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February 5, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 1: Here Monday Writers. Roundtable The Annual Houston Fishing show at
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Speaker 1: The GEORGE. R brown In houston is coming up two
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Speaker 1: weeks From. Saturday there's going to be a presentation By Chester,
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Speaker 1: moore who we've had on the show several, times editor
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Speaker 1: in chief Of Texas fish And, game founder of The
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Speaker 1: Gulf Great White Sharks. Society he's doing a seminar Called
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Speaker 1: Giant sharks of The Texas, coast which should be. Interesting
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Speaker 1: that's one forty five That, saturday discussing an increase in
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Speaker 1: sightings and activity of great white sharks in The gulf Of.
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Speaker 1: Mexico key findings tracking data out to the flower gardens
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Speaker 1: out Of, galveston of, course and so you can put
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Speaker 1: that on your. Calendar it's always a great. SHOW i
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Speaker 1: have a story here About. Ernst that's WHAT i. Needed
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Speaker 1: ernst has decided to spend the winter months in The
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Speaker 1: gulf Of. Mexico twelve feet over one thousand pounds female great.
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Speaker 1: White the further west she, goes the more the journey
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Speaker 1: captivates the. PUBLIC Oh, search which tags these giant, sharks
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Speaker 1: Fitted ernst with a tag in Early october In Nova.
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Speaker 1: Scotia so a few days, Ago ernst was near The Chandelier.
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Speaker 1: Islands how would you like to be wadefishing The Chandelier,
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Speaker 1: islands which a lot of people. DO i. Wouldn't. Man
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of sharks, here but not like, this
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Speaker 1: twenty five miles south Of. Biloxi this Means ernst has
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Speaker 1: traveled up to two thousand miles and. County ernst's previous
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Speaker 1: pig Came january, eleventh that's three weeks, earlier not far
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Speaker 1: From Mobile, bay four miles off shore Osearch stata scientists
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Speaker 1: says we've noticed tagged white sharks utilizing this part of
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Speaker 1: The Northeastern gulf in other, years most commonly well offshore
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Speaker 1: and near the continental. Slope seeing one move within a
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Speaker 1: few miles of shore is certainly less common and highlights
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Speaker 1: our needs to better understand the drivers of this apex
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Speaker 1: predator's movements in The. Gulf in case you're, Wondering ernst
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Speaker 1: was named in honor Of william G, ernst a ferry
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Speaker 1: between The Nova Scotian. Islands classified as a, subadult meaning
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Speaker 1: somewhere between ten and thirty years, old so she's not
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Speaker 1: quite fully. Grown female great whites reach sexual maturity at
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Speaker 1: around fifteen. Feet my, gosh the diet shift from fish
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Speaker 1: to larger marine. Animals so, look we know they're out.
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Speaker 1: There let's let's be very careful out. There there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of ernst swimming. Around Toyota Sheri lunker program. Underway last,
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Speaker 1: year four hundred and sixty nine anglers entered a record
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Speaker 1: one thousand and seventy one large mouth. Bass the total
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Speaker 1: included seven hundred and fourteen between eight and ten, pounds
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Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty five between ten and thirteen, pounds
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Speaker 1: fourteen legacy fish over thirteen, pounds and eight that were
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Speaker 1: thirteen or. More first one fourteen point seven to eight
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Speaker 1: caught By Ross gomez At Allan Henry, lake so it's the.
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Speaker 1: Same first time in program. History the same angler caught
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Speaker 1: the same fish. Twice that's pretty. AMAZING i mean when
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Speaker 1: you look at. It gomez had worked till three o'clock that,
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Speaker 1: afternoon wanted to get some fishing in after. Work got
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Speaker 1: to the. Dock there was a friend of mine on
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Speaker 1: fish with. BEFORE i was trying out a new LURE
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Speaker 1: i had. Bought we were just talking about. Fishing threw
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Speaker 1: the lure out there is bringing it in and, stopped
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Speaker 1: looked at. It out of, NOWHERE i saw her come
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Speaker 1: up from the bottom and smash. It i'm screaming to my,
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Speaker 1: friend get the. Net it's a huge fish it. WAS i, mean,
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Speaker 1: yeah almost fifteen. POUNDS ohiv racked up Twelve legacy class.
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Speaker 1: Luckers that's over thirteen in twenty, one twenty, two twenty,
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Speaker 1: four fifteen in twenty twenty. Three so off to a
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Speaker 1: start already this. Year and if you want to catch
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Speaker 1: a big bass in public, Waters Alan henry probably is
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Speaker 1: the place that gives you the best chance to do
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Speaker 1: that at This this has been going on a long
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Speaker 1: time and it. Is it's an amazing program and what
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Speaker 1: they've done through parks and wildlife and learning how to
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Speaker 1: grow big, bass which we've talked about you know quite
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Speaker 1: a bit. Before by the, Way parks And wildlife has
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Speaker 1: Closed Matagorda bay to commercial and recreational oyster fishing because
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Speaker 1: recent samples collected showing a low abundance of legal sized.
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Speaker 1: Oysters this, happens they will continue to monitor. It they'll
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Speaker 1: reopen if the thresholds are, met so we will keep
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Speaker 1: an eye on. That thousands of. IGUANAS i know you've
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Speaker 1: seen this. Story you know it's been cold In florida
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Speaker 1: last couple of. Weeks crazy. Cold i'm talking about below freezing,
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Speaker 1: cold the lowest Recorded february temperature since nineteen twenty three
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Speaker 1: In orlando and everything south of, there Especially. Miami according
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Speaker 1: TO Wplg, television it's raining. Iguanas the latest bout of extreme.
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Speaker 1: Cold we're well aware. Of Florida Fisher wildlife issued an
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Speaker 1: executive order allowing people to transport iguanas Cal Roger, young
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Speaker 1: the executive, director, says the first time we've ever done.
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Speaker 1: This we figured we'd take advantage of the cold weather
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Speaker 1: to try to help out the. Landscape the bottom line
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Speaker 1: is you can turn iguanas. In there have been over
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Speaker 1: two thousand iguanas collected because when their body temperature gets
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Speaker 1: a certain, range they basically they don't freeze to. DEATH
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Speaker 1: i mean a few of them, do but they go
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Speaker 1: dormant and they start falling out of trees and landing on.
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Speaker 1: PEOPLE i, mean it's funny to me because it didn't
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Speaker 1: happen to. Me But i'm just saying they're using this
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Speaker 1: to try because they've done everything they can to try
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Speaker 1: to regulate the iguana population and it has it. Worked
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Speaker 1: they're everywhere In South. Florida they're a, menace they are a.
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Speaker 1: Threat AND i tell you this is going to put
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Speaker 1: a little bit of, dent which is a good, thing
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Speaker 1: in the iguana population In South. Florida and we've talked
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Speaker 1: about that before. Too you, know they have. Hunts there's
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Speaker 1: commercial people that, say, hey come kill some iguanas down.
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Speaker 1: Here we need your. Help Now i've talked about. BEFORE
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Speaker 1: a friend of mine had been down there a few
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Speaker 1: years ago fishing on one of the inland you, know,
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Speaker 1: canals waterways and in the parking. LOT i don't, know
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Speaker 1: there must have been. Thirty it was a little bit of.
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Speaker 1: Intimidating it was like the, birds only with iguanas kind
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Speaker 1: of staring at you and slowly coming toward. You, YEAH
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Speaker 1: i didn't like.
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Speaker 6: That so.
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Speaker 1: The cold, weather while difficult for specially agriculture in that
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Speaker 1: state and fishing to a lesser, extent did have all,
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Speaker 1: right did have a positive effect in terms of kind
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Speaker 1: of thinning out that that. Population so In, florida we're talking.
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Speaker 1: Iguanas In North, Texas, frisco to be, exact north Of,
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Speaker 1: dallas we're talking about bobcats and. Coyotes Frisco police said
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Speaker 1: in a statement last week Its Animal services division has
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Speaker 1: been investigating several bobcat attacks on house. Pets police say
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Speaker 1: there's no indication to public is at. RISK Dj, schubert
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Speaker 1: Senior wildlatte, biologists that we are occupying their. SPACE i
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Speaker 1: think what that comes a level of responsibility to do
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Speaker 1: our best to, coexist not so. Much you, know they
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Speaker 1: talk about how important the animals are to the, environment
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Speaker 1: which they. Are i'm not saying they're. Not but if
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Speaker 1: you know, me you know this idea of we're occupying
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Speaker 1: occupying their, space that doesn't fly with. Me they're in our.
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Speaker 1: Space North texans may worry about animals, attacks but the
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Speaker 1: good news is there was not one reported fatality from
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Speaker 1: a bobcat attack last. Year In North. Texas Good. Gosh Karen,
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Speaker 1: sosato Coordinator Project, coyote a group that advocates for the
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Speaker 1: preservation of wild, carnivores said one thing people don't realize
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Speaker 1: is behaviors that might feel threatening to them or the
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Speaker 1: animal's natural. Behavior, coexistence she, says is not about doing.
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Speaker 1: Nothing it's about understanding wildlife behavior and taking, simple proactive
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Speaker 1: steps that keep, people companion, animals and walld neighbors. Safe
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Speaker 1: my proactive staff would probably involve a. Firearm cooties and
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Speaker 1: bobcats are not inherently dangerous to. Humans we've heard this before,
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Speaker 1: Though like all, animals they deserve and respect. Space schubert
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Speaker 1: says it's important to understand bobcats and cayotos are wild.
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Speaker 1: Animals humans should not attempt to treat them as. Domesticated
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Speaker 1: now that's good. Advice in other, words don't be feeding
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Speaker 1: a peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and trying to take your.
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Speaker 1: Picture AND i always love these tips on, wildlife especially
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Speaker 1: to city. Folk pause and let animals move out of your.
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Speaker 1: Path if the animal lingers make, noise, clapping, yelling restrain
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Speaker 1: your pets since wildlife could potentially transmit. Diseases make sure
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Speaker 1: vaccinations are. Updated in other, words, hey you got to get.
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Speaker 1: Bit make sure you've had your. Shots secure pet food
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Speaker 1: and trash in close. Containers never run from. Wildlife this
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Speaker 1: can discourage. Chasing never corner. Them how do you corner a?
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Speaker 1: Bobcat that sounds like a children's book to. Me just
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Speaker 1: send an. Idea people leave that. Alone that's my, idea
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Speaker 1: how to corner a? Bobcat all, right we got Some
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Speaker 1: let me do this first and then we'll get to
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Speaker 1: some more. Attacks this is Local New Year's day tattoo
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Speaker 1: shop owner. SAID i thought we'd been broken into, stuff
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Speaker 1: knocked over, glass, broken chaos, everywhere but nothing was, stolen
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Speaker 1: AND i noticed some bloody pawprints on the floor and
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Speaker 1: on the. Walls turns out a raccoon had fallen through the,
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Speaker 1: roof knocked over, bookcases cut its, foot climb back into the.
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Speaker 1: Ceiling realized that the mom raccoon had. Babies had to
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Speaker 1: call animal control connected to The paws And Claws Wildlife
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Speaker 1: Rehabit Relocation center helped humanely trap and relocate the. Raccoons,
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Speaker 1: AGAIN i would have done it for much. LESS i
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Speaker 1: could have relocated them and without telling you how or
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Speaker 1: where they were. RELOCATED i love. This if anyone finds
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Speaker 1: themselves in a similar, situation supporting organizations Like paws And
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Clark Eisenhower. Outdoor addition coming up
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Speaker 1: planning a trip into The Devil's river. Area we'll be
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Speaker 1: talking about that here in the second half of the.
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Speaker 1: Program we were just talking about a raccoon here locally
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Speaker 1: that did some damage to a local tattoo. Shop then
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Speaker 1: there's The New York Police department officer who shot a crazed,
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Speaker 1: raccoon according to the, story as it charged a group
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Speaker 1: of bystanders on A queen's boardwalk last. Week the policeman's
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Speaker 1: been placed on modified duty while the incident is. Investigated
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Speaker 1: the unexpected encounter unfolded seven in the morning Last, thursday
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Speaker 1: when the unnamed officer responded to a nine to one
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Speaker 1: to one call of quote a vicious animal Near beach
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Speaker 1: one twenty First street And Ocean promenade In Bell. Harbor
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Speaker 1: AN nypd officer shot a raccoon as that charged a
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Speaker 1: group of. People cops spotted the animal when they got
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Speaker 1: to the scene and tried to show the critter. Away
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Speaker 1: while attempting to guide the raccoon to a safe, location
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Speaker 1: the animals suddenly charged towards a group of people in
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Speaker 1: an aggressive, manner says the. Release an officer discharged his,
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Speaker 1: firearm striking the. Animal there were no human injuries. Reported,
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Speaker 1: Look i'm impressed that the officer hit the running. Raccoon
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Speaker 1: i'll be honest with, you with a pistol not immediately
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Speaker 1: clear if the animal will be tested for. Rabies police
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Speaker 1: say they are. Investigating the investigation is on. Duty the
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Speaker 1: officer's current status is. Modified, LOOK i understand anytime an
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Speaker 1: officer pulls his weapon there has to be an. INVESTIGATION
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Speaker 1: i get that part of, it, Okay BUT i would
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Speaker 1: hope that this guy is back on the streets and
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Speaker 1: back on duty very soon and protecting people from bad
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Speaker 1: guys and vicious. RACCOONS a female, skier this is In. Mongolia,
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Speaker 1: OKAY i didn't know there was skiing In. MONGOLIA i gotta.
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Speaker 1: SAY a female skier was mauled by a snow leopard
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Speaker 1: after getting too close to try to take a, photo
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Speaker 1: and video of course of her being led away with
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Speaker 1: blood quote pouring from her. Face the footage shows the
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Speaker 1: victim lying prone in the, snow wearing a purple ski
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Speaker 1: suit after the animal mauled. HER a snow leopard attacked the,
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Speaker 1: skier according to The China Dot Jam. Press and trust,
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Speaker 1: me if you can't believe The chinese, press what can you?
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Speaker 1: Believe the curists had spotted the rare big cat in
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Speaker 1: the snow and gotten within ten feet of it to
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Speaker 1: take a, picture so apparently the people In china aren't
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Speaker 1: any smarter than the people that go To Yellowstone park
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Speaker 1: and try to take pictures of buffalo and moose and
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Speaker 1: other wild animals in the. PARK i, mean come. ON
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Speaker 1: a ski instructor eventually chased the snow leopard away by
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Speaker 1: waving his poles like you. Do the victim was saved
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Speaker 1: from more serious injuries by her ski. Helmet she is
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Speaker 1: listed in stable condition at a local. Hospital chinese authorities
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Speaker 1: have issued a warning to visitors of multiple recent snow
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Speaker 1: leopard sidings in the. Area the warning said snow leopards
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Speaker 1: are large predators with strong aggressive. Tendencies when passing through the,
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Speaker 1: Area please move quickly and do not. Linger do not
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Speaker 1: get out of your vehicle or approach to take, photos
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Speaker 1: and never walk alone in the surrounding. Area the snow
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Speaker 1: leopard had been spotted by visitors close to a nearby
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Speaker 1: guesthouse trying to get. Food among the, reports one of
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Speaker 1: the guesthouse owners, said we saw it last, night a
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Speaker 1: few kilometers from where the attack took. Place china is
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Speaker 1: home to around sixty percent of the world snow leopard,
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Speaker 1: population believe to be somewhere between four thousand and sixty
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Speaker 1: five hundred snow leopard attacks on humans are extremely rare
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Speaker 1: due to the creature's shy. Nature where we heard that, before,
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Speaker 1: right what's the most deadly state for animal? Attacks do
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Speaker 1: you think this is an easy? One texas tops the
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Speaker 1: list according to a recent, study which found one, thousand
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Speaker 1: six hundred and four animal related deaths nationwide in the
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Speaker 1: last five, years two hundred and twenty five of which
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Speaker 1: happened in The Great Lone star. State california was second
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Speaker 1: with one hundred and twenty eight, Fatalities florida a close
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Speaker 1: third with one hundred and. Twelve tennessee had seventy, Two
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Speaker 1: North carolina seventy One New york with forty. Seven stings from,
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Speaker 1: Hornets wasps and bees represented thirty one percent of all
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Speaker 1: animal related, deaths with the majority of those happened happening
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Speaker 1: in The. Midwest dogs responsible for twenty six percent of the,
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Speaker 1: deaths and the SOUTHERN us had the highest percentage of
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Speaker 1: animal related deaths forty six point eight. Percent so here you.
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Speaker 1: Go wasp beastings responsible for four hundred and ninety seven,
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Speaker 1: deaths dogs four hundred and, twenty scorpions seventy eight, deaths
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Speaker 1: snakes slash lizards thirty. Deaths remember this is over a
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Speaker 1: five year. Period spiders twenty six and marine animals read
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Speaker 1: mostly sharks responsible for eleven. Deaths this is between twenty
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Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty twenty. Three so as, always get them
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Speaker 1: before they get. You they are out to get, you
26:44
Speaker 1: they want to kill. You they are not, cute they are.
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Speaker 1: Deadly Act, accordingly we live In, texas we have a
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Speaker 1: right to, carry we have a right to use those
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Speaker 1: weapons in self. Defense so let's go two hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty five fatalities in a five year. PERIOD i, mean,
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Speaker 1: yeah about forty five a, year give or. Take so
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Speaker 1: it's a big. State lots of stuff can hurt, you,
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Speaker 1: Right we've got all of them here in the. State
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Speaker 1: we've got your wasps and, bees your, dogs your, scorpions your,
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Speaker 1: snakes your, spiders your marine. Animals we've got it. All
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Speaker 1: we're number. One get them before they get. YOU i
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Speaker 1: don't know what else to tell. You, people we do
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Speaker 1: this every. WEEK i try to warn. You i'm Just
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Speaker 1: i'm just trying to warn. You i'm just. Saying and
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Speaker 1: we'll end with this part right. Now and that is
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Speaker 1: a reminder that during this time of year parts and
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Speaker 1: wide life stocks thousands of rainbow trout in ponds and
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Speaker 1: cities all over the state Of, texas including right here
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Speaker 1: in The Brazos valley three hundred and thirty five thousand
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Speaker 1: rainbow trout stocked Between november twenty sixth And march the, sixth.
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Speaker 1: Okay and it's also, done of course in The Guadalupe
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Speaker 1: river Below Canyon, Dam Possum, Kingdom, friolanto but, neighborhoods lots
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Speaker 1: of neighborhood. Ponds great place to take the. Kids you
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Speaker 1: don't Need. Texas in A Texas state. Park you can
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Speaker 1: fish from, bank, docks piers and you license are not.
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Speaker 1: Required plus license aren't required for you seventeen and, under
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Speaker 1: but adults have to have a fishing license if you.
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Speaker 1: Go remember, that all, right and this stock and the
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Speaker 1: cool thing about it is you want to keep your.
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Speaker 1: Fish you don't want to throw them, back take them,
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Speaker 1: home eat. Them trot are, wonderful easy to colle don't overcook.
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Speaker 1: Them the statewide bag limit is five no minimum length
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Speaker 1: except on parts of The Guadalupe, River. Okay and you
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Speaker 1: can go to The parks And wildlife website and keep
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Speaker 1: up with the dates of when the stockings, occur because
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Speaker 1: they do this a couple of three, times including. Locally
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Speaker 1: AND i will tell you again for those of you, who,
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Speaker 1: hey you want to get your kids, out you don't
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Speaker 1: know how to do, it keep it small, okay small,
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Speaker 1: hooks light, line light tackle. Okay and for rainbow, trout
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Speaker 1: you know you can go and buy.
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Speaker 7: Bait.
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Speaker 1: Worms of, course you can use flies and little bitty,
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Speaker 1: jigs but you don't fish for rainbow trout the way
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Speaker 1: you do. Bass and a big lake, okay downside everything
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Speaker 1: and let's have fun out. There speaking of stocking, fish
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Speaker 1: my friends At Lucko ranch do this every single. Day
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Clark Eisenhower Outdoor edition for A
34:57
Speaker 1: thursday The Biggest i'm gonna let you in on a
35:05
Speaker 1: podcast that the folks At parks And wildlife have started
35:08
Speaker 1: Called Better. Outside Morgan O handlin is a senior staff
35:14
Speaker 1: writer for The parks And wildlife, magazine and we're going
35:21
Speaker 1: to talk about a trip and it's a couple of,
35:26
Speaker 1: parts so we may do the the back half a
35:30
Speaker 1: little bit later at another. Time but they tackle all
35:36
Speaker 1: kinds of great subjects in the state Of, texas whether
35:42
Speaker 1: in all parts of the. State and one of the
35:47
Speaker 1: things they've done is talk about The Devil's. River and
35:50
Speaker 1: if you know anything about The Devil's, river it's probably
35:54
Speaker 1: the wildest part that with access in the end entire
36:00
Speaker 1: state Of, texas the access is. Limited it has been
36:04
Speaker 1: expanded over the last few. Years it is the most
36:09
Speaker 1: pristine river and probably wildlife area in the entire. State
36:14
Speaker 1: AND i know that's saying something not a lot of
36:19
Speaker 1: people do. It it takes some. Effort obviously you can
36:26
Speaker 1: go for a, day but if you go that far
36:28
Speaker 1: and go that, long you want to do a little
36:30
Speaker 1: bit more than. That and AS i, Mentioned morgan set
36:38
Speaker 1: out to get some information because she wanted to take
36:42
Speaker 1: her mom and we want to hear part of that
36:47
Speaker 1: and give you some information on access to The Devil's.
36:54
Speaker 12: River And i'm about to put my mom through a similar.
36:57
Speaker 12: Experience so SINCE i took a great friends out to
37:00
Speaker 12: The Devil's river back in twenty twenty, one she's been
37:03
Speaker 12: asking me to take her there. Too she saw the
37:05
Speaker 12: pictures of that really pretty water and was, LIKE i
37:08
Speaker 12: need to go.
37:09
Speaker 13: There you, Know, Morgan we just opened up another unit
37:12
Speaker 13: of The Devil's River State Natural. Area it's called The DAN.
37:15
Speaker 13: A Hughes, unit and it's about fourteen miles downriver from
37:19
Speaker 13: The Del norte.
37:20
Speaker 12: Unit that's, right and in, fact that's the other reason
37:23
Speaker 12: why we're going on this. Trip me and a couple
37:25
Speaker 12: of women from the magazine wanted to test out the
37:28
Speaker 12: new self shuttling option between these two.
37:30
Speaker 14: Units that's.
37:32
Speaker 12: Great, Yeah i'm very excited to try it out and
37:35
Speaker 12: see what. Happens But i'll tell You i'm a little
37:38
Speaker 12: nervous about bringing my mom for two. Reasons so the
37:41
Speaker 12: first being she's not particularly. OUTDOORSY i think she's maybe
37:45
Speaker 12: camped three or four times in her. Life and the
37:48
Speaker 12: other reason The Devil's river is known for being one
37:51
Speaker 12: of the most unforgiving waterways in the state Of. Texas
37:55
Speaker 12: it's extremely, remote practically in the, desert and prone to
37:58
Speaker 12: flash bloods and heavy DOWN i think she'll do totally,
38:02
Speaker 12: fine BUT i really want her to enjoy, yourself AND
38:05
Speaker 12: i don't want to scare her away from future camping.
38:07
Speaker 13: Experiences, WELL i think you're doing all the prep work
38:10
Speaker 13: that you need, to and you know she's going to
38:13
Speaker 13: be fine coming out of.
38:14
Speaker 14: It, well see how it.
38:16
Speaker 12: GOES i, mean she's really an optimistic, person SO i
38:19
Speaker 12: think she'll make it.
38:19
Speaker 1: Okay, WELL i can't wait to hear how it goes me.
38:22
Speaker 12: Too, David AND i Think i'm ready to find out
38:24
Speaker 12: what happens when we go.
38:26
Speaker 14: Outside SO i called up one of the superintendents of
38:29
Speaker 14: the park to give me the inside.
38:30
Speaker 15: SCOOP i Am Kevin. Stafford i'm the site superintendent of
38:35
Speaker 15: The Dan Allen Hughes unit of The Devil River State Natural.
38:39
Speaker 15: Area we are located about twenty miles north Of Del,
38:44
Speaker 15: rio so we're down on the Southern texas. Border, now
38:47
Speaker 15: let's take a little over an hour to get out.
38:48
Speaker 15: Here it's not a straight shot From Del, rio but
38:51
Speaker 15: we are just up The Devil's river From Lake amistad
38:54
Speaker 15: and we actually share our southern border with that.
38:56
Speaker 12: Lake and what's special about The Devil's River State Natural, Area,
39:02
Speaker 12: like what is there to do out?
39:04
Speaker 14: There what's the main?
39:04
Speaker 15: Attraction, well the name of the State naturalia is really
39:09
Speaker 15: the main. Attraction The Devil's river is a springfread. River
39:13
Speaker 15: it is the most pristine riverway In texas and it's
39:16
Speaker 15: a deep canyon that The Springfread river flows. Through we
39:20
Speaker 15: have low traffic through, it so it's not the bumper
39:23
Speaker 15: to bumper inner tubes like The Guadalupe river and stuff
39:27
Speaker 15: In Central. Texas we have several endangered species in the
39:30
Speaker 15: river that we are trying to preserve and, protect and
39:33
Speaker 15: it gives you that field of Wild texas What texas
39:36
Speaker 15: used to be like pre.
39:37
Speaker 14: Development when you say it's pristine what do you, mean,
39:42
Speaker 14: like is it just really clear? Water is it really clean?
39:45
Speaker 15: Water WHEN i say, Pristine i'm talking about water quality
39:49
Speaker 15: and kind of human impact onto. It we don't have
39:53
Speaker 15: a lot of development out. Here there are the old
39:55
Speaker 15: traditional ranches surrounding, it but these are big. Ranches they've
39:58
Speaker 15: been families for a long. Time there are some river
40:01
Speaker 15: cabins and, stuff but there's very minimal human. Impact the
40:05
Speaker 15: water that is feeding The Devil rivers is coming out of.
40:08
Speaker 15: Springs that's all spring. Spread if you think about the
40:11
Speaker 15: big springs like In New Bronze fells are In austin
40:15
Speaker 15: that come out of The edwards Oct we're similar, here
40:18
Speaker 15: but we are in a low human population, area so
40:22
Speaker 15: the water is extremely. Clean we don't recommend people drinking
40:26
Speaker 15: it and stuff like that because it hasn't been, chlorinated
40:29
Speaker 15: but to be, honest it is probably one of the
40:31
Speaker 15: cleanest waters we have In.
40:32
Speaker 12: Texas what's the difference between a state natural area and
40:36
Speaker 12: a state?
40:36
Speaker 14: Park is that? Important it is.
40:39
Speaker 15: Important the main goal Of Texas park And wilocke is
40:42
Speaker 15: to conserve the natural and cultural resources of the state
40:46
Speaker 15: while also providing, opportunities the ability for people to get
40:50
Speaker 15: out and, recreate whether that's, fishing, hiking, hunting, whatever but
40:54
Speaker 15: to get out and do the recreational. Activities when we
40:56
Speaker 15: think of a park and we think of a state natural,
40:59
Speaker 15: area the emphasis shifts a little more towards the conservation.
41:03
Speaker 15: Side for a state natural, area most parks are open
41:07
Speaker 15: seven days a. Week we're open four days a. Week
41:10
Speaker 15: and that is because we're playing this balancing game of
41:13
Speaker 15: letting the natural, resource the, wildlife the, plants the, animals
41:17
Speaker 15: and even the whole a quality ecosystem have time to
41:21
Speaker 15: recover and go back to that natural state away from
41:25
Speaker 15: the human influence and. Impact we also have low visitation.
41:29
Speaker 15: Numbers we don't have a thousand people coming in a
41:31
Speaker 15: day because that would put a heavy impact on the,
41:33
Speaker 15: resource so we keep our visitation down. Load The Devil's
41:37
Speaker 15: river is subdivided into two. Units we have a northern
41:40
Speaker 15: unit called The Deal North Day, unit And i'm at
41:43
Speaker 15: the southern unit called The Dan Allen Hughes. Unit on
41:47
Speaker 15: those The Del North day, unit we allow it to
41:50
Speaker 15: seventy five people a day in and that it's capped
41:53
Speaker 15: to help preserve that natural. Resource here at the southern
41:56
Speaker 15: unit go up to probably a similar number of, this
42:00
Speaker 15: but right now we are still kind of in the development.
42:03
Speaker 15: Stays we're building campgrounds and we're kept at twenty five
42:06
Speaker 15: people a day right, now which is why we are
42:09
Speaker 15: kind of a reservation only visitation.
42:11
Speaker 12: Spot and what's the difference between these two units at
42:17
Speaker 12: The Devil's Riversity Natural? Area is there like a visible?
42:21
Speaker 12: Difference tell me about the distinguishing factors between.
42:25
Speaker 15: Them each unit has a very distinct fide. Book they
42:29
Speaker 15: feel completely. Different, yes to. Both on The Devils river
42:33
Speaker 15: straight line distance twenty miles to get from the headquarters
42:37
Speaker 15: at the Doll And hughes unit to the headquarters of
42:40
Speaker 15: The dalmorte. Unit you're looking at for most people an
42:44
Speaker 15: hour and fifteen to an hour and a half drive
42:47
Speaker 15: to get back to the main highway that connects. Them
42:50
Speaker 15: when you drive into the Del norte, unit you're primarily
42:55
Speaker 15: down in the canyons and, valleys down into kind of
42:59
Speaker 15: the heart of the park that then connects to the.
43:02
Speaker 15: River when you come into The Dan Allen hughes, unit
43:05
Speaker 15: you're up on the top kind of the, plateau the
43:07
Speaker 15: wind swept, area and then you drop down into those
43:11
Speaker 15: valleys to gain river. Access but much of the time
43:14
Speaker 15: you're spending up on the, plateau so you get different.
43:17
Speaker 15: Fills Del norte you're kind of down in the denser,
43:20
Speaker 15: vegetation the trees down in the canyons at The Dan Allen.
43:24
Speaker 15: Hughes you're up on the plateau with the, yuccas the
43:27
Speaker 15: cactie things like, That so they have distinct.
43:30
Speaker 2: Trels and you.
43:32
Speaker 12: Mentioned that the main attraction out there is the river
43:35
Speaker 12: and people like to go see. That OBVIOUSLY i have
43:38
Speaker 12: been out. There it's really really. Pretty it's like the most,
43:41
Speaker 12: gorgeous LIKE i don't know you could tan ish Water
43:46
Speaker 12: i've ever seen In. Texas but what do people actually
43:50
Speaker 12: do in the, River like do people paddle between?
43:53
Speaker 14: Them do people? Swim how do they utilize that?
43:56
Speaker 15: Resource we see various youths on the. River we do
44:00
Speaker 15: have lots of anglers that come out to go. Fishing
44:02
Speaker 15: there's lots of people like to do fly fishing out.
44:04
Speaker 15: Here now we are a protected, water so north Of Lake,
44:09
Speaker 15: amistad which pretty much is both of our, units is
44:13
Speaker 15: a spawning habitat if you want to think of that
44:15
Speaker 15: way for our large and smallmouth. Bass so if they catch,
44:18
Speaker 15: them release only area for those fishes a lot of,
44:21
Speaker 15: people you, know they bring their family, out let kids
44:24
Speaker 15: go swim around in the, river just once you expect
44:26
Speaker 15: with your normal river. Activity at the north Unit Del,
44:30
Speaker 15: norte there are a lot of big Springs finnegan springs
44:34
Speaker 15: that discharge out of the, rocks and the kids love
44:37
Speaker 15: playing in the springs where cascades over the. Rocks most
44:41
Speaker 15: people that come, out when they think of the, dovers
44:43
Speaker 15: they're thinking of a canoe or a kayak trip down the.
44:46
Speaker 15: River when we're looking at the two, parks The Del northey,
44:50
Speaker 15: unit we only have about a mile of river access
44:53
Speaker 15: that the park directly butts up against the. River when
44:56
Speaker 15: we go to the southern, unit we're looking at closer
44:59
Speaker 15: to six miles of riverfront that The State Natural area
45:03
Speaker 15: is adjacent. To, now the distance between the two parks
45:07
Speaker 15: where the public usually is kayaking in your canoe is
45:10
Speaker 15: about sixteen. Miles most of, that of, course is through private.
45:14
Speaker 15: Land so one of the things that we do strongly
45:18
Speaker 15: encourage is please respect the private. Land these are ranchers
45:22
Speaker 15: and families that are adjacent to the. River this is
45:25
Speaker 15: a natural. Waterway people are allowed to go down, it
45:29
Speaker 15: but we've got to remember that the natural waterway in
45:31
Speaker 15: the state Of texas is within the boundaries of that
45:33
Speaker 15: stream or that. River most people won't enjoy the river
45:37
Speaker 15: and they don't want to just rush through as quick
45:39
Speaker 15: as they can and get from one edit to the,
45:41
Speaker 15: other so they will spend two or three days on the.
45:44
Speaker 15: River that, way they can go, swimming they can go,
45:46
Speaker 15: fishing they can just kind of leisurely go down the
45:48
Speaker 15: river and fully enjoy. It while doing, that to make
45:52
Speaker 15: sure we protect the private land owner, rights most people
45:56
Speaker 15: will choose to camp on islands within the river so
45:59
Speaker 15: they're not accidentally trespassing on anybuy's, land or they can
46:02
Speaker 15: stay at one of our paddlers camp that we've. Established
46:05
Speaker 15: we've actually made an agreement with a private landowner to
46:08
Speaker 15: lease some property so that campers can stay there and
46:13
Speaker 15: be in a place there allowed to be without fear of.
46:16
Speaker 15: Trespassing you, know if you lock the, outdoors you like
46:18
Speaker 15: true isolation and you love being on the, water it's
46:22
Speaker 15: hard to pass. Up we're losing spaces like this around the,
46:26
Speaker 15: world and of course here In.
46:27
Speaker 1: Texas SO i.
46:30
Speaker 12: Have had the experience of going out and paddling on
46:33
Speaker 12: The Devil's. River i've taken a big group of my
46:36
Speaker 12: friends out there in the, past and it was not
46:41
Speaker 12: as scary as some people have chalked it up to,
46:44
Speaker 12: be but it was logistically, challenging like just to get out.
46:50
Speaker 12: There how would you characterize the, Trip, like do you
46:53
Speaker 12: think that people should fear it as much as it's?
46:56
Speaker 12: Described what would you advise visitors who are one to
47:00
Speaker 12: do something like.
47:01
Speaker 15: THAT i don't think this is something to. Fear but
47:05
Speaker 15: you need to be comfortable in the. Outdoors you will
47:08
Speaker 15: be on the, river you will be in remote. Areas
47:11
Speaker 15: if you use basic, safety then it is perfectly sound
47:16
Speaker 15: and a great recreational. Opportunity you know where your life.
47:19
Speaker 15: Best you don't know when your kayak might tumble, over
47:22
Speaker 15: so where your life and enjoy the. Experience you're on
47:26
Speaker 15: the water the whole, time so you're kind of down
47:29
Speaker 15: in the, canyon kind of protecting from the. Sun a
47:31
Speaker 15: lot of the. TIME i will say that sometimes the
47:33
Speaker 15: wind gets a little strong coming up that, canyon so
47:35
Speaker 15: you met that paddle a little harder than you want
47:37
Speaker 15: to some. Days but if you're, lucky the next, day
47:40
Speaker 15: the one's coming from your, backside you have to paddle
47:41
Speaker 15: less that. Day but really there's not much to. Fear
47:45
Speaker 15: many sections you can easily walk. Through the water is
47:49
Speaker 15: not that. Deep there are going to be those deeper
47:51
Speaker 15: pools where you can really enjoy kind of jumping in
47:53
Speaker 15: and splashing and swimming. Around but then you also got
47:56
Speaker 15: long stretches that are just, beautiful crystal, clear shallow water
48:00
Speaker 15: that you can just leisurely paddle.
48:01
Speaker 12: Through we have not had The Dana hughes unit in
48:05
Speaker 12: our possession for very, long have.
48:06
Speaker 15: We we have not headed in our possession for a
48:09
Speaker 15: very long. Time, yes and it hasn't been open to
48:11
Speaker 15: the public for but a few.
48:13
Speaker 12: Months and what's the significance of having more public land
48:18
Speaker 12: in this area and on this.
48:20
Speaker 15: Waterway there as various perspectives on. That, obviously one of
48:24
Speaker 15: the biggest significance is we are taking another large tract
48:29
Speaker 15: to land and we're. Conserving we're making sure this resource
48:33
Speaker 15: is not accessible for people, today but it will remain
48:37
Speaker 15: accessible for future. Generations as part of, that the conservation
48:41
Speaker 15: plan is going to be there for the next generation
48:45
Speaker 15: so that it doesn't become contaminated or degraded over. Time
48:49
Speaker 15: we're trying to preserve that. Resource. Now the other thing
48:53
Speaker 15: from a more accessibility standpoint is by having the two
48:57
Speaker 15: units with a significant river in between, them it now
49:02
Speaker 15: enables people to what we call self. Shuttling people can
49:07
Speaker 15: actually stage a vehicle at the Dan Allen hughes. Unit
49:11
Speaker 15: they can then drive up to the north, unit put
49:14
Speaker 15: their kayaks into the, river and then float down to
49:17
Speaker 15: the other, unit so they can kind of see the
49:19
Speaker 15: river on their own. Timescale they can have a little
49:23
Speaker 15: more flexibility in their planning by being able to stage
49:26
Speaker 15: vehicles at both ends if you've got a group. Coming
49:28
Speaker 15: in the, past because the southern, unit The Danland Hughes,
49:32
Speaker 15: unit was closed to the, public the only way that
49:36
Speaker 15: it could be accessed was through private concessionaires and things
49:40
Speaker 15: like that that could get into the. Property so this
49:42
Speaker 15: really it opens up the accessibility to a much wider.
49:46
Speaker 14: Audience that's self shuttling. Ability is that something we can
49:51
Speaker 14: go out and do.
49:51
Speaker 15: Now we can do it now it is. Available we
49:55
Speaker 15: are still working out some of the minor details AS i,
49:58
Speaker 15: say with. It LIKE i, said The daniel And hughes
50:01
Speaker 15: unit has only been open Since january of this, year
50:05
Speaker 15: so we're still working on. It we're still building campground
50:07
Speaker 15: here at The State Natural area That i'm part. Of
50:10
Speaker 15: but you have the ability to do, that and we've
50:12
Speaker 15: already seen several people over the past couple of months
50:16
Speaker 15: take advantage of. That it takes a little more planning
50:19
Speaker 15: on the part of the individuals because you've got to
50:21
Speaker 15: be able to stage a vehicle at both. Units but,
50:25
Speaker 15: realistically it's always going to be a little bit of
50:28
Speaker 15: logistic that goes into visiting The Devil's, river whether you
50:31
Speaker 15: go through a concessionaire or you arrange for self.
50:33
Speaker 12: Shuttling and prior to becoming a park, superintendent you had
50:39
Speaker 12: a different career.
50:40
Speaker 14: Path is that?
50:40
Speaker 15: RIGHT i had a very different career. Path, yes that is.
50:44
Speaker 1: Correct what were you?
50:45
Speaker 15: DOING i was a hydro geology professor At STEVEN. F
50:51
Speaker 15: Austin State, university so that's in Far East, texas almost
50:54
Speaker 15: In louisiana's And. Macdesia's SO i taught, hydrology hydro, geology,
51:00
Speaker 15: groundwater pretty much everything On sourciut with, water AND i
51:04
Speaker 15: focus heavily on WHAT i call karst. Research and karst
51:09
Speaker 15: is just a gentle term that describes land that's filled
51:13
Speaker 15: with caves and springs and the whole connecting of. Water so,
51:18
Speaker 15: actually by coming To Devils. RIVER i now get to
51:22
Speaker 15: live in the exact environment THAT i was teaching.
51:25
Speaker 14: About how.
51:27
Speaker 12: Cool and is there anything about The Devil's river and
51:30
Speaker 12: The Dana Hues unit in particular that's particularly interesting from
51:34
Speaker 12: a hydro geological, Standpoint.
51:37
Speaker 15: Well, definitely we are still at the infancy of understanding
51:41
Speaker 15: how that all the groundwater is circulating through. Here it
51:43
Speaker 15: is extremely. Complex but just the numerous springs that are
51:48
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Speaker 15: deep water circulation flow. Pass we also have the surface
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Speaker 15: where there's evidence that there's probably some caves out. Here
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Speaker 15: we haven't found a, lot but it's a, complex interconnected.
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Speaker 15: in the past and has then kind of. Rejuvenated it's
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Speaker 15: species and muscle species that are unique to this. Area
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Speaker 15: so it's a beautifully complex area that we can only
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Speaker 15: learn more.
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Speaker 14: About can you give me a few examples of those unique.
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Speaker 15: Species, well there's The Devil's river pup fish that kind
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Speaker 15: is a freshwater, mussel And i'm not a muscle, expert
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Speaker 15: SO i cannot remember the name of. It and, then
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Speaker 15: of course the river is unique in that it provides
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Speaker 15: this large scale spawning ground for lots of smaller fishs
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Speaker 15: and bass species and. Stuff it's a stable habitat that
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Speaker 15: the local fauna has learned over millennia to utilize as
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