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The Video Proves It Was Self-Defense: Liz Collin Exposes the ICE Shooting "Murder" Hoax · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: What you're about to watch is actively being lied about
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Speaker 1: by city leaders, by the national media, and by people
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Speaker 1: who want chaos instead of the truth. Last week of Minneapolis,
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Speaker 1: an ice agent was hit by a car. There's a
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Speaker 1: video from the agent's own cell phone proving it. You
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Speaker 1: can hear the engine rev you could hear the command drive,
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Speaker 1: baby drive, and yet politicians and cable networks are still
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Speaker 1: telling you it never happened. Why is that that lie
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Speaker 1: has consequences Because while they pretend it didn't happen, mobs
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Speaker 1: are stalking federal agents at their homes, They're breaking into hotels,
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Speaker 1: blocking roads, and the local police are being ordered to
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Speaker 1: stand down. But that's not the most disturbing part. In
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Speaker 1: this interview. You're going to hear investigative journalist Liz Colin
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Speaker 1: reveal why federal authorities have now stepped in and why
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Speaker 1: serious questions are resurfacing about elon Omar's citizenship that have
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Speaker 1: never been answered ever. This is in partisan. It's about
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Speaker 1: the truth and what happens when an entire city is
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Speaker 1: pushed into an alternative reality.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of an alternate reality here, Joe, But
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Speaker 2: we've talked about that, I think again and again, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we were able to obtain that cell phone video that
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Speaker 2: shows from the agent's point of view what took place
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Speaker 2: last Wednesday with Renee Good. You can clearly hear he's
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Speaker 2: hit by the vehicle, the engine is revving. You have
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Speaker 2: Renee's wife saying, drive, baby, drive. You can hear that
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Speaker 2: on that cell phone clip. Also, and DHS release video
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Speaker 2: on Saturday with a little bit more of the story
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Speaker 2: as well, showing that that vehicle was parked there for
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Speaker 2: several minutes. Many vehicles were actually part of this blockade
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Speaker 2: and they are honking their horns and creating this very
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Speaker 2: chaotic scene throughout that Minneapolis neighborhood on Wednesday morning. I
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Speaker 2: will say we have very good sources over at Alphinews
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Speaker 2: because we really are dedicated to telling the truth. You
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Speaker 2: can see again and again each day how the mainstream
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Speaker 2: media and Minnesota is framing this thing, doing their best
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Speaker 2: to continue to incite a lot of this and fan
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Speaker 2: the flames rather than simply telling the truth about what
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Speaker 2: took place that morning. So that's a little bit more
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Speaker 2: about out how we obtained the video. But again, you know,
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Speaker 2: with a lot of these incidents, it's so important just
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Speaker 2: to release what is out there. We have seen the crowds.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of money pouring in to Minneapolis, and
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Speaker 2: we have a well organized activist activist groups that take
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Speaker 2: the streets in these situations. But I do think that
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Speaker 2: the video helped to change many minds.
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Speaker 3: If there were questions, I.
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Speaker 1: Think so as well. I compared and contrasted to your
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Speaker 1: coverage of George Floyd had the bodycam video been released
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Speaker 1: though George Floyd, immediately, you probably don't have riots in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why we all saw he was in
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Speaker 1: the car. He said, I can't be in the car
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Speaker 1: in claustrophobic and Chauvin says, we'll bring you to the ground.
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Speaker 1: He says, yeah, bring me to the ground. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if we see all of that, and then we know
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Speaker 1: about the Feednyl and his system and so on, you
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Speaker 1: probably don't have this so called summer of love. This
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Speaker 1: was out there pretty quickly. The first video we saw,
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Speaker 1: we see the one agent trying to open her door
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Speaker 1: because he said get out of the car. She doesn't
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Speaker 1: get out, and then he puts his arm in the
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Speaker 1: in the actual vehicle, she puts it in reverse, puts
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Speaker 1: it and we can't really see the other ice agent,
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Speaker 1: because in the foreground is the first ice agent. The
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Speaker 1: second video we see is from overhead through some trees,
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Speaker 1: where you clearly see him being pushed away by the car.
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Speaker 1: He got hit by it, but it's a far shot.
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Speaker 1: It's a really long shot. The one that you release
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Speaker 1: shows definitively unless the guy is such a good actor
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Speaker 1: and flint. Second, he thought to himself, let me pretend
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Speaker 1: on my camera that I'm being hit and then shoot
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Speaker 1: this lady. Of course that can't happen, so definitively we
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Speaker 1: know he was struck by the vehicle. Jacob Fry has
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Speaker 1: to admit that now. So what he says is, oh,
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Speaker 1: it was like he got hit by by a refrigerator door,
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Speaker 1: no problem. He danced away or he jogged away jolly
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Speaker 1: or something like that. So is it on him? Is
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Speaker 1: it on walls? Is it on the people who aren't
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Speaker 1: critically thinking? Whose fault? Is it? That if you and
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Speaker 1: I go out there right now, that people on the
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Speaker 1: streets will still say that he wasn't hit, that he
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Speaker 1: executed her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah again, I think it's it's sort of like people
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Speaker 2: have their their minds made up and they don't want
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Speaker 2: Sometimes the facts. Common sense is not common among these groups.
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Speaker 2: I think we see that as well. We saw thirty
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Speaker 2: people arrested over the weekend Joe in Minneapolis. They were
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Speaker 2: damaging property to downtown hotels, blocking traffic. They went into
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Speaker 2: hotels that they thought ICE agents were staying, breaking windows,
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Speaker 2: spray painting buildings. Many tense situations still playing out on
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Speaker 2: the streets today. They're following ICE agents doing their jobs,
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Speaker 2: and there's a lot more of them here.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: We have these paid ICE agitators, but they're getting in
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Speaker 2: their way, creating chaos. Many videos out there on x
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Speaker 2: mobs of people attempting to block traffic, record ICE officers.
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Speaker 2: I can see for myselves just the databases they keep
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Speaker 2: in real time of what they're doing to basically stock
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Speaker 2: these officers and keep them from doing their jobs.
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Speaker 3: Here in Minnesota, it.
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Speaker 1: Is Liz Collin. Go to Alphanus dot Orgalfanues dot org,
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Speaker 1: go follow her Liz coln over two els I n
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Speaker 1: over On. Actually's a great follow incredible report, incredible anchor,
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Speaker 1: incredible journalist. So as we're watching this unfold, we find
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Speaker 1: out more about the actual ICE agent. We find out
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Speaker 1: this is the same guy that in Minnesota was dragged
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Speaker 1: by an illegal alien trying to get away from him,
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Speaker 1: thirty some odd stitches in his leg and comes back
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Speaker 1: on the job. And he's back in Minnesota and he's
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Speaker 1: doing the job again, and now he's vilified. He's married
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Speaker 1: to this doesn't matter, but he's married to an immigrant,
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Speaker 1: So you can't say he's anti immigrant. He's a guy
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Speaker 1: who actually put his life on the line that day
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Speaker 1: being dragged by an illegal alien. Yet somehow we're supposed
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Speaker 1: to believe he's a Nazi from nineteen forty three. Again,
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Speaker 1: we're not going to break through the mindset of the
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Speaker 1: idiots that pay people to go and do what they're
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Speaker 1: gonna do. Why do you think that people of Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: the good people of Minnesota, those who are falling for
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Speaker 1: the okie duck buy into an idiot like Jacob Fry
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Speaker 1: My word, Nott, youre is the idiot. He's dancing around
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Speaker 1: with the Somali flag, he's eating Somali food, looks like
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Speaker 1: he can't hit limp, he's pretending he can. He's speaking
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Speaker 1: Somali on these videos. Why are they buying his his act?
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. This is a guy from Northern Virginia, Liz.
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Speaker 1: He's not some guy from Minneapolis born and raised. He's
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Speaker 1: some activists from like Alexandria who showed up in Minnesota
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Speaker 1: to sort of push that progressive way. Why are they
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Speaker 1: buying him?
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Speaker 2: You know, I think it's pretty convenient timing too, and
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Speaker 2: you would hope people have more common sense than this Joe.
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Speaker 2: They're trying to deflect from this massive fraud investigation, massive
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Speaker 2: frauds that that are being investigated, I should say, by
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Speaker 2: the federal government at this point. You can clearly see
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Speaker 2: how they're trying to deflect that by now. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is something that I've questioned myself for
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Speaker 2: a long time. But I will say that I hear
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Speaker 2: from so many Minnesotans on a daily, gosh, on an
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Speaker 2: hourly basis, frankly, that say, you know, thank you for
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Speaker 2: speaking up for us. They're embarrassed by looking at these
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Speaker 2: scenes as well. So this is not something that speaks
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Speaker 2: to what most of us believe here. In fact, recent
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Speaker 2: polling suggests that most people support the ice efforts in Minnesota.
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Speaker 2: We recently ran a poll about just.
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Speaker 1: That it is illegal to block the road, it's illegal
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Speaker 1: to obstruct justice, it's illegal to get in the way
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Speaker 1: of a federal officer doing his or her job. All
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Speaker 1: of that is illegal. But now you've got a police
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Speaker 1: chief and this Brian O'Hara guy, who I think things
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Speaker 1: he's Somali two, who will not help ICE, will not
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Speaker 1: go and arrest people for breaking local ordinances or city code.
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Speaker 1: He won't go and make sure people understand that your
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Speaker 1: First Amendment doesn't cover you beeping your horn for three
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Speaker 1: straight minutes like renee Good did and blocking the ability
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Speaker 1: of ICE agents to do their jobs. So, if you've
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Speaker 1: got no local law enforcement, then they show up on
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Speaker 1: CNN O'Hara and Fry and say, well, nobody let us
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Speaker 1: know how many or coming. Nobody even contacted us. Why
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Speaker 1: would the federal government contact them? So I guess a
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Speaker 1: long question shorter. If they're not going to uphold the
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Speaker 1: law through law enforcement in Minneapolis and through the state
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Speaker 1: of Minnesota, I sketch to do it, they just do.
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Speaker 1: So what's the argument from these people that are in
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Speaker 1: power in that city that they don't have to help ICE? Whatsoe?
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Speaker 1: Even the guy in Shoice, after that stupid call that
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Speaker 1: said we're not going to give you assistant, said these
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Speaker 1: ICE agents are our law enforcement officers. We're going to
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Speaker 1: support them. We're going to give them back up. They
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Speaker 1: are our brothers in blue. Even they get it in Chicago.
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Speaker 1: For God's sake, what is it going to take for
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Speaker 1: these people in Minneapolis or in Minnesota understand, either get
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Speaker 1: out of the way, because I think, oh, this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: I think Ohera and Fry can be arrested for getting
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Speaker 1: in the way as well. I think Walls can be
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Speaker 1: arrested for inciting all of this.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's again why so many people are
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Speaker 2: so thankful that the federal government is here taking a
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Speaker 2: look at all of this. They've kind of come in
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Speaker 2: here to go ahead and investigate so many different things
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Speaker 2: all at once. You almost need a federal takeover to
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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this. But let me just
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Speaker 2: highlight a couple other things, Joe, that were said this
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Speaker 2: week here. And you had Congresswoman Ilhan Omar had plenty
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Speaker 2: to say to protesters. She said this, we are going
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Speaker 2: to make sure that these people pay for what they
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Speaker 2: have done to us, referring to Ice. And you also
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Speaker 2: have our Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, who's running for a
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Speaker 2: Senate seat now at the moment, but she's serving under walls.
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Speaker 2: She told the crowd this weekend to put their bodies
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Speaker 2: on the line. These are their words.
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Speaker 3: I agree.
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Speaker 2: There is so much there to talk about, how they
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Speaker 2: continue to incite this and what you have to go
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Speaker 2: ahead and recognize just the irony. Also, the state is
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Speaker 2: so upset that the Feds will not let them investigate
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Speaker 2: this incident. Right, We've heard a lot about that, the
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Speaker 2: FBI taking over the investigation into the shooting death of
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Speaker 2: Renee Good, and local officials. Mayor Fry are saying, you know,
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Speaker 2: they don't trust trust the federal government. Well, I'm pretty
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Speaker 2: sure that feeling is mutual from the Fed's coming in.
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Speaker 2: And just to highlight that point, you had the BCA
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Speaker 2: in charge of the investigation into the death of George Floyd.
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Speaker 3: Well what happened.
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Speaker 2: It took six months for them to go back to
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Speaker 2: the vehicle of George Floyd where they then recovered pills
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Speaker 2: containing methemphetamine and feanolouldn't that had been nice to know
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Speaker 2: early on in the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're right, I mean, you nailed it. I'm going
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Speaker 1: to add to it a little bit when you say,
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Speaker 1: get the f out of our city, we don't want
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Speaker 1: you here. When you're the police chief and you say,
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Speaker 1: if you see somebody who's dressed as law enforcement, they
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Speaker 1: might not really be law enforcement. They could be kidnapping
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Speaker 1: somebody called nine to one one. Why the blank would
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Speaker 1: anybody in the federal government trust anybody in the local
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Speaker 1: government to work with And by the way, there is
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Speaker 1: no requirement for the federal government to include anybody in Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: none at all. Have they worked together before. Sure, somebody
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Speaker 1: robs a bank, it's a federal crime, you work together
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Speaker 1: with the local law enforcement. I get that. But when
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Speaker 1: you preemptively say we hate you, we're not going to
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Speaker 1: help you, we think you're disgusting, We're going to call
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Speaker 1: nine one one on you, and people should put their
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Speaker 1: bodies in front of you. Why would you then say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we had a shooting in your city. You want to
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Speaker 1: work together. You wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Else say Joe, that I hear from cops all the
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Speaker 2: time across the states, specifically in Minneapolis too, that they're
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Speaker 2: embarrassed by what has been allowed to play out and
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Speaker 2: just demoralized at these scenes. They were there on Friday night.
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Speaker 2: They want to start arrest these people are breaking windows,
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Speaker 2: at hotels in downtown Minneapolis. Well, what happens. The DNR
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Speaker 2: officers are out there in the state patrol and MPD
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Speaker 2: has to basically go hands off and get out of there.
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Speaker 2: You actually had the police chief on camera what I
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Speaker 2: would call retreating back to the squad cars being chased
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Speaker 2: out of there by a mob.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why he was there is to try
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Speaker 1: to get the squad car out of the mob that
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Speaker 1: they've allowed to happen. It's such a strange circular screw
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Speaker 1: up in Minnesota right now. It blows my mind. I
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Speaker 1: want to get into Tim Walls and whether his job
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Speaker 1: is on the line, because you're starting to hear some
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Speaker 1: rumblings out of the state legislature. But you mentioned elon Omar.
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Speaker 1: I've got to talk to you about this because there
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Speaker 1: was a measure brought up by Nancy Mace in the
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Speaker 1: US House of Representatives to just see the immigration records
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Speaker 1: of elan Omar, and it was turned down by both
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Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats. And then they came back and said,
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Speaker 1: if you asked nicely, maybe we can see it. Liz,
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Speaker 1: in your reporting in what you know, is there a
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Speaker 1: question about whether she was ever even naturalized.
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Speaker 2: There are many questions that that still remain unanswered. There's
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Speaker 2: an awful lot of evidence there Joe to say that
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Speaker 2: she did not Her birth date in fact changes basically
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Speaker 2: overnight when someone brought this to the attention of her
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Speaker 2: office years ago, basically saying that she was not eighteen
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Speaker 2: at the time. And we've done many stories about this,
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Speaker 2: not only that, but committing what one would consider to
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Speaker 2: be immigration fraud by basically marrying her brother so he
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Speaker 2: could be a US citizen. An awful lot of documentation
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Speaker 2: about that as well. So she's up there with with,
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Speaker 2: you know, one of the many in Minnesota that I
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Speaker 2: think many people would would like to just are their
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Speaker 2: consequences for these you know, lives, for these frauds, ongoing
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Speaker 2: frauds on many levels.
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Speaker 1: Joe, I know how good you are at what you do.
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Speaker 1: Have you seen paperwork that she's been naturalized. Have you
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Speaker 1: seen pictures of her waving the American flag, happy at
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Speaker 1: the ceremony? Have you seen anything that would suggest she's
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Speaker 1: a naturalized American citizen.
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Speaker 2: No, there's nothing along those lines at all to support anything.
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Speaker 2: Aj Kern, in fact, is the name of the woman
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Speaker 2: who brought this to light. And I recently interviewed her
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Speaker 2: and she went through all of her documentation. She has
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Speaker 2: spent years following the trail. But you're right, there is
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Speaker 2: nothing to suggest that there was any type of ceremony
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Speaker 2: or anything that that happened claiming that she became naturalized
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Speaker 2: through her father. And there's no paperwork to even suggest
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Speaker 2: that he was ever a US citizen. In fact, a
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Speaker 2: lot of evidence to point to the fact that he
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Speaker 2: never was a US citizen. So how could she then,
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Speaker 2: you know, be a citizen.
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Speaker 1: Well, she couldn't. It is Liz Collins, Senior reporter Alpha
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Speaker 1: Neus at alphaus dot org. Follow Liz and alphaanus over
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Speaker 1: on X. I saw her on with Jake Tapper or somebody.
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Speaker 1: I think it was Tapper, maybe not. It was some
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Speaker 1: idiot over on CNN. My word again, not yours. And
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Speaker 1: she's sitting there and she literally said, this ice agent
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Speaker 1: dove in front of the car so that he can
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Speaker 1: shoot Renee Good. This is Omar sitting there, and Jake
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Speaker 1: Tapper has seen the video that you released. He knows
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Speaker 1: that the officer was hit, he knows that it was
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Speaker 1: in self defense. He doesn't push back whatsoever. So I
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Speaker 1: mean that's just me making a statement. But let me
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Speaker 1: ask you this. It's a rhetorical softball, Liz, but I
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Speaker 1: want you to hit it out of the park. Why
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Speaker 1: do you think Jake Tapper and Dana Bash and all
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Speaker 1: these idiots on these networks they just want to kiss
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Speaker 1: up to the left. Why don't they just look at
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Speaker 1: her and let her answer the question, did you marry
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Speaker 1: your brother to help him immigrate? Here? Just look her
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Speaker 1: in the face and say, did you marry your brother?
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Speaker 1: Why don't they do that?
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Speaker 2: I think you're afraid perhaps at the answers. This is
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Speaker 2: the basically the environment that I left after being a
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Speaker 2: reporter and anchor in corporate media in Minnesota for fifteen years.
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Speaker 3: Don't ever expect questions.
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Speaker 2: Like that from the robotic media of Minnesota. In fact,
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Speaker 2: I was highlighting just on my X page recently, Joe,
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Speaker 2: about how they're covering this shooting. I encourage people to
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Speaker 2: see that for themselves. But you have reporters on the
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Speaker 2: scene of these faced offs with ice agents and they're
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Speaker 2: talking about how the agents open fire on them. Well,
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Speaker 2: they're you know, deploying tear gas right to get the
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Speaker 2: crowds back. But this is how they're phrasing this as
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Speaker 2: if they're at war with these ICE agents. Again, just
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Speaker 2: trying to incite all of this. And you also have
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Speaker 2: the newspaper, the Star Tribune and Fox nine, which is
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Speaker 2: the Fox affiliate here. They would like to hear of
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Speaker 2: different ICE reports in the community so they can know
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Speaker 2: about them. They're encouraging people to shoot video tell us
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Speaker 2: where this is happening, and you know, we'll go ahead
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Speaker 2: and keep you anonymous, but we want to see these
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Speaker 2: standoffs in real time.
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Speaker 3: It's really quite sick, to be honest.
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Speaker 1: What mind boggles me is that you saw a CBS
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Speaker 1: reporter out there the other day shut down during the
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Speaker 1: live shot because she was being shouted down during the
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Speaker 1: live shot. This is CBS, for God's sakes, and still
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Speaker 1: CBS isn't saying these people are nuts, these people are
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Speaker 1: out of control and ICE needs more support. And then
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Speaker 1: I saw Ali Bradley, my friend from NewsNation, was just
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Speaker 1: sitting there getting just got done doing a live shot.
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Speaker 1: Some woman started screaming at her, very thick Minnesota accent.
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Speaker 1: She was obviously a local, screaming at her the F word.
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Speaker 1: This the F word that some guys taking the video
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Speaker 1: and Ali because of her safety had to say to
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Speaker 1: her cameraman, let's go to a different position. We can't
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Speaker 1: stay here. So even with the media seeing the media
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Speaker 1: being treated like crap, I mean, is this is this
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Speaker 1: weird suicidal empathy so deep in the media that they
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Speaker 1: can't even say, hey, they've turned on us as well.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we should take a different slant on this.
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Speaker 2: You bring up some great points, Joe, I really cannot
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Speaker 2: understand it for the life of me.
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Speaker 3: But but yeah, to kind.
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Speaker 2: Of you see this like cheerleading behavior, to sort of
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Speaker 2: cheer this on, right, and this, you know, pitting themselves
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Speaker 2: against the federal government really makes no sense to me.
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Speaker 2: It seems to be the message should be, you know,
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Speaker 2: that we should not interfere with law enforcement and the
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Speaker 2: job that they're doing. Seems like a simple enough message.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it has certainly helped for us to
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Speaker 2: just report the news and get the facts.
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Speaker 3: Out there over on Alpha News.
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Speaker 2: So in a way, it's perhaps it's a job security
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Speaker 2: for what we're trying to do each and every day.
17:20
Speaker 1: Well, it is a job security for me too, because
17:22
Speaker 1: we're alway going to tell the truth. It's Liz Collin
17:23
Speaker 1: go to Alphanus dot org and go follow her at
17:25
Speaker 1: Liz Collin over on X. I want to finish with
17:28
Speaker 1: this when it comes to the media, and I wonder
17:30
Speaker 1: if you think this is a fair comparison. I remember
17:32
Speaker 1: BLM Black Lives Matter, that very far left Marxist LGBTQ
17:36
Speaker 1: organization that doesn't care about black lives. They were rioting
17:40
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and one guy was on the local news
17:43
Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock that night and he said, I can't
17:45
Speaker 1: believe that they shot holes in my windows, and they
17:48
Speaker 1: stole this out of my yard and they ruined this
17:51
Speaker 1: that or the other that was in the yard. I've
17:53
Speaker 1: got my BLM flag up. Didn't they see I'm a supporter,
17:57
Speaker 1: I'm an ally Why did they do this to me?
17:59
Speaker 1: It's almost that's what we're seeing from the media in Minnesota.
18:02
Speaker 1: It's like they want to say, don't worry, I'm on
18:04
Speaker 1: your side, but they can't say that on camera on CBS.
18:07
Speaker 1: It's like they're blown away. Why are you coming after us?
18:09
Speaker 1: We're the good guys. Are they starting to realize that,
18:12
Speaker 1: you think, Liz, is there a chance they'll realize that
18:14
Speaker 1: you can put any flag out that you want. They're
18:16
Speaker 1: still going to do bad people will still do bad things,
18:19
Speaker 1: or you think the media in that town is never
18:20
Speaker 1: gonna wake up.
18:22
Speaker 3: You know, I thought by now they would.
18:24
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it would take for them to
18:25
Speaker 2: do so, but I will say that many of our
18:28
Speaker 2: best tips come from mainstream media report.
18:31
Speaker 3: Really, what does that tell you?
18:32
Speaker 2: They sort of know, you know, what they can and
18:35
Speaker 2: can't report. So I think that's always a pretty telling
18:40
Speaker 2: telling detail there, Joe. I think many of them are
18:43
Speaker 2: upset with what takes place on a day to day basis.
18:45
Speaker 2: There is still some good reporting that that happens here
18:48
Speaker 2: and there, but really on a wide scale, it's pretty rough.
18:54
Speaker 2: And many of these these folks actually believe this. You know,
18:57
Speaker 2: they're they're really not journalists, they're activists at this point.
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Speaker 1: Not agree more, Liz Colin, all right, Liz, let's talk
19:02
Speaker 1: about Minnesota fraud. For the past several days, since Renee
19:04
Speaker 1: Good was shot and killed because she ran her car
19:07
Speaker 1: into a police into an ice agent, we haven't talked
19:10
Speaker 1: about Minnesota fraud much at all. You see Jacob Frye
19:12
Speaker 1: and Brian O'Hara and Tim Walls finding any camera they
19:15
Speaker 1: can to talk about the Gestapo ice and about Hitler.
19:18
Speaker 1: Is Trump and so on, and this is a war
19:21
Speaker 1: between Minnesota and Washington. I don't think they had anything
19:25
Speaker 1: to do with the death of Renee Good. I'm not
19:26
Speaker 1: suggesting that, but this is like what rom Emmanuel said,
19:29
Speaker 1: never let a serious crisis go to waste. They have
19:32
Speaker 1: been able to brush under the rug, at least openly.
19:34
Speaker 1: Maybe you're gonna tell me that it's different, maybe underneath things,
19:37
Speaker 1: but they've brushed under the rug all of this fraud.
19:40
Speaker 1: And there's massive I heard a number one hundred and
19:42
Speaker 1: twenty billion dollars possible just in Minnesota in fraud. I
19:45
Speaker 1: don't know how real that is, but they have been
19:47
Speaker 1: able to get that off the front pages. Is there
19:49
Speaker 1: still investigating going on when it comes to the fraud
19:51
Speaker 1: in Minnesota? Where are we on that?
19:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think they're just in the early stages
19:56
Speaker 2: of the fraud investigations, to be quite honest, Joe, we
19:59
Speaker 2: had the Treasuries Secretary in town.
20:00
Speaker 3: He was here on Friday.
20:01
Speaker 2: I was part of a round table as he was
20:05
Speaker 2: talking about what they were doing to crack down on
20:07
Speaker 2: wire frauds specifically, he was highlighting and some other maneuvers
20:10
Speaker 2: they've made within the Treasury. But What was interesting is
20:14
Speaker 2: David was a part of this panel. We now know
20:16
Speaker 2: him as just David, but he's a part of that.
20:18
Speaker 2: Nick Shirley the viral video, and he talked about how
20:22
Speaker 2: there is supposed to be today, in fact, Monday, another
20:25
Speaker 2: video that he described as ten times worse than the
20:29
Speaker 2: one we already saw surrounding Somali fraud in Minnesota. So no,
20:33
Speaker 2: many of us anxiously are waiting to see that. We
20:36
Speaker 2: put out recently some developments, and it does seem that
20:39
Speaker 2: there are some things happening. But the Minneapolis school district,
20:44
Speaker 2: their finance director was recently placed on leave, and we've
20:47
Speaker 2: been doing some investigating into the transportation contracts within that
20:51
Speaker 2: school district, and all of a sudden, this guy is
20:54
Speaker 2: placed on leave and he's up for a job in Milwaukee,
20:58
Speaker 2: and we make some phone calls about these developments, and
21:01
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's no.
21:02
Speaker 3: Longer in the running for that job.
21:03
Speaker 2: So I encourage people to check out our reporting over
21:05
Speaker 2: a over at Elphin News. But this is a spider web,
21:10
Speaker 2: it does seem, but a lot more of this is
21:13
Speaker 2: bubbling to the surface. And again I don't think the
21:15
Speaker 2: fens here are messing around. They have an awful lot
21:18
Speaker 2: of tentacles in place in the state.
21:20
Speaker 1: It's not Liz Colin. Liz, as you know, I'm a
21:22
Speaker 1: former television news anchor. I did the job pretty well,
21:24
Speaker 1: not as good as you. But I want a bunch
21:26
Speaker 1: of omarriganin journalist. IM like, get how journalism works. I'll
21:30
Speaker 1: tell you this. If I were covering this story, and
21:32
Speaker 1: I wonder if you agree with this, and I definitely
21:33
Speaker 1: want you to expand upon this. If I were covering
21:36
Speaker 1: this story and Wall said, man, we got to get
21:38
Speaker 1: to the bottom of this fraud. Somali community, any community.
21:41
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is. This isn't any good.
21:43
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to the bottom of it. If Fry said, man, fraud,
21:46
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's a Somali community, whoever hell
21:48
Speaker 1: it is. They're stealing money from Minnesota's They're stealing American
21:51
Speaker 1: tax payer money. We're going to get to the bottom
21:52
Speaker 1: of it. If they did that, I as a reporter
21:55
Speaker 1: would not have my spidy senses going off. But what
21:58
Speaker 1: makes them go off for me, and I'm for you
22:00
Speaker 1: as well, is when Wall says this is a problem
22:03
Speaker 1: with white men. When Wall says, this community is Minnesota.
22:07
Speaker 1: When Fry starts eating food that he clearly doesn't like
22:10
Speaker 1: and doing Somali dances and doing videos in Somali in
22:14
Speaker 1: the language, when you've got Brian O'Hara talking about our
22:16
Speaker 1: neighbors and call the police if you see somebody picking
22:19
Speaker 1: somebody up, Liz, My spotty sensors are going off that
22:23
Speaker 1: these people, if they're not all connected to what's going
22:26
Speaker 1: on fraudulently, then they're just really really stupid. So I
22:29
Speaker 1: don't think they're really dumb guys. So all of that said,
22:32
Speaker 1: because I know that you're a straight line reporter, maybe
22:34
Speaker 1: you won't give me an opinion. Maybe you'll give me
22:35
Speaker 1: a little bit. But is there any information connecting Tim
22:39
Speaker 1: Walls and Jacob Fry and Brian O'Hara and Peggy flanagan
22:43
Speaker 1: to the Somali fraud?
22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, I guess what you're saying about the messaging
22:50
Speaker 2: I think has been very telling. They've either remain silent
22:54
Speaker 2: on the fraud issue or twisted this all up into
22:57
Speaker 2: race or some sort of deflection that it that.
23:00
Speaker 3: Is taking place. That is quite telling.
23:02
Speaker 2: Tim Walls has been a governor for seven years. There
23:05
Speaker 2: is no way that he wasn't aware of this. In fact,
23:08
Speaker 2: we've heard from so many whistleblowers at this point that
23:11
Speaker 2: said they in fact asked for meetings with Governor Tim
23:14
Speaker 2: Walls to talk about what was happening within DHS, and
23:19
Speaker 2: those meetings were declined. Not only that, but they wouldn't
23:22
Speaker 2: even reply to emails and different things that were brought
23:26
Speaker 2: to light and to the surface. So and we we
23:28
Speaker 2: have people within Mayor Jacob Fries inner circle that were
23:32
Speaker 2: clearly connected to the to this as well. So there's
23:35
Speaker 2: just no possible way that this wasn't known at that level.
23:39
Speaker 3: I have no doubt.
23:39
Speaker 2: However, you were a great television anchor. He probably didn't
23:43
Speaker 2: have to spend as much time as I do on
23:44
Speaker 2: my hair.
23:45
Speaker 1: By the way, Joe, but nowhere near a quick to
23:49
Speaker 1: go yeah it is that, Liz Colin. Go to Alphanus
23:52
Speaker 1: dot org Alphanues dot org. As we talk about it,
23:55
Speaker 1: more fraud is going to be coming out, more information
23:58
Speaker 1: will be coming out. Is Tim Walls facing the possibility
24:02
Speaker 1: of impeachment of my friend Dustin Grage posted I'm sure
24:05
Speaker 1: you know Dustin as well, post it over on x
24:08
Speaker 1: that there is rumbling from inside insiders in the legislature.
24:11
Speaker 1: I don't love using insiders, but I get it. Are
24:13
Speaker 1: saying that Republicans are getting ready to file impeachment papers
24:18
Speaker 1: on walls. Is that happening.
24:20
Speaker 3: It is happening.
24:21
Speaker 2: Articles of impeachment are in the process of being filed.
24:25
Speaker 2: I will say that I've been in touch with legislators
24:27
Speaker 2: as well. They've talked about you know, this really is
24:29
Speaker 2: a long shot. They'll need some Democratic support for this,
24:32
Speaker 2: but they still want to go ahead. This isn't something
24:34
Speaker 2: that's going to you know, be happening overnight, but they
24:37
Speaker 2: believe they can force this to a vote, and they say,
24:40
Speaker 2: you know that they want to go ahead and send
24:42
Speaker 2: the message that they condone this, calling him the most
24:46
Speaker 2: corrupt governor in Minnesota history, and you know, they don't
24:51
Speaker 2: want to remain silent. So we do see those maneuvers
24:54
Speaker 2: happening within at the state capitol in Saint Paul Joe.
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Speaker 1: It's been a week or so since he announced, maybe
25:02
Speaker 1: it's been a week actually since he announced he wasn't
25:04
Speaker 1: running for reelection. Do we now know the real story
25:07
Speaker 1: why he did that? Because again there's speculation about Amy
25:10
Speaker 1: Klobashar wants to be the governor, and if she becomes
25:12
Speaker 1: the governor, then opens her seat, and then she can
25:14
Speaker 1: give Walls the seat. If Walls is this dirty or
25:17
Speaker 1: at least gives the appearance that he's this dirty because
25:19
Speaker 1: of all this fraud, I don't think Clobishar would want
25:22
Speaker 1: to give him the job, because that would make her
25:23
Speaker 1: look like an idiot. Do we know the real reason
25:25
Speaker 1: why he resigned? Is there some sort of smoking gun
25:28
Speaker 1: that he's fearful it's going to be coming out soon.
25:32
Speaker 2: Well, we're hearing from the federal government that there is there.
25:36
Speaker 2: Referred him to the DOJ. They're trying to get him
25:39
Speaker 2: in February to answer questions from oversight. We'll see if
25:43
Speaker 2: that takes place now that he has said that he
25:46
Speaker 2: is not running for reelection. What's also interesting, Joe, he
25:49
Speaker 2: was suspiciously quiet this weekend. He hasn't held a press
25:52
Speaker 2: conference since Friday, which is unlike him. He was on
25:56
Speaker 2: X basically pleading with the public to stay this weekend.
26:01
Speaker 2: Those were his messages. We also did see him this
26:03
Speaker 2: morning go to the memorial site of Renee Good. He
26:07
Speaker 2: was there alongside is his wife. But beyond that, we
26:11
Speaker 2: have yet to hear from him. We do know, you know,
26:13
Speaker 2: there has been many calls for him to resign his
26:16
Speaker 2: words last week, or that he would resign over his
26:19
Speaker 2: dead body, is what he said. It's also a thing
26:23
Speaker 2: that Klobashar has not made an announcement yet. One would
26:26
Speaker 2: think that that would need to happen pretty quickly. So
26:30
Speaker 2: we're kind of tracking all of this all at the
26:33
Speaker 2: same time to see how it shakes out.
26:35
Speaker 1: Here is the election this year.
26:39
Speaker 3: It is twenty sixth in November.
26:41
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, so I live in Texas As. You know,
26:44
Speaker 1: they had a file by December eighth of last year
26:47
Speaker 1: if they were running for anything. Is there is there
26:48
Speaker 1: a due date for the for her to announce that
26:50
Speaker 1: she's running.
26:51
Speaker 2: Well, that that's what's interesting. I think she's kind of
26:54
Speaker 2: on borrow time at at this point. They were even
26:56
Speaker 2: expecting it to happen last week. Of course, then this
26:59
Speaker 2: shooting to place, so that may have been you know,
27:03
Speaker 2: may have turned things sideways as far as that all went.
27:07
Speaker 2: So I would suspect that it happens soon. But you
27:09
Speaker 2: also do see pretty telling. It seems that there is
27:13
Speaker 2: some distance now being created from Senator Amy Clobshar and
27:17
Speaker 2: Governor Tim walls, and he, as I said, was very
27:20
Speaker 2: quiet this weekend, not on any national shows.
27:22
Speaker 3: Didn't have anything to say.
27:24
Speaker 1: Liz, I want to finish with this such incredible knowledge.
27:26
Speaker 1: I could literally talked to you for two or three hours.
27:28
Speaker 1: Let me finish on this as we're watching it all unfold,
27:31
Speaker 1: and as the good people in Minneapolis and well beyond
27:33
Speaker 1: in Minnesota are not out in the streets acting like
27:36
Speaker 1: useful idiots, the ones who understand when you saw that
27:39
Speaker 1: video that you released, that yes he was hit, Yes
27:41
Speaker 1: he was defending himself. When you see that Ice is
27:44
Speaker 1: there to get the bad people out of the community
27:46
Speaker 1: and leave the community better. Is there a chance Republicans
27:49
Speaker 1: can start making some traction, making some waves in that state.
27:52
Speaker 1: Can you have a doctor Jensen or somebody else win
27:56
Speaker 1: the governor's job, even if it is an Amy Klobshar
27:58
Speaker 1: who's very popular, get it, but she still hasn't really
28:01
Speaker 1: done much for Minnesota. Is there a chance that you
28:03
Speaker 1: can win one of those one of those Senate seats
28:06
Speaker 1: back to the Republican side. Any of that looked promising
28:08
Speaker 1: at least, well, Joe, there's.
28:11
Speaker 2: Always a chance, as the saying goes right, both have
28:13
Speaker 2: a very crowded, crowded field for governor on the Republican side,
28:17
Speaker 2: I think I've lost track if it's twelve thirteen folks
28:20
Speaker 2: who have now filed for that. But you know, I
28:24
Speaker 2: will say, if there's one criticism people have been saying,
28:26
Speaker 2: you know, why could the government, why could the Feds
28:29
Speaker 2: wait until September to spring all of this on Minnesota
28:32
Speaker 2: because they did think that Walls was, you know, that
28:35
Speaker 2: the candidate to beat this time around and was very
28:37
Speaker 2: vulnerable for many reasons. So, you know, Senator Globashar is
28:42
Speaker 2: kind of a political institution, I guess if you will
28:46
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. But you're right, it's tough to point to
28:49
Speaker 2: any anything that she has really done. I will say that,
28:53
Speaker 2: you know, Republicans remain very hopeful, and I think you're
28:55
Speaker 2: seeing that they are more aggressive now in their their messaging.
28:59
Speaker 2: It seems as the the Wins are you know, shifting
29:02
Speaker 2: a bit here.
29:04
Speaker 1: I meant that to be the last question, but you
29:06
Speaker 1: reminded me of something, not anything that you said, but
29:08
Speaker 1: I was hoping to ask you this before I let
29:09
Speaker 1: you go. Is Keith Ellison is the the attorney general?
29:13
Speaker 1: Is he the person that doles out the money to
29:14
Speaker 1: the NGOs in Minnesota. I heard that. I don't know
29:17
Speaker 1: if I heard that from you or somebody else. Does
29:19
Speaker 1: he have control of the money. If so, might they
29:22
Speaker 1: be looking at him too.
29:24
Speaker 2: You know, I think they're looking at him, perhaps for
29:27
Speaker 2: other reasons as the top law enforcement officer in Minnesota.
29:32
Speaker 2: He though, Joe has just told us again and again
29:34
Speaker 2: how much he's been doing to fight fraud, which is interesting.
29:38
Speaker 2: We've yet to really see much on that side. Instead,
29:41
Speaker 2: he seems to be focused more on business, small businesses
29:43
Speaker 2: in Minnesota, fleet farm, I mean, you name it that,
29:46
Speaker 2: that's what he's doing. The manufacturers of you know, vehicles
29:50
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But I would say that, you know, if
29:53
Speaker 2: we're talking about the pocketbook overall, that would belong to Tim,
29:58
Speaker 2: Tim Walls. And we heard even from this this David
30:02
Speaker 2: on Friday talking about that the Feds need to he said,
30:05
Speaker 2: swoop in like Batman and get a hold of what's.
30:07
Speaker 3: Going on in DHS.
30:08
Speaker 2: That this money needs to stop before it's given to
30:11
Speaker 2: these these frausters, and not worry so much about, you know,
30:14
Speaker 2: what's going overseas, but stop it before it's paid at all.
30:18
Speaker 1: Liz Colin, Senior reporter, a great host over at Alpha News.
30:22
Speaker 1: Go to Alphanus dot org go follow her everywhere online.
30:24
Speaker 1: Both Alphanus and Liz Collins separately on X Thanks for
30:28
Speaker 1: the incredible work and the incredible knowledge as always. I
30:30
Speaker 1: know I've asked you to come on a lot lately,
30:32
Speaker 1: but you've got so much going on and I love
30:33
Speaker 1: having you on.
30:33
Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate you, Joe, thank.
30:36
Speaker 1: You, all right, we'll talk soon. That's it round shaking
30:39
Speaker 1: an underfraid with Joe Paggs this time. Another one will
30:40
Speaker 1: drop very soon.