Latest / Notable Nostalgia / 99. Touched by an Angel: Rock 'n' Roll Dad
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- 0:01Two, three, four, God's Daddy. So you be here, but
- 0:16see you line, old baby. I'm Ali, I'm Andy, I'm Jeff,
- 0:27and I'm Ria. And this is notable nostalgia. It's so nice to
- 0:42see all these nostalgial nerds gather together, even if it's just for a short
- 0:45time. We're truly blessed to have Ali and Jeff here today. Today we're
- 0:48going to discuss the TV show that ran for nine seasons on CBS, Touched
- 0:52by an Angel. So before I did a little bit of research. I've
- 0:57never watched the show ever. So the little bit of research I did,
- 1:00it's nothing too great. So I want to hear everybody's background first on this
- 1:03show. Jeff, have you did you ever watch this growing up? Yes?
- 1:07I did, Thanks Sandy, Yes, yes, I did watch it
- 1:11growing up with my grandma Lolo. I couldn't say her name. It was
- 1:15Leah now, god, damn it was it. Who knows? I called
- 1:19her grandma love looks. I obviously can't remember anyone's name, And I mentioned
- 1:23her years ago on the podcast with the movie that movie, Yeah, that
- 1:26that traumatized me Fire in the Sky because she thought it was gonna be a
- 1:30Jesus y movie. But then she like doubled down. So Fire in the
- 1:34Sky is an alien abduction movie, super fucking terrifying. Don't watch it.
- 1:38It was bad, but yeah she doubled down, and that like really traumatized
- 1:44me as a child. But yeah, she was all about like touched by
- 1:47an angel, stairway to Heaven, all of those, and then the you
- 1:51know game shows to match with that. Sure, so no, we yeah
- 1:53we watched this and and then like ate her. You know, Grandma made
- 2:00food and then I would take a crap on her. She had the uh
- 2:04take a crap on her? No, no, no, because older people
- 2:07of a particular age have toilet seeds that are like incredibly soft. Yeah.
- 2:13Yeah, so she had like kind of a quilted like soft toilet seats.
- 2:16So I know it was gross and weird. But anyway, so yeah,
- 2:21I go back. I go back with this show so really quick about toilet
- 2:23seats. So I'm like super cheap, right, and a few years ago
- 2:25we needed toilet seats. I was like, you know what, I'm going
- 2:29to buy the most extensive toilet seat there is. I didn't know they made
- 2:32different sizes. So I brought it home and it was way too long for
- 2:36the toilet, Oh my god. Yeah, and then speak really quick sidebar,
- 2:42how did I talk you about this that I found somebody in my life
- 2:46that they can remain anonymous? Marissa, she sits backwards on the toilet seat.
- 2:52I've seen that in a cartoon before. She does that to proper phone
- 2:55real lot. Yeah, So I was to try it and I started to
- 3:00and I was like, I'm gonna poop all of the floor, So I'm
- 3:02not doing that. Touched my an angel. Yeah, allie, what about
- 3:07you? Did you ever watched this growing up? No? No, Ria
- 3:12did. And Ria made me watch one episode I think last year or the
- 3:17year before, and that's that's all I've ever watched of it. And was
- 3:23Ria like, she's all about this show, right, Like, I mean,
- 3:29it's not I don't know, like it's not like she I'm not.
- 3:32I don't know how to speak for her on the circumstance, but I don't
- 3:35think like she's nostalgic for it. Yeah, you know, it was just
- 3:39like one that she was allowed to watch. Gotcha. Oh yeah, so
- 3:45so do any of you know the Like I know we're talking more about it,
- 3:49but like the story of this show because it was very confusing. I
- 3:54was going back, Yeah, you don't understand the context of like what's happening.
- 3:59It's very confusing. Yeah, And I decided to watch it, so
- 4:02I didn't know anything. I didn't do any research about it before. I'm
- 4:04like, I'm just going in. So I was super confused watching I'm sure
- 4:09I want Yeah, when I was a kid, I was like coloring and
- 4:12stuff, while like, I'm sure I was busy and not under a stupid
- 4:15little kid. So I don't. I don't know. And I love Tessa
- 4:19is the angel's name, older lady, Yes, Like she just gives the
- 4:25vibe of like I'm gonna comfort you and I'm gona take care of you.
- 4:28And I was like, I want that to be my Angel of death.
- 4:30Yeah, she's not technically an angel of death. I don't think. Oh
- 4:34she's not. So it's not all the guy is Okay, So they have
- 4:39different different tasks that they do. Yeah, gotcha. Oh damn. I
- 4:45want to be the Angel of death. Then I want to be the angel
- 4:46like happy. It's it's a dumb concept. Yeah. Well. This show
- 4:53premiered in nineteen ninety four and it ran for four seasons, ending in two
- 4:56thousand and three. But the crazy thing is, actually this was canceled season
- 5:00one, but so many people wrote into CBS like Okay, let's try to
- 5:02let's try to keep it going, and it went on for another eight years.
- 5:04So yeah. Uh. They were nominated for a few Emmys for Best
- 5:09Actors, Supporting Actors and Main Actors. Doesn't look like they won any,
- 5:13but they did win a few NAACP Awards for Best Guest Actors with Lewis Gossip
- 5:17Junior and Rosa Parks Crazy Rosa Parks, I'd assume. So yeah, yeah,
- 5:24I saw the picture and she was old enough to be the Rosa Parks
- 5:27that we all know. You know. That's so that's as yeah for sure.
- 5:30Yeah hmm oh and then amongst the oh, and then Della Reese also
- 5:36won Best Actress, So I don't know how I'm with you. Yeah,
- 5:45it was like this genre of like Doctor Quinn, Medicine Woman, kind of
- 5:47like you know, kind of like pre Hallmark were like people that were like
- 5:55that could act ish. Do you know if it was like for like in
- 5:58a drama series Andy, do you know, like the category or like anything
- 6:01about like who they're up against for the Emmys. Most of it was drama,
- 6:06but I don't know, I don't know for if the NAACP does it
- 6:10like that, I have no idea. Oh well, an Emmy is completely
- 6:13separate from that. So well, that's what I'm saying. The Emmys,
- 6:15they didn't win anything, only they were nominated. They were nominated, correct,
- 6:19It was all for drama for either Supporting or Best Actors. Okay,
- 6:24for that anyways. Cool, Well, yeah, let's just jump in real
- 6:30quick. Yeah, Like, I don't it's not surprising that this is like
- 6:34a CBS series, you know what I'm saying. Like CBS traditionally has like
- 6:42more series that are dedicated to an older demographic. Oh sure, and and
- 6:50tend to just be like the most cookie cutter humor, you know, just
- 6:58like really really basic writing. That's and I think the only CBS series that
- 7:04I was ever like really enjoyed was Everybody Loves Raymond. And even then,
- 7:11Raymond is like, it's not it doesn't like do anything that's like exciting,
- 7:17like like a Fraser, like a seinfeld Er, you know, like it's
- 7:21just kind of still boring and it's like and it's in its topics and stuff,
- 7:28and so CBS to me, is just like a really low level intellect
- 7:34TV viewing. Yeah, while watching this, I'll go into a few parts
- 7:39where I kind of in front of the writers. But uh yeah, while
- 7:41watching this, I kind of felt like they they had people that didn't know
- 7:46the subject matter right about stuff obvious, you know what I mean, Right,
- 7:50Yeah, we don't know what rock and roll is. Put leather jacket
- 7:54on them, you know, and that, Yeah, that's rock and roll,
- 7:56you know, things like that. It's interesting. Uh, this is
- 8:01a fun episode to choose, I think, because you know, I've seen
- 8:03the only other episode I've seen. It was just like, okay, okay,
- 8:09so we got so with the Emmy's, they were nominally nominated for Lead
- 8:13Actress and then Supporting Actress in a Drama Series. And some of the other
- 8:18shows you know they were up against were X Files with Gillian Anderson she won
- 8:22that year, Chicago Hope Er two people were nominated there, and then for
- 8:30the other one supporting the same thing in r and YPD Blue three people for
- 8:35er on My word, that's just wild. Yeah, that's that's that's intense.
- 8:43That's wild though. That like this series is like considered on the level
- 8:46of the ones that you just listed. Yeah, yeah, I wonder if
- 8:50they have a certain number they have to hit and they go I try that
- 8:54to touch by an angel one. You know. I don't know how any
- 8:56of that stuff works, but it sounds like if they were canceled then there
- 8:58was like a like a whip or like a backlash that the people that vote
- 9:03are pretty colty. Who votes for Emmy? Is that like viewers? I'm
- 9:09pretty sure it's like a just people who work, like like the Oscars have
- 9:13like a committee kind of thing. I'm pretty sure it's the same thing.
- 9:16Gotcha. I didn't know that Emmys and the Oscars were different until Oh I
- 9:22knew they were different, but I thought they were both like movies or something
- 9:24until we started this podcast, which is crazy. I like the way that
- 9:28Emmys look better. Yeah, Emmy has the wings, right, the wings
- 9:33and then that globe or whatever. I just think it looks more, you
- 9:37know, prestige. Yeah, there we go. So we start the show
- 9:41in a cemetery with an older black lady and a younger white lady. Based
- 9:43on the cover of the art of the show, I think they are the
- 9:46Angels. They are walking around the cemetery and have a good conversation about loss
- 9:50and grieving. She did make some great points about the grieving process and the
- 9:56two acting they're fine, Like, I don't think it's an anything wrong with
- 10:00him, you know, it's fine as of right now. And then I
- 10:03put, oh, no, is this gonna be another Seventh Heaven to where
- 10:05I thought it was gonna be really really bad, But it was actually pretty
- 10:07good overall. So then we hear some rock and roll music and we see
- 10:11a dude dressed like a Wish version of bon Jovi singing a song and the
- 10:16very first line is God is dead. God is Dead. And I loved
- 10:28it so much because I was I couldn't be anymore against what this show's about.
- 10:33It caught me off guard. I was laughing so hard. I did
- 10:37too. I even put lol in my notes. And then ha ha ha
- 10:39at the end of the notes. And now we see another man dancing.
- 10:43Look at those moves, and I wonder if these moves in the nineties were
- 10:46considered super badass, because now they look very tame, just like that quote
- 10:50unquote rock and roll. This other guy is apparently death and it is one
- 10:56of the rock stars biggest fans. Seems a little odd the older lady does
- 11:01not like this music, and we end the intro with Death being sad because
- 11:05he thinks he's gonna have to kill someone here, I guess. But right
- 11:07now, in twenty twenty four, there's about one hundred and twenty seven people
- 11:13that die every single minute, which means there has to be multiple deaths out
- 11:16there. This guy has been here already for like a minute, which means
- 11:20if they if they can kill one person a minute, that has to be
- 11:24over one hundred and twenty seven grim reapers out there. And that does sound
- 11:28like a badass idea for a comic book. So patent pending, patent pending,
- 11:31anybody listening, but we possibly get the worst intro song of all time.
- 11:35The voice is horrible. Instead of walking with me, I'd rather have
- 11:39you talk with me. Just don't sing any longer. Please? Can I
- 11:43get an amen? He I will arrive and I will please you Sian sign.
- 12:00Yeah. Based on that, like how they're portraying this like rock star
- 12:05guy, I'm from on like a cheesy level. I am interested in this
- 12:11moment, in this moment, yeah, I thought the rock star is gonna
- 12:13die and like that's I was like, oh that's why death's here. Yeah,
- 12:16I like he's like someone Yeah, for sure. I did think she
- 12:22was making some good points though about the whole grieving process when she's like the
- 12:26people it's something that you have to get over and not hold on to.
- 12:28But people hold onto the grief process because it feels like they're letting go of
- 12:31a love. When I was like, holy shit, that's pretty fucking heavy,
- 12:35though, I was like, yeah's all right, Yeah, I get
- 12:37what they have to do there, you know, like for the audience,
- 12:39But like, why do these angels like need to talk about this like they're
- 12:43they're holy beans, like they they know this subject matter? Like why this
- 12:48is what they have conversations about, and you know, like it's just yeah,
- 12:54true time at the same rate we are. Do they not know the
- 12:58future? If so, they don't seem very majestic, you know, being
- 13:01it doesn't seem to me like there they've been angels from from the beginning,
- 13:07That's what I'm saying. I don't unders like the younger one, who's not
- 13:09super young, you know, just be honest, So she doesn't seem like
- 13:13she's as as old of an angel as the older one, Like she she's
- 13:18still kind of learning. It's so weird. Yeah, So it's like she
- 13:22knew angel like and training, and it's not clear like in this in this
- 13:31like intro and I and I forgot like how when I watched the first episode,
- 13:35like what like can people see them? Are they invisible? Are you
- 13:39know? So it's it's a little vague in this moment if you're like still
- 13:43new or brand new to this. Yeah, I about halfway through. That's
- 13:48kind of when I was realizing some stuff. But when I first saw the
- 13:50other guy dancing Andrew his name is gonna be revealed later, I was like,
- 13:54Oh, maybe he's a producer, maybe he's gonna die. I didn't
- 13:56know that that he's also an angel and they've got to be invisible because how
- 14:00the camera was set up. Yeah, get these brads out of here.
- 14:07But yeah, no, I'm kind of excited as of right now. My
- 14:11notes, I'm like, I think it's gonna be like another Seventh Heavens where
- 14:13I thought it was gonna be super bad. But I'm having a lot of
- 14:15fun. So we are back now. We see a mansion on a blustery
- 14:18day and a table filled with pictures of Sally Fields. When she played the
- 14:22mom in Missus doubtfire because every picture looks just like her. Whoa, we
- 14:28have that Andrew death God watching a couple in bed. Oh, the woman
- 14:31in bed seems to be Miss America, and she says he And then she
- 14:35says, the guy in bed is the sexist man alive. So I wonder
- 14:37if they met on the modeling circuit. Just when the scene is getting boring,
- 14:43he hits us with this classic the man in bed. He wants to
- 14:46stay in bed all day, and the lady says, what about the kids.
- 14:50And he says, okay, get this, the kids can stay in
- 14:54bed too, and she laughs and laughs and laughs. On Saturdays, we
- 15:01should just stay in bed all day. Oh yeah, what about the kids.
- 15:05The kids can stay in bed all day too. We'll call him on
- 15:07the phone. But anyway, but anywhere the man. Oh, but anyway.
- 15:13The man gets out of bed and we discover he sleeps in full jeans,
- 15:16like tight blue ass jeans, which is fucking crazy to me. The
- 15:20woman demands he gets back in bed so they can play. I can only
- 15:24assume the grim Reaper, the grim Reaper is still in there, and why
- 15:28doesn't God give him an itinerary or at least tell him who he's going to
- 15:31be killing. This is not an efficient way to run a business. The
- 15:37doorbell rings, and a kid with a mola answers, God. I hope
- 15:39the kid is the one that needs to go. Oh God. The older
- 15:43lady from the beginning is at the door. Her and the little kid have
- 15:46a cue back and forth, and she tells him she is his new nanny.
- 15:50I am your new nanny. I didn't have an old nanny. Well
- 15:54you got a new one. Now let me talk to your mother. I'm
- 15:58sorry if you're making a delivery to this. Her back off, which made
- 16:02me laugh out loud. Well, I wasn't like a crazy laugh with like
- 16:04a chuckle. How was it that crazy kid? This is what I said.
- 16:10Man, This lady seems really uptight and angry. After that, little
- 16:12boy shuts the door. Her friend is lightly laughing and the older lady threatens
- 16:15her. But I believe they are both angels question Mark. But wait,
- 16:19humans can see them? Are these two not angels? Why could they see
- 16:23the groom reaper? Hmm, I don't know what's happening as of right now.
- 16:27Okay, we were back in the bedroom where they were making out,
- 16:30and although we don't see the groom reaper. He is probably watching them while
- 16:33choking himself. There's a knock on the door and it's their teenage daughter.
- 16:38Their A teenage daughter asks her mom if she can see love this band name
- 16:44Zombie Charlie and the Erasables. I was like, all right, that's cool
- 16:47name. And then after that they want to stay at her friend's brother's dorm
- 16:51and the mom says, no way, Jose And as they are arguing,
- 16:53the dad walks back in, now wearing a small robe covering his top half,
- 16:57but he still has on the jeans. The parents have a small argument
- 17:02about the lyrics, which you're has followed. Am I hearing this? You
- 17:06hate my music? Are you telling me you hate my music? I've always
- 17:10loved your music. It's just your lyrics lately, what about them? God
- 17:15is dead, Hope has died. You said you loved me, but you
- 17:19lied. So it's nineties, it's despair, it's it's it's a rebellion song,
- 17:30you know, gives kids permission not to listen to their parents. What
- 17:33Yeah, but John, we want our kids to listen to their parents.
- 17:37Heavy It's just a song. Yeah, but songs get stuck in your head,
- 17:41John, and I don't want God is dead, Hope has died stuck
- 17:44in our kids' heads. Uh huh, okay, fine, well I'm doing
- 17:48what I can. You think you can do better? Be my guest.
- 17:52All right, you will good. Maybe it's time you started making some of
- 17:56the money around here. You're sure good at spending us. Yeah, like
- 18:00the way I spent five bucks a week and kept us eating so you could
- 18:02spend twenty on guitar strings. So nowadays guitar strings are about eight bucks a
- 18:07pack. So let's say you bought a three pack for twenty bucks in the
- 18:10nineties, that same pack would have cost about five to seven bucks. So
- 18:12that means this motherfucker is going through nine strings, nine packs of strings a
- 18:18week. Something's not adding up here. I don't think he knows how to
- 18:21play. The little boy enters the bedroom now and it turns out the mom
- 18:25did get a nanny but didn't tell anybody, and they are all at the
- 18:29table eating breakfast. The guy in the bed leaves for a concert, and
- 18:33in the back of a limo he calls his wife speeper and says, cfg
- 18:37the driver that is possibly take out six to pitch my wife. The message
- 18:42is c f G John, Yeah, thanks, excuse me? Yeah,
- 18:55what does CFG you mean? Oh, it's the perfect chord progression in a
- 18:59classic rock too. It's our private shorthand for I love you. You can
- 19:03never go wrong saying that. I mean, it's a fine, it's fine,
- 19:07but that just means every rock song would use the same chord progression,
- 19:11the perfect like nobody knew. Yeah, And he said it like a secret,
- 19:15like okay, yeah, But then it turns out it's a code for
- 19:19his wife to say that he loves her. The next scene is the mom
- 19:22talking on her cell phone while driving, and we get a long ass shot
- 19:26close up of her face. She is taking it, she's making multiple calls,
- 19:30there's no cuts. It's on her face for like a minute or two,
- 19:33and then she starts singing Okay. The scene ends. We are now
- 19:37in the TV studio and the dad is waiting for his wife but gets called
- 19:41to do the interview. The one minute TV segment was all about how much
- 19:44he loved his wife. Glad they had that scene because I almost forgot he
- 19:48loved her. I mean, with all the loving bed scenes and the CFG.
- 19:52Cody told us about one minute before this interview. Okay, we get
- 19:55it. He loves her. Oh no, she died asked she's chum.
- 20:06Damn. I wish that little kid with the mullet bit the bullet dam I
- 20:11love that one. But when John finds out his wife died, I can
- 20:15only imagine that's the same face the very first cave man made when they discovered
- 20:18fire er. Okay, we've done a lot, so we're at the point
- 20:22where this woman's dead. Now, yeah, I'm about to do the first
- 20:25Okay, wow er fire hot wife dead er sad because he looks like a
- 20:33caveman y sexiest man alive right now the commercial break. I love that you
- 20:38did the you leaned your body into so good. Yeah, there's so much
- 20:52going on in this, Like, Okay, I'll just pull my notes really
- 20:59quick. I find it, like yeah, so first, I'm like,
- 21:03so the angel Death is just a voyeur like weird sexiest man alive question mark.
- 21:11Okay, band named Zombie Charlie and the Erasables. And then it sounds
- 21:18like the writers have never heard of rock music, but like zombies are kind
- 21:22of scary a little yeah, and that sounds like a punk band or like
- 21:26like even like a rockabilly band. Yeah, sure, and then I just
- 21:30find it so hard to believe, like this guy is a rock star who
- 21:33sings God is Dead, but like their family is like strict and wholesome.
- 21:37I'm just like what I think, Like we get like they kind of like
- 21:44justified a little later in this episode, but I'm just like, I'm not
- 21:48buying this ship. There's too many contradictions right now. Yeah, this this
- 21:52whole episode just kind of filled with them. It's crazy. Also, there's
- 21:57this scene where so, like the Scottish angel is is like the limo driver,
- 22:07right, and but then like is like in the house like working,
- 22:11you know, and she like makes coffee and she she says, I love
- 22:17coffee, Like no one has had coffee before, Like she's the only person
- 22:22to have ever had coffee and is introducing them to this substance. I made
- 22:26some coffee. I hope you don't mind. I love coffee. It's just
- 22:30so it's just funny to me. I don't know. So anyways, well,
- 22:34then how long did she have to work with the family, So the
- 22:37whole time she knew that there's you know what I mean, Like, so
- 22:41if these are the angels and the family, knows them well enough to like
- 22:45invite to the house, have a full conversation not feel awkward. Let's say
- 22:48they worked for two or three weeks, so what the what the fuck are
- 22:51they doing there for two or three weeks before somebody was like that's crazy.
- 22:55Why this whole scene feels like less than twenty four hours? Y, Yeah,
- 23:00I don't understand, like unless they're doing like some kind of like witchcraft
- 23:03where they like make it because like why would they hire a nanny but they
- 23:07didn't do any reference checks on her or anything, and like does the driver,
- 23:11like the limo driver have a license? It says Angel has a license,
- 23:15Like like, I don't mean, let's start doing the like their wizardry
- 23:18on it. That's the only thing I can imagine. And then the opening
- 23:22scene when they're like in bed and stuff like I don't know about you,
- 23:25but like I am not that alert and when I wake up in the morning,
- 23:29you have to go bathroom. But here's the thing that I was thinking
- 23:30about. So back in the nineties when this came out, when there was
- 23:34like regular cable or whatever, your program started at you know, seven pm,
- 23:38but the program before you know ended pretty much at seven pm. And
- 23:41you had to use the restroom, grab a snack. Grabbed it. If
- 23:45you missed the first five minutes of this episode, they give so much info
- 23:48away. Fucked. Yeah, that's what I was thinking, Like, we're
- 23:52so lucky to live in like the streaming era where we can just like,
- 23:56oh, I wasn't pintertin, I'll rewind this. Yeah, that's what I
- 23:59was thinking about that. And then I did, like the when the quote
- 24:03sexiest man a life kind of thing, when he did make reference to like
- 24:07it's the nyeties or whatever he said about like the genre of Yeah, I
- 24:11was like, that's kind of self aware of him, I suppose, but
- 24:15yeah, I don't know. It was a lot to handle. And then
- 24:18the daughter that another thing that set me into orbit. Don't be walking in
- 24:22your parents room in the morning when they're clearly there's noises going on. Yeah,
- 24:27like she seemed to based on her reaction. She just seemed very aware
- 24:32that they could be fucking yeah you know, and luckily they were fucking like
- 24:36underneath the blankets. But most people, like I get really hot, I
- 24:37can't do that. Yeah. But and then this this girl is in college
- 24:41right, oh is she said, I wasn't really sure howl. Yeah,
- 24:47maybe not. Maybe maybe she's in high school, because like later there she's
- 24:51like the we're meeting college. Oh yeah, okay, yeah. I was
- 24:53like a little confused there in that moment. I was like, wait,
- 24:56is she in college? Like she should be old enough to do whatever the
- 24:59fuck she wants. But yeah, maybe she is in high school. But
- 25:02it still is like on that line of just like this guy, like I'd
- 25:07imagine like this mom character has no support when like the father is singing like
- 25:12lyrics like God is dead, like what That's just like the ultimate out for
- 25:17any kid to act out in any possible way, you know, like well
- 25:21dad gets to do this and that. You know, like what, why
- 25:22are we holding these these standards in this household? It's so silly? Yeah
- 25:27yeah, yeah, no, this will uh yeah no, I uh there's
- 25:32a lot of info going on. I did. I do like the older
- 25:34angel, I you know, I do like her as a character. Is
- 25:40it tech could be I don't know who should look at it. I think
- 25:44it is she. I thought she was the same person who's sang Fox and
- 25:48the Hound like that she was the owl, but I googled it. So
- 25:52this is a kind of pointless fact because it's not her. But that's the
- 25:56second time I mentioned Fox in the Hound recently because I have a This is
- 26:00a boring story, as I prepare yourself. But I had this mail carrier
- 26:03for like five years and I thought his name was John or Jonathan, that's
- 26:07what I've been calling him, and found out about a week ago his name
- 26:10is Todd. And I was like, there's no way your name is Todd.
- 26:15So I had him get out of his ID and show me, and
- 26:15it's Todd. That's funny, you like got caught, and you just kept
- 26:19pushing into the well. I thought he was fucking with me. He said,
- 26:23why has he not corrected me in five years? Because I feel like
- 26:26I should know my letter carrier person's name, and so then now I'm connecting
- 26:32it to Fox and the Hound because he's not going to be Copper, so
- 26:33he'll be Todd. No, I got this. I don't correct anybody with
- 26:37I get people called They called me Randy so much like I don't get a
- 26:42pick. I never picked my name. I could give two fucks less about
- 26:45it, Like call me whatever. It doesn't affect me in anyway. I've
- 26:48been calling him Jonathan and Johnny and Johnny Boy, and like every time he
- 26:52walks by and like picks up the mail, I'm always like heye liked you,
- 26:56like the little air gun thing, And he's never said anything like finally
- 27:00snapped. He's like, my name's fucking Todd. If there's anything like listeners
- 27:04like you could learn learn from trans people. You can just change your name
- 27:12whenever you want. You don't have to be like fucking Tyler. You know,
- 27:17like, yeah, you can have whatever name you want, like Tyler.
- 27:22Yeah, you know, like you can pick whatever name you want and
- 27:26you don't have to be trans to do it. Just just within reason though,
- 27:30Could I be like Rex, Yeah, you can be any name.
- 27:33Yeah, I'm doing I'm so done with being in the box of Jeff remember
- 27:38ten years ago? Yeah, Jeff sting. I just want to I feel
- 27:45like you should. My name is what's helped me back. You should legally
- 27:48change your name to Jeff jaff Yeah. Yeah, so that'd be amazing.
- 27:56It would be Jeff listen to get back on track. I was I was
- 28:03not paying attention as well. How did she die? Car? A car
- 28:07accident? Okay, thank you. I thought it was gonna be the car
- 28:10behind scratch. I thought she was what her no scratches, Her body is
- 28:15an impacted, like, is not damaged at all? Oh yeah yeah with
- 28:18that when yeah, they pulled the curtain and she's just normal. Yeah for
- 28:22sure, hundred It must have just been unless maybe the capitated head. They're
- 28:32like, I hope he doesn't notice. But uh so they make that scene
- 28:36with the with the car behind her while she's driving. I thought like she
- 28:38was gonna get kidnapped or I thought they were going to run her off the
- 28:41road. Later on, the guy goes, hey, it's kind of a
- 28:42sketchy road here, to be careful, okay, even and she kept looking
- 28:45back the mirror and stuff. We come back from commercial break and John has
- 28:49to identify the body. The coroner says, sorry, we have to meet
- 28:52this way, and John asked where he's from. He says New Jersey,
- 28:56and John says good crowds there, something along those lines. Sorry to have
- 29:00to meet you under these circumstances, mister Damas, but there were no personal
- 29:04effects recovered too. I'm sorry to have to put you through this. Were
- 29:08you from New Jersey? It's a beautiful state. I got great audiance,
- 29:12is there? They showed you on the body, and this part actually made
- 29:15me tear up a little bit. But as he was talking to Evy or
- 29:19Heavy, all I could think was, er, wake up, Krung No,
- 29:25won't be alone. Yeah. At the funeral, death is still hanging
- 29:30around for some reason. What a perv. He's like, I can't even
- 29:33get hard until I see the body under the ground. I love that.
- 29:41We were back at the house and the mullet kid is sitting on a pool
- 29:45table when the younger lady maybe Angel comes up and they have a conversation about
- 29:49losing his mom and maybe to write a letter to Heaven using his heart.
- 29:53The little boy says, that's the dumbest thing I ever heard, and the
- 29:56lady fucking snaps. She goes, fine, figure the shit on your own.
- 30:00I'm gonna be your new mommy. And when I am, we're shipping
- 30:02near ass to boarding school. John the dad in bed earlier, which I
- 30:06figured his name out now, so it's not just the guy anymore. But
- 30:08John wants to get back to the studio, but his producer advises him against
- 30:11it, but they go anyway. John is only writing the same lyrics over
- 30:15and over again. God is dead, Hope has died it just in different
- 30:19variations, and now he's also pounding some bruce keys. We're back at the
- 30:25house. The teenage daughter is going through her mom's things and puts on a
- 30:27necklace. She starts sobbing while looking at a picture of her mom. John
- 30:32comes home, drunks, rips the necklace off his daughter, and the scene
- 30:34escalates really quick, with both of them blaming the other for their moms or
- 30:38for the mom's early demise. She runs off, and when she does,
- 30:42he yells, get out of here and never come back in this room.
- 30:45The writers at this moment were probably like, hey, guys, let's use
- 30:48this necklace as a metaphor for his life. John falls to his knees and
- 30:52says, I need help. I can't pick up the pieces, referring to
- 30:56the shattered necklace if but that's only to the untrained eye. If you really
- 31:00think about it, it could also mean his life. Yeah. So you
- 31:03know, after they wrote that, the writers were like, all right,
- 31:06to go home. Yeah, They're like, we fucking did that, and
- 31:08we get another commercial break. Okay, So that writing choice just a weird
- 31:18choice to be like, you're meeting the doctors about to like show you your
- 31:21wife's dead body, and you're like, where are you from? Yeah?
- 31:25Right, and then like I I what I'm what I'm. What I think
- 31:29they're conveying is like he's uncomfortable and he doesn't you know. But it's just
- 31:33such a strange interaction and choice. Yeah, it would have made more sense
- 31:38if he didn't say anything. And then like we get the idea that,
- 31:41okay, he's a rock star, so he should be really good with people,
- 31:45but like, yeah, no, I thought the same thing in any
- 31:48capacity either, you know, okay, and then did let me look at
- 31:55my notes real quick? Oh my god? Okay, did you kind of
- 31:57like glance over the scene where the old like Tessa, the older angel is
- 32:04talking to the young boy or did you mention it? Uh? I think
- 32:07that's what are you talking about. Later on he's like sitting on the pool
- 32:10he's like sitting on the pool table. Oh yeah, but I thought that
- 32:14was the younger slightly younger. Yeah, the angel was talking. Oh you're
- 32:17right, you're right, right, you're right. Did you kind of glance
- 32:20over that scene? Just I made a joke that she said she's going to
- 32:23be his new mommy. Yeah he does. When she says you can write
- 32:27a letter to heaven m hm, and he goes, can't say a letter
- 32:31to heaven? Sure you can. You don't even need paper. You could
- 32:37write it with your hearts, the dumbest. Oh my god, that was
- 32:45so funny. It was yeah, yeah, I wish break Yeah yeah.
- 32:52Shrink always said that to me, like not about God, uh like insane,
- 32:57but about like if you you are pissed off as somebody, write,
- 33:00write a letter like fuck you won't whatever. That doesn't do enough for me.
- 33:06So that's not because I just want to mail it now, Like,
- 33:08so that doesn't work. They're gonna have to go to the post side.
- 33:10I have to get stamps. It's a whole big deal. It was a
- 33:13sweet scene. Like if I was like a Jesus person, then I'd be
- 33:15like, oh, this is like that's sweet. You know. Yeah.
- 33:17When I was about twenty twenty one, I started kind of writing in a
- 33:22journal and just doing that alone makes you feel so much better. I think
- 33:24it's just because you let something out, you know. And so yeah,
- 33:28I'm pro writing shit down, you know, if you're mad at someone or
- 33:30just in general, because I think it's a good way to get stuff out.
- 33:32So no, I thought it was great saying, and they do tap
- 33:35like do I hear some of the stuff that they're saying? And I'm like,
- 33:37okay, like I've heard that before, Like later on when the when
- 33:42the guy is saying like or the sexiest man Livery is saying, uh,
- 33:46talking about how anger is more it's easier to be angry than sad, or
- 33:51he won't stop crying or whenever. I'm like, I totally get that.
- 33:53Yeah, like whenever I have like back pain or whatever, I'm like,
- 33:55it's so much easier to lean into being pissed off then feel defeated or to
- 34:01cry or feel quote weak. So I was like they really touched on.
- 34:06No, they did say is I think that first? See when she was
- 34:07talking about like how people have to work through the grievance because after my mom
- 34:12died, I would like hold on to so much of her shit, like
- 34:15because I'm like one of my earliest actually my main memory of my mom is
- 34:17her reading and eating sunflower seeds. So for like ten years after she passed
- 34:22away, I kept all her books. I think it's because like that's away.
- 34:25But then I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Like
- 34:28this? You know, I'm not gonna it doesn't the book isn't gonna make
- 34:31me. I don't know how to explain it, but I was like,
- 34:34oh, I can get rid of these books. I can still remember my
- 34:36mom. So when she said that grievance thing, I was like, oh,
- 34:37fuck, I wish I would have watched this. Maybe, you know,
- 34:40like two years after you passed, I could have stopped lugging all that
- 34:43shit around. But yeah, no, I thought they said a few really
- 34:45good points during this episode overall. And then I'm not luckily I've not been
- 34:49in a medical examiner's thingy before, but like the guy just sees his his
- 34:53wife that just passed away and has to identify her because she doesn't have any
- 34:57wallet on her or whatever. He reveals the wife and then he's like,
- 35:00okay, you can go now, Like whoa, Like that's that just seemed
- 35:05like a little bit of broad Yeah, I was like, oh no,
- 35:07no, well, yeah, I guess because what if that wasn't her husband.
- 35:12Yeah, he didn't really see an identification either. Just some creep comes
- 35:15in and this might be tasteless, but if I ever passed away without my
- 35:20ide on me, I'm nominating you to be the identifier. Okay, I
- 35:23like it. Okay, anyway, that scene where the dad and the daughter
- 35:36are arguing, Yeah, neither of these people can act. Yeah, it's
- 35:42bad, and I have a theory as like the why they've been chosen for
- 35:45this late you know, but like, uh, really terrible acting overall.
- 35:53Also, I'm just like getting Jack Frost energy from this episode. I don't
- 35:58know if you all are getting that too, but JF musician disappointing family,
- 36:06Like maybe he just needs to become a snowman, you know. Yeah.
- 36:10I was like, so this is like kind of like an anthology kind of
- 36:15show, Like it has the same like angels for most episodes, I'm assuming,
- 36:21but the but there's no other characters that return. So this movie or
- 36:25show is called touched by an Angel. It's not the best. So people
- 36:29that are just up for a role a week for one spot, like they're
- 36:32not going to be top tier actors, no, for sure. Like it's
- 36:36like it's very like on the level of like Walker Texas Ranger. Yeah,
- 36:39you know, which, we need to do an episode. I've never seen
- 36:42a whole episodes. Definitely have to. I can't believe I haven't. That's
- 36:44done. Yeah, for sure, you know, I'm gonna do a quick
- 36:46sidebar stegment. It's not really segment, but if we did a retro reboot,
- 36:50I just cast the three of us as the angels. Oh yeah,
- 36:53I think we kill it. Like I would be probably the Angel of Death.
- 37:00You'd be the the older one, the slightly slightly younger one, and
- 37:05then Alan of course would be the more elder of the group. Okay,
- 37:13we would kill it. Oh, we're out. Is There's not really a
- 37:19fourth angel, is there is? This is the only episode I've seen.
- 37:22She could be God. Yeah, she could be God. Yeah, you
- 37:25can just be God because they talk about God is God. Or we could
- 37:29do like a Becky from Roseanne thing and Tesla can be swapped every other week.
- 37:34Okay, it's a good idea. Yeah done. There is somebody that
- 37:40was the director of photography in this and their name is Bob Seaman. Nah.
- 37:45Yeah. We come back from commercial and the little boy is talking to
- 37:50the older lady about writing to God. She says, if you're write to
- 37:52God, you keep your mom safe in the in your heart, and then
- 37:55the little boy says he wishes he could keep her safe in his house.
- 38:00Fuck almost lost it again. I started tearing up so much when he said
- 38:02that, I was like, goddamn it, I almost did it again,
- 38:07and I even put and damn Andy is tearing up again. The lady says
- 38:09everything is gonna be okay, and then instant cut to guitar being smashed.
- 38:13I fucking love those cuts. Don't worry, It's gonna be just fine.
- 38:15Smashed. John is throwing a fit, and no one really seems to give
- 38:22a shit at all. The producer tells the angel Angel, because I'm not
- 38:25sure still if they're angels, that he used to act like this a long
- 38:29time ago. Now he's drinking hard alcohol. He asked his uh limo driver,
- 38:35I guess for more bourbon, and then he whips the bottle at the
- 38:38glass that separates the mixing board and the actual instruments. Happened. It's on
- 38:45my back. Nobody's telling me. Nobody seems not a sin. It is
- 38:49my life. We're gonna stay here until we get it right. Does he
- 38:55do this often? None? Yus. It's like the old old days before
- 39:01Evan. All right, one more time from the top, Monica. We
- 39:08need some more bourbon in here. John, Don't you think you've had enough?
- 39:15No? I haven't had enough. That's it. I'm out of here,
- 39:19packing up guys. John then fires his helper and demand she leaves the
- 39:24keys. She said, he is too drunk and demands the keys. Oh
- 39:30and then he demands the keys. I guess her angel. I guess her
- 39:32angel powers are bending small pieces of metal because the keys are normal. She
- 39:38closes her hand and when she opens them up, the keys are slightly bent.
- 39:42She didn't have to use her powers for that. She didn't at all.
- 39:46Or he can just bend them back. It's not hard to bend it
- 39:51back. At the house, the teenage daughter is going out at ten pm,
- 39:53and then nanny tried to make her stay, but she leaves. Anyways,
- 39:57she gets picked up by her friend and they end up at a hotel
- 40:00to hang out with some college boys before the concert. It appears she was
- 40:04roofied and calls her dad. She then tells her friend, I think they
- 40:07put something in my drink, and her friend goes, well, let's go
- 40:09see what it was. Oh, that's a bad friend. And I'm pretty
- 40:14sure the friend is it almost maybe I don't know, Yeah, because that's
- 40:16rude, Yeah for sure, because like why would the friend be like let's
- 40:21go back in. Yeah, fully, um encouraging like, nothing's wrong.
- 40:29He didn't mean it. Come back inside. Oh, I'm going home?
- 40:37Does the matter with making out a little? He likes you. I don't
- 40:39want to do this. You don't have to just come back inside. Almost
- 40:45drinks like a probly see, let's go ask Do they have an invention for
- 40:52people to take to like if they get roofeed for them and not to affect
- 40:57them. I don't know, but I think California just pass something to where
- 41:00bars have to have drink testers. Now that's a good idea. That's a
- 41:04great idea, right, yeah. Uh So, The teenage daughter leaves a
- 41:07message using a payphone to her dad saying she needs help, but he's too
- 41:13coked out in the studio and not able to read the message. He does
- 41:15a line of coke and then instantly falls asleep, because that's what cocaine does
- 41:19to you. His daughter wakes up in the phone booth and walks home.
- 41:22Hopefully, hopefully she does something smart and hitchhikes in the middle of the night.
- 41:27Yeah, oh good, she does. And the first thing she says
- 41:30to the truck drivers, I'm roofed in my head spinning, you look like
- 41:36you need a ride, miss you all right, kind of I think,
- 41:44sell my dream. I'm really dizzy. Really that got me panicky. And
- 41:54then yeah, I was like, oh no, he's gonna fucking assault on
- 42:00hers. Yeah, and I yep, yes, yeah, like he's he's
- 42:10It was like how that was acted out, you know, mm hmm.
- 42:15And the truck driver seems like he is going to assault her, but then
- 42:19is nice question mark, very weird acting. Uh. They end up at
- 42:23the same place at her mom died, and when she finds out, she
- 42:25demands to be let out and falls down a hill. The perfect grim reaper
- 42:30is there crouching like a ben died. He's wrapper and now we're a commercial
- 42:34break. That was a lot, Yeah, it's every scene is really intense
- 42:39right now. They really wrapped us up to the cocaine dad, the throwing
- 42:45bottles, the multiple times, or she might get sexually assaulted like this sin
- 42:51you know, yeah he's bending. Yeah what a weird like delivery line for
- 42:59that truck. And then like he's just like a good guy, like but
- 43:05you wouldn't take her to like the hospital or you know, or at least
- 43:10he's like not he's doing nothing to be like reassuring her that she's gonna be
- 43:15okay either, He's just like she's along for the ride. How much?
- 43:21Like I know, we haven't really watched it. I only watched it on
- 43:22kid. You know, how much do the Angels supposed to get involved?
- 43:27That's why I don't understand from the beginning, how long have they been working
- 43:29with this family? And later on we'll kind of talk about a little bit,
- 43:34but the the older Angels like you're not supposed to tell him to like,
- 43:39you're not supposed to help him. I'm gonna keep her warm to fucking
- 43:43just do that from the beginning, or don't let her go? Fuck,
- 43:45I don't like, I don't get it. It's like like, oh,
- 43:46there's ten minutes left where Angels. Yeah, Like that's how that's the vibe
- 43:51of the show. But really it really does just feel like though that like
- 43:53each episode is a different set of people that they're helping, So like are
- 44:00they just transported to this new city? Like do they angel fly there?
- 44:05Like what? How? Like I don't I don't know enough to be like
- 44:09oh yeah, like God tells them where to be next or like you know,
- 44:13they they get their spider sense and then that's where they go next,
- 44:16you know, like, yeah, it's just interesting, Like they have like
- 44:20a schedule. Oh yeah, I want I want to know more about that
- 44:23too, like the scheduling, the time off, travel expenses, and where
- 44:28do they sleep? Yeah, where do they get their clothes out? Yeah?
- 44:30Exactly? How did you learn how to drive? Yeah? And I
- 44:32kind of want my angels to have wings in a halo, like in a
- 44:35harp. Like that's kind of the angels that I want. We're the borderline
- 44:39cupids. I don't know cupids or angels, but like that that's my vibe.
- 44:43So's a lot. There's a really funny line that I wrote down.
- 44:52So like when he's starting to like drink and like he's trying to like do
- 44:57new songs, he goes, my music is too dark. Yeah, yeah
- 45:06for sure. He's like I'm the only one doing music, but he's just
- 45:08been whipping bottles of smashing guitars. Oh my god, my music is too
- 45:14dark. Oh I know. I was gonna say, Okay, So the
- 45:16writing for this whole show seems like the writers are like, Okay, let's
- 45:22hint at something, so the viewer keeps guessing because like when you first see
- 45:27the grim Reaper there, John like jumps into the grave and I'm like,
- 45:30Oh, he's gonna that's that he died there. Okay, now now we
- 45:34have to figure out his family or something, right, Nope, didn't die
- 45:36there. And then when the mom was driving before she died, that car
- 45:40was behind her and I'm like, Oh, something bad's gonna happen with the
- 45:43other car. Nope, she's gotten a car accident. Then the teenage daughter,
- 45:46Oh, she's gonna get sexually assaulted in the hotel room. Nope.
- 45:50Nothing. Okay, it's gonna be the truck driver. Nope. Nothing.
- 45:52So it's just they keep adding these little things to like I think to like,
- 45:55oh this Nope, not okay. Well it's just I don't know.
- 45:59It's fucking weird. Are you gonna wear? Is there any Is there any
- 46:04reality where either of you are going to rewatch this episode? I don't think
- 46:08so, because I sure I feel like I'm pretty got this pretty much down.
- 46:15So this is there. The Angel of Death character, how he like
- 46:22talks throughout the episode is normal. And then in this scene where he's like
- 46:25arguing with Tess, he's like speaking in her tone and cadence and it feels
- 46:35pretty racist. I don't know if you noticed that or not, but like
- 46:39how she's talking, how she's talked throughout the whole episode, right, and
- 46:44it sounds like he's trying to sound like her and like give her attitude back,
- 46:47and but it's not great. Well, if you're going to stand around
- 46:52and do nothing, I'm going to proceed as if you weren't here. Okay,
- 46:57okay, now, who's crossing the line. What happened to free you
- 46:59will? There's nothing wrong with keeping free real warm while you're waiting on it
- 47:04to kick in. It felt really gross. Oh that crazy. He's suspicious
- 47:10because he only has one ear ring, and I thought that was kind of
- 47:14a suspicious thing. He's gay, No, not gay, But like,
- 47:19yeah, Harrison, this isn't connected. You were saying, just just really
- 47:22afraid of pirates. Remember when Harrison Ford got an ear ring and then he
- 47:27kept getting plane crashes? Oh what, No, he gets in so many
- 47:30plane crashes and he doesn't stop playing playing. I think he's had one plane
- 47:35crash. Oh that's one too many. But me, I agree, But
- 47:38like there's that multiple and there's no connection between earrings and plane crashes. I
- 47:43don't think well, I mean you could find a connection. I mean,
- 47:45if you look hard and if you can find a connection with anything. I
- 47:49can't believe he's been married to close to flock cart for so long. I
- 47:51did not think that was gonna last. I think Ali McBeal needs Ali mcmeeil
- 47:54oh ninety Okay, al right, so I believe we're at the last segment
- 48:02here. Yeah, So the teenage daughter wakes up from a fall and all
- 48:07this passing out can't be good for her head. She starting passed out like
- 48:10two or three times. When she wakes up, she sees a part of
- 48:15her mom mom's car, like just chilling there and purse and other things.
- 48:22So they didn't clean up the car or the area or anything. But then
- 48:24I don't know how long this has been. I'm not sure if it's like
- 48:28two days after, if it's a day after, is it weeks? We
- 48:31don't know. They don't really touch on that very much. How many times
- 48:36five five plane crashes? Five they're not yeah, they're not like explosion ones.
- 48:43So yeah, in nineteen ninety nine, two thousand and twenty fifteen,
- 48:46twenty seventeen, and twenty twenty, Wow, Like that's so many cars like
- 48:51plane crashes or incident from two thousand to twenty fourteen. He's probably like,
- 48:55Okay, it's in fourteen years, I poss I can't possibly get another one.
- 49:00Regulations continue. Yeah, five plane crashes with a lot. Yeah,
- 49:07because if you got like three d uys, I think you lose your license
- 49:09for life. How many times crash a plane. I don't know what the
- 49:14point of that was, but there's something there, Yeah for sure. Yeah,
- 49:16no earrings or both have both ear rings? Yeah, and you only
- 49:22have one earring that's suspicious. Yeah, and you can't fly planes because it
- 49:25messes up the weight distribution. Yeamn, that's smart. Uh. But so
- 49:31she finds a bunch of shit from her mom in this crashed area, including
- 49:35part of the car. But she's looking through your mom's perse and finds a
- 49:37bunch of pictures of her parents. She starts writing a letter to God and
- 49:40is interrupted by death by the death angel telling her the only way to live
- 49:44is to write a letter to God. So I was like, yeah,
- 49:46motherfucker, what do you think I'm doing? These people are just wanting God
- 49:50to get to get mail. But she's busy, let me check this.
- 49:54Yeah, he should just give her his coat, but you know, thoughts
- 50:00and prayers. So yeah, he says, she has the will, she
- 50:04has to have the will to live, and the older angel said, you
- 50:07can't tell her that she has to want to live, but I'm gonna keep
- 50:09her warm. So what was that then, why I have that conversation?
- 50:14It's so dumb? Yeah, yeah, for sure. John wakes up and
- 50:19finally sees the message on the beeper and sees that his daughter needs his help.
- 50:22But so his keys are ruined, so that means the angel is making
- 50:27it harder for him to save his daughter. So that was like, yeah,
- 50:30oh, because she wants that. She wants the daughter all the way,
- 50:32so she can swoop in boom, then it's gonna be the sun.
- 50:35Then it's gonna be John, and then she'll be a rock star. Yeah.
- 50:38So John calls and is interrupted by his assistant who is an angel,
- 50:43and basically she says, every time you dance in a grave, you die
- 50:47a little bit. I love it, and you need to keep living.
- 50:51They have it back and forth about Heavy and how great she was. John
- 50:54finds his daughter passed out again and saves her and discovers his wife's song from
- 51:00the beginning of the episode, which I kind of forgot about, so I
- 51:02was like, oh, that's a cool touch. But the song creates a
- 51:06paradox because or it just shows that everything is predetermined, and I personally don't
- 51:10believe in free will. I think everything is predetermined. We can have a
- 51:15philosophy talk some the time if you're interested. The song is about being The
- 51:20song is about being found by an angel. They play the song at the
- 51:22same talk show they were on before. The song is shitty and the episode
- 51:27ends. But before it ends, John stands up and throws a rock out
- 51:31a stake of source me hungry. What I love is that you did it
- 51:37once. It kind of did it twice. You went you went all in
- 51:44all the callback. Baby. Yeah, he looks like a cave man.
- 51:50I just kept thinking of Phil Hartman. I'm just a caveman lawyer. I'm
- 51:54just like a simple cave man, you know what. I think. It
- 51:59was like not a bad actress in this or actor is Evy or whatever her
- 52:02name was. Yeah, she was fine. I mean yeah, I was
- 52:05like because when she was doing kind of like her like passive aggressive things at
- 52:08breakfast or when they were downstairs, I was like, I've seen that before
- 52:14I'm speaking about Jeremy myself, the teenager at the time she cried. I
- 52:19think she got cast because she is not afraid to make like a like a
- 52:23really ugly crying face. You know. Some I'm like, I feel like
- 52:28some actors like try to like try to look really cool while crying, but
- 52:30she was like all four it. But I think she was a good actress.
- 52:34I didn't feel like the ending wrapped up much. Yeah. Not.
- 52:38I don't feel like they're gonna be okay. Yeah. I feel like he's
- 52:42just gonna relapse again. He'll relapse, She'll put herself in dangerous situations,
- 52:46and then the sun, the sun, I think is gonna be fine.
- 52:49They didn't really focus on him much because he was like, I got this,
- 52:52But this is ninety five, and if he's playing that middle of the
- 52:53road ship rock, then he's on the tail end of his career. So
- 52:58I mean it's probably about like ninety seven. He's gonna try some kind of
- 53:00like mediocre metal album and then just fade away up obscurity and don't make your
- 53:05like dead wife come back with your daughter who's like a soso singer. That
- 53:09was his comeback. She's not a song. She was a fine singer.
- 53:14She's a better singer than he was. It's true. Wait the mom comes
- 53:17back, no the daughter, Like he's come back. Oh, I get
- 53:22what you're saying. Okay, Like I don't know what level of theme he
- 53:24is because they have security issues, but they're doing like a PBS kind of
- 53:30like yeah show, Well he's now like a Christian singer, so of course
- 53:34he's gonna be on like some publicly at publicly access bullshit. You know.
- 53:39I I think the reason why these two are casted and why they're not great
- 53:45actors is just because they could sing, you know, so like probably like
- 53:49we just need people who can sing for this this concept, I guess.
- 53:52And and he could play piano if I was watching his hands and like I'm
- 53:57not sure the exact song, but he was doing it in the time.
- 53:59He was doing right timing, so you can tell you actually knew how to
- 54:00play. So they wrote because this was this is a long episode, so
- 54:06they they did the wife's song. Yes, I believe they found it.
- 54:12Yeah, that's cool. That's kind of cute. That's kind of a cute
- 54:14thing. But that's a nice touch because I forgot about it and he goes,
- 54:16oh, I'll never hear that song, and then I was like,
- 54:19oh, that's cool. You know that's cool. Callback Yeah, And I
- 54:22was kind of nervous when the daughter was going through the wallet and I'm like,
- 54:24I hope she doesn't find anything bad. It's like a for her.
- 54:30No. The truck driver, he was such a good guy, like maybe
- 54:36call the police or like, I don't know, like that's just suspicious.
- 54:39Yeah, everybody has cell phones in this I know. That blew me too.
- 54:44Like it just was weird because they were all about the pagers and the
- 54:49payphones and the who nots. For them to have a I was like,
- 54:52what the hell? Yeah, but I don't know. I did get a
- 54:57review and I'm gonna read it word for a word. So okay. This
- 55:00review came out in two thousand and eight by swim Team twenty four. That's
- 55:05a weird name. I think their name is Amber Thurman. One out of
- 55:07ten. I'm gonna read this word for what I'm trying to fast. Touched
- 55:12by an Angel is a very nice show. It's a little hash knowing Monica
- 55:16can't sing, but she had a gift that other angels don't have. And
- 55:20I know in my heart that there are other angels who cannot sing, not
- 55:23Jess her, It's just God a massage that we all have our own taint.
- 55:30Monica has the truth and Tess had got music. Different angels have defeats
- 55:37talus, Jess like humans have their own talus. If all the angels can
- 55:44sing, there would not be other gifts. Or if we say, if
- 55:47all humans were prefect, the world would be boring. God has given me
- 55:52a gift, and that's how to write stories, and that to me is
- 55:59spacious and show six oh seven. Monica had to learn the hard way singing
- 56:06is not one of her gifts and naive well be. She had to have
- 56:12the gift she needed, which like the like the like the Halloween, which
- 56:17was the voice of Truth. God knows what other gifts. Belge too and
- 56:22gifts do not. So for me it really makes you think when she says
- 56:31belge too and gifts do not, I was like, what the fuck?
- 56:37Yeah? I love it so much. I want that person to be on
- 56:40on our podcast. I want to hear them talk. They said that the
- 56:44gift that God gave them was how to write stories. But everything's miss I
- 56:50want to read. Maybe two thousand and eight. It was so early though,
- 56:54I don't know if it really was, but then why give it a
- 56:57one out of ten of you enjoy I don't know. Yeah, that's weird.
- 57:00Maybe it's a bot Belgie two and gifts do not every He's like,
- 57:07oh Amber Thurman, right, oh Man, that's funny. Well, I
- 57:15guess before we rate it. I was thinking of a new segment moving forward
- 57:17called six Degrees from Andy. So I've met a lot of celebrities and I
- 57:22feel I can get to anybody within six degrees of separation, like Kevin Bacon.
- 57:29So the very first one we're doing is Kevin Bacon. Rhea suggested this,
- 57:34and this one was actually really simple. Kevin Bacon is on the new
- 57:37Beverly Hills Cop movie with Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy was on the nineteen eighty
- 57:39one cast of SNL when Cheap Trick was the musical guest, and I met
- 57:43cheap Trick boom. So if you think you can stump me, let us
- 57:47know, and let us know who you want me to try to meet or
- 57:51who you want me to see if I can connect myself to, and then
- 57:53I will let you know if I can do it. On an episode nice.
- 57:55Can I do one right now? Sure? Uma Thurman, Maybe I
- 58:00should. I don't want it just to be like a bunch of quiet.
- 58:02Maybe I should try to think next episode, Sie same like for a minute.
- 58:13I haven't met that many celebrity. All the subrities I have met have
- 58:15gotten canceled. That's not good. It's not good. M All all of
- 58:21the celebrities that you've met have been canceled or died. All right, wait,
- 58:28who have I met that's a celebrity? I mean people on this podcast?
- 58:34Oh oh yeah, okay, dog cut that out in person. So
- 58:39Sally Field was in Smoky in the Bandit with Burt Reynolds. Who was in
- 58:45a movie called The Long nine Yards with Adam Sandler or The Whole Night?
- 58:49What's the Football one with Adam Sandler? No Longest Yeah, the Longest Yard
- 58:55with Adam Sandler. I don't know why they both happen to be all times
- 59:00this time. But in nineteen ninety five, Adam Sandlemer was on SNL with
- 59:04Patrick Stewart was was a host of SNL And I have met Wesley Crusher from
- 59:09and I have a picture of a sign picture on the wall boom. That's
- 59:14really impressive. Boo. So yeah, so I just try to stump me
- 59:16because I think I can probably get just about everybody within six degrees if I
- 59:21really think about it. So next one, the next one, I'm doing
- 59:24OJ for sure. Okay, Yeah, but overall I didn't. I mean,
- 59:30I'm not gonna go out of my way to watch this. I would
- 59:34I would rather watch Seventh Heaven over Touched by an Angel. But I didn't
- 59:37think it was nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be in
- 59:39my head. So I don't know, for nineties TV shows i'd never watched
- 59:45before, probably give it like a five out of ten, Like wasn't the
- 59:47worst thing. I don't think it was good, but it was way better
- 59:51than I thought it was going to be. How about you, Alli,
- 59:52It's like a three out of ten, nothing as exciting, Like, yeah,
- 59:59I don't know. There are moments where like the cheesiness is kind of
- 1:00:02funny and like the absurdity of like this is like what you know, Christian
- 1:00:07people think is bad kind of stuff. But I feel like I want to
- 1:00:09dive into Seventh Heaven. Then if we're gonna go this avenue of things exactly.
- 1:00:15Yeah, and I've seen two episodes of This Now and two episodes or
- 1:00:20one episode of Seventh Heaven and Seventh Heaven had me hooked. So in Seventh
- 1:00:24Heaven is there's some funked up stuff in that show, like some fucking weird
- 1:00:29shit. I would say, yeah, I would like when I told you,
- 1:00:31like the pilot episode, Mary convinces Matt to teach her how to kiss?
- 1:00:38Is Mary the sister? Yeah? Wha what? Yeah? Yeah,
- 1:00:44so anyways, you go ahead, No, go ahead, It's fine.
- 1:00:47No. The thing I think I would watch it as like on the background
- 1:00:51while I'm cleaning the house or something like for music or like sound. And
- 1:00:54I like the main actress's voice a lot, like her speaking boys and her
- 1:01:00cur singing voice. It's very comforting. And there's just some kind of like
- 1:01:05my heart I don't know this, Okay, it sounds so fucking stupid,
- 1:01:07but like my heart feels good watching this show. And I don't know,
- 1:01:10like I don't know what that is, but it's just it's kind of a
- 1:01:13weird nostalgia, like subconscious nostalgia for me. So I don't know. I
- 1:01:15probably give it, like I don't like a five or six out of ten.
- 1:01:20Yeah, yeah, no, I'm about the same way. Yeah,
- 1:01:22yeah, I thought it was fine, Like I didn't know when every time
- 1:01:23I watch it, don't think it royalties. Yeah, she's like, I
- 1:01:27feel like I'm less going to hell watching this. But this just kind of
- 1:01:34reinforced my opinion about like CBS like this all this is so cookie cutter mm
- 1:01:37hmm and just like really boring writing, low level. I don't know,
- 1:01:45I just didn't. I didn't. I didn't find much like redeeming qualities of
- 1:01:47this show. Same. I would have been curious to see what commercials were
- 1:01:52playing when this show came out, like this episode came out, like I'm
- 1:01:57sure it was probably like I don't know if Apple Sauce has commercials, but
- 1:02:00Apple Sauce would be a good supplier for this. Yeah. I wonder if
- 1:02:02this was like a nighttime at CBS show or if it was like a daytime
- 1:02:06show. I feel like it had it had to be nighttime to be Oh,
- 1:02:10okay, that makes sense. Yeah, No, that was all right.
- 1:02:15Yeah, I was hoping. I was hoping it'd be way worse,
- 1:02:17but yeah it was okay. I just wouldn't want to do it anymore.
- 1:02:21If I was an angel doing that, I'd be like, I'm so tired
- 1:02:22of this. Yeah, but then that's what I'm saying. Do they follow
- 1:02:25time like humans? If so, then it's not that like magical, you
- 1:02:29know, it's like, all right, well, next Monday, I guess
- 1:02:31we'll go to make sure Jim dies. Like if I if I turn to
- 1:02:36an angel, I don't want to just be standing. I want to be
- 1:02:37like floating and ship. Yeah. So I don't know. I'm just like
- 1:02:40I'm hoping if I become I don't know what criteria is to be an angel,
- 1:02:43but yeah, imagine you like, do you great your whole life and
- 1:02:45you become an angel? And then God's like, all right, man,
- 1:02:47you're gonna be a limit driver. You're like like that, I gotta be
- 1:02:52a little I gotta be a nanny. Yeah, that worse ship? All
- 1:02:55right? Well, when do I get my wings? You don't? You
- 1:02:58got to take a greyhound off? Yeah? This is there's some budget cuts
- 1:03:02in heabit. I guess I don't know. All right, Well, make
- 1:03:09sure you uh tip your pastor or whatever. I don't know, whatever you
- 1:03:14guys do in church? Uh? Is that what that is? No,
- 1:03:19you don't give them tips? But so kath donation all right, so yeah,
- 1:03:24donations. Does anybody have anything they like to like to promote Ali?
- 1:03:28I know you're doing a lot of stand up. What's going on? What's
- 1:03:30coming up? Yeah? I am just doing stand up in Portland, Oregon.
- 1:03:36So if you're in Portland, come see me. I'm on Instagram at
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- 1:03:52as of right now, the very first episode of Andy's Murder Radio is out.
- 1:03:57It's Charles Manson. Sorry, I didn't know how hard it was going
- 1:04:00to be to talk for twenty five minutes straight without any water. So next
- 1:04:03time I'm gonna have some kind of liquid with me. But check it out.
- 1:04:06The next episode is gonna be fun every Wednesday. What are you gonna
- 1:04:12drink? You know? I think I was gonna switch it up every time,
- 1:04:15like every episode. Yeah, I think next one, have some wine,
- 1:04:18then chocolate milk, and then chocolate milk. I love chocolate milk.
- 1:04:21Regular milk that'd be so creepy. Chocolate milk andy, Yeah, legitimately the
- 1:04:29best chocolate milk today on the market, Trader Joe's fair Trade chocolate milk.
- 1:04:35I just started going to best chocolate milk, Okay, I've ever had.
- 1:04:40It is such a god. What makes it so good is like smooth or
- 1:04:44what just like it's like, got like this this really good chocolate e like
- 1:04:48richness, not like not in a bad but not like dark chocolatey, not
- 1:04:51like too overbearing, Like it's just like so flavorful compared to other chocolate milks.
- 1:04:57Yeah. I like to have live flowers in my house. So I
- 1:04:59just that's why I start going to Trader Joe's because somebody goes they have the
- 1:05:01best flowers, Like, Okay, I'll check it out, and they fucking
- 1:05:03do have the best flowers. So and I'm out of flowers right now.
- 1:05:06So next time I go, probably tomorrow, I'm gonna go get some fucking
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- 1:06:49Big Door, Big Prize Media. God knows what other gifts. Belge
- 1:07:00too and gifts do not so for me, it really makes you think when
- 1:07:08she says belge too and gifts do not. I was like, what the
- 1:07:15fuck, Yeah, I love it so much.