handle a lot more
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  sensitively than you did in this particular episode. I keep going back when I
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  think of when I think a Grandpa Simpson, when I think of Abe Simpson
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  an episode sort of arounding him. I mean, the one that always leaves
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  to mind is no, we've talked about the last and I keep remember getting
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  the actual tie of the episode, the one that ends with him getting the
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  inheritance and refurbishing the Springfield retirement Castle, so it's a decent place for elderly
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  people to see out their days and live there last years with that great final
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  line of bad dignities on me And I mean, that's a sad episode,
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  but it's also quite touching and it touches on some important issues, but it
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  also has its share of gags in there as well. It shows that it's
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  not impossible for a series like this to handle issues like those very very well,
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  and this episode sort of does in the opposite of that. It's just
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  not good at all. It's just what's disappointing for me is that it is
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  such a serious issue that could have been if it was handled correctly, explored
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  properly, it wouldn't have felt so annoying. But it's just this this topic
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  of yourthanations sort of part of this mess of an episode, Like, for
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  example, had the law not changed just before Grandpa was about to die,
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  Grandpa literally would have been dead and the family wouldn't have even known or cared.
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  And then we're supposed to believe the Lisa story, which she's like,
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  I've always believed in your grandpa, And I'm like, well, where were
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  you when he fucking needed you? Yeah. I was about to say this
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  is meant to be a touching moment and like, I've never really felt that
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  strongly connection between these two characters, though, don't expect me going to buy
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  in now. So I'm like, what I do is I'll watch these episodes
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  and I go set aside thirty seconds hit that time and try to come up
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  with a better story. I'm not saying this is better. This is all
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  I come up with, right, this is my thirty second thing. If
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  you just put us like thirty seconds, guys and fucking think about it,
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  you could have gotten something out of it. So I've just got you could
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  have had Lisa go to visit him, right, because she sees that everyone's
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  bad down on Grandpa. Could have heard Homer in Marge say something bad about
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  him, and she goes, oh, he probably needs somebody. She goes
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  to visit him, he's not there. She finds the card for the euth
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  and Asia place on this desk. She races to stop him, she stops
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  him, and then we get sort of like a healthish episode where it's like
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  Bart and Grandpa working together, but it's Lisa and Grandpa working together to solve
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  something right. That could be a nice story. Instead it's like no one
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  loved him, no one visited him, no one called him, so he
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  tried to kill himself. Any reason he didn't die is because the law changed.
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  And then he goes to see them and that it's like, what are
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  you doing here? What I don't know? And then later on the episode
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  was supposed to believe that, Lisa's like, I've always believed in you.
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  Now you're not helping me, and I'm like, you weren't there for him.
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  That was the whole reason he wanted to die. You've nailed it,
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  you really. I mean, this is just shodly constructed all the way through.
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  I mean even by the first half, before any of the assistance who
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  was or or mattad or stuff comes into it, it's kind of like just
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  just tonally and in terms of the jokes and the characterizations all that, there's
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  two there's two jokes in this episode and can I just point them out?
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  First, one having to tell your relative that you love them despite the fact
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  that they're gay. That's apparently a joke. And then the other joke is
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  ha ha, Lenny, you've got down syndrome. Ha ha. Why wait,
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  so the joke is that Lenny has down syndrome. That's that's your joke.
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  Well, he's missunder yeah, I mean he's caught up in meltdown mania
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  clearly, and you know he and Lenny, he and Carl, you know,
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  doing their tag team thing like I've got melt mania, I've got down
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  syndrome. I was like, oh, wait a minute, I should have
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  thought that, yeah, even him just saying oh I realized I just said,
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  oh you know him sorry yeah, or just yeah. Season seventeen syentims
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  would have said, oh, I should have thought that through, or just
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  or just don't do it or just don't do it. Well, that's the
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  other thing. It's also not not that funny. Let's go. It adds
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  nothing to this episode. Like, I don't know, just I feel like
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  having having down syndrome be any form of a punchline in any way, whether
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  it's putting down people, dancing down or not. I don't know. Maybe
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  I'm specting. Obviously I don't have it, but I've got relatives who have,
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  and I just watched that, going, does that really need to be
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  a joke in a Symptons episode? I don't know. Maybe I'm just touchy
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  about it, but I just I was. I watched that and went,
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  I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. Mister
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  Tim Long not a huge fan. Yeah, look, I didn't like it,
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  but I can understand how you could sort of make it work. So
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  it's a joke on Lenny, if you know what I mean. But if
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  people just say, for example, there's an eight year old out there watching
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  this episode and they see that, what would the eight year old think?
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  That's a good point. This is a fucking kids show. Kids kids don't
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  think that literally about the jokes. I know it's jokes for adults as well,
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  but the jokes that are distasteful in that sense shouldn't require you to have
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  to think about to understand it, because kids can't do that. So a
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  kid watching this who has Down syndrome would would feel bad watching this? Well,
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  yeah, I mean they would may well pick up that they feel like
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  they're the butt of the joke, which exactly, Yeah, so keep the
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  joke, keep the layer jokes the things that aren't going to be seeing or
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  could potentially upset the younger viewers. Maybe I'm just being touchy about it.
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  I don't know, but I just joke annoyed me. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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  give Tim Long and the Writer's room in the benefit of the doubt in this
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  regard. But at the same time, I think it was poorly executed.
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  I don't I don't think it was bad in in concept. I think it
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  was poorly executed. But then I don't know if I can forgive Tim Long
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  on the writers room for a lot of stuff in this episode, because it
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  just felt like an autopilot, or to use modern analogy, it felt ai
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  It's like, this is this is what would happen in a Simpsons episode,
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  this is what these particular characters would say. Let's feed all the scripts in
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  and see what it spits out in this particular scenario. And yeah, it
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  just felt I hate to keep going back over the same, you know,
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  the same things when we talk about season seventeen, But I mean, it
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  felt like it lacked heart and instead was just being a real sort of wise
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  guy or a real wise ass in terms of its jokes. It's like,
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  yeah, it's like it's yeah, like you're funny made whose jokes are just
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  really the expense of everybody else. Hey, that's me. But well,
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  for example, we'll bring up South Park right. When they take on issues
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  like euthan Asian and things like that, you can usually get a sense of
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  what Trayer might really think about the issue. But they do a really good
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  way of showing it from both perspectives as well, making both showing the pros
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  and kinds of both sides of the argument. Well, in this one here
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  you come out of it and you're like, so, what do the Simpsons
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  right to think about euthanasia? Or did you just think it would just be
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  a funny thing to just talk about if it's for ten minutes in a twenty
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  minute episode, you know, yeah, Or it's a way to get it's
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  a way to lead to Grandpa becoming a matter matter door. Yeah, it's
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  like, what are the circumstances would yeah, that would make Grandpa Simpson get
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  into a ring with a bull. He's got a new lease on life?
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  Why is he got a new lease on life? Because he tried to kill
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  him. Why did you try to kill himself? Because this happen, we
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  need we need one single solitary person to be the bullfighter. I'll be the
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  matta door. Grandpa will do it. And it's like what what what?
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  Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if you went to a bullfight in Spain or
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  Mexico or wherever, there's usually wall more than one bullfight per day, so
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  usually one more than more than one matter do all the day. I don't
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  know, never been to a bullfight. Is there's just one fight per day
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  or all these towns that people go for one fight and then it's over and
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  then because it lasts like thirty seconds. And the other argument is and you
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  can hide behind the whole while they're springfield and they're dumb. Right, that's
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  fine, you're going to hide behind that lazy argument. Go for it.
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  But why did they build the stadium before they had it signed off? Why
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  was the stadium built before the commissioners signed to the contract. I think they
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  might have actual precedence in real life. I don't think you would pump millions
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  of taxpayers money into a stadium if you hadn't had a contract signed saying that
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  it's going to be used. Look, I'm probably completely wrong here, but
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  doesn't get the feeling that there have been certain Yeah, they have a course,
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  of course, taken a few steps forward and exaggerated for comic effect in
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  this game. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. The whole thing
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  also about really sinking the boots into Springfield. I mean that whole Springfield Blows
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  song. I don't know, I don't know. I didn't even know what
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  to make of that. My argument to that, right thing is so as
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  company goes, it's come down to La and Springfield, because Ala sent in
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  this really great video, right, And the whole point of ALA's video is
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  don't choose Springfield, choose us. But how do they know it's going to
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  come down to those two while start making the video? The whole video was
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  the reason it got down to those two. Good A good nitpick there.
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  The whole point you chose Ala and spring was like Ala said this great video
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  and check it out, and the video is about how it's down to those
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  two. But how did Ala know it was down to those two? Yeah,
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  I mean, I know You've got to have a throwaway line in there
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  somewhere about la having a spy in the office or something. I don't know,
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  but and I'm just I've just gotten my notes. You compare this song
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  right to getting game with kids, like the South Park songs, you know,
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  compared to what this is. I was like this, like and Simpsons
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  songs are usually pretty good, usually pretty catchy. Yeah, and the Simpson
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  songs are like, they're usually awesome, but this one, I'm just like,
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  this went on and on and fucking on. It just went on.
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  Yeah. So just um, a lot of things just wrong with this episode.
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  I mean from the side show Mel camera, they're bad to begin with,
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  but then this is the thing. They've got a checklist now for season
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  seventeen. It's homophobic joke, Sacho Mel says something loud. That's every episode,
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  every episode. But even then it's like and he's like, oh,
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  Sacho Mel speaks like this, so he must be kind of raday. It's
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  an elegant or whatever. It's like, isn't your mother a common hoole?
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  It's like, whoa, I feel myself feeling like a broken record here in
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  terms of like this is a bit like family guy, Oh, you've taken
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  that out of the seth McFarland playbook. Now, you know, all do
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  you respect to Seth McFarland, who's you know, managed to create a little
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  comedy empire out of his particular brand of whimsy. But also he's the worst
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  fucking thing that's happened to when animation and a lot of it, but he
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  made it. He made a thing. Like what he did was he goes,
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  all right, what's the most popular show animated show at the time?
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  It was South Park, but also Simpsons. Right, everyone was talking about
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  the Simpsons. All right, if we're going to compete with the Simpsons,
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  we need to be the opposite of the Simpsons. So they did what south
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  Park. They did what Simpsons weren't doing. But then they sort of getting
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  They started gaining some some um steam and gaining some traction, and Simpsons were
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  like, oh, maybe we need to be more like them. It's like
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  no, no, no, no, no, no, stay not learn.
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  But they're the old they're the alternative. Keep doing what you're doing,
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  don't take the exit, keeps stay on the highway. So yeah, I
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  mean between that kind of sideshow mel joke or yeah, the angry textan who
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  quite frankly, he's starting to reach sideshow mel levels of wearing out his welcome.
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  What else is in there that sucks? I don't know, pretty much
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  everything just a very frustrating, disappointing, piss poor kind of episode. Million
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  dollars abe. As far as I'm concerned, I didn't mind the youth and
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  Asia story. I was like, this is a topic that I've never seen
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  a Simpsons take on before. But that's just the way. It just became
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  such a throwaway part of the story by the end of it. The youth
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  and Asia wasn't even discussed, just like like, oh, you know,
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  he's got a new lease on life and he's gonna live life to his force,
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  so he's gonna be a mad at or it's like, but is he
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  doing itally he's got a new lease on life? Or was he doing it
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  because he doesn't care about life anymore. He just wants to die and being
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  mat like, what's what's the what's your story here? It's just what is
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  your story? Does you want to live or not want to live? Yeah,
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  explain that. You know, I've got a new lease of laugh,
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  so I'm going to do all the things I never did, or you know,
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  I'm starting to feel depressing it I need to risk death to feel life
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  again. So he starts doing more and more risky shit, and this is
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  the apex of that. It's like I'm getting getting in the ring with a
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  bull, even though an old man who probably has got shit reflexes and came
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  over. That could have been like part of a montage or something, just
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  something throw away and jumping down a plane or whatever. Yeah, or if
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  we're gonna do like a euthanasia episode, this may feel a bit like cheating.
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  But have someone else from the retirement castle feel like, oh, I
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  don't want to live anymore. I've heard about this guy you know who brought
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  in the card, wasn't Jasper? Old Jewish guy. Old Jewish guy,
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  have that character who's not unfamiliar to the viewers of the shows. And I've
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  had enough of this, you know, I mean, give them a little
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  bit of a side. Plus, I don't have any relatives life, I
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  get it. Why am I even here? And have them explore the idea
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  of like it's time for me to check out, and it gets Grandpa thinking
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  about it to some degree, or Grandpa says, no, there's more to
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  it than this. You can you can. Let's let's let's do a piss
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  take on the bucket list. Grandpa could walk in and find the card or
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  something and Grandpa's whan it stops and then he get Grandpa helping your Jewish guide
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  go and do things that he wants to take off his bucket list. You
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  know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I think this episode. Okay,
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  when when did the bucket List come out? I think this episode predates
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  the bucket List? But we're two dozen six shook the bucket list. I
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  think bucket list is like twenty tens or something. Oh that like, okay,
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  let's have a look the bucke List two thousand and seven. Oh okay,
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  yeah, so it wasn't far off far off. The script, the
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  script for the buckle lists were probably circulating around Hollywood at that stage. You
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  could have ripped it off. Hey, hey, hey, the bucket List
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  directed by Simpsons episode guest are Rob Ryner. What the hell? Man?
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  Yeah, he knew about it, he knew, he knew, and he
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  let it happen. Fuck you, Rob Wrider. Oh man. But this
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  is the thing, right, this is the thing. Like I said,
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  I sweared anything. I set the thirty second timer, and I came up
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  with something that is phar more logical, and more enjoyable, and what leaves
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  you feeling like shit than what was delivered here. I just don't understand how
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  what was so important about Grandpa being a matter or did you just see the
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  design of the character and go that's going to be so funny. I just
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  don't understand. And Lisa's at the front and at the end when all the
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  bulls run out and Lisa's goes Grandpama rust set them free? Like, what
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  made you come to that conclusion? Why would you think Grandpa was the one
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  to set them free? Grandpa was the one that was killing them before.
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  What is happening? What is happening? Indeed my favorite? Did you have
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  any favorite moments from this episode, mister Davis? Okay, shocker, I
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  had a few another originally really relate to the episode. I just think it's
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  very important though, that we we criticize things when they need to be criticize,
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  but also we'll highlight, we'll find positives as well, but when something
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  doesn't make sense, it will be pointed out because it's just ridiculous that,
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  yeah, when something is off key, yeah you're gonna let them know.
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  Because I'm passionate about the Simpsons. You know, I grew up the Simpsons.
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  I love the Simpson I want the Simpsons to be the best. I
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  want the episodes that we reviewed to be enjoyable. But when you're delivering this
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  stuff, it's like, no, what are you doing? Okays? Yeah,
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  I love the Simpsons. I want them to be better. That's why
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  I get so angry when this kind of stuff happens. But what did you
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  enjoy? Simpsons? What I like from this episode? I'm an r M
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  fan from way back? Yeah, so if you if you play I Am
• 17:41
  Superman, um, Yeah, that's from I think it might be from Green.
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  It's a it's a great yeah it is. Yeah, and then nobody
• 17:48
  loves you John Lennon. So I got both their favorites there. Everybody's happy.
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  Ah, So yeah, quite happy with that. Another thing I'm fan
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  of is dour, downbeat nineteen seventies science fiction movies. So if you have
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  a prolonged tribute to soilond Green, as this episode did, where Grandpa ends
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  up in the suicide room, where hey, we're going to play a certain
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  kind of music and we're going to show you footage from there from the good
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  old days, Okay, that's all right by me. It's a nice twist
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  in Soiland Green of character goes into such a room. They play some lovely
• 18:22
  classical music and it's a really shihouse future and they get to show him all
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  this lovely nature. But it's like, well, this is really illuminating the
• 18:30
  message of this movie, and you know, making me feel a tear or
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  dope. My Grandpa Simpsons, the Glenn Miller and what hippies get beaten up
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  and I literally have mines. Guy will appreciate this. Guy did appreciate that.
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  And also another one third thing I'm a fan of is wordplay. So
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  I liked when outside the public meeting had said come for the agenda, stay
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  for the adenda. I really liked the battery dead and an assistant dead on
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  the commssioner's phone, and the Blackbrie. Well those things they died a quick
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  death, didn't they. Blacky. There's a movie out now. If you're
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  it's not in cinemas in Australia at the moment, but if you've got a
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  the PN or no scruples, yeah that's correct, called BlackBerry. And it's
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  a bit like because there are all these movies out at the moment about here's
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  how they tetris and he's how they did you know he's at the Great the
• 19:23
  Air George. How many people and how long do you reckon know are paid
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  to come up with that title? How how long were their brainstorming in the
• 19:32
  room coming up with the title for that movie? And how much do you
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  reckon it cost a movie company to pay these people to come up with that
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  name. But apparently this one's not bad. I haven't seen it yet,
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  but it's about the making of the BlackBerry. I always like those movies.
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  I mean, I really people a few of my friends had they had it,
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  but I'd like, for example, the Steve Jobs movie and things I
• 19:51
  find Steve Jobs movie is fucking great. Yeah, I'm going to the mat
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  for that one. That's awesome. Way the way he created the iPod,
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  it's just like an amazing story. Amazing, absolutely it is. Yeah.
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  Oh look, there's a lot to be said about about these movies and the
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  way they're told as well. I mean, i'd seen I've seen Air at
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  the cinema and we get it for the Four Fingered Scan Network. It did
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  into the Spider Verse sequel review. Let me show you something just real quick.
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  This is guys to do list for the weekend. Everything is crossed off
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  except record movie reviews of Spider Verse and john Wick four. So make that
• 20:30
  happen, pase, So I'll do that tonight. I am sorry about that.
• 20:34
  But just above that was spend time with Girlfriend is the title from what
• 20:40
  You've Taught Me? John Wick Snore, john Wick Moore, john Wick Please
• 20:48
  anymore? Uh yeah, But I mean I rewatched Air yeah, just the
• 20:56
  other weekend because it was like, because you're a pirate that No, No,
• 21:00
  it's actually on Prime Video now, Oh shit, did you pay for
• 21:03
  us? It just for free to watch? Yeah, it's free. I
• 21:04
  mean that's what it was. It was bought by Amazon initially, Oh wow.
• 21:07
  And then they're like, oh, we'll throw it in cinemas for a
• 21:10
  few weeks and see we can make a little cash off it. But then
• 21:11
  we'll put it on put it on Prime And you know, I was down
• 21:15
  at my sister's plays and I was like, oh, I don't want to
• 21:19
  think too much. I don't know if I've got enough energy to devote to
• 21:25
  something new. It was like er will do? And I rewatched it.
• 21:29
  I was like, yeah, this is really good. And I think Affleck's
• 21:32
  really smart in terms of like making just movies that are default movies for a
• 21:36
  Sunday night. But it's like, I don't want to think I trust these
• 21:38
  guys. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm Blackberries apparently in that vein about you
• 21:44
  know, the making of the BlackBerry, how do we get the BlackBerry?
• 21:47
  Because these BlackBerry died assistant dad correct, Oh man, sorry, I've really
• 21:55
  got to get more discipline when it comes to these dumber side tracks. Oh
• 21:57
  that's fun. The other thing really liked, there's nothing to do with the
• 22:00
  actual episode. I really liked the chalk gag. Did you see the chalk
• 22:03
  gag? The upside down chalk gag? Yeah? I was like, that's
• 22:07
  how has it not been done before? I was very creative. I liked
• 22:11
  it. Yeah, I thought I got a big kick out the chalk gat
• 22:14
  when I says somebout the episode on. One of my favorite moments is the
• 22:17
  chalkboard gag, which is usually some of them, some of them good,
• 22:22
  some not so much. This one not too bad. Next question, you
• 22:25
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  supporter. We try to give you as much content as possible. But mister
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  Davis, it's time now for some trivia. So what is your first question?
• 24:47
  My first question is how many slot machines are there on the Las Vegas
• 24:52
  trash barge? Oh shit, is it a lot? No, I'm gonna
• 25:00
  say seven. I'm gonna give you the correct anto, which is two two.
• 25:03
  Okay, I thought, like, what's a casino number? Seven?
• 25:07
  Yes? My first question is what are the three forms of death available at
• 25:12
  the euthan Asia? Say, no, damn it. There's peaceful death,
• 25:17
  instant, slow and painful, and megadeath. I knew there was megadeath.
• 25:21
  That was the one thing I did remember which was like, it's okay,
• 25:23
  I guess, um, what is doctor Egoyan's phone number? I didn't write
• 25:30
  it down? What was it? It client two two two two two two
• 25:36
  two. No, it is five five five zero three six two okay six
• 25:41
  two alright. My next one is who is sponsoring the bull fight at the
• 25:45
  end? Oh damn it, um, it's Taco Pronto. Taco pronto.
• 25:52
  speF your taco ponto. Yes, if when you don't want to wait twenty
• 25:55
  minutes for a daco, no taco pronto, ta pronto. I'm pretty sure
• 25:59
  he was the commentated from the soccer game that time, the one who was
• 26:02
  like overenthusiastic about it much happening at all? Ye, speaking of soccer,
• 26:06
  I don't I don't know who won the games pot football for all you know
• 26:11
  UK lists. Of course we call it soccer here in Australia. But on
• 26:15
  paramount plus they had the final between Man City and Man United I think,
• 26:18
  and like someone scored a goal and with like the first player of the game,
• 26:22
  like the first ten seconds or whatever. I was like, what's happened?
• 26:26
  What the good names happened to soccer? You know what I mean?
• 26:29
  You sure? You want? You sure? You weren't watching ted LASSA maybe,
• 26:33
  but yeah, it's literally if the patterns like the quickest score ever in
• 26:36
  history or something for Grand Final Final, they do it quick down in Manchester
• 26:41
  they do indeed. All right, what's your next one? My third and
• 26:45
  final question for you is, um, where did Mire Quimby meet Lloyd Bridges?
• 26:52
  Oh? Yeah? Was that an airport? It was an airport in
• 26:56
  Atlanta? What what? No? I wasn't hearts Field? Hearts Field?
• 27:03
  All right? And my final question is Luigi's is closed on which day of
• 27:06
  the week. Oh, it's the day of the week that most fish and
• 27:10
  chip shops are closed in Geelong. So Monday, Monday. Yeah. And
• 27:15
  someone told me this story once and I don't know if it's true, And
• 27:18
  you know, I did this quite often. Like someone told me this and
• 27:19
  it sounds true and I've run with it forever. It's that Monday's is the
• 27:23
  day and wish in which all the shops go to the fish market to pick
• 27:26
  up their fish, fresh fish for the week. I'm like, that is
• 27:30
  believable. I'm going to accept that as a true answer. I'm going to
• 27:34
  run with it for the rest of my life. But it is Monday just
• 27:37
  not a day the people eat fish and chips Like, it's always just Monday.
• 27:40
  Fish and chip shops are closed on a Monday. I'm like, there's
• 27:41
  gonna be a reason that every single fish and chip shop is closed on a
• 27:45
  Monday. And the logical answer is that's when they're going buy their stock.
• 27:48
  I'm like it kind of makes sense. But why you would have to be
• 27:49
  closed to buy your stock, I don't know. But every Monday, the
• 27:53
  fucking fish and chip shops are closed. It's weird. Is it light that
• 27:56
  anywhere else or is it just a geelong thing? Well? What day of
• 27:59
  the way in the UK listeners in particular, is there a day of the
• 28:00
  week in which fish and chip shops are closed? Because you know, fish
• 28:03
  and chips is fish and chips is like the big thing in the UK's it's
• 28:07
  their meal. And what is the fish and chip day? Like what you
• 28:11
  can in the show used to be the Sunday night thing, wasn't it?
• 28:12
  Fish and chips very from Sunday Sunday roast. Yeah, growing up in the
• 28:18
  Catholic house, I'll be you have fish on a Friday and yeah, sometimes
• 28:22
  you wouldn't feel like cooking fish, so you get fish and chips, but
• 28:25
  also from air. For me, particularly my late teens and early twenties,
• 28:30
  it's like Sunday night as fish and chips night. I'd be like, I've
• 28:33
  got a bit of a hangover and eat something greasy to sort of, you
• 28:37
  know, ease me into the week. I'm gonna squeeze some sauce on the
• 28:40
  paper. Oh yeah, absolutely, um so it's a piece of flake minimum
• 28:44
  chips too, dimmies. Stop off at the seven eleven on the way,
• 28:47
  grab a big bottle of water and a pack of Marlboro lights. Come come
• 28:52
  home and watch Beverly Hills nine two on the day of Special listeners. You
• 28:56
  should have seen the hier glee of guide has revenucing then good time. It's
• 29:00
  great classing kids. So Sunday night was your that was your nine two and
• 29:07
  o night? Was it that? That's what was on that night? For
• 29:10
  me? That was New Simpsons eventually became the Wednesday night in Australia, but
• 29:14
  when I was a kid, New Simpsons was Sunday night, and it was
• 29:15
  like and Dad would always own the TV on a Sunday night because we wanted
• 29:18
  to watch whatever was on Sunday Night. Becau Sunday night. They had the
• 29:21
  important stuff on it right, so Dad would have the big TV and we'd
• 29:23
  be in mum and Dad's room watching new Simpsons on out on my dad's bed.
• 29:27
  I never one of my most vivid memories of watching The Simpsons as a
• 29:30
  kid, it's being in mum and Dad's room when the new episode of Who
• 29:33
  Shot Mister Burns? Part two was airing for the first time, and my
• 29:38
  sister Stacy and I had spent like all fucking the summer or whatever it was,
• 29:42
  or the winter, whatever it's in Australia trying to work out who shot
• 29:47
  mister Burns. We had a little notepads and we'd written down things and I
• 29:49
  thought, I thought Smith's the obvious one, and we had it set in
• 29:52
  stone. I'll never forget. My dad walks in. He's like, you
• 29:56
  can watching Simpsons out there if you won no show. He's finished, but
• 29:57
  okay, and it's like, we find it. We're gonna find it.
• 30:00
  Who shops to Burns? Day goes? They said on the radio the baby
• 30:03
  did it? And I was like, Nady, why oh man. That's
• 30:11
  one of my first experience of a proper spoiler. It was so important to
• 30:15
  me that episode and the heartbreak of knowing who it was. I was so
• 30:21
  sad. But they said on the radio, that's already been on. We're
• 30:26
  like, no, it hasn't. He's like, yeah, they said on
• 30:29
  the radio, the baby did it? Oh oh man man, And we
• 30:34
  thought he was. And it was so illogical that we just assumed he must
• 30:38
  have been. Were like maybe, because then when he realized he spoiled it,
• 30:41
  he was like, well, I'm just bullshit. It's it's not the
• 30:45
  baby. So we're like, gonna be the baby? Is he telling the
• 30:47
  truth? I was, Oh, maybe it is that it is Smith's.
• 30:51
  For that little period, I was so sad. But yeah, can you
• 30:53
  remember your first spoiler when he was when something got spoiled for you that you
• 30:56
  were so excited for. Whether it was like so sabotage, we're going on
• 31:00
  social media or something like that, but can you remember a spoiler. That's
• 31:03
  a really good point because I mean I've done it numerous times for wrestling events
• 31:07
  where I've driven and waited all day to not watch or gone social media and
• 31:12
  then you know, he just But now it's just nature to bring your phone
• 31:15
  out of your pocket and you go on Facebook or whatever, And the first
• 31:17
  thing that pops up is the results, like so and so won the title,
• 31:19
  and I'm like, you fool, Well, it's thinking like I didn't.
• 31:23
  I didn't even put my phone out to go on Facebook. My brain
• 31:26
  just did it. It was so used to doing it now I've done it
• 31:30
  so many times. Stuff sabotage. But can you remember the first spoiler for
• 31:33
  you? It's literally going it happened a bit later than this than your spoiler,
• 31:37
  because I mean I was never really really concerned about it, and I
• 31:40
  can't recall all that many That sort of meant a great deal to me.
• 31:42
  I mean, I was lucky that I went into Empire Strikes Back and didn't
• 31:45
  know that that must have been so awesome. That was pretty rad. It
• 31:49
  was to experience that with so many people at the same time would have been
• 31:52
  such a cool experience. But here's the thing. Empire Strikes Back, I
• 31:56
  think started during school holidays and my birthday corresponded with it and didn't start in
• 32:01
  Geelong. But Dad drove me and my best friend JP up to Melbourne,
• 32:09
  so we got like the first screening on the Thursday that had opened, and
• 32:13
  we went to Hoyt Smid City in Berke Street. And I don't know,
• 32:17
  maybe Star Wars wasn't that big a deal for some people, but we were
• 32:20
  like it was a huge cinema. It felt huge to us because we were
• 32:22
  a little kids. We're ten or eleven, yeah, eleven years old,
• 32:28
  and we were like the cinema. There was maybe like five or six people
• 32:32
  in the cinema. But yeah, well that was the first screaming, first
• 32:37
  screening, and yeah, I think I'm pretty sure. My uncle Darren,
• 32:40
  he would have been fourteen, fourteen thirteen when the first movie came out,
• 32:47
  and he says it was just huge, like Star Wars just absorbed his life.
• 32:50
  Like, oh, he said Star Wars was massive, you know it
• 32:53
  really was. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it doesn't make sense,
• 32:57
  but I'm pretty sure that's how I recall it. Anyway. I recall because
• 33:00
  I bought a little Yoda action figure in the foyer. I think you've talked
• 33:04
  about this, and then I lost it in the cinema, lost it,
• 33:06
  yeah, and I was like, what the hell that that was a spoiler
• 33:09
  that spoiled ship for me, the first real spoiler I remember. It was
• 33:14
  actually like the sixth sense. I got to experience that with Nikola, and
• 33:17
  she didn't. In the end, I got to see her see her response
• 33:21
  that, yeah, that was pretty cool. But yeah, so you knew
• 33:22
  about that going and that's a shame. That's such a cool. Yeah,
• 33:24
  because everyone was sort of talking about these early days of the internet, people
• 33:30
  are talking about, well, just you know, you should know there's something
• 33:35
  to happen, there's a twist, and I'm like, oh, that sounds
• 33:37
  interesting. Okay, well, I don't really want to know about that.
• 33:38
  And then I was reading a related article. It wasn't a review of the
• 33:45
  movie or anything like that, but someone mentioned, oh, by the way,
• 33:49
  it's like we all know the spoiler for the sixth sense by now.
• 33:51
  Yeah. Yeah, but it's like, oh, okay, well that's m
• 34:00
  I mean. Then I still saw the movie, and I was still appreciated
• 34:01
  the movie, I thought, but knowing that I was watching going okay,
• 34:06
  oh, it's like it's like you watched the film. Everybody watched it for
• 34:10
  the second time pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I imagine I would
• 34:14
  have got at the end like everyone else. Though. My favorite twist that
• 34:19
  I remember being in the movies where everyone was just fucking gobsmacked and like no
• 34:23
  one saw it coming was sore. Oh, like Saw one. I won't
• 34:29
  spoil it for people know it. I won't. I won't spoil it just
• 34:31
  in case, you know, just in case someone that they wants to watch
• 34:34
  it one day. I know what it's like. But when that happens at
• 34:36
  the very end, remember everyone seen him, it was gone, oh fuck,
• 34:40
  look it's so obvious. How do we not see that? And it
• 34:44
  was just it was really cool. Yeah, and it's just sort of stuck
• 34:46
  with me. But I just yeah, this is yeah, this isn't so
• 34:49
  much a spoiler, but I do recall a twist like where I actually went
• 34:53
  like a crowded cinema. It was total recal. I'm pretty sure I talked
• 34:58
  about it, you know, yeah, don't let's say the actual spoiler.
• 35:00
  But yeah, no, this isn't even an actual spoiler. But it's more
• 35:02
  like, um, it's a development where you know, the guy comes in
• 35:08
  and says, oh, you think you're having this adventure of Mars, but
• 35:10
  guess what, you're still in the chairback at recall and I'm like, wait
• 35:15
  what, Yeah, I just thought that was fantastic talking. I'm a sucker
• 35:21
  for a good twist, and yeah, let's not spoiling for anybody. Hey
• 35:23
  guys, just a quick message to let you all know that if you're a
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  this podcast. But for now, sit back and enjoy the show. So
• 35:57
  the original airdate of Million Dollars Aby was April in two thousand and six,
• 36:00
  written by Tim Long, directed by Stephen Dean Moore. Our guest appearance from
• 36:04
  Rob Ryner and Michael Carrington as the Jock Center host. Number two chopboard gag
• 36:07
  was I will not flip the classroom upside down and it's actually upside down,
• 36:10
  which I thought was very clever, and the couch gag. One was the
• 36:14
  one with the Simpsons family are sitting down in the couch and it's TiVo,
• 36:15
  and I was like, tivot wasn't a thing here, But I don't remember
• 36:21
  still thing in America. We could just have like our Fox. Our box
• 36:23
  just does essentially what TVO would do. But I remember there was a point
• 36:27
  in time where being able to record TV was like such a cool concept where
• 36:30
  it was no video games. It was just recorded on your box and you
• 36:32
  could delete it. But you don't need it anymore. It was so awesome,
• 36:35
  don't we called the DVR? Just did it recording? We did get
• 36:38
  Oh my god, the modern world, What a world we live in,
• 36:43
  What a time to be alive? Yes, and they says delete the recording
• 36:46
  and delete the Simpsons. But the episode kicks up with the family watching TV
• 36:50
  and we get a gag about Carmen Electra and her boobs, and I was
• 36:52
  like, oh, that's a sign of two thousand and six. Carmon Electra,
• 36:54
  I haven't had that name another long time. She she was like,
• 36:58
  and I'll say this with in the nicest way possible, like gorgeous woman,
• 37:01
  but she was not going to say she was almost like the poor Man's Pamela
• 37:06
  Anderson. That's exactly what I was thinking when this and those exact words.
• 37:10
  We folks, we did not collaborate on this, but yeah, I'm not
• 37:15
  guessing a lot of people they're probably way But the fact of it is that
• 37:21
  we both thought, yeah, Carmon Electric, nice gal, but the poor
• 37:23
  Man's Pamela. Pamela kind of cornered the market on Guru A Ruger, That's
• 37:31
  yeah, I mean, and yeah, the the exaggerated blonde bomb shelter up
• 37:37
  and Carmon Electrics going. We couldn't afford Pamela rans and the Carmans free.
• 37:40
  Oh yeah, cool, that's fine. Yeah, and she she seemed I
• 37:45
  no more racy than Pamela. Pamela had a sex tape and stuff like that,
• 37:49
  but carmea elected to see what she'd be up for. Nathan True.
• 37:53
  I'm trying to recall if she was like a Prince protege, because Prince said
• 38:00
  this phase where he was like, yeah, I'll help you get a recording
• 38:04
  contract or whatever. The Purple rainstar dated a bevue Beautiful sales throughout his life,
• 38:07
  including Kim Bassenger, Shila E, and calm An Electra. The relationship
• 38:12
  came to an end in the early nineteen nineties. Come and want to live
• 38:15
  in la and Prince wanted to stay in Minnesota. Prince wanted to stay in
• 38:21
  Minnesota. It's just not what I expected. He Yet, we build Paisley
• 38:24
  parkins like I don't need to live, you know, I want to hang
• 38:28
  around, purify myself in the waters of Lake Netonka. They're talking about Jock
• 38:32
  Center here and they're announcing they're going to have a new football team and they're
• 38:37
  looking for a new place to bring it. And Lesa says, we only
• 38:39
  known for the place that has the most heart attacks, and we get a
• 38:42
  clip of Nelson and Moment having heart attacks. The home avows to make it
• 38:45
  happen, and everybody laughs at him, and even Maggie bald Mummy is short
• 38:49
  to fail. Then a random gag so cut too like the exterior of the
• 38:53
  house, and we hear various sounds of Homer building is whatever it is,
• 38:59
  and then there's a sto sort of payoff for the sounds that we hear.
• 39:01
  It was odd, yeah, but here's the thing I mean within that is
• 39:07
  kind of like the germ of an Okay gang, where it's like you hear
• 39:10
  various sounds of work, and then you hear the pinball machine. It's like,
• 39:14
  I can't be asked work anymore time to play pinball? But then you
• 39:16
  have to put a hat on a hat on a hat with all this?
• 39:20
  What was the other ship? It was like European siren and something else.
• 39:23
  It's always like one too fair. He's come, that's kind of singing,
• 39:28
  yeah, the ringer ring of rosy. Someone's like, yeah, fuck was
• 39:30
  the point of that? You know? You had a perfectly good joke and
• 39:32
  ye and yeah, screw it all up? Why is that happening? Where's
• 39:36
  that coming from? What's I'm like, what's the payoff going to be for
• 39:37
  this? Are the reason the payoff? What? What's happening here? But
• 39:42
  Marge goes down, she finds Homer after a week, he's been working on
• 39:44
  this thing and he's actually put together a pretty good pitch. He's built the
• 39:46
  stadium and he's built there, got the d arama of the players and everything
• 39:51
  like that. It's not bad. Um, No, Homer do good.
• 39:53
  And he's called the team the Springfield Meltdowns. The various sponsors of the of
• 39:58
  the model on the model there, and he's like Sponsor Sponsor spontsor spontsor a
• 40:01
  stupid Flanders park and Marge pretty attraction to me, and she can't believe he's
• 40:06
  done all this hard work, so she pounces on him. But first of
• 40:07
  all, she says, would you mind brushing your teeth? And I've got
• 40:09
  here. Have you ever kissed somebody who had bad breath? And did you
• 40:14
  a tell them or be just run with it because he just really wanted to
• 40:15
  kiss them. I'm normally the one with a bad breath. Yes. Has
• 40:20
  any ever told you to brush your teeth? Kiss them? Oh? Yeah,
• 40:22
  the love of the weed has many times. And I'm like, I
• 40:24
  was gonna it's happened to me once and I kiss Nick and Nicholas like you
• 40:28
  brush your teeth today, and I was like, oh man, now,
• 40:30
  breath complex. It's like, yeah, I certainly will from now on.
• 40:32
  Yeah. No, But I mean it's one of the things I tend to
• 40:37
  be fairly conscious of or sensitive about. So usually if I wake up,
• 40:44
  I'm going to run into the bathroom, you know, do a little plexing
• 40:47
  so that minty fresh. Yeah, because you don't want to be hit hitting
• 40:57
  up your lady love with dragon breath Oh hi, I'm Rob Reiner, director
• 41:05
  of When Harry Met Sally. I'll have what she's having was one of the
• 41:08
  lines. I'm here to tell you why you should choose La over Springfield.
• 41:15
  La has the beach, a thriving music scene, and the beautiful Getty Museum.
• 41:20
  Springfield has a pounahasapia pedal on. Hollywood takes in talented actors and writers
• 41:32
  from all over the world. Springfield takes in garbage from other cities. But
• 41:45
  don't just take my word for it. Some of Hollywood's biggest stars have taken
• 41:50
  the time to sign waivers, allowing celebrity impersonators to sing in this video.
• 41:57
  Enjoy the song a lot even funny, no, no, terrible. But
• 42:30
  they're going through like a we are the world Like they do this perfectly in
• 42:34
  Radio bart right, it doesn't work in this one. This one is just
• 42:37
  what lazy And I don't know if the lazies this is meant to be the
• 42:40
  point. It's like, these guys are no competition and we'll just say they
• 42:44
  suck, and it goes on and on and on and on, and then
• 42:46
  it just gets to them going we hate La. We weren't gonna get them
• 42:50
  a team, and I'm like, then, why was it down to those
• 42:52
  two? Yeah? By the way, one thing I did like about Rob
• 42:55
  Ryana's guest performance of facing all the stars on Hollywood Boulevard, even his own
• 43:02
  dad's by putting Rob over Carl Rhiner and Rhina over Roblow. Oh it was
• 43:08
  pretty funny, was Rob blow? He was back into good books by this
• 43:10
  point. Wasn't because he had west Wing and things like that. Yeah,
• 43:14
  the early night, wasn't it. Yeah, late eighties or early nineties where
• 43:16
  he sort of went off there because because it was Prey Wainsbow. Wasn't it
• 43:20
  because Wainswell was like his comeback? Wasn't it a little bit of a comeback?
• 43:22
  Yeah? I mean he in the in the lifespan of celebrity scandals,
• 43:29
  his was fairly brief and burned out fairly quickly. Yeah. The upshot of
• 43:32
  it was he was at some political rally and think he had a freeze threesome
• 43:38
  which was taped with a couple of young women who turned out to be young
• 43:43
  women. That's the issue, all right. Yeah, when I say young,
• 43:46
  I mean like sixteen, and that's that's young. And but also they
• 43:52
  may have been the age of consent in that particular area, but it's all
• 43:55
  still like Rob come on man, and yeah he was off the radar for
• 44:00
  a little while, but yeah, then bounce back. Where do you play
• 44:02
  in Wayne's World? He was like that, I forgot the character's name,
• 44:05
  but he was like the TV exact, wasn't he? The t was it
• 44:07
  TV exactly? It wasn't he? Yeah. I have revisited Wayne's World for
• 44:09
  a long time, and Nicholas never seen now. So we've got to watch
• 44:14
  that movie one day because I used to love it when I was another teenager.
• 44:16
  I don't know whether they watching. They're both not bad. I think
• 44:20
  waynes World two was actually pretty good. I've never seen waynes World two.
• 44:22
  I own, I owned waynes World, I've never watched it. Waynes World
• 44:24
  two is pretty good, Okay. I got a bit of a soft spot
• 44:28
  for I mean a lot of those SNL movies from the nineties and early two
• 44:31
  thousands, a junk cone Heads. I used to like cone Heads when I
• 44:35
  was a kid. I've never revisited. I'm going to leave it that way
• 44:37
  because I feel like it's probably a bad movie, but I used to.
• 44:39
  I used to like the cone Heads movie when I was Younger Ladies Man.
• 44:43
  I didn't mind that there was a character played by Tim Meadows from Walk Card
• 44:50
  and Mean Girls. He's basically just this like pimpy ladies man kind of guy
• 44:55
  who has like a late night talking Talkbauck radio show where he's answering sexy questions
• 45:00
  and he's usually like, oh, yeah, that sounds real sexy. You
• 45:04
  will lead it. Oh, I don't know. They were able to spin
• 45:07
  a movie out, but it had musical numbers and everything wasn't too bad.
• 45:10
  At the Roxbury that was another one. The Roxbury. Um, yeah,
• 45:15
  they went through a stage where they all these kind of one note characters got
• 45:20
  movies. Yeah, it never happens anymore. I felt. The last person
• 45:23
  to sort of get anything out of that was maybe Um Sandberg. He was
• 45:27
  sort of the last little SNL started to sort of break out and do his
• 45:30
  own thing. Do you think got his own show? Now? What?
• 45:32
  He was dating Kardashian recently. What's his name? Oh, Pete Davidson.
• 45:37
  Pete Davidson. But he's probably the breaker. Kate McKinnon, I guess yeah.
• 45:40
  I mean a few have gone on to do other things. I mean,
• 45:45
  yeah, Kate McKinnon's not unpopular. She's in the Barbie movie that's coming
• 45:47
  up. One of one of my favorites from sl was as a woman called
• 45:52
  Cecily Strong. She's fantastic, and she's on a show called Smickadoon on Apple
• 45:58
  TV's sort of a musical. She's great. But now that it's not really
• 46:01
  making the stars the way it used to. Nah, But we can sume
• 46:05
  TV differently as well. Now. I mean I feel like sort of lives
• 46:08
  by clips on YouTube as opposed to people sitting down on a Saturday and all
• 46:10
  watching s and l at the same time. Yeah, much like tonight shows.
• 46:15
  Yeah exactly. I can't remember the last time I actually sat down and
• 46:17
  watch the full episode of a talk show when now it's like someone said a
• 46:22
  little three minute clip on YouTube, Ill watch that, but I won't sit
• 46:23
  down and watch the full episode. But yeah, So they've got the Springfield
• 46:28
  blow song, which is no good. They all hate them. Maybe at
• 46:30
  the rich text and saying he's just he's sad because he has to go tell
• 46:32
  his gay grandson that he still loves him even though he's gay, And I
• 46:36
  was like, what was he sad to say? I couldn't. It didn't
• 46:39
  even feel like a gay. Well, he was like, I've gotta go
• 46:42
  tell my grandson that I love him, even know that he's gay. I'm
• 46:45
  okay, Alway says I can go tell my gay grandson that I still love
• 46:50
  him. It was the tone for me. It was the tone of all
• 46:53
  his texts, and so he would be opposed to homosexuality, So of course
• 46:57
  that's the thing. I just didn't. It just felt weird, not necessary
• 47:01
  to me. But then we get the news report for the announcement. This
• 47:05
  is Kent Brockman Alive, a Duff Beer, Krusty Berger, bos Cola,
• 47:07
  Costington's department store, Quickie Mark, Stupid Flanders Park. In just one hour,
• 47:10
  the Commissioner of Football will arrive to sign the contracts necessary to make Springfield
• 47:15
  the home of Pro Football's newest team, The Meltdowns. I've got melt maybe
• 47:21
  I like dawn syndrome. In honor of the Commissioner's visit, the city has
• 47:25
  been repainted in the team colors at all the streets whimsically renamed Dutchdown Avenue delightful.
• 47:32
  Who are you talking to your imaginary girlfriend? No, it isn't your
• 47:37
  mother a well known how No, you win this round? Mal, someone's
• 47:45
  like they have now acknowledged that he yells at in every episode because the joke
• 47:47
  is Jimbo saying, who are you talking to? Dude? Why are you
• 47:51
  speakulate this when there's no one else around? It's like, what are you
• 47:53
  doing? Yeah, a lot of these gangs just sort of had extra bits
• 47:57
  that didn't really add anything or to tracted from what went beforehands like, yeah,
• 48:01
  just cut it off it who are you talking to? Because if the
• 48:05
  rebuttal is, isn't your mom a whore? You in this round? Mal?
• 48:07
  I'm like, that's the joke. Come on, that's if that's the
• 48:12
  page, that's the payoff and the set up just isn't required in my opinion.
• 48:15
  Then Bob Armstroump he is late for the contract signing and he can't find
• 48:20
  the place because Springfield change all the street names too. I thought that's I
• 48:22
  thought that was okay, that it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I
• 48:25
  didn't mind that he's late, But he's batch's died in his phone and his
• 48:30
  assistant's dead. So he goes to the Simpsons house and Grandpa's there watching that,
• 48:34
  watching Maggie's that what he's watching watching Maggie's that way he's there. I
• 48:36
  know he's supposed whatever reason, and he wants to use the phone slash the
• 48:39
  bathroom by the way, a quick nitpick. I know this is usually your
• 48:43
  area, but they give you an image of the crowd, Rainy a Wolfcastle
• 48:49
  shouldn't be in the crowd is to be like a corporate box or something.
• 48:52
  That's true. Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, it's just anyway.
• 48:54
  But Grandpa he sees the news story about Snake, and Snake's talking about when
• 48:59
  he breaks in the people's as he pretends to used to phae in the bathroom.
• 49:00
  So Grandpa thinks that the commissioner is there to try and steal their gold,
• 49:06
  steal their money, so he hits him with the golf club. There's
• 49:07
  had an idea for a gag in that forty eight minutes thing where it's like
• 49:10
  we spoke to someone about, you know, bashing old people over the head
• 49:15
  or whatever. Do that thing on Current Affair shows where you blur out someone's
• 49:17
  face so you can't see who they are, but it's Snake's voice. Yeah,
• 49:21
  and you just know it. I was like having to say, like
• 49:24
  premium or dude, having said do you know, like how do you know
• 49:30
  how can you tell? I mean, how can you not tell? There's
• 49:31
  a snake? Anyway? Yeah, hit him with the golf club, and
• 49:35
  I'm doing what I can to help you. Simpsons episode You Need It.
• 49:37
  We cut back to the crowd and Wigams telling bad Joseph try and store for
• 49:40
  time until the commissioner arrives. He's resigning a poem. I don't know what
• 49:44
  it is. It's like a poem about ancient Native Americans or something. Okay.
• 49:49
  The family then arrived home. They find the commissioner all tied up and
• 49:52
  he storms out, and then we get a really mean, sad line from
• 49:58
  Homer. Here he goes, you're a useless old man, and I'm like
• 50:00
  that, It's just like, I don't know that was that was. And
• 50:07
  because that line was there backed up with nobody loving him and him resorting to
• 50:10
  suicide, what the fuck kind of morbid shit is this? It was simple,
• 50:17
  you're useless old man. We left me with the baby. You left
• 50:21
  me with a baby. They kind of end with a gag there, but
• 50:22
  I just thought you were a useless old man. There's no jokes there.
• 50:27
  It's just a real mean spirited line from that just I don't know didn't work
• 50:32
  from me. Now you could say that it's it's valid or that it's necessary
• 50:37
  for the story in terms of well it makes Grandpa to press and he thinks
• 50:43
  about ending at all. But again, it's a matter of how it's handled,
• 50:46
  how it's presented, how it's yea, all that kind of stuff.
• 50:49
  But yeah, Grandpa has to feel low. But yeah, I mean to
• 50:52
  do it this way, it kind of feels not so much like, oh
• 50:57
  well, this will get us moving to the next man. That's just something
• 50:59
  you don't come back from. Yeah, And then it's just like they would
• 51:02
  have the argument, Wow, well Marge told her to call him, but
• 51:06
  but you got distracted by the phone, you know that the movie survey or
• 51:08
  whatever it was. And I'm like yeah, but then no one thought to
• 51:13
  go, oh well, let's just call him up again, you know,
• 51:15
  like, okay, home, we got distracted. But where was anyone?
• 51:17
  Why why didn't Marge call? And what didn't lesa go seeing wouldn't like no
• 51:21
  one cared about Graham but to the point where we want to commit suicide and
• 51:23
  had the lockers that, had the law not changed, he'd be dead and
• 51:25
  they wouldn't have even realized. Very true. Also, as we said earlier,
• 51:30
  you know, it's just a missed opportunity where Lisa should be the only
• 51:35
  one who cares about him. So at the end it feels like it's cause
• 51:38
  an effect. Yeah, but by the way, Chief Wiggins is reciting the
• 51:43
  song of Hiawatha by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, which is also a name for a
• 51:49
  part of My Anatomy. I wanted to also point out that this episode was
• 51:52
  rated M in Australia because of the themes of M Yeah, you would fifteen
• 52:00
  in the UK. So everyone now hates Grandpa. Get the montage with John
• 52:04
  Lennon's Nobody Loves You when You're Down and Out, which is a great song.
• 52:07
  Even the Denchers won't smile at Grandpa anymore. No one likes him.
• 52:09
  The old Jewish guy arrives and he spits on him, and then he gives
• 52:13
  him the card for the euthan Asia doctor and Grandpa says he wants to grab
• 52:16
  a bit of dignity slipping in the shower and they find him more blood.
• 52:20
  Just so, I don't know, it's a different whether he's a human or
• 52:22
  a couch. Mister Simpson, you are a good candidate for assisted suicide.
• 52:30
  I think you're cute too, but killing yourself isn't as easy as putting on
• 52:35
  an ugly sweater like you did today. I want you to carefully think about
• 52:37
  this for twenty four hours. Oh, I see. You want me to
• 52:42
  reconsider whether or not I really should give up my life. Yeah, and
• 52:46
  we're cleaning out the death machine today. A lot of gun gets stuck in
• 52:51
  it. Grandpa says that he will decide to live if he gets a phone
• 52:54
  call, and Marge told him to call. He's about to call, but
• 52:57
  he gets the movie Sovey the questionnaire gets distracted, and another whole day goes
• 53:00
  by, and Grandpa decides he's going to kill himself because no one has called
• 53:05
  him and no one likes him anymore. He feels like a useless old man.
• 53:07
  As Homer puts it. We're now at the clinic and he says he's
• 53:10
  gonna be hooked up to the dipod, which which now is nostalgia because the
• 53:14
  iPod isn't a thing anymore. Correct. I remember a news article about Apple
• 53:19
  have discontinued the iPod, and I was like, that's sad. I mean,
• 53:22
  they're not necessary anymore. They're still sad. You know, it's still
• 53:25
  kind of I don't know. I like them. I like the idea of
• 53:30
  them. Yeah, but I mean I know we're all listening to him through
• 53:34
  our phones, and it's like, I like the idea, just a little
• 53:36
  device, it's just for that unnecessary, but I can understand why people will
• 53:38
  still have that connection to him because that's what they've Or even the Mini,
• 53:43
  I mean I used to like I had a Mini that I really dug.
• 53:45
  I hated the minis because you couldn't have as much. I used to like
• 53:47
  having the info. To me, it was a big deal having like the
• 53:51
  album cover and the song information. I was like, this is like my
• 53:53
  little collection here in my little in my pocket. And then I used to
• 53:57
  sit there for ages, like updating the titles and the writers and having the
• 54:00
  album covers, and there's a big deal to me. When iPads iPods first
• 54:04
  had the color, it was like whoa, it was like a new world.
• 54:07
  But just hearing that, you know, the iPods they're gone, I
• 54:09
  can imagine it'd be almost like when you read the article about the VCRs being
• 54:14
  discontinued. Yeah, oh absolutely, and or even d going to JB and
• 54:19
  like we were on the Blue Beach. You go j being there, like
• 54:22
  would you like it free Blue Bay when you enter the store, and I'm
• 54:24
  like, not really actually what they did, but I'm just like they can't
• 54:30
  give them away now, you know what I mean. It's just I mean,
• 54:31
  I they had a buy won't get one free sale and I looked through
• 54:37
  everything and I went, there's nothing. There's nothing. The other thing was
• 54:40
  I mean, yeah, because I saw that same thing because we were sort
• 54:43
  of negotiating that if you want one, I'll go pick yeah, because if
• 54:45
  you want one, then you get one and all that other I found two
• 54:49
  that I wanted and it was like not available for clicking collecting your local stores.
• 54:53
  I want to pay for posts. I'm what's the point. I'm like,
• 54:58
  how a bad fuck you? Yeah. I'm like, I'm not saving
• 55:00
  anything because I'm gonna be posting it anyway. Yeah, so god, hell
• 55:05
  yeah. It's like they've they don't stop. But I'm not happy they don't
• 55:10
  stock their stores anymore with like older, older films, And I'm like,
• 55:15
  I know you can. It's happening. Like we're on the right track.
• 55:19
  We're on the track now. They will be gone soon. You do realize
• 55:22
  this like, I think we have both both have to accept physical media will
• 55:25
  be gone. And the next time, the other day we lost our Telsia
• 55:31
  fucked up our internet and we couldn't get internet right, We couldn't stream anything.
• 55:35
  And Eliot's like, I want to watch Space Jam. I'm like,
• 55:37
  we can't make it. We can't because fucking Netflix isn't working. I'm sorry
• 55:42
  like that, He's like, we make it work. I'm like, it
• 55:44
  doesn't work. I want to watch Space Jam. And then and then he
• 55:46
  just goes put the disc in. I was like, wait a minute,
• 55:51
  what an idea? That is? This novel concept of putting a fucking movie
• 55:54
  in the displayer and actually playing the movie. I never would have thought of
• 55:59
  that one. Well done sim wisdom from the mouths of Babes. I was
• 56:02
  like, all this argument could have been sold if I just went to the
• 56:06
  shelf with the four K and Space Jam and put it in the machine.
• 56:09
  But the idea of all of us not. If I can't get Netflix,
• 56:13
  then I can't watch it. It's like they've because they've they've converted me.
• 56:15
  I'm like, wait a minute, it's there. I owned the movie.
• 56:20
  Why do I care if Netflix has it? Or not. And then I
• 56:22
  put it in. I was like, Wow, it's clearer. I can
• 56:24
  skip chapters, the trailers and everything. That's right. There was something novel
• 56:32
  about putting it in and just getting the menu. I was like, oh,
• 56:36
  menus, I remember these special features audio coming Terry's music videos from songs
• 56:44
  in the film. We never had it so good and put it on.
• 56:50
  We'll putting it on and Alliott's going through and he goes, what's that one.
• 56:52
  I'm like, that's the film clip for the for the Bad Guys song.
• 56:54
  And he goes, put it on. He watched that film clip.
• 56:57
  I'm like, repeat for like ten fifteen minutes three times in a row.
• 57:00
  The the idea of a music video. He was like what is this?
• 57:05
  Like what what? And I was like, oh yeah, music videos don't
• 57:07
  really thing anymore, like they are on YouTube. But like I don't think
• 57:09
  people go out of their way to watch music videos any what that is like
• 57:12
  streamed the song on Spotify, you know, let's reconci how often do you
• 57:15
  watch the videos on YouTube? You know what I mean? Unless it's like
• 57:17
  an old one. But growing up, it was if you wanted to hear
• 57:21
  the song, unless it was on the radio. You had to wait for
• 57:23
  it to the music video on Yeah, on Smash Hits or yeah whatever it
• 57:28
  was video hits, video hits, or as I watched it, as I
• 57:34
  evolved to a mature teenager or preteen rage Rage like the Rage Top fifty was
• 57:40
  awesome because it was noahds and it was uncut, so you had the swearing.
• 57:47
  But they played the full music video and the full music video that I
• 57:51
  remember watching, obviously you would have been like Thriller or something, right,
• 57:53
  but the Backstreet Boys is gonna sound silly, I know. But the Backstreet
• 57:57
  Boys had a video for that ever a Bard Yeah that song, which is
• 58:01
  like Thriller and it's all monsters and ships. Yeah yeah, like universal monsters.
• 58:06
  Right. But there was like a two minute interlude of them arriving at
• 58:08
  the Haunted Mansion and then being going to bed and being all spoot and going
• 58:13
  I know about this place, man, And then then they wake up and
• 58:15
  they are they are the monsters, right, and that the start and that's
• 58:19
  when they wake up. That's when the show's up. Video hits were just
• 58:21
  cuts them going every Bard already in their monster form. But it's like a
• 58:24
  two minute thing that's set up and they're becoming the monsters, and then after
• 58:29
  the song's finished, there was like a two minutes afterwards where they're like turned
• 58:31
  back into people again, like they wake up from their dream. And I'm
• 58:35
  like, you would only get that if you watched it on Rage, So
• 58:37
  it was like it was a big deal to see the full clip. Yeah.
• 58:40
  The funniest thing that happened on Rage as well was they'd get international artists
• 58:45
  who are touring or whatever. It's like, come on and program Rage and
• 58:47
  can play any videos. You're like, yeah, and everyone always played this
• 58:52
  song called Window Liquor by Aphex Twin because the video was banned everywhere else in
• 58:57
  the world. It's necessarily violent or sexy and everything like that. It's kind
• 59:02
  of sexy comes but it's just disturbing. It's got some really like weird imagery
• 59:07
  because afx twin his sort of logo as this mask that's sort of like grinning
• 59:12
  Joker mask, and it's got all these women in skimpy bikinis being sort of
• 59:17
  hosed down and shaking their butts in slow motion, but they've all got the
• 59:21
  smiley face on and it's kind of like, this is weird. That's infesting
• 59:25
  my dreams. But everyone who who came in from overseass like you can play
• 59:30
  us on TV. We're programming that. That was great, but we were
• 59:37
  now returning you to million dollars AB already in progress. But yeah, I
• 59:42
  was will say everyone hates Grandpa's that the clinic's hooked up to the diapod.
• 59:45
  That's right. He wants the Glenmill Orchestra. Let's just skim through this piece
• 59:47
  of shit, man. Yeah, he wants to see hear the music,
• 59:52
  and watch videos of cops beating up hippies. Then the cops enter with one
• 59:55
  minute to go before he's about to die, and the sister's suicide law has
• 59:59
  been overturned. Her grandpa wikes off, thinks that he's dead. He's running
• 1:00:01
  through the streets and in his gown and he says he doesn't know whether he's
• 1:00:05
  in heaven and hell, and he says, Hanburger heaven and Charlie chaplain.
• 1:00:08
  He thinks he's in heaven as well, and he walks into Luigi's for whatever,
• 1:00:12
  raising the family just happened to be there. What you're all dead too?
• 1:00:20
  So who went berserk? That's so? Were the little guy run out
• 1:00:22
  dead? And matter a year, I'm not. I guess if you want
• 1:00:28
  to commit suicide around here, you gotta do it yourself. So sad gap
• 1:00:32
  killing yourself as a sin, but not just to die of old age after
• 1:00:37
  years of pain and reduced mobility. I ain't gonna kill myself because I just
• 1:00:44
  learned something. The brief time I thought I was dead was the happiest I've
• 1:00:52
  ever been because I was finally living without fear and Dad never Dead's the way
• 1:00:58
  I'm gonna live the rest of my life after years of pain and an immability.
• 1:01:01
  And I was like, that's a good lie. I appreciate that one.
• 1:01:04
  That's the kind of thing that's irrelevant to this episode. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:07
  yeah, yeah exactly. And then Grandpa, this whole story should have
• 1:01:09
  been about euthanasia. That's that's the thing. Got set up about the football
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  team, and then have the batter or at the end, it's like the
• 1:01:16
  only then is only about five minutes of this actual episode. It's crazy to
• 1:01:21
  think that such a such a hot topic was barely in this episode at all.
• 1:01:25
  But we're now at the wet to come to the point where Grandpa said
• 1:01:30
  he's gone to live without any fear. You know, the moment where I
• 1:01:31
  thought I was dead was where I was just happy and I wasn't worried.
• 1:01:35
  We had a montage of him sort of living life on to the extreme,
• 1:01:38
  but as an old person, like using the other saltwater taffy and skateboarding on
• 1:01:43
  but any two things saltwater taffy and skateboard on his scooters, you're all going
• 1:01:46
  to die in a pointless war. There was one thing here that made me
• 1:01:49
  sad was the exterior of the supermarket has been updated. It used to always
• 1:01:53
  be that old supermarket with the trolley rolling out of the out of the young
• 1:01:55
  car park, but it was as a different design now. It was like
• 1:01:59
  ally when you look at nineties McDonald's stores and you look at modern stores.
• 1:02:01
  It made me sad. But when now at the town hall meeting there thinking
• 1:02:07
  of ideas for the stadium now because they've spent all this money on a stadium
• 1:02:09
  now they've got no use for it, no use for it. This giant
• 1:02:13
  stadium, there's no use for it. We didn't we have that recently where
• 1:02:15
  it was we have no use for this orchestra with some Yeah, it's a
• 1:02:20
  music hall that we built. It's right, yeah, I'm pretty sure you
• 1:02:22
  just rehashed the same story. Literally now I must admit I've forgotten, so
• 1:02:28
  I've written, who's the Spaniard? Is here the guy from the people that
• 1:02:30
  had all the different movie jackets? Yeah? Yeah, it's planning a Hollywood
• 1:02:34
  jacket guy. Yeah yeah, but only only twig because I saw the plane
• 1:02:37
  a Hollywood jacket and I'm like, oh, ok AD's that guy? Of
• 1:02:38
  all the people, you could bring back this guy. I feel that the
• 1:02:42
  design is kind of different with him. Started with him quite it looked it
• 1:02:45
  kind of looked like him, but it didn't as well at the same time.
• 1:02:47
  But they they he suggests bullfighting, they all say, oh, they
• 1:02:52
  need a matador, and Grandpa's like, oh, do it. And then
• 1:02:54
  I'm like, okay, why that's your way of living after the fullest?
• 1:03:00
  Is it? I don't know, It's just isn't it a death wish?
• 1:03:01
  Being a bullfighter? Anyway? And like the it's the thing. I guess
• 1:03:07
  the family didn't want him to the family that want into it was Is it
• 1:03:08
  just Lisa did did we see margin Homer protest against it to say don't do
• 1:03:14
  it, it's too dangerous. Not that I recall, no so that the
• 1:03:16
  whole point of them being annoyed that he was can't commit suicides, it seems.
• 1:03:22
  And this is the thing. Not once in that scene where he said,
• 1:03:24
  you want to commit suicide, did they say you can't do that because
• 1:03:29
  we love you. It was you can't do it because God doesn't want you
• 1:03:30
  to, So that they didn't even they didn't even have them say that they
• 1:03:36
  love him in that moment. Yeah, this is an opportunity for you to
• 1:03:39
  do that kind of thing, to reinforce the and the and have the family
• 1:03:44
  realize, oh my god, we are not showing this man the love that
• 1:03:45
  he needs. You know, they just fopped it off, like you can't
• 1:03:49
  kill yourself. God doesn't want you to anyway. So Granba was now practicing
• 1:03:55
  the bullfight and he was Bart, sorry, see the mat off thing and
• 1:04:00
  with the red flag, and Bart goes past home and finds a penny,
• 1:04:02
  bends over. You think he's gonna get a horn in the bum, but
• 1:04:04
  he gets it in the crutch out. We're now at the first fight and
• 1:04:09
  Lisa is at the front protesting because you know who cares about grab By killing
• 1:04:13
  himself, But those bulls, he can't kill those bulls, you know,
• 1:04:15
  Carlin Lenny. They compliment her, singing, He's going to bring it the
• 1:04:17
  bull's heart, and Grandpa's all dressed up and marches, yeah, you know,
• 1:04:21
  he looks. He looks pretty good, all dressed up in the in
• 1:04:24
  the outfit. Then the bull just roundly gets tired and falls down in front
• 1:04:28
  of it. Is this how bullfights go? I've never I've never actually watched
• 1:04:30
  one. I just don't want I don't want to. I don't want to
• 1:04:32
  watch the only well, the main thing that I remember about bullfights is there
• 1:04:39
  was there's great memorable or viral moment where a Matt at Door just sort of
• 1:04:45
  realized halfway through a bullfight that he was like, you know what, fuck
• 1:04:48
  this, this kind of sucks, and he just stops and he goes and
• 1:04:54
  sits down, and actually he's sort of I mean, it's one of those
• 1:04:57
  things where it's like this image can mean anything, but it was like this
• 1:04:59
  guy I was crying because he realizes, oh god, I'm just here to
• 1:05:02
  kill this ball for no reason. And you know, you seem sort of
• 1:05:05
  leaning against the woman, just feeling ashamed of himself or whatever. It's like,
• 1:05:09
  I mean, that's kind of moving and poignan or whatever. But yeah,
• 1:05:13
  unlike this episode, which is neither of those things. No. Then
• 1:05:16
  yet the shot with the ball looking up sad and broken and tired, and
• 1:05:20
  Grandpa lifts up the knife and you think what was he going to do?
• 1:05:24
  And he comes down and it cuts away to Lisa, and I'm like,
• 1:05:27
  okay, so what the grand But I actually do I know? The ball
• 1:05:30
  just got killed. That's a line that I feel that Simpsons have never crossed
• 1:05:33
  shore. We see the animals getting killed and things like that, but for
• 1:05:36
  it to be handled in this way, it just felt so wrong. It
• 1:05:41
  just felt so Unsimpson, Like, didn't it It just felt so I don't
• 1:05:45
  know, I just I didn't. I didn't like it. Yeah, and
• 1:05:47
  this is not to say there's not room for quote unquote dramatic moments or poignant
• 1:05:53
  moments in a Simpson episode, but yeah, this one just felt kind of
• 1:05:57
  awkward and weird and not mean spirits a bit a little bit cruel, A
• 1:06:01
  pointless death in a pointless episode. Yeah. Yeah, although I must admit
• 1:06:05
  the old man beats meadline was not unfunny. Yeah, it was funny,
• 1:06:11
  of course, but that's where I went, Oh, he actually did it,
• 1:06:14
  so Lisa. Then Lisa goes to see him and she says, and
• 1:06:16
  he says, I've got to do this because people are now cheering for me.
• 1:06:19
  I was always cheering for you, Grandpa. And I'm like, no,
• 1:06:23
  was she though? Tim? Tim, Tim, do you remember did
• 1:06:27
  you cut something out of the script that we're forgetting to that we didn't see
• 1:06:30
  here, because I'm pretty sure we never once saw Lisa show any form of
• 1:06:33
  empathy towards Grandpa. She was showing some empathy towards other bulls, Grandpa not
• 1:06:40
  so much. But now which want to get her own way. Suddenly she
• 1:06:43
  shown him everything. She she trying to lay the guilt trip, saying,
• 1:06:45
  I was always cheering for you. Give me one example, buddy, one
• 1:06:48
  example down built exactly the same face as though in that name was like is
• 1:06:53
  he though, yeah, it's not exactly the same face. Seriously, it's
• 1:06:58
  just terrible the way this was handed. And the next fight, Grandpa he
• 1:07:00
  seems distracted, and then he releases the balls. He sees the light,
• 1:07:04
  he sees the positives and situation. He's like, no, this can't happen.
• 1:07:08
  This is ridiculous. Let's all the balls out. And then this is
• 1:07:11
  like, I guess Grandpa sat them all free. Why would you think that?
• 1:07:15
  What made it think that? Anyway? But then I did like the
• 1:07:20
  ball getting on the elevator and going up to see the guy in the commentator
• 1:07:24
  of Booth's stupid but funny. And then they take out gil Luigi was taking
• 1:07:30
  that as well. He's Luis's walking around with some fresh veal. And then
• 1:07:33
  Grandpa and Lisa are just randomly floating in chairs with balloons. I missed that,
• 1:07:38
  but did By the way, did you catch the there was a swartzwelder
• 1:07:40
  cameo? No, I didn't see that. Where was he? Oh,
• 1:07:42
  there's a running sort of the balls the ball tore chasing people down the street.
• 1:07:45
  And I'm pretty sure he's on the left with the long hair and the
• 1:07:46
  hat and the glasses. Okay, did you not see the end of with
• 1:07:50
  Lisa and Grandpa and the sky with the balloons in the chair the end of
• 1:07:54
  the episode. I must have missed that. I don't How did I miss
• 1:07:56
  that? At the very end, Grandpa and Lisa were up in the sky
• 1:08:00
  on chairs with balloons, much like the up house. And then the bulls
• 1:08:01
  float up with balloons as well, and he goes, oh, did you
• 1:08:04
  not see the end of the episode. I honestly don't recall that, and
• 1:08:06
  I'm sure I watch the episode because I went to the Yeah, because I
• 1:08:10
  saw I saw the bit over the closing credits with him and like um testifying
• 1:08:14
  at the anti communist hearings. How did I miss that bit? It must
• 1:08:16
  have been paying attention. Yeah, so, and with Grandpa and Lisa in
• 1:08:19
  the sky sitting on a like chairs with balloons attached to floating in the sky,
• 1:08:24
  and He'll be like, ah, thanks Grandpa for finally doing this,
• 1:08:27
  and then bulls float up in the sky with angry faces on balloons, and
• 1:08:30
  Grandpa's like, oh, Dan, I assure you I watched this episode.
• 1:08:34
  I think the fact that I've point it out, you know, beats from
• 1:08:40
  this episode would indicate that I had. I honestly don't remember that, and
• 1:08:43
  I watched it not that long ago. What the hell was going on?
• 1:08:46
  Did you? What? Did you watch it on Disney Plants or on the
• 1:08:48
  discs or Disney Plus? Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go
• 1:08:53
  back and rewatch it on Disney Plants or rewatch the last bit because that bit.
• 1:08:58
  Honestly, I do not recall. But the bit of the credits was
• 1:09:01
  just where was that from? That? Did I miss something? It's like,
• 1:09:03
  that's not no relation to this episode. I don't think so, I'm
• 1:09:08
  like at all, where would this a fit in? I don't get it.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah, it's got no relevance and no relation to anything that happens in
• 1:09:14
  this episode. This was such a bizarre episode. This was so weird.
• 1:09:18
  Yeah, and so not good. No, so not good? Sound good?
• 1:09:26
  That was? That was? That was? Yeah, I don't know,
• 1:09:29
  I fail on the Simpsons part. This maybe maybe drum me if you
• 1:09:34
  will, maybe in my top ten worst episodes I've seen to date doing this
• 1:09:38
  podcast pretty bad, it's no good. I'm gonna say, I'm going to
• 1:09:43
  agree with you. It's yeah, it was unnecessarily pointless and morbid and yeah
• 1:09:47
  from a joke, Yeah, from a joke perspective and a human perspective and
• 1:09:50
  all the kinds like, no, it failed quite miserably. Yeah, but
• 1:09:55
  in other terms, it's like, yeah, you had something you could do
• 1:09:57
  here, but you did it all wrong and just all over the shop like
• 1:10:00
  a bloody mad dog shit, a mad dog shit from this knee forward your
• 1:10:09
  name, droll me okay, mister Davis, it is time for the new
• 1:10:12
  name championship here for season seventeen million dollars abe. The current leaderboard stands at
• 1:10:16
  this In first position we have Luke mcalon thirteen points. In second position we
• 1:10:21
  have Adam Moorehouse on ten points, and in third position we have Kyle Muldoon
• 1:10:26
  and Garrod Harrowhill both on nine points. So hit me, what are the
• 1:10:30
  one two three four this week? Oh? Are we doing four points as
• 1:10:34
  well? One two three four this week? Oh? My goodness, hand
• 1:10:38
  me confused for a second. That's but let's keep it to one two three
• 1:10:42
  old gold, silver and bronze and one point goes to matter dope, matter
• 1:10:47
  dough. That is from Justin Williams. Now. Is that Justin's first time
• 1:10:50
  on the leaderboard. I don't know whether it is. No, Justin is
• 1:10:54
  now on three points. Why I'm Justin? That name sounded none for me
• 1:10:57
  to me. Well done, Justin, welcome to the league. Yeah,
• 1:11:00
  nice work. Two points for Aging Bull. Oh that's awesome. That is
• 1:11:08
  a great title. Of course, it's from a man. Mark Boston Burgess
• 1:11:11
  Point is wearing that leader board as well. Mark Boston now on six points,
• 1:11:15
  halfway, there's a first position. You're halfway their buddy, well done,
• 1:11:18
  well downe Mark Boston Burgess. But three points for signor citizen signior citizen.
• 1:11:26
  That's actually even better and that is from one Heath Appleby Wow, that's
• 1:11:31
  Heath. Oh not quite first, So okay. So Luke McKay is still
• 1:11:34
  in first position thirteen points, but that now means with Heath getting that three
• 1:11:39
  points, Heath is now tied for second position on ten points, with Adam
• 1:11:43
  Moorhouse and Garrod and Kyle still just one point behind them on nine. So
• 1:11:46
  it's a two weight. It's a tie for second and tie for third as
• 1:11:49
  well. Oh, very nice. How do you like them? Applebee's very
• 1:11:54
  good stuff? Deail here? All right? First question it comes from you've
• 1:12:00
  guessed at Andrew JP. Andrew says, if you could have any sporting team
• 1:12:04
  join an existing competition, who were to be and in what competition? I'd
• 1:12:08
  love to see the a Canberra team in either the BBL or the NBL.
• 1:12:13
  So who won't a Gelong team in, assuming that they would be a half
• 1:12:16
  decent. Well, I'm at last just been getting back into the Supercats because
• 1:12:20
  he loves basketball. Alliott Oh Yeah, So I've been out to Supercats games
• 1:12:24
  and things like that, so I'm sort of like starting to follow the NBL
• 1:12:26
  a bit more again. Um, but so we already have an MBL team
• 1:12:30
  them and in the NBA would be pretty cool, but obviously that's not going
• 1:12:33
  to happen. We're kind of got a cricket team with the who is it
• 1:12:36
  that the it's the Red BBL team, It's Melbourne. It's a Melbourne team,
• 1:12:42
  but they basically like associated with because there's two Melbourne teams and one of
• 1:12:45
  them is associated with Geelong. You know what I'm talking? Who are they?
• 1:12:47
  I don't follow cricket enough to be able to I don't have a single
• 1:12:50
  solidary cloth. Yeah, we have a melbourn team that's associated with Gelong,
• 1:12:55
  so we're kind of got to geln team. I don't know what about you,
• 1:12:57
  like, what's what's sports? What sports are you into? Besides AF
• 1:13:00
  I was quite into basketball for a while. I mean, the Supercats had
• 1:13:03
  a real moment the son back in the back in the eighties, and the
• 1:13:10
  late great Bobby Davis, My father was associated with him to some degree.
• 1:13:15
  He was he was very close with a guy who was sort of a bit
• 1:13:18
  of a power breaker with Gelong basketball such as it was, so we'd go
• 1:13:21
  to a lot of games, got to hang out with some of the players.
• 1:13:26
  The great Cal Bruton he was He wasn't a tall guy, but he
• 1:13:30
  was a fucking fantastic baller. He was really, really good. There was
• 1:13:33
  a guy called James Coroford. It was fantastic and a huge white dude.
• 1:13:38
  These were all American guys. These are all imports named Jim Town and Jim
• 1:13:44
  I got along famously for some reason. I mean, he was looking back
• 1:13:46
  and he was probably only in his early twenties or the thing. He's probably
• 1:13:49
  fresh out of college. And I was his little weakness, little um,
• 1:13:53
  you know, teenage kid who was probably came up to about his kneecout.
• 1:13:56
  But I used to give him shit all the time. For some reason.
• 1:13:58
  I did just figured that I'm not not in a sort of a snarky way,
• 1:14:02
  but I'd tease him a bit. I know, for some reason.
• 1:14:04
  Have you ever met someone you just know you can take the piss out of
• 1:14:08
  them and they'll kind of dig it, or you know, you can get
• 1:14:11
  up yeah, and then sometimes sometimes you take it that a little bit too
• 1:14:14
  far and you're like, ah man, and then you get picked up and
• 1:14:17
  putting a bin. Yeah, I don't know that that didn't. You're supposed
• 1:14:20
  to be cool. Man's supposed to take This is all I got, man,
• 1:14:27
  this is all feelings. But no, I mean I used to go
• 1:14:32
  to see the Supercats all the time and I thought they were fantastic. So
• 1:14:34
  um, all due respect to the current Supercats, I'm sorry, I'm not
• 1:14:40
  really paying much attention to your prow West, but I think it'd be great
• 1:14:43
  if Gelong basketball got a bit more of a resurgence. Yes, one hundred
• 1:14:45
  percent, because it needs to, because you go to games and like they're
• 1:14:48
  playing okay, the super Cats, but and you think, like Geelong,
• 1:14:53
  how do we not have a team that's more importantly? You feel like when
• 1:14:55
  you're in Geelong, it's all about the football team. You very rarely see
• 1:14:58
  the super Cat per murdered anyway anymore. Used to be like giant billboards over
• 1:15:01
  to roundtown the super Cats, and it's like you wouldn't even know that we
• 1:15:04
  even have a team anymore. I feel like we're just walking around town and
• 1:15:08
  things like that. It's really weird. But what would do one more question?
• 1:15:10
  Because' been going really long in this episode. This one here is focused
• 1:15:15
  Jeffs. Do you have any funny or embarrassing sports stories from days gone by?
• 1:15:19
  Have any funny stories from going to the footy with your dad or anything
• 1:15:21
  like that. I didn't really go all that often, although I remember when
• 1:15:29
  I was very very young. I don't know why this guy, but I
• 1:15:32
  was with my sister ed ween and she's the one closest to me in age,
• 1:15:36
  and we were in the outer. It's good, good to be in
• 1:15:40
  the outer every once in a while. For some reason, some guy was
• 1:15:44
  dissing our dad. I don't know why. I mean, Dad wasn't really
• 1:15:48
  involved. He wasn't playing. Oh he wouldn't been playing well, no,
• 1:15:51
  I mean I was born after he started. He finished coaching a little.
• 1:15:58
  But for some reason, yeah, I think he Maybe Dad was on the
• 1:16:00
  radio or something on three g L, the home of home of football,
• 1:16:03
  and yes, guy said something when it was not backwards back, that's our
• 1:16:09
  dad you're talking about. I'm sorry, kids, I've made a girl man
• 1:16:15
  cry so but embarrassing sports serves myself and look, I'm sure i've got some.
• 1:16:24
  I mean, just you know, general fuck ups from when you think
• 1:16:28
  you should you'd be trying to look sort of cool or proficient in what you're
• 1:16:32
  doing, and said, you just mess up. I used to row,
• 1:16:34
  you know, like you've said this before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:38
  And the worst thing that can happen when you row is then called catching a
• 1:16:42
  crab. When you're you're putting your raw forward and it gets caught in the
• 1:16:48
  water and sort of comes reverbing back at you and it hits you in the
• 1:16:50
  ribs and it can just you know, it sucks up your whole race.
• 1:16:55
  It fucks you up. And yeah, that happened to me once. It
• 1:16:57
  almost knocked me out of the boat. It was just why is it called
• 1:17:00
  catching crab? Where's the relation to crabs? Um? It's like you you
• 1:17:05
  all goes in a bit too deep and you can't get it out in time.
• 1:17:09
  Okay, I'm just thinking someone's just thrown crabs it, Yeah, don't
• 1:17:13
  catch them. They probably should do that. Yeah, I want to break
• 1:17:17
  position cheese kind of like bombardment, but just crabs. I M I broke
• 1:17:23
  my wrist once playing football and remember when I was on the ground, it
• 1:17:27
  was like under fourteen, So like you're at that age where you know you're
• 1:17:30
  not an adult, but you kind of feel like you're a grown up.
• 1:17:32
  You know. I'm fourteen now. Anyway, I broken wrists. I remember
• 1:17:36
  my mom yell at my boys hurt, and I was like, oh no,
• 1:17:41
  Mom, don't do it. And and then I had this guy say
• 1:17:44
  you can't go out in the ground. Man, you cannot go out in
• 1:17:46
  the ground. And I remember just laying on the ground here and my mom
• 1:17:49
  going, you can't stop me from getting to my son. And Mom just
• 1:17:53
  like ran out in the field. The game had to stop, and I'm
• 1:17:55
  like, oh my god, obviously had a broken wrist. But I was
• 1:18:00
  just like coming off. Mum's like walking off with me. I'm just like,
• 1:18:01
  Ohm, leave me alone. I'm like walking off the ground. She's
• 1:18:05
  walking me off the ground, my mum. Your mom's like mel Gibson the
• 1:18:10
  ransom, give me my alrighty, Well, that is a mailbag four million
• 1:18:15
  dollars. Abe. As you said, guys, this was not a great
• 1:18:18
  episode. Even when we go back and went through it all usually gets a
• 1:18:20
  little bit better. No, I think this one might have got worse.
• 1:18:23
  This one's just not a good one at all. But we'd love to hear
• 1:18:26
  your thoughts. Send them in Simpson's Mailbag at gmail dot com. Don't forget
• 1:18:29
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• 1:18:35
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• 1:18:38
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• 1:18:41
  com. Mister Davis, any final words for those incredible listeners out there.
• 1:18:45
  No, I just gotta go because it's time for this old man to beat meat.