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NFL Week 17 Best Bets with Bob Scucci of Boyd Gaming · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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Speaker 1: the common man. But of course it's Thursday. I got
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Speaker 1: professional better signment Hunter, how are you, buddy? It was
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Speaker 1: definitely weird waking up to no football to that. It
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Speaker 1: that it's playoff time, it's the end of the year.
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Speaker 1: It's there's no more Thursday games, terrible football. It's just
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Speaker 1: all Saturdays, Saturday and Sundays. Just for the rest of
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Speaker 1: the year. Yeah. Look, I've been um sort of saying
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Speaker 1: that this season feels a little bit interminable. But I
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Speaker 1: am wistful already, like I thought back to September, October, November,
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Speaker 1: like being through these four months, which as a sports
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Speaker 1: fan are incredible for the podcast, it's incredible. In our business,
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Speaker 1: it's amazing, like all those things. A is the longest
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Speaker 1: time in the world, and it goes by like that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's like you just said, I at this
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Speaker 1: time of year, I go through a lot of my
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Speaker 1: old notes. I'd like to see where I was writing
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Speaker 1: down what I was thinking early in the year. My
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Speaker 1: favorite thing I found was we took the lines week one. Um,
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Speaker 1: I think I got a ship number, like I gave
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Speaker 1: out seven and a half, and then we took it
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Speaker 1: again at eight and a half and it covered eight.
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Speaker 1: Literally in my quote right blow was this team is
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Speaker 1: fucking terrible, but you have to bet them they know
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Speaker 1: how to cover Hello Detroit. And I looked at my notes.
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Speaker 1: Sadly I didn't take them all year. I think I'm
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Speaker 1: nine and seven with line games. This year still made
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Speaker 1: a profit, but man, that's the next year on me
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Speaker 1: on that again, like there's be some terrible team that
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Speaker 1: we just need to be on. You know, Denver was three,
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Speaker 1: No Carolina is three, and oh neither of them are
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Speaker 1: making the playoffs. It's just hilarious and you look back
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Speaker 1: on those kind of things, it's just like, what the
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Speaker 1: hell is even going on. It is the last show
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Speaker 1: of one and we are appreciative and thankful to everybody
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Speaker 1: who's been listening to us all year, all football season,
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Speaker 1: It is Thursday. We'll get to some sharp calls, will
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Speaker 1: narrow down how numbers have moved based on the games
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Speaker 1: we liked. On Tuesday, we'll do our money line parlay,
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Speaker 1: we like on Tuesday, we ask you to bet those lines.
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Speaker 1: we make the decisions on Sunday, a lot of time
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Speaker 1: we are making decisions based on the closing line value
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Speaker 1: up to the second information for picks. Let's get to
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Speaker 1: some sharp calls. Hello, who's there? I'm talking telephone right?
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Speaker 1: Somebody said, maybe love to do? Who called you this week?
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Speaker 1: What are they say? And I felt like we locked
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Speaker 1: in very specifically on some games, and there's probably a
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Speaker 1: couple of couple of games that people are against us.
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Speaker 1: So I got a call from a big time group
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Speaker 1: that I talked to nothing. It might have been mid season.
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Speaker 1: This guy was Billy Walter's right hand man, you know,
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Speaker 1: his own little professional group that he runs. That they're
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Speaker 1: very selective. They might hit six seven totals or against
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Speaker 1: the spread matchups per year in the NFL. The last
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Speaker 1: time he called me, he was on I believe it
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Speaker 1: was the Vikings versus Baltimore Ravens. He called me. I
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Speaker 1: think he said the line was seven or six and
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Speaker 1: a half. Ravens end up being up that big in
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Speaker 1: that game. Ravens came back and went to overtime. You know,
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Speaker 1: the six was gonna cover no matter what. So whenever
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Speaker 1: someone like that calls me up, I listen. It's tough
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Speaker 1: to hear that he's on the complete opposite side of
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Speaker 1: what I like. He looks a Giants. This is to them,
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Speaker 1: this is one of their bigger bets this week. I
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Speaker 1: can't do it. Like when he said it to me,
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to laugh and be disrespectful because it
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Speaker 1: was when when someone like that calls you, you just
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Speaker 1: don't even speak. I just listened, but I was like muffling,
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Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Like I wanted to hear his
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Speaker 1: rationale on it, because I just I feel like, with
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Speaker 1: the quarterback play we've seen of the Giants, I told
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Speaker 1: you last last show, they're my lowest creative team right now,
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Speaker 1: and like they're lower than the Jaguars, They're lower than
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Speaker 1: a Liance, They're lower than the Jets, they're lower than
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Speaker 1: the Bears. His whole rationale was, this line should be
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Speaker 1: three and a half, it's seven. I have to take
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Speaker 1: the seven, had to take the six and a half.
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Speaker 1: I think it's down to five and a half five
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Speaker 1: at certain books. NOE. This line is moving aggressively in
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Speaker 1: the Giant direction right now, and I get it like
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Speaker 1: a group like him betting forty k it has more
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Speaker 1: weight than the public bet in a million dollars on
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Speaker 1: the other side. I mean, that's how much bookmakers respect
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Speaker 1: these kind of this kind of money. So I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: stick to my guns. Maybe I just won't bet as
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Speaker 1: much on the Bears. But if it's Nick Foles and
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Speaker 1: it's this Bears team, I love this matchup for this
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Speaker 1: team at home, I'm gonna stick with it. But I
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Speaker 1: just want people to have caution knowing that you're going
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Speaker 1: again to a professional who's bet in the NFL for
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Speaker 1: the thirty five years and he's worked with arguably the
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Speaker 1: best betting pro ever at this so that that's definitely
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Speaker 1: what I want to put out there right away. For
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Speaker 1: me being on the other side of it, it's terrifying,
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Speaker 1: like this might have been a ten kift k bet
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Speaker 1: kind of for me this week of the Bears. I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to bove five k. I'll leave out there
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Speaker 1: would already have and I'm maybe I'll keep taking this
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Speaker 1: line as it moves down for maybe a thousand here
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Speaker 1: and there, but this no longer will be one of
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Speaker 1: our five. I just I can't do it, especially when
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Speaker 1: the guy like that's reaching out to me. I just
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Speaker 1: have to respect the call. So that that was an
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Speaker 1: interesting call. Then we had a bunch of pros on
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Speaker 1: the same side as us. The guys love Tennessee. We
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Speaker 1: see it's still sitting there in minus three and a half.
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Speaker 1: Um had a couple of people reach out to me
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Speaker 1: and asked me about that number. When you have a
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Speaker 1: three and a half and you have the favorite, that's
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Speaker 1: a good thing. When it doesn't move to three. That
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Speaker 1: means that professionals are coming on the minus three and
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Speaker 1: a half. When I look at the Pittsburgh game, that's scary.
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Speaker 1: The fact that it's still sitting on three and a
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Speaker 1: half and that that pro money has come in on
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Speaker 1: them and still sitting there at six three and a half.
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Speaker 1: For Pittsburgh, that's scary because they're the dog. When it's
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Speaker 1: the favorite, you feel good about. So with Tennessee, I'm
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Speaker 1: seeing some fours out there on off shore books. Nothing
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Speaker 1: changed there. I still love that number. A bunch of
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Speaker 1: pros love that number, so they're alling with us on Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: Another discripancy for US is I said, I really like
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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Got a lot of pushback on that one.
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Speaker 1: Talk to two different pros. Their group has already hit
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Speaker 1: the rams for small Uh. Yeah, the rams and minus
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Speaker 1: three minus three and al for a small amount. They're
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Speaker 1: trying to bet it again. Obviously, it's a little different
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Speaker 1: where you're limited earlier in the week because of all
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Speaker 1: the injury news, and then we saw the deal Lamar.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that video chat, but
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Speaker 1: it's bad. The coach blows the whistle for the end
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Speaker 1: of the drill and you're supposed to draw to the
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Speaker 1: next station. He looked like an eight year old man.
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Speaker 1: He could barely really move on it. He was just
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Speaker 1: very I don't even know how to explain it. It's
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Speaker 1: just like like he didn't want to put weight on
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Speaker 1: that ankle um when he's stepping up the throw, he
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Speaker 1: don't want to put weight on it. What are we
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Speaker 1: doing here? If I want to bet Lamar, I'm betting
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Speaker 1: on him on his athleticism. So I didn't get it
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Speaker 1: when they were telling me that why they were so
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Speaker 1: heavy on the Rams. And then I saw the footage.
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Speaker 1: Maybe it was last night this morning of Lamar putting
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Speaker 1: weight on the ankle and trying to run on it.
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Speaker 1: So I'll buy out. I'm gonna buy out on my
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Speaker 1: Ravens position. It's just I can't do it. So as
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Speaker 1: long as it's under five or four and a half
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Speaker 1: and you can still get this number, I got no
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Speaker 1: issue taking the Rams to me. This was a trap
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Speaker 1: spot for this Rams team. But if Lamar can't run
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Speaker 1: and you can just make him one, you know, all
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Speaker 1: you have to do worry about is Lamar throwing the ball.
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Speaker 1: That kind of takes away half the offensive the Ravens,
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Speaker 1: so that that was definitely one of the bigger ones
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Speaker 1: that changed my mind because I told you coming in,
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Speaker 1: I was either gonna bet the Ravens or not bet
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Speaker 1: at all, and now I flipped. Now I am bet
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Speaker 1: in the Rams, just because I know other pros are
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Speaker 1: on that number. So that the Ravens this morning at
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Speaker 1: plus four, I know I'm right there with you. Though,
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Speaker 1: like I I love them coming in, I have to
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Speaker 1: try to try to go against my own number and
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Speaker 1: just look at other people's views and then what their
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Speaker 1: information they're gonna be if they're getting good info that
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Speaker 1: he's not right and that he's forcing it, and then
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Speaker 1: we see the video of him looking like that. Just
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Speaker 1: it was just the reason I bought out of my
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Speaker 1: position Washington football team. If I hadn't already made my
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Speaker 1: big bets of the season, this would probably end up
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Speaker 1: being one of them. I'm I feel like I'm up
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Speaker 1: to eight different guys I talked to in the last
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Speaker 1: forty eight hours that have just bet this number, bet
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Speaker 1: this money line all over Washington. When one process something
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Speaker 1: really interesting me, he was like, Okay, they played two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, who was the quarter? I don't even remember
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Speaker 1: it was like their third string or fourth stringer. They
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Speaker 1: end up losing that game to the Eagles twenty seven
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Speaker 1: to seventeen. We're just going off that it's weird again,
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Speaker 1: It's very weird. The bookmakers dinna make this line seven.
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Speaker 1: Their whole rationale behind it was the same as me,
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Speaker 1: I make this number two and a half three. They
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Speaker 1: make this number a pick. They think they're getting three
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Speaker 1: and a half four points of value. That's why I
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Speaker 1: think so many of them are making this one of
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Speaker 1: their bigger bets. I love that we made this our
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Speaker 1: foxhole bet. We told people to take it at four,
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Speaker 1: take it a three and a half. It's down to three,
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Speaker 1: down to three and a half in a lot of books,
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Speaker 1: just a pro number. So it wasn't shocking here. And
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Speaker 1: then the second biggest one they all talked about was
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Speaker 1: that Vikings game. So coming up in the show, you'll
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Speaker 1: hear someone against this pick. But we hit it right
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Speaker 1: on the head. We knew this this number kind of stunk.
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Speaker 1: We knew that the pros are gonna bet this. The
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Speaker 1: fact that the bookmakers haven't moved back to seven now
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Speaker 1: it's been two days, it touched like I have alerts
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Speaker 1: on my phone through our Great Action app. I got
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Speaker 1: two alerts for seven. I called on my runner, said, hey,
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Speaker 1: can you make it to our board gotta can you
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Speaker 1: make it to this other casino and get this number
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Speaker 1: down real quick. By the time he got there was
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Speaker 1: already six and a half. By the time he got
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Speaker 1: to the next casino is already down a six and
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Speaker 1: a half. So it literally, as we're talking, moved to seven.
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Speaker 1: All the books are just a couple I see it
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Speaker 1: at a couple of books in Connecticut. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: what we're hoping for. So we'll take the seven with him.
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Speaker 1: It probably moves because I believe they're getting Alexander back,
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Speaker 1: which is a big, big deal for this Green Bay team.
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Speaker 1: But my whole right reasoning for liking this Vikings team again,
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Speaker 1: I people keep reaching out to us about Kirk and
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Speaker 1: prime time. We have the same numbers. I know how
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Speaker 1: bad Kirk is in prime time. We just have to
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Speaker 1: go off the matchups. I can't really let that trend
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Speaker 1: too much game in my head. Dalvin Cook against this
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Speaker 1: run defensive Green Bay, I mean, what a match up
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Speaker 1: advantage to this Vikings team. We just saw Chubb absolutely
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Speaker 1: tear through them with this Brown's team. We've seen it
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Speaker 1: week after week. If you run it up the middle
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Speaker 1: of this Green Bay team, you can kind of dominate
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Speaker 1: them and you can control the clock. So to me, again,
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Speaker 1: it's not really changed my view. It's gonna be one
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Speaker 1: of the more public places of the week then Green
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Speaker 1: Bay in the Eagles, but be on the other side
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Speaker 1: of it. I just feel good in week seventeen. You
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Speaker 1: kind of want to be with a book at this point.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that we're getting kind of free points
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Speaker 1: here with Washington, if that could get to four again,
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Speaker 1: that'd be amazing. Like you just said, the Vikings already
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Speaker 1: it up to seven again. I'm gonna send a couple
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Speaker 1: of texts right now and trying to get that number
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Speaker 1: because to me, it's just not gonna last. I could
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Speaker 1: just see going back down to six and a half
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Speaker 1: plus seven minus one fourteen, So it's not gonna last long.
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Speaker 1: I just bet it at FanDuel here in Connecticut. There
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Speaker 1: you go. What do you think of that? As we're talking?
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Speaker 1: All right, well, listen, you got to some of the games,
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Speaker 1: but we do have to narrow them down. I will
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Speaker 1: state clearly that I've already made a bunch of bets
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Speaker 1: based on our conversation the other day. The other day Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: it got down to minus three from three and a half.
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Speaker 1: I bet that. I did a bet Atlanta plus fourteen.
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little bit uncomfortable about that. I got
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Speaker 1: Washington plus four. Again, we're gonna talk to Kansas City
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Speaker 1: minus five against the Bengals, I bet Baltimore, Minnesota. I
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Speaker 1: got Pittsburgh plus three and a half. Okay, let's skip
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Speaker 1: the bucks in the Jets we had, we had circled it.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna play it, but let's talk
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Speaker 1: about the Chiefs and the Bengals. That was one of
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Speaker 1: the picks that we loved on Tuesday, Chiefs minus five.
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Speaker 1: Getting a lot of push back on that, and just
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Speaker 1: quick as side on the Tampa game. It's probably gonna
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Speaker 1: be in my prop pick for Sunday morning. We when
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Speaker 1: our show convinced me a b I believe he needs
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Speaker 1: two hundred yards receiving to hit a bonus. I just
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Speaker 1: could see time trying to get him there. So the
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Speaker 1: next two weeks will be all over. There's a bunch
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Speaker 1: of different players like this, but I love players with
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Speaker 1: bonuses and veteran quarterbacks who they want to help these
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Speaker 1: guys out, especially a guy like a b who took
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Speaker 1: less money or get whatever to be on Tampa to
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Speaker 1: be with Brady. I can just see Brady trying to
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Speaker 1: help him. So for me, I'll be on the Jets
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Speaker 1: in that game and that's a that's a problem, and
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Speaker 1: be on the way bigger. I'll be on a bunch
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Speaker 1: of a b props. I knew where to get pushed
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Speaker 1: back in that Chiefs game. I knew when we said
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Speaker 1: it just people assume always that will always take the dogs,
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Speaker 1: especially at home dogs. I just can't do it. We
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Speaker 1: we talked about all the reasons. I mean, the biggest
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Speaker 1: one is um the Mahomes factor. The fact that such
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Speaker 1: a young, inexperienced team in the Bengals, Like someone said, uh,
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Speaker 1: I think they broke our record. They had the most
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Speaker 1: they had two receivers over a thousand yards that are
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Speaker 1: under twenty five, and they had a running act over
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Speaker 1: a thousand yards and twenty five. So this is just
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Speaker 1: a very young, inexperienced team. I love the Bengals. I
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Speaker 1: love their future. I love what they've built. They're they're
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Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. There's no doubt. This is just
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Speaker 1: a bad spot for them. This is um again. I
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Speaker 1: heard too that if they win this game that I
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Speaker 1: don't need to worry about the next week. They win this,
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Speaker 1: they're actually in the playoffs. Next week is for the
15:20
Speaker 1: division though. That was my whole point. That's why I
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Speaker 1: felt like they'd be looking ahead. They want to win
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Speaker 1: the North. That's that. That means a lot to them,
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Speaker 1: especially a franchise hasn't won in a long time. So
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Speaker 1: coming in, I told you I wanted to take the Bengals.
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Speaker 1: The Bengals were still at seven, seven and a half,
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Speaker 1: I'll be all over it. It's not it's down to five.
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Speaker 1: The professionals, the public, everyone is coming and bet the
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Speaker 1: Bengals down to this point. So nothing's changed here. I
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Speaker 1: still love the Chiefs. I know I might be walking
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Speaker 1: into or stepping in that the Chiefs are due for
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Speaker 1: a letdown game. I feel like they've had letdown games
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Speaker 1: and they've kind of got away with it because their
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Speaker 1: defense has been that good for them. So their offense,
15:54
Speaker 1: to me, is clicking into form. They're they're only getting better.
15:58
Speaker 1: They'll have Travis Kelsey back this week. They're they're they're
16:00
Speaker 1: going to keep improving on what they've been building so
16:03
Speaker 1: that that defense, with that offense against this Bengals team,
16:07
Speaker 1: this line should have been seven. The fact that it's
16:09
Speaker 1: moved so much just because of what the Bengals did
16:10
Speaker 1: last week when in such a big game, putting up
16:13
Speaker 1: so many points against the beat up Ravens teams. It
16:16
Speaker 1: still feels that we're getting free points here. So to me,
16:19
Speaker 1: you're getting the number under six. You have to take
16:21
Speaker 1: it every time. You have to take the Chiefs here,
16:23
Speaker 1: all right. I mean, I'm I'm siding with you. Whatever
16:26
Speaker 1: you say on this, I'm going with it is against it. Look,
16:30
Speaker 1: it's against everything that we would normally do. Right, It's
16:33
Speaker 1: we've been fading the Chiefs this year, but they're under
16:36
Speaker 1: a touchdown favorite when they've been over a touchdown favorites
16:39
Speaker 1: when they've struggled the most. We are impressed with their
16:41
Speaker 1: defense has done lately. But you can also look and
16:44
Speaker 1: say their defense is played a Charger team in which
16:47
Speaker 1: they struggled mightily against the run and one because of
16:50
Speaker 1: really bad decisions by Brandon Staley. They beat a Giants
16:53
Speaker 1: team that is terrible. They beat a Broncos team that
16:56
Speaker 1: they probably should have lost too, because they had four
16:58
Speaker 1: and fifty yards of offense Uncles did and had some
17:01
Speaker 1: bad luck around the end zone. So you could easily
17:06
Speaker 1: look at this and say that everything the Chiefs are
17:08
Speaker 1: doing well is the opposite of what we need. I
17:10
Speaker 1: do think it's interesting, like you just said, you just
17:13
Speaker 1: said they're They've got all these young players the Bengals,
17:16
Speaker 1: who have done all these amazing things under twenty five,
17:19
Speaker 1: But that also shows their inexperienced, right, And so we're
17:22
Speaker 1: using the fact they're amazing to highlight the inexperience. I'm
17:28
Speaker 1: not sure i'd buy that logic Simon saying that they've
17:31
Speaker 1: had an amazing season, But again, look at who they played.
17:35
Speaker 1: The North is at af C. North is absolutely terrible
17:37
Speaker 1: this season. So like, yeah, I'm giving them a bunch
17:39
Speaker 1: of respect, a bunch of props. It's about to get
17:42
Speaker 1: real from that was my whole point. Like they've had,
17:43
Speaker 1: they put up all these incredible numbers. Now they're now
17:46
Speaker 1: they're the cream of the crop. The best team they
17:49
Speaker 1: have seen the last four years. Are wably the best
17:52
Speaker 1: coach of I can't really say because of Belichick, but
17:54
Speaker 1: it's been Belichick, if not Belichick, than Andy Reid is
17:58
Speaker 1: is right there getting a lot more read it. Yes,
18:01
Speaker 1: So that that's my whole point. It's like the coach
18:04
Speaker 1: the coaching mismatch, including the youth, the youth of the Bengals.
18:08
Speaker 1: That's why I think is gonna end up hurting them
18:09
Speaker 1: in this game. It's just it's it's gonna be too
18:11
Speaker 1: much for them to overcome. All right, So now we
18:14
Speaker 1: know on on Tuesday when we talked about the Raiders
18:16
Speaker 1: and the Colts, the Colts were two and a half
18:18
Speaker 1: point favorites and Carson Wentz had just been ruled out.
18:21
Speaker 1: Now we know it's Sam Ellinger and it's going to
18:24
Speaker 1: be quarterback. But this line is now shot back up
18:27
Speaker 1: to six and a half. So basically what happened was
18:30
Speaker 1: the NFL changed their protocol. The CDC came out and
18:33
Speaker 1: they changed it to five days of quarantine. So literally,
18:38
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard, the star linebacker, he was supposed to be
18:41
Speaker 1: out this upcoming week under the old guidelines because he
18:44
Speaker 1: tested positive and I think it was ten days, so
18:47
Speaker 1: he was gonna supposed to miss this week. He just
18:49
Speaker 1: got cleared today. He was at practice today Leonard for
18:51
Speaker 1: the cold. So they changed the guidelines where Carson, if
18:55
Speaker 1: he comes in Saturday or maybe it's Sunday morning, gets
18:58
Speaker 1: his temperature checked and he's below the threshold whatever it
19:01
Speaker 1: is degrees, he can play. Um, he doesn't need to
19:05
Speaker 1: take a test to pass, he just needs a pass
19:07
Speaker 1: the temperature check. So basically NFL has sold their soul.
19:10
Speaker 1: They don't care anymore. They're like, you know what, we're
19:12
Speaker 1: sucking over this bullshit. We need the money, we need
19:15
Speaker 1: the ratings. We don't want people complaining about star athletes
19:17
Speaker 1: missing playoff games. We don't care if you have COVID.
19:20
Speaker 1: If you if you don't have any symptoms and your
19:21
Speaker 1: temperatures blow a certain level, you can play. So it's gross,
19:26
Speaker 1: it's grimy. But Carson might be back. He tested positive,
19:29
Speaker 1: I believe Monday morning. In five days Saturday he passed
19:34
Speaker 1: that temperature check, he'll be in there. So the bookmakers
19:36
Speaker 1: are hanging that line because they don't want any more
19:37
Speaker 1: exposure to that Colts number. Um they got they probably
19:40
Speaker 1: got hit hard when the CDC came out in the
19:43
Speaker 1: NFL changes are ruling on that one and a half. Whatever,
19:45
Speaker 1: they're hanging that colds number. They're they're just gonna play
19:48
Speaker 1: it safe and they'll just leave it up there for now.
19:49
Speaker 1: So for me, if you missed that one a half
19:52
Speaker 1: two and a half of the Colts, I'd wait, just
19:54
Speaker 1: wait until you know Carson's back. I would not be
19:56
Speaker 1: betting that, betting real money on this rookie quarterback at
19:59
Speaker 1: this point. So just keep waiting. You already missed the
20:01
Speaker 1: best of the number that there's not much you can
20:02
Speaker 1: do with it now. Alright, So we talked a lot
20:04
Speaker 1: about the Washington football team, but we should you know,
20:07
Speaker 1: we made it. We talked a lot about it on
20:08
Speaker 1: Tuesday too. It was our Foxhole bet. It was at
20:12
Speaker 1: plus four. We loved it. Then Overreaction Special of the Week. Right,
20:19
Speaker 1: you're talking about the Washington football team that just got destroyed.
20:24
Speaker 1: We're talking about an Eagles team that really struggles in
20:28
Speaker 1: the first half. Stucky uh and Raybon talking on the
20:32
Speaker 1: Action Network podcast this morning, had a great stat teams
20:37
Speaker 1: that don't cover by more than twenty eight points. I
20:40
Speaker 1: they were blown the funk out like the Washington football
20:43
Speaker 1: team was this past weekends Dallas six and five against
20:48
Speaker 1: the spread. Since two thousand three, bookmakers just bank on
20:52
Speaker 1: public overreactions. Everyone in Vegas loves this game. You mentioned it.
20:56
Speaker 1: You got calls from eight different groups that love this game,
20:59
Speaker 1: washing and a football team bang it again. I try
21:03
Speaker 1: to tell people a time, a lot of these groups
21:04
Speaker 1: are calling me because they want me to make bets
21:06
Speaker 1: for them in New Jersey. That's honestly why a lot
21:08
Speaker 1: of these guys reach out to me. It's just there
21:10
Speaker 1: might be two books that take professional money in Vegas,
21:14
Speaker 1: New Jersey. It's easy to spread it out. I mean,
21:17
Speaker 1: you can get a thousand down on twenty different books.
21:19
Speaker 1: That's a twenty k bet. Instead of really popping up
21:21
Speaker 1: on these books radars, you're gonna spread it out. So
21:24
Speaker 1: that's a lot of the reason a lot of these
21:25
Speaker 1: guys are calling me talking talking about Washington is just
21:28
Speaker 1: they're trying to get that four. That that that was
21:30
Speaker 1: the biggest thing. A lot of people reaching out because
21:31
Speaker 1: they wanted that plus four. So the that's a good number.
21:35
Speaker 1: By stuck in them, I bet you it goes even
21:37
Speaker 1: higher in divisional matchups. Um. But the biggest thing is
21:41
Speaker 1: just Washington has a great run defense up front, and
21:44
Speaker 1: we've seen it with Hurts. He's inconsistent. The public's gonna
21:48
Speaker 1: keep coming on this this Eagle's number. That should be
21:51
Speaker 1: a big warning sign to people that's already come back
21:53
Speaker 1: down again. Some off shore books have this down to three.
21:56
Speaker 1: That's a huge, huge red flag of people the best
22:00
Speaker 1: that's a percent of the money is coming in on
22:01
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and the line has now moved the full
22:03
Speaker 1: point from four down to three. That's that's a big sign,
22:07
Speaker 1: a big winning sign not to be taking the Eagles.
22:09
Speaker 1: So as we sit here, if this line is three
22:11
Speaker 1: and a half in our contest, how do we not
22:14
Speaker 1: making one of our five? I agree? I'm with you man.
22:19
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Titans game, though I'm skipping over
22:22
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Ravens. We talked a little bit
22:23
Speaker 1: about it. Too much, too much stuff, we don't know.
22:27
Speaker 1: We just just for clarity. We both like the Falcons
22:31
Speaker 1: as big dogs against the Bills. Market is kind of
22:33
Speaker 1: in agreement with us only in that it moved from
22:36
Speaker 1: like sixteen to fourteen and is basically wavered between fourteen
22:40
Speaker 1: and fourteen and a half. Titans have not moved. There
22:42
Speaker 1: are three and a half against the Dolphins. Everybody who's
22:46
Speaker 1: professional likes the Titans this week. Yeah, you saw it.
22:48
Speaker 1: Though you did see a little bit of movement. It
22:50
Speaker 1: came down to three. So some pro group on Miami
22:53
Speaker 1: they moved it. Then way more money came back in
22:56
Speaker 1: on Tennessee and went, we're right back up. And it
22:58
Speaker 1: might have moved just for couple of hours and it
23:00
Speaker 1: was shot back up three and a half. You know
23:02
Speaker 1: more better than me, Like, I don't, I know stuck
23:05
Speaker 1: he hates Miami. I'm sure he's all over this Tennessee.
23:09
Speaker 1: His his simple reason. It's just gonna be what a
23:11
Speaker 1: lot of people are looking at. It's like Miami hasn't
23:13
Speaker 1: been anyone on this one streak. Who are they to,
23:16
Speaker 1: you know, be under six points against the Tennessee team
23:19
Speaker 1: that has been proven has been beating good teams while injured.
23:23
Speaker 1: I mean they were beating teams while they had key
23:26
Speaker 1: guys out. Now they're gonna allow these key guys back.
23:28
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, what's your scrutual lepics. So you
23:31
Speaker 1: already love it, You're already in on it, Tennessee. If
23:34
Speaker 1: you're getting under four, under five, it's a great number.
23:37
Speaker 1: You have to take it and just live with the result.
23:39
Speaker 1: It's this number should be six. Um. Maybe the bookmakers
23:43
Speaker 1: are kind of lanter trap here, and I'm walking into it.
23:45
Speaker 1: The fact that so much public money has come in
23:47
Speaker 1: on Miami and some pro money and they moved it down,
23:50
Speaker 1: I means there is someone betting that other side, which
23:52
Speaker 1: makes me feel better because if it was eight of
23:54
Speaker 1: the money apes on the tickets on Tennessee, yeah, I
23:57
Speaker 1: might have to be like, okay, we need to take
23:58
Speaker 1: a step back. We might be walking in the one.
24:00
Speaker 1: It's not that kind of describancy. It's pretty even across
24:03
Speaker 1: the board, so I it could be the public we're
24:06
Speaker 1: riding with here, but I got no issue with that.
24:07
Speaker 1: I just like that Tennessee number. I think it's a
24:09
Speaker 1: smart number. Remember the Titans, Baby, the Vikings, and the Packers.
24:15
Speaker 1: So I mentioned that Scooch is going to come on later,
24:18
Speaker 1: the originator of the Scooch roulette game. He's gonna make
24:22
Speaker 1: a Scooch re let pick. It may or may not
24:24
Speaker 1: involve this game. We love the Vikings here. Big balls
24:29
Speaker 1: better the week, Big balls better the week. So much
24:36
Speaker 1: pushback from our followers, Oh my god, I get it.
24:40
Speaker 1: People hate betting Kirk in prime time. We know we
24:43
Speaker 1: have to take this number. It's so implay. I think
24:47
Speaker 1: those prime time There are systems that matter, that have
24:52
Speaker 1: data sets that are huge. There are gimmicks. This feels
24:57
Speaker 1: like a fucking gimmick. It is glaring though, I I want,
25:01
Speaker 1: I gotta look it up because that people keep posting it.
25:03
Speaker 1: But I think it was like two and nine against
25:05
Speaker 1: the spread in primetime games, something crazy like that. But
25:09
Speaker 1: it's too much. It's too big of a number in
25:11
Speaker 1: a matchup, and especially with Green Bay. Is the public darling,
25:15
Speaker 1: we we knew. I'm on some chalk this week. I'm
25:18
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I've actually flipped from the Cardinals to
25:20
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I'm on the Cowboys now. Um, the more
25:23
Speaker 1: tape I've watched, the more I have numbers I've looked
25:25
Speaker 1: into this one. I haven't changed. If anything, I feel
25:28
Speaker 1: even better about my posiness on the Vikings. The fact
25:30
Speaker 1: that Dalvin Cook is now back for this Vikings team.
25:33
Speaker 1: His run style is perfect for a matchup against the
25:36
Speaker 1: green Bay run defense. They hate running backs with speed
25:39
Speaker 1: and power that go up the middle. That's one of
25:42
Speaker 1: the worst things they're at the defending green Bay this year.
25:45
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Dalvin Cook does. He is a man
25:47
Speaker 1: with speed and power, so looking at this across the board.
25:51
Speaker 1: Chad just talked about it. It moved up to seven.
25:53
Speaker 1: Grabbed that seven if you can. I'm worried about by
25:56
Speaker 1: the time you're here this, we'll be back on a
25:57
Speaker 1: six and a half, which still is fine. I'm I'll
26:00
Speaker 1: have you taking a six and a half. Just a
26:02
Speaker 1: proverset shows game. Like Chad talked about it, it's a
26:04
Speaker 1: primetime game. Everyone all their all their money line parlay's,
26:08
Speaker 1: all their teasers, everything's gonna end Sunday night tied to
26:11
Speaker 1: this game. We're getting to three points of value just
26:14
Speaker 1: because of that. The bookmakers they had to pump this lineup,
26:18
Speaker 1: just you know, factoring all that money coming in on
26:20
Speaker 1: those money on parlays and teasers. So as long as
26:23
Speaker 1: you're getting six and a half, I still love this number.
26:26
Speaker 1: Why did you flip on the Cardinals and the Cowboys?
26:29
Speaker 1: Like that was a game that you know, it was
26:32
Speaker 1: at five and a half on Tuesday, it's at four
26:34
Speaker 1: and a half now I think I'm not sure, Like,
26:38
Speaker 1: is it because the number moved down a little bit
26:41
Speaker 1: like it was it was? It should have been a
26:42
Speaker 1: three or three and a half. Anyways, I honestly looked
26:45
Speaker 1: through it. It's just the issues. Let me correct myself
26:48
Speaker 1: though I'm seeing it at six now. So it went
26:51
Speaker 1: down and came back up again. I talked to a
26:53
Speaker 1: couple of pros who liked Alas and that maybe you
26:56
Speaker 1: had me start wavering. But it was when I went
26:58
Speaker 1: back and looked at the numbers, looked at the film.
27:00
Speaker 1: Him on Kyler on third down since he's come back
27:02
Speaker 1: from his injury. If you just take Hopkins out on
27:05
Speaker 1: his third down place, it's crazy how reliant he is
27:09
Speaker 1: on his own legs and Connor. And I know Connor
27:12
Speaker 1: is supposed to be back this week for them at
27:13
Speaker 1: running back for Arizona. That's a big deal for them.
27:16
Speaker 1: But they've they've they've put too much on Kyler. They've
27:19
Speaker 1: put too much on the shoulders of a guy who
27:21
Speaker 1: he just isn't right. He's not making the right reads.
27:24
Speaker 1: He doesn't have his speed right now. Like that that
27:27
Speaker 1: guy catching him against the Colts from behind. I was
27:29
Speaker 1: shocked by that. Kyler looked like he was gonna break
27:31
Speaker 1: away running for a touchdown. He got a call from behind,
27:33
Speaker 1: which is very rare for him. So I I hate
27:37
Speaker 1: taking the tralk, I really do. And it's like painful
27:39
Speaker 1: to do, especially with the Cowboys that I said that
27:42
Speaker 1: this line is over in flay with the Cowboys just
27:44
Speaker 1: because they've been covering Machine and the books know that
27:46
Speaker 1: they can't take the public keep winning. You know, a
27:49
Speaker 1: guy I a bookmaker, really talked to the other night
27:52
Speaker 1: said their biggest liability for this coming weekend is the
27:56
Speaker 1: Dallas Green Bay teasers. He says, every single person coming
28:00
Speaker 1: and done two team teasers. He says, it's like ten
28:03
Speaker 1: to one the money compared to the next closest teasers.
28:05
Speaker 1: So it's rare for me to take the trunk like
28:08
Speaker 1: I am. But with this Cowboys matchup, it's who do
28:11
Speaker 1: I trust more on key downs, third downs have consistent
28:16
Speaker 1: good drives. It's the Cowboys right now. I've seen it
28:19
Speaker 1: from them the last couple of weeks. I try to
28:21
Speaker 1: go against him because I thought Dak was banged up
28:23
Speaker 1: and he had him in playing well. Even with that,
28:26
Speaker 1: it's not gonna matter if you can run the ball
28:27
Speaker 1: with Pollard and zeke Eli against this really banged up
28:30
Speaker 1: front of the Cardinals, it doesn't really matter what that's
28:32
Speaker 1: gonna be doing. So it's rare, Like you said, I
28:35
Speaker 1: don't really flip to a talk favorite, but I did
28:37
Speaker 1: in this case. Is there a number you wouldn't bet
28:40
Speaker 1: it at, Like it's already at six, that's it. Like six,
28:43
Speaker 1: I'd still take it at six, But once it hit
28:45
Speaker 1: six and a half seven, I'm off of it, all right.
28:49
Speaker 1: The last game, I gotta talk about the Steelers and
28:51
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Browns are three and a half point favorites.
28:54
Speaker 1: We love the Steelers at three and a half in
28:56
Speaker 1: this spot. That is your Scooter Roulette pick. I found
28:59
Speaker 1: my notes. By the way, Uh, that's your scrupule let pick.
29:03
Speaker 1: I know why. It makes total sense. We loved it
29:07
Speaker 1: so fucked um. I got a couple gotta get some
29:10
Speaker 1: pushback on this. Obviously, some pros they like the Browns
29:13
Speaker 1: in this position. I just have to look beyond just
29:16
Speaker 1: the numbers on paper. Again, it was Tom Win coming
29:19
Speaker 1: home after an embarrassing loss, coming home to play you know,
29:23
Speaker 1: a Browns team that they had a close loss last
29:25
Speaker 1: weekdndstre But they weren't really that embarrassed. I mean there,
29:28
Speaker 1: they're a hungry team. Pittsburgh. This is it. This is
29:32
Speaker 1: literally their season. This is Ben Roethlisberger's last home game.
29:35
Speaker 1: Apparently of his career, Like he said, he told a
29:38
Speaker 1: couple report He's not gonna say it's his last game,
29:40
Speaker 1: but he think, he says, he's pretty sure this is
29:42
Speaker 1: it for him. I had to put all that emotion
29:44
Speaker 1: into this line. I can't just be a robot and
29:46
Speaker 1: just look at this and be like, oh, this line
29:48
Speaker 1: should be three. The Browns are better tell on the
29:50
Speaker 1: paper and maybe I'll just take the Browns here. No,
29:53
Speaker 1: when when I made this line, I made a minus
29:54
Speaker 1: one for the Pittsburgh. I still think I'm getting four
29:57
Speaker 1: and a half points of value. I'll still take Pittsburgh.
29:59
Speaker 1: I know it's me the public side. They're a public dog.
30:02
Speaker 1: Please don't talk to me about more victories. Are that
30:04
Speaker 1: be disrespectful to those guys in the room. Maybe some
30:07
Speaker 1: pro groups coming on the Cleveland. That's why they've kept
30:09
Speaker 1: it this way. But how it was positive, by today
30:12
Speaker 1: it would be down to three. And the fact that
30:13
Speaker 1: it's still three and a half little scary, little scary
30:16
Speaker 1: um because the bookmakers are not doing this any favorites.
30:19
Speaker 1: They don't want to give us an extra hook for free.
30:22
Speaker 1: They want you to pay for that hook. They want
30:24
Speaker 1: to move to three and make some sucker pay minus
30:27
Speaker 1: to buy the hook up. So it is interesting that
30:30
Speaker 1: line hasn't moved, but nothing's changed. I'm still betting it.
30:33
Speaker 1: I've still bet it every day this week Ben Alsberger's
30:36
Speaker 1: last home game. Tomlin that defense, ra Ra, Let's go
30:41
Speaker 1: what ra Ra? Mike Tomlin spot. I haven't heard anything
30:51
Speaker 1: that we've discussed. I haven't seen anything in the line
30:53
Speaker 1: moves the past couple of days that makes me feel
30:55
Speaker 1: differently about what we're thinking about for Sunday, Chiefs minus
30:59
Speaker 1: five love its Steelers plus three and a half. Nervous
31:02
Speaker 1: but still like it tightens minus three and a half.
31:04
Speaker 1: I want to marry it. Washington Football Team. If you
31:07
Speaker 1: can get it plus four, it pops back up great.
31:09
Speaker 1: Plus three and a half is still good. That is
31:11
Speaker 1: the game that every wise guy is circling. It is
31:15
Speaker 1: a big pros Joe's game. Big bets on the UH
31:19
Speaker 1: side of the Eagles, big money on the side of
31:21
Speaker 1: the football team and the Titans minus three and a half?
31:25
Speaker 1: What Steelers, Titans vikes Washington Football Team? Chiefs, Yeah, and
31:30
Speaker 1: again we might shuffle one in there, like maybe I'll
31:32
Speaker 1: convinced Chad if something comes Sunday. But I love those five.
31:36
Speaker 1: I bet all those five multiple times. It's just there's very,
31:40
Speaker 1: very little that will change from now until then unless
31:42
Speaker 1: some COVID news breaks out. Like again, if pat Patrick
31:46
Speaker 1: Mahomes is out for this game, yes, I'm buying out
31:49
Speaker 1: in my Chiefs position. But you know, if all these
31:52
Speaker 1: guys pass their COVID test, nothing's gonna change here. I
31:55
Speaker 1: have bet all those games plus Atlanta plus fourteen and
31:58
Speaker 1: uh Baltimore plus four are immediately regretful. Simon, we did
32:03
Speaker 1: our big balls reminder, our foxhol was the Washington football team,
32:09
Speaker 1: Simon says, with Pittsburgh Foxhil was Washington football team, big
32:12
Speaker 1: balls better the week we just did Minnesota Vikings. Should
32:18
Speaker 1: we run through our round robin? Yeah, let's do it
32:21
Speaker 1: round robin? This alright, tricky, right, Yeah, It's it's tough
32:28
Speaker 1: because there's teams I can see covering as these dogs,
32:30
Speaker 1: but I just can't see them winning out right, Like,
32:32
Speaker 1: I bet a little bit on the Minnesota Vikings money line.
32:35
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is like eleven and O or
32:37
Speaker 1: twelve and oh at Lambeau in December, You're not really
32:40
Speaker 1: getting great value taking Minnesota's money line against that kind
32:43
Speaker 1: of number. But you got the big balls and you
32:45
Speaker 1: want to bet with me, I'll be taking them in
32:47
Speaker 1: my amount of money line round Robin, let's get gross,
32:50
Speaker 1: Buddy shocked the world gross. How can we not take
32:54
Speaker 1: Atlanta's moneyline against the Bills. That's a huge number. Don't
32:58
Speaker 1: feel good about it. It's like it's either then were
33:00
Speaker 1: the Jets. I honestly I feel better about taking Atlanta.
33:03
Speaker 1: We're in Atlanta Falcons podcast. We are, and you just
33:06
Speaker 1: need you need to throw in some big lvy dogs
33:08
Speaker 1: in this thing. It's just to pay out so so nice.
33:11
Speaker 1: It's like again, I'm kicking myself from missing out on
33:13
Speaker 1: Houston last week. Like that plus five. God, you love
33:16
Speaker 1: to take those, all right, So we got Atlanta, Minnesota.
33:22
Speaker 1: Minnesota are not taking Washington. Washington football team, the Bengals.
33:28
Speaker 1: People can say what they want. I'm all way and
33:29
Speaker 1: see if it's Teddy Covers Denver members up a six
33:32
Speaker 1: and a half at this point, maybe the bookmakers know
33:35
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna be Teddy. I have we're sitting
33:37
Speaker 1: here on Thursday. If it comes today morning, it's Teddy.
33:40
Speaker 1: I guarantee people, this will be one of my five
33:43
Speaker 1: and to cap it off Houston, they're playing against the
33:46
Speaker 1: rookie and tray Lands shock the world. Davis Mills went
33:49
Speaker 1: back to back plus five hundred as a dog for us. Uh,
33:53
Speaker 1: I know, I'm pretty sure when I saw it before
33:56
Speaker 1: we came on. They're probably the biggest public dog this week,
33:59
Speaker 1: right Houston. It's it's terrifying, but we have to do it.
34:02
Speaker 1: It's it's Trey Lance making a start here. Let's fade
34:05
Speaker 1: it and try to get try to get lucky two
34:06
Speaker 1: weeks in a row and have this Houston team. Uh,
34:09
Speaker 1: it is gross. But as you've said, Davis Mills, he
34:12
Speaker 1: might be better than Trevor Lawrence right now. That's fact.
34:17
Speaker 1: And if you don't mind waiting Forest Pittsburgh, I've add
34:20
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and all my money line round Robins. It's just
34:22
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like wait until Monday night.
34:25
Speaker 1: And you also mentioned Texas the biggest public dog this
34:28
Speaker 1: week of the bets on the Texans right now. Yeah,
34:32
Speaker 1: they might be dead that that might be dead on arrival,
34:35
Speaker 1: but d o A, yeah, that's you don't want to
34:39
Speaker 1: you do not want to be hearing that when you
34:40
Speaker 1: take a big dog, that's never a good side at
34:42
Speaker 1: this point in the season, is there is it worth
34:45
Speaker 1: doing a Survivor? Is there anything left? I've had a
34:47
Speaker 1: couple of people reach out, but it's like less than
34:50
Speaker 1: one percent of our fan base. I would say, trust
34:53
Speaker 1: what guy you here. I'll throw something out Sunday morning
34:55
Speaker 1: about what my numbers are saying the value is for
34:57
Speaker 1: the survivor. But I don't know, because I just don't
35:00
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna have at this point, Like, what
35:02
Speaker 1: do you have left possible at this point? Yeah? So
35:05
Speaker 1: to me, if there's teams you've been saving, just like
35:08
Speaker 1: the bullet and ticket, if you've been saving the Buccaneers
35:10
Speaker 1: for this matchup against the Jets, yeah, any given Sunday,
35:13
Speaker 1: weird chick can happen. But I mean, how do you
35:16
Speaker 1: not take the Bucks. If you've been saving him this
35:17
Speaker 1: whole season for this Jets matchup, you have to take it.
35:20
Speaker 1: So I would say at this point, stop saving, stop
35:22
Speaker 1: playing ahead. Just get through the week and get to
35:24
Speaker 1: the final week. You have two weeks left for the
35:25
Speaker 1: Survivor contest. Just take the good teams. You've got nothing
35:28
Speaker 1: to save for. We've done all we can do. We've
35:31
Speaker 1: done the sharp calls, We've given the five picks that
35:33
Speaker 1: we still love. Washington Football Team plus three and a half,
35:36
Speaker 1: Bikes plus seven, even six and a half, Titans minus
35:39
Speaker 1: three and a half, Steelers plus three and a half,
35:41
Speaker 1: Chieps minus five. We will evaluate these on Sunday. Watch
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Speaker 1: I love this man so much. Bob Scucci, how are you, Jed.
38:30
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thank you for inviting me back on
38:32
Speaker 1: the show. And I didn't realize how much I missed this.
38:35
Speaker 1: You did, right, You totally miss being on the show. Yeah,
38:38
Speaker 1: I did. I texted you a few weeks ago and
38:40
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm just thinking about you and
38:43
Speaker 1: the show, and I can't believe it's been that long
38:44
Speaker 1: since Uh, no, I haven't been on it. Well, listen,
38:47
Speaker 1: you could have been on forever. And the truth is,
38:50
Speaker 1: if you stayed on, then our our new co host,
38:54
Speaker 1: professional better, Simon Hunter, he wouldn't have been able to
38:57
Speaker 1: be on the show, or the three of us would
39:00
Speaker 1: have been on the show and we could have like
39:02
Speaker 1: we could have been the new Three Amigos. Simon. Let's
39:05
Speaker 1: say hello to Bob Scucci. Hello Bob, and there's still
39:08
Speaker 1: an open seat. If Bob ever finds he's got enough
39:10
Speaker 1: free time to come back and he wants to make
39:12
Speaker 1: it three Amigoes. I would love that you get a
39:14
Speaker 1: pro perspective, a bookmaker perspective, and whatever the hell Chad does.
39:20
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty tending. Boy. I gotta consider that. Well, well, Simon,
39:23
Speaker 1: you're you're doing a fantastic job. So I don't know
39:26
Speaker 1: if I could live up to that by coming back
39:28
Speaker 1: on the show. Listen, we're thrilled you're on. It's the
39:30
Speaker 1: last show of the year. Obviously one have been crazy
39:35
Speaker 1: around the world. People managing it as best they can,
39:39
Speaker 1: but it has been there. There are specific questions we
39:42
Speaker 1: want to ask you. It has been insane for sports
39:45
Speaker 1: betting the last two years. Obviously, so many states legalizing,
39:49
Speaker 1: more people being introduced to gambling. Simon is going to
39:51
Speaker 1: kick it off with his first question. I know you've
39:54
Speaker 1: been in the business a long time since the eighties.
39:57
Speaker 1: Could you ever envisioned you'd have back to back months
40:00
Speaker 1: of taking in a billion dollars in bets at the
40:02
Speaker 1: sports books in Las Vegas. No. You know a lot
40:05
Speaker 1: of my colleagues and I used to talk about whenever
40:08
Speaker 1: we would legalize sports betting around the country and how
40:12
Speaker 1: that would affect Las Vegas and all the different scenarios
40:14
Speaker 1: that we kind of thought of. It's not panning out
40:18
Speaker 1: in any way that we envisioned it. It's much better
40:22
Speaker 1: and different than than we imagined it. I mean, the
40:25
Speaker 1: different players involved in everything. But in Las Vegas we
40:28
Speaker 1: benefited just as much as all the other states that
40:31
Speaker 1: have legalized sports betting around the country. So No, to
40:35
Speaker 1: answer the question, I never would have envisioned it as
40:38
Speaker 1: as massive and as big and as popular as it is.
40:42
Speaker 1: Uh exceeded all my expectations. Scoot, you are the bookmaker
40:46
Speaker 1: of the world. At least you always were. I have
40:50
Speaker 1: a follow up question of what you just said, which
40:51
Speaker 1: is you and I obviously we've known each other for
40:55
Speaker 1: more than twenty years. Like when we started doing this
40:58
Speaker 1: podcast together, it was because when I wrote The Odds,
41:00
Speaker 1: when I reported The Odds, it was about the guys
41:03
Speaker 1: at the start ust were you one of the bookmakers,
41:05
Speaker 1: and you told the best stories and had the best
41:07
Speaker 1: way of translating what was happening behind the counter for
41:11
Speaker 1: the common man. Ten years ago, eleven years ago, I
41:14
Speaker 1: was in Vegas. I was doing a story for East
41:16
Speaker 1: six D and ESPN, and I said to you, what
41:18
Speaker 1: happens if it becomes legal? And you said, it's like
41:21
Speaker 1: Disney World. People will do it in their state and
41:24
Speaker 1: then they want to come to Nevada and experience it
41:27
Speaker 1: for real. So you say, it's different than how you
41:29
Speaker 1: imagined it. What did you imagine it would be? I
41:32
Speaker 1: remember that vividly. I compared gambling to kind of your
41:35
Speaker 1: local amusement park with a roller coaster and introducing people
41:40
Speaker 1: to the amusement park and then eventually they want to
41:42
Speaker 1: go to Disney World. But um, that was really before, uh,
41:47
Speaker 1: the the explosion of mobile and online wagering. That's really
41:51
Speaker 1: the part that has exploded even more so than retail.
41:54
Speaker 1: So it's different than just opening up a retail sports
41:59
Speaker 1: book physical sports book in in a casino or racetrack
42:03
Speaker 1: or or an arena. The online business is really where
42:08
Speaker 1: all all the money is and all the explosion is.
42:11
Speaker 1: What about in game? Remember we talked about that all
42:13
Speaker 1: the time too, and you were trying to figure out
42:15
Speaker 1: is it gonna matter, what's it gonna be? It was
42:17
Speaker 1: huge in Europe. I remember you once made fun of
42:20
Speaker 1: me for thinking it was such a big deal. Yeah,
42:25
Speaker 1: it's still I mean, it's still growing. And uh, that's
42:29
Speaker 1: probably another area I underestimate. It Probably didn't see as
42:34
Speaker 1: much value in football as there is because of the
42:38
Speaker 1: fast pace of the game, and I thought maybe people
42:41
Speaker 1: would be too engrossed in watching the game to kind
42:43
Speaker 1: of move away to start betting during the game on
42:46
Speaker 1: specific props. And I think to some extent that's still true.
42:50
Speaker 1: I think because most of the in game wagering is
42:53
Speaker 1: still on just who's gonna win the game and the total,
42:55
Speaker 1: whether the total is gonna go over or under, So
42:58
Speaker 1: a lot of the hundreds of different prop that you know,
43:00
Speaker 1: we now offer, I still think the majority is just
43:04
Speaker 1: who's gonna win the game. We've seen sports books now
43:06
Speaker 1: about to really not just fully upgrade their sports books.
43:09
Speaker 1: They're really I mean they're doing amazing stuff now, especially
43:11
Speaker 1: in Vegas. We've got sports books are outdoor pool bars
43:14
Speaker 1: and big screens and everything like that. Where do you
43:17
Speaker 1: see it going in ten years? Like? Is it going
43:19
Speaker 1: to keep getting even bigger and more glamorous? Are we
43:21
Speaker 1: gonna have a two billion dollar month for Las Vegas?
43:25
Speaker 1: Like these things don't feel like they're that far off,
43:27
Speaker 1: you know, five ten years away. There's no plateau ng
43:30
Speaker 1: in the UH in the growing of sports betting. I mean,
43:33
Speaker 1: even during the pandemic. I mean we've had two of
43:35
Speaker 1: the biggest years in terms of gross sports bets in
43:40
Speaker 1: Nevada during the pandemic one and and you hit the
43:44
Speaker 1: nail on the head with kind of the immersive experience
43:47
Speaker 1: of sports betting. It's more than just placing a bet
43:50
Speaker 1: and that's it. You have kind of the whole experience.
43:54
Speaker 1: We the traditional sports book in Las Vegas from twenty
43:57
Speaker 1: years ago, this giant, cavernous place enclosed with screens and seats,
44:03
Speaker 1: that's kind of going away and being replaced with kind
44:07
Speaker 1: of a lounge kind of uh an experience where you
44:11
Speaker 1: could come with your buddies and and have food and drink,
44:14
Speaker 1: watch the game, make bets. It's kind of this whole
44:17
Speaker 1: fluid area where it's kind of an open space part
44:20
Speaker 1: of the casino or part of the arena, or part
44:22
Speaker 1: of the racetrack wherever the retail betting is. So I
44:27
Speaker 1: think we have just keep transitioning. People are receiving it
44:31
Speaker 1: very well, and we're getting more and more people that
44:34
Speaker 1: didn't make wagers before, so we're expanding the demographics. Scooch,
44:39
Speaker 1: you're a big executive at Boy Gaming. Uh, it's why
44:43
Speaker 1: you stopped doing the podcast is because your job was
44:45
Speaker 1: changing and you felt like you weren't as connected to
44:47
Speaker 1: the games, and you weren't making lines, and you know,
44:50
Speaker 1: you weren't sort of part of the day to day
44:52
Speaker 1: process of making the numbers. How much do you miss
44:54
Speaker 1: making the numbers? That's the part I missed the absolute most.
44:59
Speaker 1: And I'm not even kidding you know. We've partnered with
45:02
Speaker 1: with fan Duel for uh our non Nevada sports books,
45:06
Speaker 1: So we have twenty sports books now across seven states,
45:09
Speaker 1: and we leverage the you know, the FanDuel trading team,
45:13
Speaker 1: the Flutter trading team, and I talked with those guys
45:16
Speaker 1: all the time. That's the part that I miss, And
45:19
Speaker 1: there's just this excitement even when I talk about it,
45:21
Speaker 1: and we when I when I meet with those guys
45:23
Speaker 1: and I talked with the trading team, I'm like, you know,
45:26
Speaker 1: that's the part I miss. And they even realize it
45:29
Speaker 1: because they say, boy, your eyes just light up and
45:31
Speaker 1: you seem like so excited when you talk about this.
45:33
Speaker 1: I mean, there's an excitement into the new area of
45:36
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm looking at, you know, strategic partnerships
45:40
Speaker 1: and moving into new states and I'm dealing with legislators
45:42
Speaker 1: and regulators and all the new states, and that's new
45:45
Speaker 1: and that's different. But the bookmaking is is exciting. That's
45:48
Speaker 1: really I mean, that's what kept me in the business
45:50
Speaker 1: all these years, and that's really the part I missed
45:53
Speaker 1: the most. How often when you're talking to you and Fandol,
45:57
Speaker 1: who is our sponsor by the way, and this is
45:59
Speaker 1: just coincidence, you're talking to the trading team, you know
46:02
Speaker 1: that they're using all this analysis, all this math, all
46:05
Speaker 1: these algorithms, and you're coming in just knowing it instinctively
46:09
Speaker 1: what it should be. How often are you on the
46:12
Speaker 1: same side or the same, like, how close are the
46:15
Speaker 1: numbers when you guys are sort of having these conversations
46:17
Speaker 1: between what you know of when you can do it
46:20
Speaker 1: with a pencil and paper and three consultants, versus what
46:23
Speaker 1: they're doing with millions of billions of dollars in algorithms.
46:26
Speaker 1: They're really close, especially in the major in the major sports,
46:31
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking NFL, they're right there, you know
46:34
Speaker 1: where where I can't be involved as much as you know,
46:38
Speaker 1: all the other sports. I mean, we're booking more sports
46:41
Speaker 1: than we've ever booked before, so you can't. It can't
46:44
Speaker 1: be in tune to everything. But as far as the
46:47
Speaker 1: you know, NFL and a lot of the major college
46:50
Speaker 1: football games, uh, right there. I still have the ability
46:54
Speaker 1: to change what is being recommended or what's being sent
46:59
Speaker 1: by buy a particular data feed, so I can detach
47:03
Speaker 1: from that feed, and I do more and more rarely now.
47:07
Speaker 1: But you know, Super Bowl and some of the big
47:09
Speaker 1: games where you do want to have a position, we
47:12
Speaker 1: still do that. You sound like a fucking sellout. I
47:19
Speaker 1: just simply don't have the time to do it for
47:21
Speaker 1: on every on every game. I mean it's when you're
47:24
Speaker 1: across twenty sports books in seven different states. You have
47:28
Speaker 1: to have a trading team of you know, a hundred people.
47:31
Speaker 1: You keep hiring hiring, hiring, or you know, you you
47:34
Speaker 1: leverage what's already out there, so it's being more efficient.
47:38
Speaker 1: But I always wondered, you're you're working never really end,
47:41
Speaker 1: especially when you were a bookmaker. Ore times when you
47:44
Speaker 1: would go home, and a lot of professionals like me,
47:45
Speaker 1: we like betting from midnight to three am in Vegas.
47:48
Speaker 1: That's our favorite time to come and make bets. How
47:50
Speaker 1: many times have you been woken up and people ask
47:52
Speaker 1: you can we take this guy's money? Some random guy
47:55
Speaker 1: just walked in. You've seen the little buzz which again
47:58
Speaker 1: it's an act. A lot of us will walk in
47:59
Speaker 1: there were acting we're a little drunk. We'll make big
48:01
Speaker 1: bets just to get the bookmakers to take our money.
48:03
Speaker 1: How many times have you been woking up on those
48:05
Speaker 1: phone calls Saturday night, some guys trying to make some
48:07
Speaker 1: big bet for someday morning football games. I would keep
48:11
Speaker 1: my phone next to the bed and and just wait.
48:15
Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of a very restless sleep,
48:17
Speaker 1: especially Friday Saturday nights before the big games, and just
48:20
Speaker 1: wait and just wait for the phone, and you knew
48:22
Speaker 1: it was going to ring, So it was it was
48:24
Speaker 1: basically every weekend and all the time. And to that
48:28
Speaker 1: extent even now, because we now across all the states
48:33
Speaker 1: that we're in. We'll have a guy that wants to
48:36
Speaker 1: bet two million on a on a particular college football game,
48:40
Speaker 1: or three million or or something that's ten to one.
48:43
Speaker 1: It wants a better million that pays ten million. I'll
48:45
Speaker 1: get the call, and then you have to make a
48:48
Speaker 1: decision like right away in some instances, and so you
48:51
Speaker 1: have to always be available. And I'm still to that extent,
48:55
Speaker 1: I'm still doing that. It's less and less frequent because
48:57
Speaker 1: the size of the wagers that require my my call
49:01
Speaker 1: are much greater, but but I'm still doing that. So
49:05
Speaker 1: that that Simon, that's a phenomenal question, you know, Scooch.
49:09
Speaker 1: Back then, if someone's calling you and it's about the
49:11
Speaker 1: stardust or whatever, it's fifty times or it's a hundred grand,
49:15
Speaker 1: and now you're saying it could be multiple millions, but
49:17
Speaker 1: you still got to do the same calculus in your
49:19
Speaker 1: head in the middle of the night when you're just
49:21
Speaker 1: waking up, how are you determining what are the questions
49:23
Speaker 1: you're asking to decide, all right, we're willing to take
49:26
Speaker 1: this better not. The first one is is he getting
49:30
Speaker 1: a good line? Is he is he taking advantage of
49:32
Speaker 1: a real good line? Or is it pretty solid? If
49:34
Speaker 1: it's a three everywhere in the country, I feel pretty
49:38
Speaker 1: good about taking the bet. If we're at two and
49:40
Speaker 1: a half, we let's say we just went to two
49:42
Speaker 1: and a half and everyone else in the country is
49:44
Speaker 1: at three, or it's a stale line, or maybe we
49:47
Speaker 1: didn't move it quick enough something like that, I'd be
49:50
Speaker 1: less inclined. And then who who's making the wager? Is
49:53
Speaker 1: it a celebrity, is it somebody like you know? Is
49:56
Speaker 1: it one of the well known billionaires that like to
50:00
Speaker 1: make wagers? You know? So who it is, what the
50:03
Speaker 1: line is? Those are the major factors. And the added
50:06
Speaker 1: factor that I have to consider now is the property
50:09
Speaker 1: at which the bets being taken, Because you can't think
50:12
Speaker 1: of it as just as global operation where all the
50:14
Speaker 1: money goes into one pool. Whatever casino is taking the bed.
50:17
Speaker 1: If it's a retail cash wager, then that casino is
50:21
Speaker 1: on the hook. So in some instances it could be
50:24
Speaker 1: a really small casino that only does maybe five or
50:27
Speaker 1: ten million a year in Ibadah, and you're taking a
50:30
Speaker 1: bet that's gonna wipe out the profits for the entire
50:33
Speaker 1: year on that casino. Well, then we have to kind
50:36
Speaker 1: of come up with an alternate plan there. Maybe we
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Speaker 1: are able to kind of split up the bets somehow
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Speaker 1: into into one of our other properties, if there's another
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Speaker 1: property in the state, something like that. But these are
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Speaker 1: all the things that I have to consider. Anybody who
50:50
Speaker 1: had the parlay of Scooch saying strategy and ibada on
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Speaker 1: this podcast, cam gratus As, I'm like, you know, I'm
51:04
Speaker 1: just thinking about you and me sitting like at that
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Speaker 1: crappy restaurant in the Mirage, sweating games on a Saturday night,
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Speaker 1: or going places that we're not allowed to talk about
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Speaker 1: on the podcast that I wouldn't even write about in
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Speaker 1: the book. And like, now I got fucking Scooch talking
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Speaker 1: about strategy and ebitda. Yeah, when you talk about how
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Speaker 1: I would have been visioned it twenty years ago, that's
51:31
Speaker 1: another area that I think I handicapped wrong. Jeez, I
51:34
Speaker 1: don't even know why we're asking your questions. You got
51:36
Speaker 1: it all wrong. Unbelievable, Matt Mitchell, since Scooch was your
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Speaker 1: inspiration for leaving your stable job with a young baby
51:42
Speaker 1: and a bride and getting into the audio business. I
51:45
Speaker 1: do want you to ask Scoots the one question we
51:47
Speaker 1: talked about before we jumped on Scooch. One of my
51:51
Speaker 1: favorite stories you ever told on the podcast What's Right? Uh,
51:58
Speaker 1: the public had an unusually good week in something like
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Speaker 1: week fourteen, somewhere right in the pre Christmas window, and
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Speaker 1: you shared that you actually hated when the public had
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Speaker 1: great weeks in the one or two weeks leading up
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Speaker 1: to Christmas, because instead of with with disdain in your voice,
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Speaker 1: you let us know that instead of reinvesting it in
52:20
Speaker 1: bets the next week or rolling it over to Monday night,
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Speaker 1: they would do the disgusting thing and spend it on
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Speaker 1: Christmas presents for themselves, their children, their loved ones. So
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Speaker 1: that you you actually preferred weeks seventeen or the or
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Speaker 1: the earlier weeks. Is that still the case? It's absolutely
52:37
Speaker 1: And I actually said that two weeks ago because that
52:40
Speaker 1: we had one of our worst weeks of the entire
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Speaker 1: NFL season just before Christmas, and I was like, son
52:46
Speaker 1: of a bit, we're not going to get that money back.
52:51
Speaker 1: It was the first thing I thought of when it
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Speaker 1: happened somewhere Bob Scucci's mad I texted my guys and
52:59
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the worst time this could
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Speaker 1: have happened, Like the week before, the Sunday before Christmas?
53:04
Speaker 1: I said, are you kidding me? Excuse before you go,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you to make a scooch roulette pick.
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Speaker 1: Are you ready? Wow? Off the cup? Huh? Off the cuff.
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Speaker 1: Simon has uh the Steelers plus three and a half.
53:23
Speaker 1: I have Tennessee minus three and a half. You can
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Speaker 1: make your choice from any other uh, any other games? Well,
53:31
Speaker 1: I do like Tennessee, so that that would have been
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Speaker 1: the one that I would have picked. Two bad sucker,
53:39
Speaker 1: I will go. I will go with the Packers because
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Speaker 1: they are just as hot as you can be. The
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Speaker 1: Vikings they just fall apart in the fourth quarter. Even
53:49
Speaker 1: if they do keep it close, they can't close a game.
53:52
Speaker 1: And going against the Packers, I don't think they have
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Speaker 1: a chance. What are you surprisingly square pick from you?
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Speaker 1: I knew that was coming. This is a classic divisional matchup.
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Speaker 1: A Vikings team that plays up to the to the
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Speaker 1: caliber of their opponents, a Packers team that has played
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Speaker 1: incredible against the spread there due for regression. I am shocked.
54:16
Speaker 1: I feel like you're laying a trap. You're you're asking
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Speaker 1: all of our listeners about the packers because because you
54:21
Speaker 1: know you're gonna need the vikings. Wow. Wow, that's really cynical.
54:26
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's been a weird fucking year, scitch.
54:28
Speaker 1: I don't know to tell you. Since you left, I've
54:30
Speaker 1: lost my warmth and Simon has turned me into an evil, evil,
54:33
Speaker 1: cynical bastard. I could see that. I could see that
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Speaker 1: that's your pick. That's your pick. I'll stick with it
54:41
Speaker 1: all right. Listen, Bob Scucci. It's like the o G
54:47
Speaker 1: of sports betting, going back too far, going back too
54:51
Speaker 1: far with me. Simon loves you, Matt Mitchell. You changed
54:54
Speaker 1: his life. You have changed life for so many people
54:56
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. They don't even know it. All
54:58
Speaker 1: of our new listeners don't even oh how you are
55:01
Speaker 1: the influence for this podcast. We thank you, we love you.
55:05
Speaker 1: We wish you and your family a happy new year.
55:08
Speaker 1: Here's to being together in twenty two. Thank you so much. Well,
55:11
Speaker 1: that that was really nice. I really appreciate all the
55:14
Speaker 1: nice words. And there was an honor to be here
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Speaker 1: with you, guys. I appreciate it. God, we love Bob Scucci.
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Speaker 1: Our thanks to Bob Scucci, bookmaker to the world. This
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Speaker 1: has been the Favorites until we meet again on Tuesday
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. For Simon Hunter, I am Chad Milnan.
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