Latest / The Chris and Mike Show / #133 - Football, Movies, & More: Chris & Mike
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- 0:00The show, man. Hey, I'm with you, buddy.
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- 0:09I'm Chris. He's Mike.
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- 0:33all about to rock'n'roll, ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:55Yeah, my microphone. Doesn't I don't know why.
- 1:00It's like my microphone needs Viagra.
- 1:03I had one. I don't know where to hang it
- 1:06though, man, I don't have. I think if I could hang a hook
- 1:08for my ceiling and have it just dangle down I would do that.
- 1:11Maybe I should look into that and just have the microphone
- 1:13come down. Don't you have like a table
- 1:16sitting next to you that you can climb?
- 1:18I do but I have but it's but it's this.
- 1:20Thick bro my desk is that thick. I have AI have a. 20 at least.
- 1:26Now wait a minute. Probably a 23 year old solid oak
- 1:30desk. Well, I will measure the
- 1:32clearance of this one. I think you might be able to
- 1:34make it because it's they give you pretty, they give you a
- 1:38pretty big clearance to clamp. This it's it's as thick as this.
- 1:41Remote bro from here to here. Yeah, I think this one will do
- 1:45it. It's the Gator.
- 1:47That works. I have I I have.
- 1:48One of those I just, I just, I couldn't get it figure out how
- 1:51to make it work on my desk. So I didn't, I didn't fucking
- 1:54use it so. All right, so we're waiting for
- 1:57Duty and Gary to come on the show.
- 1:59But until he comes on the show, we're just going to have a show.
- 2:02So did you watch the Bills game? Holy shit.
- 2:05Might have been one of the best NFL games in the.
- 2:08Wow dude, 7 1/2 what? 7 minutes, 40 seconds left and
- 2:12and it's they're down 25 to 40. Well, I went to bed because I
- 2:16bet on that game. And I was, I was 100% convinced
- 2:19that I had lost the game. And so did Steele.
- 2:21He texted me the next day. He's like, hey, man, I went to
- 2:23bed thinking we lost that game. And I said, yeah, me too.
- 2:26It was 40 to 20. 5. Yeah, with.
- 2:29What 5 minutes left? It was 7-7 minutes, 40 seconds.
- 2:33It was still so I think at 5 minutes till because I think
- 2:35that's when Derrick Henry fumble.
- 2:37Yes. You're right.
- 2:39And then that and that that gave the Bills the opportunity.
- 2:41And I mean, it's, it's cool that that they came back and beat the
- 2:45Ravens because the Ravens are the Ravens, you know?
- 2:47I think it just goes to show you, you never give up on a
- 2:49football game. No, not at all.
- 2:52Unless you're the Giants and then you just stick with the
- 2:54stupid ass fucking Russell Wilson who's washed up in the
- 2:57old and slow there's. There's 12 red zone attempts for
- 3:01the Giants the first series down there.
- 3:05I think it was a second play. He hiked the ball.
- 3:07He he, he kind of he, he went to the left and there was a lane
- 3:10man that I could have drove my truck through.
- 3:13Instead, he overthrows the receiver in.
- 3:14The I know the player you're talking about.
- 3:16It's like, dude, run the ball, man.
- 3:18I said the same thing. I'm like why didn't he just run
- 3:20it into the end zone? Right.
- 3:21That changes the element of the game completely because then
- 3:24it's I think then it would have been 10/7 or 7/7.
- 3:27I don't think that. I don't think, I don't think the
- 3:30other team had 14 yet. I think it was still, I think
- 3:32they had 7. So it would have been it's high
- 3:35game at least. It's just, it's so frustrating.
- 3:38Well, the weird thing is is you guys played them tough for 1/2
- 3:41and then it's like they figured out your defense and the Giants
- 3:45didn't do anything to change it. Change it up.
- 3:48You know what I'm? Saying our, our halftime or
- 3:50that's not our, I'm sorry, their halftime adjustments don't
- 3:54exist. You look at the Steelers, right?
- 3:56Because I watch the Steelers because it's Nicky's team,
- 3:58right? The halftime adjustments that
- 4:00Tomlin makes. That's why they won the game.
- 4:03Right are are spectacular he all.
- 4:05Jets had them dominated the whole.
- 4:06Game right? And he always changes, he always
- 4:10has adjustments he makes and I just don't.
- 4:12Let me refresh it before I get my ass busted.
- 4:14They didn't dominate them, but The Jets looked like they were
- 4:17going to win that game. It was going.
- 4:19Agreed. Agreed.
- 4:21Absolutely. And that shows you Justin Fields
- 4:23is a true starting quarterback and you should have stayed in
- 4:27Pittsburgh because he went four and two and then Russell Wilson
- 4:30got healthy, so they put him in and what happened?
- 4:32They sucked the rest of the year.
- 4:34It makes me think that maybe him and Tomlinson didn't get along
- 4:37or something like they had butted heads or whatever,
- 4:39because normally Tomlinson would be all over a quarterback like
- 4:43Justin Fields. Tomlin hasn't really been all
- 4:46over a quarterback. Since Ben left, they've been
- 4:48playing quarterback, quarterback rotation or, you know, round.
- 4:52Well, I saw you guys have started 12, what is it 12
- 4:55quarterbacks in the last or 16 quarterbacks?
- 4:57Since Eli. Since Eli.
- 4:58Since like, they. Are seven years or nine years?
- 5:00It's a short amount of time. Yep.
- 5:04Daniel, you've started almost twice as many quarterbacks as
- 5:06years since Eli left. Yeah, but I don't think the
- 5:11Bears are far behind. No, no.
- 5:14They had the the. Manicasters on last night, did
- 5:16you watch that? Yeah, I love that dude.
- 5:18For anybody out there that watches regular Monday Night
- 5:22Football, I'm going to give my partner here 100% credit.
- 5:26He's the one that asked me to watch him, and I've never
- 5:28watched the regular broadcast since.
- 5:30I I love it. You learn so much about the
- 5:33game, just like we can teach you about music because we've done
- 5:36it. Those guys say things that start
- 5:39to make a whole lot more sense for me.
- 5:41When you think why is the team doing this?
- 5:43Why are they doing that? Why can't they move the ball?
- 5:46They explain why teams aren't doing that in a way that you can
- 5:49understand and they make it fun. Saquon was great on there last
- 5:53night just. I.
- 5:54I I I like the fact that that he's very home.
- 5:57Yeah, I like that he gave Eli props.
- 5:59Are teaching them how to do the back hurdle.
- 6:01Yeah. You know, 'cause you know.
- 6:03He was like a true story, man. That's true.
- 6:05Story be honest with you, I completely forgot that they
- 6:07played a season together. I did too.
- 6:10I. 'Cause it, because it's, it's
- 6:12been, it seems like so long since Eli was behind center.
- 6:16That I just. But it hasn't really been that
- 6:18long. And I guess I would be remiss
- 6:22real quick if I didn't tell everybody out there if I sound
- 6:24like I'm sick, I am. So you guys can all feel sorry
- 6:28for me. Yeah, yeah, Eli retired like.
- 6:31Shit. Eli retired in January of 2020,
- 6:35which I mean, it's just, you know, it's, it's baffling to me
- 6:38that he just, it seems like he, he would have been there.
- 6:42It seems like it's longer, but it's not.
- 6:44It does seem like it was way longer since he retired.
- 6:47That's, you know, and Seikon was drafted.
- 6:51When the fuck was he drafted? Must have been 19.
- 7:00Oh, come on. Fingers.
- 7:05I had to be. Had to be.
- 7:07Or 20. 18 So 2018 So he played with, he played.
- 7:11Him and Eli played together for two years.
- 7:13Two years. Yeah.
- 7:15All of 2018, all of 2019. And then you like well, and then
- 7:1820 because Eli retired and and well, no.
- 7:22Well, yeah, it would have been 20 season, right?
- 7:25Right. Yeah.
- 7:28That was hilarious. When Saquon made that big run
- 7:31and Eli's like I told him to, to cut it back.
- 7:34Cut it back. Peyton's like, you did not say
- 7:37that. As soon as I handed the ball
- 7:42off, I was like, cut it back. Saquon.
- 7:44Yep. Saquon.
- 7:45Yep. That's what he said.
- 7:48Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:48No, you did not say that. You did not say that.
- 7:52That's funny, man. All right, so here we're going
- 7:55to share the screen here real quick.
- 7:56I love the share screen thing, by the way.
- 7:58Dude, that's just where'd it go? Well, that's what I I was hoping
- 8:02to utilize that on the get go, but.
- 8:04Oh, there it is. Sure, when I'm getting.
- 8:05Used to it so. Took us a while to figure out
- 8:08how to run this shit. So here's the here's the here.
- 8:11So that's what it is. It's Eli Manning from their
- 8:13home. States right, they're they're
- 8:15doing this like we do this. They have an entire production
- 8:18crew in their basements. They have.
- 8:20Bad ass setups we got. They do.
- 8:22They do, right? So here's here's their schedule.
- 8:26So they don't do it every week, as you can see.
- 8:28So the Vikings and Bears, they'll come back for the Lions
- 8:30and Ravens, they'll come back for the Chiefs and Jags.
- 8:33And then they go. They do.
- 8:34They do a nice little venture in a row from Week 8 all the way to
- 8:38Week 13. They're back-to-back to back and
- 8:41then they do, they skip the 14th week, the 7th, 16th and 17th
- 8:45week, but they have, they have a a.
- 8:47Wild card game, which is cool. Guest week one guess.
- 8:50Oh shit, we miss. I miss Bill Murray, man.
- 8:53Yeah, he was on last night. Oh, I chimed in too late, I
- 8:56missed that. Damn it.
- 8:57Was he funny? Oh, he was hilarious.
- 8:58Dude, dude, Bill Murray is a just a, but I heard he's a total
- 9:01asshole in real life if you're not a superstar, like he's a
- 9:04total like, you know, don't tread on me type guy.
- 9:06But dude, it's funny as hell. Why Randy Moss is cool.
- 9:10I've always. Liked Randy Moss?
- 9:11Phil actually seemed like he didn't seem like he was.
- 9:14Maybe it's because he was talking to Peyton and Eli, but.
- 9:16That's what I'm saying. He actually did a hilarious
- 9:19Here's what's going to happen during this series of plays, he
- 9:22said. Someone's going to get
- 9:22strangled. Yeah, someone's going to get
- 9:25their neck taken out. While the very last play they
- 9:27gave him credit because it kind of looked like I got clothes
- 9:30lined. Oh, right on.
- 9:32He was just funny. He was making shit up trying to
- 9:34do a play by play. Like who was the Dennis Miller?
- 9:37Remember when he did Monday Night Football and it was just a
- 9:39boss? I think he was kind of half
- 9:41making fun of the Dennis Miller era.
- 9:43Well, Dennis Miller was too smart.
- 9:46For the world, that was the problem with Dennis Miller.
- 9:49I think in my opinion, he tried to be funny and serious at the
- 9:53same time and you can't do both right.
- 9:56Right, Yeah, Dennis, Dennis Miller's humor, was he just
- 10:00that's. He's just, he's a very
- 10:03intelligent. Comedian, if that makes any
- 10:06sense. Right, Yeah.
- 10:08For those you don't know who Dennis Miller is, he started the
- 10:10SSNL days and he's just, he's just a very intelligent
- 10:14comedian. So some of his stuff just goes
- 10:16over your head if you don't, if you don't have any.
- 10:19I don't want to say if you don't have any smarts, but it just
- 10:22doesn't. It doesn't translate if you
- 10:24don't, if you don't have that kind of mind.
- 10:29Mind. I guess so, yeah.
- 10:31Where he is, that's. Let's see what he's doing now,
- 10:35shall we? He's the host of a docu series
- 10:38for Fox. Which is weird.
- 10:41I wonder what that's about. He was on SNL.
- 10:47He left SNL. He's there from from.
- 10:49Oh yeah, I remember. Dennis Miller live show.
- 10:51That's right. That was pretty cool.
- 10:53That was a cool show. And then when I had football for
- 10:56only two years, only two. Years and when I had football
- 10:58again just because the simple fact that.
- 11:00He's 'cause he sucked. Yeah, he just, he tried.
- 11:03He didn't they tried, they tried to get, I think they're they
- 11:07were losing ratings 'cause that's when all the NFL started
- 11:10started changing how how the. Oh for sure, they were going
- 11:15downhill during that. Time 100%.
- 11:17Which is, you're right, that's why they brought him on, was to
- 11:20try to get our generation to start watching football because
- 11:25I think the baby boomers had given up on it.
- 11:27For what? I don't remember the reason why,
- 11:29but was there a strike or something?
- 11:31I think so. I think so.
- 11:32And then and then, yeah. That was about the time people
- 11:36started saying these overpaid athletes were, you know, they
- 11:41started kind of boycotting professional sports because, you
- 11:44know, these guys are overpaid now they're out on strike and
- 11:47blah, blah, blah. And they didn't realize until we
- 11:50saw the dark side of football that these guys were, you know,
- 11:54going after a better life is. Yeah.
- 11:58A better life for football. But I think that because of the
- 12:02strike and they implemented the NFL Players Association.
- 12:05So they've they've had two strikes now, right?
- 12:08One of which I think was during the offseason.
- 12:10And but every time the collective bargaining agreement
- 12:12comes up, it changes. It changes what they do.
- 12:14Like you don't, you don't What impressed me the most about the
- 12:17Bills on the Hard Knocks, right? They practice gameplay in their
- 12:22stadium, in their in their home field during preseason, right?
- 12:26Like they're full blown going at each other.
- 12:28Just like we mocked being in a concert hall for the rehearsal
- 12:33before a gig, right? It's like we're going to, we're
- 12:35going to play through the set. We're going to do it just like
- 12:37we did it before. That's smart.
- 12:40But I don't think other teams do that as much as the Bills do.
- 12:42I don't but what I. Do either.
- 12:44What I think? That does, and I'm not a
- 12:46football. Players I don't.
- 12:47Pretend to be. But what I think that does is is
- 12:49it acclimates your body to getting drilled.
- 12:52And taking hits and the full contact stuff with it, you know,
- 12:55granted they're not going after Josh Allen because he's a
- 12:57quarterback, but everybody else, it's real speed, it's real time.
- 13:00And and with the collective bargaining agreement as it is
- 13:04now. They don't do 2 days now, they
- 13:07don't do full pad practices all week, they don't hit each other
- 13:10like they used to. Well, let me squirrel away.
- 13:12Let me squirrel away from that. Squirrel away.
- 13:14Squirrel away. I think the reason that other
- 13:16teams aren't doing that are the same reason that I'm going to
- 13:20ask you this question. OK.
- 13:23Would you let anybody you cared about at this point in your life
- 13:26play football or would you try and dissuade them?
- 13:32Say little man grows up and he wants to play football and he
- 13:34says, Grandpa, I want to play whatever he calls you.
- 13:37Pop pop pop pop pop pop. I want to play football.
- 13:40OK, Anthony, No, because Anthony's not an.
- 13:42Athlete now if Trip wants to do it.
- 13:46Trip would be a hollow football player.
- 13:48You can already tell because how how he's built.
- 13:50He's like this little, tiny little tank and he takes no shit
- 13:54from anybody. Like but let me let me give you
- 13:56a real life example. OK, OK.
- 13:59And we can have him on here. I probably should.
- 14:01So my nephew lives right next door.
- 14:03Yeah, let's have your nephew on. We need to.
- 14:05Get him. We need to get him in here.
- 14:06Sit in this chair. Yeah.
- 14:08Yeah. So he went out for football last
- 14:10year and just for something to do, right?
- 14:13He loves baseball, but he wanted to stay active, you know, during
- 14:18the offseason or whatever. So he goes out for football.
- 14:21And I don't know, I think it was maybe he hadn't played a game
- 14:26yet. So let's say he's three weeks
- 14:28into summer practice, right? So they start in like August or
- 14:33whatever. In their infinite wisdom in
- 14:37practice, for some odd reason, they were doing like live
- 14:40tackling drills, right? Oklahoma Drill.
- 14:44Something like that. I'm, I'm, I'd watch football.
- 14:47I'm a moron when it comes to knowing what they're doing
- 14:50right. Oklahoma drills You line up
- 14:51between the the you, you put the.
- 14:54The pads that I, I know what they're called, but the dummies,
- 14:57right? The dummies that you you block
- 14:58again, right? You line them up like a railroad
- 15:00and then in between there you have you have the baller, the
- 15:04guy with the ball and the tackler.
- 15:05And well, in this case, they must have been playing offense,
- 15:08defense. OK, OK, because one of the
- 15:11little assholes on his team speared him with his helmet
- 15:16right into his leg. Broke, broke both the bones in
- 15:20his leg. Oh, in two places.
- 15:22His fibula and his tibia. Tibula, Tibula.
- 15:25Tibula. Yeah.
- 15:26Tibia Tibia I broke. My SO now he has a rod in his
- 15:29leg. Luckily.
- 15:31Luckily, he went to Laurie's Children's Hospital up in
- 15:34Chicago, and apparently the surgeon was outstanding.
- 15:38OK, but just that one day, man changed his life forever.
- 15:42Now he's got a rod in his leg he never got to play a game.
- 15:45Like, that's how quickly your life can change playing
- 15:47football. That's why I bring this up.
- 15:49Yeah, no, I agree. It's it's it's totally can
- 15:51change on a dime. Jake.
- 15:53Jake played football, loves football.
- 15:54You know what was Nicki reaction?
- 15:57To that because most of the time.
- 15:58She wanted, she wanted, she, she wanted him to be more baseball,
- 16:02but we kind of let he wanted to play football.
- 16:03So we're like, OK, hindsight 2020, we probably would have.
- 16:07Wanted him to kind of do both on a regular basis because he was
- 16:10athletic. He is athletic.
- 16:13We had. Did he end up playing baseball?
- 16:15He played baseball. For a few seasons he actually
- 16:18hit a home run on his 8th birthday. 8 year old birthday on
- 16:20his the day. That's the only time I had a
- 16:21home run to his in Little League.
- 16:24Well, the the cool thing is this thing, this thing line drived me
- 16:27too it, didn't it? Did Jake and I had the same home
- 16:30run? Yeah.
- 16:30It never got out. It barely got off the ground.
- 16:33It cleared the fence by about that much.
- 16:34I'm showing about 3 inches, ladies and gentlemen.
- 16:37Yep, we had a thing though with football because I coached, I
- 16:42coached him from from flag football all the way up to
- 16:44before he was in high school and I was a big, I was a big
- 16:48proponent on heads up football, which is what you get taught by
- 16:51USA football. I had to take all those courses
- 16:52and stuff, the proper tackling technique, what not Actually had
- 16:56a kid that would consistently put his head down a tackle and I
- 16:59had to sit him down. His dad got all pissed off and
- 17:01shit was, you know, pissing contest measuring Dicks and
- 17:04stuff. I'm like.
- 17:04Look dude, like he. Acted like I was cussing of
- 17:07practice and stuff and I'm like you can just go away dude.
- 17:09I mean his dad was a deck, just a total deck when all he was
- 17:12doing was trying. To protect his son.
- 17:16But he was. Just one of those dads that, you
- 17:17know, he also was a cop. So he had that short man I'm a
- 17:20cop syndrome. And if you're out there, yeah,
- 17:21I'm talking to you. Just a total deck.
- 17:25Like there was like accused me of like yelling at the kids and
- 17:28swearing at the kids and stuff. And I'm like, I don't know who
- 17:30you think you're talking about. No, I would not.
- 17:32Now have. I lost my shit with my own kids
- 17:35growing up in my house. What the fuck are you doing?
- 17:38Absolutely, who doesn't? But it's not something I would
- 17:42ever do on a field with 30 little kids playing football,
- 17:46'cause I was all about everybody touches the ball and offense,
- 17:50Everybody has an opportunity to play.
- 17:51Nobody rides my bench. Listen dude, even sweet Mama Kay
- 17:56has what we call her Wild woman act.
- 17:58I'm sure she does. Yeah.
- 17:59Everybody's got their breaking point, man.
- 18:01Yeah, yeah, yeah. But.
- 18:02We all found it. This guy was just that Dick.
- 18:05So we had a rule with Jake that you get 3 concussions, you're
- 18:09done. Like he's just done.
- 18:10So his first one, he got his bell rung in in the Oklahoma
- 18:13drill. And just just to help people
- 18:15understand. What the Oklahoma drill is Here
- 18:19we go. Yes.
- 18:21This is the Oklahoma drill. Now.
- 18:25This is college, but that's the Oklahoma drill.
- 18:30OK, you're full. Now.
- 18:31Typically you don't have a blocker.
- 18:34Typically it's just a running back running.
- 18:37So these guys are giving a blocker.
- 18:38But the true drill, you don't have a blocker in the way.
- 18:42You just have offense and defense and you got to stay
- 18:45between those two pylons. If you can't go to the outside,
- 18:47you can't jump over. If you do, it's out of bounds.
- 18:50But that's that's the Oklahoma drill, OK.
- 18:54So you're practicing running through the block.
- 18:56Correct. OK.
- 18:58But. The true the true drill that we
- 19:01did as coaches. When I coached the team.
- 19:04You don't have a blocker. The whole idea is the guy with
- 19:06the with the ball is is trying to elude the tackler.
- 19:09OK. So this is this is the.
- 19:12Professional side of it, right? Or the college.
- 19:14Side of it. But there's, there's other ones.
- 19:16I'm sure that that there's this funny one I saw not too long ago
- 19:21with dads and kids that I mean, is he gonna find it dads versus
- 19:27kids? Because it legit it's it's, it's
- 19:29what you think. Man.
- 19:33Dad's OK, Let's see if this is it, yeah.
- 19:41This is the Oklahoma drill that we do.
- 19:45That's hilarious. He's like, screw that man, I'm
- 19:50going the other way. Go, dude.
- 19:58Come on. Yeah.
- 20:00Oh, that's adorable, man. Yeah, right.
- 20:02Because mom's like what? What?
- 20:06That little guy's got moved. Hey, since we're talking
- 20:15football, before I forget. Yeah.
- 20:20This will blow your. Mind.
- 20:22OK, OK, this is over. So that's Oklahoma drill man.
- 20:27I couldn't believe this, but this is a fact.
- 20:29So passing yards and passing touchdowns in the twenty 20s
- 20:34decade, right? So just in the 20 twenties, Tom
- 20:40Brady has passed for 16,864 yards and 123 touchdowns.
- 20:46Well, in the Twenty 20's the entire Chicago Bears team, every
- 20:51quarterback has passed for 15,454 yards and 102 touchdowns.
- 20:58Wow. This article would like to
- 21:00remind you that Tom Brady retired after the 2022 season at
- 21:0445 1/2 years of age. So the Chicago Bears have played
- 21:08two entire years that Tom Brady did not play and he still has
- 21:13more than 1000 passing yards and 21 more touchdowns.
- 21:19Wow then the entire Chicago Bears organization.
- 21:22So OK, what I like to say is do better.
- 21:28One guy is kicking your entire team's ass.
- 21:31Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 21:35It's embarrassed. So they did a thing.
- 21:41I'm sure you saw this. The the the the video, the Video
- 21:51Music Awards did. AI watched a lot of that, to be
- 21:54honest with you, 'cause I wanted to see the Ozzy tribute and it
- 21:58was very cool, man. They yeah, I've I've seen some
- 22:01negative bullshit online, but I thought it was.
- 22:05Amazing. I think the biggest negativity
- 22:08is the fact this this like I bought Youngblood stuff after
- 22:13seeing the the the final concert that Ozzy did right because I
- 22:19thought, OK, this this guy's legit.
- 22:20He doesn't do any originals, man.
- 22:22And the original. He does do originals but they
- 22:23suck. I agree.
- 22:25So, and I'm not dissing youngblood boys and girls, but I
- 22:28he's riding the coattails of Ozzy, which is fine.
- 22:32Ozzy endorsed him. Ozzy loved him from what we
- 22:35could see in some of the stuff. Can I interject her?
- 22:39Yes, absolutely. I think what you're trying to
- 22:42say is that he is not the answer to the next Ozzy Oz.
- 22:46No, he's not. Is that what you're trying to
- 22:48say? Yeah.
- 22:50I agree with you, Yeah, You've said that before, and then that
- 22:53I agree with you in spades. Yeah, because he's got a good
- 22:57presence. He's got a good voice.
- 22:58You know Nuno. Did awesome Nuno killed that?
- 23:03Unbelievable. He is one of the best guitar
- 23:05players walking the planet tonight.
- 23:06Yeah, he doesn't get enough credit, man.
- 23:08And that's just because Extreme wasn't really ever, you know,
- 23:13super popular. They were good, but they weren't
- 23:15like. No, I know what.
- 23:16You're saying Yeah, yeah, yeah. That first stream record blew my
- 23:21mind. Yeah.
- 23:22Oh yeah. Porno graffiti decade.
- 23:25A decadence or decadence? That's what it was.
- 23:27Yeah. Man, that song kicks ass.
- 23:30Yep, Yeah. Who else?
- 23:33Steven Tyler up there. It's new know Steven Tyler comes
- 23:36on. I don't know who the drummers.
- 23:39That's playing up there. I didn't either.
- 23:43Let's see if it says it doesn't say who's back there.
- 23:52Joe Perry comes on with Steven Tyler for Mama.
- 23:54I saw that part. Listen, I was I.
- 23:57Know. Just perfection dude, that's so
- 24:12hard. Well, and it's, it's, it's, it's
- 24:16like Randy Rhodes is on the stage, man.
- 24:18He couldn't have played that any better if he tried, man.
- 24:21No, he couldn't. I was so.
- 24:22Proud of him. Uh huh.
- 24:25You know how nervous you'd be up there playing Two Dead Guys
- 24:28songs that were living legends? Everybody knows every note to
- 24:33that Solo if you love Ozzy. Oh yeah.
- 24:35And then so so this is where he's writing to me.
- 24:38This is the changes he he covered at the concert, the
- 24:41tribute concert, Ozzy when you know this last show, this is
- 24:45what propelled him to the into the.
- 24:46World, I think, because I never heard of him before that.
- 24:49Yeah, I do too. And I love how he does it.
- 24:51I've. Lost my best.
- 24:56Friend, but I never heard of him before until until.
- 24:58He did that cover. Yeah, nor had I.
- 25:01Yeah. So it must be he must be from.
- 25:04England and must have some ties to the Osmores or somewhere.
- 25:10Nuno's got like bluesy in him, man.
- 25:13He can play anything. Yeah.
- 25:15Because that sounds bluesy. Right there what he was doing.
- 25:21Not all of us heavy metal guys can just play heavy metal.
- 25:24We just choose to. Yeah, I love the Blues too.
- 25:31I've tried to sing the Blues, man.
- 25:32I just can't. I don't have that that sorrow in
- 25:35me. Well, I think you said it best
- 25:39100 episodes ago. You're more of a Southern rock
- 25:41guy and I never really put two and two together, but you do
- 25:44have a very Southern rock dialect to your singing.
- 25:49Yeah, I didn't. I didn't even know that either
- 25:51until we were in Nashville with that last band I was in.
- 25:53And the, the sound guys, they're like, you know.
- 25:57Southern rock, huh? I'm like, what are you talking
- 25:58about? He's like, dude, you, you, you
- 26:00got a southern rock edge. Where you from?
- 26:02I'm like. Arizona like what?
- 26:05I think that's what gives your songs legitimacy though, is
- 26:09you're not just singing them, you're feeling them.
- 26:12You know, Oh yeah, always. So I was a little worried about.
- 26:16Steven Tyler singing may turn, and then he his, and then he.
- 26:21He kind of, he kind of redeems. He did the best he could with
- 26:26what he's got left. Man.
- 26:28Yeah, that's what that's what I was worried.
- 26:30I was proud of like. Yeah.
- 26:32I was proud of both of those guys.
- 26:34Too, man, Absolutely. It takes a lot of guts to get up
- 26:39there when you know your voice is not 100%.
- 26:41Yeah, especially it's it's Steven Tyler.
- 26:45I mean, he's. He's well, you know, better than
- 26:46anybody. Being a singer, how nervous
- 26:48would you be? Like if you felt like I did
- 26:50right now and you had to go out and sing, right?
- 26:55Yeah, I would still do it, but I get what you're saying.
- 27:11Man, it's just it's still hard to believe we live in a world
- 27:13without Eddie Van Halen, Ozzy Osbourne, Prince.
- 27:21That that was happy. I was happy with that man.
- 27:23Like right on me too. That's the Steven Tyler we know
- 27:27and love. Yeah, I saw them twice and they
- 27:31blew me away. Yeah, I saw them on there.
- 27:44Yeah. Yeah, what a what?
- 28:00A freaking medal in songs for Ozzy, man.
- 28:03He just wrote one banger after another.
- 28:06Imagine how much stuff he has unreleased.
- 28:12I would like to know. Yeah, agreed.
- 28:24Still blows me away that let me wrote that song.
- 28:32What are the hardest fucking most, you know, visually intense
- 28:37humans on Earth, right? Then get some more intense
- 28:39motorheads. Right, this little sappy song
- 28:43about. Going home?
- 28:46Yeah. What did he say?
- 28:47He made more money with those five songs he wrote for Ozzy
- 28:50than in his entire Motörhead career.
- 28:52And it wasn't even. Gross.
- 28:54Yep. Yeah, I really thought it was a
- 29:07really good tribute, man. Agreed.
- 29:10How many times exactly? Really.
- 29:11In the same sentence, Mike. Same fucking just I do.
- 29:15I just, I don't know what to say, man.
- 29:17It was. It's absolutely fantastic.
- 29:21I went into those VMAs expecting to turn it off immediately and I
- 29:25watched most of it so. Kudos.
- 29:28I didn't watch it because I'm, I'm so tired of MTV not being
- 29:31MTV. You know, like you, you exist
- 29:34for one sole purpose and you stopped that.
- 29:36You went, you went off the grid and decided that you're going to
- 29:39do TV shows and shit, You know, you know why they lost?
- 29:44They lost me. They're cheap, they can produce,
- 29:47and they make a fuck ton of money.
- 29:49They they are. But you're, you're, you need, I
- 29:52know we've said it, we've said it before, you need, there needs
- 29:54to be a channel just dedicated like a streaming app on TV, just
- 29:59dedicated to everything, music, all the concerts, all the
- 30:02videos, all the bands and documentaries.
- 30:04I think that would be well received by the public.
- 30:08You don't you don't have that at your fingertips anymore.
- 30:11You can go to YouTube Music and you can you can search for
- 30:13stuff, which I've done a few times.
- 30:15But it would just be cool to have an A streaming app that you
- 30:18have all the genres listed. Yeah.
- 30:20And in sub categories with the biographies and documentaries
- 30:23and where are they now stuff. And then they're, you know,
- 30:26catalog of just of their albums and their videos and their
- 30:29tours. I just think that would be so
- 30:31cool, you know, especially people who love music and it
- 30:34doesn't. And it doesn't just have to be
- 30:36rock it. It can be everything.
- 30:38Yeah, just. Everything across the board.
- 30:41But you know. That's actually a great idea.
- 30:44I thought it was a great. Idea too.
- 30:45They could call music television.
- 30:47Yeah, Oh, oh, we'd have to. We'd have to change the name,
- 30:52probably Television de Musica. I like it.
- 30:55We'd launch it on launch it on a Cuba, and Tony Montana can be
- 30:59the first DJ, the political refugee from Cuba.
- 31:02I had to leave the country because the music was not
- 31:05satisfying. I came to Miami.
- 31:08What's she talking about? I got octopus coming out of my
- 31:10head, man. OK, OK.
- 31:15So that's so. And then you hear, I don't know
- 31:17what happened with Roger Waters. You hear about that stuff?
- 31:22Roger Waters is a fucking asshole.
- 31:24Right, but I don't know what Roger Waters did to piss off.
- 31:29He said that he could give a fuck about Ozzy Osbourne or
- 31:32Black Sabbath and his lunacy and his idiocy on television never
- 31:39really amounted to anything, is basically what he said.
- 31:42Wow. And Jack basically said, my dad
- 31:46always said you were a cunt. Thank you for proving him right.
- 31:50And for those of you that heard me say that word, they say that
- 31:54a lot in England. It's a adjective.
- 31:56You're a good cunt. You're a bad cunt if you don't
- 31:59know of anybody from overseas you don't understand.
- 32:01I'd I'd need to, I make. I have to reiterate that
- 32:04because. You do.
- 32:05That's an adjective outside the United States.
- 32:08It's true because I sold the house to.
- 32:10A lady that's from England and then she said that one day and I
- 32:13was. Like Oh my God, what?
- 32:15And she's like, don't worry about it.
- 32:16It's it's like you just said. It's.
- 32:18A fag, right? It's the same as it's the same
- 32:21as shit here. Yeah, shit or bitch is is
- 32:23equivalent to that there. So this is what Jack had to say.
- 32:27Come on, Jack, maybe not. Jack, Jack.
- 32:32Hello, Jack. Hello, Jack.
- 32:34Hello, Jack. Doesn't want to.
- 32:36Play that Jack, it doesn't want to play that one.
- 32:39I was just playing it. And of all people that said it,
- 32:43and I don't know, it's always stuck, stuck with me.
- 32:45Actually, I, I shared this at my father's funeral, and it was
- 32:52there's an interview with Keanu Reeves.
- 32:54He's on some nighttime talk show, whatever.
- 32:57And they asked him, what do you think happens when you die?
- 33:02And he goes, I don't know what Keanu Reeves answer was.
- 33:04I don't know what happens when you die.
- 33:06But what I do know is the people that love you miss you the most.
- 33:09Yeah. Says Jack.
- 33:14So. True.
- 33:14There it is I woke up in Los Angeles to a knock on my house
- 33:19door at around 3:45 in the morning.
- 33:23Someone who's worked for my family, for God, probably 30
- 33:26years now, was was knocking on my door when I look through the
- 33:31my window and I saw it was him. I just knew I knew something bad
- 33:36had happened. And I was informed that, you
- 33:39know, my father had passed. Yeah.
- 33:48So I immediately, I don't know, just.
- 33:54Type in Jack Osbourne, Roger Waters.
- 33:56That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing.
- 33:59So many thoughts. All right, let's see.
- 34:05I don't know if he publicly he made it.
- 34:08I saw I saw it on Instagram. Yeah, I don't know if he said it
- 34:11like audibly though. No, I saw it on Instagram like
- 34:15legit I saw the the short on Instagram.
- 34:18He just he just go buy it that one.
- 34:21I think so. If you're a man who makes at
- 34:26least 150 KA year and you feel self-conscious about your gut
- 34:29sticking out this guy, I'll get you shredded or you won't pay
- 34:31it. Roger Waters has responded to
- 34:33Jack Osbourne's post defending his late father, Ozzy Osbourne.
- 34:36Roger. Obviously.
- 34:37Appeared on the Independent Ink podcast where he ranted about
- 34:40celebrities distracting people from bigger issues.
- 34:43While talking, he suddenly turned to Ozzy Roger, said Ozzy
- 34:46Osbourne, who just passed away. Bless him in his whatever state
- 34:49that he was in his whole time, we'll never know.
- 34:51Although he was all over the TV for hundreds of years with his
- 34:54nonsense, the music, I have no idea.
- 34:56I couldn't careless. He went even further by
- 34:59dismissing Black Sabbath entirely and mocking Aussie's
- 35:01infamous bat incident. Roger said.
- 35:03I don't care about Black Sabbath.
- 35:05I never did. That level of disrespect, coming
- 35:07only weeks after Aussie's passing on July 22nd, shocked
- 35:10fans and sparked a massive online backlash.
- 35:13Jack wasted no time defending his father.
- 35:15He took to social media and wrote.
- 35:17Hey Roger Waters, forget you. How out of touch you've become.
- 35:20The only way you seem to get a intention these days is by
- 35:22spitting nonsense in the press. My father always thought you
- 35:25were a loser. Thanks for proving him right.
- 35:27Jackson Post included the hashtag Forget Roger Waters,
- 35:30which I. I I know.
- 35:34Said my dad always said you were a cunt.
- 35:36Thanks for proving him right. Right.
- 35:39And Ozzy loved Pink Floyd's music just for.
- 35:41Oh yeah, yeah. But to call Black Sabbath
- 35:47irrelevant? Yeah, they only started an
- 35:52entire genre of music, just like Pink Floyd did, right?
- 35:56Yeah. I think that's pretty
- 35:59disrespectful for somebody of his stature.
- 36:02And I will say so that I don't get a bunch of hate.
- 36:04Rodger Waters is one of the best songwriters to ever grace an
- 36:07instrument. He is.
- 36:08Yeah, but he is, absolutely. His ego got bigger than his
- 36:12talent so therefore he's a Dick. Right.
- 36:16Yep, which is why Pink Floyd will never be Pink Floyd again.
- 36:20Because Roger Waters. Well, Pink Floyd became David
- 36:24Gilmour, and Roger Waters got all pissed off about that
- 36:27because David Gilmour apparently is a decent human being and
- 36:31people. Love him.
- 36:33And I think also what makes Roger Waters mad, and a lot of
- 36:36people don't know this, is Roger Waters wrote Comfortably Numb
- 36:40and Gilmore stole it away from him by writing two of the
- 36:43greatest guitar solos ever written in one song.
- 36:47Dude you ain't lying man if. It doesn't take me, it takes me
- 36:51a 10th of a second when somebody asked me as a guitar player,
- 36:54which I get asked all the time. What is your favorite guitar
- 36:56solo? Comfortably.
- 36:58No. Both of them.
- 37:01There it is, right there too. So, and that's my favorite
- 37:06version. It's unbelievable, dude.
- 37:11Hello. Is there anybody in?
- 37:26There. It'll be interesting to see how
- 37:27much of this comes through the. Show when we release it.
- 37:30Oh, I'm sure we'll get all caught up, but that's the only
- 37:35way we're going to know. So I'm having fun.
- 37:38Yeah, Few people aren't paying for this content, so if it gets
- 37:45cut up, it gets cut up. Yeah, and just so you know,
- 37:51those watching on Twitch and YouTube, this is Mike and I's
- 37:53absolute passion in life is music and talking music.
- 37:59So for showing you today, we apologize.
- 38:01We didn't have a guy supposed to come on.
- 38:03I don't know how to do it, just you know.
- 38:07I don't think we're boring. If you want to learn about
- 38:09music, where are your guys? Yeah, then I used to.
- 38:15Then I used to say this. On the stage before a song, he
- 38:18used to come out and say something like I have to.
- 38:21Come, come for a number. For you did something.
- 38:23You did. I thought so.
- 38:26I thought so. I had a fever.
- 38:48I always thought he said tubaloos.
- 38:49I was like what the fuck is a tubaloo?
- 38:53Remember when you were a kid, you got to when you were really
- 38:54sick with fevers and it kind of felt like your hands were light?
- 38:58That's what I always equated that to that.
- 39:05I actually just felt it again Saturday and Sunday night.
- 39:09Congratulations how they come comfortably now.
- 39:15Here we go. Here comes one solo.
- 39:24Hurry up boy girls, so. I can see the.
- 39:27Turn this up. Boys and girls, just turn it up.
- 39:30Is that bigger now? Yeah.
- 39:31There you go. That is a master at work.
- 39:46Do you see my lighter? I do Old school, brother, old
- 39:52school. That's what the whole crowd
- 39:57looked like back in our day, ladies and gentlemen.
- 39:59Yep. Not all these phones, no.
- 40:11A little. Sick can you stand?
- 40:18Up This is 1 of Skyler's favorite movies from all.
- 40:21That's awesome. Can't tell she grew up with a
- 40:25musician. No.
- 40:26Nikki hates it because of the meat grinding scene.
- 40:41I wish I would have got to see, you know.
- 40:43All right. Me too, man.
- 40:45That. Just looks one of the man 1.
- 40:48Of the man that never saw us. I know what he's talking about.
- 41:37Here we go again. Yup, Yup, Yup.
- 41:40Turn it up. This has one of my favorite
- 41:48licks ever towards the end. Look at the the.
- 42:07Drummer's face, man, he's just in heaven.
- 42:10Oh yeah, he's sitting in the drum with a.
- 42:12Smile on his. Face.
- 42:13Because he gets to listen to that every night.
- 42:19Just so beautiful raw. Emotion.
- 42:37I got. Goosebumps like 2 inches high.
- 43:05A drummer still cheesing. That's the lick.
- 43:41Yep. I love how he gets in and out of
- 43:49that. Yeah.
- 44:46Those are all full step bends. Nice.
- 44:58Those are all perfect. Half step bends, more full step
- 45:05bends. Yeah.
- 45:08That shit has to be perfect. Damn it.
- 45:46I've heard that thing 5000 times in my life and I never get tired
- 45:49of it. Nope, never.
- 45:51It's just perfection man. And you played my favorite
- 45:54version from the Pulse DVD. Yeah.
- 45:56Oh yeah. That is just perfection, man.
- 46:01And there's so many times people don't know as a, as a composer,
- 46:06there is so many times in that solo where that thing could have
- 46:09been a complete train wreck. And he just pulls himself out of
- 46:12it and back into it and out of it and back into it just over
- 46:15and over and over again. To the point where if that
- 46:18guitar was in anybody else's hands other than maybe Slash,
- 46:23they would have ruined that whole section of that song.
- 46:26Because that's a lot of ground to cover playing a solo and not
- 46:30boring the shit out of people. Think of November Rain, right?
- 46:33That's another one of my favorite solos, right?
- 46:35Make you cry. Yeah.
- 46:37That's why I say if you put that section in Slash's hands, he
- 46:40probably would have done something very similar.
- 46:42But yeah, you can't give that length of time to just anybody,
- 46:46man. And David Gilmour knocked it out
- 46:47of the fucking park. Yes, he did.
- 46:50Jeez, and he just let. Him come home, come on the show
- 46:53anytime, Dave you. Know yeah, you're welcome here
- 46:54anytime. You're welcome, You're welcome,
- 46:56You're welcome. If you keep practicing, you're
- 46:58going to make something of yourself.
- 46:59You are David, you are man. Keep it up dude.
- 47:01Do not give up. Man, that was Scott's line.
- 47:04We would be listening to Stevie Ray Vaughan and he's like, call
- 47:06me crazy, but if that guy keeps practicing, he's going to be
- 47:09something. OK, so I'm going to whoops.
- 47:12Stop, Stop. Stop.
- 47:13Pause. Pause.
- 47:14I'm going to show you something. Hold on one minute.
- 47:20This is one of my favorite bands that just came out with a new
- 47:22song. They're not coming to Arizona.
- 47:26Not very happy about that. Oh, this song kicks ass.
- 47:31They went metal, man. Yeah, and.
- 47:34I like the fact that they're all a band of goatees.
- 47:37Right now, which is kind of funny.
- 47:41It's because they're recording in 5150.
- 47:43Yes, Yep, the entire album. Wolfgang opened up the studio.
- 47:53Yeah, they they said that they went from just like wanting to
- 47:58use the studio to being in there 13 hours a day with the doors
- 48:02locked. Brian Marshall is wearing a Rush
- 48:09T-shirt. That's badass.
- 48:15For people who don't know Alter Bridge.
- 48:17I mean, you know Creed because Creed's Creed.
- 48:19So you got an Alter Bridge by now?
- 48:20Mark Dramonte. Is is one of the all time
- 48:23greatest guitar players. If you don't, if you don't
- 48:26understand music, you don't know that.
- 48:29But the dude is just unbelievable.
- 48:31No question he's one of my favorites of the new of the new
- 48:35legend. Yeah, and the cool thing about
- 48:37him before every concert, he does this thing called fret 12.
- 48:41He'll he you can, you can pay to have a a lesson from him before
- 48:45the show. Oh.
- 48:46That's awesome. Yeah, I'm part of the I'm part
- 48:49of the Blackbird fan club. So there's all kinds of little
- 48:52things you see in the back end of it.
- 48:53That's one of them. Never thought about that.
- 48:56But yeah, it's. A really cool idea.
- 48:59You know. They need a good album.
- 49:06They've had a couple, so I'm hoping this sets the tone for
- 49:10that album. I like it.
- 49:18I put her on, I think I put her on Chris on Mike's show page.
- 49:21Yeah, that's where I heard it the first time.
- 49:23Yeah, OK. I'm a subscriber.
- 50:09There's no. I dig that.
- 50:38That was a cool breakdown section man, right?
- 50:44Fun way to get into the solo. Yeah.
- 50:55And for those who don't know, Miles Kennedy can shred right
- 50:58along with Hermani. He's not as good as Hermani, but
- 51:00on stage live shows when they're soloing back and forth is
- 51:04fucking unbelievable. Oh, Miles is a badass guitar.
- 51:06Oh yeah, and he's jazz. He's tragically classically
- 51:09trained with jazz too, so that's even gives him a whole new
- 51:11element. And he's been hanging around
- 51:16with two of the best guitar players walking for the last 20
- 51:20years. Yeah. 25 years,
- 51:37Yeah. Mark Tremonti has been a
- 51:38workhorse for 30 years. He just loves playing guitar,
- 51:45which I appreciate. Me too.
- 51:58That's sick man. Just so smooth.
- 52:04Yep. Should have been me, damn it, I
- 52:17was there first. I know, right?
- 52:19Should have been Ultra Bridge, ladies and gentlemen.
- 52:23I beat him by. The best bands three years Best
- 52:25bands around. Absolutely.
- 52:27I agree with you and I give you full credit.
- 52:29You're the one that made me go back and listen to him.
- 52:32Yeah, they're just, yeah, good band.
- 52:36So we had, I'm going to, we're going to wrap this up, but I'm
- 52:39going to. We had a guy that was supposed
- 52:41to be on our show last week and unfortunately the night before
- 52:47he his wife, they felt like she had a stroke.
- 52:53So I've I've continued to talk to him and he said and he said
- 52:56an update today because I asked him how his wife was doing and
- 52:59he's like thank you. Thank you so much for checking
- 53:01up. She was released just yesterday
- 53:03and they didn't find a stroke. However, she is still paralyzed
- 53:06on her right side. Her hand and mouth have come
- 53:08back, but her leg needs therapy and she cannot walk as of now.
- 53:13She now has to go see a neurologist to find out why and
- 53:16what is going on. It's going to be a long recovery
- 53:18but hopefully she'll get back to a full recovery.
- 53:21And he goes on to say he'd love to reschedule to come on the
- 53:23show. And I, I responded back Glad
- 53:25she's home. We gave you guys a shout on the
- 53:26show. Wish you the best.
- 53:28Continued good thoughts and prayers.
- 53:31And he responds back. Thank you so much.
- 53:32That means the world to me. I was like, it's just humans
- 53:35being humans man. He's like, I know, but you guys
- 53:38rock so. Again, thoughts and prayers for.
- 53:40Shawn Watson's wife, I don't know her name because we never
- 53:43really had. We didn't have him on the show
- 53:44because yeah, absolutely. Man.
- 53:47And it literally was was 11/30 the night before he sent me a
- 53:50message. Hey guys I wanted to follow up.
- 53:51My wife appears to have had a stroke.
- 53:53Her entire left side is paralyzed as of right now and
- 53:55she's getting admitted to run more tests.
- 53:57So sorry I have to cancel but. I mean, you should be.
- 54:01I mean, jeez, you're lucky that that's on my legitimate list to
- 54:06not be on the show. Right, he's totally kidding.
- 54:11But but I mean, that's just cool.
- 54:13But that just shows you the fact that he took being on her show
- 54:16as, as something that was near or dear to his heart, which is
- 54:19fantastic because again, we had a guy that's supposed to come on
- 54:22today and I don't know what happened to him.
- 54:23We had a brief e-mail conversation this morning and
- 54:25and it's just I text him everything I called him.
- 54:28Nothing. Let me assure you, ladies and
- 54:29gentlemen, Chris just said it best.
- 54:31We care about you as people first and foremost.
- 54:34If you blow us off, you're going to get a different reaction,
- 54:37especially from Chris. But I just if.
- 54:41You have a tragic circumstance, like what was his name?
- 54:46Scott. Sean, Sean.
- 54:48Sean Martin. With an S yeah Sean Watson if
- 54:50you have a tragic family emergency that takes precedent
- 54:54over the Kristen Mike show just. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely,
- 54:57absolutely. The only reason I'm kind of just
- 54:59disappointed with the guy today is because.
- 55:02I like legit we had an exchange. I'm disappointed as well.
- 55:06But the one thing that I've noticed about you, even more so
- 55:09than me, is, you know, maybe not even more so than me.
- 55:14You're the one doing the booking.
- 55:16So I know you take this personally and you take it
- 55:18seriously. And if someone says they're
- 55:20going to be here, be here and be on time, I can't disagree with
- 55:23that because that's one of my pet peeves too.
- 55:26I'm 15 minutes early for work every day, right?
- 55:28Yeah, yeah. That's because I had a job
- 55:32washing cars for my grandpa when I was a kid and I was like 10
- 55:35minutes late the first time because it was grandpa, right?
- 55:37Right. And he's like, what time I tell
- 55:39you to be here, boy? 8:00 Like you better come in my
- 55:44office. So he takes me in there and he's
- 55:46like, what time is it again? I said it's 8:10.
- 55:49What time did I tell you to be here?
- 55:51I said 8:00. He's like, this is the first and
- 55:54last time I'm going to tell you this.
- 55:56You can be 10 minutes early, but don't you ever be 10 minutes
- 55:59late again or don't show up. Yep, let's stuck with me from a
- 56:03little kid. Man, I was like son of a bitch.
- 56:04You got to be on time, right? Yeah.
- 56:07I'm so wait. Dude, I hate, I hate people.
- 56:09I know you are. I hate going.
- 56:10I hate going to the doctor. Like I'll ask the doctor
- 56:12whenever. Go to the doctor now when I
- 56:14check in, is he on time? And if you tell me it's on time,
- 56:18well damn it, I better be back in that room on a time schedule
- 56:21or within a 10 minute window. And if I'm not, if I'm still in
- 56:24the waiting room 15 minutes after I go back to the counter?
- 56:26I thought you said it was on time.
- 56:27He is. No, he's not.
- 56:29Well, you were always the guy in the band, too.
- 56:31When Scott and I were like, we're just going to get a little
- 56:33hired before we play. It's like, come on, man, we got,
- 56:36are we going to jam or are we going to sit around and talk?
- 56:39You know, you were, you were always that guy too, man.
- 56:42Yeah, let's go. Yeah.
- 56:45The time like the president. So this is a cool little story
- 56:47so and I tried to film it but it was gone the next day.
- 56:49So driving we live in in the East Valley in in Arizona.
- 56:54So driving down Power Rd. which is North-south Rd.
- 56:58Left our neighborhood about a mile out.
- 56:59There's a median between between directions.
- 57:02OK. And in that it's probably a six
- 57:06foot median. And then there's trees down the
- 57:08dead center of it with flowers and stuffed ground cover, right.
- 57:11So I'm driving. This was this is Tuesday.
- 57:14So had there been Sunday when they can air on our way to the
- 57:15gym. So we're driving and I see this
- 57:19white sign you need to put in the ground like, hey, garage
- 57:23sale one of those things you know I'm talking about.
- 57:24Yeah, it's it said what did it it it again.
- 57:32I wanted I hoped it was still there and it wasn't, but it was
- 57:34something to the effect kind of like how we wrap up our show.
- 57:36It's like like tomorrow's going to be a better day.
- 57:38So it was a white sign with black words and it said
- 57:40something like don't do it right.
- 57:43And then when we came back from the gym the other side, it says
- 57:46you're going to feel better and and it's gone, which is a drag.
- 57:51I like that. I do too.
- 57:53And that's why we wrap the show up every time we do it is is if
- 57:57you're, if you're feeling, if you're feeling sad, if you're
- 57:59feeling depressed, if you're feeling suicidal, if you're at
- 58:03your wit's end and you just don't know what to do, where to
- 58:05turn, Just find somebody to talk to.
- 58:08Well, that shit hits me hard, man, because I think about where
- 58:11I'm sitting right now and I think about where I was in my
- 58:15life. And there was a time, I remember
- 58:17a one week period where I was just done.
- 58:19I gave up, you know, I'm like, I'm just going to do enough
- 58:22drugs and till I die, right? And then I failed at that and I
- 58:25was a failure at that. And that's a whole nother story,
- 58:27but right, I think about not being here and what that would
- 58:31have done to all the people that I interact with on a daily basis
- 58:34now, you know, first and foremost, my mother and father,
- 58:37right? And my family.
- 58:39Right. That's that's a no brainer.
- 58:41Your family's going to be devastated.
- 58:43But, you know, we wouldn't have had this podcast.
- 58:46Who knows who we're touching? You know, we end up in 22
- 58:49countries. So somebody likes what we're
- 58:51talking about. And hopefully, just like you
- 58:54said at the end there, that little bit of hope, yeah, that
- 59:00we're providing at the end of every show makes people at least
- 59:03think, you know? Yeah.
- 59:06Because after that point in my life, I thought about, you know,
- 59:09I never thought about going that far again because after I failed
- 59:13at it and came around to thinking clearly again, it's
- 59:16like just like you say all the time, you know, tomorrow's going
- 59:21to be a better day. You're having a bad day.
- 59:24That's all you got to tell yourself.
- 59:26And sometimes you have a lot of bad days in a row.
- 59:29I'm not going to lie to you, you got to get through all of them.
- 59:33There's a way to get through all of them.
- 59:35Music has been my savior my whole life.
- 59:38So the the reason I'm still sitting here talking to you is
- 59:43there was enough music in me that no matter how dark things
- 59:49got on the inside, that light was always brighter than the
- 59:52darkness, right? I could always pick up my guitar
- 59:55and play something that made me happy.
- 59:57And I know I talked about this a lot, but I actually have been
- 1:00:01working on music and there's a song I wrote in the middle of
- 1:00:04all that that's just an instrumental for now.
- 1:00:07Who knows? Chris may bastardize it.
- 1:00:09He's good at that. I I think a song is going to be
- 1:00:13one thing and then I give it to him and it becomes a totally
- 1:00:16different thing. It's not better, it's not bad,
- 1:00:18it's just different, right? But this piece of music
- 1:00:22literally saved my life and I just played it over and over and
- 1:00:25over again because it made me happy.
- 1:00:27And one night, there was a guy listening to me play it that was
- 1:00:30a rough, tough dude. And you never would have thought
- 1:00:33these words would have come out of his mouth.
- 1:00:34But he was like, keep playing stuff like that because the
- 1:00:37world needs more of it. And what compelled, what
- 1:00:40compelled him to say that is beyond me because I never would
- 1:00:43have expected those words out of this guy's mouth.
- 1:00:47Yeah, he's actually the guy that I tell the story about that got
- 1:00:49executed that night. Gotcha.
- 1:00:54But yeah, he was like, keep playing stuff like that because
- 1:00:57the world needs more of it. Yeah.
- 1:01:00And all I knew is it made me happy when I played it.
- 1:01:02So eventually I'm going to release that to the world.
- 1:01:05Good. And here's a little just a
- 1:01:08reminder that I can share with the world as I hit my 7500 and
- 1:01:1267th day of sobriety. This moment right here.
- 1:01:15Thank you. These moments like stuff,
- 1:01:17moments like this never would have happened if I didn't stop
- 1:01:19drinking. So there.
- 1:01:21Is and her life would have been completely different.
- 1:01:24Absolutely, as would my kids. I never I, I, I wouldn't be in
- 1:01:28little man's life the way I am today.
- 1:01:31You know, I wouldn't be in either my kids life the way I'm
- 1:01:33in the day. I doubt because when you're
- 1:01:35going down the the the dregs of addiction and stuff, you don't
- 1:01:39care about anybody but. Yourself.
- 1:01:41And when when you do that, then they're all annoying there.
- 1:01:45It's a nuisance. Like get away from me.
- 1:01:47You're bothering me. I don't, I don't need your shit
- 1:01:49because I'm trying to focus on on chasing my, my high.
- 1:01:54So, you know, just don't do it, man.
- 1:01:57Just just go run, go workout, go scream in a pillow, go journal,
- 1:02:03go find somebody to talk to you call us.
- 1:02:05You know our numbers on our Facebook page.
- 1:02:06Call it. I answer that phone.
- 1:02:08So don't be don't be the one that leaves the hole in
- 1:02:10somebody's heart for tomorrow. It's just it's not worth it.
- 1:02:16It's just not. We wouldn't be here if Mike
- 1:02:18would have been successful. So.
- 1:02:20How? How shitty would this world be
- 1:02:22without the Chris and Mike show? It'd be pretty shitty dude.
- 1:02:26Right. That being said, love you
- 1:02:30brother. Love you too man, it's a
- 1:02:32pleasure. Doing that.
- 1:02:33Have a great. Have a great Tuesday.
- 1:02:34Go eat a burrito, man, will you? I would if I could.
- 1:02:37I'm on like, tuna salads. That's, yeah, tuna salad
- 1:02:42sandwiches. Who would have thought?
- 1:02:45Burrito actually sounds delicious, but I don't have that
- 1:02:47appetite. OK.
- 1:02:49That's who's coming on the show Friday.
- 1:02:50I think we got back-to-back people on Friday.
- 1:02:52We got we got some musicians coming on.
- 1:02:54So sweet. That'll be cool.
- 1:02:56That'll be cool. If you're out there and you love
- 1:02:58music and you want to come on here and talk music, please do
- 1:03:01it. That's our first.
- 1:03:02Our first passion is music, and then it goes from there.
- 1:03:05But if you're a musician and you got something coming out and you
- 1:03:09want to promote it, come on here and talk about it.
- 1:03:11I love talking music, guitars, amps, songs, whatever.
- 1:03:15Absolutely. We're all about promoting you.
- 1:03:16We don't you don't come on the show to serve our purpose.
- 1:03:19You come on the show so we can help you get your message out
- 1:03:22there, your book out there, your music out there, whatever it is
- 1:03:24you do from coaching to to lifestyle, to health and
- 1:03:27Wellness to, you know, I mean, we've had such a paradox of
- 1:03:32different people on this show. And I've been asked why we do
- 1:03:34that. And I'm going to answer that
- 1:03:35simply. And it seems it seems one of
- 1:03:39those, duh, after I say it. But if we didn't want to go that
- 1:03:43direction, and I'm glad that organically fell that way, Yeah.
- 1:03:46But we could just sit here and do this twice a week, too.
- 1:03:49We don't have to let somebody on here, right?
- 1:03:51So why would we not give you the platform?
- 1:03:53Yeah, when you and I have the ability to do this whenever we
- 1:03:56want. So exactly.
- 1:03:58Exactly. Yeah.
- 1:03:59We didn't miss a beat. Gary didn't show up.
- 1:04:01We didn't miss a beat. We didn't rehearse this.
- 1:04:03We just. That's who we are.
- 1:04:04We can have, we can have converse.
- 1:04:05We could keep talking for three hours, but I didn't have to go
- 1:04:07here and get my yard. We've been doing this for 30
- 1:04:09years, people. Yeah.
- 1:04:10Yeah. I love talking to this guy
- 1:04:12because he doesn't get all emotional and hostile when I say
- 1:04:15things and that, you know what, I'll leave people with that.
- 1:04:19I don't leave people with a message very often.
- 1:04:21Yeah, when you're having a conversation with somebody, one
- 1:04:25of my pet peeves is when people get angry, right?
- 1:04:30Just because of your opinion. I don't get angry when you tell
- 1:04:34me your opinion. I just say, OK, I disagree with
- 1:04:37that, but it doesn't make me hostile, right?
- 1:04:40No, As soon as you get hostile in a conversation, I'm done.
- 1:04:43Because that's just sell it, right?
- 1:04:45What are we going to fight over? A fucking conversation?
- 1:04:48Right. So when I tell people, you know,
- 1:04:52hundreds of times on the show, you're the first and only person
- 1:04:56I thought of, of doing the show with, That was the first and
- 1:05:00foremost reason, other than the fact that you played in a band
- 1:05:02with me. Yeah.
- 1:05:03Was I knew that I could touch any subject.
- 1:05:05And we have, and we've agreed to disagree on a lot of stuff
- 1:05:11professionally as friends. Yep.
- 1:05:14You can do it, people. Yeah.
- 1:05:16Just talk. Listen to the other person.
- 1:05:18You might learn something. Yep.
- 1:05:20I've learned so much in life just listening.
- 1:05:23Oh yeah dude, I've learned so much in life just from this
- 1:05:25show. Like almost every episode I
- 1:05:27learned something new. It's insane.
- 1:05:29Me too. Even if even if it's just us.
- 1:05:32Like I didn't know. I didn't know David Gilmore was
- 1:05:33doing the 5th and then a full step in the solo I just had
- 1:05:36today. I actually just learned that
- 1:05:38myself because I wish I could give the guy credit.
- 1:05:40He has an incredible Facebook page, and he laid out that whole
- 1:05:44solo note for note for note. Wow.
- 1:05:46So as he played it, he showed it on the screen what David's doing
- 1:05:50on the staff. Super impressive.
- 1:05:53I wish. Like I could give the guy props,
- 1:05:55but that's all I learned about it.
- 1:05:56Well, find the guy. Let's get him on the show.
- 1:05:59All right, I will. There you go, all right, till
- 1:06:02next time boys and girls love you.
- 1:06:03Be safe out. There, love you too man.
- 1:06:05Thanks for tuning in. Peace.
- 1:06:06Peace. The place where you will go
- 1:06:35behind your eyes. Take a moment.
- 1:06:52Who is this baby? You ain't no creature we're
- 1:08:33playing smile and you should you press on the almighty day.
- 1:08:39You gotta dream true in your life to keep our soul in every
- 1:08:47day. Take the trail behind your eyes.
- 1:08:52Feel the Soul Revolution now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:09:03yeah. Take a moment.
- 1:09:05We can see you see him fight the bail and see more clear.
- 1:09:37You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.