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What Makes Julian Sayin Such An Elite Quarterback? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Tuesday, November fourth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: All right, today, you're getting the show I thought you
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  Speaker 1: were going to get yesterday, but then there was some
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  Speaker 1: breaking news involving a couple of commitments on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: When I get up to speed on that, you can
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  Speaker 1: listen to the show that Tony Gerderman and I did
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  Speaker 1: yesterday on the Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning Podcast Speed Today, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to get to hear a little bit from Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Day in the wake of buckeyes thirty eight to fourteen
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  Speaker 1: win over Penn State over the weekend. You know, outside
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  Speaker 1: of the last couple minutes of the first half, that
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  Speaker 1: was about as dominant as you're going to see a
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  Speaker 1: performance for one team against another. That is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: certainly at least a top fifteen team talent wise in
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  Speaker 1: the nation. So let's get Ryan Day's overall thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the performance.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a great example for everybody that
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  Speaker 2: when you turn the ball over, especially down there, you
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  Speaker 2: put yourself at a risk. I mean, all the work
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  Speaker 2: that gets put in, you know, can be all or
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  Speaker 2: not if we don't take care of the football. So
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  Speaker 2: it's a lesson learned. We came in at halftime, we
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  Speaker 2: were up by three. You would have thought were down
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  Speaker 2: by twenty one. But I thought we responded well. And
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  Speaker 2: that's that's the thing is when you come out in
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  Speaker 2: the second half, you have to learn from the first half,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't dwell on it. And so we knew
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  Speaker 2: how important that first drive was. You know, we were aggressive,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I thought some of Julian's deep balls
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  Speaker 2: were just excellent in this game. And you know, saw
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  Speaker 2: how they were playing us in the first half, felt
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  Speaker 2: like we had a chance to get behind them, and
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  Speaker 2: and you know, so we we called those plays and
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  Speaker 2: and and Julian and the receivers did a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Carnell and then and then it was good to
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  Speaker 2: see obviously us finish the game with some runs. Got physical,
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  Speaker 2: so that that was good as well. But the defense
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  Speaker 2: was excellent, really stepped up. I know there was a
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  Speaker 2: couple of third downs early on that were frustrating, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought Matt you know, changed it up a little
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  Speaker 2: bit and then the guys played, you know, really physical,
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  Speaker 2: got to the quarterback, changed up the looks in the
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  Speaker 2: back end. So very good team win.
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  Speaker 1: There were certainly some questions about the performance of the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line at times, especially the interior of the offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: Was Ryan da happy what he saw there?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I'll have to watch it all, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: that is the good thing we get to watch the iPad.
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  Speaker 2: I thought there was some plays that you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you're playing against you know, a team like Penn State
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  Speaker 2: who has a lot of talent, you're gonna have some
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  Speaker 2: some plays that aren't perfect. But I thought the strain
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  Speaker 2: and pretend when you when you're pushing the ball down
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  Speaker 2: the field like we are. The first big play to Carnell,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the one of Jeremiah, the other one to Carnell.
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  Speaker 2: I mean those are those are you know, probably three
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  Speaker 2: and a half second plus plays. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: strain on those plays. So I thought that was well done.
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  Speaker 2: It was good to see us finish late in the game.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we we really fit some runs up late
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  Speaker 2: and we're late. That was good. You know, sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: run game takes a little time. So was it perfect? No,
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  Speaker 2: But I thought the guys played hard and there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good play in there.
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  Speaker 1: You saw a bunch of new stuff from the offense,
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  Speaker 1: especially right out of the box early in the game.
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  Speaker 1: So is that a function of just coming off and
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  Speaker 1: off week and having some more time to work some
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  Speaker 1: new stuff in there? Is that a factor of going
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  Speaker 1: against the coordinator like Jim Knowles, who obviously knows the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State offense pretty well? What what was the why
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  Speaker 1: behind all that new stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we wanted to change up the looks and the
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  Speaker 2: personnel groupings and and just try not to be not
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  Speaker 2: not predictable. I think you know that that's probably something
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  Speaker 2: that you know for us, we try not to be predictable,
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  Speaker 2: but that really that's not really the right word to use.
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  Speaker 2: You We just wanted to change up the groupings and
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  Speaker 2: just make make the defense a little bit uncomfortable and
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  Speaker 2: not being able to anticipate maybe what they were getting,
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  Speaker 2: if that's the best way to put it. But we
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  Speaker 2: certainly weren't going to re engine our offense based on
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  Speaker 2: the team that we were going against. So I felt
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  Speaker 2: like we did that. We found ourselves in some different
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  Speaker 2: formations and then we shifted and moved it around so
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  Speaker 2: that they couldn't, you know, really nail us down. And
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  Speaker 2: then we identified what the game plan was, and I
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  Speaker 2: thought we really attacked him in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Julian Sayan has taken over as the new Heisman front
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  Speaker 1: runner for this season. Complete eighty seven percent of your
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  Speaker 1: passes for more than three hundred yards and four touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: and no picks, Well, that's going to help boost your
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  Speaker 1: candidacy quite a bit. And that's something that you really
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  Speaker 1: You didn't see a ton of Ohio State quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 1: that Heisman conversation before Ryan Day showed up. Then since
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  Speaker 1: he got here, pretty much all off Ohio State starting
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks have shown up somewhere in that Heisman conversation. No
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  Speaker 1: one's won yet since Brian Day's been here, every guys
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  Speaker 1: have gotten closed. Julian Sayan now certainly in that conversation
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  Speaker 1: as well. Does Ryan Day take pride in the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Ohio State has really turned sort of turned into
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  Speaker 1: quarterback you because they really haven't been for most of
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  Speaker 1: their history. And then you'll hear that he answer to that,
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  Speaker 1: And there's a follow up question that it's real brief,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know if you can hear it real well.
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  Speaker 1: It's from Rob aller If the Columbus Dispatch. He's just
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  Speaker 1: asked a very simple question. Is Julian saying the best
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in America? So here are those two answers.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it comes down to everybody involved. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it starts with hard as the coordinator. Then it goes
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  Speaker 2: down to Billy as the position coach and and everybody
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  Speaker 2: involved with it, and then it goes to Julian and
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  Speaker 2: the guys who play the position. And Julian's you know,
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  Speaker 2: really getting more and more confidence every day he works
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  Speaker 2: at it. I think the preparation that he puts in
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  Speaker 2: in that quarterback room is shutting the show. His mind
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  Speaker 2: works as quick as the ball comes out. He's obviously accurate.
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  Speaker 2: So I think one of the biggest plays of the
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  Speaker 2: game was the scramble he had. You know, would love
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  Speaker 2: to see him have two hands on the ball there,
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  Speaker 2: but but that was a big scramble in that spot.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he didn't know where the game was going.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's what happens in those games. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you fumble the ball in you know, the first half,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a three point game at halftime, you know
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  Speaker 2: you don't get that first down, who knows the game goes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, these are the turning points in the game
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  Speaker 2: that you know from you know, following these games. And
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  Speaker 2: I know as years go on, you watch these games,
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  Speaker 2: you see those moments where the game could turn. And
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  Speaker 2: so I thought that was a big play. So he's
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  Speaker 2: growing in the past in the run game as well,
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  Speaker 2: I think. But to answer your question, yeah, I believe
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  Speaker 2: that when you come as a position coach, it should
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  Speaker 2: be that position you So I think and I felt
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  Speaker 2: like that when I first got here. And it's great
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  Speaker 2: to see, you know, the quarterbacks continue to believe what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing. You know, I don't know, I shouldn't say
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what else is out there. I've watched
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  Speaker 2: them from AFAR. I think there's some really good quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: across the country this year. There's a lot of good
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the conference. And so you know, it'll be
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  Speaker 2: told when the season's over, you know, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: easy to you know, be it whenever week week eight,
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  Speaker 2: week nine, week ten and try to make you know,
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  Speaker 2: proclamations on where guys are. I think we have to see,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what the season you know, holds for us
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  Speaker 2: and the progress that's made, and then we go from there.
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  Speaker 2: And I think even when you look at, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy, you know, it's sort of after the
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  Speaker 2: season's over and there's still a whole bunch of football
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  Speaker 2: to be played afterwards. So I think that's unique, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the tradition. But I do think that if Julian
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  Speaker 2: continues to play the way that he's playing, he deserves
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  Speaker 2: to be in the conversation at the very least.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about Julian, saying, the accuracy
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  Speaker 1: and the deep balls and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: we get it. But his demeanor too. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: saw the tweet. I'm sure that he looks like he's
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  Speaker 1: listening to Maroon five boys out there because he's just
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  Speaker 1: so calm and mellow at all times. Unflappable was what
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  Speaker 1: they question the question asker during the press conference. That
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  Speaker 1: was the word they use, is unflappable demeanor. So how
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  Speaker 1: much does that help him do what he does well.
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  Speaker 2: That's that, you know, that's something that's very hard to teach.
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  Speaker 2: When you can feel the rush and not have your
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  Speaker 2: eyes on it. Your eyes can be down the field.
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  Speaker 2: You can anticipate what's happening and the ball comes out.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't like to tell you that we coach that,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't. H He has that feel and that's
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  Speaker 2: something that you know makes quarterback special. He has that trait.
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  Speaker 1: You heard earlier Ryan Day say that it felt like
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  Speaker 1: they were down twenty one at halftime. They were obviously
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  Speaker 1: up by three points at that point, so why did
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  Speaker 1: he feel like they were down twenty one at half?
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  Speaker 2: I just think that we felt like, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: were playing well, uh in certain areas, but it just
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  Speaker 2: you know, they had they got a couple first downs
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  Speaker 2: on us, we fumbled and they scored. They scored, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was just it was a little frustrating,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, you know, we want to be in
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  Speaker 2: at halftime, you know, at that in that moment, we
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be at least winning by by ten and
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  Speaker 2: then to turn around and we only need to be
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  Speaker 2: up three. It was like, you got to be kidding me,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, at that point, you know, we felt
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  Speaker 2: like we were getting the ball to start the second half,
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  Speaker 2: we were going to be somewhat aggressive, but not reckless.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted to end with the ball or points, and for us,
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  Speaker 2: the funnel in the first play was very frustrating. So
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  Speaker 2: that that's really what led to that.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, you know, Ryan Day talked last week about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: trying to keep things professional and you know, not get
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  Speaker 1: not let a motion get involved when you're playing someone
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  Speaker 1: like Jim Knowles, who was with the Buckeyes last year
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  Speaker 1: and then chose to leave for Penn State. So did
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  Speaker 1: he get the sense that maybe the players took things
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  Speaker 1: a little personally with Knowles on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, no, I didn't feel any of that. Maybe I
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  Speaker 2: guess when the season started and when I was looking ahead,
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  Speaker 2: I thought maybe that would come into play, but it
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  Speaker 2: just didn't. I don't think any of our coaches or
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  Speaker 2: players were distracted by that.
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  Speaker 1: It would not have been hard for Ohio State to
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  Speaker 1: maybe overlook that Penn State game on Saturday. They very
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  Speaker 1: clearly didn't do that, but it was a team that
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  Speaker 1: was coming in on a four game losing streak. They
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  Speaker 1: fired the coach they'd lost their starting quarterback, it was
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  Speaker 1: favored by three touchdowns, and the Buckeyes just came out
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  Speaker 1: and outside of that one little blip right before half time,
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  Speaker 1: really just handled their business for the full game. So
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  Speaker 1: what does it mean for a team to just not
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  Speaker 1: take a game lightly like that? They really haven't overlooked
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  Speaker 1: an opponent because of the record yet this season, So
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  Speaker 1: I would assume is that is that a good sign
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  Speaker 1: for this team.
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  Speaker 2: We constantly talk about being consistent weekend and week out,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter who the opponent is. And I thought this
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  Speaker 2: was a good example of, you know, really not testing
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  Speaker 2: the theory out, but seeing, you know, where our team
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  Speaker 2: was in this area. Because you know, if you have
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  Speaker 2: a young team where you know you play to your opponent,
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  Speaker 2: you obviously put yourself at risk. And so how do
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  Speaker 2: you perceive a team that's you know, lost a few
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  Speaker 2: games in a row, you know, and going through some
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  Speaker 2: difficult times. Well, these guys still have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: NFL players on the team, and we knew it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be a challenge. So again it just went
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  Speaker 2: back to us and our preparation and how hard we play,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, for us, it was just the next
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  Speaker 2: team on the list that we have to execute against.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a tribute to the coaches, and it could be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a tribute to the players for continuing to
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  Speaker 2: believe in that and keep pushing. And I still think
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  Speaker 2: we all know that we can get better in certain areas.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to keep pushing, and so we have to
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  Speaker 2: master the routine and that's getting rest tonight, come back tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: address the issues, and then it's on to Purdue.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, the first half of the second half was
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  Speaker 1: really night and day, at least on the scoreboard. It
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  Speaker 1: went from seventeen to fourteen in the first half, do
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  Speaker 1: twenty one nothing Ohio State in the second half. So,
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  Speaker 1: all right, what changed at halftime? What was the message
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  Speaker 1: to the team at the break? And you know you'll
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  Speaker 1: hear Ryan Day start answering that question, and then this
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  Speaker 1: turns into a whole lot of other stuff that he
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  Speaker 1: clearly wanted to talk about and didn't get asked about.
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  Speaker 1: So we just kind of went, well, this is the
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  Speaker 1: last question, so I'm just going to talk about all
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  Speaker 1: of it here. So this is sort of a long
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  Speaker 1: and meandering answer, but a lot of good stuff in here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I said kind of what I tell you guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, either winning, losing, or you're tired at halftime,
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  Speaker 2: and we have to identify when it went on in
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  Speaker 2: this in the first half. And you'll say it all
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  Speaker 2: the time. All the work that gets put in if
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  Speaker 2: we turn the ball over, your whole seat and can
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  Speaker 2: be ruined. So I don't want to just dwell on
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  Speaker 2: that one turnover. I feel like I'm talking about it
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  Speaker 2: a lot, but we just you know, one thirty eight
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  Speaker 2: to fourteen against Penn State. So if you said that
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  Speaker 2: to me about two months ago, I don't think I'd
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  Speaker 2: be talking about one fumble that we had, but I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather be talking about And by the way, when I
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  Speaker 2: said that about about Julian saying, you know, I also
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  Speaker 2: feel like Carnell and Jeremiah, you know again, if there's
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  Speaker 2: two better wide receivers in the country, I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: see them, you know, And they deserve to be up
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of awards too, as we're getting towards
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  Speaker 2: the end of the season. Because it's not about individual
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  Speaker 2: recognition around here, but I know a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: you know, support their players. I want to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that I'm supporting my guys because you know they're they're
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  Speaker 2: great players. And then we also have a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: guys on defense doing the same thing. So but this
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  Speaker 2: is not about individuals. It's about the team and that's
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  Speaker 2: something that's been a mantra to our team all season long.
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  Speaker 2: And so the message you have time, okay, was that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if we take care of the football, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna win a game. If we turn the ball over
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  Speaker 2: some more, we're going to be in this game in
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  Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. So that was the first thing. The
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  Speaker 2: second thing was that, you know, we need to have
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  Speaker 2: a great drive to come out in the third quarter
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  Speaker 2: and that great teams win in the second half. And
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  Speaker 2: that was really it. And I do want to say,
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  Speaker 2: before we're done again, how great the crowd was. I
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  Speaker 2: thought the crowd was in the stadium early. They were
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  Speaker 2: rocking early. They just you know, this season, I think
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  Speaker 2: Ross has done a great job with the game day atmosphere,
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  Speaker 2: and I just I feel like everybody understands when they
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  Speaker 2: have the ball how to be loud, and just they're
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  Speaker 2: playing off the players, and when the players need the crowd,
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  Speaker 2: the crowd's there. It just it gives our guys energy
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  Speaker 2: and I could feel in the second half, and so
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  Speaker 2: I just want to thank the crowd because at the
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  Speaker 2: skull session we say, you know, the band's got to
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  Speaker 2: do their job, the fans got to do their job,
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  Speaker 2: and we got to do our job, and I thought
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  Speaker 2: that everybody did today for a great win.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we will be talking to Brian Day
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  Speaker 1: again Tuesday at noon at the Woody Hayes Athletics Center, Gurban,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be there for that covering. We'll be broadcasting
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  Speaker 1: that live on YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle per usual,
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  Speaker 1: so you can find that there and then we'll probably
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  Speaker 1: try and have some kind of an instant reaction something
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  Speaker 1: rather on that for you as well. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: the rewatch show looking back at that Ohio State Penn
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  Speaker 1: State game, talking about the stuff we learned. You can
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  Speaker 1: find that on our YouTube channel as well as on
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  Speaker 1: the bucke Huddle podcast feed, and then we'll have more
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  Speaker 1: coming up this week on the Buckeyes Tomorrow morning feed
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  Speaker 1: as well. You get to hear a little bit from
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  Speaker 1: Penn State from Produce use me head coach Barry Odom
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of Ross Fulton shows coming up for you,
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  Speaker 1: breaking down some of the schematic, dues and don'ts from
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  Speaker 1: Saturday's game against Penn State. And then of course you
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  Speaker 1: is all at bucke huddle dot com. That'll do it
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  Speaker 1: for today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have
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  Speaker 1: a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.