Latest / philly has heART / Little Sánchez Studio feat. Valentín Sánchez-Stoddard
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- 0:15We're going to Paris. Ooh la la. How has your
- 0:20weekend been? Humid. Right? Oh my God. So hot.
- 0:24Last night, black tie wedding. Partially outside.
- 0:29Yeah. To my knowledge, or at least I don't have
- 0:32a linen black tuxedo. I don't think there's such
- 0:37thing. Yeah. A couple layers in the Longwood
- 0:40Conservatory. Extra steamy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 0:44Eventually, we made it to the air -conditioned
- 0:47room. But the wedding was from a friend that
- 0:51we met through the arts. She's chair of the PMA
- 0:55Young Friends, isn't she? Yes, she is. Do you
- 0:58want to say her name? Yep, Kelly Farley. Shout
- 1:00out, Kelly. Now, Kelly Bowlings? Mazel. Exactly.
- 1:06Beautiful, beautiful wedding. Surprise at the
- 1:09end. A Longwood private fountain show with lights
- 1:14and music. Casual. Food, delicious. Flowers,
- 1:17everywhere. Weather. Hot. How about you? Petit
- 1:22Garçon and I went to Cecilia Paredes by my side
- 1:26or back of me at the Print Center yesterday.
- 1:28How was that? After like weeks and weeks of sharing
- 1:31it on the outro. You got there. We got there.
- 1:35Beautiful. She had both the first floor and the
- 1:39second floor. The first floor was a series of
- 1:43photo performances. She camouflages her body
- 1:48against intricate patterned fabrics reminiscent
- 1:52of Victorian parlors, allowing herself to disappear
- 1:56into the surroundings. Holding it up right now.
- 2:00Hey guys, check the show notes. Lovely. Incredible.
- 2:04How it lines up is just... Amazing. It wowed
- 2:09Petit Garçon, too. Beautiful floral prints that
- 2:13then, wow, and quilted prints that blend in with
- 2:19the figure and the background. Amazing. Very
- 2:22cool. Yeah. On the second floor, there was an
- 2:26installation called Wishes. Paredes recounts
- 2:32a singular experience while in a Peruvian church
- 2:34where she happened upon an urn filled to the
- 2:37top with wishes written by anonymous parishioners
- 2:40on slips of paper as entreaties to a saint. Wow.
- 2:44Over the years, she's collected numerous wishes
- 2:47from people around the world, and in this specific
- 2:51installation at the Print Center, she includes...
- 2:54the wishes of our visitors and they are printed
- 2:57in one long line strung together on a ribbon
- 3:00of paper that winds through the entire gallery
- 3:04on the second floor back i had to tell petit
- 3:08garcon not to try to touch it in the third gallery
- 3:11second floor front room it's a series of photographs
- 3:14of a woman mostly in an abandoned spaces Yeah,
- 3:20same woman, abandoned spaces, but seems to then
- 3:24pull from those spaces. So in one, it is pulling
- 3:30from the nature that is growing into the space
- 3:33and then into the woman. Another is taking what
- 3:38seems to be like an old weaver and then creating
- 3:42a woven dress of the subject as well. broken
- 3:49tiles from the abandoned space as well then matches
- 3:55the dress the subject is wearing very neat to
- 4:01meet the space to the subject yeah thank you
- 4:05for explaining i love it 95 Degrees is not going
- 4:10to keep us from checking out the last production
- 4:13of Tara, Bodies and Territories. No, it's not.
- 4:16Our original tickets were rained out and we were
- 4:20postponed to today. You excited? So excited.
- 4:25Same. Throw us in the woods. Throw the sound
- 4:29on. Let the art happen in front of us. It's going
- 4:32to be great. Da Vinci Art Alliance is still emergency
- 4:35fundraising. They ran into a $120 ,000 shortfall,
- 4:40have made significant progress. They only have
- 4:44until August to make it up. And so we're linking
- 4:47the fundraiser in the show notes. Now on to the
- 4:51conversation. On to the conversation. This is
- 5:07Robert Marsh, and you're listening to Philly
- 5:09Has Heart Podcast. In this podcast, we sit down
- 5:12with artists, gallerists, educators, curators,
- 5:15and other creatives who comprise the Philadelphia
- 5:18art world to discuss upcoming performances, exhibits,
- 5:22and other events and initiatives that are not
- 5:24to be missed. The art scene in Philadelphia is
- 5:27so rich that it can seem daunting. Consider this
- 5:30your weekend cultural recommendation. With me
- 5:33always is my producer, Lucinda Dyerland. Hey,
- 5:36hey, hey. And today we have with us Valentin
- 5:40Sanchez -Stoddard of Little Sanchez Studio. Thank
- 5:45you so much for joining us today. Thanks for
- 5:47having me. Yes, yes. So as always, we ask our
- 5:52guests to share their origin story with us. Can
- 5:56you take us back and share with us where art
- 6:00started with you? Again, thanks for having me
- 6:03here today. It's like I don't want to go super
- 6:06into detail because we could literally be here
- 6:08for like hours, days, centuries. Pretty much
- 6:12my... origins i guess uh i'm originally from
- 6:16the dc metropolitan area i'm from arlington virginia
- 6:21and i went to school in richmond virginia i am
- 6:25i guess a first generation immigrant my mom is
- 6:28from el salvador and my dad is originally from
- 6:31new york not new york city he's from the suburbs
- 6:36I guess you could say art was really encouraged
- 6:39in my household. So my dad is retired now, but
- 6:42he was a freelance cinematographer for more than
- 6:4530 years. And actually, my parents met in El
- 6:48Salvador during the Civil War in the 80s. So
- 6:52I honestly feel like that has really... I think
- 6:55like affected or informed my own art practice
- 6:59in terms of being a very curious person. I love
- 7:03kind of like delving into like historic roots
- 7:08and I don't know. I'm like super into science,
- 7:12super into history. And I love. when those things
- 7:15intersect with visual art. I've also lived a
- 7:18lot of places as well. So again, I'm from Virginia,
- 7:22but I also did a year of AmeriCorps back when
- 7:25I was 22 years old. So I actually moved to Arizona
- 7:30because I basically just wanted to get super
- 7:33away from everything I knew. Yes. Because I think
- 7:35that's like what you do in your early 20s. You're
- 7:37just like, I don't want to be anywhere near my
- 7:39parents or my family. So I went out to the desert.
- 7:43I hated it. I absolutely hated Arizona at first.
- 7:49I was like, why would anybody live here? It's
- 7:51hot here. There's nothing but sand. There's just
- 7:53a lot of dust. It was just night and day. It
- 7:57took, honestly. almost that entire year to really
- 8:01get comfortable with it. And then it was actually
- 8:04really hard to leave. Just to backtrack a little
- 8:07bit, I went to college at Virginia Commonwealth
- 8:09University, the School of the Arts, and I graduated
- 8:13with a BFA in photography. I think I'm like kind
- 8:16of like maybe jumping ahead. But again, pretty
- 8:19much since I was like younger, I did drawing
- 8:22and painting and all that kind of stuff. And
- 8:25then... I think when I was like in middle school,
- 8:28I thought I was going to be a fashion designer.
- 8:31And then by high school, I got really into photography.
- 8:35And I feel like my dad really encouraged that
- 8:37because that was his own background. He studied
- 8:41photography. I think that was just really encouraged.
- 8:43It was really fun for me. And I started digitally.
- 8:46And then I went back and learned darkroom, I
- 8:50think, in ninth or 10th grade. And then I kind
- 8:54of went away from that for a while just because
- 8:56I think I thought it was like hard. And then
- 9:00and then I ended up actually going to school
- 9:02for photography. And I was, again, kind of going
- 9:05back to that history part. I was literally in
- 9:09between choosing to go to school for anthropology
- 9:11or photography. And obviously those like overlap
- 9:15very well. Or they can. And I chose photography
- 9:19and I was honestly very happy that I did. I spent
- 9:24a lot of time in the darkroom. I like super fell
- 9:27in love with film photography. I would very regularly
- 9:31have 10 hour days in the darkroom. I like just
- 9:36loved it so much. It's also been one of those
- 9:38things that I constantly yearn for is like a
- 9:42darkroom again. That also like fits into my my
- 9:47daily life or like my schedule with like work
- 9:50and all that now. Yeah. There have been so many
- 9:52influences. So also after college, I ended up
- 9:56actually teaching English in Mexico for four
- 9:59months. I went to Guadalajara and I taught. English
- 10:05at the university over there. And I honestly
- 10:07feel like I was very influenced by just like
- 10:10a lot of like the artesanias. I don't know if
- 10:14either of you have have been to Latin America.
- 10:16There's just so much art. It's like ridiculous.
- 10:19It's saturated. It's saturated. All beautiful.
- 10:22Yeah, it's highly detailed, very vibrant. I feel
- 10:25like there's a lot of people that just figure
- 10:28out how to work a craft. So I think that has.
- 10:33been a really big influence on me is just how
- 10:36do I learn how to do something? And that's always
- 10:39been something that I think has been honestly
- 10:41instilled in me since I was little. Kind of like
- 10:44work with what you have or recycling and recycled
- 10:47materials. I think that that's a really big immigrant
- 10:50thing in general. How do you utilize things more
- 10:55than once? Or like, how can you recreate or repurpose
- 10:57something from something else? So I feel like
- 11:01living there and then also being in the desert
- 11:03really informed in my 20s. Even like my color
- 11:08palettes that I used, earthy colors, but also
- 11:12very vibrant colors. And I think even before
- 11:16then, I liked a lot of like children's book illustrators
- 11:19or like authors like Maurice Sendak. Eric Carle.
- 11:23Eric Carle was a great one because I love how
- 11:26much mixed media he does in his art. I feel like
- 11:29I was really informed by a lot of like illustration
- 11:32when I was younger, went into photography. And
- 11:37then honestly, nowadays, I kind of I'm trying
- 11:40to kind of bring back photography. It's been
- 11:42kind of hard for me for some reason, but I really
- 11:44like mixed media art. And again, just kind of
- 11:47training myself how to like do things. Yeah,
- 11:51I don't know. I do a lot of ceramics. I still
- 11:53doodle a lot. I want to try and again, kind of.
- 11:57make different artistic practices like meat.
- 12:01Like I really would love to bring more photography
- 12:04again, maybe into ceramics. I've seen some really
- 12:07crazy ways that people print photography on ceramics.
- 12:10I think I've always really liked art that also
- 12:13uses scientific processes. Great. Yeah. So like
- 12:17darker and photography, anything with chemicals.
- 12:19Yeah. I love printmaking. I remember I did etching.
- 12:24When I was in high school, that's also something
- 12:27I would love to try again. That's fun because
- 12:29that's super chemical processes. You have to
- 12:32use venting hoods or whatnot to do them. I guess
- 12:35I kind of like art that could be a little weird
- 12:37and dangerous, I guess, for you. I don't know.
- 12:41It's not just like I am just drawing on something.
- 12:44That's cool. That's fun. But I love kind of like
- 12:48the surprises I think that you can get in those
- 12:51chemical processes. Art that... Potentially needs
- 12:55an OSHA team if you mess it up. That's been such
- 12:58an incredible journey. How did that then turn
- 13:01into your professional journey? So my professional
- 13:05journey, again, I graduated with a BFA in photography
- 13:08and. Hmm. I've had a lot of jobs since I graduated.
- 13:14I'm 33 now. So it's been a little over 10 years
- 13:18since I graduated college. As far as like my
- 13:21professional journey, I've really done a lot
- 13:25of different types of jobs. I have done everything.
- 13:30From obviously like food industry to like out
- 13:34in Arizona, I worked some really intense jobs,
- 13:37but were also, they were very, very rewarding
- 13:40jobs, but also emotionally draining. I worked
- 13:43at a shelter for unaccompanied minors, which
- 13:46is interesting because that, you know, is coming
- 13:48really into the news again. And I also worked
- 13:52at a rehab treatment center for teens. So I feel
- 13:56like a lot of my earlier professional work that
- 14:00i've done was working a lot with like at -risk
- 14:03youth working with them like through art so i
- 14:08feel like i did a lot of therapeutic arts with
- 14:13just like the young folks that i worked with
- 14:14so for instance with the unaccompanied minors
- 14:17i mean there was a lot of dysregulation because
- 14:20they're like in a place that they don't want
- 14:22to be. And they're also terrified of possibly
- 14:26being deported. It was, it was again, a really,
- 14:29really intense thing, but I was really able to
- 14:31like use art to like, I think kind of just like
- 14:34bridge that gap or just like. helped the students
- 14:37feel a little more comfortable. I used art there
- 14:40a lot, even though I was just kind of like a
- 14:41classroom teacher. Everyone knew that I was like
- 14:44the art teacher at the shelter. And then at the
- 14:48rehab center, it was kind of the same thing.
- 14:51Like there was an actual art teacher there, but
- 14:53all the kids knew I was like. big artist and
- 14:57I would always just like use art to like help
- 15:00them calm down or just like if they're bored
- 15:02because they were bored a lot of the time and
- 15:06like this rehab center was It was kind of like
- 15:09an alternative to like juvie for a lot of the
- 15:12kids. So it was like a mix of they were there
- 15:16for like mental health crises. They were there
- 15:19for like behavioral issues. It could be a mix
- 15:22of both. I was able to just like connect with
- 15:25them like through art. And I think also I've
- 15:30just been able to use art a lot as. kind of even
- 15:34like a means like through, let's say like language
- 15:36barriers or cultural barriers. So when I was
- 15:41in AmeriCorps, I was a neighborhood engagement
- 15:45coordinator with the city of Phoenix. But one
- 15:50of the projects I got to lead was actually a
- 15:52community mural with some of the students. And
- 15:56at that school, it was something crazy like...
- 16:00I think there were something like 40 different
- 16:03languages spoken at that school. Oh, wow. Amazing.
- 16:06Wow. It was wild. Yeah, but for instance, just
- 16:09working with populations I don't really know
- 16:12much about. I don't know about now, but there
- 16:15was a really big Somali population over there.
- 16:18I don't speak the language, but I feel like I've
- 16:22always just been able to utilize art even when
- 16:25people feel really uncomfortable. Yeah. It's
- 16:27kind of like a way to just... bridge that gap,
- 16:30which I think is really special. And then I guess
- 16:33kind of like when I came here to Philly, I've
- 16:37been in Philly since February of 2018. So I'm
- 16:41coming up on seven and a half years. This is
- 16:44like the place I've lived the longest since like
- 16:48where I'm from. I feel like Philly definitely
- 16:51feels a lot like home. A lot of people that are
- 16:54from Philly say that I'm a Philadelphian now
- 16:56because I've been here for a while. You've been
- 16:59here for two Super Bowls, yes? Two winning Super
- 17:02Bowls. Oh, no, no. I actually came right after
- 17:04the, I think, like, a week or two after the last
- 17:08win. We might, which is actually really funny.
- 17:11Yeah, we might be able to do that, though. Because
- 17:12there was, like, a famous photo, I think, that
- 17:14someone took of, like, a cop car on fire, and
- 17:17there was, like, Philly Elmo. Yes! or something
- 17:19okay so i missed that one okay that was a good
- 17:23one i came when it was like so many blizzards
- 17:26it was like terrible like coming from arizona
- 17:29back east and i was like what am i doing here
- 17:31oh this is miserable from desert to snow yeah
- 17:34yeah it was terrible um but yeah no last it was
- 17:38cute it's like i really don't care about sports
- 17:40like but there is something really special about
- 17:43i think I mean, it really is like a working class
- 17:47city, I think, for so many people. So I think
- 17:49to have a big city like this, like win something
- 17:54like that is really exciting for even people
- 17:56that are like not even sports people. We are
- 17:59now a sports podcast. Breaking news. Breaking
- 18:03news. Over back to you guys. So you've been here
- 18:07for seven and a half. Almost seven and a half.
- 18:10It's going to be seven and a half in August.
- 18:13Yeah. So basically, since I've been here, I have
- 18:16kind of continued to do like a lot of the therapeutic
- 18:19arts. Like I worked at Fleischer and exhibitions
- 18:23when I first moved here. It was like finishing
- 18:26out a grant. So I was I was only there for like
- 18:2810 months. But for instance, like I worked with
- 18:31like a group of women who are mostly from Mexico
- 18:35and Guatemala. I mean, I speak Spanish, but like
- 18:38I was able to like. just kind of like work with
- 18:41them on like a public art piece. So ever since
- 18:44I've been here in Philly, I've still kind of
- 18:47been working with like therapeutic arts. To like
- 18:50some degree. So I was working at Fleischer as
- 18:54an exhibitions assistant. And I worked on a lot
- 18:59of like community projects. And then also just
- 19:02like helping with like installation, which I
- 19:04find very fun. I kind of like all parts of exhibitions,
- 19:08like the process. I would love to continue just
- 19:11like doing more of that work. And then I've done
- 19:15like a lot of teaching artist residencies since
- 19:18being here. I've worked with Fleischer basically
- 19:22since 2018, kind of, like, in that role, like,
- 19:25here and there. So I've worked with, like, some
- 19:28of their, like, partner schools in South Philly.
- 19:31I worked at Taller Puerto Rican in Kensington,
- 19:35like, for their after -school program. And then
- 19:39I worked at Moore College of Art most recently,
- 19:43and that was, like, for their... like youth artists
- 19:47workshops or young artists workshops. So that's
- 19:50working with like high schoolers, kind of like
- 19:52pre -college type of stuff. I think I always
- 19:55just like approach my art practice when I'm working
- 19:57with others with just like a big, like a big
- 20:00point of like patience and just like, you don't
- 20:03know where people are coming from. I don't know,
- 20:07bring my own background. I'm also like in recovery
- 20:09that actually informs a lot of my art, like art
- 20:13practice and like the approach that I take. to
- 20:16working, I think just like with others in general.
- 20:20What do you think has been the draw to the education
- 20:24piece? That, that seems to have been more than
- 20:29anything, a through line through your story.
- 20:31For sure. Yeah. I mean, I think at the end of
- 20:33the day, I definitely, I love. working in education
- 20:38preferably not in schools yeah right so like
- 20:44um you know currently like right now i work at
- 20:46pafa and i mean it is a school but it's also
- 20:51a museum i think i i've always really loved museums
- 20:55and i think that kind of actually takes me to
- 20:58like i guess like more like currently uh last
- 21:01summer i got a graduate certificate in museum
- 21:05studies from university of washington i'm trying
- 21:09to figure out like what that means for me in
- 21:12terms of how do i bring like my art practice
- 21:15into like museums or just like my education practice
- 21:20again i feel like there's so many intersections
- 21:23of of things that i like to do personally yeah
- 21:29so with education it's like It definitely is,
- 21:33like, the through line and, like, the connecting
- 21:36piece. Even it's, like, how can we educate others?
- 21:43Not even necessarily, like, I am going to teach,
- 21:46like, an art lesson and this is what you're going
- 21:48to, like, make and then leave with. I would even
- 21:52say it's kind of like storytelling in a way.
- 21:53You're doing it each one of these things. I don't
- 21:56think it's just like, hey, this is how you're
- 21:58doing art. Like you're creating space for each
- 22:01of these people to express themselves and to
- 22:07express themselves through different mediums
- 22:10all the time and through art and share also as
- 22:16an outlet for themselves that. they might not
- 22:20have had before. And you're creating the space
- 22:23for them to consistently be able to do that in
- 22:26each one of these pathways that you've gone on.
- 22:29And so even through their hardest periods, you're
- 22:34giving them an outlet, which is great. Again,
- 22:39I think I love the education aspect. Bring us
- 22:42to your art specifically and what you have created
- 22:47then. in your time being alive yeah sure you
- 22:55know okay you know you started with like with
- 22:58your photography right you changed from digital
- 23:00to to dark room right yeah but now where where
- 23:06has your where has your art taken you oh yes
- 23:10that's like a big thing i would say like i really
- 23:12noticed a pretty big pivot in my artwork back
- 23:15in like 2018 actually so that was the first time
- 23:20that's the first and only time i've ever actually
- 23:22been to el salvador it was a really incredible
- 23:25trip it was also a really intense trip i know
- 23:28i cried a lot at some points also because like
- 23:31you know at that point i had also like i've been
- 23:34out as like queer for like a long time at this
- 23:38point and then i've also been out as like non
- 23:40-binary also I think it was, like, since that
- 23:43year. But just, like, I definitely had, like,
- 23:45a moment of just, like, oh, my God, like, if
- 23:47I had grown up, like, queer, like, in El Salvador,
- 23:50that would have been really, really tough. And,
- 23:54like, again, like, I've met other Salvadoran
- 23:57artists that have, like, moved away from there
- 23:59now, and they've also, like, yeah, there's definitely,
- 24:02like, an underground scene because that exists
- 24:04everywhere around the world. There's always the
- 24:06underground scenes, but it's also just, like,
- 24:08how safe are you? like day to day. Right. So
- 24:12I was really happy to be there, but I definitely
- 24:14feel like I had to hide parts of myself. Several
- 24:17years ago, I worked with impact services and
- 24:20the Kensington corridor project. And it was like
- 24:23a, it was like a grant right before COVID. Uh,
- 24:27it was like a call for artists to, to do like
- 24:29little, like. window paintings or like little
- 24:32murals and storefronts okay to basically just
- 24:35kind of like build up the businesses that have
- 24:37been there for a long time so i ended up applying
- 24:40i ended up being one of like the lead artists
- 24:43i think there was like several of us that were
- 24:45chosen for different storefronts and then it
- 24:47didn't happen for like I think almost like, no,
- 24:51like a year. Like the start date was like December
- 24:54instead of like April or something that year
- 24:56because of COVID. So I ended up actually getting
- 25:00to pair with a botanica that has been there for
- 25:03like, I think over 20 years. Wow. And it's actually
- 25:06owned by a Greek guy. No way. That I think married
- 25:10a Dominican lady. Okay. He's been there for like
- 25:13a long time. So I actually ended up getting to
- 25:16do a mural for that storefront. And it's been
- 25:18really cool because that has gotten zero graffiti
- 25:23since it went up in like 2021. It's still up
- 25:27today. Yeah, it's still up there. So that's like
- 25:29really cool. I had like a lot of fun with that
- 25:31project. I love the aspect of like mural making.
- 25:34I luckily had an opportunity to be part of the
- 25:39Our Market project. And it's like a really multifaceted
- 25:42like art installation, mural, storytelling, like
- 25:47kind of archiving project. Gotcha. Which is really
- 25:51fun for me. So I ended up being paired up with
- 25:54Carlo Rosa, who I mentioned earlier. So I helped
- 25:58kind of more with like the... block painting
- 26:01for his like big mural that is above Casa Mexico,
- 26:05which used to be Connie's Rickrack. And that's
- 26:08kind of a memorial mural. They're in the ninth
- 26:11street market. We're trying to not just call
- 26:12it the Italian market. And that was with Fiera
- 26:15Studio and also with Mural Arts. Valentin, where
- 26:20can people find you both online and in real life?
- 26:24okay so in real life i'm actually getting ready
- 26:28to move to port richmond i'm actually pretty
- 26:30excited about the move it's like a different
- 26:33art scene and i feel like in that area and also
- 26:35there's a lot in kensington going on too so i'm
- 26:37really excited about that um so in person i guess
- 26:40you can stalk and find me somewhere if you look
- 26:44hard enough in port richmond and I have a couple
- 26:49upcoming things. On Friday, June 27th, I am actually
- 26:53teaching a recycled resin ring and magnet class
- 26:57at... The Philly Magic Gardens as part of their
- 27:01Twilight in the Garden series. So I think it's
- 27:04like BYOB. There's like I think a live violinist
- 27:07and then there's a teaching artist, a .k .a.
- 27:10me this time. And then I am vending once again
- 27:15on Sunday, August 31st for this Sunday pop up
- 27:21series that is happening in conjunction with
- 27:24Cloud Nine Clay and Foreign Cafe. I would love
- 27:28to take more commissions from people. This is
- 27:31the place to say it out loud. Yes. And put it
- 27:33out in the universe. 100%. Manifest that. Manifest
- 27:36that. Online, I do have a website. If you literally
- 27:40go to www .littlesanchezstudio .com. So you can
- 27:45find me there on Instagram. Same deal. It's just
- 27:48Little Sanchez Studio. And so we have some rapid
- 27:52fire questions to close us out. Okay. Can you
- 27:55describe the Philly art scene in one word? Honestly,
- 28:01I would say pretty nurturing. Maybe that's two
- 28:04words. I would say nurturing. Cheese steaks with
- 28:09whiz or without? Without. Nice. I like the Cooper
- 28:12sharp on it. If you had to pick one medium to
- 28:15work with for the rest of your life, what would
- 28:17it be? That's so mean. So sorry. That's so mean.
- 28:23Honestly, I think the first one that just popped
- 28:25out to me immediately was Pain Dang. Favorite
- 28:28Philadelphia neighborhood. I love South Philly.
- 28:31Honestly, I feel like there's like multiple little
- 28:33areas in South Philly that I love. Setting the
- 28:36scene. The PMA is on fire, but you have a superpower
- 28:39to save one wing. Which one do you save? I don't
- 28:43know if it's just like the East Asian art. Oh,
- 28:45yeah. Specifically, there was like this really
- 28:49amazing section of just like Chinese pottery
- 28:51and ceramics. And it's like the attention to
- 28:54detail. Stunning. Stunning. I basically wanted
- 28:58to like pass out and throw up because it was
- 29:00like so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you save that
- 29:04wing anyway, because then you can have that tea
- 29:06house forever. Oh, yeah. Oh, that too. Yeah.
- 29:10Yeah. Basically, I feel like that. I forgot.
- 29:12I totally forgot. Because I was thinking of the
- 29:13ceramics and you're running out of the Japanese.
- 29:15Honestly. Yeah. I think just the East Asian art.
- 29:19Perfect. Section. Favorite Philadelphia based
- 29:24artists people are sleeping on. I feel like there's
- 29:27a couple really cool ones. I love Isaac Scott's
- 29:31work. He's also a really good ceramics teacher.
- 29:34I know I mentioned him before, Carlo Rosa. I
- 29:38also love Kekuli Velarde's work. She does like
- 29:42really crazy ceramics and paintings. What is
- 29:46your favorite beverage of the moment? I'm actually
- 29:49having a bubble tea right now. I'm actually having
- 29:51a mung bean one. That's not my favorite flavor,
- 29:54but it's interesting. I feel like also recently
- 29:57I've just been really enjoying like, A really
- 30:00good classic soda, like a good birch beer. You
- 30:06know what I mean? Just like the classic. Throw
- 30:08it back. It's got to have the real sugar. Oh,
- 30:11yeah. It has to have the real cane sugar. Yep.
- 30:12Okay, last question. F, marry, kill. Mondrian,
- 30:18Basquiat, Pollock. F, Pollock. I would marry
- 30:23Basquiat, and I would kill Mondrian. Valentine,
- 30:27thank you so much for your time today. It was
- 30:30great to meet you and hear your story. Thank
- 30:34you so much. What a beautiful conversation about
- 30:49education and art and really being able to pull
- 30:56people through moments of trouble and struggle.
- 31:01That was great. They describe it more as a string
- 31:05of jobs, but really it's building a career through
- 31:08art therapy. And I don't think that we have had
- 31:11anybody on the podcast yet who has approached
- 31:14art from that perspective. On a more humorous
- 31:20note, if you want to call it that, Robert, have
- 31:23you read that headline yet? You know the one?
- 31:25The museum goers accidentally breaking the fragile
- 31:28crystal covered chair? Oh, the Van Gogh chair?
- 31:33We have seen the rail. We have seen the security
- 31:34footage. It's been making the rounds on Instagram
- 31:37and I'm sure TikTok. Oh, yes, definitely. Break
- 31:40it down for those who haven't seen. So these
- 31:42tourists, unnamed so far. We don't have a nationality
- 31:49yet, correct? I swear to God, if these are Americans,
- 31:51I swear to God. In an Italian museum. The Palazzo
- 31:58Maffei. Took it themselves to have a seat on
- 32:03a piece of art, which is a chair. And it clearly
- 32:09states in two languages not to touch the art.
- 32:14To have a funny photo. the wife ostensibly yeah
- 32:19tries to sit first and pose for a picture it's
- 32:23that hover on the toilet yep exactly and then
- 32:27the husband who doesn't have to hover exactly
- 32:31lost his footing actually sat down on the chair
- 32:35breaks the legs the chair has since been repaired
- 32:39and is back on display this incident took place
- 32:43in April in the museum releases security footage,
- 32:47although I don't know that they have caught the
- 32:51culprits. Although it looks the same once the
- 32:55artwork is damaged, it isn't really the same.
- 32:59Correct. We're going to share the reel on the
- 33:03show notes. Let's move on to our weekend picks.
- 33:06Jean Plow's figure slash ground is ongoing at
- 33:10Muse Gallery. John Poblador's Chapel of Color
- 33:13is ongoing at Bridget Meyer Gallery, and his
- 33:16artist reception is this Friday, June 27th, from
- 33:195 to 7 .30. And he's going to be giving his artist
- 33:23talk starting at 6. The Philadelphia Theatre
- 33:27Company's production of Small Ball is ongoing
- 33:30throughout June. Tickets to Ballet X's Summer
- 33:33Series are on sale for July 16th through the
- 33:3720th. Callie. Avellino, an upcoming guest and
- 33:42someone whose artwork we have both come to own,
- 33:45has an exhibition titled Ladies of Leisure ongoing
- 33:49at Framework Studio and Gallery until July 18th.
- 33:54Cecilia Paredes, By My Side or Back of Me is
- 33:58ongoing at the Prince Center through the 19th.
- 34:01Katie Hudnall. The longest distance between two
- 34:05points is ongoing at the Museum for Art and Wood
- 34:08through the 20th. Subscriptions for Philadelphia
- 34:10Theatre Company, Ballet X, Philadelphia Ballet,
- 34:14and Opera Philadelphia are all available for
- 34:17the upcoming season. And as always, Philly has
- 34:21heart. I don't know who the first one is. Mondrian.
- 34:40Mondrian's the... Here. Oh, no, I got it. The
- 34:42lines. The cross. If I say the R, I'll probably
- 34:45be like, ew. Killed.