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Why France Is The Main Candidate To Win The World Cup · Sports Illustrated FC

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Friends, I'll lead the way to the semi-final, but let me introduce our beautiful Dutch voice.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Great yeah, enjoying me the football as always.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like France have done enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, they have that's full time now too Neil to the French so they go through to the semifinals our first semifinalist
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, our face, them, in finalists, and probably, probably, we're saying with the least, the main candidate to win this work up, we need to say, we need to see if Spain deliver, if England are going to deliver, but guys, they would ask, be patient, because if Steve would ask, because we are in a special special occasion, because today we are here, probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's because there was a man before us, a special man, a special journalist, a work class, and today we're here to remember Grumble, one of the probably most important soccer journalists in this country stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an understatement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for those who don't know Grant Wall, was a long time writer at Sports Illustrated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the leading voice for soccer coverage, men's and women's in America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's up until 2022 when he tragically passed away while covering the World Cup in Qatar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He collapsed in the press box during a good during a match and died of an aneurysm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a tragedy for a lot of different reasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant was a fantastic journalist, a fantastic writer, and first and foremost, he was a great person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And part of that was,
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[SPEAKER_00]: His ability to build connections and help grow awareness and grow for the sport of soccer slash football Everywhere around the world and and grants great great gifts to Readers of sports illustrator for years at the in soccer fans in general was his ability to not just talk about what happened on the pitch and he would analyze this game with the best of them
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about what in Mop A did, what that Belly did to score their goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was more about the way soccer brought people together and build connections and he was the way sport really builds community around the globe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really at the forefront of what Grant brought to his soccer coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's missed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been thinking a lot about him during this World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A World Cup in the United States would have been what was his dream to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would have been great to have his voice on any number of topics during this World Cup, that I'm sure you guys have all discussed in depth, but we are not just we as sports illustrated, we in media business, but just soccer fans in general around the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been thinking a lot about grant these last few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember your first meeting?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a person on the main?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you have loads of memories.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But do you remember a memory in particular about him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Grant Grant arrived in magazine as a fact-tracker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same way I arrived at the magazine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to say the year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a long, long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I think what stood out to all of us about Grant from the very beginning was not just what a great guy he was, he was a very social guy, he was like I said he was a people connector.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was also really, really talented in my first reaction as it got to know him and saw some of his early work was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I better become an editor because I'm not going to be able to write like that every there that that's going to be just going to be tough He said a really good standard a really high standard not just with soccer coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a great college basketball writer a lot of people don't know this, but he wrote the Famous an iconic cover story about LeBron James when LeBron James was 17 years old and we did date.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We named him chosen one
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant made an impact well beyond the soccer world, but I think from a very young age as sports players clear how talented he was, how passionate he was for Great Journalism, for doing great work in general, and that's what stood out to me for the first day of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, Leah, I'm sure it's curious about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I was reading about him, 2002, he pitched a story, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to write about these guys, Basque, Basque, and Lebron James.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And do you remember how he pitched the story and what happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it was, I think, even, it seemed silly to talk about now because we know who LeBron James became.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At that time, I'm going to get this wrong, but I think only two or three high school athletes had been on the cover of SI, you know, in the previous 25 years or something that it was a huge deal to take that leap on the type of athlete that hadn't quite proven himself yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant lobbied for that story, the same way he lobbied for a lot of what he did, which was a great passion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be very forceful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What he wanted to be, when it was whether he was fighting for something he believed in, and I was a story he believed in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He carried that same sort of approach, and that instinct to, I remember when he covered the wounds were up, I think, for the first time, and probably the early 2000s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had to really lobby hard and convince the editorial leadership here at Sports Illustrated at the time that that was an event that we should send someone across the globe to to cover He was really a visionary when it came to not just soccer, but specifically women soccer and how it was going to grow and take over in this country
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the they impact the adults in the movement in telling the story of woman soccer in the U.S. and probably what what yeah I think I think he was he had a huge impact in just demonstrating A. I would tell him and how good they were he had them at the good fortune to cover Tina what multiple multiple multiple women's world cups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But more important, I think he really brought home for an American audience, the passion of the game, the things that you guys take for granted as soccer fans, outside of the U.S. that I think were more aware of now, but 25 years ago, when Grant started being less-drome for soccer in this country, people weren't aware, and the idea that this is more than a game, more than something that happens just on the pitch to people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a cultural moment, this is a
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are events that bind families and bind communities and bind countries together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant really did a really nice job of bringing that sense of passion in that sense of community to all this coverage of the sport.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This was a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was about a lot more than just the nuts and bolts of soccer on the pitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He also had a fear sense of social justice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a strong belief in what he felt was right, what was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was an outspoken critic of FIFA and FIFA leadership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He famously ran for FIFA president one year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was to kind of make a statement on some of the directions where he thought he was going, I would have loved to hear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: have heard Grant's voice during this World Cup, as I said, on a lot of topics, but especially with the topics that have followed up in the last few weeks about how FIFA leadership has approached her with situations on an elephant bench.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And for the one asking, who is this man, Slipplenella, Eddie Torring, Chief of Sports and Silla straight as a guy, so, and what did you think when he came to you and he said, I want to run for FIFA?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you're probably not going to win, though I think what he was trying to do there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He knew he wasn't going to win that, but he wanted to make a statement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think about the idea that FIFA probably needed some new leadership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew approach to things, a little bit more transparency on how they approach any number of issues going into Qatar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Green was very outspoken.
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[SPEAKER_00]: around human rights issues and the way workers who helped both the stadiums in Qatar where we're treated in the years before the event.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant had a lot on his mind beyond, as I said, beyond just soccer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He realized that the sport of soccer touches any number of issues around the globe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wasn't surprised when he had the idea to run for FIFA President.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was kind of right up his alley is a way to draw attention to the things that he felt really passionate about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was impressive, like, if I'm not mistaken, the first cover was West Daddy, and the last piece he wrote in his new letter, they just don't care talking about the sword that works in Qatar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's look at it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any question, any curiosity about this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: questions growing up in the U.S. and being such a big football fan grant while with someone I always heard about or always read his pieces or always saw him be almost like a feature on certain shows that I would be watching he was the guy that had that U.S. boys that people from other countries would go to to hear his opinion especially when it came to all things about the sport in this country so he was always a prominent name growing up and watching and I just
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I can remember the kind of fallout when he passed away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately, at the last World Cup, it was a huge loss to the community hundred percent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So glad that we have the chance to remember him four years later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ruka.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All of you were telling me before that it was a big ball cup, an Atlantic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How many well-copeditions did he cover?
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[SPEAKER_04]: State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe his first World Cup was 1998.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we would have covered every World Cup from 1998 until he passed in 2022.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm most focused on our user that he did bolstered as well as he.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think football is the last soccer or definitely his favorite sport he was passionate about college basketball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's actually we started out writing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe if a non-mastake and he was first exposed to soccer or a little soccer, I think he was in college and he was studying in South America for a while and I think he was the Argentinian to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's sort of fell in love with, again, not just the game, all the field, but the passion of the fans there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got to see real grass roots, South American, Southern, and he fell in love with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm Eisen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what kind of soccer culture uh, he left, I would say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of soccer culture you found and what sort of kind of soccer culture you left?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this where we're going to start talking about the U.S. too?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, after the break, after the break, we're coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think he left behind as Zagar audience in the United States, specifically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just far more far smarter about the sport.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it was when he first started covering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: far more aware of what the sport means, far more aware of how the sport works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's the single biggest voice in the last generation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been a lot of steps toward making America more of a soccer country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the legacy he left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He helped bring some mainstream awareness to a sport that when he started covering, was still largely out of a mainstream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and for you, as a guy, since when you were when you started, and when unfortunately he passed away, did you see a change?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, of the soccer cartel that you ask about the change that I saw even.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Outside of that right like just from growing up to by the time I left and opting in and coming back to see where it's at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bit of huge shift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when we watch the game against Belgium you hold with that there's more of a shift.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at then of the day I think you have to realize like Steve said that where this sport was in the 90s right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was since such its infancy that we're playing catch up with the rest of the world right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to find that you can get to this point right here, it's like oh my word like we've done well enough
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[SPEAKER_01]: the whole past to be that eventually we we we kind of get there but as Steve say in the last 20 30 years it's been a big it's been a big embrace.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks Leah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks Steve.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like we're going to be back now we're going to go in a break on supposed to illustrate that we are going to go our beautiful Dutch voice done what did you get first?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we're taking a break on SITV, we're still here on YouTube with you all.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been really special to reflect on Grant and pointy and that it comes in the quarter final stage of this tournament just like it was in Qatar four years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: 24 years at Sports Illustrated over 50 cover stories, covered eight men's fee for world cups.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned the Lebron James cover story which was iconic, the Beckham experiment as well as another one, his best selling book.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He was certainly a leading voice in American soccer, that's for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he would have loved this tournament, I'm sure of that as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How are you enjoying it, Steve?
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's been the highlight for you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is an amazing tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when I was here, right the, was at the first day of the tournament or second day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we were all sort of, I'm pins and needles looking to see how things were going to work out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And where I think, I think we've all been blown away by this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the quality of the play has been incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think many of us who may have been uninformed felt with 48 teams, we would see kind of more of a dull, grudge stage and a lot of blowouts and some of them in equal competition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't see that at all and we've seen great play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen the biggest stars on the planet, be playing like the biggest stars on the planet, which is what you want to see on a grand stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think across the country, we've seen
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great passion, not just from American fans, but I think seeing fans were around the world coming here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, this, yeah, the tartan army, the Norwegians, the nomadalans, these groups of fans that are sort of really, really shown American fans a finger to about what true sports passion means.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been incredible to watch it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a lot of fun for everyone here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's been a fantastic tournament.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned the Netherlands.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't almost forgot something we were in this tournament, actually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's nice to have a lot of fun too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we are back, we are back on this ITV, Steve, favorite fandom for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: favorite fandom of the world cup, wow that's a tough one, I think I'm going to go with Norway, all they because I am incredibly impressed by their organizational skills, they, they're they're their choreography is great and for a relatively small country that at least you don't think of as having a huge presence in the states, their numbers have been incredible and I know a lot of them have traveled here, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I happen to be at one of the games in New York, a few weeks ago at Senegal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that those weren't all travelers from Norway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: These were, these were American Norwegians coming out of the woodwork.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's not either incredibly fun to watch, but they've been as a fanbase to have been from the watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Luca, Luca, I know you're becoming more and more wonderful guy, right?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why it's a scar.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I always love the voice.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's not for me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Champagne Super, no, come on man.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're looking back in anger.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Very good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's electric, but Luca, you're favorite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're favorite fans of the workout.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'd probably say Norway and Scotland have been the best on us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's also an army what they did in the group stage.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Then he was in Boston.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was part of that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but also, I saw some rules and legislations that the local council had to extend the times in most of my page.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In a lot, yeah, that's really tiring.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was crazy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, that was incredible to see.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And more I love so much about the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just seen so many different cultures blended into one with so many different fans from across the world.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it's been great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, people are asking, did Luke and Leia's already glazed, but, no, what is that with our stand minutes?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been waiting for the green flag, the green flag, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so now, bar, Steve, I don't know, let's, let's be open, I mean, we're even, we're remembering ground war, so I can ask you the question, can you ask Steve, what are the things of Trump interference?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I think or one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we know a girl with thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't want my taxes audited, so I have to keep my feelings to myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think I think in the end result, we were talking about this a little bit before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the great beneficiary of that was Belgium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank Belgium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys will know better than I do, but they did not look very good in their previous games in the tournament.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That seemed to be their most passionate game, their most organized game, their most skilled game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They played with most energy, at least that I saw them play with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that was an excellent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the US was a little bit distracted, but that had a lot to do with I think Belgium
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[SPEAKER_00]: Belgium wanted to win that game very badly, and I think you can draw a straight line between what happened off the pitch to what happened on the... Yeah, we defined it counter-productive, I would say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now what's your balance of this tournament from the U.S. and from a cultural perspective, what do we expect, what kind of boost do we expect after the tournament?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, I think we last summer is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about the boost we got from having the World Cup here in 1994.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw participatory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's go up and that last long, two years later, um, I think we're just going to see, I don't know if we may be anything that dramatic in the next two, three years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think we are going to see a steady uptick on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: interest in the sport, I think, one of the great things, look, everyone knows everyone in this country and new messy before this world cup, and Bob A, familiar Holland, maybe a less familiar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the other great thing is how some of the many of the stars of the sport are now pretty close to the household names in this country, and I think that's going to be great for the sport around the world, but also an interest in this country.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm expecting to see more interest, you know, all that goes back to Man City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to see more American fans suddenly interested in
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I think where it goes from here, I think the next big step for America, there's two things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's how we build our talent base, and that starts with revamping our youth program, and I don't know what the answer to that is, but why a country of 330 million people can't produce 20 high quality soccer players, that's kind of a mystery to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, I think the next big leap for us is, who's the next big talent that comes to play in MLS?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had, we've mentioned a day to back him, we've had messy, we've had many others who's next to other rising and who, if anybody will come here when they are a little closer to their prime, then somebody on that thing, his grace messy has been, he's got, he was gas at prime when he got to MLS, I think that's the next big step for American soccer aside from what we do in global competitions, it's where does NLS go from here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, now that's I think it would be crucial.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think let me play with the this man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You are the president of the soccer Federation of the United States or my FNM.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all here my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm serious like for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very dissolution when it comes to
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[SPEAKER_01]: to you soccer when it comes in in the U.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very, very disillusioned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think every time I hear the consensus talk after games about how we need our best athletes to be playing soccer in this and that, I just want to pull my hair out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, until you stop forcing kids and their families to be paying thousands upon thousands, upon thousands of pounds or dollars, to pay for academies or pay for clubs.
20:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You will never be able to see the best players played because so many of them are being priced out.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a brilliant piece that came out shortly after the U.S. loss from Chris Richard's mother.
20:45
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
20:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there was a piece where they interviewed Chris Richard's mother and basically said that we almost went bankrupt trying to get our kid playing in this country.
20:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's one of the ones that made it.
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And now we play in the Premier League for Crystal Palace.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But how many of those stories don't get told because they're being priced out of it?
20:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas in England, for example,
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the case, right?
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: People get paid scholarship fees.
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: As kids think they'll play in the academy.
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It's here, you've got to basically pay an arm in a leg to even get through the door.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a backwards concept.
21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw Lexi Lala as actually justifying it the other day.
21:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was absolutely shameful.
21:14
[SPEAKER_01]: When it's all stuff like that happens, I mean, you can make every excuse under the sun, but I think you're almost holding your hands back at the starting point, rather than even trying to get to the finish line.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I just say one thing, and I agree with you, however, that is true for all you sports in the United States, it costs a lot of money to become, but to get on the NBA track, to get on the MLB track.
21:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But you think culturally little sports are already at a head start, whereas
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Football, you're already playing catch-up with the rest of the world, right?
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think that's the issue, because 100% AAU, it's not cheap to go play AAU basketball.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just feel like basketball is one of the big three sports in the U.S. You're already having most people that you would hope play basketball, already playing basketball.
21:55
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're trying to attract new kids into playing football soccer in this country, it's a tough selling point, when already the fees down much, in my opinion.
22:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have a lot of people in the comments say we should reduce the price of a cadmium in the U.S. pay to play is not a system I did it right I went with the entire we are even to pay for the kids yeah it's it's ridiculous how much money your my parents were spending every single year trying to get me yeah but to be fair with you this is exactly what happens in it I don't know us the situation in in England look us on the same
22:26
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't understand.
22:27
[SPEAKER_04]: England academies of, like, by front of where the most advanced, with best in the world, is solely based off my area.
22:31
[SPEAKER_04]: You, there's, like, in England, it's different.
22:33
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's the academy, but there's also the foundation.
22:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's good, where, like, Austin will have a foundation, Chelsea will have them, where you pay to play, to be a part of the team almost, but it's not actually the academy level, the academy.
22:45
[SPEAKER_04]: You start when you're young, you're scouted, only the best players playing, then you go from there, and then eventually, if you're good enough, you get a scholarship.
22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, that's interesting.
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And but another interesting story about the prices, there is a former, a few weeks ago, so a former Syria player, you basically rebuilt, reinvented himself by teaching, I don't know if you probably used to, you look at massimo maratina used to be a Syria striker in early 2000, and basically moved to Miami, and he teach soccer football to people and say,
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then the next question is, and you say you went through it, if you do have, if you're fortunate enough to have the means to pay those prices to get on that track and get that trading and go to your academy, are you learning the right things in the United States?
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it worth the money?
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a dollar question, or do the U.S. have the best coaches out there possible to be developing and coaching these players to then get to the level?
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I think
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: If I was someone coming to the program now, the first thing I would be trying to do as soon as I get either all enough or good enough, it's trying to make my way over to Europe, because you know that's where the best academies are.
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think ultimately, you're definitely right, because culturally, I think is the biggest issue here, and that's why I had such high hopes about this turning going in, because I felt, and I still feel like it's done a lot of good things, having the tournament here, right?
24:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's been an upsurge and interest, but the U.S. having a great tournament, I felt would have really, almost,
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: catapulted it to another level similar to what happened in 1994 obviously it was never going to reach that level just because you were starting almost from ground zero But yeah, I think culturally is probably the biggest thing that's still holding the U.S. back because you're competing with three other sports that unfortunately are just on a bigger level here Then it's like I would say people in the meantime there is only 30 free academies in our country of this size that that's is a probe that's is an issue
24:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's very small.
24:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, like Steve was saying, it was 313 million people in New York.
24:44
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a huge population.
24:46
[SPEAKER_04]: You should be able to produce one of the most talented teams in the world as national teams in the world.
24:50
[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to ask you guys this question quickly, because I don't know how familiar I am ready with the system.
24:55
[SPEAKER_04]: You said you have to pay a lot of money to play basketball in our comfort pool.
24:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously you've been normal football.
25:01
[SPEAKER_04]: What age does that start?
25:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Because my thing is when you're young when you're nine ten years old You just want to play sports, right?
25:07
[SPEAKER_04]: So you want to try basketball You want to try soccer.
25:10
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to try American football.
25:11
[SPEAKER_04]: See which one you love the most is that possible now Or is it more like when you're a child you're almost you almost select a sport and then you just focus on that because of the cost or is it possible to like football?
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Deeply about everything ever you can start paying that under eat
25:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Under eight years old they already have a team that you got to pay full fees for you got to buy the kids You got to do all that stuff.
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to pay for your kid to travel and stuff like that.
25:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, tell Very young you saw.
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, very young for I can't speak for this person.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't play them for football until it was
25:37
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say we're talking about what it takes to get into an academy or something like that we're talking about it's now cost a lot of money to be a youth sports athlete, but you've athlete in any sport.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: It's we're not talking about academy level.
25:51
[SPEAKER_00]: We were talking about what used to be, you know, when I was kid you played literally in your political town.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm sure.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Now if you're seven eight ten years old now there's pressure to get on your local travel team, your local club team.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: the quality of play and the quality of coaching the year point.
26:07
[SPEAKER_00]: In those cases, you're now paying a couple of thousand dollars a year to get something that I got for free from some local bad who was just wanted to help out coaching and do the right thing for his community.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a racket, I think, separating the good from the bad at that age, especially, forget about the good from the bad athletes.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard for a parent to decide where should I spend my money, because you know,
26:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there any estimation or how much cost to build that carry in the sports in the U.S.
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if an FL or a muskable... What a cost to do if you're over your young life.
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a I think a varies by sport, if it's probably varies by where you are in the country, but I think if you let's just say a U basketball, if you want to
27:03
[SPEAKER_00]: a division one college scholarship.
27:07
[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably between phase ages of say 11 and 18.
27:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say you're spending at least between travel and fees, $10,000 a year problem.
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, according to the nationwide data, families typically spend around 1.5k per child on youth soccer per year.
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: If I pass an average, that's including low levels.
27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's even 1k.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're 3 kids.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You're paying for 3.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, in this way, it's difficult for family.
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Because football, normally in Europe starts as a really lower class.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It runs around zero sport.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's an important point you made earlier that, and culturally, and we may never get there in England and Spain, in Argentina, everywhere else in the world.
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're four years old and you're running around outside in the street, you're kicking a softball.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Here, you're more likely to be dribbling the basketball, or throwing the football, and everybody has that some experience there.
28:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how we get to that point with soccer in this country.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to develop.
28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to be a kid from the U.S. that just comes out in his like one of one.
28:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And he manages to find his way through the system, gets to the top, but he's like American, he plays with the U.S. And he's like, I don't even know, maybe not even must he level, but like,
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yamal level.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the only way.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he is almost like the LeBron of his sport.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They tried, I think they tried making that Christian pull is so badly over the last 10 years when he was never really at that level.
28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's potentially what could maybe make everybody take a step back and say, Oh, we have some of the rest of the world looks at and things.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a top top player.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think we've ever had that.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you're a kid in the US and you're having big dreams, do you imagine I want to be the next LeBron or I would be the next Patrick Bones or do you say I want to be a Christian pull?
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: At the moment, I know who I would choose, at the moment of the four, which is why I was so desperate for this team to really make themselves heroes for the rest of the night.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think they should do that.
29:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And guys, we need to let Steve go.
29:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say goodbye to you Steve with a question.
29:06
[SPEAKER_02]: People in the chart are asking, are you a former player?
29:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Or are you a candidate?
29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you want to be?
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely not a former player.
29:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure if my Pondetree skill is really great.
29:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Pondetree.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with Pondetree.
29:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Have I guessed Pondetree?
29:21
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
29:21
[SPEAKER_03]: It was going to win the World Cup State before you got it.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't possibly pick against friends at this point.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
29:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I had a more creative pick.
29:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Shard, thanks very much to Steve Kanella, editor-in-chief, as well as illustrator, thanks for being with us, David.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And now there is a VT for us, who is the best player in Walker Pistory.
29:44
[SPEAKER_02]: People say, you should have your ratio, like Jimmy Fallon, but I love, I love going around New York with Dan, and today, as always, we're in Times Square, we're going to ask the people who is the best player in World Capitory.
29:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Bellé.
29:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Pérez, yeah, Pérez, I've got to be Pérez.
30:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course it's Bella, he scored 17 years old in the World Cup final.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't alive when he played, and my dad was, and he told me a lot of good stories about him, and I've seen some of his goals in the World Cup too, and he looked pretty cool.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
30:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know it's, I got to respect him on his name.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Maradona.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's me, Cario, and that's it.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Van Pasquite.
30:20
[SPEAKER_02]: To my best players, Cristiano Ronaldo.
30:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Cristiano Ronaldo.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Victor Giacres.
30:24
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30:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I love, I'm Mexican, I love Messi, oh my god, I see Lionel Messi.
30:39
[SPEAKER_05]: In my opinion, Lionel Messi is the best player.
30:42
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody knows that he's the best.
30:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Messi, for now, yeah.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and in World Cup history, World Cup.
30:50
[SPEAKER_03]: World World Cup history?
30:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Messi again.
31:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, we are a lot of messy, but now I need to take a train or a plane because post on the train is for our five hours.
31:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's long.
31:10
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a long distance, because there are two things probably that are showing life.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Taxes.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you pay versus Kilianba pay in the World Cup, it's going to score.
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Now what we want you to say, Lee has convinced me, favorite, that France are not the favorite to win this World Cup.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't convince you.
31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, I can't convince that possibly.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Friends are the favorite to win this tournament.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: They've looked the best.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And they've made relatively light work of the sixth best team in the world based on the fever rankings.
31:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And you wouldn't have fought that today.
31:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I especially based on other second-of-one.
31:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't convince you, Ali, I'm sorry.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very good at convincing, normally, but today, today, I'll leave at the look of you on the train.
31:51
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to convince me, friends?
31:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not the main candidate to win this workout.
31:55
[SPEAKER_04]: It'd be, likely, a set it's hard to convince.
31:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, you build somebody, and then you have to be your lawyer.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't get it.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I can do my best by it.
32:02
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to jail.
32:03
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to walk miracles, man.
32:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I'm front to the best team in the competition.
32:07
[SPEAKER_04]: They have the best attack on my father, one of the best defensive sides.
32:10
[SPEAKER_04]: I only consider two goals, which is crazy, crazy, star fun.
32:13
[SPEAKER_04]: Morocco today, absolutely nullified in the final fur, they didn't create anything really.
32:18
[SPEAKER_04]: And on Barpe, as I said really, time and time again, I believe that at the end of this World Cup campaign, he would solidify himself as a growths World Cup player of all time.
32:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think he's on a very good trajectory to be that by winning it and being the top score.
32:32
[SPEAKER_04]: So they're incredible.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's impressive, because we've been talking about Morocco while waterside, they are strong, physically, technically.
32:41
[SPEAKER_02]: They are technically a valid team, and today it's like they run over them.
32:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it was a weird game.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the first half, Morocco, they defended quite well.
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt, and they kept the ball decently, but they just offered you absolutely nothing going forward.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They decided to play with a false nine today.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt at times like, Brahimi was all a Brahimi.
33:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a Brahimi, I was excuse me, Brahimi, all the Algerian player.
33:05
[SPEAKER_01]: But I had the false nine for them today, and he was never in the box.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no threat in the box whatsoever.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't put any crosses in.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I camey, gun dangerous positions, no ones inside.
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the second half, once France really put their foot
33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Morocco offered very riddle little resistance and still I felt disappointed with how little they showed going for it I've friends are a really good team, but And maybe I need to stop saying this.
33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say should Morocco have gone at them more But if Morocco six-thin the world can't trouble friends, maybe we need to look more at friends than we do need to a Morocco Maybe that's the ultimate story.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with you, but the chart are suggesting two options
33:43
[SPEAKER_02]: First one, Yamal, you have one mission.
33:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about Spain in a big later.
33:48
[SPEAKER_02]: The second one, Luca needs to sing wonderful.
33:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Can we convince you to sing wonderful?
33:55
[SPEAKER_04]: If England won, I'll sing wonderful.
33:57
[SPEAKER_04]: Here we go.
34:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess nowhere as well, just the nowhere, we're not the whole fans, we're the one.
34:04
[SPEAKER_04]: If England are gonna be nowhere, I'll sing it, why not?
34:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I sing it, I sing it in the ferns, I sing it at home, I sing it at home, I do, are you confident about your... No, I'll need your lyrics, so I don't know them move, love by heart.
34:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about your singing skills, are you confident?
34:18
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not a great thing, huh?
34:20
[SPEAKER_04]: Never claimed to be a fault.
34:21
[SPEAKER_04]: I never claimed to be a great thing.
34:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You think you really can't be a geography teacher?
34:24
[SPEAKER_04]: Trust me, but the options are running thin.
34:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I look like a man, but talking about football.
34:28
[SPEAKER_04]: But for me, Morocco, one portion of today, the north side bar is what I've made.
34:32
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't out of top.
34:33
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a massive misfit, but I think Lea's is right to be fair.
34:36
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no point overly criticising them before in the first half, they did relatively fine.
34:41
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just more so in the final further, they lap further, 90, but when you are playing a team that good, sometimes you just have to hold your hands but say, look, these guys.
34:49
[SPEAKER_04]: Only a top top level team can even go toe to toe them and as good as Morocco are and have been in this tournament and even in Africa, they're not at that level to yet beat France.
35:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Question for the panel.
35:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably done.
35:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to kill him because I stole a question for him.
35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is the favorite to win the Balondor currently?
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: When I start with you.
35:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Very good.
35:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Hurricane.
35:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at.
35:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, probably.
35:16
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like the thing is, it depends on who wants to work hard.
35:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, look, I guess the question is.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And right now, right now, the power wrecking of the Balondor, right now.
35:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, probably can or at least so.
35:26
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, can you give me a top three, look at?
35:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I can at least say, right now you're saying.
35:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Huh?
35:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Today.
35:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Stuff up.
35:36
[SPEAKER_04]: That's tough.
35:37
[SPEAKER_04]: I probably, I would.
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the belly cylinder.
35:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I look a vahra.
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's important.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to be the top.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I like head world.
35:44
[SPEAKER_01]: My, I like.
35:45
[SPEAKER_04]: He won't be, but I don't want to just make my top three based on.
35:50
[SPEAKER_04]: This turn I knew didn't the one that got me out.
35:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I think Karish Kelly, for me, when I look at PSG last season, as good as Ben Bello was in the late knockout stage competitions, as good as you are now, there's a bit of a teenager.
36:00
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Karish Kelly was their main man.
36:01
[SPEAKER_04]: And I very much like him.
36:03
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been vocal of that over the years.
36:05
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's really unfortunate for him that was a world cut by a lot of people who are forgetting him to be honest.
36:11
[SPEAKER_04]: But as of right now, I would still want to put him in and around the favorite.
36:15
[SPEAKER_04]: However, I know when the one December rolls around,
36:18
[SPEAKER_04]: He won't be in those conversations simply because of the wild cop.
36:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're not the way till the summer this time, I suppose, is in a, I think in October.
36:25
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there an October if you're all done?
36:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there an October that moved forward.
36:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a spot for a helium-up pain in your top tree?
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: At the current moment, he's knocking on it.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: He, the thing of impact, though, is more than anybody else.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to win the roll cup.
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's forget about it.
36:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Him and Messi, they don't win the roll cup.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Forget about the volunteer.
36:42
[SPEAKER_01]: If they win it,
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Bapie wins the World Cup, you wins the Balaambe.
36:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if Messi wins the World Cup, he wins the Balaambe, as crazy as that might sound.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But without it, as good as their tournaments would get them in the top 10, maybe even the top 5, but they need to win it because I don't think the rest of their season had enough whether it's silverware or significant moments to win the Balaambe on its own.
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: which is why I said here again is a favorite because he's got a 72 gold season he's had a greatly campaign he scored goals in the Champions League and he might win the World Cup.
37:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Hotache about Kilium Bapé.
37:20
[SPEAKER_02]: When I was, when we were watching the game, when we won the penalty, I say, he looked alike on it.
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: When he changed, based.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the most sharp player I've ever seen in my life.
37:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so sharp.
37:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, he's a blur.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just what I'm gonna do.
37:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen a player look that fast on the wall.
37:40
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I totally agree with him.
37:42
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, on Twitter, I ever was saying, I wasn't a dived.
37:46
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, this time the oven is slowing down the video to 0.1 speed.
37:50
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy here plays at 200%.
37:53
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy here is gone like that.
37:54
[SPEAKER_04]: He is the quickest player I've ever seen in my life.
37:56
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a joke when he shifts gear.
37:58
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
37:59
[SPEAKER_04]: When people criticize him, was it Masrawe you went to ground?
38:02
[SPEAKER_04]: You tried to burn one up.
38:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Like who?
38:04
[SPEAKER_04]: One on one.
38:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyone against this guy is going to get done.
38:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Because in a moment, he can shift the ball.
38:09
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can't see him.
38:10
[SPEAKER_04]: So to criticize Masrawe for going to ground there.
38:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, it's a penalty.
38:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we can touch upon it in a second.
38:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Best slow in it down is like you should have died in this thing the other this guy here When he shifts the ball no one can stop No seriously one of you want running into the box like that and people are criticizing my zrobin out of the fan Come on brother.
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the we're talking about a cheeton No, we're talking about a jaguar right now.
38:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know you it's like
38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They only wishful people is try to watch him live at least once.
38:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you've got to understand the joke.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched the movie.
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a joke.
38:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Something...
38:44
[SPEAKER_02]: When I remember, when I watched him, he tried to fake a movement.
38:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, the opponent, he went, completely fell down.
38:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, he's actually...
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I used... Before imbapy, the fastest player I think I had seen was Garusville.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: That was... Bell was explosive.
39:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But imbapy is so...
39:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like...
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like an atom, honestly.
39:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen something like that.
39:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just killing him, bumping him.
39:07
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, I actually think he's slower than he was as a teenager.
39:09
[SPEAKER_01]: At 18 years old, in Bapai was the fakeest thing I've ever seen in my life.
39:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That clip of him against Argentina was.
39:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Nah, that was, that was actually like, alien.
39:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I was from now, he's the fastest player in the world.
39:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But that version of my words, Gary.
39:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and real, you know what I'm done, you know, who was another player in press, me in terms of speed, adding robin.
39:30
[SPEAKER_02]: their first time at War Charium Warmen running, I say, wow, we need to kill the P.K.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: and Ramos.
39:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he actually makes for me an arguable case to be in the all-time Netherlands 11, I'd say.
39:43
[SPEAKER_03]: For for me?
39:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for me, yes.
39:45
[SPEAKER_03]: I put it in here.
39:46
[SPEAKER_03]: On the right, I mean, if you're playing a lot of wingers, he has to be there, right?
39:48
[SPEAKER_03]: On the right, cutting in, you know, what happens next?
39:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, walk on too.
39:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Theo, what the guy, what a guy.
39:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So many quick points.
39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You remember like the meat, that bird that was Aaron Lennon or roadrunner?
40:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Roadrunner, then Wally Coyote.
40:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
40:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
40:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone say, Bale had a bet to finish them up.
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little bit better finish.
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we do.
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Finish early.
40:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a shot.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you guys on drugs?
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's talking about him.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Bapies were like 400 goals.
40:17
[SPEAKER_02]: What the, or Leah's, Leah's, I want to ask you something.
40:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Because yesterday we were running an Italian lunch, you were invited, you know, it's so.
40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And we were, no, you were invited, so, but...
40:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited, we were invited
40:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We were debating, we were debating Salah or Aryan Robin.
40:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We used to, oh, that's a half question.
40:52
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, a tough question, then.
40:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Salah is the chart, he's also for you.
40:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Robin is like a real, like for me, I don't like St. Salah's on a winger, but he's more of an insight for Damian.
41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Robin was like,
41:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Robin was really, really good, man.
41:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you might have to give it to Sala.
41:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't tell you crazy if you gave it to Sala because you look at his consistency.
41:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he was more consistent than Robin.
41:16
[SPEAKER_01]: He scored more goals than Robin.
41:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He was more a goal score than Robin.
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But Robin meant he had this ability to just make any defender look like absolute crap.
41:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think people seriously forget 2014 World Cup how good he was.
41:28
[SPEAKER_01]: like it was a joke yeah it was genuinely it was the injuries he had a lot of injuries that cut his seasons short his output was never as good as asala's but I think he was insane Robin
41:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, Chata saying, Salah, Robin by far.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It depends on what you say.
41:45
[SPEAKER_01]: They're very different.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They're very different.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Now the question for both of you is, you are in the play of the... You are a sporting director.
41:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to sign just one play.
41:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Salah, because he's available.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
42:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I really liked him in online town.
42:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Robin for Bayern.
42:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Robin, it was behind the door.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: The Valleys code, he took Bayern to that final single hand of me for me.
42:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was also really good in the 2014 World Cup.
42:22
[SPEAKER_01]: He was really good in 2012.
42:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a tough to find.
42:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Bayern Robin is the best period.
42:27
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, of course.
42:28
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at the thing.
42:28
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was in 2010 and 2014.
42:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he was on touch.
42:31
[SPEAKER_03]: That was his time.
42:32
[SPEAKER_03]: I would take Salah.
42:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You're selling, I take Robin, and I think Robin is a joke.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about his prime, so I don't have the way about injuries or whatever.
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Robin, when he was at his best, was one of the most frightening clears you will ever see.
42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I would, some other, we literally tailored the saying, you know what he's going to do, and you can't stop him.
42:50
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's fit, Robin was just a joke, but it's very tight.
42:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Both of them, I mean, if you say Salah, I don't believe him.
42:55
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's matter of taste.
42:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Chaat, let us know.
42:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to take a little break on a sighty route.
43:00
[SPEAKER_02]: We stay, we stay, we're done.
43:04
[SPEAKER_03]: for what it's worth, I'm taking Robin, surprise.
43:06
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, surprisingly, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
43:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're can call by far.
43:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a very good combination.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Deadly double was your can call is the maybe the most iconic.
43:34
[SPEAKER_01]: What was iconic do was of all time.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Tribal in there peanut butter and jelly.
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the OG two months.
43:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everybody knows the York and Cole.
43:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah.
43:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Rune and Tevis that one year really, they were very good.
43:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Rune actually says Tevis was his favorite ever teammate, but you have to call York and Cole that.
43:47
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay, so back to the World Cup, we've got a bit of Morocco questions.
43:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Should they have got on the ball more today?
43:54
[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like they were off it completely, maybe that wasn't their choice, of course.
43:57
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, was it a penalty?
43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Does anyone have the possession stats?
44:01
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't pull that.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like they had it.
44:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like on the ball wasn't really the problem.
44:05
[SPEAKER_03]: So the start of the second half, I thought they looked pretty good as well.
44:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely, by the way, the first half.
44:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely, they're more.
44:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, rock with 52% over there, so possession wasn't a problem, but what about the penalty layers?
44:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the jaw one, that MVP one.
44:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a penalty.
44:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you slow down anything enough, you can manipulate a scenario, and I think it's happened a lot to slow up, but yeah, I think it was a penalty.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what I found really, really interesting, guys, was the referee's VAR decision that lasted up the three minutes.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
44:37
[SPEAKER_01]: taking that long through him, Bapé off course.
44:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you even saw one play, he tried to pick up the ball and like say, okay, this is BS, let me go back.
44:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think you saw that stutter that he did.
44:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And that never stutters like that.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he never wakes up like this.
44:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He's never taken a Pantilai set.
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the wait time got into the set and it just goes to show that even the most elite mentality professional athletes, a guy like M. Bapé is worth three penalties in one world cup final, even for him.
45:02
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to penalties, at this stage, it's tough.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very, very tough.
45:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We are back on a CITV and can you remind me guys?
45:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We were discussing the penalty from Kilium Bapé.
45:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you remind me where the referees were from?
45:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, Argentina.
45:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Argentina guys, they rigged it.
45:22
[SPEAKER_02]: They rigged it.
45:23
[SPEAKER_02]: They try and rigging it but friends were too good.
45:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Luca, the chart of asking another debate.
45:32
[SPEAKER_02]: You are sporting director, are you sign, try him, are you in Robin or Prime, go with B.
45:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom, Bill, of course.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think Bill was better than starting.
45:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, Bill, that is best.
45:42
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not my prime.
45:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I forget about it.
45:45
[SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of a, we were having yesterday.
45:46
[SPEAKER_02]: May 2014, that I forget about it.
45:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Bill, those last, what, one two seasons, like Tottenham, and Star and the Dred, different animal, different beast amount.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Bill is best, yeah, I forget about it.
45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Next question.
45:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Bill, sure.
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Next question.
46:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Next question is going to be, oh, let's do a little preview of the Spain Belgium Spain Belgium, Luca, is there a way for Belgium to surprise this Spain?
46:14
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
46:15
[SPEAKER_04]: For me, this Spanish team haven't really reached the full climax here.
46:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they've been incredible.
46:22
[SPEAKER_04]: This whole walk-up campaign defensively, they've been excellent, of course, the best defensive ruffle.
46:27
[SPEAKER_04]: You can see the zero goals, there's no question about that.
46:30
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the midfield as well has been massively held down by Roger.
46:34
[SPEAKER_04]: And when Roger is at his best,
46:37
[SPEAKER_04]: They tick, whether that be city or whether that be Spain, the team in which he plays in ticks very well.
46:43
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's been arguably the midfielder of the tournament, or at least the six of the tournament for short.
46:47
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think in the final third, we haven't seen them really at their best.
46:50
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course, you spoke about Lameen before.
46:52
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not 100% fitness.
46:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Miss Niko Williams is a massive, massive loss on the left hand side because I don't think by NR.
47:00
[SPEAKER_04]: is a typical traditional wing roll, so don't think it's a top-level play-off, or yards about as hard as moments, but I don't think this Spanish team have reached that best yet.
47:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I do still, despite all of this, I do still think they have more than enough to beat Belgium, but Belgium right now are playing with such a freedom.
47:15
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the way that they played against the U.S. men's national team, of course, they're going to be confident.
47:19
[SPEAKER_04]: We saw some big, big decisions by Rudy Garcia, dropping the briner, dropping dock, or being interested in the C if he went in to grow some, or carries the same start and 11 going in, into this game.
47:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I think there's going to be a lot more pressure on Spain.
47:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Belgium just need to go.
47:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Be very aggressive from the start, put them on the back foot, but they have to be wear in transition because the Spanish team they can kill them.
47:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Sir, yes, sir, yeah, what do you think of Rudi Garcia revamping?
47:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Because yes, and the disc is spellin' Napoli, wasn't that fortunate.
47:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And now, we try to take decision with personality because dropping the brewing lookak with document is not easy.
48:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but at some point your jobs on the line your tournaments on the line tough decisions have to be made now You know they've been credit that the tough decisions have actually worked out but Look against Senegal 2-0 down.
48:13
[SPEAKER_01]: They need to throw something at the wall and I'll ultimately in that game He made brave decisions to drop those three bring the cool off and again They need to win and it worked out.
48:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So what are you gonna do the next game go back to what wasn't working?
48:24
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I actually give them a lot of credit because you look at what Martin has did in the Croatia game He took off Bruno.
48:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He took off the team and took off Cristiano Ronaldo
48:31
[SPEAKER_01]: actually play decent and they scored a golden last minute and then what do you do the next game when right back to the favorites so I was thinking right about there there you go all right so I thought I was gonna see a minute in the next one and Bruno played average in that next game so I give Rudy Garcia credit now I also think it's an easier decision for him because let's be real coming to burn out this stage of this career is no longer the same player that
48:50
[SPEAKER_01]: feels undrappable, maybe like a Bruno or Vitiniar for Portugal, Lukaku has proven to be a decent player off the bench and they cut the layers doing really really well right now.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Dooku is the big one that I might see now is like, whoa, Lord Jeremy Dooku.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But as things are standing right now, it's working out.
49:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So all you can do is continue.
49:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's interesting, because I don't look at witty space.
49:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Doh who can really change the game when when he comes off the bench.
49:13
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the, yeah, off the 100% and Doh who's one of those players where he can be so frustrated at times, because he's so up and down, but when he's on it,
49:20
[SPEAKER_04]: He's unstoppable.
49:22
[SPEAKER_04]: And I briefly, as it was a bit surprising at the time, just because he offered something, I don't think any other Belgian winner and other wingers in the world can offer.
49:29
[SPEAKER_04]: But we haven't seen him as best as tournament and why change something if it's not broken, like this Belgian team or the start of 118 played in the last game, it's working really well.
49:39
[SPEAKER_04]: He did the right thing to make those swaps.
49:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Would you go back to your old ways?
49:44
[SPEAKER_04]: And trust you wouldn't, not.
49:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't I come into you because maybe you want to play with us?
49:50
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to play with you.
49:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Finish the sentence there.
49:54
[SPEAKER_02]: If we talk about Spain vs Belgium.
49:56
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's have a look guys at a combined 11.
49:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay.
50:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So I start and go.
50:01
[SPEAKER_03]: C-mon vs C-tua.
50:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.
50:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, about this tournament.
50:06
[SPEAKER_01]: C-fries, man.
50:07
[SPEAKER_01]: C-mon as your goals, okay.
50:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We get it.
50:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you think of the board, then you first end of the time.
50:11
[SPEAKER_03]: I should be saying very show.
50:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Not my course, cool, cool.
50:13
[SPEAKER_03]: I was better, yeah.
50:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool, cool, okay.
50:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, guys versus Castania.
50:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, guys, no, no, no.
50:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go Pedro Poro, right, but I'm going to save you there, and then, Poro has been the guy for Spain.
50:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's been a great tournament.
50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going for him.
50:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's, yeah, we're surprised.
50:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm especially after the complicated season.
50:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you've been good to serve.
50:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, he sent about Khabase vs. Goy.
50:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Khabase.
50:42
[SPEAKER_03]: And next to him, Lapport, or Michaela Lapport.
50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Lapport, Lapport.
50:48
[SPEAKER_03]: Left back, Kukulella, or Decaypa.
50:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Kukulella.
50:53
[SPEAKER_03]: OK, into the midfield.
50:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Pedri vs. Onanna.
50:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Ananna obviously isn't now fit to play.
51:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not best play, you're available.
51:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's a best player.
51:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, uh...
51:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point, point
51:25
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
51:26
[SPEAKER_02]: People in the Chateau say the Kupio and Kukuraya in this tone I mean it's closer than you think.
51:31
[SPEAKER_03]: The grid.
51:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
51:32
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
51:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Roger E. Versus Raskin.
51:35
[SPEAKER_03]: Roger E. Oh, my telemons.
51:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Telemons.
51:40
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
51:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Bahina Versus Trossard, or Docu, let's start.
51:45
[SPEAKER_03]: Trossard.
51:46
[SPEAKER_03]: Trossard.
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we agree on everything here.
51:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Yamal versus Luka back here.
51:52
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
51:53
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all.
51:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop it back.
51:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at him.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your money.
51:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
51:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we got your Yamal out of it.
51:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal out of it.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, okay.
51:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal.
51:59
[SPEAKER_03]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:03
[SPEAKER_03]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:08
[SPEAKER_03]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:10
[SPEAKER_03]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:17
[SPEAKER_04]: I got your Yamal out of it.
52:18
[SPEAKER_04]: I got your
52:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, can you walk, Luca, because someone in the chat before said, Luca, PSG, are bigger than you enters.
52:29
[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
52:30
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Mom and I found it in the 70s or 80s, right?
52:32
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
52:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Bigger.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the conversations that you've been resorted to.
52:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
52:39
[SPEAKER_04]: It's still not one league-time in 13 years.
52:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we want to talk history.
52:42
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but if we want to talk about history, we can go about it.
52:45
[SPEAKER_04]: The phone for league titles, PSG have won a lot recently, huh?
52:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm happy and still not more than Aussie.
52:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get him there, I'm gonna make him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I'm gonna get him off the street, I
53:17
[SPEAKER_02]: My name is England.
53:19
[SPEAKER_02]: England, England, no way.
53:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to like him.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about this.
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Good, good, good.
53:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't take it to root.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, and I haven't even talked after, but yeah.
53:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
53:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking for a little bit last night.
53:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a good game.
53:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a good one.
53:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been Miami.
53:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh.
53:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Miami, I don't like it.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but they like about Miami.
53:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're the probably the first person ever That said, I don't like my name.
53:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't like Miami that much.
53:42
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't confer itself on it No, it's not about South London or London.
53:45
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like it's all about money there Cloud is weird Miami.
53:49
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't like Miami's a city
53:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know why we talk about my way, we're meant to be talk about football.
53:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's take a closer look.
53:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we take a plane then, let me arrive.
53:57
[SPEAKER_02]: There is early in the island.
53:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that's having, uh, uh, estimated stones for Riley?
54:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, gay.
54:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's dropping out.
54:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's dropping out.
54:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Trafford is gonna help England to understand how to stay anymore now.
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a trick question?
54:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You think Trafford's gonna tell them about Irling Island, forget about him and they can have the pulp, they can have anybody they want.
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Irling Island is inevitable, right?
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They can get advice from whoever you want, right?
54:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Irling Island is going to get his regardless.
54:29
[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing that more gay he can possibly tell.
54:32
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of this team on how to stop Irling Island, right?
54:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, if that was the case, he wouldn't be scoring 30 goals a season, forget about it.
54:38
[SPEAKER_01]: They got to hope of another way to defeat a lot of work because it won't be through stopping him.
54:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So, with that said, then, are no way they favor it against England?
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because there's 10 other players, but Alan gives you a chance, no matter what game you're playing.
54:50
[SPEAKER_02]: A few... need to give me the passenger gauge of going through.
54:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, 55 England, 45 more.
55:00
[SPEAKER_01]: You agree?
55:02
[SPEAKER_04]: What, for the ratio, I think it's a fair ratio, but yeah, I think I'd edge it towards England as well, but with Holland, you got a big big big.
55:10
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like 55 England, 35 Holland, 10% Norway.
55:14
[SPEAKER_01]: And you combine Norway and Holland?
55:15
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe, maybe, higher.
55:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're in England.
55:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Ireland, all this way.
55:18
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, no, I'd edge it towards England stuff.
55:21
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think I think this will be the game of the quarterfinals.
55:24
[SPEAKER_04]: I really do.
55:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, it's like, for me,
55:28
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a, there was a narrative built around England going to a staker and facing Mexico.
55:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
55:34
[SPEAKER_02]: He wrote, for me, this is a way more complicated game.
55:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
55:38
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, yes.
55:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
55:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this would be a more straightforward game in Mexico.
55:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Nah.
55:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Mexico is the toughest game they'll play.
55:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, I think, what leaders is, I think where you're coming from is like the mental thing.
55:49
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
55:50
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really weird.
55:51
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why we disagreed last time, right?
55:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you, I disagreed with your analysis of the game, because you thought that England were on the front.
55:56
[SPEAKER_04]: I felt England got battered in my game, but they did a really good job of keeping Mexico out.
55:59
[SPEAKER_04]: You were saying that was going to be tough for the Norway, because of the mental thing being in the middle of the...
56:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I was saying that the whole game against Mexico spent the New York defending.
56:06
[SPEAKER_04]: On the pitch, of course, it's going to be tough for against Norway to Mexico.
56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we talking about?
56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think England will have more of the bottom now.
56:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be more difficult, because I think England do better defending than they do going forward, but England will have more of the bottom in the Norway.
56:19
[SPEAKER_04]: You have a lot in transition, hot teams.
56:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Norway, yeah.
56:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably aware, but you would obviously rather have the ball and be the one that can take the initiative and try and be the protagonist of a game.
56:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Then in a game against Mexico, you're defending the whole time, and you're getting 50,000 crosses thrown at you.
56:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You can barely get out of your own half, but you had 10 men.
56:39
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, that was definitely going to be in the VM, but it's saying in the time, it depends what position strength is.
56:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you think this Norway can more in transition away deadlier the Mexico and possession.
56:48
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, for me, we're gonna prove that because what Mexico showed in that game, oh my word, I wouldn't believe it.
56:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Two aspects that I want to consider with you.
56:56
[SPEAKER_02]: First one, England left a lot of chances to Mexico.
57:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you leave those chances... Well, Norway creates many chances against England as well.
57:05
[SPEAKER_04]: They won't need as many.
57:06
[SPEAKER_04]: They're more ruthless.
57:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just going to score two goals, because Mexico got two against them.
57:11
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm more than capable of scoring two goals.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Will they, though, my point is, what's going to be the point?
57:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to tell you.
57:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm saying it.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: To see you will be a tough one.
57:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you guys are under us, too.
57:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not under us thing, because they beat Mexico.
57:20
[SPEAKER_01]: The Mexico team, the one to the game, four wins from four.
57:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero goals conceded.
57:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Mexico was, for me, the toughest game they'll play.
57:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll be tougher than all.
57:27
[SPEAKER_04]: Mexico are good team, but they're not better than all the way.
57:29
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, no.
57:30
[SPEAKER_04]: For me, there's still a level, right?
57:31
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know where I played my part.
57:32
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know where I played my part, but I don't disagree.
57:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But Mexico played who they played in me.
57:38
[SPEAKER_01]: They went on the field and they had their goals.
57:39
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not disrespect the Mexico, I think they're a good side.
57:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they go away in different levels.
57:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially in the quality.
57:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Front, Nuzah, Odegard, Ireland.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Bug in the middle full.
57:51
[SPEAKER_01]: They had Nuzah, the other thing about Kinoan, as well.
57:54
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I was talking about?
57:55
[SPEAKER_01]: It gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, it gives us the fur goals, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
58:19
[SPEAKER_01]: My circle for me was a war thing, so far.
58:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I know they left with two black guys, spring wrists.
58:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because someone... You, because you, this guy, this guy, this is a jump-down for an out-of-the-clock jump.
58:28
[SPEAKER_01]: This game?
58:29
[SPEAKER_02]: The, the, okay.
58:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And we go, we go, and we take a little break on inside TV.
58:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We go to Dunn.
58:36
[SPEAKER_03]: OK, guys, another game, all right?
58:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is the best at the following attributes between Harry Kane and Erling Holland?
58:45
[SPEAKER_03]: First up, pace.
58:46
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you?
58:47
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Holland.
58:48
[SPEAKER_03]: First touch.
58:49
[SPEAKER_03]: OK. Finishing.
58:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.
58:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't answer.
58:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Holland's first touch has to be really, really good for me.
58:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
58:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I was, I was good.
58:59
[SPEAKER_02]: You were saying, can you, Ernest?
59:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll edge it to Kane.
59:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's close to people, think.
59:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Finishing.
59:07
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Harry Kane's a more well-rounded finisher.
59:10
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
59:11
[SPEAKER_04]: Leadership.
59:14
[SPEAKER_01]: King.
59:14
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
59:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, King.
59:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
59:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't agree with me.
59:19
[SPEAKER_04]: It's more to lead a shit, though, not just like I think by example, as well, like it's so hairy, keen, man.
59:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone gets here.
59:27
[SPEAKER_04]: If you say, Sarah, we can, that's basically going to get one of you in.
59:31
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I'm an old team, we'll get one two show, we'll get one.
59:33
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, are you thinking of the element?
59:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, all the time came proof of him.
59:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, more than agree.
59:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, passing.
59:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
59:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
59:43
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
59:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Shop power, hollin.
59:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Kane.
59:51
[SPEAKER_01]: See that gul against Congo?
59:53
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm going Kane.
59:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going hollin.
59:56
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is right, okay, go continue with your next one.
59:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, aerial prowess.
1:00:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and hollin.
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_03]: And then finally football IQ.
1:00:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Hurricane.
1:00:05
[SPEAKER_04]: Howlin?
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I've got a positional, like, positional awareness.
1:00:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Holland is the best in a box.
1:00:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's who IQ?
1:00:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh well, I can come back to shock power.
1:00:13
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little bit like you, isn't it?
1:00:14
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it's very close.
1:00:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen how in leather a ball, but I've also seen Kate absolutely destroyed in there.
1:00:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but my own story.
1:00:22
[SPEAKER_01]: My main talking point here is, I think when you do these attribute versus attribute, when it comes to howling, I think howling will boost to a lot of strikers, because
1:00:30
[SPEAKER_01]: players have more technical ability.
1:00:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We are back, we are back, we are back, we are back, but just to finish my point off your right, I think what Holland is so good at is so specialized, that's difficult to do at attribute.
1:00:40
[SPEAKER_01]: His best thing, if you talk about movement, anticipation, running in behind, getting on the end of chances, timing, all of that stuff, he clears every other strike around the planet.
1:00:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's even close, but then when you talk about technical ability, crossing, passing, when you do attributes, like how we do other players, I think Holland is a little
1:00:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Specialized a certain regard important to say what the Chata saying.
1:01:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Short-power is equal.
1:01:04
[SPEAKER_02]: No is better.
1:01:08
[SPEAKER_02]: People are asking, well, if you're experiencing New York, because smoking short-power is island.
1:01:18
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I think, hey, it's Haland, I'll never forget that one against PSG at the signal doing that when he ripped it in there.
1:01:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
1:01:26
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen the way this guy can also put his laces through a ball.
1:01:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to talk about these top-level strikers.
1:01:32
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the difference between shots.
1:01:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already like, yes.
1:01:35
[SPEAKER_04]: What we even do in here is...
1:01:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Ask me tomorrow on my talent.
1:01:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think Hayne, you know, the way he got laced a ball.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, but yeah, of course, man, of course.
1:01:42
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is so tough to say, who's got the most...
1:01:45
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you know how we finished this, was going to decide the game, are we game or early in the island?
1:01:55
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what, I don't even need to say anything, because if that happens he's in a cold tick together and I can't beat that.
1:02:00
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what?
1:02:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
1:02:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I would even do that.
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I do a thing, guys.
1:02:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
1:02:06
[SPEAKER_04]: What's his spirit?
1:02:07
[SPEAKER_04]: I just...
1:02:08
[SPEAKER_04]: I would even disagree with some artists.
1:02:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
1:02:10
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I would love to.
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_02]: To see England win because I wear that.
1:02:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I may be.
1:02:15
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well.
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I quite like to see that.
1:02:17
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone's also said best YouTubeer.
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's you too.
1:02:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all in by far.
1:02:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's social media, it's not for me.
1:02:25
[SPEAKER_01]: How in this, you see, it's pretty clear the other night is pretty good.
1:02:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's voice was didn't Skyman.
1:02:30
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of kind of TikTok story.
1:02:31
[SPEAKER_01]: It does like having seen the Philips.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He does like the rank and errorable man.
1:02:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Kaine is the worst TikToker of all the time.
1:02:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Second ad TikTok.
1:02:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:02:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's like a grandpa, a tick-talker, man.
1:02:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I think even my dad would give better content.
1:02:40
[SPEAKER_01]: How are he?
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, he doesn't give any explanation.
1:02:43
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes like, we're talking about biscuits.
1:02:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry Kane in front of a camera is rough.
1:02:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You're one of the greatest strikers that ever exists.
1:02:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But leave the social media to the young guys.
1:02:51
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a reason to say.
1:02:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Even though the interview was great.
1:02:55
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll tell you call him now.
1:02:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I didn't you do what you have to do But me I don't have one lined up with him.
1:03:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So no, no, the interview post match.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah Like we said his bush was gone.
1:03:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It was hilarious.
1:03:05
[SPEAKER_01]: It was probably yeah, it's he's honest.
1:03:06
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that Yeah, who are you guys starting?
1:03:09
[SPEAKER_03]: One by one if you had Harland and Kane you had one position for me Holland depends on the team Okay
1:03:15
[SPEAKER_01]: the fans on the team.
1:03:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's some teams for howling suits them more.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's true.
1:03:19
[SPEAKER_01]: If you were a smaller team for example, would you want howling or hair again?
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I want howling.
1:03:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Howling, yeah.
1:03:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe a team like Bayern for example, do they want to hair you can over howling?
1:03:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you've got all these great, but I'll be stop to say that.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_04]: But at all and it's still, it's still win the lot domestically.
1:03:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'd rather have a really
1:03:44
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just looking, Boogie.
1:03:45
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Dan.
1:03:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to say, I agree with Leo's.
1:03:47
[SPEAKER_04]: I think actually Freight should be came for me as more, but that doesn't determine the final say on who who would you rather have.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks.
1:03:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Does that make sense?
1:03:55
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Dan.
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_04]: There's positions.
1:03:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think not takes days.
1:03:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Sinob, I think there's positions where certain attributes just weigh more.
1:04:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, for example, if you were to do attribute for attribute with shavi and yaturi,
1:04:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I totally want to win most of those attributes.
1:04:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But the attributes that are the most important for a central midfielder, Chevy has all of them.
1:04:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, it doesn't matter whether, yeah, to raise bigger faster, harder shop power, better passing range or whatever, Chevy does the best things in the midfielder.
1:04:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
1:04:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there is an interesting question from the chart.
1:04:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Who did that matter to this current Spain squad?
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Alan Rokane.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_04]: I just think with your mouse creativity for getting hot and getting on the end of those balls of the pace and power in behind is just match made in heaven so I think hot and as well
1:04:40
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying for me.
1:04:41
[SPEAKER_04]: I love how I take all of it.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't count that.
1:04:44
[SPEAKER_01]: K and he needs runners to Spain have no off the ball presence whatsoever.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_01]: What can he's going to play by Anna and Biden?
1:04:49
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
1:04:49
[SPEAKER_01]: If it was Niko Williams, if it was maybe last year's, that's a different conversation.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if it was that to be a pain dropping.
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't mind being the most unique to have runners frame.
1:04:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but cane dropping and feeding Niko and the Fanny Amal.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, scary.
1:05:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that an interesting option?
1:05:03
[SPEAKER_01]: But by Anna and Oyasoba, Frisbee.
1:05:07
[SPEAKER_02]: people say Kane as a false name, be crazy in Spain.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Kane is pro.
1:05:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he needs your runners.
1:05:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kane is not for me like, this is going to get into it all.
1:05:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll leave it at that because we can be here for all day.
1:05:21
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about you.
1:05:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't see guys just like that.
1:05:23
[SPEAKER_01]: No, because I was going to say I can't as a false line.
1:05:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not for me, the kind of striker that's drifting out wide and linking up play like that.
1:05:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Kane likes to drop deep.
1:05:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Find his runner in behind, long ball over the top send it.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, a guy like Benzema is more someone who can play in between the lines and drift out wide and connect with wingers.
1:05:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's more of a playmaker for me.
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Cain, if you have a team where there's no runners in behind, we saw it the last yearals.
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to play fold in in behind.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not gonna work.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_04]: He needs to have runners.
1:05:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I wanna ask you guys something quickly and dinosaur.
1:05:51
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a TikTok of a guy that said that objectively speaking Holland is the best striker ever.
1:05:56
[SPEAKER_04]: Ever.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ever, he said.
1:05:58
[SPEAKER_04]: He was very adamant on it.
1:05:59
[SPEAKER_04]: And he used a comparison with Ninja and Fortnite, finally and up, right?
1:06:02
[SPEAKER_04]: Where he was like, Ninja and season one to the early seasons of Fortnite.
1:06:06
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry if you guys aren't that familiar with it.
1:06:08
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, all that is.
1:06:09
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean, basically he was saying like, Ninja was like one of the best plays in the world if not the best play in the world before.
1:06:18
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, just, just have to bear with me, I'm sorry.
1:06:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very good.
1:06:23
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm at everybody.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In the day was the best in the world at one point, but now he lose to average players because of the way that the game has developed, right?
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_04]: He was basically comparing the video game and football.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Basically saying that online,
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[SPEAKER_04]: Vambast and those guys were great for their generation and their era and their brilliant relative to their era, Baharland objected me speaking is doing in the toughest era of football he was basically saying and he would be better than all of them.
1:06:48
[SPEAKER_04]: That was his, like, my degree was that, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think Haarland is one of the greatest.
1:06:52
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you agree with his logic?
1:06:53
[SPEAKER_04]: Personally, no.
1:06:54
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's the biggest.
1:06:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you are, you can't compare generation.
1:06:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's all he walkins better than Vambast and not.
1:07:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he plays 40 years later.
1:07:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm watching Messi at 39, do better at a wokeup than he did at 23.
1:07:08
[SPEAKER_01]: People, I think some people are too obsessed with the past, but I think just as much.
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_01]: There are some people that think everything you're watching right now is the greatest things in Slay Spread.
1:07:16
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more nuance to it than that.
1:07:17
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, that was just an honest story.
1:07:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And Ninja clearly just didn't pick up a path long enough, man.
1:07:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And these is why Bappe is better than online.
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what people are saying in the chat.
1:07:29
[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that, I mean, you're a title tier of relief, huh?
1:07:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a game of opinions.
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I will say is in Bapis, entering a conversation very quickly where there aren't many players you can say is disrespect to compare them to.
1:07:39
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, though, if he wins this World Cup, right?
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_04]: He'll go down as one of the greatest World Cup pairs out of it, maybe the best.
1:07:45
[SPEAKER_04]: But also, what does that do for his overall legacy when you're ranking footballers?
1:07:48
[SPEAKER_04]: Because international resumes so important.
1:07:50
[SPEAKER_04]: You could make the case that international resume outweighs club resume.
1:07:54
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, absolutely.
1:07:56
[SPEAKER_04]: For sure, so that if he wins in a World Cup, does he enter into those conversations of being a top ten footballer, ever?
1:08:02
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people already have him in that.
1:08:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I think there's uncomfortable conversations to be hard to be honest.
1:08:07
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, if you win the World Cup, it's up there, because if you consider a 9, wins the World Cup in 1994, it was part of the squad.
1:08:17
[SPEAKER_02]: In Win's, it's first World Cup in 2010, I would say, as one of the main men, also for members with man, other played an important role.
1:08:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Then he played a huge final in 2022.
1:08:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he wins this one, it's probably,
1:08:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he'd enter the conversation.
1:08:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Top 10.
1:08:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're looking at our guys like Shavey in the top 10.
1:08:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You see it is in the top 10 greatest one.
1:08:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I always thought, oh, unfortunately.
1:08:47
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's just me.
1:08:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I always weigh a tack as more when right.
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And then for me, I think it's better to do that attacking top 10 of all time than I think he's probably in that conversation.
1:08:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But we need to all positions.
1:08:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to...
1:08:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have like Paula Maldini a top ten for me friends back in power if you look at any historical list of greatest footballers of all time He's almost always I know about your list would you have back in about top.
1:09:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you all this for me If you're asking me what's my top ten of all time so when you're talking about all time You need to start taking historical stuff into account.
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't go off what I saw so I have to look at what they accomplish
1:09:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say, oh, I'm always going to take a talk over to Fender that sense.
1:09:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Then, watch the attacker order of the Fender.
1:09:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking at what they did.
1:09:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Beck and Bauer would have to be in my top 10.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think how many ball indoors did you win?
1:09:32
[SPEAKER_01]: The world, the world, as a center back, the World Cup captain.
1:09:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's always tough to do that kind of stuff.
1:09:36
[SPEAKER_01]: What I will say is you enter that conversation.
1:09:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And then from there, the beauty of it, like you said earlier, when you're from at the greatest place of all time, comes out of the taste, it comes on the preference, it comes onto margins.
1:09:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But the most important thing is you enter that space, you enter that room with the rest of them.
1:09:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if he does this, he will have entered that room to therefore be eligible for the discussion he would have.
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I ask you to do the top five of play, all time, no, it's time play, play your watch play, attacking play.
1:10:01
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd be the top for sure, the I watched.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Top five.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
1:10:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
1:10:07
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the leastliest.
1:10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Messy Cristiano, Neymar.
1:10:12
[SPEAKER_04]: The phenomenal.
1:10:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're not those before my time.
1:10:15
[SPEAKER_04]: What am I supposed to say?
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, you do it.
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, 2006 was when I properly started watching.
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_04]: So, oh, six onwards.
1:10:19
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I would say Messy Cristiano, Neymar.
1:10:23
[SPEAKER_04]: Swars, what do you have up there?
1:10:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can already argue about these or swars, no.
1:10:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think it's a party for me in my pays.
1:10:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be on the side.
1:10:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be on the top five.
1:10:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it probably has to be on the other side.
1:10:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You might be.
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Look out.
1:10:40
[SPEAKER_02]: in chat let us know let us know there are a lot of questions I'm gonna take some some questions sorry guys if I I didn't know people are basically calling me boomer because I didn't know who ninja was.
1:10:51
[SPEAKER_02]: No worry brother that's a good this is not a problem.
1:10:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say the time that would have happened.
1:10:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I would do this on you this one you're okay now.
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_01]: You're missing much.
1:10:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm much more.
1:10:59
[SPEAKER_04]: Here the big impact about it but
1:11:01
[SPEAKER_04]: for what when I was like 14.
1:11:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I'm excuse it.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm receiving a lot of question about ninja.
1:11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard this in hilarious.
1:11:12
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know see the video?
1:11:14
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I already fired this guy's comparison.
1:11:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God I didn't see it.
1:11:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a terrible comparison then.
1:11:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is one top 10 players all the time after this workout.
1:11:23
[SPEAKER_01]: At least this is, this is, this is the stuff you have to sit down and like really make a sound.
1:11:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Make sure you check these YouTube channels because probably in 2 hours we're going to see top 10, can you be a top 10 footballer of a ever-vada ball on the earth?
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
1:11:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you think Nemars and your top 10.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll objectively name our top 10 footballer.
1:11:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You might be a top 10 talent or how good you are.
1:11:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're making a top 10 of based on accomplishments and stuff like that, the numbers are one of the top 10 greatest ones.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would, you know, yeah, there's a note where you can be a top 10 greatest footballer about something about a ball and door.
1:11:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, a champion or a world cup.
1:11:54
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way on.
1:11:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yesterday, I met this man.
1:11:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It was in Central Park and asking people to debate him in any football topic.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I sat down and I told him,
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_01]: How is that even debatable?
1:12:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, he's unresolved.
1:12:13
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't disagree, but yeah, that's unresolved.
1:12:16
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but for me, right, when it comes down to that conversation, I would argue that you could make the case that even Cristiano underachief, the messy underachief.
1:12:25
[SPEAKER_04]: There's so many players you could make the case, could have achieved more.
1:12:28
[SPEAKER_04]: I think what it comes down to is football fans put in what could have been above what is slash what was.
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_04]: Namor regards to the fact that he could have been way more naturally, like a lot of players could have been a lot more, like the phenomenal, like most footballers.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_04]: You know the match was they still achieved so we have to go to the right Yeah, let me interrupt.
1:12:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me say goodbye to people All right, it's ITV.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That's ITV.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: You're missing out on a blasted girl.
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_02]: It's ITV.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks very much for being with us.
1:12:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to say goodbye.
1:12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
1:12:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, thank you very much look up.
1:12:57
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see you on Saturday 7 p.m. And now now we can continue easily.
1:13:02
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do it.
1:13:03
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would say now, I think I've spent all fine sometimes with a lot of people put what could have been above what was and despite the fact that the name I could have done more in this career like a lot of players could have done more.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not talking about a wasted talent like Raval Morrison or something.
1:13:17
[SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about one of the greatest footballers of all time.
1:13:20
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't disagree with the fact that our let's say you could have achieved more because I totally agree.
1:13:23
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Neymar had the potential to even be maybe the greatest footballer ever if you maximise that or in and around top one top two top three.
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_04]: But I still think he's one of the all-time grades and I think Lears, when you'd come down to like the top ten rankings, of course it depends how you value it as well.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Cabinet's trophy cabinet's matter, of course World Cup's matter, Champions League's matter, Valendor's matter,
1:13:44
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't know what metric other than pure quality, which definitely matters, by the way, right, quality is the most important thing when you're judging greatest footballers ever.
1:13:53
[SPEAKER_01]: That is the starting point to even enter the room.
1:13:56
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not one of the greatest quality players, then you can't even enter that, the door is locked.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But then once you enter that room, with so many other players of that quality, what are the things that differentiate between them?
1:14:06
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when you're looking at big moments.
1:14:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when you're looking at my house over where?
1:14:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all ticks that box.
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1:14:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
1:14:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you agree with that?
1:14:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say something exactly what I said yesterday.
1:14:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He's missing all the Champions League semi-finals.
1:14:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So many years, or even when he's playing there, not having the all-time performances, in my opinion, the absolute pinnacle of the sport guys have to kind of be having more often.
1:14:54
[SPEAKER_04]: But I would argue his best performances were up here, straight.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, peak was up here.
1:14:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not as individual.
1:14:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not what I said to look at.
1:15:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I was very clever of you.
1:15:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not as I thought.
1:15:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought about big moments.
1:15:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say his best performances is best level.
1:15:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.
1:15:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm big, my best up here, straight.
1:15:08
[SPEAKER_01]: How many big moments is he really, is he really having a PSG?
1:15:10
[SPEAKER_01]: What's his biggest moment of PSG?
1:15:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say the 1920.
1:15:13
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but what?
1:15:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Just give me a moment, and that's why he's all.
1:15:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Atta Lanta and the quarter final of the show would be at the third.
1:15:19
[SPEAKER_01]: It's at the length of the Champions League, that can't happen.
1:15:21
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a great, biggest moment you had at PSG.
1:15:23
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, I'm just naming performances by in the season after.
1:15:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just naming performances where Naima was by far in a way, the best football player on the football pitch, making the difference to the highest level.
1:15:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Then of course, he's a wonderful player, but again, I'm talking about big moments.
1:15:36
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, just being the best player on a pitch is one thing.
1:15:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Naima, I would expect him to be the best player on the pitch almost any time he steps on the field.
1:15:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, he did not play enough of those high-levels.
1:15:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a game.
1:15:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about 14, 15, then.
1:15:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going every night.
1:15:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
1:15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his greatest.
1:15:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably his.
1:15:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
1:15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're talking about greatness here.
1:15:53
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not one best.
1:15:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I told you in terms of quality, they were from the best players I've ever seen.
1:15:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about greatness now.
1:15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Busted a season in the name of it.
1:15:58
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where it is greatest season, but he doesn't have enough seasons like that in my opinion, where he's matching performances with big games, with silverware on top of that too, with statistics.
1:16:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he has enough of those seasons when all time when you're looking at it, he can put it at the top 10.
1:16:13
[SPEAKER_01]: For example, Killian and Bapé, I don't think in Bapé is as good a footballer as Namors.
1:16:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But when you're stuck up now in BAPA's career, compared to Namars, his career is going to be greater than Namars.
1:16:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Therefore, at top 10, as much as I don't think he's better than Namars, the sport, he's a greater player than he is.
1:16:27
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say that in BAN, I could agree with that.
1:16:30
[SPEAKER_04]: You could do it probably by this world cover.
1:16:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, it's two different fights.
1:16:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:16:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a different option to say goodbye to people here.
1:16:38
[SPEAKER_02]: People are asking, first of all, to us prime ninja
1:16:46
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
1:16:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand.
1:16:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Prime Ninja, Dom, this is you!
1:16:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
1:16:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if it's Ninja Nangolan, I'm gonna say Nangolan, and then, say, if we include a name-marin's conversation, we need to include.
1:17:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as a result as well.
1:17:03
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we don't.
1:17:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't.
1:17:04
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we don't.
1:17:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they're asking us to name the top 10 of this player.
1:17:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And before they say to you, I can see Lee as watching all the every game in 1930, going to every game.
1:17:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such an anchor.
1:17:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a man.
1:17:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
1:17:23
[SPEAKER_02]: One day, maybe I'll go back and watch the 1930 world.
1:17:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Long job, it is one of the least important things.
1:17:32
[SPEAKER_02]: How close do you let me in your mouth to the top five attack at least in it to start running and what did I've seen?
1:17:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean it's closer than you think though.
1:17:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, closer by you need to promote it than you think.
1:17:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Pro, you need to promote it, come on.
1:17:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we want to this, this top ten and then we go or... My parents are waiting for you.
1:17:48
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, that would be a good video, honestly, because I'd have to think of it.
1:17:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll have time, in the next episode, if Leah's parents are waiting for him, we let him go.
1:18:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much, Leah's Busy, they let me shake your hand.
1:18:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
1:18:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Lewis.
1:18:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all in the family.
1:18:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all in the family.
1:18:07
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're a good video, I want to say to this part.
1:18:09
[SPEAKER_02]: We hope to be back with Luca singing one demo on Saturday.
1:18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: 7 p.m. London time, which means... 12, midnight, London, one, Europe is going to be 5, 30 a.m. in India.
1:18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Good morning.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_04]: See you.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Ciao.
1:18:28
[SPEAKER_04]: Bye guys.