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The General Election - A Florida-Centric View of What Is At Stake · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: And we're off third hour of the Morning Show with
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  Speaker 1: Preston Scott with Jose almost famous Konseko No can you
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  Speaker 1: see over there? It's just it's unbelievable. The striking resemblance
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  Speaker 1: between Jose can you see? And Kate Hudson is just
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  Speaker 1: mind boggling.
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  Speaker 2: It's uncanny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, It really is. She's my sister. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The funny thing about it is he's going to come
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  Speaker 1: in one day with a blonde wig. I just know him. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Halloween's right around the corner. Oh, we won't be Halloween, brother.
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  Speaker 1: He wears wigs all the time. Salnwzo with us familiar
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  Speaker 1: voice with Consumers Defense. He's the executive director. That website
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  Speaker 1: to learn more about that is Consumers Defense dot com.
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  Speaker 1: But buddy, it's our last visit before the election. How
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  Speaker 1: are you feeling right now? Big picture? Sixty thousand feet
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  Speaker 1: big picture?
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  Speaker 2: I actually feel better than I would feel comfortable being
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  Speaker 2: because I preface political predictions with this coveyat. Every single
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  Speaker 2: political prediction I have made since twenty ten, almost fifteen
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  Speaker 2: years has been wrong. I was wrong starting when I
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  Speaker 2: thought that Marco Rubio was a fool for taking on
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Chris for that US Senate seat.
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  Speaker 1: I was wrong, Okay, sal news. Oh, ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 1: our guests this morning. And it's been good having with him,
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  Speaker 1: having him here for half a segment. Oh no, you
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  Speaker 1: frighten me when you say things like this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually feel like Trump is peaking at the
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  Speaker 2: right time.
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  Speaker 1: And it seems like things are breaking right. Is he
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  Speaker 1: peaking or is the honeymoon the facade of Kamala wearing
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  Speaker 1: off to where more and more people are realizing, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's no joy there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the latter that's leading into the former.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough, so people are people are growing very restless
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  Speaker 2: with every performance she gives in an interview or something
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  Speaker 2: along those lines. Yeah she cannot Yeah, you can't do
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  Speaker 2: the cackle like she can do the cackle. But it
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  Speaker 2: is a remarkable thing that if she loses, I think
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a whole lot of study on the
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  Speaker 2: what went wrong, and it's largely just gonna fall on
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  Speaker 2: her individually. But I think that is leading into Trump
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  Speaker 2: beginning to get a little bit of window room or
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  Speaker 2: a cushion. In states like Wisconsin and Michigan and in Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 2: there was a concern about North Carolina because of the
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  Speaker 2: candidate for governor, there maybe being a drag, But I
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  Speaker 2: don't believe that's going to be the case. And I
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  Speaker 2: saw one thing that said Arizona's leaning red, not even
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  Speaker 2: a toss up anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So could you argue Donald Trump is acting more presidential?
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  Speaker 2: No, I just I'm asking now. I think if you
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  Speaker 2: look at his his rallies, the things he's doing, it's
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  Speaker 2: largely a replay of twenty sixteen. I don't see a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot of differentiation on the policy front and on
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  Speaker 2: articulating his agenda as he did in twenty sixteen. I
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  Speaker 2: just think, you know, these are the two candidates that
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  Speaker 2: we have, and like you say, often in the primary vote,
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  Speaker 2: your heart in the In the general vote, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're head. Yeah, you're logic and common sense, and so
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  Speaker 2: that's what we're seeing. But I would not, and I
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  Speaker 2: may generate some hate mail on this one. I just
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  Speaker 2: don't see him articulate himself more presidential than he did
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  Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: Let's transition to Florida's Governor Ronde Santas. Yes, what are
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  Speaker 1: what do you think of his handling of for example,
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  Speaker 1: Amendment four.
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  Speaker 2: The amendment for issue is really intriguing to me because
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  Speaker 2: he is undertaken a strategy that I have not seen
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  Speaker 2: happen with respect to a ballot measure or something along
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  Speaker 2: those lines. So basically, there's a series of ads promoting
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  Speaker 2: Amendment four, but in the context of protmoting Amendment four,
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  Speaker 2: they are they're stating lies about the existing laws.
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  Speaker 1: And so the.
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  Speaker 2: Governor's Cabinet, not cabinet agencies, but agency heads have been
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  Speaker 2: articulating this, and I believe it was maybe Department of
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  Speaker 2: Health or one of them actually sent some cease and
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  Speaker 2: desist letters to the TV kind of stations that are
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  Speaker 2: running these ads, saying you're you're running the risk of
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  Speaker 2: some charges here if you continue to do this. So
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  Speaker 2: that's something I haven't seen, and I'm happy to articulate
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  Speaker 2: what I think about it. But you know we can
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  Speaker 2: we could go from there.
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  Speaker 1: Sow new Zo with Consumers Defense, my guests. So you
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  Speaker 1: were saying, what are your thoughts on the strategy, It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of like I feel like I'm you know, that
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  Speaker 1: bold strategy Cotton with Governor DeSantis.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think if you were to have
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  Speaker 2: asked me ten or fifteen years ago, a likely more
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  Speaker 2: naive me in the policy world would have taken some
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  Speaker 2: issue maybe with the approach and the strategy, just how
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  Speaker 2: aggressive it is. I'm now almost fifty. I see this through,
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  Speaker 2: I would argue, a more seasoned lens, and I see
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  Speaker 2: it not just on its surface, but also what it's
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  Speaker 2: trying to do for future efforts down the road a
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  Speaker 2: generation from now and beginning to take back the narrative
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  Speaker 2: from the left. It's not about only these two amendments.
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  Speaker 2: It's about finally pushing back against a very coordinated media
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  Speaker 2: establishment aligned with the left that is completely okay with
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  Speaker 2: lying to promote their agenda, regardless of how radical it is.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my take right now.
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  Speaker 1: I would say that for the first time I can remember,
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  Speaker 1: a more conservative view, whether it's Amendment four or Amendment three,
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  Speaker 1: has been very well articulated in messaging out there in
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  Speaker 1: the public arena.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so kudos to the coalition, the individuals, the
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  Speaker 2: administration folks who have been participating in this, because as
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  Speaker 2: we have seen over the election cycles, there have been
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  Speaker 2: a host of these amendments that have been not as
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  Speaker 2: clearly messaged, not as clearly articulated that likely should have
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  Speaker 2: gone the way of you know, the dumpster, but ended
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  Speaker 2: up getting sixty percent and now we're having.
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  Speaker 1: To deal with Now we're stuck with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because once it's in there, you got to pass
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  Speaker 2: another amendment at sixty percent to alter it or remove it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think anyone in Florida would be hesitant to
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  Speaker 1: vote for Donald Trump at the prospect of Rond De
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  Speaker 1: Santis leaving his governor's office to take a position.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, that's a great question. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: You're meaning, like, people love Desanta so much, they don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see them, so they're going to vote either
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  Speaker 2: a third party rite In or Cony.
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  Speaker 1: I know of people that would have supported anybody but
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  Speaker 1: Desantus in the primary for that sole reason, just.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's a I mean, it's a great point. Anecdotally,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see that occurring.
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  Speaker 1: So what about Washington and Rondo Santis?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fun to consider, because let's just
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  Speaker 2: say Trump point. I mean, if you think about what
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  Speaker 2: would be attractive to a very popular conservative governor from
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  Speaker 2: the third largest state in the country, but who has
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  Speaker 2: only two years left after this in his final term,
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  Speaker 2: I think it would need to be Attorney General. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: Department of Homely and Security. I mean, Florida's a border state.
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  Speaker 2: We've done a lot in immigration policy over.
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  Speaker 1: The last he's a JAG officer.
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  Speaker 2: He's a JAG officer, So I was even thinking like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe veterans' affairs. Is that possible? No, I don't see
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  Speaker 2: that one being attractive enough. Nor do I see the
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  Speaker 2: other one that logically, for me, I would love to
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  Speaker 2: see him, and that is Department of Commerce. I think
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  Speaker 2: with his record of regulatory reform in the state and
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  Speaker 2: what he's done to continue Florida's progress and prosperity in
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  Speaker 2: the face of all of this in migration is remarkable,
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  Speaker 2: and he's done it without having to address or implement
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  Speaker 2: any new taxes. We've cut taxes every year or so.
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  Speaker 2: For me, i'd love to see him in Commerce, But again,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's one that would be attractive enough
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  Speaker 2: to get him out antilizing though, Yeah, but watch out
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  Speaker 2: for Attorney general short list as well as Department of
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  Speaker 2: Homeland Security should Trump take the election.
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  Speaker 1: Salnwzoh with Consumers Defense, my guest, always keeping an eye
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  Speaker 1: on what's going on here in the Sunshine State that
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  Speaker 1: he calls Home Florida Tax Watch every year does a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good job of going through the Florida budget identifying
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  Speaker 1: what they calls turkeys, which you know, from a grand
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  Speaker 1: scale of things, is just talking about things that they
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  Speaker 1: think might not need to be there. Your impressions of
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  Speaker 1: their release, Yeah, so in October so real. Recently they
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  Speaker 1: came out with their budget outlook, which is different than
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  Speaker 1: their Turkey report, but they do a pretty solid job
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  Speaker 1: on the analysis of kind of the economic trends, where
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  Speaker 1: the budget is going, some of their predictions and things
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  Speaker 1: along those lines. So I wanted to highlight a few
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  Speaker 1: of these things. They do predict a budget surplus of
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  Speaker 1: just over two billion four the coming budget prep cycle,
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  Speaker 1: so when the legislature comes in, they're looking at somewhere
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  Speaker 1: about or projecting around two billion dollars in surplus funds.
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  Speaker 1: But and this is a big one that I did
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  Speaker 1: not see coming before I read it. They're suggesting there
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  Speaker 1: could be some budget headwinds by twenty twenty eight.
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  Speaker 2: I've read that elsewhere. Why And that's the intriguing part.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like Florida is potentially having some challenges being
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  Speaker 2: a victim of its own success. So the areas that
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  Speaker 2: they highlighted, and they all make sense to me as
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  Speaker 2: I unpacked them are education and medicaid. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: that these make sense is as you expand population, as
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  Speaker 2: more people seven hundred and fifty eight hundred one thousand
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  Speaker 2: a day or are moving to the state, you have
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  Speaker 2: an increased stress on those two areas, in particular because
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  Speaker 2: you base your budget number for what they call the FEFP,
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  Speaker 2: the Florida Education Financing Program or plan, on the number
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  Speaker 2: of students, So more students means you've got to allocate
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  Speaker 2: more money. Secondly, is Medicaid. Now most people associate medicaid
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  Speaker 2: as a federal program, but it's actually a fifty to
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  Speaker 2: fifty match. The state ponies up fifty cents on the
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  Speaker 2: dollar the Fed, and there's some nuances to that, but
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  Speaker 2: generally speaking, the state is on the hook.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Medicaid currently comprises over thirty percent of Florida's entire budget.
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  Speaker 2: Now a portion of that is federal dollars coming in,
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  Speaker 2: but that's a huge chunk. Now, as Florida adds more people,
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  Speaker 2: the Medicaid roles are necessarily going to increase. And that's
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  Speaker 2: not even factoring in a couple of things along the
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  Speaker 2: lines of from the COVID days, the enhanced match that
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  Speaker 2: the federal government put on Medicaid in enrollees that may
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  Speaker 2: go away. That would put the state on the hook
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  Speaker 2: for more. Then you also have this idea that's still
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  Speaker 2: floating out there about Medicaid expansion, which is possible under Obamacare,
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  Speaker 2: but would need to go through a citizen's initiative because
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  Speaker 2: the legislature isn't going there.
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  Speaker 1: What's the recommendation they have for this?
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  Speaker 2: And this is an area where I would have loved
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  Speaker 2: to have seen them go a little bit further. But
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  Speaker 2: I get that tax watches, wheelhouses, really the Florida budget
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  Speaker 2: process and the general revenue that we get from Florida taxpayers.
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  Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen them come in
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  Speaker 2: and do like, just recommend the Feds block gran everything,
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  Speaker 2: give Florida all of the money, let the state innovate
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  Speaker 2: on education and in the realm of healthcare and medicate
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  Speaker 2: for the safety net. But they're recommending at minimum that
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  Speaker 2: the legislature really take a hard look at the member projects.
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  Speaker 2: So last budget cycle they pointed to a number of
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  Speaker 2: two point eight billion out of the one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ten twelve, whatever it was budget that were just member projects.
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  Speaker 2: You want some money for a particular park or some
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  Speaker 2: import might be yeah. So I would venture a guess
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  Speaker 2: that if the revenue estimating group, which is called the
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  Speaker 2: Revenue Estimating Conference, begins to align with tax watches, predictions,
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  Speaker 2: or projections, you might see this legislature come back in
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  Speaker 2: and say, all right, we might need to tighten a
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  Speaker 2: little bit in this area because they're certainly not going
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  Speaker 2: to raise taxes anywhere. Is there any thought down the
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  Speaker 2: road entertaining going up one percent? Not that I'm hearing,
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  Speaker 2: and I have. The only thing I've even become privy
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  Speaker 2: to is an examination of Florida's property tax system, and
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  Speaker 2: if they were to do away with property taxes entirely,
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  Speaker 2: what would the mix of revenues come from to make
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  Speaker 2: up for all of that? And there's been some discussion of, well,
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  Speaker 2: if we wanted to raise the sales tax, how high
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  Speaker 2: would it need to go or would it need to
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  Speaker 2: be combined with others? But outside of that, I have
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  Speaker 2: not heard anything about any tax hikes in any way,
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  Speaker 2: shape or form.
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  Speaker 1: We're just chatting away in here Salmuzo with Consumer's Defense,
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  Speaker 1: and we're talking about it. It's all sort of kind
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  Speaker 1: of election related. So let's just go ahead and talk
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  Speaker 1: about the Sunshine State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so within Florida, you've got a ton of election happening.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a ton of different races.
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  Speaker 2: So one at the top, POTUS President, is Florida's in play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna take back Florida. I yeah, insert insert your
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  Speaker 2: cackle here. I for reasons I stipulated earlier. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a fan of making political predictions, but I'll make one here.
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  Speaker 2: I think Trump wins and carries it by about seven
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  Speaker 2: to twelve points. The Republican voter advantage in Florida register
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  Speaker 2: Republicans over Democrats, it's over a million. So unless you
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  Speaker 2: have a few hundred thousand registered Republicans shifting and voting
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  Speaker 2: for Harris, Florida's just solid red. Now, the statistic I
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  Speaker 2: think needs to be paid attention to is will Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Will Florida give Trump more of a win than DeSantis
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  Speaker 2: got two years prior. Now, remember that was a nineteen
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  Speaker 2: and a half almost twenty point victory a million and
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  Speaker 2: a half votes. I think Trump the polling suggests he's
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  Speaker 2: going to underperform compar to DeSantis. I think he's going
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  Speaker 2: to overperform compared to the polls, so we'll have to see.
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  Speaker 1: How that which then lands it right in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, lands it right in the middle. Now, the Dems
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  Speaker 2: are likely going to claim anything short of DeSantis's margin
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  Speaker 2: is progress from them. It's a victory. They're on the
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  Speaker 2: road to being relevant again. But I wouldn't lend that
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  Speaker 2: much credibility.
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  Speaker 1: Before we talk about the state legislature and that makeup.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the federal offices, the House and Senate.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, in Congress, I think we've got what's a twenty
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  Speaker 2: eight or twenty nine congressional seats up, all of them
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  Speaker 2: in the state. The largely they're going to go the
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  Speaker 2: way they have always gone. One in particular, I'm paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to is Anna Paulina Luna. I can't remember the
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  Speaker 2: district number, but it's down in the Tampa area. She
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  Speaker 2: is a very Trump like candidate. She's what you would
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  Speaker 2: call like a maga, you know, Republican, and according to
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  Speaker 2: the polls, she he's in a pretty challenging race with
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  Speaker 2: her competitor, another young female. I cannot remember her name,
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  Speaker 2: but the polling has it. Some of them are even
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  Speaker 2: within the margin of error, Okay, And if that one
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  Speaker 2: goes for the challenger, if Luna loses her seat, I
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  Speaker 2: think the Republicans are going to have a very tough
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  Speaker 2: time maintaining control of.
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  Speaker 1: Congress over one seat.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of a canary in the coal mine.
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  Speaker 2: I think if the voting tendencies are well, we're voting
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  Speaker 2: for Trump. But yeah, in this congressional race, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: go for it. We're going to flip the seat from
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  Speaker 2: a Trump Republican to somebody else. That's not a good
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  Speaker 2: sign nationally.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree with you on that, all righty,
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  Speaker 1: I just because it's Tampa.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but bear in mind she's a MAGA heavy Republican.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that. But I don't think Trump's winning Tampa,
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  Speaker 1: but he's gonna win the state. Agreed. But that's a
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  Speaker 1: subset of the state that is very that tends to
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  Speaker 1: lean well left.
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  Speaker 2: You're correct, so correct. That's so this is one will revisit,
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  Speaker 2: Okay in November to see how someone spike in football though,
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  Speaker 2: I'll have a football here. Okay, we can do that,
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  Speaker 2: all right, real quickly. State state. I do not anticipate
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  Speaker 2: much change in the legislature. The one I'm paying attention
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  Speaker 2: to is Carolina Amisty's race. She's currently facing charges related
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  Speaker 2: to like forging a notarized document. She's fighting the charges,
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  Speaker 2: but her opponent's trying hard to use that to his advantage.
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  Speaker 2: It's also a swing district. It did go for Biden,
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  Speaker 2: so that's what I'm paying attention to to see if
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  Speaker 2: it shifts.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bunch here that I suspect we can visit
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  Speaker 1: next month after the election to see who goes where
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  Speaker 1: may be yes, sort of land of definitely got to
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  Speaker 1: saddle back up. Literally, that's what I do here behind
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  Speaker 1: the content. I'm like saddling up like I'm getting on
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  Speaker 1: a horse. Here. Sally New's final segment the state constitutional amendments.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's kind of have a rundown of those
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  Speaker 2: in this final segment because it is the last time
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  Speaker 2: that we're coming before the election and early voting has started.
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  Speaker 2: Let's level set so the amendments require a sixty percent
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  Speaker 2: threshold to pass.
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  Speaker 1: Now, sixty percent period. That number, not fifty nine point nine,
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  Speaker 1: not sixty plus one.
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  Speaker 2: It's sixty percent, sixty point zero zero zero zero. Once
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  Speaker 2: it hits sixty it is passed and it is in
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  Speaker 2: the constitution. Now, that is sixty percent of the votes
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  Speaker 2: cast one way or another on that on that amendment,
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  Speaker 2: not sixty percent of the voters casting. Because some people,
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  Speaker 2: I mean you and I probably agree on this. Amendments
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  Speaker 2: three and four are going to get the lion's share
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  Speaker 2: of the votes. The others people might not care about
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  Speaker 2: one way or the other. Yeah, And as we walk
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  Speaker 2: through them, it'll become clear which ones, because of the
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  Speaker 2: polling and such that that are getting the lion share
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  Speaker 2: of the attention.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's easy to say real quickly on
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  Speaker 1: the front end that most of these, if not all
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  Speaker 1: of them, they just don't belong in the constitution. But
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  Speaker 1: that's where we are. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the framework that I use to analyze amendments first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost is is this something that has to go
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  Speaker 2: into the governing document? If it's not, If it's a
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  Speaker 2: policy goal, and it may be a good idea, I
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  Speaker 2: am almost always going to vote no simply on that merit.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I think the.
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  Speaker 2: Legislature has a role. If they want to do it,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they can enact the policy. And if I don't like that, I,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: you know, run a different candidate, right, So let's go
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: through them. So you've got Amendment one was put on
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: by the legislature. It is changing school board races from
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: currently they are nonpartisan. It would make school board races partisans.
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  Speaker 2: So if you vote yes for this, you want the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: school board races in your county to have an R, A, D,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: and I whatever on them.
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  Speaker 1: And most people say, well, they are by you know,
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  Speaker 1: by actual practice anyway, because of the way the campaigning
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: takes place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that kind of reflects in the polling on this.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm seeing is it's pulling currently in the forties,
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  Speaker 2: but thirty percent or undecided. I don't know that those
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: that undecided are going to break enough to get it
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  Speaker 2: across a fish line. That would be my predition. Do
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: you care one way or the other?
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's more transparent if they have to designate party,
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  Speaker 2: it does it does rise to something that the legislature
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  Speaker 2: can't do this, so it would have to go in
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  Speaker 2: the governing documents. So for that one, I'm leaning toward
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a yes.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Amendment two.
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  Speaker 2: Amendment two legislative proposal enshrines the right to hunt and fish.
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  Speaker 2: I've only seen one pole, but it has it at
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: eighty percent approval. It's likely going to pass. All it
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: does is protect against should Florida go deep blue at
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  Speaker 2: some point down the road, a generation or two from now,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and they want to restrict hunting and fishing to a degree.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and do it without changing the constitution exactly, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: now three, Le's skip three and four.
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  Speaker 2: Lets so let's do five and six real quick. Amendment
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  Speaker 2: five legislative proposal, the homestead exemption. It pegs it to inflation.
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  Speaker 2: It's currently pulling at eighty percent, and it's solid for passage.
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  Speaker 2: Amendment six also the legislative initiative repeal of campaign public financing. Yes,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: it's polling at fifty. It could get to sixty. But
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of ballot fatigue is going to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: happen down there. Amendment three, recreational marijuana.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just throw something in? Please do if you
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that we don't pay for someone
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to campaign anymore, which personally I'm in favor of. You
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: be the ones getting down to Amendment six, and you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: can you can swing it. Vote for the very reason,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: for the very reason sal said, vote fatigue exactly. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Recreational marijuana I'm currently seeing it pulling anywhere
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  Speaker 1: from fifty seven to sixty six percent, So within the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: margins of error, right around that sixty I predict it's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: likely going to pass. I think, for better or worse enough,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Republicans are for whatever reason, in favor of this. I
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: am against it for the very first reason I stipulated.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: This is a policy decision. It's not a constitutional decision,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, And so the legislature can authorize and
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: decriminalize and allow for recreational marijuana.
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  Speaker 2: They have chosen not to. They like the status quo,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and they can't at any at any time. So for
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that reason, I'm a no on this one.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But do you think people understand the nuance of the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: bill and how it benefits one singular company, grants them
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: immunity and deemnifies them basically and gives them a monopoly.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I think the people who are really paying attention to these, yes,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it does register. I think for the vast majority of folks,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: no an amendment for amendment for the abortion rights. It's
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: between fifty six and sixty one percent. For a variety
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: of reasons that you've articulated even this show in earlier segments,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this one is an extreme change from the existing law,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: and as I've heard, the governor even said, you can
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: be a pro choice Floridian and be very scared of
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the implications should this amendment pass, because it would effectively
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: allow any healthcare provider not.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Just find however they want to define.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: It, it would allow them to terminate a pregnancy into
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the ninth month, and the legislature would be powerless to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: do anything about that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: No law shall restrict.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the wording on this presents a very very concerning
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: challenge to even I would think some pro choice people
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: in the state.
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  Speaker 1: Next time you and I meet, it's going to be very,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot of fun unpacking all of
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  Speaker 2: this stuff. Thanks always a pleasure, my
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