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Trump TV Meets A Press Revolt And A Diesel Shock · The Elsa Kurt Show

0:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, somebody's not in their regular place.
0:34
SPEAKER_04: Somebody is not.
0:35
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
0:36
SPEAKER_04: Uh so the President's Cup uh golf tournament is happening very close to my house.
0:43
SPEAKER_04: And so it has the PGA in obviously in um you know partnership with the local community has shut down, like the high school is out for all week.
0:55
SPEAKER_04: Um, because the high school's literally right across the street from the golf course, and they've shut down major roads, and parking is crazy, and there's traffic everywhere.
1:04
SPEAKER_04: And um it's uh it was just better to just get out.
1:09
SPEAKER_01: Get out of town.
1:10
SPEAKER_01: Get out of town.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Get out of town.
1:13
SPEAKER_03: Yep, yep, yep.
1:14
SPEAKER_04: Oh, and and I will be back.
1:18
SPEAKER_04: It'll be interesting because Sunday President Trump is supposed to be there.
1:22
SPEAKER_04: Um and so, but I will I will be back in town for that because I have something to do on Sunday.
1:29
SPEAKER_04: But um boy.
1:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it well, and it's uh the good news is that the golf course is about a 10-minute drive from O'Hare Airport, which they'll land him in Air Force One, they'll fly him on Marine One from you know O'Hare straight onto the golf course.
1:50
SPEAKER_04: He'll never drive, I'm sure.
1:53
SPEAKER_04: So that'll be better, but it's still pretty good.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: Still, uh I speaking of golf, uh I was talking to somebody today, and um, I I knew that this person was a golfer.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: And so I I just, you know, you ask the polite casual question, like, oh, did you get a chance to golf?
2:11
SPEAKER_01: Which unleashed like, you know, 10 minutes of golf terminology and and you know, just golf language.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: And I I, you know, I was like, I could just go with this and you know, nod very interestedly and and act like I know what the heck he's talking about.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: Or I could just be honest.
2:27
SPEAKER_01: And I went with honesty and I said, you know, that sounds really, really uh very enjoyable for you.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: But I didn't understand even a quarter of what you were saying in there.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: And they didn't care.
2:38
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh, no problem, it's all good.
2:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I mean, I can talk to you about uh, you know, lots of sports, but that's not one of them.
2:46
SPEAKER_04: And listen, I I get that.
2:47
SPEAKER_04: I am, but I am cognizant, like my two of my hobbies.
2:51
SPEAKER_04: We've talked about this before.
2:52
SPEAKER_04: I'm a soccer guy, I always have been, and I'm very cognizant that most Americans are not, and they are even many who are are not at the same soccer nerd level that I am.
3:03
SPEAKER_04: Um, and then I shoot a lot, and a lot of people aren't into shooting.
3:06
SPEAKER_04: So when they ask me about my hobbies, I kind of keep things on the, you know, on the very basic kind of level.
3:13
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, golfers are golfers, and I am not.
3:16
SPEAKER_04: People ask me if I golf, and I always say the same thing terribly.
3:19
SPEAKER_04: Do I golf?
3:20
SPEAKER_04: Yes, terribly.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, terribly, terribly.
3:22
SPEAKER_01: It's the way that's the same way I sing.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: Yes, do I sing?
3:25
SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely, terribly.
3:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, me too.
3:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: I do it non-stop, no matter what.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter.
3:32
SPEAKER_01: And then if I hear hear it played back, I'm like, oh, oh my.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that felt so much better than that actually sounded.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I I will say, um, I I have entered the uh I think I might have mentioned to mentioned this to you before.
3:49
SPEAKER_01: I have entered the uh the phase of the pickleball phase.
3:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh no.
3:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I am I am one of those people.
3:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm obsessed.
4:00
SPEAKER_01: It's ridiculous.
4:01
SPEAKER_01: I so here's what I'm gonna tell you.
4:03
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna remember that conversation you had with the golfer when somebody asks you about pickleball and and when their eyes glaze over, yeah, it's the same thing.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I need to read the room, right?
4:15
SPEAKER_01: Need need need to read the social cues when somebody goes, oh, that's that's wow.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
4:22
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
4:22
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna have Clay's voice in my head going, stop talking about it.
4:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, all right.
4:32
SPEAKER_01: Well, we have lots of things to talk about.
4:33
SPEAKER_01: Pickleball will not be one of them.
4:35
SPEAKER_01: Everybody just relax.
4:37
SPEAKER_01: We've got a bunch of topics, thanks to Clay.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: I even threw one in for once.
4:42
SPEAKER_01: We'll we'll chat about that excitement um uh fun stuff.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, but here here they all are, guys.
4:48
SPEAKER_01: Here they are.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: The media says the White House is shutting out the press.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: The White House says some of the press stopped reporting the news a long time ago.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: So who's actually shutting out whom?
4:58
SPEAKER_00: And apparently Trump's solution is start his own television network.
5:02
SPEAKER_00: Yes, Trump TV is now a thing.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: Because why argue with the networks when you can become one?
5:07
SPEAKER_00: Then Trump walks into the United Nations and delivers a message the United Nations probably wasn't dying to hear.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: American sovereignty comes first.
5:14
SPEAKER_00: No global government, no global taxes, and America will deal with threats before they become catastrophes.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: And remember when everybody laughed about Trump wanting Greenland?
5:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, we didn't exactly get Greenland, but America just secured a major new Arctic security agreement and expanded military access.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: Turns out there was a little more to that whole Greenland thing than real estate.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, diesel prices are soaring.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: And if you're thinking, I don't drive diesel, you eat food, don't you?
5:40
SPEAKER_00: Because when trucking and farming get more expensive, eventually everything gets more expensive.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: Are Democrats losing Jewish voters over Israel and antisemitism?
5:48
SPEAKER_00: We check the numbers, and the answer is considerably more complicated than the headlines suggest.
5:52
SPEAKER_00: Then the creator of the 1619 project gets a painful reality check from her own daughter, after deliberately choosing a struggling public school in the name of educational equality, which raises a question bigger than politics.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Should your child ever become the experiment for your ideology?
6:07
SPEAKER_00: And finally, a disturbing case out of Canada's assisted death program.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: An 83-year-old woman dies through MAID after her family says she was confused and had cried, I made a mistake.
6:16
SPEAKER_00: The allegations are now under review.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: But the moral question can't wait.
6:20
SPEAKER_00: When death is irreversible, how much doubt is too much doubt?
6:25
SPEAKER_01: Well then, we I can't help but laugh at some of these things.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: This just all feels so petty and silly to me, but uh, you know, I what what do I know?
6:35
SPEAKER_01: Um so right off the bat, let's talk about uh about this batch of fun, Clay.
6:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh the TV press pool has said, fine, we're not coming, basically in response to saying CNN, you're out.
6:46
SPEAKER_01: And who else?
6:47
SPEAKER_01: Politico, who else, Clay?
6:48
SPEAKER_04: CNN, politico, and I think it was one of the big three.
6:54
SPEAKER_04: I think NBC as well.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
6:56
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
6:56
SPEAKER_01: I didn't hear that one.
6:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I I want to say, I mean, listen, we all know MS, anything, and NBC are essentially the same.
7:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they answer to the same master.
7:08
SPEAKER_04: So um, but uh yeah, so President Trump uh decided, or the the White House staff, whoever it was, decided that those entities are not going to be allowed in the inside the White House because they have gone from being journalists to being, you know, editorializing everything and uh not necessarily being honest in what they're reporting.
7:26
SPEAKER_04: And so in response, the I think is it seven?
7:30
SPEAKER_04: I think it's seven um networks in the TV pool, including Fox, by the way, right?
7:36
SPEAKER_04: Um, all said, okay, fine, if you're gonna bump them out and you're gonna pull their press passes, then we are not going to um cover the president uh on television.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
7:47
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, for anybody who doesn't know, what is you know, what's the pool?
7:50
SPEAKER_01: What exactly is that?
7:51
SPEAKER_01: So basically you can't cram every single camera crew in America, obviously, into the Oval Office every time the president says something, right?
7:59
SPEAKER_01: So everybody gets that.
8:00
SPEAKER_01: That's logic.
8:01
SPEAKER_01: So ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, and NBC rotate.
8:06
SPEAKER_01: So one network gets the close-up access, right?
8:09
SPEAKER_01: One gets the close-up access that day, and then they share it to share its video and audio and everything with everybody else.
8:16
SPEAKER_01: So um, and then there's like separate print and radio pool arrangements that they all make also.
8:22
SPEAKER_01: So what happened was CNN's turn came up and the White House said that CNN was not coming in.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: You're not, you're not coming in.
8:28
SPEAKER_01: Stick of your garbage, you're out.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, which of course led to everyone getting up in arms.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: Now people are arguing that this is a First Amendment violation and how dare they, and all of those things.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, it listen, it certainly brings up some some questions, right?
8:47
SPEAKER_01: Some things of of not necessarily can he or can he?
8:50
SPEAKER_01: I think he can.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, but and and I I think, and you can correct me if you think I'm wrong, um, the First Amendment thing doesn't quite float, right?
8:59
SPEAKER_01: Because he's not denying their right to report in in whatever way they want to, factually or infactually.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: He's not saying that you can't report, but you you don't get carplash.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: You don't just you that's a privilege.
9:13
SPEAKER_01: That's an invitation that you get to come in.
9:15
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think there's any precedent says that they actually have to do that.
9:19
SPEAKER_01: So not den not denying their ability to report, just denying their ability to have direct, immediate physical access.
9:27
SPEAKER_01: So I don't think any First Amendment rights have been violated here.
9:30
SPEAKER_01: Do I do I have that right?
9:33
SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of federal buildings that the press doesn't have access to uh for a lot of reasons.
9:39
SPEAKER_04: You know, think of CIA headquarters at Lion B.
9:42
SPEAKER_04: Think of FBI headquarters.
9:44
SPEAKER_04: They don't have unfettered access, Pentagon, right?
9:46
SPEAKER_04: They don't have unfettered access to everything all the time.
9:50
SPEAKER_04: Um they tried to for a while at the Pentagon, and what happened?
9:52
SPEAKER_04: Their press passes got pulled.
9:54
SPEAKER_04: I mean, that that happened, you know, within the last year.
9:57
SPEAKER_04: Um so no, you're right.
9:58
SPEAKER_04: He is not, you know, this isn't um killing freedom of the press.
10:02
SPEAKER_04: He is not telling them that they can't report on him, he's not restricting what they report.
10:07
SPEAKER_04: But this is all, you know, the premise of this is exactly what we talked about, which is there's they're not being honest in what they're reporting, and there's too much editorializing instead of reporting of facts.
10:19
SPEAKER_04: Um and that that's journalism across the board, folks.
10:22
SPEAKER_04: And it and it doesn't matter um what network you watch, it doesn't matter who you turn into.
10:27
SPEAKER_04: Fox is as guilty as CNN is, it's just the slant and the lean and the slope that you you know you you prefer to listen to, but it's everywhere.
10:35
SPEAKER_04: Um and listen, Elsa and I have been saying this, we've been doing this show for three years, and we've been saying it the whole time.
10:39
SPEAKER_04: We are not journalists.
10:41
SPEAKER_04: We're not uh this is 100% opinion.
10:45
SPEAKER_04: We do base it on fact, we try and report facts to you, and then we offer our opinions.
10:50
SPEAKER_04: Um, are we 100% right?
10:51
SPEAKER_04: No, we've made some mistakes along the way, but but we're not claiming to be journalists.
10:56
SPEAKER_04: Uh they are, and that's what this is about.
10:58
SPEAKER_04: And and President Trump, you know, whoever or whoever it was on the White House staff, maybe it was the chief or maybe it was one of the cabinet members, but they decided to limit the access to certain organizations because of their what they would label responsible um journalism.
11:14
SPEAKER_04: And so the response to that was fine, then we're not gonna film inside the White House.
11:18
SPEAKER_04: And President Trump said, fine, don't don't film inside the White House.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay, don't.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, stop, you're hurting my feelings.
11:26
SPEAKER_01: Um and and that will lead us into the next part, but I do want to, I wanna give um, I guess there is a little bit of, I was reading more of my notes here that if I had read them before, I would have had this.
11:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess there is a little bit of wrinkle in it.
11:39
SPEAKER_01: So I guess the so the court um there was a case, Cheryl Sherrill versus Knight, uh the DC circuit, where the DC circuit, this was in 1977, explicitly acknowledged that the general public doesn't have a right to enter the White House, and that this is basically what we're saying, but this is confirmation of that part um, and that the general public doesn't have a right to enter the White House, and that the government isn't constitutionally required to hold, not constitutionally required to hold press conferences or create press facilities in the first place.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: But then there's a but.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: Ready for the but?
12:14
SPEAKER_01: So the but is the court then said that once the White House does create press facilities for bona fide journalists, it can't be it can't arbitrarily exclude individual journalists from that access.
12:27
SPEAKER_01: Denying credentials can therefore raise First and Fifth Amendment issues, particularly depending uh on the reason and process use.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: So there he could there could be legally um justifiable pushback on it based on that.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: So we, I mean, we'll see what happens.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: And you know, I will, and I and I I want to be, you know, fair-minded about it.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: When I guess when you look at it through a broader lens, uh let's let's go down like a horror lane of things.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: Let's say um a bunch of years from now, President AOC, painful, doesn't like uh I know painful, painful to even joke about, but let's let's just say it just for just for horrifying fun.
13:11
SPEAKER_01: Let's say president doesn't like um I Fox isn't a good example really anymore.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Is there anybody who's uh truly on the right side?
13:20
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh Daily Wire, Daily Wire, let's go with the Daily Wire.
13:24
SPEAKER_01: I know that's not I know that's not a mainstream, but let's just go with it because that's a recognizable uh, you know, right uh publication.
13:31
SPEAKER_04: Listen, if we're if we're making up fairy tales about AOC being president, we can we can put any label on this.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like we can.
13:37
SPEAKER_01: So let's call let's call we're calling the Day W Daily Wire now mainstream, just like we're calling AOC president AOC.
13:46
SPEAKER_01: Such a bad alternate universe uh for that part.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, she can based off of this deny them access.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's you know, it falls under the like good for the goose, good for the gander thing.
13:58
SPEAKER_01: So do we want to set that precedent?
14:00
SPEAKER_01: Because whatever he can do, the next one, you know, can do from the other side.
14:04
SPEAKER_01: So uh I feel like, you know, there should be some care and caution here.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: And and I say that as somebody who is disgusted and frustrated with uh the mainstream, what we call now the mainstream media.
14:16
SPEAKER_01: I think they are are an absolute disgrace.
14:19
SPEAKER_01: I don't think they deserve the title journalists.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: Um and I and I don't just from an emotional viewpoint, I don't think they deserve to be in there.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: But as, you know, if if I were to get in the middle of things, where's the middle of our screen?
14:33
SPEAKER_01: There it is.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: If I were to get in the middle of things and and be a little bit more objective, you know, I would I would give all of that some weight.
14:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think um, so first of all, for everybody that's kind of following in the public, keep in mind there's a lot of lies being thrown out there.
14:48
SPEAKER_04: The internet's doing what the internet does, social media is.
14:51
SPEAKER_04: And so people are saying, oh, well, during the Biden administration, there was 440, I think is the claim, you know, credentials that were revoked or removed or whatever.
15:00
SPEAKER_04: And dig in past surface level, and what it turns into is that almost every one of those were not um, they didn't put in a request for renewal.
15:09
SPEAKER_04: Um, some of them were, you know, organizations that were defunct, like it was a news organization that didn't exist anymore, and all these other things.
15:16
SPEAKER_04: There's, you know, claims that um uh President Obama, you know, wanted Fox out, right?
15:22
SPEAKER_04: And they, you know, and and and there have been individual reporters for various reasons who have had their credentials revoked.
15:28
SPEAKER_04: Um, and so you know, the lesson in that is don't believe everything you read on the internet, you know, do the research.
15:35
SPEAKER_04: Don't just assume because you saw, oh, well, Biden did, you know, blah, blah, blah.
15:39
SPEAKER_04: Dig a little deeper because it's, you know, it's half half reporting, which is what we're trying to avoid.
15:44
SPEAKER_05: Right.
15:44
SPEAKER_04: Um, I I did see a very interesting interview with Caroline Levitt, who, you know, is kind of in the relaxation mode of her life.
15:52
SPEAKER_04: Um, and she was talking to uh what's his name, one of the guys on Fox.
15:57
SPEAKER_04: And he asked her, like, you know, have you ever had, you know, those reporters in the White House press briefing that have come up to you and been very, very different in person than they are when the cameras are rolling or during the press briefing.
16:11
SPEAKER_04: And she says, Oh, it happens all the time.
16:13
SPEAKER_04: You know, she's like, I have had that happen, where they will come up and say, Hey, I'm sorry that I acted like that, or I'm sorry that I asked that question in that manner.
16:20
SPEAKER_04: And it's very, she said the word she used is very performative.
16:24
SPEAKER_04: Um, so that right there tells you that there is not earnest journalism going on.
16:31
SPEAKER_04: If it's performative in the way that they ask the question, then that means they're looking for a specific answer, in which case they're not looking for the truth.
16:39
SPEAKER_04: They're looking for something that they can bite onto.
16:41
SPEAKER_04: And and then and then it starts to lose credibility and it all goes downhill from there.
16:45
SPEAKER_04: So no, I'm I'm with you though.
16:46
SPEAKER_04: I don't like the optics of this.
16:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
16:48
SPEAKER_04: Um, this is very much a Pandora's box kind of thing.
16:51
SPEAKER_04: Like we've said this before, you know, the FBI went after President Trump.
16:54
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, the expectation was when he got into office, the FBI, and that's why um Kash Patel's under so much scrutiny right now, because everything he does looks like retribution.
17:03
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
17:04
SPEAKER_04: Um and so this is very much the same thing.
17:06
SPEAKER_04: And you laid it out with the AOC fairy tale that 10, 20, 15, whatever years from now, you know, somebody like her in office could do the same thing and say, Oh, you know, whatever news agency, you guys are doing too much editorializing, get out.
17:20
SPEAKER_04: Um, and that's something that none of us should be happy about, none of us should be cool with.
17:24
SPEAKER_04: It's it's not a good thing.
17:26
SPEAKER_04: Um and but also if you think in the context of that TV pool, right?
17:32
SPEAKER_04: I thought it was seven, you said it was five, I'm sure you're right.
17:34
SPEAKER_04: Um, the fact that they are all in an agreement to share all of the video footage and all of the sound bites and all of those things, how far apart do you think that those media outlets really are in about the I mean that right there tells you it's more of a business than it is of anything else.
17:50
SPEAKER_04: So um if I think if they collectively would just get back to journalism across the world, yeah.
17:55
SPEAKER_04: Um the problem is that when they do that, then it doesn't matter who you watch, and then people start to lose uh viewers because they're not getting the slam they want.
18:03
SPEAKER_04: So it's a tough, it's a tough spot.
18:05
SPEAKER_04: I I don't necessarily like that this is happening.
18:08
SPEAKER_04: I know I don't like that this is happening, but I think the optics make it look even worse and even worse.
18:13
SPEAKER_04: And again, it's Pandora's box for the future.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
18:17
SPEAKER_01: You know, and and you're gonna talk about fairy tales, wouldn't it be so amazing?
18:22
SPEAKER_01: And a fairy tale, that if both sides, the left and the right, and I'm talking about all of us collectively as the people, we the people, if we could agree and bond together over nothing else because there's not much we can, um, maybe we could bond on this one and work together and say, you know what?
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Uh, because I would say I'm definitely in agreement that Fox is no better.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: They throw this out.
18:49
SPEAKER_01: People on the left in the comment sections will throw this out rather than, oh, but you'll listen to Fox.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: First of all, not a fan of Fox.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: There are there are personalities on Fox that I am fond of, one in particular that they just got rid of that they don't like or Maria um uh I can never pronounce her last name.
19:07
SPEAKER_04: I can't even.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: That's why I froze.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, wait a minute.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: I see it all the time, and I don't even know if I can pronounce it.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: Um yes, I I've always liked her, and um, you know, but whatever.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: If we could all just kind of go, listen, they all suck.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: They're not working in our, they're not working for us.
19:23
SPEAKER_01: They're they're working for themselves and their own good.
19:26
SPEAKER_01: Every single one of them is it's self-interest and not for the greater good of the people, and certainly not for truth.
19:35
SPEAKER_01: Not a single one of them is trying to get the truth out there.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: They're trying to get their truth out there.
19:42
SPEAKER_05: Right.
19:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, so you know, if we can, if we can all get together on nothing else, I mean, I feel like this would be probably a great place to start and just say, no, we're we're done with all of them and we demand better.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we actually have the right to do that.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: So wouldn't that be amazing?
19:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, guys, I know that was a fairy tale.
19:59
SPEAKER_01: I just said two fairy tales in in less than a half hour.
20:03
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
20:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh and then and then the optics, talking about bad optics, to follow this up with, and folks, this is the topic that I had no clue about until Elsa popped me.
20:16
SPEAKER_04: Was it yesterday you hit me with this one?
20:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um last night.
20:19
SPEAKER_04: Um the Trump TV to do this for this to launch on the heels or even in the same time frame as this media conflict going on in the White House looks really bad.
20:33
SPEAKER_04: I mean, really bad.
20:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, listen, I've never been uh one to believe in coincidences, and um, this would certainly be one of those cases where it's pretty much impossible to call it a coincidence.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, yeah.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: What do you I mean, what do you think of this?
20:49
SPEAKER_01: This is crazy.
20:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is uh don't get me wrong, I'm amused.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: I I find lots of humor in this, but yes, the the optics part it's the optics are bad, timing is bad.
21:02
SPEAKER_04: Um the the one thing that never changes is President Trump was a businessman.
21:05
SPEAKER_04: So this one, if if there is even a touch of success out of Trump TV.
21:10
SPEAKER_04: Now, folks, this is a YouTube channel, is really what this is.
21:13
SPEAKER_04: Right.
21:14
SPEAKER_04: Um, but if there's even a little bit of success out of this, this will continue well beyond the presidency.
21:19
SPEAKER_04: Yes, because it's President Trump.
21:21
SPEAKER_04: Um if this is if it's successful, if he can make money off of it, um, it definitely will progress beyond his time in the White House.
21:30
SPEAKER_04: Um but it is being called all of the things that you would expect it to be.
21:33
SPEAKER_04: Like this is state-run television, this is controlled by the president.
21:38
SPEAKER_04: This is, you know, call it whatever old Soviet, you know, reference you want to make into the Politburo or whatever.
21:45
SPEAKER_04: Um it just it looks really, really bad.
21:49
SPEAKER_04: Um, it'll be interesting to see what the content is, though.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:53
SPEAKER_04: Because we're all making assumptions because we we we think we know what it's gonna look like, but we don't know what the content is.
21:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'd say like.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: The only caveat to that is like yes, uh agreed, like this is this is the angle the the left and the mainstream media, traditional media will run with.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: Like this is, you know, look at the little dictator trying to blah, blah, blah.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: You know, but it again, if you're gonna step back, which most people these days are unable to do, but if you can, if you step back and look at this, the, you know, the the the truth is he's not shutting down CNN.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: He's not uh banning them from broadcasting.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: Nobody is being banned from doing anything except for being physically in the White House, which may or may not be within his uh legal right to do.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it'll play out in court.
22:41
SPEAKER_01: I think who is it?
22:42
SPEAKER_01: CNN?
22:42
SPEAKER_01: CNN already sued him, right?
22:44
SPEAKER_01: That that lawsuit's already begun, right?
22:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, so that'll play out in court and and whatever happens is gonna happen with that.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, so you've got traditional media saying that government needs independent journalists watching it, right?
22:59
SPEAKER_01: And then you have Trump saying that traditional media has abused that access and that Americans can now simply hear directly from him.
23:07
SPEAKER_01: So uh just at face value, that makes sense.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm okay with that.
23:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, let me hear what he's got to say.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: You know, yes, I I see and hear all of the ego-driven things uh uh about doing that.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh again, you know, I I like the middle, guys.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: I like the middle of the road and I like seeing all of it.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I think there's great benefit to having him have the ability to put out the exact message that he wants to put out.
23:38
SPEAKER_01: Um and I think there's equal value in these um traditional media organizations saying what they say, even though I think it's crap.
23:50
SPEAKER_01: So I think what he's saying is crap.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: So you know what I mean?
23:53
SPEAKER_01: Like I I guess let the people decide.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: Let the people decide for themselves what's crap and what's not.
23:59
SPEAKER_04: Well, so you've got the two big instances of him being him not being covered.
24:04
SPEAKER_04: You know, he got kicked off of Twitter X during during his last presidency, his last term.
24:11
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, he got restricted access to social media, um, which didn't allow him to put the messaging out in the sense that you're talking about.
24:18
SPEAKER_04: He also, when he just did that last update to America, where he's talking about the same America Act and all those things, you know, the network said, Oh, well, we're not gonna cover him because we have to make sure he's not lying.
24:28
SPEAKER_03: Right.
24:28
SPEAKER_04: Well, so that gives them editorial capability that, you know, to to to cut the message, to change the message.
24:36
SPEAKER_04: And we've seen it 60 minutes, it's been busted how many times.
24:39
SPEAKER_04: Over and over and over again.
24:40
SPEAKER_01: Massive lawsuits that were won, by the way, against them for doing that.
24:45
SPEAKER_04: So he's he this gives him the ability to get the message out unfettered, unedited, unchanged.
24:51
SPEAKER_04: The problem is, is also it there's nothing on the other side to make sure that it's not fabricated, it's not, you know what I mean?
25:00
SPEAKER_04: Like there's there's nobody else in the room.
25:03
SPEAKER_04: And then so here's the logistics part of this that hit me.
25:06
SPEAKER_04: So we've got the TV press pool, the TV pool has said we're not doing this, right?
25:10
SPEAKER_04: And the whole reason they did the TV pool was because, like you said, there's not enough room for every network to have a camera in these tight spaces.
25:18
SPEAKER_04: So they do it every day and they do it on a rotation.
25:20
SPEAKER_04: So my assumption is that in their absence, the camera for Trump TV is gonna take their place, right?
25:26
SPEAKER_04: Right in the same spot, right on the same buffers on the floor, they're gonna take over that space.
25:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
25:31
SPEAKER_04: So what happens when the TV pool comes back?
25:35
SPEAKER_04: Because they will.
25:36
SPEAKER_04: They will, of course they will.
25:38
SPEAKER_04: So now does he say, Nope, you're not allowed anymore, and it's only gonna be Trump TV?
25:43
SPEAKER_04: Do they say, Oh, well, suddenly we have room for two cameras in there, right?
25:48
SPEAKER_04: And and you know, and that sort of thing.
25:50
SPEAKER_04: So that just the logistics of that managing that space is gonna be very, very interesting because I can promise you from the get-go, Trump TV camera, if that is what the content looks like, right?
26:02
SPEAKER_04: Because again, we don't really know, but if it's gonna be, like you said, him in the Oval Office, all those clips that we see, or him having a cabinet meeting, or him whatever, um, where there is limited space, if that's the content, then they're definitely taking that over.
26:17
unknown: Right.
26:18
SPEAKER_04: But you know the networks are are are they gonna is Trump TV gonna go into an agreement with the TV pool to give them the the film?
26:24
SPEAKER_04: I doubt it, right?
26:25
SPEAKER_04: Right.
26:26
SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna have to wait and see what the content looks like.
26:29
SPEAKER_04: I really, really hope that it is not like a live stream version of his Twitter feed.
26:34
SPEAKER_04: Because that would be yeah, there's only so much listen, you know, there's only so much aggrandizing people can stand.
26:42
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
26:42
SPEAKER_04: Right.
26:42
SPEAKER_04: And and you and I have said this, we wish that he would be better on Twitter.
26:45
SPEAKER_04: Some people love it, and great, good for you.
26:47
SPEAKER_04: If that's your jam and you really, really like that everything he's ever done is the best that's ever happened in the history of mankind, okay, fine.
26:53
SPEAKER_04: That's your thing.
26:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
26:54
SPEAKER_04: But if that's what Trump TV is gonna be 24-7, uh, that is gonna be for a lot of people, it's gonna be unwatchable, truthfully.
27:03
SPEAKER_04: Right.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't necessarily necessarily think this is what's gonna happen, but it also wouldn't shock me if this was just basically a reality series, reality streaming series, right?
27:15
SPEAKER_01: Like it, which will get a lot of viewers because if you love them, you're gonna watch.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: And if you hate them, you're gonna watch.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, what I find actually most uh shocking about the whole thing, I I don't I actually I brought this topic to you, Clay, and I didn't even realize it was gonna be on YouTube, to be honest with you.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: Um talk about just throwing things into the wind.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, but so yeah, I'm actually shocked that YouTube is gonna carry it because YouTube hates they're not dumb, they're not dumb, but they're hateful.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: So, but yeah, they they are that.
27:50
SPEAKER_04: And I have my own little history, personal history with YouTube many years ago.
27:54
SPEAKER_04: Um, and they are they are, yes.
27:56
SPEAKER_04: Um okay, short story.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Tell us.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you can't leave us hanging on that.
28:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so this I was still, I was getting ready to retire from the army, and me and my best friend um who is still in the TV industry.
28:08
SPEAKER_04: Um, we had put together a show concept, uh, an army show, like a TV show.
28:13
SPEAKER_04: And uh we I I went out to Hollywood for a week.
28:15
SPEAKER_04: I took some leave and I went out to Hollywood for a week, and we pitched the TV show idea to a bunch of networks.
28:20
SPEAKER_04: Um, we got a little bit of interest here and there, but we got back when YouTube Red was there, like they were gonna launch a TV network, right?
28:28
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
28:29
SPEAKER_04: Um so that tells you how long ago this was.
28:31
SPEAKER_04: Um and so YouTube Red showed interest.
28:35
SPEAKER_04: They really were interested in this.
28:37
SPEAKER_04: Now, keep in mind, my best friend had a long history and a very good reputation um and a deep, deep resume in Hollywood.
28:43
SPEAKER_04: He was no slouch.
28:44
SPEAKER_04: Um, I was the new guy, but I was the one, it was an army show, so I was gonna be, you know, kind of the technical expertise back side of all the writing.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: Little did they know that I also had the capability to write, as we've seen through the three novels that I put together.
28:58
SPEAKER_04: Um but we before we signed any deals or really got any any legitimate deals on the table, we found out that they were planning on buying the show, um, keeping him at the lowest pay level possible for one season, putting me on a very small advisor salary, and then after the first season, getting rid of both of us.
29:15
SPEAKER_04: That was the plan for the street.
29:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
29:18
SPEAKER_04: So so I don't I don't have a I'm not a real big YouTube fan.
29:22
SPEAKER_04: No, but uh yeah, but they're a business, is my point.
29:26
SPEAKER_04: Like they are a business.
29:28
SPEAKER_04: And so um they whether they love President Trump or not, they're not passing up on this opportunity because they're a business.
29:35
SPEAKER_04: Right.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: By the way, uh as of right now, guys, just so you know, and I I uh again, a moment of I didn't really fully read through my notes.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: What a slacker today, huh?
29:45
SPEAKER_01: Like that's a shock, guys, right?
29:47
SPEAKER_01: Um, but this is what they have so far.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: So as of right now, it's basically a 24-hour Trump and administration highlight channel.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna be speeches, bill signings, presidential appearances, administration announcements, older events.
30:00
SPEAKER_01: Um White House is describing it as a place for the latest and greatest, along with past moments that viewers may not have seen.
30:07
SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, they're basically it's just gonna be a continuous presidential highlight reel for the moment.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: And then, but I do expect, you know, we do know uh what do we always call uh President Trump, the master chess player, right?
30:21
SPEAKER_01: He's already uh planned out so many moves in advance.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: So uh this will evolve and it, you know, it probably is the home for the next phase of his uh post-presidential life.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: So this is the setup for it.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: And uh listen, I totally I'm I'm good with it.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: I don't, you know, listen, I don't, there just isn't enough time in my day.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: And I know I'm not playing a violin for myself.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: I don't have any time.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: No, it's just very literal.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: I I don't have any time uh that I can spare to be watching um lots of things.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: So I mean, I may catch part bits and pieces of it.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: How about you?
31:01
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna be glued to the screen clay?
31:05
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not.
31:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's like you have a life or something, right?
31:10
SPEAKER_01: As do as do most of us.
31:12
SPEAKER_01: I I feel like the majority of the population um will just be living their life and catching bits here and there.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: And uh, you know, when you have time and and are so inclined to do so.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: And again, I think his greatest viewership are going to be his haters.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: They will watch it the most.
31:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and then it'll turn into you know social media content and all of those things as as it will you would expect it to do.
31:35
SPEAKER_04: So I wouldn't even we won't even have to watch it.
31:37
SPEAKER_04: It'll be like, you know, when the state of the union comes around and you don't watch and then you watch the highlights afterwards.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: Just get the highlights.
31:44
SPEAKER_01: We are a society right now that lives off of highlights.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: Just sound bites and highlights.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: That's all we have space in our brains for.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: And we're actually over overloaded with them.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: We have so many sound bites and and snippets of things in our heads and no complete thoughts.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we're we're a big trouble, just so we know.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: Just so we all know.
32:04
SPEAKER_01: We are in so much trouble.
32:08
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm not sure.
32:09
SPEAKER_04: Uh speaking of speaking of President Trump making predictions that came true.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
32:15
SPEAKER_04: How about this Greenland?
32:17
SPEAKER_01: How about that?
32:18
SPEAKER_01: How about that?
32:19
SPEAKER_01: Didn't we just mention he plays chess with life?
32:23
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, go ahead.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: You go ahead.
32:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so it this actually started back in 2019.
32:28
SPEAKER_04: Most people don't realize this, but he was talking about this during his previous administration.
32:33
SPEAKER_04: He was talking about the important strategic importance of Greenland for the defense of North America, right?
32:39
SPEAKER_04: And Europe, but but North America specifically.
32:41
SPEAKER_04: And people kind of, you know, um brushed it off because it really wasn't something of concern, or at least something that grabbed headlines, until he started talking about in 2024, he started talking about invading Greenland and taking over Greenland.
32:56
SPEAKER_04: And then there was a big, you know, people treated it like, you know, the Gulf of America and Lake America, and and you know, they all thought he was crazy and he was going to start World War III, and that uh Denmark would, you know, who owns Greenland would never uh buy off on this, and Europe hates us, and everybody thinks he's a fool, and you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
33:14
SPEAKER_04: And here we sit in September of 2026, and Denmark essentially, if you've looked at the terms and conditions of the deal, has assigned Greenland over as a U.S.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: protectorate.
33:29
SPEAKER_04: Like we have unimpeded access.
33:32
SPEAKER_04: We have unimpeded air access.
33:34
SPEAKER_04: We have unimpeded access to build military facilities there, ports, air bases, whatever we want.
33:41
SPEAKER_04: Uh and and the the Danish, what is she, prime minister, president, whatever she is, um, held a press conference yesterday as they signed this thing.
33:51
SPEAKER_04: And that she sounded like, you know, the Italian prime minister.
33:54
SPEAKER_04: She was so pro-American, it was crazy in this speech.
33:58
SPEAKER_04: So amazing.
34:00
SPEAKER_04: And and not a shot fired and not a dollar spent.
34:03
SPEAKER_04: Got exactly what he wanted.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: How about that?
34:05
SPEAKER_01: How about that?
34:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I just wish people would stop underestimating him.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, when things like this happen, and this is just one of many examples.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: And and, you know, the the naysayers and the detractors are he can never, it'll never happen.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: He's crazy.
34:19
SPEAKER_01: Like you said, yeah, he's crazy.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: That's not gonna guess what?
34:23
SPEAKER_01: Here's, you know, here's the exact opposite of what you thought was gonna happen.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: Now, the last time that you and I talked about this, you explained really well why Greenland was such a big deal for us.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: Will you kind of give everyone the highlight of that?
34:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, just so there's an answer.
34:41
SPEAKER_04: There's two pieces to it.
34:42
SPEAKER_04: One, you by it being a U.S.
34:45
SPEAKER_04: protector, you've got economic it protects it economically in the sense that now Russia and China can't go in there.
34:54
SPEAKER_04: They can't start making deals, they can't start exploring, they can't whatever it is that Greenland's got to offer in resources and on all of those things, we have now boxed them out.
35:04
SPEAKER_04: They're done.
35:05
SPEAKER_04: Um, so that's part of it.
35:07
SPEAKER_04: But strategic defense-wise, Greenland, the the geography of Greenland and where it sits between Europe and the United States is and if you look at the top of the globe, which nobody ever looks at, it's proximity to Russia.
35:22
SPEAKER_04: Um Greenland is extremely important in both the protection of Europe and the protection of North America.
35:29
SPEAKER_04: Actually, it's so important that there are people that are putting it in the context of Canada at this point is almost irrelevant.
35:36
SPEAKER_04: At least the eastern part of Canada is irrelevant in protecting North America.
35:40
SPEAKER_04: Now, obviously, when you get out towards Alaska and the western part of Canada and its proximity to the Barian Strait and all that, it's different.
35:47
SPEAKER_04: But Greenland and its capability to be just that landmass that sits in the midst of all of this.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: Shipping lanes, um, Navy bases, uh, global or um polar cap protection.
36:00
SPEAKER_04: So think in turn, everybody looks at a globe or they look at a map and they look at it very horizontally.
36:06
SPEAKER_04: And so go back, all us Gen Xers, go back to war games, right?
36:10
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
36:11
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
36:12
SPEAKER_04: All of those missiles that we were always worried about coming from Russia were gonna come across the polar cap.
36:16
SPEAKER_04: They were not coming over the top of Europe, right?
36:19
SPEAKER_04: As we all kind of pictured it in our brain from maps.
36:22
SPEAKER_04: Right.
36:22
SPEAKER_04: They were gonna come over the top of the cap.
36:24
SPEAKER_04: And with Greenland, because President Trump has been talking about, you know, the American version of the Golden Dome that Israel has, this massive air defense network, Greenland and its proximity to Russia over the polar cap is uh massively important strategically.
36:40
SPEAKER_04: Um, but it also is the shipping lanes that come through, you know, from northern Europe, from Russia, et cetera, um, proximity to that.
36:47
SPEAKER_04: It is strategically for our defense, not just us, but also Europe is very, very important.
36:52
SPEAKER_04: And there was nothing being done with it.
36:54
SPEAKER_04: We used to have, you know, back in the 50s, um, radio uh um installations there that were trying to intercept Russian communications, but also allowed us to communicate across the globe and some other things.
37:07
SPEAKER_04: And with satellites, that kind of went out of necessity for the most part.
37:11
SPEAKER_04: But the ground was still important.
37:13
SPEAKER_04: And uh now we've got back, we've got control of it back.
37:16
SPEAKER_04: And uh I can promise you that uh there are gonna be some US military folks that are gonna start getting stationed in Greenland.
37:23
SPEAKER_04: That's gonna happen over the next 10 years.
37:25
SPEAKER_04: I can promise that.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: There's actually, you know, I I try so hard to find shows that I'll be interested in.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: And I found, I don't know if you even know this, but there's uh you know who Dennis Leary is, the the actor.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: He has a a series.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know if it's still running, but there's a couple at least a couple seasons out.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: And in it's there, he's stationed.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: He's like a I don't know, army or something.
37:48
SPEAKER_01: It's a colonel, yeah.
37:49
SPEAKER_04: I've seen I've seen the commercials, I've never watched a minute of it.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: Um it's cute.
37:55
SPEAKER_04: Maybe Netflix, I don't know.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, it's cute.
37:59
SPEAKER_01: I I mean I liked I liked it well enough, or I like it well enough.
38:02
SPEAKER_01: I'll watch if and when there's another season out.
38:04
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't know if there is or not.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's cute.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: It's very light, it's fluffy, it's not deep at all, um, which is actually exactly what I look for when I'm looking for a series, by the way.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: I want pure fluff.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: My day is inundated with all of the serious, important things that are happening in the universe.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: And and I like to shut my brain off and just wait, watch something that means nothing.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: But that's all irrelevant to why I even brought that up.
38:29
SPEAKER_01: It's just set in Greenland.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: There it is.
38:33
SPEAKER_01: So, so this may do very well for the show.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: This may, you know, renew some interest in the show.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: So they better, you know, make sure they step up that that writing for the show and write this in, and or maybe not, depending on you know the writer's perspective.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: Who knows?
38:48
SPEAKER_01: But whatever.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was interesting.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's not.
38:51
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: Um listen, we're like on the Trump uh hour here.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, we got uh Trump at the UN, yes?
38:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was uh so folks, it's it is Wednesday.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: We are recording Wednesday.
39:04
SPEAKER_04: It is currently uh 10 minutes to two on the East Coast.
39:08
SPEAKER_04: So there's your reference point.
39:10
SPEAKER_04: And uh so President Trump yesterday stood up at the UN General Assembly, uh, addressed them uh and talked about Iran, talked about quite a few things, told the International Criminal Court they should all resign.
39:24
SPEAKER_04: It's a sham, it's politicized, and that we were not gonna bow down to a bunch of as a sovereign nation, bow down to some unelected officials, um, which I think was pretty much his sentiment about the UN itself.
39:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
39:36
SPEAKER_04: Um but uh he talked smack about Iran with their delegate in the room.
39:41
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
39:42
SPEAKER_04: Uh, which that man's reaction was not uh not happy.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: He didn't like it, he wasn't impressed.
39:50
SPEAKER_03: Not even a little.
39:51
SPEAKER_03: No.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: No.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: Hmm, interesting.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: Well, you know, you gotta hand it to him.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: He goes into the headquarters of uh global diplomacy to tell him exactly why he doesn't like how they do global diplomacy.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: He doesn't he doesn't pull any punches, right, wrong, or indifferent.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: He does not hold back.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: Never gonna wonder where that man stands on anything.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, so obviously Iran was a big part of that.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, he defended the administration's military actions.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, what else?
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh reiterated that Iran, Iran can't be allowed to acquire the nuclear weapon.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: Feel like that should be obvious, but it's not.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, what else?
40:28
SPEAKER_01: What else?
40:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I just it was a shot across the bow.
40:33
SPEAKER_04: And it's continued messaging from him.
40:36
SPEAKER_04: And you've seen this before, you know, when either him or Secretary uh Rubio, who by the way just got named as the permanent national security advisor.
40:44
SPEAKER_04: So the memes are of him on the couch are already out there.
40:47
SPEAKER_04: Yep, of course.
40:48
SPEAKER_04: But uh they have said repeatedly, and even Secretary Heggs, when it comes to UN, UN associated organizations, IAEA, International Criminal Court, or you get into NATO, um, they are not fans of them as they exist in their current structure, in their current uh, you know, the path that they are on, how they handle business, because they have all collectively, um, those organizations have kind of gone into the woke world in many, many cases, right?
41:20
SPEAKER_04: Or they're not holding up what the true intent was behind their original organization.
41:27
SPEAKER_04: Like NATO right now is kind of floundering because NATO doesn't know what to do with itself.
41:31
SPEAKER_04: The UN has, you know, let in so many bad actors that you don't even know like why does the UN exist at this point?
41:39
SPEAKER_04: There is very, very little benefit to it.
41:42
SPEAKER_04: And that was kind of his point.
41:44
SPEAKER_04: Like, you guys are useless, and I'm not listening to you anymore because you you add no value.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: Was that that was at that um he did talk about Melania Trump there, right?
41:54
SPEAKER_01: He was giving her some glowing reviews.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: But that was that there, or was that in a different speech?
41:59
SPEAKER_01: Am I confusing two?
42:01
SPEAKER_04: You're talking was that a year ago?
42:04
SPEAKER_01: Was it?
42:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: I just saw a clip.
42:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I just saw a clip of you.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
42:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
42:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
42:10
SPEAKER_01: Um my my point being, I've noticed that she is taking on a lot more of um significant roles in on conversations that I don't know if any previous first ladies were were in on it.
42:25
SPEAKER_04: I can think of one.
42:28
SPEAKER_01: Who?
42:29
SPEAKER_04: She became Secretary of State.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: So wow, amazing how I can erase her from my brain so easily, huh?
42:38
SPEAKER_01: Amazing how she just I yeah, exactly.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: Um so many things I could say, but I won't.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: I won't.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: Not right now, because that's all that's like a whole other topic.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: That'll take us in a whole other direction.
42:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, but um, yeah, I find it interesting that she is being positioned um a little bit a lot differently than she was in the previous um term.
43:01
SPEAKER_01: Do you think that means anything as far as her her involvement in politics in in any way, shape, or form?
43:09
SPEAKER_01: Or is this just simply she's just taking on things that she wants to take on?
43:14
SPEAKER_04: So I think it's one, he would never do it without talking to her, um, without her endorsement.
43:19
SPEAKER_04: He would never, for a lot of reasons, he would never do that.
43:22
SPEAKER_04: Um two, it shows you how small, and we knew this with the kids, right?
43:27
SPEAKER_04: He his circle of trust is very, very small.
43:31
SPEAKER_04: Um and that's why he has employed his children, not just in business, but in politics, especially in the first term.
43:37
SPEAKER_04: But but Melania wasn't involved in the first term.
43:39
SPEAKER_01: She was very much just being kind of she was busy raising her whole thing that time was she was raising their son.
43:45
SPEAKER_04: She had Baron, right?
43:46
SPEAKER_04: And and she was very much the counter to her predecessor, right?
43:50
SPEAKER_04: Much zero staff, very little, um, you know, was concentrating on on the White House and and those kinds of things.
43:56
SPEAKER_04: And and now I think especially now we're a year.
44:00
SPEAKER_04: And a half into a second term with two and a half to go.
44:04
SPEAKER_04: You know, her deep ties to Eastern Europe and the culture and those kinds of things, I'm sure she's been a great advisor to him over the years.
44:10
SPEAKER_04: And he may have said, you know, I can totally picture in my head the two of them sitting on the couch, you know, at midnight with the TV on.
44:17
SPEAKER_04: Um, and something comes up and she gives him some great advice.
44:20
SPEAKER_04: And he looks at her and he goes, Why aren't you just do with this?
44:23
SPEAKER_04: Like, why aren't, you know, why don't I put this on your plate?
44:26
SPEAKER_04: Would you do that?
44:27
SPEAKER_04: Would you be interested?
44:27
SPEAKER_04: You'd be good at it, that kind of thing.
44:29
SPEAKER_04: And if she didn't want to do it, she would never say yes.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:34
SPEAKER_01: No, she has never uh struck me or hopefully anyone as a wallflower, as a as a yes ma'am, yes, sir woman.
44:41
SPEAKER_01: She is an extremely strong, independent um competent.
44:46
SPEAKER_04: Whatever role he's asking her to play, major or minor, uh, it was not without her endorsement, and it is something that she is either willing or wanting to get involved with.
44:57
SPEAKER_04: So if he's doing that, again, it's a great demonstration of how small is that circle.
45:02
SPEAKER_04: Again, Secretary Rubio, hey, you're in the Secretary of State.
45:05
SPEAKER_04: Uh, I know that you've been the acting national security advisor for the last however many months, but now I'm gonna make it permanent.
45:10
SPEAKER_04: Do you know how many times that's happened in history?
45:12
SPEAKER_04: Once.
45:13
SPEAKER_04: Do you know who it was?
45:14
SPEAKER_04: Henry Kissinger.
45:15
SPEAKER_04: That's the only other so, like if people underestimate Rubio, which if you're still underestimating that guy, you've been living in a closet for the last few years.
45:24
SPEAKER_04: Um I honestly can say he is a peer in every sense of the word to Henry Kissinger.
45:32
SPEAKER_04: Um, and this just proves it because that's the only other time this has happened was under President Nexon.
45:37
SPEAKER_04: Only time.
45:38
SPEAKER_04: So but again, it's a very small circle, very, very small type circle.
45:42
SPEAKER_04: And so that's if if he's giving her stuff to do, that's why.
45:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like it.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: I I I love it actually.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: I I think it's a it's a great, it's great optics for one, and it's it's common sense for two.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: And it's great to see her taking on um these you know power roles essentially.
46:00
SPEAKER_01: So it's it's pretty cool.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, let's move on to something I don't love that most Americans, I don't think any Americans love.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about uh the cost of diesel right now.
46:11
SPEAKER_01: Listen, I'm gonna tell you this is one of those stories when I saw that Clay pass it over.
46:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm not gonna lie, I kind of was like, eh, you know, I don't drive a diesel truck.
46:20
SPEAKER_01: What do I care?
46:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, that obviously don't come at me.
46:22
SPEAKER_01: I know you're all gonna come at me like you're so dumb.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know I'm dumb at certain things, but yes, I also do understand the bigger impact because how do our groceries get to the stores across the country?
46:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, diesel using trucks is how.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we're all impacted.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: So yes, I know.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: Don't even say it in the comments.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Gla, I'm letting you take over.
46:49
SPEAKER_04: So this is not, this is not just a because a lot of people say, oh, it's because of Iran.
46:54
SPEAKER_04: Uh, that's the immediate reaction.
46:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's because of Iran.
46:56
SPEAKER_04: You know, President Trump screwed this up, Straits of Hormuz.
46:59
SPEAKER_04: That's why this is.
47:00
SPEAKER_04: And the reality is that there is a global shortage of diesel fuel.
47:04
SPEAKER_04: Um, yes, the Strait of Hormuz does play into this.
47:06
SPEAKER_04: There's no question about it.
47:08
SPEAKER_04: Um, but one of the biggest factors is the that the Ukrainians have been bombing the crap out of Russian refineries that are refining diesel.
47:18
SPEAKER_04: Um so that is putting the rest of the world uh at a at a you know at a deficit.
47:25
SPEAKER_04: At the same time, those same refineries that do the the refining to turn you know uh crude oil or oil into diesel are the same ones that produce heating oil.
47:37
SPEAKER_04: And listen, I know we're the United States, we run on nuclear, we run on coal.
47:41
SPEAKER_04: You know, if you have lived at all in the Northeast, people still do use heating oil, right?
47:46
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you know, if if you've ever been in any of these old houses and they've got the big tank in the basement, I've lived in a couple of those.
47:51
SPEAKER_04: Um, that's still a big thing.
47:53
SPEAKER_04: But most of Europe, um, and a lot of the Eastern Europe, especially, still runs on heating oil.
47:58
SPEAKER_04: Those same refineries now have to prioritize are they going to refine it into diesel or are they going to refine it into heating oil?
48:06
SPEAKER_04: Um, and so um with the Ukrainians bombing the Russian refineries, that hurts a lot.
48:13
SPEAKER_04: Strait of Hormuz hurts a lot.
48:14
SPEAKER_04: Plus, you've got refineries in the United States that have been shut down and not replaced, right?
48:19
SPEAKER_04: Uh, and that not that we refine a ton of diesel in the United States, but every bit of it hurts right now because of these things going on.
48:27
SPEAKER_04: And so for everybody that's complaining, oh, well, Trump, you know, he he hasn't rate he hasn't lowered the price of XYZ, he hasn't lowered the price of X, you know, of this and that and these products, and you know, it's still expensive to buy whatever.
48:38
SPEAKER_04: Um, it's the price of gas, folks.
48:41
SPEAKER_04: And you can blame the the oil companies as much as you want, but there's a lot of factors out of their control um in this whole thing.
48:48
SPEAKER_04: So, yes, it's gonna affect all of us, but do you really want to fix this?
48:52
SPEAKER_04: The the immediate answer is the war, the Russia-Ukraine war's gotta stop.
48:56
SPEAKER_04: And you know, the straits got to open up in Iran, and then we need to start building refineries again.
49:01
SPEAKER_04: We haven't built refineries in decades.
49:03
SPEAKER_04: And so we need to help ourselves.
49:05
SPEAKER_04: It's not just having access to the oil, but the ability to refine it.
49:08
SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
49:10
SPEAKER_01: Do you think um the the Russia-Ukraine, because obviously, you know, Iran has taken more of the spotlight in the the world uh news sector there for us.
49:20
SPEAKER_01: Uh, do you think that's going to start taking a little more center stage as far as the or at least sharing?
49:26
SPEAKER_04: So now that this is public, like that was a very people didn't realize that that was part of the problem because the immediate gut reaction or knee-jerk reaction was Iran.
49:34
SPEAKER_04: Right.
49:34
SPEAKER_04: But now that this is becoming more mainstream news, there was supposedly a deal in the works between Russia and Ukraine that they would no longer target um energy resources uh going both directions.
49:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh and even uh President Trump actually said something about it in public.
49:51
SPEAKER_04: Hey, that this and he, of course, being President Trump was like, Yeah, there's already a deal in place.
49:54
SPEAKER_04: This thing's gonna get done in the next 12 hours.
49:56
SPEAKER_04: And six days later, uh, you know, Zelensky was like, I can't deal with these guys.
50:02
SPEAKER_04: And so um this is another opportunity for us to step in and potentially like at least affect that conflict that way.
50:10
SPEAKER_04: Uh stop blowing up refineries and storage facilities and power plants and all that other crap.
50:15
SPEAKER_04: Um so I think this is gonna continue to gain attention, which will turn attention back onto the Ukraine war, especially through the winter time, uh and as grocery prices continue to not come down.
50:27
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
50:28
SPEAKER_01: All right, well, we're gonna keep watching it.
50:29
SPEAKER_01: And uh, it may be our our new most repeating topic, right?
50:34
SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
50:35
SPEAKER_01: It could be.
50:36
SPEAKER_01: Uh this one.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: So listen, every every topic you bring over is interesting.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: Don't don't get me wrong.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: But this one um had me raise my eyebrows a little bit.
50:45
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think the answer is kind of yes and no at the same time.
50:49
SPEAKER_01: So the topic is are the Democrats actually losing Jewish voters?
50:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I as I know you did, you did your research.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: I did my research, and I guess polling is is uh saying that like 67% currently planning to vote Democratic for Congress and 26% Republican.
51:08
SPEAKER_01: Um so it has that number, I guess, has not changed drastically uh since May.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: May is the date that they gave or the month that they gave.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, so based on the polling, no, not necessarily, but um there's some other factors here that 89%, 89% say that they were concerned about anti-Semitism, and 71% said that they felt emotionally attached to Israel.
51:36
SPEAKER_01: So um, so and that's why I'm saying the answer is yes and no.
51:39
SPEAKER_01: So if you go by the polling numbers, not such a big uh deal.
51:43
SPEAKER_01: But when you look at those numbers, they may be having some trouble, right?
51:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's uh it's interesting as you start to see some of these politicians, obviously Mom Dani, who's already in office.
51:58
SPEAKER_04: You've got El Sayed, right, who in you know in Michigan, um where you do have some you know Jewish pockets, but but the fact that they are in the mainstream media and being endorsed by, like, you know, all politics are local, but at this point with social media and mainstream media, no politics are local because you've got people from out of state, right, national level or from other states that are endorsing.
52:25
SPEAKER_04: So like in the case of like AOC jumped in the middle of this thing with Macklemore, right?
52:30
SPEAKER_04: Right, and it's like, right?
52:32
SPEAKER_04: So she's from New York.
52:34
SPEAKER_04: Okay, and so does that just affect her voters?
52:37
SPEAKER_04: No, but she also turns around and endorses other candidates.
52:42
SPEAKER_04: So as she does that, she drags her quote unquote support for Palestine along with her in her endorsement.
52:49
SPEAKER_04: So whether she, you know, it's not just restricted to her very small manufactured district of like 3,500 voters, unbelievable.
52:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
52:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
53:00
SPEAKER_04: But it bleeds over into whoever she endorses.
53:02
SPEAKER_04: And so you're gonna start to see, I think, as the you know, the primaries are now over for this midterm election coming in November.
53:11
SPEAKER_04: So now you're gonna see the real live like candidate versus candidate, party versus party stuff.
53:16
SPEAKER_04: I think you're gonna see that specific topic drug into while you were endorsed by so-and-so, and that individual, you know, supports Palestine, and you've got dense Jewish voters in your district.
53:27
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, what if you if you want their support, like you know, you you've got to denounce or stay away from or keep at bay, or you know, it's gonna become this the stupidity of this Palestine thing bleeding into and people I know are gonna come after me for saying that, but of course everybody voicing an opinion on this is is polarizing immediately.
53:49
SPEAKER_04: Like guns, abortion, and Israel right now are still the three probably most divisive topics uh with Iran coming in, I think, a distant fourth.
54:00
SPEAKER_04: Um so when you take sides, you're immediately polarizing people, and it has an effect on how people vote.
54:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
54:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think the only question I would really ask, or I guess I would maybe turn the question around that we have in our headline.
54:13
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, instead of um why are Jewish voters leaving the Democrats, I honestly would ask the question of why aren't more?
54:21
SPEAKER_01: Like, why aren't more?
54:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you thinking?
54:24
SPEAKER_01: What are you doing here?
54:25
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
54:26
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
54:27
SPEAKER_01: So that I mean that that's that's my only that that is my only take on the whole thing.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: I cannot believe when you look at mom Donnie and say it in all of this, when you look at all of this, AOC, uh, every single one of them, and that this is becoming more and more and more the socialist democrat party than just simply the Democrat Party.
54:46
SPEAKER_01: How are you still with these people?
54:50
SPEAKER_01: They are not for you.
54:52
SPEAKER_01: So that's all I'm gonna say on it.
54:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, my my only guess in that, because people I analyze these things and it's all about the demographics, is I I'm very curious about how what the population is of practicing faithful Jews in the United States.
55:10
SPEAKER_04: Is it going down?
55:11
SPEAKER_04: Is it maintaining?
55:12
SPEAKER_04: Is it going up?
55:13
SPEAKER_04: Because if it's going down, then people will care less.
55:18
SPEAKER_04: Right?
55:18
SPEAKER_04: College will care less, and they'll say, oh, well, it doesn't matter.
55:21
SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, that's that's not even a swing vote.
55:24
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm not even I'm not worried about that, you know, three percent.
55:27
SPEAKER_04: Um, but I'm sure they've analyzed.
55:29
SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm sure some of them have analyzed, and some of them just run their mouth.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: It is what is what it is.
55:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
55:34
SPEAKER_01: AOC cough cough.
55:37
SPEAKER_01: Her handlers have looked into it though.
55:39
unknown: Yeah.
55:40
SPEAKER_01: Told her what to say and do.
55:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, all right.
55:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, once again, as always, we're gonna watch it.
55:46
SPEAKER_01: If it uh comes up again, we'll be talking about it again.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: Not that it's again.
55:49
SPEAKER_01: We'll know.
55:50
SPEAKER_01: We will know.
55:50
SPEAKER_01: And obviously we'll be talking about it, guys.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, let's see.
55:54
SPEAKER_01: We've got we've got two more, and we're gonna do it.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: We can do it.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about this.
55:57
SPEAKER_01: This is really interesting.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: The 1619 project's Nicole Hannah Jones gets a reality check from her own daughter.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: So, guys, if you don't know this story, um this is you know what?
56:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna let you talk.
56:10
SPEAKER_01: You go ahead.
56:11
SPEAKER_01: Tell them what this is about.
56:12
SPEAKER_04: Yes, so you know, the 1619 project is really where CR, it's CRT, right?
56:18
SPEAKER_04: It's critical race theory um under another name or at least heavily associated with it.
56:22
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, so that uh when you said her name, I'm drawing a blank, but she, you know, she is the face and the name and the voice associated with the 1619 project.
56:30
SPEAKER_04: She is the founder.
56:32
SPEAKER_04: Uh, she's an African-American black woman who, you know, had children of her own.
56:35
SPEAKER_04: And to support her own, or in support of her theory about CRT, she put her daughter, her own daughter, into a less than desirable school in the inner city that did not perform well.
56:50
SPEAKER_04: Uh, and her daughter has now come out and said a couple of things.
56:54
SPEAKER_04: One, she took a shot at her for her um for her ethics, for her beliefs, right?
57:01
SPEAKER_04: But then she took a shot at her as a mom.
57:03
SPEAKER_04: And what she said was, one, you put me at a disadvantage by putting me in the you chose to put me at a disadvantage by putting me in this school.
57:13
SPEAKER_04: And if you're putting, essentially, if you're putting me at a disadvantage, you're putting all these other kids at a disadvantage.
57:17
SPEAKER_04: Um, and then she turned around and said, I wish that you would have prioritized your own children over other people's children.
57:24
SPEAKER_04: So she basically said, You care about other kids more than your own, you're a crappy mom.
57:30
SPEAKER_04: Um, and so that woman is now having deep, deep, very public uh second thoughts about everything that she has done so far.
57:39
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how much it's gonna affect the 1619 project, but her as a person, which is great reflection, it's interesting that it's become public.
57:45
SPEAKER_04: Um, but she is she is saying this out loud.
57:48
SPEAKER_04: Now, of course, everybody's second favorite idiot on network television, Sonny Hoston, uh, had to defend, she defended this 1619 project against the founder who is having second thoughts, and said, Well, I sent my kids to very rich white private schools and they experienced racism there.
58:10
SPEAKER_04: Because, you know, this is the same lady who said that her romance novels are getting turned into books into movies because of racism.
58:16
SPEAKER_04: Right.
58:17
SPEAKER_04: So everything is racism.
58:19
SPEAKER_04: Right.
58:19
SPEAKER_04: Standard answer from Sonny Huston.
58:21
SPEAKER_04: Racism, racism everywhere.
58:22
SPEAKER_04: Everything is racism, and just dumb enough to look the founder in her face and go, I don't know what to tell you.
58:29
SPEAKER_04: I I I think it's the other way, which is a flame.
58:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah, she sits there and says, You're completely wrong about your personal experience.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: You don't know what you're talking about.
58:38
SPEAKER_01: You gotta love it, right?
58:39
SPEAKER_01: I mean, how do you not laugh?
58:41
SPEAKER_01: How do you not laugh?
58:42
SPEAKER_01: Because if you don't, you'll your head will just pop off because it's just so absurd.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, yeah, I agree with you.
58:51
SPEAKER_04: And for all of us that sat on the sidelines and were like, well, yeah, of course.
58:54
SPEAKER_04: Like, duh.
58:55
SPEAKER_04: Right.
58:56
SPEAKER_04: Um, it's just validation from a very personal place for that lady.
58:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
59:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
59:02
SPEAKER_01: So listen, I I I give her a lot of credit for making this very personal, embarrassing uh painting realization and introspection very public.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I give her a lot of credit for doing that, for saying, listen, I think I might have gotten something wrong here.
59:20
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, and like, you know, again, to echo you, um, we're all sitting here going, well, duh, duh.
59:28
SPEAKER_01: But uh props to her for acknowledging it and making this potentially a bigger and an important conversation for people of that mindset that this is the way to do this.
59:40
SPEAKER_01: And um, you know, this is this is their hang on, wait a minute moment.
59:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm sad and sorry that it was at her daughter's expense, her daughter's uh opportunity in education expense.
59:49
SPEAKER_01: And that's that's sad.
59:51
SPEAKER_01: But you don't, you don't put yourself or your child for that matter in a lesser position in order to prove your point.
59:58
SPEAKER_01: You work to bring everybody else up to the opportunities that you have, and you find reasonable, practical, logical ways to do that, improve the schools for one.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, so yeah, very that was actually really, really interesting.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: And um, even though I love to end on a high note, it's always my favorite thing to do, and I know it's your favorite thing to do.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_01: We can't we can we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about this one because I I saw this one as well.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_01: This is one of the few that I also saw, and um, it just it it chilled me to the bone.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: It's just horrifying.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_01: So the Canadian uh maid, but it it's the what what's the acronym for?
1:00:37
SPEAKER_01: It's um medical no, I'm trying I can't find it.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_04: Oh, here's like a medical assistance in dying.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Medical assistance assistance in dying program.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_01: So um an 83-year-old, here's the story, an 83-year-old Canadian grandmother named Bridget Stegman died through Canada's medical assistance and dying program on July 10th.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_01: She had stage four uh stomach cancer.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_01: Her granddaughter had been her longtime caregiver and held power of attorney for the per for personal care.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_01: She is now asking Ontario authorities to investigate whether the legal safeguards surrounding her grandmother's death were actually followed.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_01: Um this is so sad, guys.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_01: This is so sad.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_01: So, according to her, according to the granddaughter, the grant her grandmother had previously rejected maid, medically assisted, blah, blah, blah, uh, in dying.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_01: The family, let's see, the family um says that while the granddaughter was away, the issue was raised again and assessments proceeded, and they also questioned whether Stegman was cognitively capable of giving informed consent, alleging that during assessment, she couldn't correctly answer basic questions about members of her own family.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_01: Here's the part that stopped me in my tracks.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_01: Two days before her scheduled death, before her scheduled death, let me just emphasize that, her granddaughter says that she finally explained very plainly what was going to happen.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_01: And her grandmother became distraught and repeatedly said, I made a mistake.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: So this elderly woman with state what was what I say, stage four stomach cancer, stomach cancer, yes, changed her mind, said, and again, yes, according to the granddaughter, but according to the granddaughter, the the grandmother changed her mind and the procedure went forward anyhow.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_01: They killed her.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_01: Um this whole thing is problematic, anyhow.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_01: This, you know, they call it, they try and pretty it up and they're like, you know, euthanasia.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_01: They try to use words other than you know, assisted blah, blah, blah.
1:02:40
SPEAKER_01: They always try and make things sound better and more gentle in than what they are.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_01: I I have some some fundamental moral issues with with assisted suicide.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_01: And I everybody has their opinions and their perspectives on it.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_01: And I respect other people's.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I'm sure there are people that won't respect mine, and that's actually fine.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't really care.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_01: But um, I just think human life has inherent value.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_01: But um, I don't know.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_01: What do you think, Clay?
1:03:06
SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts on this whole thing?
1:03:09
SPEAKER_04: It it from what I understood, it started while that granddaughter was on a vacation.
1:03:14
SPEAKER_04: So hospital overstepped its bounds, or the program manager, whoever overstepped their bounds in that.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_04: Yes, the granddaughter had power of attorney.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_04: Yes, it had been identified that uh whether it was dementia or Alzheimer's, the grandmother was in the early stages of that.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_04: There was there was evidence of cognitive decline.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_04: So they shouldn't have been talking to her about this anyway, not without her granddaughter being there.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_04: But then in the course of that week or however long, while the granddaughter was, you know, out of touch, they they you know continued the interview process and they got to the point where this grandmother had made decisions.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_04: And then I just I cannot wrap my head around the fact that the granddaughter was back, was interested, was involved, right, and had power of attorney, and they still went through with it when they had plenty of.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_04: Listen, until they pressed the plunger or however the hell they do it, you can stop these things from going forward.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_04: Like I just I am baffled.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_04: I think this was somebody to me who wanted to prove that this could be and should be done.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_04: They were so thirsty to have this happen that all common sense went out the flipping window.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_04: Like, this is an unbelievable occurrence to me.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_04: And unfortunately, as I did research on this, I found out that they also last year, I want to say it was September or November of 25, they euthanized a two-year-old boy who under there was some doctor discussion about his level of of you know um health in that they hadn't exhausted all resources.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_04: There was still potential to change medications and having different outs, they hadn't exhausted everything.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_04: And yet when MAD got involved, the parents were like, Yep, time to put them down.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_04: And they and they euthanized a two-year-old over this.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_04: And I go back, we even talked about this on this show years ago.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_04: Um, and they offered this as a way out to veterans who were going through mental health crisis.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_04: And that was where it really hit the mainstream media was, you know, we have a suicide prevention hotline, right?
1:05:12
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_04: They had an assisted suicide hotline.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_04: Like I'm a veteran, I'm going, I was in Afghanistan, I'm going through some stuff, I'm having a really, really bad day.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_04: And uh, you know, I want and and you could call and they would talk you through it.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_04: Like it was like, you know, hey, here's the process.
1:05:25
SPEAKER_04: Here's how you could come in.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_04: We could solve your problem for you.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_04: It's insanity.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_04: But now they're doing it, and and you said it, right?
1:05:31
SPEAKER_04: The morals and ethics associated with this in general are of question.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_04: But I firmly believe that this is the progression, right?
1:05:40
SPEAKER_04: So we had Dr.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_04: Kavork in and we remember that guy from when we were very well, yeah.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_04: And that was a huge debate when we were younger.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_04: But this you get to this place, you get to that two year old boy when you say early term abortion, midterm abortion, late term abortion, abortion, all the way up to before birth.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_04: And people are totally okay with that.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_04: And then it turns into, well, he's two years old and he's in bad shape and he doesn't have a lot of life prospects.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_04: So let's just abort him at two, which is what you're doing.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_05: Right?
1:06:11
SPEAKER_04: Or you're 83 years old and you can't contribute anymore.
1:06:13
SPEAKER_04: So let's just abort you at 83.
1:06:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_04: And so the moral decay in Canada to have this as a program is appalling, but not unexpected, because of people just like Justin Trudeau.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_01: We are um we are are witness to uh such incredibly evil and corrupt times.
1:06:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh it is breathtaking, and I don't mean that in a good way.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_01: It is breathtaking the mass moral decay.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_01: And what makes it so terrifying is that it's coming from authority and leadership positions where these people are being given authority and power over people's lives, people's decisions, and vulnerable people, children and the elderly.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_01: And to be able to make those kind of um godlike decisions is horrifying.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_01: It is truly horrifying.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_01: And if and anyone who sits there and doesn't know to be horrified by this, does not have the capacity for foresight to be able to see ahead and to see down the road where this is going.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_01: Because I can tell you, we know this, that there was a point when people were saying, and there's people who still say it, um, well, abortion up to six weeks, but that's it.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_01: We'd never go past that because that's terrible.
1:07:44
SPEAKER_01: What happens?
1:07:45
SPEAKER_01: They keep pushing the line, pushing the line, pushing the line, and here we are.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_01: Here we are, guys.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_01: So my goodness, I hope people wake up and start rejecting all of this.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't I don't hold a lot of hope for that.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_01: So, oh, did I just put a downer?
1:08:06
SPEAKER_01: Did I just put on a downer or what?
1:08:08
SPEAKER_01: Went, went, went.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_01: Elsa brought us down.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_01: Sorry, guys.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_01: Uh listen, um, and let's bright sight it here.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_01: I can't bright sight it on any of those topics.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_01: I really can't.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_01: Uh what I can say, um, don't get overwhelmed by all of it because it's really, really easy.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_01: There is so much beauty in the world.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_01: And uh what what's that saying?
1:08:32
SPEAKER_01: I'll take a variation of the saying and saying, if you can't see the light, be the light.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_01: That's I want that to be my sign-off.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_01: Can that be my sign-off?
1:08:40
SPEAKER_01: Right?
1:08:41
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
1:08:41
SPEAKER_01: I could do whatever I can.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_04: That sounds like an Elsa tattoo, I think.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_01: I mean, right?
1:08:45
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it is.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, listen, guys.
1:08:47
SPEAKER_01: I I may have not have created it, but I'm taking it and I'm using it.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_01: If you can't see the light, be the light, guys.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay, there's our there's our bright side, and uh, you close them out with the good word of the day.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_04: And and to counter that.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_01: Counter that.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_04: When in doubt, keep moving, keep shooting.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_04: We'll see you next week.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_01: That was actually perfect.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_01: All right, my friends, we will see you all next week.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_01: Have a great rest of your day, great rest of your week, whatever it is.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_01: Don't forget to follow, like, subscribe, share, comment, blah, blah, blah.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_01: Take care.
1:09:20
SPEAKER_02: The headlines will change by tomorrow, but the patterns won't.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: Thanks for spending this time with us.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_02: We'll be back to keep asking the harder questions and telling the quieter truths.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_02: Until then, stay grounded, be discerning, and we'll see you next time.