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The Late Debate | 15 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: When man.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Base.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 3: with Holly Hughes and Joe Hildebrand. He's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 3: We talked to the other night about how ex Adelaide
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  Speaker 3: United soccer player Josh Cavarlo said he couldn't get a
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  Speaker 3: game because the club was homophobic, so he had to
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  Speaker 3: move overseas well, Adelaide United's captain has had something to
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  Speaker 3: say about it. Turns out the story isn't quite how
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  Speaker 3: Cavarlo made it out to be. What a surprise. Volunteers
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  Speaker 3: for TiAl candidates are outraged because other volunteers working the
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  Speaker 3: pole booths during the federal election didn't want to eat
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  Speaker 3: their lollies and shook their hands too vigorously. No, I
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  Speaker 3: am not joking. More on that later, and an Australian
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  Speaker 3: Dakar rally champion says he's going to continue the race
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  Speaker 3: despite crashing and breaking his collar bone. You cannot get
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  Speaker 3: much more oussy than that. But first, speaking of things
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  Speaker 3: that are really ozsy, complaining about speed limits. I now
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  Speaker 3: I like to complain about speedims because I think they're
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  Speaker 3: too slow. Most of the time. But it turns out
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  Speaker 3: there are some people who think they are too fast.
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  Speaker 3: Weird people admittedly anyway. But down in Melbourne, in Springvale South,
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  Speaker 3: they have some phantom sign person going around trying to
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  Speaker 3: lower the speed limit artificially. Now this started six months
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  Speaker 3: ago apparently when someone made up a U turn sign,
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  Speaker 3: a homemade U turn sign which I believe we've got
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  Speaker 3: an image of you here that you can have a
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  Speaker 3: look at, and stuck it up on the road somewhere
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  Speaker 3: and said you couldn't do a U turn here. Now
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  Speaker 3: they've come back, that sign was taken down. They've come
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  Speaker 3: back now put up all these signs saying slow down,
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  Speaker 3: and they've tried to reduce with a fake sign the
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  Speaker 3: speed limit of an eighty kilometer in our road to
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  Speaker 3: forty kilometers an hour. So the neighbors have had to
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  Speaker 3: go out and take these signs down. You can see
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  Speaker 3: there on the screen there some of these you see
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  Speaker 3: that it's forty and then the actual eighty sign right now.
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  Speaker 3: You can imagine what that would be like as a
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  Speaker 3: driver when you see this forty kilometer in our sign,
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  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden it says eighty. You wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: know what the hill's going on. So this is all
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  Speaker 3: meant to be to, I don't know, make the place safer,
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  Speaker 3: but you'd think that would actually make it far more
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  Speaker 3: dangerous because you go forty eighty up. Now what for
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  Speaker 3: these people who want to make an eighty kilometer on
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  Speaker 3: our road forty? It's slow enough as it is.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you that looks like driving through
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  Speaker 4: the Blue Mountains or Clovermoor, Sydney.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's exactly what happens already.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you go from sixty to forty and then
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  Speaker 4: up to fifty and down to forty, and it's constantly.
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  Speaker 5: And it's revenue raising.
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  Speaker 2: Revenue raising. This is what I had to do. So
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  Speaker 2: driving in here this evening, and as you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: very familiar with speed limits. You're very well versed. I've
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  Speaker 2: done a lot of hands on field research and but yes,
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  Speaker 2: so Clover Moore fairly recently, a few years ago, has
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  Speaker 2: lowered all the speed limits in the city and surrounds
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  Speaker 2: to forty. And what they do you go in You're
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  Speaker 2: on Paramatta Road aka the Great Western Highway. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a backstreet, it's not a lane way with a little
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  Speaker 2: espresso bar. And people's hips is sitting on milk crates.
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  Speaker 2: It's a main road and it goes down to fifty
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  Speaker 2: and bang there's a speed camera as soon as it
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  Speaker 2: goes to fifty. And then it goes to forty just
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  Speaker 2: outside Central Station and bang there's a speed camera. So
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  Speaker 2: I have a theory. I grew up actually just down
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  Speaker 2: the road from Springvale South, So just about literally three
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  Speaker 2: four stops on the train line south of Springvale is
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  Speaker 2: downing on where I grew up, and I can tell
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  Speaker 2: you there is no one in that area who's going
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  Speaker 2: around doing this. I think Clover Moore has gone. I
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  Speaker 2: think Clover Moore has taken her speed campaign national and
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  Speaker 2: I think she's flown down on South. She's just going
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  Speaker 2: to start at the bottom and work her way up
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  Speaker 2: oh Lots Road.
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  Speaker 4: Today, coming past Sydney Quicker Ground in the stadium, I
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  Speaker 4: realize it was forty and I saw it today and
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  Speaker 4: I thought there might go some points. Hope it's not
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  Speaker 4: double demerits this weekend. I mean I was only going
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  Speaker 4: sort of about forty eight.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but you know it's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: Wife, they did catch me. My wife was driving the car.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, wait until Clover gets away up to Bratton
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  Speaker 3: or we've big troubling. But there's another one as well well.
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  Speaker 3: The way I've been coming into the studio here and
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  Speaker 3: you sort of come up towards Central Station, but the
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  Speaker 3: road is fifty and then it becomes forty at some
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  Speaker 3: point and you're halfway through the forty zone before you
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  Speaker 3: realize it's changed to footage. What is with this obsession
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  Speaker 3: with making everything forty kilometers worse? There are suburbs in
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  Speaker 3: Melbourne now where I think Collingwood and a few of
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  Speaker 3: those other suburbs just just north of the city.
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  Speaker 2: They made him thirty Collingwood where the mayor is an
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  Speaker 2: actual literal card carrying socialist.
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  Speaker 5: Which all of Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: The Red Army didn't move at thirty kilometers an hour.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they did it first, and the Americans gave
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  Speaker 2: them all their tanks. But it is, it is. It
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  Speaker 2: is stagrid because it is clearly, just like it is
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  Speaker 2: hard to get a decent car, a real man's car,
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  Speaker 2: to go a thirty kilometers you are constantly breaking pulling
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  Speaker 2: it back, and you know, looking at the speed to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that you're not creeping over and getting pinged
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  Speaker 2: by the camera that you know that they've put there,
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  Speaker 2: and that means you're not watching the road and driving
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  Speaker 2: like a normal, sane person.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's apparently for the pedestrians, because the pedestrians is
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  Speaker 3: safe if you drive. So, but what are the pedestrians
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  Speaker 3: doing walking in the middle of the bloody traffic in
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  Speaker 3: the first place. Well, and I mean, if you've got
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  Speaker 3: to walk out onto an eighty kilometer an hour road
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  Speaker 3: and you get bowled over, it's your own fault.
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  Speaker 5: But so who are these people putting up the science?
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  Speaker 5: Do they know or is.
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  Speaker 4: It just like because you remember there was a mystery
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  Speaker 4: poet jog the giant boot. Is that sort of like
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  Speaker 4: the next thing put.
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  Speaker 5: They're not poping in people's yards anymore. They're changing space.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, there's no public minutes.
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  Speaker 3: There are environmental vandals too, because some of the signs
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  Speaker 3: they put up they bolted them into a big gum tree,
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  Speaker 3: so the poor old gum tree had to you can
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  Speaker 3: see it there. Why do you have to do it
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  Speaker 3: to the gum tree? By the way, you can be
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  Speaker 3: fined one thy two hundred and twenty one dollars in
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  Speaker 3: Victoria for putting up false traffic signs. So hopefully they
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  Speaker 3: catch them. Get what sort of bastard tries to do that?
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  Speaker 2: And also if you're going to spike trees, have the
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  Speaker 2: decency to move to Sydney and to get that's our
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  Speaker 2: that's our intellect.
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  Speaker 3: So you've got that's right.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, we've got big news of the day
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  Speaker 4: is the hate speech laws that Anthony Albanezi is trying
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  Speaker 4: to bring in next week as he's recalled Parliament.
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  Speaker 5: And we may be in trouble if these hate speech
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  Speaker 5: claws go through.
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  Speaker 4: For now saying what we've said about people that put
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  Speaker 4: up fakes space science, because that is the issue with
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  Speaker 4: this legislation is that it is absolutely failing to pick
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  Speaker 4: up what we all know is the problem. It's not
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  Speaker 4: addressing the issues of radical Islam. It is not addressing
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  Speaker 4: the hate speech that we heard from the IMMAs after
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  Speaker 4: October seventh. In fact, in five hundred pages of legislation,
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  Speaker 4: it does not mention radical Islam. And as Susan Lay
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  Speaker 4: said today, if you can't mention it, you can't fix it.
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  Speaker 4: So Susan was absolutely on fire with her commentary today
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  Speaker 4: and I think we've got a couple of grabs here
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  Speaker 4: what she said.
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  Speaker 6: The legislation does not address the real issues that gave
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  Speaker 6: rise to the Bondai attack. It doesn't address Islamic extremism,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't address isis influence, and it doesn't address the
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  Speaker 6: rise of anti Semitism and the associated terrorist threat in
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  Speaker 6: austrain The Attorney General's Department couldn't tell us if phrases
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  Speaker 6: like globalize, the Interfada or from the river to the
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  Speaker 6: sea would be captured by this law. Officials couldn't even
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  Speaker 6: answer whether a fatwah preached by an Islamic extremist was
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  Speaker 6: classified as a religious text.
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  Speaker 5: And this just shows the problem with this proposed legislation.
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  Speaker 4: It is absolutely refusing to address what every Australian knows
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  Speaker 4: is the core issue, what led to the rise of
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  Speaker 4: anti Semitism, and how these things need to be to address.
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  Speaker 4: Now we've discussed last night, and perhaps I was a
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  Speaker 4: little bit cynical, and I maintained that cynicism, I must say,
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  Speaker 4: in alban easy bundling together the hate speech legislation with
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  Speaker 4: the gun reforms as a bid to divide the coalition,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that the National Party would object to the gun
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  Speaker 4: law reforms. Gun law reforms, by the way that most
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  Speaker 4: state governments are saying they will not be implementing again.
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  Speaker 4: This will be failed legislation. Now, some people that have
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  Speaker 4: been trying to back in alban Easy, desperately trying to
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  Speaker 4: cling to stuff, have said, oh, look, Susan Lee want
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  Speaker 4: a Parliament record and now she's not going to support
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  Speaker 4: the legislation they've put forward. Legislation generally takes a few
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  Speaker 4: months to put together, to make sure unintended consequences are
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  Speaker 4: ironed out, that stakeholders get to have a say. That
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  Speaker 4: was why she wanted Parliament to come back to start
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  Speaker 4: the legislative process, rather than have an inquiry run over
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  Speaker 4: three or four days that then has to report back
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  Speaker 4: with legislation then coming through straight away on the Monday.
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  Speaker 4: It is better to not put legislation in that is
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  Speaker 4: going to cause more problems than it solves.
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  Speaker 5: And we know that this legislation is not going to
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  Speaker 5: solve the problem that we know.
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  Speaker 3: You're there, I know, and it's to try and ram
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  Speaker 3: it through. You already have hate speech laws that have
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  Speaker 3: not really been you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they haven't been tested.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and to try to ram this through so quickly
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  Speaker 3: does a disservice to victims of anti Semitism. I think
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  Speaker 3: it does a disservice to the public because when you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about, as they are suggesting in this draft build
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  Speaker 3: that has been sent out, that it would be illegal
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  Speaker 3: to promote or incite hatred, racial nationality, color grounds, whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and to what is promote And the reason for that
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  Speaker 3: is that someone feels intimidated by it. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is that physically intimidated or they just feel like, well,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps people don't like me. You don't actually have to
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  Speaker 3: prove that you have caused any of that harm. It's
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  Speaker 3: just that there is a likelihood that you could promote
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  Speaker 3: or incite that. So, as far as I can tell,
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  Speaker 3: that would mean I'm going to use a few racial
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  Speaker 3: stereotypes here to make the point right. If someone said
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  Speaker 3: I think all Indians should be deported from the country,
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  Speaker 3: that now or would become a crime, as far as
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  Speaker 3: I can tell, five years in prison. But at the moment,
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  Speaker 3: if someone said I think all Indians should be deported,
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  Speaker 3: it's a mate, You're a dicket, and that's how it
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  Speaker 3: should be. But the law would now say you can
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  Speaker 3: be put away in the slammer for five years. If
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  Speaker 3: someone said, again, I'm doing this to illustrate the point.
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  Speaker 3: If I came out on television and said Asians can't drive,
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  Speaker 3: that would be, which is a common racial stereotype. Five
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  Speaker 3: years in prison you could get for that. Now, that
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  Speaker 3: is the sort of thing that at the moment might
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  Speaker 3: get me in a lot of trouble. I might lose
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  Speaker 3: my job over it. Fair enough, But should you get
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  Speaker 3: five years in prison for saying those things?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think this just underscores how difficult it is
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  Speaker 2: to police or regulate speech, and this is why there's
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  Speaker 2: not really been any successful attempt to reform it since
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  Speaker 2: you know, AIGHTE and C was first form decades ago.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, just to clarify, five years is the maximum.
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  Speaker 2: That would be the most extreme thing where you are
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  Speaker 2: obviously saying that these people should be killed. If say
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  Speaker 2: a crazy radical pro Palestinian activist said the only good,
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  Speaker 2: the only good Israeli is dead, is right, correct, that
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  Speaker 2: would obviously be at the higher end. But again, this
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  Speaker 2: is this is the problem, And I think what Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Alberanezi is doing is saying, if you like, you tell
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  Speaker 2: me you told me this is all my fault because
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  Speaker 2: I didn't fix it. He told me. This is you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've got blood on my hands because I allowed anti
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  Speaker 2: Semitism to fester in Australia. Will here are all these
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  Speaker 2: measures to stop antisemitism and to stop people from being able.
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  Speaker 5: To depressing anti semity.
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  Speaker 2: To act on it. And now you're saying, oh, it's
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  Speaker 2: too hard, it's too short.
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  Speaker 4: He does radically lamp. He doesn't mention radical Islam. He's
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  Speaker 4: now making carve outs with regards to text and never
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  Speaker 4: references the Quran, but talks about the Old Testament. This
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  Speaker 4: is a guy who's still chasing votes just Southwest Sydney,
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  Speaker 4: who cannot get out of his own way.
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  Speaker 2: But there are other like there are Anglicans who raised
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  Speaker 2: concerns about their not being the.
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  Speaker 5: Anglic Cans are really at risk of getting on the bridge. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: so do you became the Cans a lot more likely
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  Speaker 5: to bring out the tea and scones.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think we're in any about the Anglicans.
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  Speaker 2: So you're talking about you want laws that only target Muslims.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that we know that the cause of
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  Speaker 4: what occurred at Bondi was radical Islam. Five hundred pages
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  Speaker 4: of legislation supposed to address this very issue don't even
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  Speaker 4: mention radical Islam when you are creating the carveouts of
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  Speaker 4: religious text and with the deliberate strategy there that the
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  Speaker 4: Quran can be absolutely said and there's nothing understand those
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  Speaker 4: people who stood and celebrated October seventh quoting the Quran,
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  Speaker 4: what is.
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  Speaker 2: Your solution, Well, that carve out for all religious texts
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  Speaker 2: except the Kur.
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  Speaker 4: But we don't need this at all, We don't need
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  Speaker 4: it religious hate. If they're an Australian citizen and they
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  Speaker 4: call for the destruction of a race or they celebration,
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  Speaker 4: Christians have come out, not an Australian citizen, deport them,
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  Speaker 4: end of story.
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  Speaker 2: You understand that other religious leaders, like Christian leaders, other
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  Speaker 2: leaders have come out and said, no, we need these
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  Speaker 2: carve out sure, okay for our religious So the question
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  Speaker 2: is do you have a.
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  Speaker 4: Car you know what if you're If you're I will say,
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  Speaker 4: if you've stood up and celebrated October seventh and call
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  Speaker 4: for the destruction of Israel and Jews and absolutely applauded
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  Speaker 4: the rape and murder of women and children, if you're
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  Speaker 4: an Australian citizen, you should have been arrested. If you're
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  Speaker 4: not an Australian citizen. You should have been deported. But
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  Speaker 4: how we solve hate, don't don't all hug each other,
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  Speaker 4: Just get.
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  Speaker 5: Rid of them.
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  Speaker 3: As long as you as long but as long as
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  Speaker 3: as long as you say that you're doing it because
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  Speaker 3: the Koran or any other Texas you can do it,
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  Speaker 3: then it's okay. It doesn't actually.
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  Speaker 5: Calling if that while they can't even say whether that's.
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  Speaker 3: And also to be fair, when even when even the
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  Speaker 3: UN so the UN Special Report tore on Human Rights,
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  Speaker 3: is saying that this legislation goes too far into of
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  Speaker 3: curbing free speech.
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  Speaker 4: Like miss Albert, something's actually speaking against there's something going
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  Speaker 4: on that's right.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, we've just spent.
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  Speaker 5: But should buddling him up?
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  Speaker 4: Just help me with my cynicism here? Why is he
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  Speaker 4: bundling up the gun legislation with the speech legend.
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  Speaker 5: I think because he's the omnibus. It doesn't need to
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  Speaker 5: be an omnibus.
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  Speaker 2: No, But I think he's I think again, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a bit of an few.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, well, that's a really good thing for.
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  Speaker 2: A but that's exactly that is exactly very much, that
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  Speaker 2: is exactly what he has.
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  Speaker 5: He's a week later, and he's demonstrating.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what the right side of politics have said about
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  Speaker 2: you haven't done enough, but you haven't done anything, proving
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  Speaker 2: I haven't done anything. Here's everything. Suddenly, you guys are
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  Speaker 2: all fighting amongst yourself.
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  Speaker 3: We deserve, we deserve speak anyway matters speaking.
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  Speaker 2: Of people who are absolutely weak as pissed. The Adelaide
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  Speaker 2: Writers Festival has just reconsidered its decision to disin Randa
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  Speaker 2: Abdolphatar Adelaide Writers Week. This is the biggest dumpster fire
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  Speaker 2: I think I have ever seen in my many long
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  Speaker 2: years of watching dumpster fires. These guys, Honestly, it's like
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  Speaker 2: that old joke. These are my principles and if you
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  Speaker 2: don't like them, I have others. So just to rewind
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  Speaker 2: in case of living under a rock, the board of
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  Speaker 2: the Adelaide Writers Week rescinded an invitation to Randa Abdolphatar,
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  Speaker 2: who is a anti Israel activist academic who has said
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  Speaker 2: some incredibly inflammatory things, including calling for an end to
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  Speaker 2: the state of Israel, participating in the doxing of Jewish creatives,
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  Speaker 2: and also calling for and just doesn't get any richer
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  Speaker 2: than this, another Jewish guy to be disinvited from the
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  Speaker 2: Adelaide Writers Festival. Now once BONDI have hapened, and the
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  Speaker 2: I's fair to say, I think the board of Adelaide
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  Speaker 2: Writers we chat their collective DAX. They said, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: oh we can't have her. It's going to be too bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to you know, there'll be a backlash and
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  Speaker 2: look bad in us. So they disinvite her and say no,
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  Speaker 2: we would rather didn't come anymore. It could be too
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  Speaker 2: you know, insensitive, culturally insensitive, all this stupid stuff that
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  Speaker 2: the left makes up. Obviously they hadn't met her because
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  Speaker 2: they seem to have assumed she would go quietly neither
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  Speaker 2: to say she did not. And then of course all
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  Speaker 2: her ohso lefty mats who are also going to the
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  Speaker 2: Writer's Festival, the lovies all said oh, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: boycott it because you know, oh not because technically they
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: support all the terrible things that Rander has said. No,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: because they support free speech. Do you remember that? Do
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: you remember all these people supporting free speech? When Bill
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Leak was hounded death for a cartoon that some people
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: didn't like, they were all there the same line. It's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: basically the same list of name all stood up. Oh no,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: but that only sound up for the free speech that
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: they happened to agree with, because, of course, as Voltaire said,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that is the exact point defintion of the very definsive
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the free speech. I will you know, I may not
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: agree with what you say, in which case I will
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: do absolutely nothing. If I do agree with what you say,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I'll fight.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Pretty much.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: These are towering intellectuals. I'm sure they all speak French,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: but if not, it may have somehow got lost in translation.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: But this was very This was how concerned the board
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: was for the cultural safety of the love is at them.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Well, they're so concerned.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: The Iranian writer who decided not to boycott it has
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: received death threats because the consistency of these people's values
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: is breathtat the.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: One person left saying that's right, and so the So basically, once,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: of course some people decide to boycott everything, Oh yes,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: I'm boycoking too, I'm also fighting for a free speech.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: And of course anyone left behind gets sort of bread
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: and a collaborator. So basically, now there is a massive exodus,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: and then following when there's basically no one left to
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: turn out the lights, Louise Adler, the head of the festival,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: whose fault this was all along, because she was the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: one who had Randa on the ticket in the first place,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: when she should never have been in a climate of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a huge amount of anti Semitism. But of course Louise
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Adler was previously gone on the record saying that the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: whole anti Semitism thing was a beat up by news
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Corps and the ABC, those old long term conspirators. Anyway,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: so she then says, well, now I'm going to resign.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Now there's no riders Week at all, which of course
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: means that all the poor actual workers who the.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Left are meant to be worried about don't get paid
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: because they don't get any work. So all the soundos
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: and the lighting guys, and the hospitality workers and the
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: hotel workers, they don't get any money.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: But now it's all okay because it turns out that
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the board of the Adelaide Riders Week doesn't stand for
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: anything on let him meet it everything else, there was
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: no problem on them. Apologize now to doctor abdolphta can
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I read the apology because I'm not excited enough, I'm
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: not passionate enough about the incredical commitment that the Adelaide Writers'
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Festival has to free speech. It says, quote, we apologize
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: to doctor Abdolphaeta unreservedly. God, these guys know how to
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: just get on their knees and kiss the ring, don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: they unreservedly for the harm the Adelaide Festival Corporation has
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: caused her. Intellectual and artistic freedom is a powerful human right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: They just discovered this. Apparently they just discovered this in
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the last week after their after their after their event
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: was about to go tits up because all these left.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: His boycotted this freedom because they've a pointed a new
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: board now because.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: The rest of the board walked out there. That's right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: So the new board members were asked today by the advertiser,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: you know what they thought ofthing that's gone on, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: they all said, we're not allowed to talk. You've got
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to go and talk to our publicist person.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: So it's not accelerated.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: A few board members to discuss what is happening. What
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: was the point?
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: There was no point.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: They're not going to have the festival this year. I
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: don't think it back for me.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I don't think they'll have it next.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: What's the point of all of this carry on if
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: you're just going to have her back.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I got to say, Mali not a big fan of
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: generally labor premiers, but he tends to be doing a
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: pretty good job. Peter mullanowskis and he's done really well.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I think when it's come to handling this issue, and
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: if I was maling, I'd be pulling all government funding
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: from the Adelaide Writers Festival. And I don't think it'll
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: be going ahead anymore anyway. I think it's an absolute
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: mo point.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Next year, no one will notice if it's not really the.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: One hundred and eighty writers, they won't have anything to well,
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: they said.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: You know who, who would have thought that an event
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: that he's made for doctors' wives who fancied themselves as
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: begion talk.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: About the deals now you know, well, I know, I know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: It's just it's a neck coach. It's no one's going
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: to miss it if it's not the one is.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I was talking on five Double A, which is like
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: by far the biggest radio stage, like the only really
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: mainstream radio i AM radio station in Adelaide. None of
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: theirs have even darkened the door of the all and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: this is the thing. What they actually found out, the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: lesson of it, is that these numpties, these absolute breaking intelligence,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: they are the intelligentsia, and I use that word in
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a column just today, but who think they're so smart,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: so intellectual, so sophisticated, and now think that there's some
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: kind of forum for free speech and freemam distress. What
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: they didn't seem to actually even know about themselves this
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: how smart they are, was that the selections that they'd
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: made for this year, as I'm sure with every other year,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: have been so many drones sharing the same high line
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: on Israel and Palestine, that as soon as they tried
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to get rid of the most sort of extreme one,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the whole apparatus just collapsed all around them. But what
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: they didn't understand was they were actually just presiding over
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: a giant circle jerk of people so stupid they couldn't
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: even conceive of an original position on an issue that
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: is bedeviling the world. And so of course the slightest
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: pin prick, the whole thing explodes.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: They've reput they've sown, and I'm not terribly sad about it.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: And just just on this scene, very quickly, we've got
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: a few things to power through before we get to
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: the break. And these people who were trying to stage
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: another pro Palestine rally this weekend in Sydney or Friday,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I think they want to do it at the town hall.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: And laws were brought in after the Bondi attack to
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: prevent protest going on since then, and it was originally
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: fourteen days and it can be extended in fortnite periods
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: by the police commissioner. I mean, just stay at home, like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: now is not the time. I have no issue. You
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: can protest cowscume on whatever, but now is just not
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the time. Guys. Why do you have to push the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: law to have your protest about something on the other
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: side of the world when you can make no difference
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and there's a peace deal anyway.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's the issue. There is a ceasefire
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: in place and a peace deal underway. I would have
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: less of a problem if they were out protesting and
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: support of the Iranian people and trying to pull down
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the Iranian regime that is the eye of Toller and
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: the murderous regime Iran. But no, no, no, no, these left
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: is don't care about Muslims in Iran, don't care about them.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Their life not so much of a problem.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Let's just still go on about Gaza and the Palestinians,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: even though.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: There's a ceasefire in place.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: It's right, a ceasefire. Let us not forget that was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: good enough for her mass yes so and Marsas said,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: this deal is okay for us, but the stand for
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Palestine room linked to his Butteria, which is listed as
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: a terror group in other jurisdictions, not here. But they're saying, oh, no, no, no,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: it's not good. It's good enough for herm those wet
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: little centrists who flew over the border and killed a
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: thousand Israelis and started this. It's good enough for them,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: but it's not good enough for us. We're hard, mate,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: We're hard. Unbelievable.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Can we talk about I just want to get this
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: in because I talked about at the top of the show.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Josh Cavala is predictable, so I know. So we talked
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: about this on Monday. He used to play for the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Adelaide United Football Club soccer, of course, and he was
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the first openly gay male player in soccer that he
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: was still playing when he came in. There are other
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: soccer players who've come out but that's after they gave
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: up the game a big deal at the time in
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. He was supported by his club in
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: doing so.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Etc.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: He's now playing over in England in some small time league.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: They've got eleven different leagues over there.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: He's playing in the.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Heights of a Yeah, I know, I know, but he's
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the league. He's playing in his seventh on the ladder
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: of eleven of them. Right, it's a semi professional league.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: He's playing for a club that has a home ground
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: with a capacity of two thousand people. So he has
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: actually moved down in the world. And he said the
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: reason he left was because of homophobia in Adelaide United
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and that's why he didn't get a game in the
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: last season he played for them. So he was forced
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: to go overseas because his club was homophobic. And we said,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: maybe it's because you're just not that good of a
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: soccer player. Well, the captain of Adelaide United has come
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: out and confirmed as much. Here he was this morning
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: on five Double A.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Whilst I was there and whilst I was with Josh,
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: and we were nothing but supportive of him and all
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: the endeavors. There are a lot of other players within
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: the squad that, in my opinion, worked a lot harder
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: than he did. And there were, in fact multiple occasions
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: that Josh decided to take up outside opportunities, try to
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: hide it from us and lie to us and miss
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: training sessions and club commitments, and then we still accepted
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: that that was what happened.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought that would be the case. You know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: it's I wasn't good enough, I wasn't playing by the rules,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I wasn't playing fair with my team. But it was homophobia.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: But you know, and look, I'm probably going to get
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: in trouble God, I seem to be on a roll tonight.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: But you know, he missed soccer training and miss being
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: part of the club because he was taking up, according
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: to this article, commercial opportunities. Now, I'm pretty sure most
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Adelaide United soccer players, I probably didn't even get the
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: name of the team right because I don't really know
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: anything about them, didn't get that many commercial opportunities. But
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: I'm sure his id and his name and brand was
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: heightened when he came out and was used by brands
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: as a bit of a poster child for them, which
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: is why he got the opportunity to do.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Commercial value, might be working at Maccas.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Could have been working backers.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: But you know, the fact that he's now trying to
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: turn it on hober phobia is just pathetic and it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: clearly something that you're right, he's just not that good.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: He wasn't that committed. And then but.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Also the thing is though that he's kind of been
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: too clever by half because of course, having come out
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: while still playing, the club would have known that if
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: they let him go for anything that had a whiff
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of homophobia, that would be an instant lawsuit. And if
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: there was anything to do with homophobia about the decision,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: they would be liable. It would be they would be
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: They would be absolutely one hundred percent in the dock.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: So I think, if anything, it probably helped him stay
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: as long as I did.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: It's a good point. You know what I thought, you
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: wanted a quality, you got a quality, But you still
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: want to be the victim. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: After the break, speaking of people who want to be victims,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: the teal candidates and their volunteers there complaining that the
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: other volunteers on the pollen boots my lollies. Can you
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: believe it? Ba more after this are the Teals, the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: poor poor Teal's Crimemea River, because they are saying their
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: volunteers anyway, have made some submissions to a parliamentary inquiry
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: about you know how we run polling booths and all
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: these sorts of things, and they complaining that their experience
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: of the federal election last year was traumatizing, awful, oh
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: all these things. This is in the odds today. Irritated
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Teal campaigners have complained to Parliament that rival volunteers would
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: not say hello to them or accept their lollies during
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: last year's federal election and acted in other aggressive ways.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Some said were consistent. We've broader threats to national security,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: highlighted by Australia's spy agency. Sorry, okay, so somehow we've
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: gone from they wouldn't say hello and they didn't want
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: to eat my lollies to that is somehow connected to
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: like terrorism or something. Because Mike Burgess has talked about
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a breakdown in social cohesion and we've seen it on
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: polling moods with the people the tail lollies de lies.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Someone else was complaining that that the other volunteers were
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: shaking hands too vigorously and if I can demonstrate Joke
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: did something.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: And they terrorism.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I know, the army sore.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: After help white supremacy.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: What is wrong with these people?
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Well, there is so much wrong with these people. And
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I'd like to thank my friend Michael who just sent
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: me a text to remind me that it was actually
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: one of Zari's Steggles volunteers who stabbed a Liberal volunteer.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I don't see the Liberals putting in complaints about the
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Teals volunteer volunteers who literally stabbed them.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: With what you stabbed them before or after they didn't
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: accept her Lolly's Well, I think.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: It was a he who stabbed a he.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: And yeah, he well alleged, well he allegedly stabbed them,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: but it's been to court and he was found to
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: have done it, so I'm not sure whether it's still
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: alleged because it actually been the report system. But but
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you know he this. I've been on many, many, many
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: polling booths over my life and over the last few
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: election cycles since the Teals have been there. Let me
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: tell you I've never went Worth Bradfield. A number of
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: others Will Ringer Michella been out to booths all up
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: and down those places. And let me tell you not
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: one stage, the most number of volunteers were always the Teals.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: It's kind of almost like a cult. They all sort
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: of and they all look the same. Apparently they all
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: do book club together.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: When they all do, I thought you were saying, you know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: something a bit more furious.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, book club. Book club is what I
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: don't want to hear them, hear them.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Anyone else. They're usually very polite, they're quite aggressive themselves.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: They're incredibly unpleasant people. In my experience of every time
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I've ever gone near any one of them, no one's
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: ever offered me a Lawley, let alone a hello. So
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know which boothe this was going on, But seriously,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: teals don't care cry go go away.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I know, Caleb, you said crime in the River. I've
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: got some other suggestions, perhaps some music therapy for the
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: teals who do feel upset by they are. I think
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: you can. You can listen to the Rolling Stones as
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Teals go by. You could listen to Smokey Robinson and
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: the Commodos tracks of My Teals, And if you're up
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: for something more contemporary, you could listen to a Great
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Collab as the kids say, between the weekend and ariana Grande,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: which is save your teals for another.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: I've kill drops on the dance floor.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: That you can introduce the next next topic. I don't
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: think this is one that Caleb.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: That No.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Well, for those of us wondering out there whether men
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: can get pregnant? The US Senate has recently been looking
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: into this.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Issue and a doctor and.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Specialist was unable to answer the question of over whether
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: men can get pregnant.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: It's Verma, can men get pregnant? Doctor Verba?
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I just want to make sure, doctor Bran, can.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: Men get pregnant?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: As a doctor?
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: Give me your opinion as a doctor? Can men get pregnant?
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll move on to the next one is doctor,
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: can men get pregnant?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: No?
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: I know you're a lawyer, an ag like I was
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: an ag?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Can men get pregnant?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: No?
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Seriously, I cannot believe in twenty twenty six where it
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: is a situation where someone who prides themselves and declares
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: that they are a person of science, they are a
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: medical doctor, yet they cannot answer the simple question can
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: men get pregnant? It is just getting beyond a joke.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, when are these people going to accept that
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: you require certain bits and pieces to be able to
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: carry a baby, and men do not have those bits
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: and pieces.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: When she took great offense as well to be called
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: miss that is the bit that she really wanted to
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: be called doctor. Is she a teal?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: She is the ultimate teal. She is a teal called Karen,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: a teal of teals.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: But she really wanted to That's why doctor.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: That is the thing, isn't it. Oh No, I'm a doctor,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: a doctor, and then when and.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Then when you're asked a medical questions you can.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Is the most basic thing any doctor can say. Suddenly, No,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I'm a granite statue.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: So are you planning to have is Caleb?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Because we haven't had it confirmed whether or not it's
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: biological possible or not in the US.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Senate, probably one day, but I don't think I'll be
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: carrying nobly not.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But I can't have babies.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: You said this, I'm.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Forty nine, right, it's only an age.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Perimenopausal exactly.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You've been putting on a bit of wake and switching
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: a bit too much over the joke.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: No metopause jokes.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: But honestly, if you have to think about the question
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: of whether or not men can get pregnant. Maybe you've
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: you've gone to the wrong calling.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: In a way, I mean, look to be fair, and
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: this is very unusual coming from me. If she was
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: to say, biological men can't get pregnant, but trans men
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: can have children, sure, I think that would.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Be a fair answer. Why can't these people even just
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: say that.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I was going to defend her on exactly that basis,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And why excuse me?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: It's doctor, Yeah they say that, and because because trans
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: men and men and all this sort of.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: Gab, and trans women are women, Like at the end.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Of your biological woman who identifies as a man, you
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: can get pregnant, but you have to be a biological woman.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And that's not even all biological women.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: Sadly, why don't they just say that?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Like why do they then have to say, well, I
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: can't say that because and news.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: They are as smart as the board of the Cadelaide Festival.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I now know that we've got our new benchmark of
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: intelligence here.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Now speaking of Karens, we have one fact. We have
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: what what would the collective now and be for a
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: plethora of Karens.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Knowing a few Karens I think a murder of Karens, a.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Smug of Karens. Anyway, they've got a whold of Amy Shark.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: So Amy Shark has was on a plan. Amy Shark
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: famous singer. We all know who Amy Shark is, right,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Gold Coast singer everyone likes.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Say night, I go to Baby Shark.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Oh god, no, Baby Shark is the name of her son. Anyway,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Amy Sharks, she's very, very famous. I think she's won
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a bunch of arias, She's had a bunch of as
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: it hits. She's got a great head of hair that
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: she likes to sort of wearing a sort of loose
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: knot that a lot of people find very earthy and
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: relatable while at the same time very pretty. There you go.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: That was Amy Shark filming a picture of herself on
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: a plane, basically like, oh man, don't you hate it
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: when you're start next to a screaming baby on a plane.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: We've all been there, right Toat's relatable.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: P O V.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I got your girl. Anyway. It turns out that posting
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: this is a hate crime because Shout the collection having.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: On titcuver and by elbows legislation.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: And has had to delete the clip and issue an
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: apologies after a whole bunch of women accused her meant
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to accused her of mum shaming. I just saying, oh, man,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: don't you hate this that she's now committed a hate crime.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe she would get five years.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: If she could get I.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Mean, but surely even people who are parents can acknowledge
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: that it is annoying when a baby is crying on
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: a plane. It's a fact of life, but it's annoying.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with pointing that.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Out to the parents, because you can't just leave him behind.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: And look, I've got three kids and we used to
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: fly quite a bit, and honestly, I get on now.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: I feel bad that I kind of go, oh, that baby.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Had shut up, but said, on the other hand, you know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: if you can help the mum, judgmental looks don't help.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: You know, when my son and I used to have
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: to come.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: To Sydney for therapy when he was you know, two
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: and three with autism, and because as we talked about
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: the other night, it's an invisible disability, and Fred would
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: sometimes be difficult to handle on the plane and I
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: would get looks in fitting from flight attendants and my
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: ex husband used to call them my capal moments because
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: I just used to look at them and go, he's
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: got autism. But your judgmental look just made my flight
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: so much easier. Thank you so much for your assistance.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: But you know, I think if you, if you can.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Try and help a mum who's particularly mom's traveling on
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: her own with a couple, but seriously, get over it
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: like it is annoying. No one pays for a flight
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: to get on and wants to hear a baby cry
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: the whole time, you know, And that's just seriously, get.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: A live paper and she's deleted the video.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: She wasn't she wasn't death staring, the mask, wasn't like
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that and didn't point out that. Would you like to
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: know what Amy Shark said in her apologies? You ready
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to go on? So sorry, guys, I'm going to f
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: up like this my whole life. Just so you know,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I'm really sorry to all the mums. I effing love mums.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I love babies. When you don't have kids, you see
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a crying baby behind you as a funny situation, how damn.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: But I know now it's not a funny situation at all,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: that's right, Shark. Nothing is funny anymore.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: You know what you do funny? No, I'm sorry, anyone.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Here's a tip.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Offer to hold the baby and offer the mamma glass
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: and then take a video.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Good luck with that one. Now you might end up
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: with a restraining order. Hey, in Brisbane, of course they're
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: gonna have the Olympics in twenty thirty two, and it's well,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: we shall see. And they've been bragging about the fact
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: this is the will be the first Olympics with a
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: reconciliation action plan.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: Right, this is a a recycling plan.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I've probably got one of them too, but it's going
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: to be the first Olympics with a reconciliation action plan.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: They really care about Indigenous people. If you go on
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the Brisbane Olympics website, you scroll down a little bit
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: and you end up looking at this got huge thing
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: on there about oh you got the country, and we
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: care about Indigenous people and they're so important to the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Olympics and all this sort of stuff, except for the
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: fact that they want to build a brand new Olympic
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: stadium in Victoria Park on Parklands in Brisbane, and the
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: local Indigenous people say that is a sacred site and
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: you should not be building your stadiums on it, so
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: we care about indigenous people up to a point. So
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: they had launched last year, one of these Aboriginal land
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: corporations launched action against it to try and stop the
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: stadium from going ahead. But to murray, what who is
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: the federal Environment Minister has now intervened and said that
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: it can go ahead. Isn't it funny because of because
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: we had a mind that was knocked back gold mine blaming,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: because you know, someone someone put.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: In this.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: My mistake that I got the ethical creature one who
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: exists no exactly, so.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: We can pick and choose which indigenous we think are
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: really important.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Government doesn't care about indigenous cultural heritage when it comes
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: to where they're putting wind farms, solar farms or pumped
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: hydro that indigenous concerns are way down the list there
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: when it comes to renewable energy projects. So why wouldn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: the Olympics may the same?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess I think it is actually the same,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: And this is the thing, so I think this is
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: actually a rerun of the Mcphillermy's gold Mine and the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Blue Banded Bee fiasco where you actually had the local
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: indigenous land Council, the actual people who are in charge,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the actual custodians who are the responsible group. So what
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: are you talking about. We want the mind to go ahead.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: This is great for us. It's going to provide jobs,
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: economic opportunity for us. This is fantastic. And it was
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: some rogue group self appointed that no one really had
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: heard of.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Before listen to.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm sorry, Yeah it was an error. But anyway,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Murray what is now the new environment.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: That's Murray should now get to mcshillamy's goldline back on
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Coincidentally, I think they're trying to do that, and this
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: is exactly what happened here. So this attempt to stop
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the work on the stadium was from an unnamed indigenous group,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: so I wasn't even from the actual official local indigenous representative.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: So again there's trouble makers. You know, it's just.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Might be hate speech coming back.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I actually hope that they would be successful, just because
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I don't think they should be building it on parklands
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: because once you lose parklands, you don't get parkland back.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: I have an opposition to it from that perspective, but
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I just think if you're going to.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Add a little blue banded, well gold, just draw one
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: on a rock.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: The thing to me is, if you're going to talk
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: the talk about how much you care about Indigenous culture
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: and Indigenous people and we've got the Reconciliation Action Plan
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: and whatever, if Indigenous people come to you and say
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't build it there, if you really believe in
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: the cause, shouldn't you be listening to them. It just
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: seems that sometimes we listen to the things we want
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: to hear and we disregard the ones that are not
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: so convenient.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: You know what, this government doesn't have consistency of us
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: who would have thought?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Who would by princals? And if you don't like them,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I have others. They've done the exact right thing. This
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: is the whole point. There was a slight error with
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: the whole you know, one billion dollar.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Goals down their big commitment to Indigenous issues website.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: They are they are actually listening to the appropriate Indigenous
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: people and lots of organizations have a reconciliation plan. This
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: one does. News Corp. Has a reconciliation Action plan. It's
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: totally normal and it's a good thing. What's bad is
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: when you have kind of rogue activists who don't have
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: any authority, who don't have the experience, and who don't
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: have the backing of their community, who aren't representing their community,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: just deciding that they're going to go out on the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: war path. And that's what happened with the blue banded
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: b that just made a community about a billion dollars poorer.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And with you know what they were trying to do
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: with this with this big Olympic stadium in Brisbane, which
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: they need because the Gabba is too big. The gabbas
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: like kind of in fit in its own suburbs.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Very quickly before we get to a break and Oka Junior,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: the health are in the United States was us who
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: in the administration has the worst diet? Who do you reckon?
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: It was?
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: He eats really bad food, which is McDonald's. And then
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: you know Kathy and dit coke, but drinks the die
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: coke all times. Here's a constitution of a deity. I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: don't know how he's alive.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump, he is talking about there, of course. And
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: you would have also seen that they've been talking about
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: milk over in the United States, promoting that you should
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: drink more milk. And Donald Trump, while talking about this
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: had to clarify the spelling of whole milk.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: It's actually a little definition whole milk and it's all
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: with a W for those of you that have a problem.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Most of the.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know what whole h o el e milk
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: is and I'm not sure I want.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I think that's an indictment on the American education system
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: that he had to wave.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: What is going on there?
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Milk with an M.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: After the break, an Australian champions who won the Dakar
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Rally before. He's still going through. He's probably not going
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: to win this time. He's continuing despite the fact he's
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: broken bones during the race. What an aussy hero. More
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: after the track Now the Dakar Rally, the motorcycle race.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: We have an Australian bloke who's won it before, Daniel Saunders.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: He was trying. He's in the rest at the moment.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: He was hoping to win it again. He can't do
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: it because he had a bad crash and he broke
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: his collar bone. But can you believe it? He is
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: continuing on anyway? Here he is.
• 46:39
  Speaker 9: It's like, for sure snap collar bone at the refill
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: we checked it. But yeah, one hundred and forty K's.
• 46:44
  Speaker 9: He went over to June and was pretty scary and it.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Was very tough.
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't quit. So Mum and dad didn't raise
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: no quitter, so I'm not pulling out now.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: What a great attitude. Mom and dad didn't raise no quit.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you he's not a general. You know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: he's not a millennial. He's not one of those new
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: generation of kids. He's someone who gets in there and
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: gets it done.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I bet you know Mom doesn't have to ask him
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: to empty the dishwasher twice.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to say, I know how he feels.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I know that kind of grit and courage. A fellow Victorian,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I actually broke two or three of my ribs but
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: still managed to get on a complimentary business class flight
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to You're right, yeah, well here, we don't all work cakes. Yeah,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: you know, like you know, I like like Daniel, I
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: knew that this was, you know, something I had to
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: do for Queen.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Put in the nation, But like, get that man a beer.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: That's how you can make it a bit more.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Isn't that the only way he's going to keep going.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: That's a bit of lubrication and some medication.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: If he had a dart in his mouth and a
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: beer in his hand.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: He'd be a bit of lubrication. That's a good night out,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: speaking my language.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: But you know that would be the picture of a
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: of a proper orsod bloke. That that sort of ossie attitude.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: We don't see it as much anymore, but we need
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: to bring it back.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with Lou Reed's song Satellite of Love?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I am perhaps the follow up Carousel of Shame? No,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: because that is what this airline passenger experience. How's that
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: for just a well done non sequit or an absolutely
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: meaningless segue. Anyway, So this is a post that is
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: going viral on TikTok. So you know the Chinese Communist
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Party is watching, and this is a bloke. We all
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: know what it's like when you're standing there waiting for
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: your luggage to come out on the baggage carousel and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: you start to twig that maybe something might be wrong.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Have a look. So the good news is that the
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: carousel did in fact deliver all of his baggage. The
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: bad news is delivered it one item at a time.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: You know, it's still better than most quantus flats nowadays.
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Like you actually turned up in the place.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Yes he did actually get.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Just imagine that right there were You're thinking, now, what.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Else did I pack?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Did I put the lubricant in?
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Dear, dear, dear, And you can go and work that
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: out for yourself, I suppose. Thank you so much for
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: joining us the night Up next the dismissal fifty years
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: on Chris Hullman's documentary good Night