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- 0:29What is going on, everybody?
- 0:30Welcome to the Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 0:33Um, I still love that or theme song.
- 0:36I cannot get enough of that theme song.
- 0:39And it's so funny because I
- 0:40get it from royalty free
- 0:41music so that we don't get
- 0:43dinged by anything.
- 0:44And as I'm making the behind
- 0:45the scenes for the masters,
- 0:47like I'm using different things.
- 0:49And as I'm editing,
- 0:50I have to listen to the
- 0:50same song over and over again.
- 0:52Then I'll be like walking
- 0:53through the house,
- 0:54singing this royalty free
- 0:55song that nobody in the world knows, but,
- 0:58but like the few people that use it.
- 1:00um but I I have always loved
- 1:02our theme song on here and
- 1:04so glad that uh we found
- 1:06that and I think I heard it
- 1:07on one of proven's video oh
- 1:09yeah oh they started using
- 1:11it I was like yeah that's
- 1:12our I was like that's the
- 1:13song that we play yep
- 1:16everybody wants to be like
- 1:17the original right kenneth
- 1:21Well, so glad you could join us tonight.
- 1:23It's Sunday night.
- 1:23We're back at our normal time slot,
- 1:25normal night.
- 1:28Wild day, wild weekend.
- 1:31Both of my college team and
- 1:33my pro team won this weekend,
- 1:35so I'm in a much better
- 1:36mood this week than I am in most weeks.
- 1:40But, yeah.
- 1:42Penn State was a little
- 1:43frustrating last night, but...
- 1:46msu the game and could not
- 1:48score they could not score
- 1:50somehow um but ended up
- 1:52winning the game in the end
- 1:53so and the bears actually
- 1:56look kind of good today
- 1:57that's good we'll see how
- 1:59the lions do coming up
- 2:01shortly are they tomorrow
- 2:05yeah they're yeah they're
- 2:06tomorrow eight yeah monday
- 2:08night football football yep
- 2:10niners I think we're doing
- 2:11well right like real well
- 2:17I didn't look, um,
- 2:19I haven't even looked at
- 2:20many of the scores from today.
- 2:22I've had a busy day,
- 2:23so I have to catch up on that.
- 2:29Um,
- 2:30Corey Leonard says on the Russ headed
- 2:32home from beach brawl.
- 2:33I'm assuming that's a bus.
- 2:35Um,
- 2:37Road?
- 2:38He's on the road.
- 2:39On the road.
- 2:42Okay.
- 2:44I am shocked that beach brawl went on.
- 2:46I was very curious on that myself.
- 2:51I know that Pensacola got
- 2:52kind of missed by the hurricane,
- 2:55but everything around it
- 2:56would have been affected to
- 2:57get there because it
- 2:59actually affected the
- 3:00Masters Fitness
- 3:01Championship in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
- 3:04So I am shocked that they were able to go.
- 3:07Were people not able to travel there?
- 3:09Yeah.
- 3:11So we can jump.
- 3:12Well, first, like, subscribe,
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- 3:19we are so appreciative of
- 3:21all you people that come in
- 3:23and listen to us every week.
- 3:25We love you all.
- 3:27Saturday,
- 3:28I decided I was going to drive up
- 3:29to MFC and see my people.
- 3:34I've become so ingrained in
- 3:36the Masters community now
- 3:37that they are my people.
- 3:38I like hanging out with them,
- 3:40and I have such a good time.
- 3:42So we drove up,
- 3:44and this year they did it different.
- 3:45They did all the RX and
- 3:47teams in the morning and
- 3:49all the elites in the
- 3:50afternoon and evening.
- 3:52I did not know that,
- 3:53or I would have left later in the day
- 3:56And then stayed later into
- 3:58the evening knowing that
- 3:59that was kind of the way it was.
- 4:01But we ended up getting
- 4:02there like in time to see a
- 4:03couple RX heats and then a
- 4:05big long break.
- 4:08And so we sat there for the break,
- 4:10but got to see a bunch of
- 4:11people and then stayed for
- 4:15one full event of the elite
- 4:17and part of another event.
- 4:20But it was reported to me by
- 4:22many people there that Friday,
- 4:25there were five judges that
- 4:26could not get in and
- 4:28fifteen judges who were
- 4:30first responders who were
- 4:31told they were not allowed to leave.
- 4:34So that's total judges that
- 4:37could not make it to MFC
- 4:39and Friday night went really late.
- 4:42Yeah.
- 4:43Because it slowed everything down, uh,
- 4:45for the competition just
- 4:46because of lack of judges.
- 4:48Um, but they, they got through it all and,
- 4:51and then started back, uh, on Saturday,
- 4:54recruited some judges from somewhere.
- 4:58I know like Peter Brown's
- 4:59wife wasn't volunteering
- 5:00this year and did and jumped into judge.
- 5:03And she is,
- 5:04she's been a judge several places.
- 5:07So they got some quality
- 5:08people to jump into.
- 5:10And then Saturday,
- 5:11they're pretty much right
- 5:12on time throughout the day.
- 5:17I like the split up.
- 5:18I just wish I would have
- 5:19known for my schedule to be
- 5:22able to get there at a time
- 5:24where I could have spent more time.
- 5:28But I got to see Jim.
- 5:29I got to see Terry.
- 5:31I got to see Ronica.
- 5:34I got to see Lauren.
- 5:36And Lauren, I joked with her.
- 5:41She did an event that had double-unders,
- 5:44and she caught the Carolins.
- 5:49Oh, no.
- 5:50And she goes...
- 5:53I need help.
- 5:54Like it, they just went and she couldn't,
- 5:56she just couldn't find the rhythm.
- 5:58And then all of a sudden,
- 5:59like on the last two rounds,
- 6:00they came back.
- 6:01That was a chest to bar and skier workout.
- 6:03I saw that one of hers.
- 6:04And I was like, Oh, I feel your pain.
- 6:08Cause Lex had sent me the video.
- 6:09She was like,
- 6:09Lauren's about to go right
- 6:10now and go watch her.
- 6:12So I put it on and I was like, Oh no.
- 6:15in there in there many times
- 6:18yeah she really struggled
- 6:19on that double under and
- 6:20then ronica went total boss
- 6:23move and went unbroken
- 6:24double under on the last
- 6:26round to catch a bunch of
- 6:27people and then what got
- 6:29across the finish line in
- 6:31total cramp calf leg wince
- 6:36face um and I'm like that's
- 6:38the face you make when you
- 6:39see me for the first time
- 6:42Um, but yeah, it was,
- 6:44it was really fun to watch.
- 6:45Um,
- 6:47I just wish there was a way in the
- 6:49masters community that we
- 6:51didn't have to watch the
- 6:53same event for four and a half hours.
- 6:57Right.
- 6:58I wish there was a way that
- 6:59you could break it up better,
- 7:01but I know logistically
- 7:02like moving equipment and all that stuff,
- 7:04like what else are you going to do?
- 7:06But it just takes away from
- 7:08the excitement of the events.
- 7:13So you have that event, which was long.
- 7:16That was a twelve to
- 7:18fourteen minute workout and
- 7:20it's got skier.
- 7:21It's got fifty wall balls in
- 7:23the middle of it.
- 7:25A bunch of double unders,
- 7:26not so you're not seeing a
- 7:28lot of movement on the
- 7:29floor where you can even see the race.
- 7:33I didn't think many of the workouts had
- 7:37Movement on the floor.
- 7:38I was pretty frustrated with that.
- 7:41I mean,
- 7:42you had the one camera that for the
- 7:44main floor that had commentary.
- 7:46So you could kind of hear
- 7:47what was going on,
- 7:49but the other floor was
- 7:50just the static camera.
- 7:51I mean, thankful they had it at all,
- 7:53but you could not tell what was going on.
- 7:57They needed placards.
- 7:58They need, or like they need to,
- 8:00they need to tell the story on the floor.
- 8:02So people watching can see
- 8:04where people are at and a
- 8:05finish line still didn't,
- 8:10So I just got on my phone.
- 8:11We were speaking before this
- 8:13about Patrick Mahomes
- 8:14taking out his own number
- 8:15one wide receiver.
- 8:17Rasheed Rice is feared to
- 8:18have suffered a torn ACL.
- 8:20Additional testing to be done.
- 8:24He better give him some of
- 8:25that contract that he has.
- 8:27Yeah.
- 8:28Oh, my gosh.
- 8:31So I think that we talk
- 8:32about that with a lot of events.
- 8:35that when you get away from
- 8:36the games or high-level, like, Rogue,
- 8:39like,
- 8:40the story just doesn't get told as well.
- 8:42That ten-round event with Sandbag,
- 8:45Handstand Walk, Deadlift,
- 8:47nothing changes.
- 8:49And it's just this redundant...
- 8:51people lift the sandbag I
- 8:52don't even know how many
- 8:54reps like six or seven
- 8:55times and then you do a
- 8:57handstand walk down it has
- 8:59to be unbroken for some not
- 9:01for others and then you
- 9:02deadlift five times and
- 9:03then you hand stand walk
- 9:05back down and you and it's
- 9:07ten rounds of that like my
- 9:09goodness you couldn't even
- 9:10tell what round they were
- 9:11in right it just gets to be
- 9:14a mash-up so no visual like um
- 9:18nothing changed on the floor
- 9:21no pylon no yeah like
- 9:22placard or pylon or
- 9:23something so that like you
- 9:24can track the story like I
- 9:27they've got to figure
- 9:28something out yeah someone
- 9:32flipping one of those like
- 9:34score you know the athletes
- 9:38I'm sure and veronica
- 9:39saying I couldn't even tell
- 9:41I'm sure the athletes
- 9:41couldn't tell what place
- 9:42they were in right
- 9:44And that's on the smaller floor.
- 9:45Then you go to the bigger floor.
- 9:47It's so wide.
- 9:48And the seating was bizarre.
- 9:51Katie Calliore was in like lane nineteen.
- 9:55Danny Oliveri's in like lane eight.
- 9:58Lauren's in like lane thirteen.
- 10:01How do they see each other
- 10:02when they're like they
- 10:03ended up being all in the
- 10:04top four at the end of the
- 10:05weekend and they're split miles apart.
- 10:12So Corey,
- 10:13they did not for every event they
- 10:14did for the first event I was there for.
- 10:18Yeah.
- 10:18I think there was one,
- 10:20I guess technically the
- 10:21last event for elite, the run, um,
- 10:25clean and jerk,
- 10:26I guess technically you
- 10:27could say they finished on the mat.
- 10:29Um,
- 10:30That one was weird because
- 10:31of a stagger start.
- 10:32So some people ran to their
- 10:33bar to finish and some
- 10:34people stopped on their number mat.
- 10:38But I mean,
- 10:39that one you could kind of tell anyway,
- 10:40because you were coming in
- 10:41on a foot race.
- 10:42So you could see as people came in,
- 10:45but the ones on the floor,
- 10:46like that deadlift
- 10:47handstand walk one or the pick six,
- 10:50the overhead squat row,
- 10:51they just put the barbell
- 10:53down after the back squat and we're done.
- 10:55Like you didn't even know if they were,
- 10:56you were like, wait,
- 10:57are they doing burpee
- 10:58penalty or are they done?
- 10:59No idea.
- 11:03Andrew Sten says,
- 11:04that's why I hate twenty lane floors,
- 11:05but both MFC and Legends
- 11:07will do it due to the number of athletes.
- 11:10And I do kind of understand
- 11:11you've got to get... It's
- 11:12either that or we watch
- 11:13eight hours of the same event.
- 11:15It makes sense to do it.
- 11:18But somehow tell the story
- 11:20differently that you can tell.
- 11:22I don't care that there's
- 11:24twenty on the... You're right.
- 11:26It was wide.
- 11:27It was hard for...
- 11:31maybe a camera to fit
- 11:32everyone on on tv but that
- 11:35doesn't mean that it can't
- 11:36still be a thirty foot long
- 11:39floor they had the room
- 11:40there at mfc that does like
- 11:42they can still run a proper
- 11:44event that has a start and
- 11:46a finish and has a placard
- 11:48and I I mean it could be
- 11:50equipment money a little
- 11:52bit I don't I don't know
- 11:53like what's keeping them
- 11:54from doing that but
- 11:57you can tell a story on the
- 11:58floor with a little bit of
- 12:00better planning for these workouts.
- 12:03They had that event on
- 12:03Friday where it was max
- 12:05bought burpee box overs after the buy-in.
- 12:08They did have a placard for that.
- 12:10And that was good.
- 12:11So leave that out there.
- 12:12Why wasn't that out there
- 12:13for the deadlift dancing
- 12:14walk so that we could see the lane,
- 12:15the rounds.
- 12:17Right.
- 12:18You had enough for that one.
- 12:20So why not move it over to
- 12:22the other floor for a ten round event?
- 12:27so yeah but overall like I
- 12:30thought it was a great
- 12:31event like there were a lot
- 12:33of people in the stands um
- 12:35probably even more than
- 12:36last year um with less big
- 12:40names yeah I think what
- 12:43this has become is the
- 12:46stepping stone into the masters world
- 12:51Yeah, which I sort of feel like the legend,
- 12:54the December legends needs to be that.
- 12:57And MFC needs to... On one hand,
- 13:01I didn't get to go.
- 13:02I had a wedding this weekend,
- 13:03so I didn't even get to go
- 13:04and support Ron and Jim and Terry.
- 13:07A little frustrating.
- 13:08But I've said this.
- 13:11I think MFC could be one of
- 13:12the top Masters competitions.
- 13:15The venue is wonderful.
- 13:17They typically have...
- 13:20like we usually have eight
- 13:21or nine events with a
- 13:23swimming event and I get it.
- 13:24We're in this period where
- 13:25we need to figure out if
- 13:26we're going to have swimming or not.
- 13:27But I didn't like that there
- 13:29was only six events and no
- 13:30swimming this year.
- 13:31I don't feel like there was enough,
- 13:33enough events or enough
- 13:36broad time domains.
- 13:38Like the one,
- 13:40the deadlift one was like a
- 13:41twenty minute cap.
- 13:42But I mean, some people took eleven,
- 13:43like potentially the
- 13:45longest some people were on
- 13:46the floor was like twelve minutes.
- 13:48It's still kind of like the games.
- 13:50And I like in the past, we've had like.
- 13:53Twenty minute AMRAPs.
- 13:55Like you,
- 13:55you have to work out for twenty minutes.
- 13:59And I think you need to have
- 14:00that long event.
- 14:01I think you need to.
- 14:02I think you need like the
- 14:04last events today.
- 14:05Both of them were two fifty point events.
- 14:09And I don't know, like,
- 14:10you're just I think you're
- 14:12getting goofy with the
- 14:13program and trying to just
- 14:14throw in more scores.
- 14:15It's not necessarily the
- 14:17best way to spread those points around.
- 14:22I don't disagree.
- 14:24like that there's two
- 14:25masters competitions
- 14:26outside the games um but I
- 14:29think because of timing
- 14:30alone the mfc has become
- 14:34like and I'm this is not a
- 14:36dig on them it's because of
- 14:37timing people have just
- 14:39finished the games water
- 14:42palooza socal just happened
- 14:43with the masters division
- 14:45now you have this it's become like the jv
- 14:50for people to see where they stand.
- 14:53It's the only,
- 14:54it's the only competition I
- 14:54know of with a thirty to
- 14:55thirty four year old
- 14:56division where people can
- 14:58like see where they stack
- 15:00up against people their own
- 15:01age and not have to go
- 15:03against twenty year olds
- 15:03for the first time.
- 15:05Like that's where you have
- 15:06your Katie Cagliore's and
- 15:07Danny Oliveri's and Lauren
- 15:09Olsen's who have never got
- 15:10to do that before and got
- 15:12to see where they stand.
- 15:14And they all did well.
- 15:15They all finished in the top four.
- 15:17Right.
- 15:18Yeah.
- 15:18I mean, two years ago,
- 15:20it was like the last week in October,
- 15:23like the twenty second, twenty third,
- 15:24like that type of weekend.
- 15:26And it was that way for like
- 15:28three or four years, always,
- 15:30always the weekend after my birthday.
- 15:32And then last year they
- 15:34changed it to the like the twenty nine,
- 15:36twenty eighth of September,
- 15:38which means like so last
- 15:39year I had to compete in
- 15:40thirty nine again.
- 15:41Like all from the year before, I was like,
- 15:43oh, good.
- 15:44The next year I'll be able to do forty.
- 15:45And then, no, they changed it.
- 15:47And I don't think it was a
- 15:48great idea to move it up
- 15:50like three weeks.
- 15:51I think keeping it further
- 15:52from the games would have
- 15:53brought in some of those
- 15:54people to maybe still do MFC.
- 15:57What about if it was like late June?
- 16:03As a warm-up for the games.
- 16:06That was a big gap between
- 16:08semis and the games for the Masters.
- 16:10Because everything's online until then,
- 16:12so it's a chance to get
- 16:14your feet wet prior to the
- 16:15games in person.
- 16:18I think that's where that
- 16:19one should get placed,
- 16:20and then the games can be
- 16:21in that August area.
- 16:25I really like that.
- 16:26You get that a couple months before.
- 16:29You need an in-person comp.
- 16:30A lot of Masters,
- 16:32everything's online until
- 16:33you get to the big show.
- 16:35One,
- 16:36you could do drug testing there for
- 16:38the games as well.
- 16:42I really liked that idea
- 16:43because I know that when
- 16:44they were late October,
- 16:45they couldn't get judges
- 16:46because they were all at rogue.
- 16:48Ah, right.
- 16:50Yeah.
- 16:51So you're running into different,
- 16:53it's not just the athletes,
- 16:55it's the judges and the
- 16:56volunteers and like you
- 16:58need that whole crew to kind of happen.
- 17:02And so, yeah.
- 17:05Yeah.
- 17:07And Andrew Sten says it does
- 17:08depend on when the Masters games happen.
- 17:10If it's where it is this year,
- 17:12that Carolyn's idea makes perfect sense.
- 17:15A tune-up live competition
- 17:17before the games,
- 17:18I think people would jump
- 17:19at that opportunity.
- 17:22Yeah.
- 17:22Cause it's like the semis
- 17:23are normally now we don't
- 17:24even know what the season
- 17:25will look like next year.
- 17:26We can talk about that later,
- 17:27but like the semis are
- 17:29normally end of may middle
- 17:31or beginning middle of June.
- 17:32So it would be,
- 17:34and it's not like there's that many, uh,
- 17:36masters athletes that will compete there.
- 17:38There are a few,
- 17:38but those athletes are
- 17:39getting their in-person competition.
- 17:41It'd be for the rest of them, um,
- 17:43to get their feet wet before.
- 17:45So that's why I think end of June is a,
- 17:48you know, mid end of June would be good.
- 17:51Yeah, I really,
- 17:52and I think they get way
- 17:55more participation.
- 17:59Yeah, I like that.
- 18:01I like that.
- 18:03So overall, I thought it was great.
- 18:05Like Jamie said,
- 18:06and we've said this a billion times,
- 18:08their facility is awesome.
- 18:10Tons and tons of parking.
- 18:13It's a huge facility.
- 18:15The ushers that are hired
- 18:16from the facility are super
- 18:17nice guys and ladies.
- 18:20They're very accommodating.
- 18:22And there's just tons of spot to camp out.
- 18:25Right.
- 18:26And hotels are super reasonable,
- 18:28super reasonable, plenty.
- 18:30And they had an extra set of
- 18:31stands this year.
- 18:32Um,
- 18:33last year it was just on the far end of
- 18:35the one of the big floor
- 18:37this year that I'm all the
- 18:38way up the front and down the side.
- 18:43I do have to thank a special angel,
- 18:45though.
- 18:46Julie was sitting in the
- 18:47stands in the fourth row.
- 18:49I've talked about on this show,
- 18:50she needs knee replacements.
- 18:53She lost her balance coming
- 18:54down the stairs of the stands,
- 18:57and a guy grabbed her by the arm.
- 19:01And another lady saw it and
- 19:02pushed her on the opposite shoulder.
- 19:04And it swung her enough that
- 19:06her balance pivoted from
- 19:08forward to sideways.
- 19:10And she was able to catch
- 19:11herself and not go face
- 19:13first down the stairs.
- 19:14Oh, my gosh.
- 19:16And whoever that person was, thank you,
- 19:19thank you, thank you.
- 19:22Because that was scary.
- 19:24Scary as hell to me.
- 19:26And then Dan Church,
- 19:27who is an avid listener of
- 19:29us and one of the best guys
- 19:31in the space and is a
- 19:33trauma nurse in his real life,
- 19:35helped her down the stairs
- 19:37the rest of the way.
- 19:39So it was cool that this
- 19:41little community gathered
- 19:42around her in a very
- 19:45emergency situation and
- 19:47made sure she didn't.
- 19:49All I could keep picturing
- 19:50is her face first into that
- 19:52cement at the bottom of the stairs.
- 19:55And the guy that caught her was strong.
- 19:58He got her with one arm and
- 20:00then pulled her.
- 20:02And then the other lady kind
- 20:03of gave her her balance and big breath.
- 20:11Corey Leonard, Dan Church is a saint.
- 20:14Pretty close.
- 20:14I think he's up for it in
- 20:15the next couple of years.
- 20:17he did elite this year he
- 20:18did awesome how'd it go um
- 20:25he was in thirteenth out of
- 20:27twenty when I got there um
- 20:31he the next event who I
- 20:32watched him was the sandbag
- 20:33handstand walk he started
- 20:36slow and then started
- 20:37catching people because his
- 20:39handstands never faltered
- 20:40for a big dude like that
- 20:42guy can go inverted forever
- 20:44and he just started clipping people off
- 20:47um and I think he was in
- 20:49like second or third um
- 20:50when it came to the end of
- 20:52that one so I don't know
- 20:53how he finished overall
- 20:55because I instagram they
- 20:56only put up the top five
- 20:58yeah so he did not make it
- 20:59to the top five but um but
- 21:03yeah always rooting for
- 21:05that guy super super nice
- 21:07guy um so there's that
- 21:13We'll move on to tomorrow.
- 21:14Episode four of all access
- 21:18behind the scenes of the
- 21:19twenty twenty four Masters
- 21:21CrossFit Games comes out at
- 21:23twelve thirty p.m.
- 21:25Eastern Time.
- 21:26That is nine thirty a.m.
- 21:29Pacific Time.
- 21:31And yeah,
- 21:33this one is only a twenty minute episode.
- 21:35This is the last episode of day one.
- 21:37And then it kind of shifts.
- 21:38We talked about that a
- 21:39little bit where we're
- 21:41Next week, we lose some access,
- 21:44but everybody starts to know who we are,
- 21:47and so the conversations become longer.
- 21:51So we have more content to
- 21:52sift through moving forward
- 21:55after this one.
- 21:56But I have a clip here I'm
- 21:59just going to show you.
- 22:00It's not a trailer.
- 22:01It's just I took the clip
- 22:04right out of this episode,
- 22:07and it's just so you can
- 22:08get a little taste.
- 22:09So here we go.
- 22:48So you just finished event three?
- 22:50The overhead squats and lunges?
- 22:51How'd that go for you?
- 22:53It was good.
- 22:54I think I was second in my heat.
- 22:56And I think I was faster
- 22:57than the first heat, so it was good.
- 22:58Is that in your wheelhouse?
- 23:02I mean, everything's in my wheelhouse,
- 23:04I guess, right?
- 23:05Like, I mean, it's hard for me to say,
- 23:07like, wheelhouse.
- 23:08Like, I'm just, like,
- 23:10I just got a lot of things I'm good at,
- 23:12you know, and I just, yeah.
- 23:14I mean,
- 23:14I don't really consider anything my
- 23:15wheelhouse this weekend.
- 23:17It's just,
- 23:18I think that I just don't want to have,
- 23:19like, those expectations, right?
- 23:21Because then if you're like, yes,
- 23:22this is my wheelhouse,
- 23:22I should do good at this, then it, like,
- 23:24puts a lot of pressure.
- 23:26So I'm just trying to been, like,
- 23:28everything's just, like, even keel, like,
- 23:31it is what it is.
- 23:39There we go.
- 23:43Jamie's main competition.
- 23:46Yeah.
- 23:47How does it feel when you
- 23:48hear your competition say
- 23:50stuff like everything's in
- 23:52our wheelhouse?
- 23:53How does that feel when you hear that?
- 23:54She is definitely confident.
- 23:58Good for her.
- 24:00I don't feel that way.
- 24:07You think maybe you should?
- 24:09I don't know.
- 24:11I guess you guys are such
- 24:12similar athletes.
- 24:12We are similar.
- 24:13I get a second of each other
- 24:15on everything.
- 24:16And I guess I can see what she's saying.
- 24:18Like in the, there was a,
- 24:19there was a decent amount
- 24:21of CrossFit and I think
- 24:25we're both good at CrossFit.
- 24:27Um, so yeah, you're both smaller.
- 24:32Yeah.
- 24:33I,
- 24:34I would not say that that was what was
- 24:37wheelhouse for me,
- 24:38like squatting my squat speed.
- 24:41I, I just have really long legs.
- 24:43Like I may be a shorter athlete,
- 24:45but I have, but I have no torso really.
- 24:47And I have very long legs.
- 24:49So I might as well be
- 24:50squatting next to somebody who's five,
- 24:51ten.
- 24:52Um, and my, and because of my back, I,
- 24:56like, especially if it gets heavier,
- 24:57I'm just slower at squatting.
- 24:59Um, I'm great at lunging.
- 25:01So like, it was like a weird,
- 25:02I needed more lunging in that workout.
- 25:07So Carolyn,
- 25:08as an athlete and you hear that
- 25:09and you know, Jamie,
- 25:11what are your thoughts?
- 25:13Jamie has some wheelhouse for sure.
- 25:14Like I think it was you in two,
- 25:16two events or top two and a couple,
- 25:19two or three.
- 25:20Yeah.
- 25:21Yeah.
- 25:21I think I had two, two seconds in a first.
- 25:24You have a lot of things
- 25:25that you're really good at.
- 25:26You just have one hole with the strength.
- 25:29Didn't you get two wins?
- 25:30Yeah, I think I got two wins.
- 25:33The run and the echo bike.
- 25:36No, Carleen won the echo bike.
- 25:39She finished and I was... Yeah,
- 25:41so I got second on that.
- 25:43Yeah,
- 25:43you guys were very similar because I
- 25:44remember even the strength,
- 25:45Carleen went down as well.
- 25:47And then you guys were close
- 25:48on a lot of the workouts.
- 25:50Yeah.
- 25:50Yeah.
- 25:51Yeah, we were very close.
- 25:53I think you might just be more, like,
- 25:55honest.
- 25:56Like, you're always very, like,
- 25:58you know your strengths and weaknesses.
- 26:00You know where you are
- 26:01within the field and how to
- 26:02stay within your own lane
- 26:04if something's not, you know,
- 26:05your strength.
- 26:05But then sometimes, I mean,
- 26:07you surprised us on some of
- 26:08the events that you were
- 26:09saying you weren't going to do as well,
- 26:11and then all of a sudden
- 26:12you're crushing it.
- 26:14So sometimes I think you
- 26:15sell yourself short.
- 26:16Yeah, that's probably.
- 26:21Possibly true.
- 26:24The reason I picked that
- 26:25clip is she caught me totally off guard.
- 26:27I was not expecting her to
- 26:28be that confident.
- 26:30Yeah.
- 26:30Like right after.
- 26:31And she was totally unabashed about that.
- 26:36And I thought it was awesome
- 26:37to get that raw kind of thing.
- 26:39And that's why this has been
- 26:41the most fun project I have
- 26:43ever worked on.
- 26:47And I can't wait to keep going.
- 26:50And I'm really excited to
- 26:51get to like episode five
- 26:53because I think that's
- 26:54where it's even going to
- 26:54pick up some more because
- 26:56people knew who we were
- 26:58more by Friday after we
- 27:01were around for two days.
- 27:03So yeah, super excited about that.
- 27:07But I do want to say Roderick Lopez,
- 27:10he's known as meme for time on Instagram,
- 27:12did a behind the scenes of
- 27:13the adaptive CrossFit games.
- 27:16It's really good.
- 27:20I watched episode one and if
- 27:24you want to know about the
- 27:27adaptive CrossFit games,
- 27:28I was educated so much.
- 27:31The athletes are so open
- 27:32about what they've been through,
- 27:35whether it's like through
- 27:36accident or through birth
- 27:38or through disease or through whatever.
- 27:41They're very open and honest
- 27:42to talk about why they're
- 27:44in this position and why
- 27:46CrossFit has kind of saved
- 27:47them and given them an opportunity.
- 27:50And he does a really good
- 27:51job with the athletes to be
- 27:53able to tell those stories.
- 27:56So if you have not checked it out,
- 27:58it's really, really good.
- 27:59That's awesome.
- 28:02And I'm glad that someone
- 28:03did it for the adaptive division as well.
- 28:06Cause they, like all these athletes,
- 28:08every athlete has should
- 28:09have the ability to tell their story.
- 28:15So, um, so yeah, super, super fun there.
- 28:20Um, and that's on Roderick's YouTube page.
- 28:23It's probably mean for time I'm guessing.
- 28:26Uh, but I found it pretty fast.
- 28:32So then we're going to talk about Roman.
- 28:35So Roman posted a story.
- 28:39I'm going to share that real quick.
- 28:44That Dallin clipped, Dallin Pepper.
- 28:49And here is what Roman
- 28:53posted on his story.
- 28:56There are rumors that if you
- 28:58gather all the strongest
- 28:59athletes from around the world,
- 29:01North America won't stand a chance.
- 29:08Dallin posted, Roman,
- 29:10running your mouth doesn't
- 29:11count as exercise.
- 29:13Hang in there.
- 29:13You might get another shot next year.
- 29:16Maybe you'll even take it.
- 29:20Yeah, that was my question.
- 29:21Was Roman hurt or just declined or what?
- 29:27I don't think we'll ever know,
- 29:29but I've heard that it's,
- 29:30it was through injury.
- 29:32He did have an injury at the games.
- 29:35So I know he was still recovering.
- 29:36It was a little bit too close.
- 29:37And then he wanted to focus on rogue.
- 29:42And Ricky, we know,
- 29:43was hurt as well at the games.
- 29:45Right.
- 29:46So that's two big hitters
- 29:47that they didn't have.
- 29:49But we were talking before
- 29:51we went on the air,
- 29:53like being healthy at the
- 29:54end of the season is part
- 29:55of the competition.
- 29:57Right.
- 29:58And you got to go with the
- 30:00people that you have.
- 30:02We talked about Patrick
- 30:03Mahomes running into his
- 30:04number one wide receiver,
- 30:06and now they're fearing ACL.
- 30:08Now he's got to play the
- 30:09rest of the year without
- 30:09his number one receiver.
- 30:11They're not giving up on the season.
- 30:12They're just going to keep going.
- 30:15If Roman and Ricky couldn't
- 30:17play because they were hurt,
- 30:20then the world has to go on without them.
- 30:25But I was really surprised
- 30:26at how much this blew up.
- 30:30Pat Vellner gets into it.
- 30:32Justin Medeiros throws the meme up.
- 30:35Dylan Lowen, Emily Rolfe,
- 30:38and she goes back and forth.
- 30:39There's nineteen replies to her post.
- 30:42I could I've known Emily for three years.
- 30:45I've never known her to be like this.
- 30:48Like she Danielle Brandon, Ariel Lowen,
- 30:52and it goes on and on and on.
- 30:54And it goes like I could not believe it.
- 30:56It's so good.
- 30:59I think the athletes have
- 31:00every right to jump in here
- 31:01and say whatever they want.
- 31:03Absolutely.
- 31:03What drives me crazy is the
- 31:05people that weren't playing
- 31:07or even considered for this
- 31:10jumping in and giving their opinion.
- 31:12Yeah.
- 31:15You haven't earned the right
- 31:16to jump in the sandbox.
- 31:21But I just,
- 31:23I think this is great for the sport.
- 31:26I think that water Palooza
- 31:28may have found a really cool event and it,
- 31:32and now there's next year,
- 31:35there's more people who want to see this,
- 31:37right?
- 31:39They do.
- 31:39There's definitely going to
- 31:40be a call for trying to get
- 31:45those top world athletes
- 31:46and actually see where they stack up.
- 31:49And how much did,
- 31:51how much did loud and live
- 31:51have to pay for that marketing?
- 31:54Right.
- 31:54Yeah.
- 31:56zero dollars any thoughts
- 32:02carolyn I like it it's just
- 32:04I couldn't tell like with
- 32:05some of the comments
- 32:06whether it's like there's a
- 32:07lot of sarc like not
- 32:08sarcasm but kind of um it's
- 32:12it's entertaining I like it
- 32:14I mean I think roman has a
- 32:16good point like not all
- 32:17their top athletes were
- 32:18there um like you could add
- 32:20gabby laura ricky roman jay
- 32:23crouch like there's a lot of them
- 32:24But like we talked about
- 32:25before coming on the air,
- 32:27there was Guy that had some
- 32:30specialist-type workouts for him.
- 32:32I mean,
- 32:35Tia dominated every event that she
- 32:36took part in.
- 32:36To get Roman and Ricky on,
- 32:39Guy probably doesn't make it.
- 32:41Right.
- 32:44Yeah.
- 32:44So you lose the heavy lift
- 32:46and you lose the gymnast.
- 32:48So what does that mean for the overall,
- 32:50you know, so it is going to be,
- 32:53it would be interesting to
- 32:53see how it all played out.
- 32:55Right.
- 32:56And,
- 32:57but then we talked to that Emma Lawson
- 33:00really should have been on
- 33:01the North America team and
- 33:05probably Emily would not.
- 33:08Yeah.
- 33:09And then,
- 33:09so then you lose your long distance.
- 33:11Yeah.
- 33:12Endurance person on North America and you,
- 33:14but you gain like a handstand phenom and.
- 33:19Great athlete.
- 33:22I think Emily is one of the
- 33:24most perfect athletes for
- 33:25an event like this.
- 33:26I don't think that's
- 33:27somebody you want to lose.
- 33:30Lawson would be too close, I think,
- 33:31to some of the other ones,
- 33:32like Raptus and Dingell and stuff.
- 33:35And Emily brings something
- 33:37different to the table in
- 33:38terms of the specialization that she has,
- 33:41especially in the running workouts.
- 33:43Mm-hmm.
- 33:47Yeah.
- 33:48Yeah.
- 33:48It's just, it's,
- 33:49it's interesting to think about.
- 33:51Um, but with all that,
- 33:54what are your thoughts about, um,
- 33:57using this?
- 34:00Do you think what they did
- 34:02with the tier cup could
- 34:04help the team division T E
- 34:08a M team division?
- 34:12Yeah, I mean,
- 34:13I do feel like you could
- 34:14maybe take some of these
- 34:16event ideas and make team
- 34:19events have these, like,
- 34:23pick your best female,
- 34:24pick your best male,
- 34:25and they're going to go on
- 34:26the floor and they're going
- 34:26to... I don't want to say that that would,
- 34:30like, encourage specialization,
- 34:32because I don't think we
- 34:33ever really want to
- 34:33necessarily see that and push for that.
- 34:37But I do think...
- 34:40I just think the races on
- 34:42the floor could be more fun
- 34:45and more interesting to watch.
- 34:49I like the format that you
- 34:54can have different people
- 34:55go in and have events.
- 34:56I think you should have no more.
- 34:58I think four people or four guys,
- 35:00four girls is a little bit too much.
- 35:01I like the three.
- 35:03And then I would say that
- 35:04you need a minimum amount
- 35:05of events that you have to take part in.
- 35:07So like,
- 35:08let's say you have to take part in four.
- 35:10So while you might have a
- 35:10specialist in there,
- 35:12there still needs to be,
- 35:13they got to be thrown out
- 35:14there a certain amount of
- 35:16times in the weekend.
- 35:17That part's just hard
- 35:18because if someone were to get injured,
- 35:20what do you do if they
- 35:21didn't meet that minimum
- 35:24work requirement?
- 35:26Yeah,
- 35:26I think we have to play around with
- 35:27the rules,
- 35:28but I still think that you should have,
- 35:30you should force people to
- 35:31play a certain amount of times.
- 35:34I think if,
- 35:37so many times we've seen a
- 35:38team show up and get
- 35:39injured and not be able to play.
- 35:42I think if you had a six
- 35:43person team and for any event,
- 35:46the max number on the floor was four,
- 35:49then you can avoid that.
- 35:51And if they get hurt,
- 35:51then you're just down one
- 35:53person and have to go the
- 35:55whole week with just the five or four.
- 35:59But,
- 36:00but then you have to make sure people
- 36:01aren't gaming it.
- 36:02Right.
- 36:04Because people would be like, ooh,
- 36:05I'm hurt.
- 36:05Ooh, I can't.
- 36:06I can't.
- 36:07Because they know their specialty is done.
- 36:10Yeah.
- 36:10Like, oh, I'm done my lift now.
- 36:12I'm hurt.
- 36:13Yeah.
- 36:15So, but I do think it would add something.
- 36:18And just because you would
- 36:18add some specialization,
- 36:20we shouldn't shy away from it.
- 36:23Add enough stuff that, like,
- 36:25they have to work as a team.
- 36:28You could add four more
- 36:29events that are classic
- 36:30CrossFit Games events, right?
- 36:32That all four have to work
- 36:33together or all six have to
- 36:35work together.
- 36:38And you can't hide anybody
- 36:39in those events.
- 36:43Right.
- 36:44And still add some of the
- 36:45specialization that will attract crowds.
- 36:51Yeah.
- 36:52Just my thoughts.
- 36:54I think we've stumbled onto
- 36:55something here that might be good.
- 36:58You can do substitutions in
- 37:00team events without it
- 37:01being grid with funky
- 37:05movements and utter craziness, right?
- 37:09Yeah.
- 37:09Yeah.
- 37:14grid's like in and out in
- 37:15the same workout.
- 37:16This is not like in the same workout.
- 37:18This is you,
- 37:18you do the workout and then
- 37:21you can switch out the next workout,
- 37:23which is different.
- 37:24Yeah.
- 37:27Could be a challenge for the
- 37:29sponsors for the kit.
- 37:31I mean, that team has already,
- 37:34I'm sure hard to fulfill
- 37:38all those challenges.
- 37:39because they like those team
- 37:40athletes are getting their
- 37:42own personal name on their
- 37:45jerseys I almost think
- 37:47you'd have to be like
- 37:48here's your team name kit
- 37:50and you guys gotta you guys
- 37:52gotta split it up well it
- 37:55if you if you finish
- 37:57semifinals with your six
- 37:58people that you're bringing
- 37:59you bring those six and
- 38:01then you can sub in and out the four
- 38:03I know,
- 38:04but now you're going from making
- 38:06clothing for four people
- 38:08amongst thirty teams to six people.
- 38:11Money's no object.
- 38:12Money's no object.
- 38:14We're bringing people to the stands now.
- 38:16It's going to be more exciting.
- 38:18Okay.
- 38:21Just thinking through my
- 38:22master's brain of how we've been treated.
- 38:24Yeah.
- 38:28Where it says teens instead of masters.
- 38:29Yeah.
- 38:33Okay.
- 38:34Um, before we get to the last subject, uh,
- 38:37I want to real quick, just share this.
- 38:39Um, I need to do a huge shout.
- 38:40I should have done it last week,
- 38:42but I'm going to do it this week.
- 38:44And our photographer, uh,
- 38:47from water Palooza, SoCal,
- 38:50and he's done some other events for us.
- 38:53Uh, he's my captures.
- 38:55Uh, you follow this guy.
- 38:56He's awesome.
- 38:58Um, how am I not following him?
- 39:02Okay.
- 39:05anyway so he is our
- 39:06photographer he's really
- 39:08become like our west coast
- 39:10um content guy um and he is
- 39:13so great to work with it's
- 39:15so phenomenal um and this
- 39:17is a picture of him a huge
- 39:19shout out to him he did the
- 39:21west semi-finals for us he
- 39:23did water palooza socal
- 39:25he's going to continue to
- 39:26do events for us it's been
- 39:28such a great relationship
- 39:30um and it's so cool uh
- 39:32getting to work with him
- 39:33but huge shout out
- 39:34everything we posted the
- 39:36thumbnail for tonight came
- 39:37from his pictures um he is
- 39:41the one that put the reels
- 39:42up for us um it's been
- 39:44awesome and awesome and the
- 39:48other piece of this was
- 39:50that um we gained two
- 39:53hundred followers from
- 39:54brazil because of his gi
- 39:55reels oh that's awesome
- 39:58on instagram so that was
- 39:59that was great love it so
- 40:04huge shout out to him so
- 40:08the last thing I have is
- 40:11what we're going to finish
- 40:11the night with and I'll
- 40:16admit coming up to this
- 40:17point this week I thought
- 40:22without question we would
- 40:23have a twenty twenty five crossfit games
- 40:27And after kind of reading
- 40:28through Instagram,
- 40:29I don't know how I started
- 40:30scrolling on this with
- 40:32different athletes and
- 40:33looking at different things.
- 40:37I'm not sure anymore.
- 40:40And so I wanted to pose it up to you guys.
- 40:45Do you think we will have a
- 40:47twenty twenty five CrossFit Games?
- 40:53I mean,
- 40:55I think if you're looking at it
- 40:56from the perspective of
- 40:57athletes saying they might
- 40:59sit out and whatnot,
- 41:01and that that's going to
- 41:02shut down the games, I would say no.
- 41:06Um,
- 41:07I think the sport is bigger than our ten,
- 41:10twenty well-known athletes.
- 41:13Um.
- 41:15Um, I think,
- 41:17I think it's going to depend on, you know,
- 41:20still stuff to come with
- 41:22the Lazar situation and, and where we,
- 41:25where that shakes out.
- 41:27Um, and from the, from HQ side,
- 41:30more than athlete side,
- 41:32there's always going to be
- 41:35another fit person that probably would do,
- 41:39um,
- 41:41Of course not as well as Tia.
- 41:43But quite honestly, if Tia were to sit out,
- 41:46great.
- 41:47We'll get a new set of names
- 41:49to watch and view.
- 41:52We've talked about it, Scott,
- 41:53and maybe we are in the minority,
- 41:56but I love watching the fourth heat.
- 41:58I love watching somebody
- 41:59that we don't really know
- 42:02win an event out of heat one.
- 42:04Um, and I would, I, you know what,
- 42:06like if you want to sit out the season,
- 42:08sit out the season,
- 42:09we're going to get some new
- 42:10names who are going to show
- 42:11us some things that we
- 42:13maybe didn't expect.
- 42:13And I I'd love to see new
- 42:16blood in the water.
- 42:21I just think it's going to look different.
- 42:23I don't know what it's going to look like,
- 42:24but I have a feeling that
- 42:26there's going to be a lot
- 42:26of changes once again.
- 42:29And if the company of
- 42:31CrossFit wants to focus
- 42:32more on the health and the affiliates,
- 42:34I think there's going to be
- 42:35slowly a separation from
- 42:37the sports side of things
- 42:41and for liability and stuff
- 42:43purposes maybe as well.
- 42:45But I just think it's going
- 42:45to look different.
- 42:47Not sure what that's going to be,
- 42:50but I think there's going
- 42:51to be some changes in the new year.
- 42:55I think there are athletes,
- 42:59like I've seen it said in
- 43:01comments and stuff,
- 43:02that they will not come
- 43:05back to the games unless
- 43:07there is significant change.
- 43:09And I was surprised at the
- 43:10athletes that said that.
- 43:13I was too.
- 43:13There was some that surprised me,
- 43:14but it is what it is.
- 43:17Make your stance and that's fine.
- 43:19I don't, I don't know that they're like,
- 43:22there's other comps that
- 43:24that will continue just fine.
- 43:25Right?
- 43:25Like a lot of clues is going
- 43:26to continue just fine and
- 43:27rogues going to continue just fine.
- 43:28And I'm sure there'll,
- 43:29those athletes will be
- 43:30willing to go to that.
- 43:32Um, and if they, if, like I said,
- 43:35if new blood comes in
- 43:36through the CrossFit space, um,
- 43:39through the open and whatnot, then, um,
- 43:43Maybe they've done
- 43:43themselves a disservice and
- 43:44somebody else catches fire.
- 43:48Here's my biggest fear.
- 43:49And I've got a list of
- 43:50things that like just thoughts, right?
- 43:53First biggest fear is the
- 43:55one thing the CrossFit
- 43:56Games were is that one
- 43:59championship of the year
- 44:01that was for the fittest on earth, right?
- 44:04And while we may complain
- 44:05that they're leaning heavier,
- 44:07they're leaning bigger, they're not rogue,
- 44:10thank God, right?
- 44:11Right.
- 44:12right so at least there was
- 44:15still a shot for like the
- 44:18fittest and people to
- 44:19compete like you and like
- 44:21christy and like carolyn
- 44:23and the people that could
- 44:25still play in the game I I
- 44:30think I do think it's going
- 44:31to happen I do think it's
- 44:32going to look different
- 44:35what that means I have no idea
- 44:39My other fear is that if
- 44:42something happens to the games,
- 44:44what happens to the adaptive, the masters,
- 44:47the teens, the teams, right?
- 44:51We're all focused on the
- 44:52elites and all that they're saying.
- 44:56Those people don't even have a voice.
- 45:01Now, I think adaptive,
- 45:02Wheel Watt has always been
- 45:03their championship,
- 45:05and I think they'll continue to move on.
- 45:08Maybe legend steps up,
- 45:10maybe the pit steps up and,
- 45:12and at least those two have
- 45:13a championship, but like,
- 45:18I'm worried about that.
- 45:20Yeah.
- 45:20I worry about that too.
- 45:21I mean,
- 45:21we like legends is going to have to
- 45:24step up.
- 45:26hugely to even give it, make it look,
- 45:29you're going to turn into
- 45:30like MFC and like people there,
- 45:33the top are not going to go
- 45:34to that for a pair of shoes.
- 45:37They just aren't like people
- 45:39are not going to those
- 45:40events unless you get a
- 45:41real cash purse prize.
- 45:42That makes sense.
- 45:45Right.
- 45:45And I think you lose all that.
- 45:48If you don't have an open
- 45:50that is supported by fifty
- 45:51percent Masters athletes and
- 45:55you don't have the the cash
- 45:57flow to do to do what you
- 46:01need to do right and so I I
- 46:06that is my fear that is my fear
- 46:08The other fear I have.
- 46:09If there's no open,
- 46:10then legends can do their
- 46:12own online qualifier.
- 46:14And now all the masters that
- 46:15would have done the open
- 46:16maybe signs up for legends
- 46:17or masters qualifier there.
- 46:20Sorry, my washer is going on.
- 46:22So I've been muting.
- 46:23So you guys don't hear the
- 46:24spin cycle right now.
- 46:28I that that's an option, but it's,
- 46:30it's not the same community
- 46:31event as the open that you have at your,
- 46:34I think the reason so many
- 46:35people sign up for the open
- 46:36is because gyms encourage it.
- 46:38It's a community event.
- 46:40Like that's,
- 46:42there's so many ties to
- 46:43different things that if the,
- 46:46if the main hub goes,
- 46:49do we lose all those little
- 46:51things around it?
- 46:53And I don't think we're
- 46:54going to lose the main hub.
- 46:55I just think it's going to look really,
- 46:56really different because,
- 46:58And I think athletes should
- 47:00have a say and they should
- 47:02have representation.
- 47:03I just wish the PFAA would
- 47:06tell us why more so that we
- 47:08understood what was behind this.
- 47:10Yeah.
- 47:11When I'm looking at these comments,
- 47:12people are really pissed off.
- 47:15And what I'm being told
- 47:17isn't really elevated to a
- 47:19level of being that pissed off.
- 47:21I'm missing.
- 47:22There's something missing from this.
- 47:23Yeah.
- 47:27that, and I just don't understand it.
- 47:30And I don't want the sport
- 47:32that I love and I follow
- 47:34and the methodology that saved my life to,
- 47:38to go away.
- 47:40And I'm always going to have
- 47:41a place to work out, right?
- 47:42Like I know that's not going away,
- 47:44but I love following this
- 47:46sport and I don't want it taken away.
- 47:49And I do want the athletes to have
- 47:53The reason I'm hard on them
- 47:54is I want them to do it in
- 47:55a way that makes sense and
- 47:58everybody has a voice.
- 48:01That's all.
- 48:02Because if you guys lose this,
- 48:06Masters athletes lose their thing.
- 48:09Adaptives lose their thing.
- 48:10There needs to be a voice from them too.
- 48:13Yeah.
- 48:20So...
- 48:22I don't know.
- 48:25I just think that there's
- 48:25still going to be other
- 48:26opportunities to compete.
- 48:30There's so many comps that
- 48:31don't have the CrossFit
- 48:33name and they've continued
- 48:35to be successful.
- 48:38But like you said,
- 48:39if you take away the CrossFit part,
- 48:40does it start slowly
- 48:42affecting those over the long run?
- 48:44Probably over the next few years,
- 48:46but immediately they'll be
- 48:48fine in the next year, but it'll be
- 48:51three, four years from now,
- 48:52what's going to be happening.
- 48:53And maybe someone will take
- 48:54over the sports side and
- 48:56it's going to be something
- 48:57completely different again.
- 48:59Maybe.
- 49:01I hope like that's, that's the thing.
- 49:05Like if you don't have an
- 49:07ultimate championship at the end,
- 49:09are people going to watch?
- 49:10Are people going to continue
- 49:12coming to Waterpalooza or coming?
- 49:14Does Waterpalooza become a local comp now?
- 49:18Like,
- 49:19And this is why like I
- 49:20always tell like the young
- 49:21athletes to like not, you know,
- 49:24go all in and cross it and
- 49:25not have any plan B and not, you know, um,
- 49:29not play any other sports.
- 49:30Like there's no scholarships
- 49:31in CrossFit there.
- 49:32The sport constantly changes.
- 49:34Um,
- 49:35you just don't have that stability
- 49:38within our sport.
- 49:39That's, um, that's in other sports.
- 49:42So, um, yeah, like keep your options open,
- 49:45keep, keep, uh,
- 49:47keep playing sports and being active.
- 49:49And the methodology is just
- 49:51always going to be there to me.
- 49:54it works yeah I don't
- 49:56disagree with that at all
- 49:58but I do think that yeah I
- 50:04think that because of the
- 50:07way the pfaa is formed the
- 50:09voices are from the top
- 50:10tier who have who have a
- 50:14very different view of what
- 50:17life is like than
- 50:21the eleventh-placed person
- 50:22at semifinals that just missed out,
- 50:25or the fifteenth person who
- 50:28is on their way up that
- 50:30might make it next year, right?
- 50:32And they have no voice as to
- 50:34the future when they
- 50:36probably are the future.
- 50:37I mean,
- 50:40have they considered bringing
- 50:42Masters voices on, or teens, or...
- 50:47I mean,
- 50:47I know that it sounds like they let
- 50:49Angelo in on the last meeting.
- 50:51So like maybe they're
- 50:52bringing some team athletes in,
- 50:53but maybe they should hear
- 50:56some opinions from some
- 50:57masters athletes or get them on this,
- 51:01have a few, few of them on the board.
- 51:06Yeah,
- 51:06because the money that's raised by
- 51:09that huge number of Masters
- 51:10athletes that pay in the Open,
- 51:13they pay quarterfinals,
- 51:14and they have way more
- 51:16semifinalists than you do.
- 51:18Right.
- 51:18And they're all paying that semifinal fee.
- 51:22That's a huge chunk of money
- 51:26that's paying for the sport.
- 51:29Yeah.
- 51:31And yet they have zero voice.
- 51:36There's something
- 51:37fundamentally wrong with that.
- 51:39And that's all I've been
- 51:40trying to say for months is
- 51:43that I want representation.
- 51:45I just want it to look the
- 51:46right way so that we can
- 51:49come to some resolution.
- 51:57Craig says,
- 51:57I'm really enjoying the Masters
- 51:58behind the scenes episodes.
- 52:00I'm glad because I'm really
- 52:01enjoying making them.
- 52:03I never,
- 52:04never thought I'd have this much fun.
- 52:06I usually hate editing, but I really,
- 52:09this is actually fun editing.
- 52:14Um, I don't even know what to, we,
- 52:20we have some wild Twitch comments.
- 52:23Um, YouTube listeners can't see.
- 52:28Um,
- 52:28killing me discount tom
- 52:29hardy so uh and I and
- 52:35because we're in a
- 52:36third-party software I
- 52:37can't even like block or
- 52:39stop right now um but thank
- 52:42goodness it's not going to
- 52:43our youtube channel it's
- 52:45just on twitch which I
- 52:47don't think we have a ton
- 52:48of listeners over there so anyway um
- 52:56I guess that's all.
- 52:58I just, I really, you know,
- 53:03Lex has said that like
- 53:05Bethany Flores has
- 53:06announced her next
- 53:08competition is High Rocks.
- 53:11Listening to that,
- 53:12my hope was she knows that
- 53:14Rogue doesn't fit her.
- 53:16And the only thing that's
- 53:17going to do is possibly hurt her back.
- 53:20So why not go do high rocks
- 53:22and maybe do something
- 53:23really great instead of
- 53:26blow your back out going to do rogue.
- 53:28And she's a great runner and
- 53:30she's great on the machines.
- 53:31Like high rocks can be great for her.
- 53:35Yeah.
- 53:38But she says throughout that interview,
- 53:39like I still love CrossFit.
- 53:42I love the methodology.
- 53:43I love the, you know, so,
- 53:48Hopefully it's just a temporary move over,
- 53:53but who knows?
- 53:54I mean,
- 53:54she might fall in love with high rocks.
- 53:58She may,
- 53:59it may be less wear and tear on her.
- 54:01You know,
- 54:02we talked to Dave Hardy all the time,
- 54:04right?
- 54:05Judge former games athlete, uh,
- 54:08in the masters division who
- 54:09his shoulders just got to a
- 54:11point where he couldn't
- 54:12take it anymore and CrossFit.
- 54:14So he went over to high
- 54:14rocks and he's killing it.
- 54:16Yeah.
- 54:19I don't want to age him.
- 54:21He's like, he's sixty plus.
- 54:23I don't know.
- 54:26But yeah.
- 54:28Amazing stuff.
- 54:34Okay.
- 54:36I guess that's the crash workouts are out.
- 54:39Have you guys taken?
- 54:42Yeah.
- 54:43And I forgot crash workouts.
- 54:46I'll pull that up.
- 54:50I know you didn't want dubs.
- 54:51Do you like that it's a drag rope?
- 54:53I like any type of dubs that
- 54:55are not regular because the
- 54:56gap between me and double
- 54:57unders when it's a regular is huge.
- 55:00The more different, the better.
- 55:03I figured.
- 55:04It's only forty,
- 55:05so that's also better for
- 55:06me because it's not like a
- 55:07set of over a hundred.
- 55:09I am pulling those up now.
- 55:14Carolyn will be doing these next week.
- 55:16uh is it next week all right
- 55:17two weeks two weeks from
- 55:18now two weeks from now two
- 55:19weeks from now this week
- 55:21this weekend I'm actually
- 55:22doing a high rocks all
- 55:26right not individual is
- 55:28this it yeah if you just go
- 55:34to the arrow you can just
- 55:36go right to the workout
- 55:36yeah all right there we go
- 55:41Event one, dumb standard.
- 55:44Three rounds for time,
- 55:45ten dumbbell clean and jerks,
- 55:46ten ring muscle-ups,
- 55:47ten dumbbell snatches.
- 55:49One hundred and seventy on the dumbbell.
- 55:53Rest exactly one minute between rounds.
- 55:55Score is cumulative time.
- 56:01Jamie,
- 56:01I'm going to go to you to analyze
- 56:02because Carolyn's doing them.
- 56:04What's your thought on this one?
- 56:07I don't know.
- 56:08A seven pound dumbbell is just disgusting.
- 56:15I think the dumbbell plays a
- 56:16bigger role to me than the ring muscle up,
- 56:18but maybe it's cause I'm
- 56:18good at ring muscle ups.
- 56:20Um,
- 56:21and someone who's like very proficient
- 56:22with the dumbbells, I think can, um,
- 56:28afford to break up the ring
- 56:29muscle ups and be very good still.
- 56:31Cause they can make up a lot
- 56:32of time just with their movement.
- 56:36Yeah, I mean, if you're somebody,
- 56:39if you're like a lighter
- 56:40gymnast who's good at ring muscle-ups,
- 56:43as good as you are,
- 56:44if that dumbbell is wrecking you,
- 56:47those ring muscle-ups
- 56:47aren't going to be perfect
- 56:48by round three.
- 56:49Like, you're not doing ten unbroken.
- 56:51That minute break comes up fast, too.
- 56:54Especially, like, in the third round.
- 56:57There's a minute break every round?
- 56:59Yes.
- 57:01So you finish the ten dumbbell snatch,
- 57:03then you get a minute rest, right?
- 57:06Oh, I don't know if I like that.
- 57:11It makes you push the pace more.
- 57:15Like you're not pushing the pace anyway.
- 57:17You're freaking racing with
- 57:18all the other athletes.
- 57:19Just make it three rounds per time.
- 57:20Also,
- 57:21I think it breaks up the two dumbbell
- 57:22snatch movements so you
- 57:23wouldn't have to do twenty on the spot.
- 57:25I think that that's also a
- 57:26good way to do it.
- 57:29Because then you'd be stuck
- 57:31continuing to just be on
- 57:31the dumbbell for so long.
- 57:33And your back would get fired up way more.
- 57:37So one of the things I
- 57:41always said about dumbbell
- 57:42clean and jerks is they
- 57:43become like a curl with a press.
- 57:46Yes.
- 57:47With this weight,
- 57:48does that prevent that from
- 57:50happening where it's going
- 57:51to have to be cleaned more?
- 57:56Like you basically like
- 57:57catch it in a power
- 57:58position and then jerk it.
- 58:00Right, but can you, like,
- 58:02seven-pound curls,
- 58:04your biceps hurting quick.
- 58:06Yeah.
- 58:07Right.
- 58:07Like, you need to get underneath it.
- 58:09Yeah, you're doing more of a high pull and,
- 58:11like, getting underneath.
- 58:12You're not really bringing
- 58:13it out away from you.
- 58:16Because I know, like,
- 58:17a fifty-pound dumbbell, like, honestly,
- 58:20like, in a gym workout,
- 58:21I'm just curling and pressing.
- 58:23Almost muscle.
- 58:25But seventy, no.
- 58:28Or, yeah.
- 58:29And, yeah, even for a dude.
- 58:31Me.
- 58:35So, okay.
- 58:39And then, is it this way?
- 58:44Other way.
- 58:44Other way.
- 58:48Go back.
- 58:49Event two.
- 58:51Click zero.
- 58:53Midline sadness.
- 58:55Six rounds for time.
- 58:57Twelve nines calorie skier.
- 58:59Twelve meter handstand walk.
- 59:01Twelve medicine ball GHD sit-ups.
- 59:05Twelve meter handstand walk.
- 59:07Handstand walks must be unbroken.
- 59:09That's like forty feet.
- 59:11That's like forty feet.
- 59:13So it's like eighty feet around.
- 59:16That's a lot.
- 59:18I don't practice med ball GHDs like ever.
- 59:21I find they pinch my lower back sometimes,
- 59:25but I tested this workout
- 59:27this week and I was sore in
- 59:28the abs for a few days, a few days,
- 59:32just because it's like a
- 59:33speed movement because it's
- 59:35only twelve on the spot,
- 59:36like you're moving that fast.
- 59:37And if it's a movement that
- 59:38you're not used to,
- 59:40it definitely gets you for sure.
- 59:45Yeah, I mean,
- 59:46it's like a handstand walk
- 59:48speed event for me.
- 59:52But I just feel like the
- 59:53really fast handstand
- 59:55walkers are going to win this.
- 1:00:00I mean,
- 1:00:01it's not enough calories on the ski
- 1:00:03to really make a difference.
- 1:00:05Twelve GHDs,
- 1:00:06you're not sitting around waiting there.
- 1:00:13I don't know, like by round six,
- 1:00:16I personally would struggle.
- 1:00:17I feel like on like the last
- 1:00:18handstand walk,
- 1:00:19I'd probably have to rest.
- 1:00:21Twenty seconds going into
- 1:00:22that to make sure it was unbroken.
- 1:00:26It's a good workout.
- 1:00:27I like it.
- 1:00:31Event three.
- 1:00:36Pilgatory.
- 1:00:36Pilgatory.
- 1:00:39So this is like a small
- 1:00:40little like worm looking sandbag.
- 1:00:44Sandbag.
- 1:00:45Yeah.
- 1:00:48I love this one.
- 1:00:48Fifty pill thrusters.
- 1:00:50Fifty chest of our pull-ups.
- 1:00:52Fifty meter pill lunge.
- 1:00:54Anyhow.
- 1:00:55Fifty chest of our pull-ups.
- 1:00:56Fifty pill thrusters.
- 1:00:59Will the pull-ups be on the
- 1:01:01trapeze or the.
- 1:01:02Yeah, the.
- 1:01:07I think this would be
- 1:01:07regular with the volume
- 1:01:09that would be there.
- 1:01:13I think it'll be regular.
- 1:01:14I think it'll be regular too.
- 1:01:17I love this workout.
- 1:01:18I like these longer,
- 1:01:19dense sets that JR programs.
- 1:01:24This will be a good one.
- 1:01:25Is the pill,
- 1:01:26it looks more like a tube and
- 1:01:28it has the straps?
- 1:01:30No straps.
- 1:01:30Just picture literally like a pill.
- 1:01:33Just like a cylinder type thingy.
- 1:01:38um it's just like a smoother
- 1:01:42personal worm like it's
- 1:01:45literally like you know
- 1:01:46because I have like a like
- 1:01:47a pill looking one but it
- 1:01:49has straps around it like
- 1:01:50yeah it'll be does yeah it
- 1:01:51won't be like that it'll be
- 1:01:54smooth all right I love it
- 1:02:00then we go to four then
- 1:02:03four and five are a combo
- 1:02:07Four is lineman's fright.
- 1:02:10Four rounds for time.
- 1:02:13Six deficit strict handstand pushups.
- 1:02:15Thirty meter sled drive.
- 1:02:19And that's what is like, like alignment.
- 1:02:22So you, it's like a, the flip slide,
- 1:02:25but you don't flip it.
- 1:02:26You keep it basically like
- 1:02:27shoulder level and you like, uh,
- 1:02:30push it down the turf as in
- 1:02:32those football drills when
- 1:02:33you have those dummies and
- 1:02:34you're just pushing them.
- 1:02:36So it's more of that type of sled.
- 1:02:40I haven't done depth.
- 1:02:42I haven't done depth.
- 1:02:43And yeah,
- 1:02:43you're holding probably like this,
- 1:02:44but your arms are still
- 1:02:45going to be tired from that.
- 1:02:47Yeah.
- 1:02:47I don't remember the last
- 1:02:48time I did a strict deficit
- 1:02:50that deep in a workout, like rogue.
- 1:02:55We,
- 1:02:55we would do maybe two inches on the
- 1:02:57parallettes.
- 1:02:58We did the one year at, um,
- 1:03:01The Invitational, maybe two years ago,
- 1:03:03it was the Parallel
- 1:03:04Handstand Push-Ups that were strict.
- 1:03:06We had about two inches.
- 1:03:09CrossFit Games, I think,
- 1:03:10had twenty-twenty.
- 1:03:13Online had two inches for the females.
- 1:03:16So this one's a little bit
- 1:03:18more with nine and five.
- 1:03:20What was the time camp on that?
- 1:03:22Eight minutes.
- 1:03:24I feel like there's going to
- 1:03:24be people stuck on those
- 1:03:25handstand push-ups by round three.
- 1:03:31But
- 1:03:32I can see people's... That
- 1:03:34is not the right video.
- 1:03:38No, keep going.
- 1:03:43Yeah, there you go.
- 1:03:45Okay.
- 1:03:45No, you're missing event five.
- 1:03:48MFN five, shoot.
- 1:03:50I was trying to find someone.
- 1:03:51Hannah Hardy jumped in and
- 1:03:52said that the pill picture
- 1:03:54is in the video.
- 1:03:55Yeah,
- 1:03:55the first slide of that of the pill
- 1:03:59one would have shown you it.
- 1:04:03But I'm going the wrong direction,
- 1:04:04I think.
- 1:04:05Yeah.
- 1:04:05Okay, there we go.
- 1:04:08There's five.
- 1:04:10That is the Cal Bikerg and
- 1:04:13Forty Drag Rope Double Unders.
- 1:04:15And like,
- 1:04:15eighteen cows versus the men's
- 1:04:17twenty is not the same thing.
- 1:04:18No.
- 1:04:19Like, at that point, like,
- 1:04:20why not just make it, like,
- 1:04:22that doesn't do anything.
- 1:04:23Like,
- 1:04:25the men's power output on the bike is,
- 1:04:28like, twenty would be, like,
- 1:04:29fifteen for the females.
- 1:04:31Agreed.
- 1:04:33I don't know what two cows does there.
- 1:04:34It's nothing.
- 1:04:36I was curious on this one as well.
- 1:04:37I didn't,
- 1:04:38I don't understand why it wasn't
- 1:04:40at least sixteen.
- 1:04:41Yes,
- 1:04:41twenty-sixteen or twenty-fifteen even.
- 1:04:43Right.
- 1:04:43Um...
- 1:04:45Yeah, I mean,
- 1:04:46because their shoulders are
- 1:04:48just stronger anyway.
- 1:04:50So coming off of that handstand push-up,
- 1:04:54I think they're going to
- 1:04:57fare better with this drag
- 1:04:58rope double under.
- 1:05:02This one's going to be a
- 1:05:03power output person that
- 1:05:05has good bike to me.
- 1:05:07Yeah,
- 1:05:07these are going to be two opposite
- 1:05:08people.
- 1:05:09Yeah.
- 1:05:11So it's an eight-minute cap
- 1:05:12on the other one.
- 1:05:12You get a two-minute rest
- 1:05:14and then... Another eight minutes.
- 1:05:16Another eight minute workout.
- 1:05:18So potentially if you're
- 1:05:19great at the other one,
- 1:05:20you get more rest.
- 1:05:22Yeah, that's true too.
- 1:05:25But I don't,
- 1:05:25I don't know how many people
- 1:05:26are going to finish that one.
- 1:05:27All right.
- 1:05:28I'm going back to see the pill.
- 1:05:29Okay.
- 1:05:31Um, cause Hannah said it's in the,
- 1:05:35is this right?
- 1:05:37Yeah, it is.
- 1:05:38That's the right one.
- 1:05:39That's the right one.
- 1:05:40Okay.
- 1:05:40It's linesman.
- 1:05:46Well, if you're doing the pill,
- 1:05:47you need to go back to the thruster,
- 1:05:49the pillatory.
- 1:05:51Okay.
- 1:05:52Not lineman's fright.
- 1:05:53That was handstand pushup sled.
- 1:05:54I thought I wanted to see the sled.
- 1:05:56You want to see the pill?
- 1:05:56Sorry.
- 1:05:57Yeah.
- 1:06:07There it is.
- 1:06:08Okay.
- 1:06:10Ooh, that's smooth.
- 1:06:11Mm-hmm.
- 1:06:14Could get slick.
- 1:06:15I mean, if it's super hot there.
- 1:06:17Yeah.
- 1:06:20Okay.
- 1:06:20Now we know what the pill is.
- 1:06:21Now let's see what the sled is real quick.
- 1:06:36Cross fat.
- 1:06:37Yeah.
- 1:06:37We already talked about the Roman thing.
- 1:06:40So you have to go back and
- 1:06:40watch that after you hit
- 1:06:42like and subscribe.
- 1:06:46Those are some excellent
- 1:06:47strict deficit handstand pushups.
- 1:06:50So that is a flip.
- 1:06:51No, it is a flip.
- 1:06:52Oh, so you got to lift it and push it.
- 1:06:54Yeah.
- 1:06:56Yeah.
- 1:06:57Like this.
- 1:06:58So like,
- 1:06:58you're not relaxing your like
- 1:07:00shoulders really.
- 1:07:01Even your biceps.
- 1:07:03Yeah.
- 1:07:04And I don't know.
- 1:07:05I've never,
- 1:07:05I haven't flipped that sled
- 1:07:07since water Palooza.
- 1:07:09I think it's the same one
- 1:07:10that we did at water
- 1:07:10Palooza a few years ago.
- 1:07:12So I don't know what it,
- 1:07:13what's the weight of it empty.
- 1:07:14I think I actually like that better.
- 1:07:17Then hunch him down over for me.
- 1:07:20But I'm five eleven.
- 1:07:22I don't remember what it is empty.
- 1:07:23I mean,
- 1:07:24because we used it last year at
- 1:07:26crash and.
- 1:07:28I had looked like looked it up,
- 1:07:29so I knew that the base weight is,
- 1:07:30but three.
- 1:07:33I don't know, like one hundred.
- 1:07:41All right, this one went,
- 1:07:42this is a new one.
- 1:07:44Uh, this is mad moon event, six,
- 1:07:46five rounds for time,
- 1:07:47six hundred meter run,
- 1:07:48fifteen burpee getovers, uh, a yoke.
- 1:07:54Yeah.
- 1:07:54So the yoke is placed at
- 1:07:55that height and you're just,
- 1:07:57you can put your hands on
- 1:07:57the yoke and just like
- 1:07:59burpee getovers basically.
- 1:08:03Taylor did them and kill Taylor.
- 1:08:06Okay.
- 1:08:07Uh, and then, uh, five, seven, nine,
- 1:08:09eleven, thirteen deadlifts.
- 1:08:11Put the weights higher.
- 1:08:15Three sixty five to forty five.
- 1:08:18Three sixty five is much
- 1:08:19heavier for the guys in two
- 1:08:20forty five to me.
- 1:08:24Two forty five is two forty five.
- 1:08:28That's sixty seven percent for deadlifts.
- 1:08:30That's way too much.
- 1:08:31Like that's really light for
- 1:08:32the females compared to the males.
- 1:08:34That should have been heavier to me.
- 1:08:39Well, you just, that's your wheelhouse.
- 1:08:43I wouldn't have wanted it any heavier.
- 1:08:45But, sixty-seven percent,
- 1:08:47we don't go to sixty-seven very often.
- 1:08:50Sometimes it's appropriate.
- 1:08:52Maybe not in a deadlift,
- 1:08:53I don't necessarily disagree, but.
- 1:08:56I was picturing the yoke higher.
- 1:09:00But that's not bad.
- 1:09:01Thirty, what,
- 1:09:01it was thirty-four inches or something?
- 1:09:03Yeah.
- 1:09:03Yeah.
- 1:09:08Better than forty inch
- 1:09:09burpee back jump overs or
- 1:09:10forty eight inches or whatever I did.
- 1:09:14This is event seven thick
- 1:09:16and thin for time six and
- 1:09:19four legless rope climbs
- 1:09:20twelve overhead squats six
- 1:09:22and four thick rope climbs
- 1:09:25two inch and then twelve
- 1:09:27axle bar overhead squats.
- 1:09:36Eight minute time cap.
- 1:09:39I hate axle bars.
- 1:09:40I haven't tried this one yet,
- 1:09:42but I don't know.
- 1:09:46I haven't tried the last three.
- 1:09:48The heavier overhead squats
- 1:09:50are with the shorty bar and
- 1:09:52the lighter overhead squats
- 1:09:53are with the axle bar.
- 1:09:58Legless on the regular rope.
- 1:10:02Regular rope climbs on the thicker rope.
- 1:10:05Yep.
- 1:10:06One point five is regular rope.
- 1:10:09Yeah.
- 1:10:15This will be a good workout.
- 1:10:19How do you feel about that, Carolyn?
- 1:10:22Uh, for me,
- 1:10:22it's a legless workout or legless work,
- 1:10:24um, world climb workout.
- 1:10:26Yeah.
- 1:10:27It's a time it takes between the legless.
- 1:10:29Like that's a big difference.
- 1:10:30Like do you have huge
- 1:10:31separation there in the females?
- 1:10:32You will huge separation there.
- 1:10:35Like the guys can do, um, larger sets,
- 1:10:38like on the spot, uh,
- 1:10:41I think most of the females
- 1:10:42are fine with the rest of the workout.
- 1:10:44It's,
- 1:10:45it could have been four legless rope
- 1:10:46climbs almost for time with
- 1:10:47twelve overhead squats and
- 1:10:49you would get the winner almost, I think.
- 1:10:51Yeah.
- 1:10:52Unless I haven't tried the axle over.
- 1:10:54I mean, it would be probably awkward to.
- 1:10:57Cross fat ass.
- 1:10:58Does axle matter besides
- 1:11:00getting it overhead to start?
- 1:11:02Yeah, I think it'll tax their grip.
- 1:11:04Well, it doesn't matter at that point,
- 1:11:05but their grip will be taxed.
- 1:11:07So it's going to be awkward holding that.
- 1:11:12If you can get a good shelf,
- 1:11:14it can just kind of rest there.
- 1:11:16If you can get a good shelf.
- 1:11:19But to me, it is getting it up there.
- 1:11:21Getting it up there is going
- 1:11:22to tax your grip in
- 1:11:25addition to all those rope climbs.
- 1:11:26I don't know.
- 1:11:27It's a good workout.
- 1:11:36What's the time cap on that?
- 1:11:38Eight?
- 1:11:38Yeah.
- 1:11:43It could be quick.
- 1:11:44I don't know.
- 1:11:54Is that the last workout?
- 1:11:56Yeah, that's the last one.
- 1:11:57The seventh one.
- 1:12:00It's a nice little finale.
- 1:12:02Is it like two, three, two?
- 1:12:04Do you know the... I'm going
- 1:12:06to assume... Three, two, two?
- 1:12:08Two, three, two?
- 1:12:10I'm going to assume that.
- 1:12:11But I'm not sure.
- 1:12:14I haven't looked at the,
- 1:12:15I don't think we got a schedule yet.
- 1:12:17Well, that's a fun finale one.
- 1:12:19Cause if you blow up on the
- 1:12:21legless and let's say you
- 1:12:22miss your fourth rep, there can be your,
- 1:12:25like your finale,
- 1:12:28like your podium or big changes in the,
- 1:12:31in the leaderboard,
- 1:12:31you could do all the way up
- 1:12:32and you'd have a huge hole
- 1:12:34with legless or something.
- 1:12:35Yep.
- 1:12:35So, um,
- 1:12:37He definitely makes sure
- 1:12:38that you have to have your
- 1:12:40strict deficit handstand pushups.
- 1:12:42You have to have your leg lifts on.
- 1:12:45It's not a big amount,
- 1:12:48but just having the four on
- 1:12:49the spot is a huge separator.
- 1:12:52You have your ring muscle-ups.
- 1:12:54So you do have some good
- 1:12:55pieces of gymnastics that
- 1:12:57you have to be proficient with.
- 1:12:58You still got to be able to
- 1:12:59move the heavy dumbbell deadlift.
- 1:13:05no max lift, but I prefer that.
- 1:13:09Yeah.
- 1:13:10Especially in, in, in a,
- 1:13:11in a weekend with like
- 1:13:12seven events versus if you have like,
- 1:13:14you know, eight to nine,
- 1:13:16I'd say around like eight to nine,
- 1:13:17you can start having a max lift,
- 1:13:20but seven still not quite
- 1:13:21enough that I think it
- 1:13:22skews a little bit.
- 1:13:24So I think it's great programming.
- 1:13:26It's balanced.
- 1:13:26It's got some cool stuff.
- 1:13:28I'm looking forward to it.
- 1:13:30There's a lot of great
- 1:13:31athletes going there.
- 1:13:32So.
- 1:13:34I like it better than last
- 1:13:35year's programming.
- 1:13:37Yeah, it should be good.
- 1:13:40Yeah,
- 1:13:40they've filled up the men a little bit.
- 1:13:45I guess I can share that real quick.
- 1:13:46We shared the women, I think, last week.
- 1:13:52so uh we have taylor self
- 1:13:55announced sam stewart
- 1:13:57justin rhodes matthias
- 1:13:59porter jacob marlow uh
- 1:14:02drake lewis tristan
- 1:14:03harrison uh nick matthew
- 1:14:07colton mertens and chris
- 1:14:09ibarra nice yeah there's a
- 1:14:12good good group of men good
- 1:14:13group of women um the
- 1:14:17compass you know people are
- 1:14:18wanting to compete there yeah
- 1:14:22Chris, that bar is a nice surprise.
- 1:14:25Well, training partner is also there.
- 1:14:28Oh, my gosh.
- 1:14:31Olivia, course setter.
- 1:14:32Oh, okay.
- 1:14:38I think we went through all the women.
- 1:14:41This I don't know.
- 1:14:42I have no clue.
- 1:14:44Because that P score or Z
- 1:14:46score or whatever.
- 1:14:48It was P. P score.
- 1:14:49Yeah.
- 1:14:51I think they are doing a
- 1:14:52different scoring system.
- 1:14:56I heard, um, Pedro Tyler, Tyler,
- 1:15:04Tyler talking about it on a
- 1:15:06barbell spin that he had
- 1:15:10doing P score again, or he's changed.
- 1:15:13He did not say what they were doing,
- 1:15:15but that he was like
- 1:15:16responsible for scoring.
- 1:15:20So that means you're doing one of these,
- 1:15:22right?
- 1:15:23Yeah, Z or P for sure,
- 1:15:25unless they came up with a
- 1:15:26new scoring system that we
- 1:15:27don't know about.
- 1:15:30I did not like Z score.
- 1:15:34I didn't like P score.
- 1:15:38I don't even know which one I like better.
- 1:15:40Having negative points makes
- 1:15:42no sense to me.
- 1:15:43That was P score.
- 1:15:45That was Z. That was last year.
- 1:15:47No, we did P last year.
- 1:15:52I'm confused.
- 1:15:54We did,
- 1:15:54we did P scoring last year and
- 1:15:56there was the zero points
- 1:15:57for a lot of people.
- 1:15:59It did not make sense.
- 1:16:00Last year was, I did not care.
- 1:16:01It was P scoring and it
- 1:16:03didn't matter if you were,
- 1:16:04if you're in like the
- 1:16:04bottom four of an event,
- 1:16:06you may have beat somebody
- 1:16:07by twenty reps and you
- 1:16:07still got zero points.
- 1:16:08Same as them.
- 1:16:09Like you didn't get rewarded
- 1:16:11for your work that you did.
- 1:16:12Yeah.
- 1:16:13It was P score.
- 1:16:14It was ugly.
- 1:16:15I didn't like it.
- 1:16:15Yeah.
- 1:16:18And especially in the
- 1:16:19master's division where
- 1:16:20there was only like eight athletes.
- 1:16:22You needed the scoring.
- 1:16:25Right.
- 1:16:26You needed like forty people
- 1:16:27or thirty people to spread
- 1:16:29it out enough where it made sense.
- 1:16:31They should have just put us
- 1:16:32in the main scoreboard so
- 1:16:33that it made sense and then
- 1:16:35pulled us out.
- 1:16:37Like with our points afterwards.
- 1:16:41CrossFit says Pez scoring.
- 1:16:43Which I was still waiting for that.
- 1:16:44Tyler had said he was going
- 1:16:45to put together the whole scoreboard,
- 1:16:46put the Masters in there,
- 1:16:47and I never got that.
- 1:16:54But, I mean,
- 1:16:55it's a place to experiment if
- 1:16:57you're going to do it.
- 1:16:58And as long as the athletes
- 1:16:59know going in that this is the scoring.
- 1:17:03Sounds like they don't know.
- 1:17:06Well, it wasn't an email that we got.
- 1:17:07Like,
- 1:17:07we received an email detailing the
- 1:17:10flow of the events and the
- 1:17:12standards and stuff like
- 1:17:13that that JR sent out.
- 1:17:16I don't recall anything on the scoring,
- 1:17:18though.
- 1:17:24Okay.
- 1:17:25You're getting quite the fans tonight.
- 1:17:26Yeah.
- 1:17:32Something did spark me.
- 1:17:32She's a married woman.
- 1:17:36Thanks, Carolyn.
- 1:17:38So on a different subject altogether,
- 1:17:42I ended up watching the
- 1:17:43Hiller video about the
- 1:17:45woman who admitted she used
- 1:17:47performance-enhancing drugs.
- 1:17:49Oh, yes.
- 1:17:50And him going through that and like...
- 1:17:54I know so little about
- 1:17:55performance enhancing drugs
- 1:17:56compared to what these people know.
- 1:17:59It was really fascinating to me,
- 1:18:02this story of her and how
- 1:18:05it stays in a woman's
- 1:18:06system much longer than it
- 1:18:07does a man's because they
- 1:18:09don't need the testosterone.
- 1:18:11So it was just fascinating.
- 1:18:14But Hiller's always said
- 1:18:15there's kind of like two
- 1:18:16key signs if someone's using or not.
- 1:18:20And that is the rounded
- 1:18:21shoulder and the immediate up to the trap,
- 1:18:25like in the elevated trap.
- 1:18:27That is a key sign.
- 1:18:31Can I tell you at MFC, I'm going, yep.
- 1:18:34Nope.
- 1:18:35Nope.
- 1:18:36Yep.
- 1:18:37Nope.
- 1:18:38Just with that like little trigger thing.
- 1:18:42I think it's hard to tell.
- 1:18:43Cause a lot of people,
- 1:18:44you can't even tell.
- 1:18:46It depends what they're,
- 1:18:47what they would be taking though.
- 1:18:51I was just using the thick, the key.
- 1:18:53He said,
- 1:18:53that's like his first cue that he
- 1:18:55looks for.
- 1:18:56And I'm not saying I'm right or wrong,
- 1:18:57but I'm saying just using that cue,
- 1:18:59like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:18:59like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:00like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:02like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:03like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:04like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:06like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:07like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:08like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:09like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:10like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:11like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:12like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:13like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:14like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:14like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:15like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:16like I would say, like I would say,
- 1:19:23But again, MFC,
- 1:19:25there were very few games athletes.
- 1:19:27These are people just kind
- 1:19:30of getting their feet wet
- 1:19:31and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:19:35So anyway.
- 1:19:38It was a good podcast.
- 1:19:41Yeah, he did a good video on that.
- 1:19:45I just learned a lot.
- 1:19:48And a lot of it was,
- 1:19:49so it was both her and him
- 1:19:51talking about it and her
- 1:19:52being very open and about
- 1:19:54how it affected her body,
- 1:19:56how it stayed in her body.
- 1:19:59That's been my biggest
- 1:20:01complaint with this whole thing.
- 1:20:01Like the,
- 1:20:02some of those people that you know,
- 1:20:05came from like power
- 1:20:07lifting or bodybuilding.
- 1:20:10Like she came from bodybuilding.
- 1:20:11Right.
- 1:20:12And you, you just can tell,
- 1:20:14know that they were on it.
- 1:20:15Like,
- 1:20:16That's been my complaint with this sport.
- 1:20:18And like,
- 1:20:19especially the women when they
- 1:20:21continue on and cross when they're like,
- 1:20:22well, I'm clean now.
- 1:20:24Like,
- 1:20:24I feel like that's where we're at
- 1:20:26with Pinero at this point.
- 1:20:27Like,
- 1:20:27I wish she would just admit that she
- 1:20:28took things for years.
- 1:20:30Sure.
- 1:20:30You've passed multiple job
- 1:20:32tests the last few years.
- 1:20:33You might be clean now,
- 1:20:34but your ceiling for lifts
- 1:20:38went way above what like
- 1:20:40I'll ever be able to compete with.
- 1:20:42And that is unfair to me.
- 1:20:49Oh, Tom Hardy, having a night tonight.
- 1:20:57So yeah, just,
- 1:20:58it was just an observation I
- 1:21:00had after watching that
- 1:21:01sitting in a competition.
- 1:21:03And we've said like,
- 1:21:05if it's going to be rampant,
- 1:21:06it's going to be rampant in
- 1:21:07the masters because
- 1:21:09especially on the men's
- 1:21:10side with just testosterone
- 1:21:13and people having low T and,
- 1:21:15and it being allowed to a certain level,
- 1:21:18even in testing,
- 1:21:19like all that kind of stuff.
- 1:21:21And so I was just,
- 1:21:22I was just kind of making
- 1:21:23an observation that,
- 1:21:25But I actually thought it would be higher.
- 1:21:28And again,
- 1:21:30this was just one sign that I
- 1:21:32picked up from what Hiller
- 1:21:33said and did it.
- 1:21:35And it was about twenty percent.
- 1:21:36I thought it would be a little bit higher.
- 1:21:41So anyway.
- 1:21:49Yeah.
- 1:21:50That's all I have to say about that,
- 1:21:51I guess.
- 1:21:53I pulled up discount Tom Hardy.
- 1:21:55You did not.
- 1:21:56I did.
- 1:21:56I went to go look at it.
- 1:21:57I was curious.
- 1:21:58I was curious, Tom.
- 1:21:59Roast him.
- 1:22:00He wants to be roasted.
- 1:22:04Flexing.
- 1:22:07Okay.
- 1:22:09Nice muscles, Tom.
- 1:22:10Nice muscles.
- 1:22:12That's not roasting.
- 1:22:15So, uh,
- 1:22:16there's a good football game on tonight.
- 1:22:18Bills and Ravens.
- 1:22:22So I think I'm going to go
- 1:22:23watch that as I go to bed.
- 1:22:25All right.
- 1:22:29Anything else you guys have to say?
- 1:22:31It's kind of been a slow
- 1:22:31week other than the smack
- 1:22:35talk from Roman and everybody else.
- 1:22:39I did talk to Emily about having her on.
- 1:22:42She said she would come on.
- 1:22:43I think she's still
- 1:22:44vacationing a little bit.
- 1:22:47But one,
- 1:22:49I've never seen her talk smack
- 1:22:51like that in my life.
- 1:22:52And it was, I really enjoyed reading it.
- 1:22:56And then like on the seventeenth one,
- 1:22:57Kyle jumps in.
- 1:23:01So that was fun.
- 1:23:03But I want to talk to her just because,
- 1:23:06you know,
- 1:23:06winning third at the games this
- 1:23:07year and what does that mean?
- 1:23:08And,
- 1:23:09and then the tier cup and she's had a
- 1:23:13pretty eventful off season
- 1:23:15and where she at going into next season.
- 1:23:19Cause she's yeah.
- 1:23:23I'm anxious to see like what
- 1:23:25the difference is with the
- 1:23:26older athletes and the younger athletes.
- 1:23:29Yeah.
- 1:23:30too um so I'd like to get
- 1:23:36some take on that and I
- 1:23:37haven't really been doing a
- 1:23:38lot of interviews lately so
- 1:23:40I think it's time to kind
- 1:23:41of ramp those back up as
- 1:23:42things slow down and rogue
- 1:23:43comes we'll have an excuse
- 1:23:45to pull some people in for
- 1:23:46that and uh and tear cup we
- 1:23:49can talk to some people
- 1:23:50about that but with that
- 1:23:53don't forget to like and
- 1:23:54subscribe we love our
- 1:23:56audience even those twitchers who are uh
- 1:24:01Whatever they're doing.
- 1:24:03Trying to distract us from
- 1:24:04our discussions.
- 1:24:05Trolling.
- 1:24:12Last thing.
- 1:24:13CrossFit said there's...
- 1:24:20There's some prominent
- 1:24:21Games females who've
- 1:24:22certainly dabbled in past lives.
- 1:24:26Again, I don't know nothing about nothing.
- 1:24:30I just was using one of his
- 1:24:32tips to see kind of what I thought.
- 1:24:35And I would never name names
- 1:24:36because I am not
- 1:24:38knowledgeable enough to do that.
- 1:24:39Yeah.
- 1:24:42With that being said,
- 1:24:44we will see everybody next
- 1:24:46week on Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 1:24:49All right.
- 1:24:50Bye, guys.
- 1:24:51Bye.