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Destined for Wild on Traveling the Pan-American Highway in a 80-Series Land Cruiser · The Overland Journal Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Overland Journal podcast. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Jordana, and today I am with two very special guests,
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  Speaker 1: Josh and Vanessa from Dustin for a while.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yay.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm really excited because we're in my hometown today
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  Speaker 1: recording this podcast, and you guys just happened to be
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  Speaker 1: from beautiful British Columbia, Canada as well. Yeah, it's always
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  Speaker 1: fun to chat with some Canadians about overlanding the world.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's funny because our house is actually thirty minutes
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  Speaker 3: from your house.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just very weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super fun though to chat with you guys
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  Speaker 1: about that, because I don't really get a chance to
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  Speaker 1: talk it to Canadians that often about overlanding.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, handful of Canadians I think too, not very many,
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  Speaker 2: very many, nice, I know.
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  Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about the trip you
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  Speaker 1: just got back a few months ago, Yes, from a
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  Speaker 1: big trip. Tell us where you went and what vehicle
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  Speaker 1: did you take.
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  Speaker 3: So we just finished the Pan American Highway. So we
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  Speaker 3: started off in BC, Canada and went south. We finished
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  Speaker 3: probably I think about two months ago, but we drove
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  Speaker 3: our nineteen ninety four eighty series land Cruiser.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. Yeah, in the nineties Toyota, Yes, the best. Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So how did you decide that you wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: this Panamerican drip?
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  Speaker 3: Well, honestly, I followed you guys on Instagram when you
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  Speaker 3: did it. Sorry, this is really cool. So I started
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  Speaker 3: to want to do it after you guys had finished,
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  Speaker 3: And then I had been thinking about for years, and
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  Speaker 3: then Vanessa and I got together. Yeah, and I'd always
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  Speaker 3: talked about us just doing this trip, and we had
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  Speaker 3: talked about someday, let's do this, someday, let's do this,
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  Speaker 3: and we kind of hit a point where like, when
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  Speaker 3: is someday? So we just kind of figured where we
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  Speaker 3: were young and healthy, we are young and healthy, why
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  Speaker 3: not just kind of go Yeah, so we just kind
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  Speaker 3: of did it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's one of those things we had thought about
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  Speaker 3: for a really long time. But the only thing holding
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  Speaker 3: us back was really us And.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we didn't want to wait until like we're old,
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  Speaker 5: retired and don't want to sit in a car for
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  Speaker 5: like hours on end each day driving.
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  Speaker 2: So really, when we do it now, when we don't
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  Speaker 2: have kids.
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  Speaker 5: Or a house or anything like that, this is holding
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  Speaker 5: us back, so we're like clo' let's go exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because most people always send a lot the wait
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  Speaker 3: till their retirement to go actually start living life and
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  Speaker 3: do stuff, but kind of have like life isn't promised,
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  Speaker 3: never guaranteed tomorrow, so why not go and just live
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  Speaker 3: life now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when or were what were the things that you
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  Speaker 1: had to put in order to be able to go
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  Speaker 1: in terms of preparation.
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  Speaker 3: So there's quite a bit. So we had talked about it's,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, for quite a while, but we didn't
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  Speaker 3: really have a date on when we were going to
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  Speaker 3: go or how we're.
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  Speaker 4: Going to do it or any of that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're talking about for like the last like probably
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  Speaker 5: five is years seriously about doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then at the time we had like a Mitchumsi,
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  Speaker 3: Delica and had kay I talked about, oh, this is
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  Speaker 3: like perfect, this is great, and then after realizing how
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  Speaker 3: complicated it was to fix things with being a right hand.
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  Speaker 2: Drive and being a Japanese important.
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  Speaker 3: Imported, we're just kind of like, know what, this is
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  Speaker 3: just a lot of extra complications with getting parts getting
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  Speaker 3: a fixed right hand.
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  Speaker 1: Drive as well, because right hand drive you can't get
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  Speaker 1: into Nicaraga.
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  Speaker 3: Nicaraga Coasta Rica and someone told me apparently Panama.
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  Speaker 5: I think Panama has some rules with it too. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if it's as strict as Coastreaka and Nicaraga,
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  Speaker 5: but yeah, you can't enter the border with the right
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  Speaker 5: hand drive're block.
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  Speaker 3: So basically after finding that out, we're like, okay, shoot,
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  Speaker 3: we need to figure something else out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we had thrown around the idea a lot of
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  Speaker 3: what we were wanting to take, and we had seen
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  Speaker 3: basically people have done it in literally everything at this point,
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  Speaker 3: so we're kind of like, how crazy do we go
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  Speaker 3: with this? Because it's more important to actually traveled and
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  Speaker 3: have like the perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Vehicle to do it in whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The vehicle is a mythical creature.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, because again I'm sure, like you guys know, we've
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  Speaker 3: met people who've done it in like a Honda Civic
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  Speaker 3: and people who've done it in multimillion dollar brigs, and
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  Speaker 3: all of them have things they like and don't like
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  Speaker 3: about their vehicle. So you can kind of you don't
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  Speaker 3: need to have anything special. You can really just take
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  Speaker 3: whatever and go for it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever works for you exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of just trying to figure out, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what are we doing, how are doing this, the logistics
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  Speaker 3: of it, how much would this cost, how long we
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  Speaker 3: could actually take to do this. Yeah, basically like subletting
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  Speaker 3: our house out, our jobs, allowing us to go do this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: getting a vehicle to actually go and do this because
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  Speaker 3: at the time we didn't really have a good car
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  Speaker 3: to actually challenge.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we like said note taking the van. So we're
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  Speaker 5: back the drawing board for something. And we had all
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  Speaker 5: the ideas like what to pick up with the camp
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  Speaker 5: on the back, or what a van or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: So we researched for a whole long time looking.
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  Speaker 3: Looked into I spent way too much time I'm researching this,
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  Speaker 3: So looked into vans, trucks, SUVs, small cars, different builds
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  Speaker 3: you could do on everything, and kind of got honestly
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  Speaker 3: really overwhelmed, and I was like, well, what's perfect? And
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  Speaker 3: then kind of hit a point where really it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: need to be perfect. So we're like, okay, well, what
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  Speaker 3: are things that were important to us? And I wanted
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  Speaker 3: things to be to be reliable. I wanted it to
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  Speaker 3: be easy to get parts for it, easy to fix,
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  Speaker 3: and I wanted to be comfortable, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 3: it to be like super big and flashy.
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  Speaker 4: We would cause a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 2: And is able to go where we want to go
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  Speaker 2: to yes, and be capable.
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  Speaker 3: Of going everywhere that we wanted to be able to go,
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  Speaker 3: so the vehicle will never hold us back. So kind
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  Speaker 3: of just started looking around things, looking at the drying
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  Speaker 3: board and kind of figured Toto checked a lot of
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  Speaker 3: those boxes. So we figured Toto didn't really know what
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  Speaker 3: we were wanting with that, and then we went from
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  Speaker 3: I think at the time I actually owned an old Tacoma,
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  Speaker 3: but there's some issues with that. Looked into foreigners, bought
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  Speaker 3: a four owner got to the foreigner it was the
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  Speaker 3: dream had always been Lane Cruiser, could always been my
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  Speaker 3: dream vehicle, but it seemed kind of unattainable.
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  Speaker 5: They're so hard to find in Canada, especially be seen
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  Speaker 5: like they're always way overpriced.
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  Speaker 3: And ones that aren't right hand drive. There's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of ones in Canada are JDM. Yeah, So I had
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  Speaker 3: been looking around for a while and just kind of
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  Speaker 3: had that one off because I didn't think it was attainable.
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  Speaker 3: And then one came up for sale in Kelowna, and
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  Speaker 3: we were like, oh, let's.
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  Speaker 4: Go check this out.
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  Speaker 3: So it took a couple of days, drove out and
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  Speaker 3: went and looked at it, got inspected, and kind of
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  Speaker 3: just figured why not give it a shot, pull the
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  Speaker 3: trigger on it, and here we are now.
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  Speaker 5: Well we also land on this specific lane cruiser because
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  Speaker 5: we were also inspired by another couple that did this trip,
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  Speaker 5: Sunrise Kelse.
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  Speaker 2: We really loved Goose.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they had any there was a ninety five
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  Speaker 3: I believe, but had a camp det conversion. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: after seeing that, I've really liked the idea of that,
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  Speaker 3: simply the fact that you could have like the camper
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  Speaker 3: built into the vehicles you would have to get in
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  Speaker 3: and out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was still lower profile.
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  Speaker 3: It's relatively but it was funny because I think on
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  Speaker 3: through one of the forms or something, I saw that
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  Speaker 3: they were no longer.
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  Speaker 2: Making them Oh yeah camp text yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Or they said the camp Tech conversion. So yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of shoot, how's this going to work?
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  Speaker 4: Like, how do we find this?
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  Speaker 3: He had looked around trying to find used ones, couldn't
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  Speaker 3: really figure it out, and I did the crazy thing
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  Speaker 3: of emailing the company.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he reached out to the owner of camp Tech.
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  Speaker 3: And they are still making them, yeah, but he had
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  Speaker 3: just stopped for a couple of years, and then people
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  Speaker 3: just took that as like that's the truth and just
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  Speaker 3: ran with that.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So called him and he's like, no, I can definitely
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  Speaker 3: do that for you, guys. So we drove down to
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  Speaker 3: Colorado and bought the roof, got the roof installed, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then basically just built the truck up from there.
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  Speaker 3: So we basically bought the truck completely stock and slowly
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  Speaker 3: built it into our little house on wheels.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing is you get overwhelmed because
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  Speaker 1: they are all these options and all of these choices,
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  Speaker 1: and any of them could potentially work, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: are they is this the right choice for you? And
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  Speaker 1: also is it available?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: See, land cruisers are really they're not that easy to
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  Speaker 1: find you. Yeah, so you can you're almost like I
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  Speaker 1: kind of think of this as trying to buy clothes sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: You're you know, maybe you're if you're into flipping through
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  Speaker 1: magazines looking at clothes. You're like, yeah, this seems like
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  Speaker 1: the perfect jacket or whatever. But then you go to
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  Speaker 1: the store and you can actually find that jacket in
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  Speaker 1: your size. You have to actually find something that's in
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  Speaker 1: your size that fits well, it's going to do what
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  Speaker 1: you need and it looks good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you want it to fit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: It has to be right all these ways, right, And
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing is, well, I feel it's kind of silly.
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  Speaker 3: It might just be me, but I feel everyone's gotten
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  Speaker 3: into it at some point that doesn't feel right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm just don't have enough room. A big think
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  Speaker 3: for me is cup holders.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the cup holders are very lots of cup holders
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  Speaker 2: for as many drinks.
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  Speaker 1: Especially in toyotas. You have to have the proper size
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  Speaker 1: of cupholder.
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  Speaker 2: But don't come with the holders.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the one design flot of toyotas. I
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  Speaker 3: will say, I'm standing by that. But you can add
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  Speaker 3: them and we have I think now we have six. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if six or eight couple dars in our trug, it's
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  Speaker 3: insane and it's just the best.
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  Speaker 4: So you can always get them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just finding what fits you well and works for
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  Speaker 3: the purpose that you're wanting. Like a big thing for
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  Speaker 3: me is always not even just for like an overland vehicle,
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  Speaker 3: but just always have a vehicle that can allow you
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  Speaker 3: to live the life that you want to live, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's just if you're just driving tune from work, or
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to ski hills or if you'd like
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  Speaker 3: to go off roading or whatever. Just I never want
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  Speaker 3: my vehicle to hold me back from doing what I
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  Speaker 3: want to do. So we kind of figure like, well,
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  Speaker 3: this check's pretty much every box, so why.
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  Speaker 4: Not try it out?
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  Speaker 1: What were the boxes for you? Did you want it
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  Speaker 1: to be able to take you on more technical trails
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  Speaker 1: or did you want it to be able to take
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  Speaker 1: you to be camping somewhere comfortably or what were the
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  Speaker 1: I'll say we were there requirements were the vehicle that
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  Speaker 1: you wanted.
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  Speaker 3: That's what was kind of tricky because I'll say broadly
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  Speaker 3: yes to all those questions.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, we're not huge technical trail off road or so,
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  Speaker 5: but like we like to to do it then.
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  Speaker 3: But we didn't know what we wanted it to be
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  Speaker 3: able to do. We did want it to hold us
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  Speaker 3: back because we had no idea what to expect. So
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to basically get anywhere and everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so our.
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  Speaker 3: Truck it's only central locked, it doesn't have it's not
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  Speaker 3: triple locked like some eighties are, And honestly, I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was perfectly fine. Before we left, I was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I have to add a bokers, you have to do this.
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  Speaker 3: It's totally okay, perfectly fine. But we wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: able to like have what we wanted, wanted to be
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  Speaker 3: able to sleep comfortably. We wanted basically have everything that
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  Speaker 3: we needed just with us and not overthink it.
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  Speaker 4: So our build was.
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  Speaker 3: Like very simple, Like we didn't have like internal water tanks,
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  Speaker 3: didn't have hot water, we didn't have really like no
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  Speaker 3: no bathroom. We didn't really have like any like luxuries,
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  Speaker 3: I'll say. But it was kind of funny is when
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  Speaker 3: we were leaving a lot of people, Oh, how would
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  Speaker 3: you get by with them having a bathroom or shower
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  Speaker 3: running water or whatever. And it honestly wasn't that bad.
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  Speaker 3: It like we made it work the entire time. We
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  Speaker 3: never really had any problems trying to find you have anything.
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  Speaker 2: You might have smelt that a lot more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But we basically just wanted the vehicle to be
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  Speaker 3: able to carry what we wanted, get to where we wanted,
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  Speaker 3: and be able to do what we wanted. And the
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  Speaker 3: biggest thing was I just wanted reliability because I just
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to break down in the middle of somewhere
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  Speaker 3: and not be able to fix it. So like a
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  Speaker 3: big requirement for me is like I looked up what
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  Speaker 3: vehicles are basically everywhere in the world, What vehicles can
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  Speaker 3: you get parts for everywhere in the world. What are
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  Speaker 3: some of the most reliable vehicles ever made? And what
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: are some the most durable vehicles ever made? And basically,
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  Speaker 3: like a quote that I heard that I liked was,
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  Speaker 3: what does United Nations, the Taliban, and the Diamond Minds
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  Speaker 3: in Africa have in common? It's that they all drive
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  Speaker 3: land cruisers because they don't break. So I took that
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  Speaker 3: as a pretty good indication. That's a good idea, So
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  Speaker 3: we kind of just went with it. We knew nothing
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  Speaker 3: about land cruisers before buying it and just kind of
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  Speaker 3: figured we'd figured out and I definitely know way more than.
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  Speaker 4: I need to know about them at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's great. Yeah, that's great In terms of the vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: how did it end up performing? Because you said reliability,
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  Speaker 1: you could get parts everywhere, and that was the intent
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  Speaker 1: behind the vehicle choice. Yeah, when you actually hit the road,
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  Speaker 1: did that ring true?
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  Speaker 3: It did for the most part. So there was a
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  Speaker 3: few things that definitely could have been better. We only
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  Speaker 3: had one major breakdown on our entire trip, which very thankful.
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  Speaker 2: For, and it was like right at the beginning, like
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  Speaker 2: we're in Mexico when it happened.
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  Speaker 4: I think we weren't even two weeks into our trip.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, oh no, it's over, We're done.
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  Speaker 3: Or this is where I still don't know why this
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  Speaker 3: happened because I changed everything before we left, but one
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  Speaker 3: of our U joints exploded on the freeway going like
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  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty kilometers an hour, and then the
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  Speaker 3: drive shaft basically just shot well punched a hole through
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  Speaker 3: the floor of the truck. It punched a huge dent
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  Speaker 3: in the frame. It cracked our transmission bell housing and
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  Speaker 3: broke a bunch of other stuff. So we basically lost
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  Speaker 3: all our transmission flood on the side of the highway
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  Speaker 3: and it just sucked. We were able to get it
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  Speaker 3: patched in Mexico, surprisingly with JB. Weld, which was surprising.
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  Speaker 3: That works the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: JBI Weld held on the whole trip too.
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  Speaker 3: The one thing that was ironic as well in this
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  Speaker 3: one little section of Mexico where we broke down. Apparently
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  Speaker 3: that's the one area that doesn't have line cruisers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so wow. Ironically there was not parts for us, No.
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  Speaker 3: So they had we got helped out a ton, Like
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  Speaker 3: the shop that we went to, they knew a guy
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  Speaker 3: in a city over that had some parts. We had
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  Speaker 3: people like on Instagram and stuff reaching out that we're
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  Speaker 3: going to like like create us a transmission, all this
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  Speaker 3: stuff so nice. A lot of people just reached out
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  Speaker 3: were willing to help. Yeah, thankfully they were able to
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  Speaker 3: kind of pass the transmission and just make it work
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  Speaker 3: and it held the entire trip. Like we literally didn't
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  Speaker 3: lose any fluid the entire time, which was shocking, very shocking.
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  Speaker 3: We're changing now that we're home camera, but very surprised
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  Speaker 3: with that. Other than that, like we went through breaks
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  Speaker 3: and like normal wearing tear parts.
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  Speaker 5: But I think that's because we overlooked how heavy our
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  Speaker 5: interior build was, so that definitely made us go through
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  Speaker 5: breaks more and probably did a lot more stress on
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  Speaker 5: the vehicle itself.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't think very much about how heavy our truck
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  Speaker 3: was and then how much weight we added to our truck, right,
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  Speaker 3: So we definitely were pushing that line quite a bit,
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  Speaker 3: so we went through breaks faster than most, so that's
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  Speaker 3: something that we're upgrading and changing.
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  Speaker 2: Now mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: And like we're lightening our trucks and we're lightning our
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  Speaker 3: truck because that was besides the transmission and the brakes.
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: The other thing we had to do is like we
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: had to get our power steering pump rebuilt. We had
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: our startter rebuilt, and part of our frame cracked around
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: where steering box was. That's apparently really common problem with
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: any series. So we got that fixed. But other than that,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: it did fantastic.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: It's awful. One gas oh.
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right, so it was pretty crazy on field, but
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: we did our entire trip and honestly never really had
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: anything that was a major concern besides that one breakdown
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: and just trusted the entire time and it would fully
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: do it again.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just kept going.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: It was great.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: So it did fantastic up until actually now that I'm thinking,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: up until the end of our trip. By the last
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: month around the road, it started burning a lot of oil. Yeah,
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: struggling a bit. It's okay, well, we were kind of
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: finishing off the trip, but getting it back to Canada,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: it was it was hurting by the time to get Yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: so that was fun though, Yeah, but fully trusted it
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: would do it again for sure.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Amazing, that's awesome. Yeah, it does by the end get
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: a bit worn.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: And you guys were run for nine months. Yeah right,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: And yeah it's a lot daily use. You're living out
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: of the vehicle and driving road conditions you wouldn't normally
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: be driving on the way to work or from work.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure then once, yeah exactly.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: So when you broke down that that day you were
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: in Mexico and it was getting dark and you'd pull
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: over on the side of the road, and Vanessa was
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: sick at the time pisoning.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I got food poisoning, but I did.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I could have gone wrong that day, did go wrong. Yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: when we first started our trip, or like, kayn't be
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: anywhere at any time, this is gonna be fine. And
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: one of our friends was like, yeah, we'll come meet
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: you guys in Mexico. Cool, that will be great. And
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: then we had started they told us where they had
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: booked their tickets too, and it was the complete bottom
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: end of Mexico. Like, oyeah, we'll be there in two weeks.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: This always happened every time. We were always talking to
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: travelers and you know, the joy and the wonderful you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming to visit, or we're
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: so grateful to have family or friends that come in. Yeah,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: but it's always somewhere super far away. Yeah, and you
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: know you're pushing the schedule and long driving days to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: be able to make it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always that figures into the equation.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: So that's exactly what happened is we just felt like
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: we were like in a huge rush.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Immediately it was like blast. It's really so like.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Blasting through Mexico, and like little things that were like, oh,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: like could we stop to like maybe deal with this,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Like literally when that you joint exploded, I remember things.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, next time I'll stop and look to see
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: what that noise is.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we start hearing a noise and really exploded and it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Was too late. Yeah, but it was It was just
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: very chaotic because like we literally we broke down it
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: probably eleven o'clock in the morning, So pull over the
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: side of the highway, got it off into the corner
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit and then call mechanic or sorry, called
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: there's a program in Mexico called Green Angels.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a tourism helpline kind of thing.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we got told to call them, so we
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: called them and they're, yeah, we'll send the mechanic to you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it, like somebody will be there in
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: like thirty minutes. Yeah, like okay, cool, this is great.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Where in Mexico was there?
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: This was roughly it was like twenty minutes ouside of Guadalajara,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Because we well, initially we were going down the coast.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: We're playing on doing the coast the whole way. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: that time of the year was when all that like
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: heavy stuff was going on off the cartel stuff. They
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: had actually had a road block and blocked off the
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: coastal highway, so we had to go back and around
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: and go up around Mexico City. Yeah, so that's why
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: we were near goad To Ohio when we broke down.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So where it got funny is call this guy. He said, yeah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: we're sending somebody, don't worry about it. Blah blah blah
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: blah blah. Like hour goes by, there's still nothing. We're
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: sitting there. Vanessa is still sick. She's going to get
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: sick in the bathroom or not in the bathroom. The
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: bushes like every fifteen minutes. Then a random guy just
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: walks up to us, this is in the middle of
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: nowhere and starts like asking what's going on. So like
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to him like he has broken English, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: have very broken Spanish.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: We're trying to figure it out.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm asking him like, oh, you're part of
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: like the Liqureen Angels whatever. He just kept saying no,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: So I was, oh, okay, and then he calls. He's, oh,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: call a buddy talking to his friend. His friend spoke English,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: and he's, oh, yeah, I can be there in like
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: ten minutes to tell you.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, like we have a tow.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Trup coming already, like like it's okay, like someone's coming. Yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: so okay. That guy just walks away and leaves. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: this is probably about noon. Fast forward now it's probably
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: nine o'clock at night. There's still nobody. He's tried to
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: call multiple times, but the call keeps getting like the
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: answer and then we just hung up right away.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we kept trying to recall Green Angel so see
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: what was going on. And then yeah, they kept hanging
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: up on us. I don't know why.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: It was going to like a different number or something.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: It was very weird and it was hacktic. I watched
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: your video, your YouTube video on this and it's not
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like you're you're not like pulled over in this night
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: quiet area. You're on the side of a highway and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they're all these trucks, you know, going by.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It's getting dark.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there was like at some points there was
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: like inchest between us and Cardio fla highway. It was
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: not fun. Yeah, And where it got silly though, is
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: then probably about like eight or nine o'clock at night,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: we get a phone call and it's from the guy
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: we had talked to at eleven in the morning from
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: the Green Angels company.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh, like you're like, you haven't got picked up,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and we're like, no, no, oh yeah, we send somebody.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: He told us that you sent them away, Like he
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: didn't tell us he was with you, tell us that
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: we were with you. Like we asked if he's a
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: part of your company. He said no, and so he said,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, okay, we'll send somebody else.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: So again we're.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Like okay, and then ten o'clock at night. A guy
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: shows up in a pickup truck with a chain and
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: he looked at me first and said, I don't understand
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: why you can't drive, and then I was like there's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: a hole in our transmission.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Then he looked as like okay, I guess that makes sense.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But he told us down the highway with a chain,
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: it's pitch blockout. And the way he would tell us
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: to go faster or slow down was he would put
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: his hand up or down on the Freuway in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: dark so you couldn't see anything. And that's just how
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: he would tell us what we needed to do. So
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: he told us twenty minutes back to wherever his shop
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: was and then basically was saying, yeah, let's just leave
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: your car here, leave your keys here, Like well, where
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: are we just just leave it fe So we were
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: like okay, well we have all of our stuff in
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: this truck at this point. Yeah, so like okay, So
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: basically threw the stuff in the back of his truck,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: left our truck in this random parking lot, and then
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: he drove us to a random hotel where they took
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: us in.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah they're really nice people though, brought.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Us in like host us for where there ended up
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: being there for like about a week. Yeah, they had
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: a restaurant. They just let us eat it, like put
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: us on a tab, yeah, and just like make sure
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: everything was taken care of, which is incredible.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Wow, that was awesome.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: It was like so cheap their staying there for the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: whole week and eating too.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I think it was like seventy five dollars Canadians. Yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: it was insane hotel.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was insane.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I was able to feel better.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually could recover and yeah, I was gonna say,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it's probably such a relief for you to be able
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with food poisoning to have a place to.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah just lay down or yeah it's not pretty.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: It was funny because there's the language bearers with a
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: mechanic because we kept asking, oh, how are things going,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: like yeah, like what's going on? But then he wouldn't reply,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: or you'd say oh, yeah, i'll come pick you up
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: in ten minutes yeah, but would then come like five
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: hours later.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So it's just kind of funny because we're like, all right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: this is a something, will see what happens. And we
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: still didn't even know if we were going to be
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: able to continue our trip. We thought we were done
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: at that point, so it's kind of like again a
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: lot of uncertainty because we didn't know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: What was going on.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how did you cope with that? Because I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: think a lot of times in our daily life, like
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: you guys were working, you're working as a graphic designer
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and you're working as a barber beforehand, and I'm assuming
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: that your life is kind of structured at the point
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and things like this don't happen in your day to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: day life. So all of a sudden you're thrown into
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: this situation where everything is up in the air. You
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: don't know if your trip's going to continue, Like how
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: did you deal with that? Or how did you did
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you just go with it?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Or It was kind of nice in a sense because
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I feel like because it happened in obviously like through
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: such a wrench of the mix, it definitely just did
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: like kind of like our daily normal routine to be like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: all right, this is how it's gonna be. We're not
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: gonna know what's gonna happen.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we just.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Kind of have to go with it.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: And that was nice because normally I'm very like routine
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: with everything I do. So it's nice to be like, well,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. We could leave today, we could
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: leave tomorrow, we might not leave. I don't know.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we just kind of rolled with it, which
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: was nice.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I was personally just delusionly optimistic. I'm like, it's gonna
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: get fixed. We're gonna go meet Josh's parents because his
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: parents were also visiting us along with our friends in
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: the same town in southern Mexico.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, we're gonna get there in time and
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: see everybody. It's gonna be fine. And I just kept
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: telling myself that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: So were like, yeah, I want to see, Like we'll
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: say we're still going and we'll see what happens.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: We got our truck back and we're like, okay, we
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: have a lot of ground to cover, not a lot
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: of time to see these people. Yeah, And it was
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: funny because we got to They were in Waltuco, Mexico,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: and we got there the day our friends were leaving.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: We just met them at the beach and then drove
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: them to the airport and that was our time we
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: spent with.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: We would have had like a week with them there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: We did break down.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Exactly so it ended up working out and it was fine,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: but we're like, all right, this is kind of how
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: it has to be for a little bit. Yeah, so again,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: it's kind of nice to throw us into the deep
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: end a little bit, to be like, Okay, we don't
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: know what's going on. We have to just figure things
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: out and we have to problem solve and that's part
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: of this trip.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I said the tone probably for the rest
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of the trip.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I became it is funny. Van Essa made
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: fun of me a lot and a lot of people
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: we met traveling because I got into a habit of
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: I had like a joke that it was like my
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: seventy five point inspection. Every morning I'd wake up and
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I'd like, everything sounds like I'm not not going to
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: do this, and then have something else break.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be an expensive mistake exactly double check everything.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: But then anytime we stopped to either get food, gas, anything,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I would check all the fluids. Every morning, I would
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: check over everything, and every night I would check over everything.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: So I was basically just always checking everything. So I
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: didn't want it to break. But nothing else major broke
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the rest of the.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Trip, So yeah, not mad about it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a good practice.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely way over the top, but it was
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: not mad about it.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Being proactive exactly helps a lot, exactly.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Definitely your future self.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, So thank you very much.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I felt when our truck did break, I was like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: this was definitely preventable. I could have done something about this.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm living and learning from that experience
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: and I'm not doing that now. Yeah, so it worked out.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it sounds like there were lots of lessons learned,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: which I think is just something that goes hand in
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: hand with your first big overland trip or even a
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: small overland trip. Yeah, you know, the first time you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: go out and you're pushing yourself a little bit and
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you're learning things. So you're learning about the heavy interior
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and you're learning about doing those checks every morning.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else, and it doesn't have to be
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: vehicle related that you learned on this trip that you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that would change things for you moving forward?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: What do you think I have to think?
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: For a second, big thing for I'd say us as
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: a couple was our communication got a lot.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: You spent a lot of time together, so you get
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: better as a couple, you get worse. Thankfully, we got better. Yeah, funny, Yeah,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I joke.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: That our truck I believe it was forty eight square feet, yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: not including the pop top.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's funny.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Is as talking to a friend about this as well
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: as like when you spend that much time with somebody
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: in like farthest distances arm reach, you learn how to
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: talk really well. Yeah, because little problems can become big problems.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: So it's nice. It's like, oky, this is what I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: thinking right now, because a lot of time for me personally,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: i'd over overthink everything, whereas I like Vanessa's mad at
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: me chilling.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Wasn't she just chilling?
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'm fine, why are you exactly?
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: Just read end everything?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, communication got very good for us as a couple,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: which is yeah, yeah, and.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Definitely learning how to take care of our bodies properly, right yeah.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because living in a car and well again, a
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: lot of times you just get food it was side
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: of the road or gas stations or whatever, and really
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: this just don't feel good. You need to take care
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: of yourself. Be aware of that, especially with a big
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: trip like that you're sitting a lot, so knowing to
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: be like, Okay, I need to be active, I need
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: to do things. Yeah, because definitely if you just sit
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: there and just eat ruk food for the entire time,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: you're not going to be feeling Yeah.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes those things take a little while because I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: think there's so much that you're processing and you know
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that eating healthy makes you feel better. Or you know
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: that you are driving a lot, and so you need
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: some movement and some exercise as well. But all these
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: little things are being put into place over time.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I think.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: And you also want to be experimental, you want to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: try certain foods, yeah, and you want to embrace where
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you are. But balancing it out, yeah, it's really important.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: But how did you did you introduce more activities or yeah,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: so cook more for yourself or how did you We actually.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Didn't eat out a ton, No, we didn't eat it
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: very much.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: All we made.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Actually one one big joke we have one of the
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: couples made the closest connection with on this trip. They
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: make the joke that, oh, it was nothing beats the
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Baja fish tacos because we didn't have them when we
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: were in Baja, so we were being too cheap, like
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: we can't afford to eat anything else. We're gonna make everything.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: So there's like you went to Baja and you know
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: the fish tacos. So that was just one joke. They
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: always had was.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Nothing to be we just made all of our food
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: run a budget.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So next time, yeah, next time we're.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Realizing like, oh we planned and saved for this, we
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: can buy food.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: That's okay.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: So you have a balance for sure, like be aware
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: of how much you're spending, but also like make room
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: for fun, Like I'm glad that we relaxed a little
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: bit after that and be like, oh, we actually we
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: can go eat out or we can do this activity exactly.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was the thing is we loosen up
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: a lot to be like, okay, we can't afford to
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: do things.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just even.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Just relaxing to be like okay, it's okay to slow down,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: it's okay to do stuff.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: We felt rushed all the time because we're like, oh,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: we have this short timeline to do all this trip,
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: and we ended up extending our trip because we like,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: there's no way we can do this in six months,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: and even doing it in nine months is not enough time.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Which we wish we would have done it longer too,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: but we had jobs and stuff to come back home too,
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: so we had to cut it short.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: But that's just we're kind of breaking down. It was
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: kind of nice.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like reminded us like it's okay to
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: slow down. Yeah, definitely Again back home, I find like
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: we live like a very fast paced life of just
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: constantly moving. So it's nice to be like, oh, we
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: don't need to do this, like you can just if
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: you only go for a little bit right now, that's okay,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And it's okay not to be in a rush everywhere. Yeah,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: So it's just nice to actually slow down, be okay,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: you just appreciate where you are right now, enjoy that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So you've been back for a few months now, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I'm curious how the adjustment process has been. This is
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: something I've talked with a lot of travelers about. Yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: just like reverse culture shock or I feel like I
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: kind of felt drunk for like I wasn't, but I
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: felt weird.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Toothpaste al You're like, why are there so many toothpaist
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Like there's so many toothpaste options and other things like that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: What are some things that you've noticed since you've been
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: back home.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: One of the things that was funny, as I remember
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: this is probably the first two or three days that
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: we were home, and we were driving with my parents
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: somewhere and they had just paid paid a new road
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: and my mom was talking about how like, oh man,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: this road is awful. Beforehand, he had no idea what
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: this road was. Like, I literally looked there was like
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you can't really talk to me about this
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Is like have you seen because like.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: We've seen like insane roads. Oh yeah, okay, maybe it
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: wasn't that bad. It's like, no, it probably wasn't that bad.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It's a paved road Canada.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really nice, very much.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: So that was kind of funny. It just like I
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: think that was weird as well, is coming back and
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: realizing like how much we've got done and experienced and
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: just being like, oh wow, so much life still happened
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: while we were doing this as well, like a very
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: one that this is a weird one. But coming back
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: in like we have nieces and nephews, yeah, and like
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: when we left, like they're still like babies.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Well, your youngest niece was literally like three months old
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: and we left.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's like we came back and I'm like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: you're a little person.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Like she celebrated her first birthday like a month after
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: we got home.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: It was so weird.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: So it's weird to be like you can stand up
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and do stuff with your eyes. Yeah, that was weird,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: even just coming back and be like, oh, well, I
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: just did all of this, but this is kind of
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a funny one. But like realizing that nobody else realizes
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you just did this because obviously you're not just like
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: you know, have banner that says.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Hey, I just yeah, like no one knows that you
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: did this incredible journey, and like they're just doing this
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: thing and you're like, yeah, cool.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I remember. It was even funny when we got to
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: the u Shuwa I took the final point where it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: like the photo op that everybody does. I remember we
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: got there and we pulled in and it was like, wow,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: this big accomplishment. Right when he pulled in, like five
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: to R buses pulled in behind us. So we're kind
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: of like having a little bit of moment just kind
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: of like standing look at the signe and like people
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: came like kind of like pushed us out of the
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: waist they could get a photo by the sign. Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: we were standing there, and I was like, that's true.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: We just drove here, and like no one really even
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: understands that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I was just kind of huh, it's kind of neat that,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: like this is such a small detail. Yeah, but like
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: no one is aware that this was just nine months
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: of our life to get to this one point yet
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: where they drove like forty five minutes.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: It was just kind of funny to be like, oh man,
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: that's such a weird. Yeah, I think because that was
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: such a big thing for us obviously. Yeah, well for
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: other people it's like, oh, you probably don't even really
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: think about this, right, So it's just kind of funny
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: in that sense.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: One little thing for me that was kind of like
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: a thing I was so excited about that I'm never
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: excited about is washing dishes in a sink with running.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Water that's hot.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, because we had a tiny little like the collapse
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: will Bin that I'd washed dishes and then almost always
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: the water was cold, like I'm not even cleaning these properly,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: but whatever, camping all the time. But yeah, I was
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: so excited to wash dishes in our sink at home.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: I'm like, this is so weird that this tiny, little
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: simple thing that most people like hate doing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I love this. I get to do this now.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: We had the same experience, and our family members were like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: we have It's okay, you can put them in the dishwasher. Yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, yeah, why would I do that
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: when I'm hot water exactly?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: And I still have a hard time not wearing the
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: same clothes every day.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Oh same.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: I went like a few days without like washing my hair,
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: and I remember your mom commented on it, and I
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: was like, oh, yeah, I can wash my hair more often.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I can do that, I can shower more.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: I have more than three shirts right right, Yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I still wear the same clothes whenever I'm doing anything
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: on the cars because I still have not learned that
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to change into.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: Work clothes, right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's very funny.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: That's not going to change.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Overall, it just made us more grateful for all the
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: awesome things we have our dispose of living in Canada.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: So like running water, hot water, toilet.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just like infrastructure, just like all the stuff like
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: you're just really grateful for it all.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: It's like simple little things like even this one was
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: kind of funny as well, but uh, after Vanessa got
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: sick in Mexico as oh, we'll find it like an
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: electrolyte powder.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that doesn't exist.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: You could not find them anywhere because we literally.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Looked in every country. I think we found it once
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: in maybe Peru.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Like you could get like PENI late like them.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: You can get like gatorade powder mixed or whatever. So
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: it's kind of funny because you're like, this is just
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: a thing I've never thought of being a luxury, but yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I guess other places don't have.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: This is not common.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like little things like that, even like
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: being able to drink the water. Yeah, yeah, it's still
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: weird to where like because obviously in Canada, like you
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: can drink tap water, but the amount of times where
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh I need to get filled this but
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, I can just do that. Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I don't need to seek out a water source that's safe. Yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: that's kind of funny. Still still having a hard time
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: with that. It's just like little things that have gotten
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: like you got so accustomed to that are not normal
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: in all of the world.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, Yeah, what a weird feeling. Yeah, but yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: really grateful, I'm sure too. Yeah, yeah, definitely, it is
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: nice that feeling that you're like, oh, I can just
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: have I can have a shower, yeah, whenever I want.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: It's weird you feel the showers are so and frequent sometimes. Yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: that or like a proper toilet can be.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Hit or miss.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, going home, I'm experiencing that right
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: now too. Toning back from from Spain as well, I'm like, wait,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: i can just wash my hair like whenever.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's funny as well, because I think that I've realized
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: it is getting home. I shower way faster now, yeah, because.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Like I'll just get in.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like okay, yeah, like minute and a half, everything's done.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we have hot water that lasts
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: longer than a minute and a half mm hmm.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: So it's we're sitting on our water bill though.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's just kind of fun.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I just realized that the other day where I was like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I'm way faster at this than I used to.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Having a process now yeah, so good. Yeah, that's just
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: little things and the value of water.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, you think about yes, you think about
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: every drop and you're like, oh no, I'm not just
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: sleeping the tap on now.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Because you're like, well for the last year, like, we
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: have twenty meters of water until we can find more water,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: so we have to save.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Every ounce of this.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny to get used to in the
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: very beginning, saving saving the water.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: You get one of those the missing bottles.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we met somebody who had that and
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: had them on like this is going to save us
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: so much.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, excuse it. Wash dishes.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: It's great dishes and toothbrushes.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I love that, right, and when it's hot, you can
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Were there any hacks that you picked up besides the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: spray bottle on the road or do you think.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: There's a few so.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: One was a pea bottle.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like an uncolm like unspoken thing that everyone has.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, a bottle that you just pee into.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I still use that at home.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: He does, and I'm like, you don't need to do
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that anymore. But toilet.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: One that we learned because we didn't have.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Like air condition or anything.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: We just had a fan.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so one tip that we learned where if you're
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: in a very hot climate and you don't have like
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: airflow or whatever, is if you take just like a
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: top sheet and you miss the top sheet down so
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: it's slightly damp, and then have a fan on you,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: it cools the top of the sheet and.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Therefore cools you.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you want to wear as little as possible,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: so basically just like underwear naked if you can, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: it basically slightly cools you, Yeah, but not to the
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: point where you're freezing. But even if there's just like
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a slight wind at all, it cools it enough.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So that was a big one.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: We use that a lot. When we were in.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Orld Embassy, we use that too.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Coachreaking Panama. It was they had like a heat,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: don't It was the hottest it had been in like
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: thirty years, so it was it was a lot.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: It was hot.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: So that helped insane amount. So that was very nice. Yeah,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: And I'm trying to think of what else.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I actually turned up. I'm sure there's more. There's not
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: coming to my head right now.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: This great, Yeah for sure. So coming back to Canada,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: what would you say that you would want Canadians to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: know about this trip and the people you met along
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the way or what.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: You saw.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I had, I would say, like because everyone always especially
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: like when people talk about Mexico, like, oh, it's so dangerous,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: like you're driving through Mexico, like people, there's a lot
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: more good people out there than people assume, and like
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: what you hear from the media or whatever, Like we
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: didn't run to any trouble with people on our trip,
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Like we were very lucky to not have been robbed
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: or anything like that, but like everyone was so Yeah,
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: everyone was so kind and that like other overlanders we
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: met to were in the same boat as us, but
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: like everyone was so kind. The locals always are just
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: like they're just curious, like what.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Are you doing? Like you're from Canada? Was this but
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: with the language barrier a lot of times, like we
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: drove here from Canada and that's all I could say that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I like, I forget where I heard this, but I
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: really liked and I found once we kind of started
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: to like realize this and like lived like this, it
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: helped a lot. Was only one percent of the world
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: is truly evil and not nine.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Percent of the world is actually kind.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you you everyone that you come in
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: contact with is being truly kind. You let down a
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: lot of walls, and when you have your walls down,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: other people let their walls down. Yeah, because most people
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: don't actually want to harm you or anything. Yeah, even
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of times when things happen, it's because people
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: are in rough situations, but they're not actually truly evil people.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: So when you kind of start like view like that,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: that helped a tone as well as a big one
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: that I realized was in like when we were in
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Mexico and when we broke down, that was when a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: lot of like heavy cartel stuff was going on. There
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: was I think it was alkhop with Sun was arrested
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all happening in Sineloa.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: So like I remember when we were in Baja, we
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: met a couple there and they're like, do not go
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: to mainland Mexico, Like that's the stupidest thing you could
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: ever do. And we're like leaving on the ferry the
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: next day.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, well, look good, we're going anywhere.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: And then I remember I had like clients and friends
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: like all sending his articles on stuff that was going on,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: and we were like, oh man, like this is this
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: is gonna be a lot. Where it was funny is
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: when we left and we're in mainline Mexico. You if
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: you didn't tell us something was happening, we'd have had
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: no idea, And it really made us realize whre it's.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Oh the stuff that you see posted is way more
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: than what you think it is. Yeah, because even it
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: was funny because that was what we initially noticed. And
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: then nearing the end of our trip, there's a lot
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: of wildfires back like in our hometown, and it was
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: kind of funny because I remember seeing like on Instagram
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: and articles and whatever, like how bad these fires were.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I remember like calling my parents and calling the guys
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I work with, like, oh you guys, okay, like how
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: bad is it? Like we're fine, Like yeah, there's some fires,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: but they're not that close to us, so just be like, oh, well,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: from like stuff on like Instagram and online, it looks
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: like all those vcs just a ball of flames. Well
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: there's some, but it's not that close. Oh okay, maybe
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: that's not exactly what it seems. So the stuff that
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: you hear might not always be exactly what it is.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, it a little bit more.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember living in Vancouver and I think it
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: was after a hockey game or something. This is so Canadian,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: oh my goodness, actually ridiculous. But I think there were riots.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and we lived right downtown at that time,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Looked like the entire city was on fire. I thought.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember there was a
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: famous photo of this girl like laying in the street
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and some guy kissing her. I know you're anyway, So yeah,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: It was one street. Yeah, but it looked like the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: entire Vancouver was just a mess.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's an important lesson to learn. I think
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty common one, and try if traveled anywhere.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Really it's different than you think it's going to be
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: or you've heard.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just like, use common sense if you are scared
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: of running into trouble or stuff like that.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Don't go into the sketchy Dirk alleyway that night. Yeah good.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Don't think something doesn't feel right, trust that it's not
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: a big deal.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Just to leave and go somewhere else.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've done that. We're like this camp sit did
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: the same, Right, We're gonna go find somewhere else exactly.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of funny. Like the point that you
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: just SAIDs well is I think that, like I realized
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: as well, people would hear something, Oh, this is happening
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: in Well to say, Mexico's next is all super dangerous.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: This is happening like seen a law, Like do you
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: know how.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Big Mexico is a big country?
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Like Para in cans Oh, this is happening in Toronto.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I live on the West coast, Like, yeah, it takes
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: me a week to get there, or like opposite ends
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: of the US. Yeah, really doesn't affect me because I'm
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: very far from that.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but people just hear like, oh so it's all
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: of it then, Yeah, but generalization exactly.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like countries are bigger than just one town.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. I know you guys are back home now,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: But what would you want to tell the people that
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you had met about Canada? Oh? I know it's so hard.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this recently and I literally didn't. I
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: couldn't think of anything. So I hope this would be
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a perfect question.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: That's really funny. I feel like everyone has a good
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: idea of Canada already that we met.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's something they don't know or yeah, it could
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: be a misconception or something that I don't know. It
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: could be something that's close to your heart about Canada
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that you want to share with other people.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: It could be that too.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: There's less snow overall than what people.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets pretty hot where we live.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: It does, like it gets like into like the high thirties.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there like degrees fahrenheit.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, on degrees fahrenheit isn't uncommon, correct, And yes, in
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: the winter, like we still get a lot of snow,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: but we have seasons.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: It's not just we don't live in ilus. We've been
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: asked that before. Yeah, yeah I don't.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Not.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Everybody in Canada plays hockey. Yeah, there are importants everywhere.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Hords is everywhere, and it's it's not bad. Yeah it's
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: not great, but it's not bad.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Canadian cuisine isn't really a big thing. There's poutine and yeah,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: m bars, Nimo bars, those are the big things we
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: would tell people. Butter tarts, butter tarts.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's more of a global kind of food scene here,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I would say than some very specific, yeah, generalized kind
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of Canadian cuisine.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: I actually I had to google what was like Canadian
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: food because one of.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Our friends asked us on the trip. Yeah, and it's like,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: I actually don't know. I don't think it's poutine, but yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: it's like.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: What's a Canadian dish? Like I don't I don't really
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: know what's a Canadian dish.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I think split pea soup or something like that was
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: a Canadian thing on the list. I was like, I
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: didn't know that. Okay, something like that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Like lobster on the East coasting, yeah, or yeah, I'll say.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: As well, Like Canada is way bigger than you'd expect,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: and a lot of the things that people know about
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Canada are essentially the coast. Like people have heard of
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Vancouver and they've heard of Toronto, and yes, both very
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: beautiful cities, but there's a lot beside just those, Like
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: we're about like six hours from Vancouver and people have
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: no idea where that is. And it's like gorgeous, Like
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: we love in the Wine Country.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: There's lakes everywhere, can go skiing in the winter, biking.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: In the summer.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Like it's a very like outdoor active community, which is
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: really cool. So I feel like people again like that
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: that misconception of like Canada's always winter where it's only
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: in winter for part of the year. Yeah, and it's
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: way bigger and there's way more like wild Latin than
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: what people think true, Like I feel that's even like honestly,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: like being from Canada, I feel like I often forget.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: That or I'm like, all right, there's a lot of
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: trees here and it goes on for a very long way.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Because even I was talking to somebody the other day
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: about like Prince George BC. Yeah, and people that's northern BC.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the map, that's like kind
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: of rettle. There's a lot more above that. But people
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: forget how big Canada is. Like even some like BC,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's almost the distance of driving see to
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Alaska or like from the like the US border to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Alaska through BC. That's almost the same distance as driving
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: across Canada.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's like driving from BC to Toronto or
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: Like it's people don't wow, yeah, yeah, because like you
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: look at it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: On a map and you're like, oh, like that's pretty small,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: but maps aren't accurate.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Exercizing sure, so it's way bigger.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Than what people expect.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: It is. I think that we calculated like the distance
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: between I might I might be getting this wrong. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: swear it was Montana to Tac Tooyac Tuk, I believe,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: and it was the same distance from was it Montana
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: to Mexico City?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Oh wow?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy right, So yeah, it's there's a lot
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: of north.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, north.
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: I remember, this is what surprises.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize how big Mexico was when we left, Yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: because I remember we got our oil changed in California
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: and I was okay, we should be good for a while,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: and we weren't even like out of Mexico before.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: I had to do it again.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we were like in the loom when you did that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: So. Yeah, that was again where we're like, oh cool,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: this is a very big country and we now have
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: a very little time to get.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Through all of this.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll come back.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: So we're definitely going to do Mexico again.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Mexico is a bit fast.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was way too fast.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Do you have any plans, future plans, dreams, upcoming trips.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: We're going to stay home for a bit and probably.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Work for a bit. Both definitely dreams and some plans.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so I'll say yes to kind of all
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: of those. Yeah, so we need to work for a
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: little bit now, Yeah, Poco work truck is hurting a
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: You need some work.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to swap the engine in the transmission
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: this winter, and then our plan is to finish the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: PanAm and drive up to northern Alaska enough to tuck. Yeah,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: so we'll see how fixing everything goes on the truck is.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: There's quite a lot that needs to be donated to.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Change a lot did some damage, so.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: We're going to do that, and then we start talking
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: about potentially shipping the truck somewhere else.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: For a different vehicle. We don't know, we're.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Potentially different vehicle. We're not really sure.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've talked about shipping it maybe over to
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Europe or to Africa and then going around there.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we'll kind of see.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: There's a few things that are kind of in the
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: talk mm hmm or in the works, but we'll see
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: what we end up landing on. But there's plans to
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: definitely travel more after this.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: So this trip obviously got its claws in you and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you're eager to go back out definitely.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely. When we left, like oh yeah, this
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: is like all we'll do and then we'll be fine.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like oh want and done. That's it, and
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: like nope, I want to go back. I miss it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like honestly, before we were even like halfway done
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: more trip, like oh yeah, we can definitely do this longer,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: like you could.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Definitely we can go out of places.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: So we like to go through Asia. I really want
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: to go travel through Africa. Yeah, Europe was also very cool.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of the world to see.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you missed from
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the road?
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: I miss like the people we met, Like it's just
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: so like organical at times, like oh you pull up
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: the same camp spot you found an eye overlander and.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Like oh, like where are you from? Like what are you?
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Where are you driving to? And it's really cool just
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: making connections all as people.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: I love the simplicity as well.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, where it's just there's.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Nothing because again, like I said, like our build was
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: very simple, So I was like, I like that there
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: wasn't a ton you have to think about.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that all of our possessions were just there.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's kind of nice to it, Oh, we're
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: gonna go do this, like okay, well this is here,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: this is there, yeah, and basically like all of our
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: belongings are in arm reach, yeah, which is nice. And
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: just realizing truly how little we need.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: To be happy, definitely, and like everything that is happening
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: in the moments all we really need to worry about,
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: because like when we're back home, we think of like, oh,
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: this is happening in like a few months with the
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: plant forlis or whatever, like all this stuff going on
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: at once, but one y're on the road, it's just like, oh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: we don't have to worry about what we're doing today
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: and yeah, maybe tomorrow what we're doing, but like you
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: don't think too hard.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: You're gonna eat and what you're gonna do, yeah, and
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: maybe we're you're gonna get fuel or water or exactly shower.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: It doesn't go beyond that, though, which is so nice.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And I love the fact that it's, oh you
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: can just go yeah, oh well we'll see toy set
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: food and we'll just go there. You probably find water soon.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I just liked the idea that you just didn't really
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: have to think that much.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of a radical way to live
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: right in these times. Yeah, everything is so fast and
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: complex or so much going on or so much stimulation,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: you're always thinking about all the little things exactly. So
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: it's really refreshing to have that change in simplicity, isn't it. Yeah.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: It's nice as well just to kind of just realize that.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Like a question that I got asked a lot when
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: we got home was, oh, what did you miss the
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: most from like having a home? I was like, nothing, really,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Like we had everything we needed and because we had
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: people on that must have been off on the having
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: a shower, not having a bathroom, we're having TV.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Or Wi Fi or what kind of embrace being a
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: dirt egg, Like.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: I know both Vanessa and I would agree we're like
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: dirt bigs to our course, So we're like, this is
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: kind of just nice that we can be like this.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Funny because again realize like we really don't need that much.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: And even we got home, we're like, oh, we can
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: get rid of a lot of stuff. We don't need
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: any of this.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Well that's the best. Yeah, we perched so much. We
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: go home. I still want to purge more stuff.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're still working through stuff.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just did that recently. Also went to our
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: storage locker. Yeah, don't need this, don't need this, don't
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: need this. Yeah, it felt amazing some of that stuff.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Because that was even where it was funny is because
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: I found like living in the truck as Wolf, people
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: were like, oh man, you probably have like used everything,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: but there's so many things when like things are entire
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: trip was like, we can get rid.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Of this, we don't need this, really doesn't even touch
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: this this whole trip. What do we thought we needed?
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: What did you get rid of the trucker from our house?
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: From the truck like when you started out?
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure. Oh man, I'm trying to remember
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: now because well we I'm not mad about this, but
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: we had like way over built our electrical system because
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: like we need to prepared for everything, right, Yeah, we
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: had way more than what we needed. Yeah, so that
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: was totally fine, but definitely could have gone simpler on that.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: We definitely could have simplified a lot of things. Yeah,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: because there's things that I feel like we thought way
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: farther into can we need this, this and this? Yeah,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: we didn't need any of that.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's easy to overthink when you're planning because you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: don't really know sometimes exactly. Even on the second trip,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you may find that you're also overthinking, or pack too
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: much stuff, or don't pack the right stuff exactly.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: But those are the things I feel like we had.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: It's honestly just like a lot of like like odds
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: and ends. It wasn't anything like.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Big our NESSO tent was a big That was.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: A big thing that we bought that we didn't really use.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: It's like a portable like tent you can just like
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: take onto the beach and it was like a nice
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: little shade.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: It's basically like a portable awning maybe to set it
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: up anywhere. Yeah, and we saw somebody who had one,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago traveling. This isn't genius
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: we need this.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's great for when you're on the beach all
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: day and don't have a vehicle with you that has
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: it awning.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: But because that was the thing we bought it, we
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: used it and it was like it's big. It's like
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: sens of like a douffle bit.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: It's huge.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Let me have this when we use did But it
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: was definitely like we should probably use this because we
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: brought this all the way here.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: We made ourselves to use it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: We had an awning on the truck. In ninety percent
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: of the time, you're right next to your vehicle or
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: close to your vehicle if you're hanging out, so we're like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: we can just set this up and that works well.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: We also bought the Naso tent, and we didn't think
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: we could install an awning onto the camp tech. But
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you you dia wied something to make it work. So
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I'm like, why we have now just for fun?
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: And then what was the other thing that we brought.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: We I carried a lot of extra fluids, Like, yeah,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: have enough to fix what you need, but like we
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: had like multiple gallons of everything.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: You bought a lot of transmission fluid after.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, after we broke the transmission, I was paranoid. So
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I just bought a lot of it. Yeah, and we
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: didn't need any of it, no, but we were prepared
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what masters.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: So there's kind of like little things like even thinking
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: like we brought a lot more clothes than what we
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: thought we needed.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're the same, like three shirts, Like it's rotated
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: through them exactly.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: So it could have definitely simplified a lot of our
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: wardrobe because you wear the same thing all the time.
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then it could have brought proper layers for the cold,
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: because we stupidly didn't bring like proper, like warm down jackets.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I didn't bring a jacket at all.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: You had your atom jacket, your ar turks out of jacket.
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: But that's really light that it's not very warm.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Because I think people should know that are listening. There's
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: a thing called seasons that exist in other parts of
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: When it's summer in North America, it's winter in South America.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the equator's changed, So we basically chased winter
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: through the last year and a half. And yeah, that
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: wasn't super fun. We're s wearing a hoodie. Yeah, So
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: definitely planned where you're going to be and when you're
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: going to be there in the weather of what's going
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: to happen.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: We also didn't know when we left ten years ago
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: that there are high elevations in Mexico.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And in really cold all of a sudden.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: We also didn't we didn't have puffies, we didn't really
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: bring jackets, were wearing hoodies all over the place, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: we were freezing and didn't have proper gear exactly the
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: same reason as you guys, which seems ridiculous now looking
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: back at my you know, decade a decade ago from bloodstones.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Because really, oh how much will we use this?
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: We won't, Like you should bring hiking boots to the
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: freaking volcano hiking Guatemala, and we didn't.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Bloodstones in our feet. Were very mad.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I hate the volcano barefoots. I was wearing birkenstocks.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: No, that was what we're walking down to, like to Ecuador.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Don't do that. That sucks those like little things. We're like, okay,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: really really think through everything that you need in the
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: purpose why.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: You need it, right, that's the big thing.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: You don't need a ton, but just make sure everything
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: that you have has a purpose.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good advice, good, I love it.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everything should have multiple purposes.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that too.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Took a Swiss army knife. You wanted to do like
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: at least two to twelve things?
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, offah, I think that was the big ones. Yeah.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Perfect, Yeah, one more question and then well we'll wrap
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: it up and you guys can continue on your merry way.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: What are your favorite books.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Tell me to go first. My favorite book is The Alchemist.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: So I read that. This is actually kind of funny
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the way that this work is. I have kind of
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: like a theory if something gets brought up to me
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: multiple times, and I usually do this, like the Series
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: of Three. If it gets brought by three times by
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: three different people, whether it's people or it comes up
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: in a movie or whatever, I'm like, that's the universe
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: or whatever telling me that I should look into this.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: And I remember the way this came up is if
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Nasa and I had gone traveling five years ago and
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: that book kept getting brought up to me, I was like, okay,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I want to get it. And it was the day
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: we were leaving and I was like, crap, I don't
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: have time to run the bookstore, shoot whatever. And I
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: remember we were flying me had a layover and during
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: her layover as like, I'm just gonna go to the
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: gift shop, like if they have the book there, I'll
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: just buy it. If it's under twenty bucks, I'll buy it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: And it was funny because literally it was in the
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: center of the stand, like at the very top of it,
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: like it was like the key book that they were
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: like showcasing and it was nineteen seventy five, so I
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: was like, I guess I'm buying this And I have
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: read that book multiple times.
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  Speaker 4: Is by far my favorite book.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm awful at reading, and that's the only book
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: I've ever actually been like fully engrossed in where I
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: was like, I can't stop reading this, I need to
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: just keep going. H So that's my favorite book personally.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a huge book reader, but I'll say
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: a book that I've been really enjoying that I brought
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: on her trip is it's called Why Is No One
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: taught told me this before? And it's it's like a
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: self help book, but it's just more of like the
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: psychologist going over like common like mechanisms you can use
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: in your life to help you if you're struggling with
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: anxiety or whatever it is. And it's just really helpful,
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: especially on this trip with like all the different stuff
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: happening and everything constantly changing, like you feel nervous, you
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: feel stressed, or whatever you're feeling. And it was just
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: really nice having these tools at my hands that I
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: could just like refer back to and just like feel
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: like it's okay. You're gonna go through this and it'll
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: be fine kind of.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: This is great audio books. There's a lot of audiobooks too.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one. That one was nice though, because it
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: was one of those things as well, was like there's
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: obviously the stresses of being on the road, yeah, stresses
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: of like family at home.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and based like just like life in general.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, this is like a lot of like time
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: just to think and be like, Okay, how can I
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: help myself in these situations?
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's quite beneficial.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: It's a big like self growth time as well, because
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: obviously you're forcing yourself in doing a comfortable.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you have to change when you're going through
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: all this stuff.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: And you start to learn, my opinion, you start to
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: learn your outside of your comfort zone. Yeah, and pretty
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: much this entire trip.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Is outside of your comfort ye ni percent.
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's huge for that sense. Is you can
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: grow a lot as a person completely.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very cool, very very cool. Yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: The most recent thing that I've kind of experienced is
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: more like overwhelm of seeing so many things but not
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: necessarily digesting or reflecting. Yeah, definitely, So having that time
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: to really absorb, yeah.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: And reflect.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's easier said than done because you're just
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: seeing things every single day, every single day, every single day,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: something new, something new. When you're like researching the place
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: you're going and you want to learn about the history
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: and you want to learn about the food and you
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: want to talk to the people, and it's actually really
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: it's a lot.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Yet and you have to like plan ahead or else,
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: like you'll show up and be like, I have no
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: idea what to do right now.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: It was funny because even like I was talking to
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: a client the other day, and it was funny because
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: like the conversation like free diving got brought up, and
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I got into free diving and I was like, oh, yeah, this,
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: and one of the guys.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: I worked with is like, why have you told us that?
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, I forgot about that till literally right now,
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: because I was like, that's just again, it's one moment
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: out of entire like section of like your life, and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, was that in the Sinote in Mexico?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, basically almost drowned in the suit.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: I don't listen to rules very well.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Did something stupid and they're okay, I'm just gonna.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I brought it up.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: So there was an underwater tunnel that basically went from
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: one snow tape down quite a ways and then it
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: was like under water you could go out and there
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: was another snowdown on the other side. Yeah, that we
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: weren't allowed to go to.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: You're curious, though, you want to curious.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, well, I want to go, like
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: just see like what it looks like inside the cave.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: So swam down, swam into it, and I said okay,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: and then I looked back and I was way farther
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: in than I thought I was in, So I said, okay,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: well I have to go to the other side. So
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: to swim up the other side popped up. I was like, wait,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be here. So I panicked and
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: just like took quick breath and went back down and
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: swam down to go back to the other side. And
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: then I was like, shoot, you didn't really take a
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: breath when you were on the other side.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's pretty scary.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: I honestly, I definitely started to block out and I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: just have to keep going and hopefully just make it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: the surface.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Thankfully I did, and it was okay, but that was
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: not a fun experience.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I don't recommend that.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't recommend that. Don't go something through caves.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: That's very I'm not a guy at least if you're
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't do it. It's a very bad idea.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: But thankful it was okay, but it was a very
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: close call.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, intense really just thinking about it now because.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: That was the story I forgot about until like two
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: days ago.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: Soon brought it up.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of inpute.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Going on every day. Yeah, every day.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of input, So if people want to find
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: you guys online, where can they find you?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: So we're mostly on Instagram and we have a YouTube channel,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: but it's just destined for wild as on all of
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: our socials.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: I believe that's us on everything, Yeah, destined for a while.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: We have Facebook toa but we don't really post on
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: it very much. By stay Instagram and our YouTube channel.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to post more on YouTube, but it just
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: like it's so much content to go through and everything.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to keep up on it. But for sure
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: with us working now too, I'm like, oh my gosh, editing.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: On the road when we left, man, we'll do a
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: video every week.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that lasted one week I think, and they're like,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: this is so much work to do a video. Yeah,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: it definitely fell behind.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: There's videos coming that are backdated a lot because.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: There it's a lot more work than people think.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely that's coming though.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great, stay tuned. There'll be more on YouTube coming.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. Yes,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: And if listeners want to check out your land cruiser. Yes,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: there's also an article on Expedition Portal, a feature interior
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: article that outlines what kinds of things you guys have
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: in your drawers and when you broad and some gear
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and get a little bit of more info on your
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: on your builds.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: So that's what they're will.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: Say as well.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: Anybody who has like questions about it or questioned the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: strip or just anything in general, always feel free. Investors
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: on Instagram, I love talking about this stuff he does,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: and again have researched this way too much. So anybody
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: has questions, I'd love to help out or possible.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so pay forward, Yeah, pay forward to.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: Help other people do what they need.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Perfect, Well, thank you guys so much for taking the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: time to come and chat with me on the Overland
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Journal podcast. And yeah, I look forward to seeing what's
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: next for you guys.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you thanks for in finding us. Yeah awesome.
• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:40
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