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- Lucas: So I want to talk about something that a lot of engineers I meet treat like a black box: negotiating stock packages at FAANG. Because here's the thing — base salary bands at these companies are pretty narrow. At Meta, a senior engineer's base is probably going to fall between $200,000 and $230,000. The real leverage, the place where you can move the needle by tens of thousands of dollars a year, is equity. Luna: Right, and I think people assume stock is stock — you get a grant, it vests over four years, done. But that's not how it works at all anymore. Lucas: Exactly. So let's start with the structure. A typical initial RSU grant at a company like Apple or Google is still a four-year vesting schedule with a one-year cliff. So you get nothing for the first twelve months, then 25 percent vests at month twelve, and then the rest vests monthly or quarterly after that. But here's the twist that a lot of candidates miss: refresher grants. These are additional stock grants that you start receiving after your first year, and they completely change the math. Luna: So you're not just living off that initial grant for four years — you're accumulating more stock along the way. Lucas: Right. And refreshers are often tied to performance. At Meta, for example, a strong performer might get a refresher worth $80,000 to $150,000 per year, vesting over four years. So by year three, you might have three tranches of stock vesting simultaneously — your initial grant's remaining vest, plus two refresher grants. That's where total compensation really compounds. Luna: But when you're negotiating an offer, you don't know what your refreshers will be. So how do you negotiate the initial grant effectively? Lucas: Great question. The key is understanding that the initial grant is negotiable, but not in the way people think. You can't just say 'double my RSUs.' What you can do is ask for a front-loaded grant. Some companies, like Apple, have a standard four-year equal vest. But you can sometimes negotiate a grant that vests 40 percent in year one, 30 in year two, 20 in year three, and 10 in year four. That gives you more stock earlier, which is especially valuable if you plan to stay for two or three years and then move. Luna: That's a really specific tactic. I've also heard of people getting a signing bonus in RSUs instead of cash — is that a thing? Lucas: It is. Some companies, especially Netflix and sometimes Meta, will offer a 'make-whole' grant if you're leaving unvested equity on the table at your current job. That's essentially a signing bonus in stock. And you can negotiate that. I worked with an engineer last year who was leaving Amazon with $120,000 in unvested stock. We asked Meta to cover that with a front-loaded grant vesting over two years. They said yes, and that was on top of the standard offer. Luna: So the key is to bring data — your current unvested equity, competing offers, market data from Levels.fyi. You have to show them why they should increase the stock. Lucas: Exactly. And let's talk about valuation. One thing that's changed in 2026 is that interest rates are still relatively high, which has depressed tech stock prices compared to the 2021 peak. So when you're negotiating, you might argue for more RSUs to compensate for the lower stock price. Recruiters understand that logic. If Apple's stock is down 20 percent from its high, you can say 'I need more shares to achieve the same total value I would have gotten two years ago.' Luna: But there's also the risk that the stock goes up after you join, and you end up with a huge windfall. That cuts both ways. Lucas: Absolutely, and that's part of the gamble. But one thing I tell engineers is: don't treat RSUs like lottery tickets. Treat them as deferred cash. When you're negotiating, focus on the grant dollar value, not the share count. And understand the dilution risk — some companies, especially ones that are not yet profitable, issue a lot of new shares, which dilutes your stake. Luna: Speaking of dilution, what about the four-year cliff? Does that still make sense in 2026? I feel like more companies are moving away from it. Lucas: Yeah, some are. I've seen more offers with no cliff, or with a monthly vest from day one. Amazon actually changed its policy a couple of years ago — they now offer a 5 percent per month vest after the first year, which is effectively a one-year cliff but then monthly. But Google still has the traditional cliff. So it's worth asking. If you're joining a company that still has a cliff, you can negotiate a sign-on bonus to cover that first year gap. Luna: That's a good bridge. Sign-on bonuses — cash or stock — are often more negotiable than people think. I've seen engineers get $50,000 sign-ons just by asking. Lucas: Yeah, and the strategy there is to push for a sign-on instead of more RSUs if you want immediate cash. Because RSUs are taxed as income when they vest, and you might owe a lot in taxes. A sign-on bonus is also taxed as income, but you get it right away. So if you have student loans or a big expense coming, cash now can be more valuable than stock later. Luna: Right. And you can invest that cash however you want. I know someone who took a $40,000 sign-on and put it into a diversified index fund instead of holding company stock. Lucas: That's smart. Diversification is underrated when you already work at the company — you're already tied to its performance through your salary and job security. Adding concentrated stock positions on top of that is risky. So negotiating for more cash or a larger sign-on can actually be a better risk-adjusted move. Luna: I want to circle back to the refresher point. Because I think a lot of engineers accept a lower initial grant thinking they'll make it up with refreshers. But refreshers are discretionary and performance-based. You don't want to count on them. Lucas: That's a really important caveat. Refreshers are not guaranteed. At Meta, they have a target refresher range, but if you're a low performer, you might get zero. So your initial grant should be something you'd be happy with even if you never get a single refresher. Everything else is upside. Luna: So what's the one concrete number or negotiation tactic you'd give to someone starting a FAANG interview process today? Lucas: I'd say: get competing offers. The single biggest lever for increasing your RSU grant is having another offer from a comparable company. If you have an offer from Google and Apple, you can play them off each other. Recruiters will literally ask you for the competing offer details, and they'll match or beat it. I've seen engineers increase their stock by 30 to 50 percent just by having two offers in hand. Luna: That's huge. And it requires planning — you need to time your interviews so offers come in around the same time. Lucas: Exactly. And use resources like Levels.fyi and Blind to know the typical ranges. For example, a senior engineer at Google in 2026 might get an initial RSU grant of $300,000 to $500,000 over four years. If you get an offer for $350,000, you can say 'I know the 75th percentile is $450,000, can you get closer to that?' And sometimes they just will. Luna: I've also seen people negotiate for a higher refresher target as part of the offer. Like, 'if I perform well in my first year, can you guarantee a certain refresher amount?' Is that ever successful? Lucas: Rarely, because refreshers are tied to performance reviews, which are subjective. But some companies, like Netflix, have a more formulaic approach. Netflix doesn't have RSUs — they give you the option to take your compensation in cash or stock, and you can change it quarterly. So it's a different game. But for most FAANGs, the refresher is not a negotiation point at hire. Luna: Let's talk about the psychology of it. A lot of engineers feel uncomfortable negotiating because they're afraid the offer will be rescinded. Lucas: That fear is mostly unfounded. Rescissions for negotiation are incredibly rare. The bigger risk is that you leave money on the table. Recruiters expect you to negotiate — it's part of the process. The worst that happens is they say no. And even then, you can often come back with a counteroffer. I've had engineers negotiate three rounds and still get an increase. Luna: If today's tech conversation gave you something usable — maybe a specific negotiation tactic or a way to think about refreshers — that's exactly what the show is here for. And a handful of listeners have been chipping in monthly at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo to keep these episodes ad-free and independent. It's a small group, but it makes a real difference. So if you ever get value from the conversation, that's one way to keep it going. Lucas: Yeah, and it's genuinely what funds the time we put into researching these topics. No ads, no sponsors — just listener support. So thanks to anyone who's done that. Luna: And we'll keep digging into the nuts and bolts. So back to negotiation — one last thing I want to hit: the timing. When in the process should you bring up stock? Lucas: Don't bring it up until you have a written offer. Before that, you have no leverage. But once you have the offer letter, you can ask for a call with the recruiter to discuss total compensation. Be specific: 'I was hoping we could look at the equity component. I have competing offers and I'd like to see if we can increase the RSU grant.' That's all it takes. Luna: And then be ready to share the competing offer details if you have them. If you don't, you can use market data. But it's weaker. Lucas: Right. And remember, the recruiter's job is to close you. They have a budget, and they want to use it. So help them help you. Give them a reason to go back to the compensation committee and say 'we need to increase this offer.' If you have a competing offer, you're giving them ammunition. If you just say 'I want more,' it's harder for them to justify. Luna: Final thought: do you think FAANG stock is still the wealth-building engine it was a decade ago? Lucas: I think it's still powerful, but with lower upside. Stock prices have grown slower since 2022, and valuations are higher. So the days of joining Google in 2012 and seeing your stock 10x in five years are probably over. But the base salaries and benefits are still excellent. The real wealth now comes from multiple grants compounding over a career, not a single grant exploding. So negotiate hard early, but also plan to stay long enough to accumulate refreshers. Luna: Good advice. And if you want to dig deeper into offer negotiation, the resources are out there. We'll link some in the show notes. Lucas: Yeah, Levels.fyi, Blind, and even the H1B salary database are your friends. Use them. And don't be afraid to ask for what you're worth.