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Why More People Are Choosing Counseling Today | Episode 431 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hi everyone, it's Justin here of Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for joining us on another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
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• 1:09
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• 1:21
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• 1:27
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• 1:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Lovevoices.org, lovevoices.org, and that's O R G at the end.
• 1:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're gonna talk about therapy today on this episode.
• 1:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some people like it, some people despise it, some people are on the fence, uh, not not quite sure.
• 2:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, they think it's a bad thing, maybe, uh, that uh nobody's gonna understand me, that I don't need to go to therapy because the word therapy, just like the word the words mental health, it's kind of like there's a stigma around the word therapy, and we're here to squash that because terms, names are only half of what's happening.
• 2:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, with mental health, for example, we all have mental health.
• 2:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, for me to sit here and and talk about and share about my mental health, that's me talking about my own personal mental health.
• 2:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I have physical health and I have mental health.
• 3:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes I talk about physical health, sometimes I talk about mental health.
• 3:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes I talk about therapy, sometimes I don't.
• 3:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Therapy, counseling, you know, the uh various various terms uh can mean very similar uh definitions.
• 3:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I'm going to go talk to my counselor, I'm gonna go talk to my therapist, uh, I'm gonna go talk to my uh psychiatrist.
• 3:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um those are the types of things that I'm familiar with.
• 3:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so when we talk about specifically therapy slash counseling, I used to think it was the scariest thing in the world.
• 3:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we'll back up my life a little bit.
• 4:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Where I've shared this before, where I was in my teens and I took a lot of cold and cough pills, so much so that I needed to be admitted into the hospital, have my stomach pumped, charcoal, all those non-fun things.
• 4:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So upon my release, one of the things that I was asked to do was to go to therapy, go see a counselor.
• 4:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I remember being visited in the in the hospital, and some a person came in and said they were a caseworker, and I didn't know what a caseworker was.
• 4:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I didn't I didn't know.
• 4:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I forget exactly how the conversation went.
• 5:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just remember being in that not great state of my body and mind after that happened, and trying to slowly get those active ingredients and others out out of my out of my system to start to uh to start to heal, you know, from the inside out.
• 5:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so when I was released, I went to trying to think of how many.
• 5:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So there's this I don't want to call it like a buffer.
• 6:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, I'll call buffer.
• 6:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, you know, it's a little buffer zone of from starting to like where where the uh medication is gonna start working, or at least it's gonna you're gonna be able to feel it, feel a change in a positive way.
• 7:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, I didn't quite make it through the negative thoughts, bad thought phase.
• 7:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I don't remember if I tried one or two different antidepressants of like I tried one maybe, and then and then may have tried another.
• 7:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not quite sure.
• 7:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Things are a little bit fuzzy.
• 7:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm 44 years old.
• 7:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um it's interesting.
• 7:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's some things I remember crystal clear, and and others I don't remember everything crystal clear.
• 7:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, and that's okay.
• 7:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so that was when I was I when I was introduced to therapy, counseling, you know, sitting in an office and ask questions, and I mean I was in my teens, I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life.
• 8:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I didn't I wasn't fitting in, and the friend group I had wasn't the healthiest, and uh and so that's kind of in a nutshell like where I was at.
• 8:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And yeah, so that was my first, you know, in my teens was the first time I was kind of introduced to therapy or counseling, or however we want to refer to it.
• 8:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Then 2017 hits 37, 36, 37.
• 8:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um and that hospital visit, the one that changed my life, I think for the better.
• 9:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because there's more positives that came out of that that that time than there were negatives.
• 9:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's still negative, there's still negatives.
• 9:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm first of all, nobody's perfect, as we all know.
• 9:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I'm not perfect.
• 9:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But as far as you know, what's this call my binge drinking of alcohol?
• 9:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't drink alcohol anymore.
• 9:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm fine with it, I don't need to.
• 9:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I can drink sparkling water, I can drink club soda if I'm in an environment where a lot of people are drinking alcohol, and it's it's like old hat for me.
• 9:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just I don't have a problem with that.
• 10:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If somebody asks me, I'll share with them.
• 10:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just like I've shared with millions through this show and through speaking engagements.
• 10:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So coming out of the hospital, I there were various group therapies that I was I was in, and then I also had a therapist slash counselor and then a psychiatrist uh and a few years into I mean several years, four or five, four or five, maybe yeah, four or five, uh my counselor retired, and so I was in search of a counselor, still seeing a psychiatrist, still managing my medication, and it listened to me, but not to the extent of you know a counselor, therapist, however you want to refer.
• 11:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And when my therapist retired, I looked around, I tried, there was, I think, one that I may have seen a few times.
• 11:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But it didn't work, it wasn't working out.
• 11:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It was a bit up in up in the ears.
• 11:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um and so again, I was in search, and I hadn't come across one.
• 11:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I was really just seeing a psychiatrist.
• 12:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so just recently did I start seeing also a therapist.
• 12:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: For the most part, therapy has been very helpful.
• 12:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm able to share, I'm able to talk freely.
• 12:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And what I wanna, one of the things I do want to share is just because you find a therapist and you you know go to a session or two, doesn't mean you're going to continue with that therapist, right?
• 13:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We all have different you know, a little bit different personalities and expectations of what we're looking for in a therapist, and so we might say, Ah, you know, thank you.
• 13:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I can you recommend somebody else?
• 13:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so it may take some time to find one, but don't let that deter you from finding one, because that's the easy thing to do.
• 13:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Trust me, I've been there.
• 13:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's been years since I've had a not only a psychiatrist medication management professional as well as a strictly therapist, therapy, counselor.
• 14:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so don't get don't beat yourself up over it.
• 14:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We all have different right, we we all we all have a little bit different minds and mindsets, and so we uh we don't need to beat up ourselves over that.
• 14:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We just keep searching, we keep looking.
• 14:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's one thing, that's one of the things that I've learned.
• 14:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, number one, therapy isn't bad, is actually for strong people who are talking about hard parts of their lives.
• 15:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's what really brought me into the hospital in 2017.
• 15:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: One of the big things was I wasn't dealing with things, 138 different things at that time.
• 15:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Health healthy.
• 15:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I was not, and it's so that you know that's one thing.
• 15:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You can call it what you want, call it therapy, call it counseling, call it talking to a person, uh sharing information with them guiding and and helping, but it really comes down to a two-way street, and that's what I found with my latest counselor is that the very beginning, like our first visit most of the time, was tell me a little bit why you're here, and I was like, how much time do we have?
• 16:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh because I'm I'm already past that like the therapy and counseling, like those things don't bother me like they they used to, so that's why that's why I'm laughing a little bit.
• 16:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not laughing because it's funny, like ha ha, I'm going to count.
• 16:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not that.
• 16:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just how much, how long do you have?
• 16:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because I have a lot to unpack.
• 16:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But before I even got to that point, my therapist went into depth about their background, their style.
• 16:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, probably about you know 10 minutes or so before I got into like, why are you here, Justin?
• 17:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it was very helpful because I was able to find out really quick if this person so far, like one visit in, was gonna be a good fit for me.
• 17:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And the one one one of the questions was like, what are you looking to get out of this?
• 17:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What are you looking to get out of our sessions together?
• 17:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, what's the reason?
• 17:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, how can I help facilitate what you're looking to get?
• 17:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, solve problems, give homework, like you know, there's a there's a lot of different things, and they said, you know, I don't I don't give homework, these are conversations.
• 18:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'll come in and ask questions as we're going through, but I'm here for you, and so whatever way you you want to go through the sessions, I said that's that's what I'm here for.
• 18:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that was exactly that was one of the things I was looking for was somebody, and I'm an introvert, remember?
• 18:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I'm an introvert, and and I said, you know, somebody that's somebody that you know will listen, we'll interject when when needed, we'll guide.
• 18:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um I just need to be able to take what's in here and stuff that's stressful or going on, and I need to be able to share.
• 19:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I think that's been the hardest kind of transition part over the years of I need to I need to do that, and sometimes that means I write things down, and other times it's just so heavy on my mind that I I just remember and so therapy is not scary, it's not if you're made to feel uncomfortable, if you're not, yeah, if you're not comfortable with the with who you're matched up with at first, that's okay.
• 19:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And the counselors, they don't take it personally.
• 20:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's it's a two-way street, it's not just what the counselor or therapist wants.
• 20:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's also what you want and what I want.
• 20:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because if we if you and I leave those sessions and we don't feel like we we got anywhere, it's like, oh, well, you know, they didn't listen to me, or I talked too much, and they didn't interject, and I I don't know if I'm on the right path, and you know, we can go on for for hours to talk through this, but I'm here to say therapy is not a bad word, counseling is not a bad word.
• 20:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I want to say, in a sense, in a sense, it's like talking to a friend, it's sharing information that you know with HIPAA and you know the different laws that are you know, unless you you know you're talking about harming yourself or others and and all that, it it stays you know between me and my therapist, you and your therapist, your friend and their therapist, what have you.
• 21:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's heavy.
• 21:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: A lot of this stuff that we're we talk about is very heavy, just like our show.
• 21:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Very heavy topics we talk about.
• 21:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Our TikTok lives, very heavy topics that we share and we talk about.
• 21:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's okay.
• 22:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But that's what we feel that we're called to do.
• 22:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why we're on earth?
• 22:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why we feel like we're on earth.
• 22:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The reasons why we feel that we're, you know, left on earth.
• 22:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just like I say, how did I make it to you know to be age 44?
• 22:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There must be something.
• 22:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, I'm a believer in God.
• 22:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There must be something that God said and God thinks about me.
• 22:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like Justin, I still have work for you to do.
• 22:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know what that is.
• 22:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it is voices for voices.
• 22:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's not.
• 22:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe voices for voices is just a part.
• 22:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's a stepping stone.
• 22:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know.
• 22:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's to be introduced to somebody uh that is a guest.
• 22:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I have no clue.
• 22:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I'm I I don't want I don't want to try to figure all that out.
• 23:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I can, but that just creates more and more stress of well, could it be this?
• 23:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Could it be that?
• 23:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And we could be here all day, all night, and for weeks thinking about what it is, why we're here, why we're still here.
• 23:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh well, we made it through some of the tough, really tough events of our lives.
• 23:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So therapy's not bad.
• 23:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Counseling, not bad.
• 23:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, I I thought I knew everything before 2017.
• 23:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I thought I I I could I could fix everything about me.
• 24:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I couldn't.
• 24:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I wanted to.
• 24:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I felt like I could.
• 24:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I felt that Justin, you can.
• 24:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You can fix everything.
• 24:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're the guy.
• 24:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But sometimes we we need to just reach out for some help.
• 24:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's not a bad thing.
• 24:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: One of the things I do believe wholeheartedly, I'm not saying this is exactly what God wants me to do.
• 24:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
• 24:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I wouldn't be in the position where we have cut filmed 430 plus episodes of this show with basically me as the staff.
• 25:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Me, not just the filming and recording and and and all that, whether you're watching, whether you're listening, but there's so much administrative busy work that goes on, you know, finding titles, descriptions, hashtags.
• 25:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's a lot of things that I wish I knew back when we got started with the show.
• 25:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so we kind of in a way wandered a little bit, and we have reached again those thousand cities that over a hundred countries across the world, and so by finding some efficiencies that we can do, or try to help broaden who watches and listens to our show.
• 26:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I have to give all the glory, first off, to God that put me in this position, and then secondly, it's got to be my psychiatrist, my therapist.
• 26:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because without those individuals, I wouldn't be here.
• 26:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I would have probably given up on life.
• 26:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I probably would have just yeah, it's probably what I would have done.
• 26:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What I would have done.
• 26:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I didn't give up.
• 27:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I haven't given up that I have a future therapy appointment, that I have a future psychiatry appointment.
• 27:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so while those may scare people, the terms, it doesn't for me.
• 27:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I need it.
• 27:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I get asked a lot of times.
• 27:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Justin, you know, you've been you've been getting therapy and seeing a psychiatrist and all the things.
• 27:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: How like when are you gonna stop?
• 27:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I say, I don't I don't I don't think I'm going to.
• 27:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I do need a therapist as well as the psychiatrist.
• 28:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because I can't get to the point of sitting and having my mind erases all over to even be right here in the moment as much as I can for our shows, if it wasn't for all those factors.
• 28:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If it wasn't for God, if it wasn't for my therapist, if it wasn't for my psychiatrist.
• 28:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so what is it for you?
• 29:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's okay.
• 29:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You can peek your head out of the shell.
• 29:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: As if you're a turtle.
• 29:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's how I felt.
• 29:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then I was kind of given almost basically an ultimatum.
• 29:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We can let you go home.
• 29:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're not dying right now, or we can admit you voluntarily, and we could diagnose and do that.
• 29:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So at my lowest, thinking I could do everything myself, I I it was at that point where I was like, Justin, you can't do everything, you need help.
• 30:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I know you don't want to believe the it's the mental health related for the most part.
• 30:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Help.
• 30:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: My nutrition was down, I lost about 40 pounds, wasn't eating but carrot sticks and playing on this.
• 30:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's just a lot of things that were going on, and so that's why I say I was at that was kind of lowest mental health-wise, but that was also like digging the foundation to get started to build somewhat of a semblance of a human being like me.
• 30:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And here we are, four hundred and thirty episodes plus later, reaching people, dignitaries, presidents, foreign ministers, uh, military generals, regular people, all from right here.
• 31:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's all because of you.
• 31:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You've continued to watch, you've continued to listen, you've continued to share, you've continued to donate as you've been able to at lovevoices.org.
• 31:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You've purchased books through Voices for Voices Publishing.
• 31:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You've watched our TikTok lives that happen time from time to time.
• 31:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Not only do I have psychiatrists, not only do I have therapists, but I have you, our fans, our listeners, our viewers.
• 32:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Those are the four big ones.
• 32:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then obviously, you know, bring in family as a constant.
• 32:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So those are the five things.
• 32:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I look at how can I alleviate some of the stress?
• 32:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: How can I alleviate things that are holding me up?
• 32:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I look at one of those five, and a lot of times it's more than one of those five things.
• 32:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So reach out, reach out to your friend group, reach out to 25, 50, 100, your friend group.
• 33:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Pass along to Voices for Voices, Podcasts, and TV show.
• 33:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: As you know, we're everywhere.
• 33:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're just behind the Dan Bongino show and the Joe Rogan experience.
• 33:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're here for the long haul.
• 33:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're not here just for just for the short term.
• 33:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're here for as long as I'm here, and I hope somebody continues this when I'm gone.
• 33:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But right now, I'm here, you're here, and we're doing this together.
• 33:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're sending a lot of love and good vibes your way, and let's celebrate the voices of everybody in the world.
• 33:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And until next time, Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices.
• 33:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 34:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you next time.
• 34:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We love you.
• 34:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you next time.