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Bonus Episode: What Music Do Serial Killers and the Worst People In The World Listen to? · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party.
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  Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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  Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full
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  Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig
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  Speaker 1: into the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to
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  Speaker 1: confront the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode,
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  Speaker 1: we're discussing what the worst people in the world listen to,
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  Speaker 1: from serial killers to war criminals to Jeffrey Epstein and
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  Speaker 1: all the way back again. And somehow this is all
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  Speaker 1: the subject of this week's episode, Towns van Zant's Fault.
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  Speaker 1: We're previewing next week's episode on The Pretender's Chrissy Hin. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: we get into your emails, comments, dms, and as always,
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot of Rosie. This is the podcast for
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  Speaker 1: the musically obsessed, the outsiders, the independent thinkers who know
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  Speaker 1: that the best history is the history that gets buried.
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  Speaker 1: Disgraceland is where I tell the stories they didn't want told,
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  Speaker 1: the kind you'll end up telling someone else. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: disc goes, Let's get into it. Towns van Zant is
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  Speaker 1: the subject of this week's Disgraceland full episode, and we
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  Speaker 1: just released that episode right before the bonus here, And
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  Speaker 1: as you'll hear, one of the most interesting aspects of
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  Speaker 1: Towns van Zant's life and career, it's the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he modeled his life and career after Hank Willialliams. And
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  Speaker 1: there are all these eerie coincidences, including the day that
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  Speaker 1: he died and how he died, So that could be
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  Speaker 1: thinking about eerie coincidences between musicians throughout music history, and
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  Speaker 1: there are some pretty good ones. John Lennon and dine
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  Speaker 1: Bag Daryll from Pantera were both shot and killed by
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  Speaker 1: deranged fans on the same day. Years apart, of course,
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain and Alison chains Is Lane Staley both died
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  Speaker 1: on the same day as well. Also years apart, Lincoln
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  Speaker 1: Park had a drummer named Kennedy the Dead Kennedy's had
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  Speaker 1: a drummer named Lincoln. Ryan Adams and Brian Adams share
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  Speaker 1: the same birthdays. That sort of stuff, and also a
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  Speaker 1: ton more about nine to eleven than I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: say for another time. But anyways, this thinking led me
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  Speaker 1: into a different, to me more interesting research wormhole, and
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  Speaker 1: that's into the subject of the music that certain serial
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  Speaker 1: killers were fans of, and in some cases the music
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  Speaker 1: that they listened to while they were doing the nasty
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  Speaker 1: shit that they were up to. Now Ozzy Osbourne RIP
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  Speaker 1: Ozzy recently passed away. Ozzie was a Christian. Ozzie was
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  Speaker 1: an overall good guy, I believe, so he would hate
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  Speaker 1: this factoid that I'm going to lay on you, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention it anyway. Jeffrey Dahmer loved Black Sabbath.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently he would listen to Sabbath while dismembering bodies. Songs
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  Speaker 1: iron Man and Paranoid were two of his favorites, which
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  Speaker 1: means the Milwaukee Cannibal had pretty basic taste when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Black Sabbath. It's a matter Jeffrey, you never
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  Speaker 1: heard yourself from Junior's eyes. Check that out, all right. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: Beyond Jeffrey Dahmer, I didn't know that about Jeffrey Dahmer
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  Speaker 1: until this morning, but we all know about the Knight
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  Speaker 1: stalker Richard Ramirez's obsession with acdcne about Charles Manson's supposed
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  Speaker 1: obsession with the Beatles. What I didn't know about was
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  Speaker 1: Aileen Wrenos's love for ten thousand Maniacs in the song Carnival,
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  Speaker 1: which she apparently requested to be played at her wake. This,
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, is beyond creepy to me. I think
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  Speaker 1: I know the reason because it's it's counterpoint. I never
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  Speaker 1: thought of this before, But I guess what I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: is that if you told me the Natalie Merchant had
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  Speaker 1: some deep, dark secrets, I guess I wouldn't be surprised. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we're all big New York City nineteen seventy seven scholars
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  Speaker 1: here in Disgrace Saints. So if you're like me, then
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  Speaker 1: I assume you connect the son of Sam David Berkowitz
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  Speaker 1: to the Talking Heads because of their tune cycle Killer.
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  Speaker 1: But that song was actually released on Talking Heads seventy seven.
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  Speaker 1: They're excellent record that was released cycle Killer on that
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  Speaker 1: record about a month after Berkowitz was arrested. So this
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  Speaker 1: serial killer wasn't listening to any keskersse. This cycle Killer,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, wasn't listening to any Keuskersse, but he
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  Speaker 1: was listening to halland Oates say it ain't so Sammy.
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  Speaker 1: I find this to be super creepy as well, because
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  Speaker 1: Hello Oates pre nineteen seventy eight output is dope, by
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  Speaker 1: which I mean it's pretty sophisticated stuff, which means that
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  Speaker 1: the son of Sam psychle killer that he was had
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  Speaker 1: pretty great taste. This is pre man Eater hallo Oates,
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  Speaker 1: This is rich Girl Hallooaates, This is Sarah Smile hall
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  Speaker 1: of Oates. Honestly, I'm a little shocked by this one
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  Speaker 1: because I kind of think of David Bergerwitz as like
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  Speaker 1: a a drooling idiot who is afraid of barking dogs.
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  Speaker 1: But whatever, whatever good musical taste. I guess John Wayne Gacy,
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  Speaker 1: the so called killer Clown, listened to Ario Speedwagon. I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Feels like maybe investigators just found a
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  Speaker 1: random a track in his basement and this is how
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  Speaker 1: the myth got started. But I couldn't find much on
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  Speaker 1: Gaysey's music taste, and honestly, I just pictureed John Wayne
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  Speaker 1: Gacy running around his house and his clown get up
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  Speaker 1: soundtrack to the Benny Hill Show theme music. Another weird one,
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  Speaker 1: is Arthur Shawcross? Okay, is not how you say the
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  Speaker 1: serial killer's name. Arthur Shawcross, a sick, sick individual who
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  Speaker 1: murdered two children and eleven adults. Shawcross. If you look
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  Speaker 1: at this guy, if you look at a picture of him,
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  Speaker 1: he's older, gray hair, kind of portly, looks like a
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  Speaker 1: dude you wouldn't want to pitch two in your softball
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  Speaker 1: beer league. Kind of normy, kind of normal, but kind
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  Speaker 1: of wrong at the same time. Anyway, this dude was
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  Speaker 1: a gig Allen fan. Haw How you look at this
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  Speaker 1: guy's at photo?
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  Speaker 2: How?
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  Speaker 1: How how did you get into gg Allen? That's what
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  Speaker 1: I want to know now. According to my admittedly very
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  Speaker 1: limited research on this, Ted Bundy did not listen to music.
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  Speaker 1: He only listened to AM talk radio, which kind of
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  Speaker 1: makes all the sense in the world if you think
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  Speaker 1: about it. Now. He's not a serial killer or a
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  Speaker 1: killer as far as we know, but it's been in
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  Speaker 1: the news lately, so I have to hit upon what
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein was listening to while he was up to
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  Speaker 1: his particular brand of no good, which, depending on who
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  Speaker 1: you ask these days, means everything from sexually abusing minors
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  Speaker 1: to plotting global pandemics to satanic ritual cannibalism aka pizza
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  Speaker 1: and grape soda. Anyway, apparently Jeffrey Epstein had some pretty
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  Speaker 1: on brand taste. Rolling Stone Magazine dug into his Spotify
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  Speaker 1: Rapped from twenty sixteen. They dug that out of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files, and I'm Coming Out by Diana Ross was
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's most listened to song of that year. Do what
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  Speaker 1: you will with that little bit of information. He Ain't Heavy,
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  Speaker 1: He's My Brother by Marion Williams came in second on
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's twenty sixteen rapped. He Ain't Heavy, He's my Brother.
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  Speaker 1: I can just see the Hulu limited you know, scripted
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  Speaker 1: eight part Jeffrey Epstein series right now with you know
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  Speaker 1: it's Epstein in his Manhattan townhouse and he's just sitting
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  Speaker 1: back at the end of the day with a nice
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's Epstein drinking, Yeah, cabernet, nice full
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  Speaker 1: bodied cab and he's got his his feet up on
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  Speaker 1: the table, on the coffee table with his his slippers
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  Speaker 1: and maybe you know, he's in like he's got his
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  Speaker 1: Pendleton blanket over him and he's he's listening to he
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  Speaker 1: Ain't Heavy. He's my brother, and he's he's lamenting the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Bill Gates won't call him back. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that's how I picture it. We'll see. Anyways.
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  Speaker 1: His third most played song was hold On I'm Coming
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  Speaker 1: by Sam and Dave, and I'm not even gonna touch
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  Speaker 1: that one. Anyways, I find this fascinating now that our
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  Speaker 1: wormhole has widened, it's worth mentioning, of course, that Hitler
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  Speaker 1: vibe on Wagner Siria's recently deposed brutal dictator in war
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  Speaker 1: criminal Bosher al Asad, you know, the dude who used
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  Speaker 1: chemical weapons on his own people. Well, when they hacked
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  Speaker 1: into his iTunes account, they found out that mister war
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  Speaker 1: criminal here dug himself a little I'm sexy and I
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  Speaker 1: Know it by lmfao. He was also into right, said
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  Speaker 1: friend's I'm too sexy. Of course, of course he was.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the look at this guy. This shit makes
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  Speaker 1: all the sense in the world when we look at
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  Speaker 1: this guy, and I guess proves that evil transcends from
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  Speaker 1: shitty politics to shitty musical taste as well. Anyways, Kim John,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, he's into some weird shit. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what any of this stuff is, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: as hell I'm not going to try to pronounce any
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  Speaker 1: of it. All right, I'm gonna keep going here, Kadafi,
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  Speaker 1: you want some Goadafi got Affi. It was always it
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  Speaker 1: was Kadaffi when I was growing up, and then it
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  Speaker 1: became got Afi, just like it was always Nevada and
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  Speaker 1: then it became Nevada. I don't know. This stuff just happens. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Libya's dictator, got Afi had some mainstream pop taste. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: dude liked Nelly Fertado, who performed for Good Afi for
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  Speaker 1: Yes War Criminal that he was for a cool million dollars,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't know, seems kind of light to me.
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  Speaker 1: A mill is a mill, but you know how much
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  Speaker 1: is he soul worth? I don't know. I'd have gone
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  Speaker 1: eight figures Nelly, eight figures for Kadafi. Apparently Goaddafi was
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  Speaker 1: also in CCSA CA Afi there. I just can't help it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Anyways, Getafi was also into Mariah fifty cent Beyonce,
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  Speaker 1: And now we're getting into the subject of celebrities and
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  Speaker 1: musicians who sold their souls and opened their bank accounts
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  Speaker 1: to the cash for the cash, I should say, of
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  Speaker 1: some really really bad people, massive amounts of cash, big big,
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  Speaker 1: big fees. If you want to know what I'm talking about,
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  Speaker 1: those musicians who took million dollar fees from brutal dictators
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  Speaker 1: to perform at their I don't know, their parties, their
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  Speaker 1: spoiled spoiled kids, birthday bashes, whatnot. Yeah, Beyonce fifty cent,
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  Speaker 1: but also Kanye Sting, I did this. I did a
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  Speaker 1: little bit on this about a year year ago. I
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  Speaker 1: touched on in the After Party. But today Zeth and
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  Speaker 1: I are going to go in deeper and have the names,
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  Speaker 1: the dollar figures, the dictators, and the details in the
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  Speaker 1: ad free content as well. Finally, since around the subject
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  Speaker 1: of war criminals, George W. Bush's favorite song is My
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  Speaker 1: Sharona by The Knack, And now I can forgive w
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  Speaker 1: for those weapons of mass destruction and all is right
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  Speaker 1: in the world because the Knack in My Sharona just
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  Speaker 1: kind of kicks ass, and honestly, just can you picture
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  Speaker 1: w up in Canny Bunk right now. You know he's
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  Speaker 1: on the backyard, he's roasted some hot dogs and he's
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  Speaker 1: got my Sharona plan. I don't know, kind of cracks
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  Speaker 1: me up. Okay, now we've gone from Towns van Zant
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  Speaker 1: to the neck and uh, I think it's time we
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  Speaker 1: can fully climb out of this this wormhole, this rabbit hole,
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  Speaker 1: and back into reality. All right, this is what we
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  Speaker 1: got cooking this week in Disgraceland. Obviously, the Towns van
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  Speaker 1: Zant episode is there for you to check out. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: We've also got a rewind on Surge Gainsburg coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Friday in the rewind slot. And I should probably
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  Speaker 1: mention that Surge Gainsburg. I found this in my research
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  Speaker 1: this morning as well. Surge is a fave of that
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  Speaker 1: old that old battle axe at old So and so,
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  Speaker 1: that old muckety muck former German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Just again,
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  Speaker 1: picturing these people listening to this music is all the fun.
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  Speaker 1: Angela Merkel and Serge Gainsburg. Ah, just it's what an image?
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  Speaker 1: What an image? Surge. Listen. If you don't know Serge Gainsburg,
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  Speaker 1: you should. He is one of the most interesting and
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  Speaker 1: compelling and influential singers, songwriters, entertainers of the twentieth century.
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  Speaker 1: Without him, you would not have Beck, you would not
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  Speaker 1: have Pulp or Rufus Wainwright. He was a French Sinatra
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  Speaker 1: with half the looks and twice the confidence. If you
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  Speaker 1: can imagine that, all right. You also wouldn't have Whitney
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  Speaker 1: Houston in one of the most insane live television moments
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  Speaker 1: of all time. But you're gonna have to listen to
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  Speaker 1: this Serge Gainsburg to find out what I am talking about,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Next week our brand new episode on Chrissy
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  Speaker 1: Hind from The Pretenders. Now, you might love the Pretenders
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  Speaker 1: or you might just be like, yeah, the Pretenders are cool,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not a super fan and I don't really
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  Speaker 1: care that much about their singer. But it doesn't matter, Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know. If you're anything like me, you don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What I didn't know before getting into this production of
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  Speaker 1: this episode was is just how prevalent Chrissy Hind was
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  Speaker 1: during the formative years of punk rock, and not in America.
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  Speaker 1: She's American in England, and I didn't know this. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know about these massively consequential bands that Chrissy Hind
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  Speaker 1: was there in the beginning, in the formative years of
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  Speaker 1: these bands and was almost in. She was almost in
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  Speaker 1: these bands. It's pretty incredible, pretty revelatory. And on the
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  Speaker 1: true crime front concerning Christy Hein, she survived attacks, violence, predatory,
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  Speaker 1: skis ball music journalist. Of course, it was the nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventies and a whole lot more to become the trailblazing
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  Speaker 1: pop star that she became. So you're not gonna want
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  Speaker 1: to miss this episode. Check it out. It's coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and I can't wait for you to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: And when you're listening to the Chrissy Hind episode, be
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  Speaker 1: thinking about this question, who is the most badass female
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: musician in the history of rock and roll? There are
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  Speaker 1: endless possibilities, but you only get to pick one, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes this question so good. Call me six
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  Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight, leave
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  Speaker 1: your answer, and you might hear your answer on next
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  Speaker 1: week's after Priory Yard. I'm gonna take a quick break,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll be back in the flash.
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  Speaker 3: With your answers to last week's question of the week.
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  Speaker 1: All right, this guys, welcome back into the after party.
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  Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's quit the one way dialogue here and
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  Speaker 1: bring y'all into the conversation. Six one seven, nine oh
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  Speaker 1: six sixty six three eight. The folm lines are always
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  Speaker 1: open here in disgracelaand call me, text me, leave me
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  Speaker 1: a voicemail, just like Scott in the eight oh five.
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  Speaker 4: This is Scott from the eight oh five. I love
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  Speaker 4: the show, always have. I am just shocked that you
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  Speaker 4: have not done an episode on Bobby Fuller yet. I
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  Speaker 4: mean that mysterious death is right for the picking. Would
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  Speaker 4: love to hear your take on it. Keep up the
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  Speaker 4: great work.
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  Speaker 1: Rock a rolla, Scott. You're absolutely right. You are one
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  Speaker 1: hundred correct. I've actually researched this episode fully intending to
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  Speaker 1: write an episode on Bobby Fuller, and there were two
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  Speaker 1: times that this happened, where it was it was scheduled
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  Speaker 1: and then it got pushed one time. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: the first time why we didn't do it. The second time,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to do a live thing in Austin, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and Bobby being a Texas artist, it made sense. And
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  Speaker 1: then that I had to cancel. I had to cancel
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  Speaker 1: that event. Unfortunately it did not happen, but Bobby is
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  Speaker 1: on the schedule and we will get into this. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: it is a mysterious death that is right for the
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  Speaker 1: picking and I cannot wait to share the Bobby Fullish
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  Speaker 1: story with all you guys. It's an insane, insane collision
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  Speaker 1: of music and true crime. Appreciate the push, Scott. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's check out this voicemail from the three three seven
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  Speaker 1: on this week's Question of the Week. We got to
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  Speaker 1: this question because of Towns of vans Aant, because Towns
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  Speaker 1: van Zant lived his life in a very authentic way
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  Speaker 1: and as such, sacrificed a lot and ultimately, I believe
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  Speaker 1: died because of it. And there's a lot of artists
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  Speaker 1: who have done that, who've sacrificed kind of everything for
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  Speaker 1: their art and gave it all up and it's a
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  Speaker 1: damn shame. Anyways, the question was which artists have done
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  Speaker 1: that in the past that you're a fan of, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: All right, check out this voicemail from Cody and where's
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  Speaker 1: Cody calling from the three three seven.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, this is Cody from the three three seven. I
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  Speaker 5: was calling him about your question.
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  Speaker 1: For this week.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, like there's a lot. It's hard,
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  Speaker 2: and I got a dark horse, but a couple of
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  Speaker 2: them on the top of my head. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know we talked about Bob Marley. I mean, not only
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  Speaker 2: did he spend his own money to go to Zimbabwe,
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  Speaker 2: but he also got sick, you know, from sleep on
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  Speaker 2: the floors and everything and Dariance Torentsi bibways. Also he
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  Speaker 2: did perform that concert live on his own dime too,
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  Speaker 2: I think, or it was free or something like that.
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  Speaker 5: But then also he had David Bowie. I think, did
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  Speaker 5: he like get diagnosed with.
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  Speaker 2: Like psychosis or something for like how you know, dedicated
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  Speaker 2: to his craft, but also like how set he came
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  Speaker 2: to his music.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was like when he made Black Start.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it was like the last eighteen months of
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  Speaker 5: his life he spent you know, producing that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I mean knowing that, you know, with his own health
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  Speaker 5: and everything, and come go in and you know, he said,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go out and.
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  Speaker 1: Do what I do, what I love to do.
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  Speaker 5: And also I was gonna also respond to your question
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  Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago about the most influencial you know,
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  Speaker 5: bands outside of the United States and also Great Britain
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  Speaker 5: kind of a modern take. But there's also some somebody
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: that I was gonna say for this week's question too,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: is is that pumped. I mean, nobody really knew who
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: these guys were for just about all their career. You know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: that was the whole point.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Of the Robot helmet.
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he brought a lot of attention.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: To them and everything, but they also had to you know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: sacrifice all the same that they would get, you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: being recognized in the streets, being on top billboards, everything,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: nobody would know what they look like.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I love the podcast. Thank you for everything
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: that you do, and hopefully I'll be able to hear myself.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Thanks for the answer. I appreciate it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Bob Marley, Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I mean he survived. If he died on stage, you
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: could absolutely make the claim. But he survived, and so
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that's a tough one for me. The Bowie one, though,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: is very interesting. You know, there's you can make the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: case that he nearly lost his mind. He nearly lost
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: his mind during those cocaine years, those LA years. They
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: were really tough for him, but he didn't lose his mind,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So the sacrifice and then
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the Black Star thing. That's really interesting because I don't
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: think any of us really know how much I mean,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: he made that album while he was dying. We all
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: know that making an album is a tremendous amount of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: work and exertion, and who knows how that affected him
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and impacted his death. I guess we don't know. Maybe
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: we will at some point. That record's incredible, by the way,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: just amazing, just great stuff. Thank you for reminding me
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of it. Thank you for the message. I want to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: hit on down punk real quick as well. Yeah, I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: guess they they sacrificed their a portion of their fame
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: for a different kind of fame in that they were anonymous, Right,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. And that's a really kind of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: nuanced take, and I dig it and I appreciate it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: All these takes are great. Thank you. Three three seven,
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  Speaker 1: six one seven nine oh six six six three eight.
• 20:21
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• 20:23
  Speaker 1: me a text on question of the week or anything
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: really nine one three text in and the answer to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the question of the week. Billy Holiday, for sure, and yeah, absolutely.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I was reading again about Billy Holiday this week in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: reference to the Patti Smith episode that I'm producing that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: i'm researching, actually writing right now, and I was just
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: reading about the final moments of her life, and it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: it's so awful, it's so bad. It's just you're absolutely right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Nine one three, nine to two zero writes in what's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: some episode suggestions Ministry, New World Order, Queen's Reich Operation,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: mind Crime, compare and contrast to the times they were
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: released compared to today prophetic af interesting. I thought New
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: World Order was pretty of the moment. I gotta say,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I felt like we were in the New World Order
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: when Ministry released that. But I dig the text. Thanks
• 21:20
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• 21:24
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• 21:26
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• 21:30
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• 21:33
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• 21:43
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• 21:46
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• 21:51
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• 21:54
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• 22:00
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• 22:00
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• 22:03
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• 22:53
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• 23:20
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• 23:23
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• 23:26
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• 23:28
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• 23:30
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• 23:39
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• 23:43
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• 23:45
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• 23:48
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• 23:54
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• 23:56
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• 24:03
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• 24:46
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• 25:40
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• 25:42
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• 26:11
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• 26:16
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• 26:31
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• 26:37
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• 26:58
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  Speaker 1: Think of the great music, and I actually I actually
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• 27:09
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• 27:13
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• 27:17
  Speaker 1: but just I mean, Amy Mann's in this movie. Flee
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  Speaker 1: there all right. Last week I spoke to you guys
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: about my Love for Love Story, the John F. Kennedy
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Junior Carolyn Beset series on Hulu produced by the great
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy, and you know, it just reminded me we
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: used to do recommendations all the time on this show
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and it was great and I didn't have a reason
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: for stopping doing it. We talked about movies and films
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: and TV and records and books, lots of book talk
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in the past. I think I stopped doing it because
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it just became like too much, too
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: much of the conversation. But that's dumb. You know. We're
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: always trying to make these episodes a specific length based
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on a bunch of different things. I'm not going to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: bore you with the details. Maybe that's why. Maybe I
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: was trying to be more efficient. I don't know, but
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I love recommendations, and I know you guys do as well.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I love talking about stuff, even if it's cheesy stuff
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect, like this JFK story, which is believe me,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: it's full on cheese, but it's great. I've posted about
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: it in the Patreon chat, and honestly, you guys are
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like what, I don't know, very very little action on it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not the only one watching this damn
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: series anyhow. More Rex is what I'm saying. More Rex.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Right now, I'm in a hole. I'm caught up on
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Love Story and it comes out once a week, which
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I can't stand. I like the binge like most people.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm just sitting all week waiting around for Friday
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: night for this thing to pop again, and I got nothing.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: So send of your recommendations is what I'm saying. I
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: need some tv REX series, you know series. I think
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do The Killing? Have you guys watched
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: The Killing? It's an older kind of true crime show
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen ish. I'm intrigued because Patty Smith loves the show.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Loved this show, was devastated when it was canceled. Patty
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Smith had some excellent, excellent television tastes. She's a law
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and order fan. Patti Smith is kind of She's kind
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of the original true crime girl. That's what I've learned
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: from my research. Like if she if she were of
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: this generation, our generation, she would absolutely be like my
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: favorite murder listener. She probably isn't my favorite murder listener.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: She's she's pretty open and she's pretty she's into some
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: stuff I don't know about podcasts, but television. It's pretty
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: incredible what her obsession with some of these true crime shows.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm learning it stems back kind of similar to me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure a bunch of as it is with
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: a bunch of you guys as well. It stems back
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to how to the true crime that she was exposed
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to growing up versus a kid in New Jersey, in
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: her mom, what her mom was into her, her mom
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was obsessed with with the Lindberg case when her mom
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: was young, and that that kind of took over the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: radio airways for about ten weeks. It was, honestly, it
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: was like the first podcast ever before we even do
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: what podcasts were. But that kind of the myth of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: that that true crime case lived large in Patty Smith's house,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: you know. And then later, of course there's the whole
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Manson thing that kind of you know, enraptured you know,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: everybody nineteen sixty nine who is a fan of rock
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and roll. And then of course her time in New
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: York with the son of Sam who I was talking
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: about earlier, and all of this I believe kind of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: led to her surviving actually unlike a lot of her contemporaries,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and to her taste now in this kind of true
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: crimey television series stuff. It's pretty interesting. Anyways, that's all
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be mixed up in my Patti Smith story, which
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I'll have for you in a couple of weeks, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait for you to hear anyways recommendations. Maybe
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: what we'll start doing is maybe, you know, Zeth and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I were doing them in the wrap party, maybe we'll
• 31:40
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• 31:43
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• 31:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I want? I want a football team
• 31:48
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• 31:50
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