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02/13/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Paula Potter, Jason Pizatella, Tom Susman, Dave Wilson · The Dave Allen Show

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  Speaker 3: Coming up on the show a little bit later on.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, the big news is the governor said the
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  Speaker 3: States addressed last night, and the legislature gabbled in yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: They kind of gabbled out ceremonial kind of stuff, some
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  Speaker 3: meetings and whatever. Then they had the speech last night,
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  Speaker 3: get down to business at the Capitol today. We'll talk
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  Speaker 3: to Tom Sussman long Time I'm a Politico about his
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  Speaker 3: take on the state of the state last night, plus
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  Speaker 3: some other things going on with the legislature and speaking
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  Speaker 3: of the legislature, Today begins day one of our live
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  Speaker 3: We'll be doing talk line live from the Capitol both
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  Speaker 3: today and tomorrow. We'll talk to them as we close
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  Speaker 3: out the show today. Also on the show, Jason Pizitella
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  Speaker 3: from the Contractors Association is here and your calls and
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  Speaker 3: text are welcome too. So here's the thing. If you
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  Speaker 3: want to go ahead and weigh in now on your
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  Speaker 3: take on the governor's State of the State last night,
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  Speaker 3: feel free to text me. I'll get to those texts
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  Speaker 3: a little bit later on the text line courtesy of
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  Speaker 3: Tony the Taylor's three zero four nine three five five
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  Speaker 3: to Tom Hussman a little bit later on. It was
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  Speaker 3: announced last week we have a new superintendent of schools
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  Speaker 3: here in Kanawa County. That announcement made last week by
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  Speaker 3: the BOE. Her name is Paula Potter and she joins
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  Speaker 3: us now. Good morning, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning, how are you today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm fine. Thank you for being here. So what's officially
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  Speaker 3: the timeline here as because we know Superintendent Williams announced
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  Speaker 3: his retirement, a new superintendent was named. When do you
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  Speaker 3: actually take over the office.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I'll be named superintendent July one of this year,
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  Speaker 5: so I'll continue in my role as deputy superintendent from
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  Speaker 5: now until July one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so officially that's when all becomes official. Officially, that's
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  Speaker 3: when it becomes official. How's how does that sound? Give
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  Speaker 3: us a little background on you, because I know your
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  Speaker 3: a long time fixture in the education system here in
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  Speaker 3: Kanawha County Schools. Give us the background on Paula Potter.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Well, you know I started teaching many years ago
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  Speaker 5: here in Kennall County school In Kannall County Schools, I
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  Speaker 5: taught at Hayes Middle School, at Nitro High School. I
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  Speaker 5: was an assistant principal at DuPont High School the last
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  Speaker 5: year it was opened, and then moved to Riverside High School.
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  Speaker 5: I was an assistant principal at South Charleston High School
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  Speaker 5: and that's the high school I graduated from. When I
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  Speaker 5: graduated from high school, and then I moved on to
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  Speaker 5: be principal at Hayes middle School at Riverside High School
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  Speaker 5: Ben Franklin Career Center. I came to the board office
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  Speaker 5: to work as an assistant superintendent over middle schools and
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  Speaker 5: then over high schools, and now I'm working as a
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  Speaker 5: deputy superintendent.
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  Speaker 3: So what is it about the education system that first
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  Speaker 3: interested you? Was this something that maybe when you were
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  Speaker 3: growing up that you thought, I want to get into
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  Speaker 3: the education system. Was this something you discovered late in life?
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  Speaker 3: What is it that made you want to do this
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  Speaker 3: as what's obviously been a career for you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I tell everyone I was the second grade student
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  Speaker 5: at Richmond Elementary in Kannall County Schools and my teacher
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  Speaker 5: was missus Moore, She's a retired principal from Kannall County Schools.
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  Speaker 5: And if we were good all week, she played her
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  Speaker 5: guitar on Fridays and sang to us. I felt she
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  Speaker 5: was a movie star at that time and she was
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  Speaker 5: so caring. She and her co teacher, missus Neda Meyer.
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  Speaker 5: And I really can contribute my love for working with
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  Speaker 5: students as early as second grade because of the impact
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  Speaker 5: that those two folks had on me at that time,
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  Speaker 5: and then, of course through the years, various educators that
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  Speaker 5: took interest in me personally and helped me advance my
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  Speaker 5: academic career and encourage me to go on is what
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  Speaker 5: first started my love and education. I actually have a
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  Speaker 5: master's degree in sports management and worked in the athletic
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  Speaker 5: department at WVU. I felt that was going to be
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  Speaker 5: my career path, is to work in athletics. However, I
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  Speaker 5: moved back to the Charleston area when my grandparents became
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  Speaker 5: ill and the job market at that time brought me
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  Speaker 5: back to teaching, and just the moment I started, even
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  Speaker 5: through today, just the connections that I make not only
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  Speaker 5: with students, but with teachers and with parents is why
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  Speaker 5: I love to come to work.
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  Speaker 3: Every day, talking again with Paula Potter, who will be
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  Speaker 3: taking over the rains a little later on the year
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  Speaker 3: So have you started formulating the plan yet for how
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  Speaker 3: you're going to attack this job, because you know, being superintendent,
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  Speaker 3: as you well know, you've been around it for a while.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, every day is a is a continuation
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  Speaker 5: of different ideas that you know I'm thinking about. I've
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  Speaker 5: been very fortunate with doctor Williams as the superintendent. He's
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  Speaker 5: allowed me to do a great deal of work on
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  Speaker 5: my own in the county. We do have a great
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  Speaker 5: deal of work to continue to do. Our goal always
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  Speaker 5: is to improve academics as well as build relationships with
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  Speaker 5: students and the community. We have had a changing landscape
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  Speaker 5: with public education. You know, there's more choices now, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited about really showcasing why folks should choose public education.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a firm believer we offer educational opportunities for every student.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we don't select who we want to take
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  Speaker 5: or who we get to send out. So that's what
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  Speaker 5: I find so intriguing about public education. I think it
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  Speaker 5: really prepares students for the world that they'll enter when
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  Speaker 5: they go to work and or go to college. You
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  Speaker 5: have to deal with all walks of life, and I
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  Speaker 5: feel like we can provide that best opportunity for students.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, I do feel that I'm up for the challenge.
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  Speaker 5: The great thing about Kinnall County Schools is we have
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  Speaker 5: a fantastic team of people that I will be able
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  Speaker 5: to work with, and we just try to do our
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  Speaker 5: best to collaborate and make the best improvements that we
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  Speaker 5: can each day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you brought that up about the state of
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  Speaker 3: public schools in general in the year that is twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five, because it's, as you said, the land You've
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  Speaker 3: been in this business for a while, the landscape has
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  Speaker 3: certainly changed in schools and there are so many different
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  Speaker 3: options out there now. And again this is not an
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  Speaker 3: exclusive to Kanawah County. We're seeing this across the country
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  Speaker 3: where parents are making other choices. But you're a firm believer,
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  Speaker 3: obviously by the job that you do, the public schools
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  Speaker 3: are the best option.
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  Speaker 5: I do believe that. I do believe that parents have
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  Speaker 5: to make it the choice for their students, But I
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  Speaker 5: also believe that it's important that we as public educators
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  Speaker 5: demonstrate what we can offer all students from the top,
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  Speaker 5: you know, so to speak to those students that are
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  Speaker 5: maybe challenging towards the bottom what we can do to
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  Speaker 5: help them improve. At times, it almost feels like an
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  Speaker 5: attack on public education because we take things so personal.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really view it as that. I view it
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  Speaker 5: as we need to fully demonstrate what we have to
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  Speaker 5: offer students. Just this school year, we've had huge gains
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  Speaker 5: from our beginning of the year testing data to the
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  Speaker 5: middle of the year testing data. I do believe that
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  Speaker 5: we are a great choice for parents to think about
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  Speaker 5: and to really come and explore what we have to
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  Speaker 5: offer their son or daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we'll let you go talk about working alongside doctor
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  Speaker 3: Tom Williams. And he's been in the superintendent roles for
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  Speaker 3: a few years now. And you said, you've been the
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  Speaker 3: deputy superintendent. You've got to watch the way he does things.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about that relationship with doctor Williams.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, our relation professional relationships started many years ago. When
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  Speaker 5: I first started. One of my first teaching jobs was
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  Speaker 5: at Nitro High School. He was the assistant principal. That's
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  Speaker 5: been almost twenty eight years ago, and so you know,
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  Speaker 5: I've been fortunate to watch him as a leader and
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  Speaker 5: learn from him, and I'm going to continue to do
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  Speaker 5: that as you know, his tenure and he's given a
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  Speaker 5: great deal of service to Knall County Schools that he's
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  Speaker 5: made great advances in many of our programs and in
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  Speaker 5: many of our schools. He's had to make some tough decisions,
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  Speaker 5: as we all will moving forward in the future with consolidations.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, we all know that our population is
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  Speaker 5: decreasing in West Virginia and we hope to see that
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  Speaker 5: trend change. But you know, our funding is based on
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  Speaker 5: the students that you know come through our doors. And
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  Speaker 5: so he's been very prudent with taxpayers dollars to stay
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  Speaker 5: within budgets and to keep our budgets balanced. And I
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  Speaker 5: have learned that from him and from our previous superintendent,
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  Speaker 5: doctor Dering, and I plan to do that same thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's not always a popular decision, but we want to
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  Speaker 5: be you know, good stewards of taxpayers dollars, and we
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  Speaker 5: will always evaluate everything we're doing to keep everybody within
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  Speaker 5: a balanced budget. So, you know, I've learned to learn
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  Speaker 5: from his leadership. He is caring, he shows empathy towards
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  Speaker 5: students and parents, and so I hope that those are
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  Speaker 5: things that I can emulate when I take over.
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  Speaker 3: Well, congratulations on getting the gig, and I'm sure that
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  Speaker 3: you'll do a great job as doctor Williams did. And
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  Speaker 3: again you'll take over officially in July. I appreciate you
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  Speaker 3: taking time at your schedule to be here. Doctor Williams
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  Speaker 3: was a regular on the show, so go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: mark that down and you will also be a regular
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  Speaker 3: on the show.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'll be happy too.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, all right, thanks, thanks a lot, we'll talk soon.
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  Speaker 3: That is Paula Potter again, who is the not yet
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  Speaker 3: the new supernendent Schools in Kawa County. She'll take over
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  Speaker 3: later in the year following the retirement of doctor Tom Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Tom Susman here is here here and I are going
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  Speaker 3: says talking about to Paula Potter, will she make better
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  Speaker 3: calls on closing schools in bad weather for the kids'
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  Speaker 3: safety versus trying to chase federal funds for beating kids
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  Speaker 3: as the present of the last ones have done. It's
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I've said this all along. We had
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  Speaker 3: a very very strange weather system weather event here Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: here in the Kanawa Valley, and it was a lot
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  Speaker 3: worse in certain areas not in the Charleston areas basically
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  Speaker 3: nothing of their wet rain And I mean obviously rain's web,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean wet roads, I should say, And it's
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  Speaker 3: it's not easy. It's it's not easy, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: make that decision. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they'd
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  Speaker 3: get it wrong. It can be a whole lot of
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  Speaker 3: difference between what's going on in downtown Charleston and what's
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  Speaker 3: going on in Tornado, for example, in the counties that
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  Speaker 3: you may be listening to the show as well. So,
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  Speaker 3: all right, Texas day, Today was just another day. But
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  Speaker 3: then I heard Mike Stewart is leaving West Virginia office
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  Speaker 3: for a position in DC. This is news from Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: But I can't say I'm surprised. However, I can say
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia will be better off without Mike Stewart. Mike
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  Speaker 3: Stewart's only used for West Virginia is as a pedestal
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  Speaker 3: to nestle himself up to Trump's bosom. I think it's
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  Speaker 3: first time I've ever said bosom on the air. Well
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  Speaker 3: here anyway, Stuart is typical career politician, jumping powerchaser who
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  Speaker 3: falls upwards and lives on Uncle Stamp's payroll. Addio Sinar
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  Speaker 3: had good rints to Mike Stewart. Somebody not of Mike
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  Speaker 3: Stewart fan. Now what does textas referring to? And I
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  Speaker 3: was going to get to that with Tom Susman a
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  Speaker 3: little bit later on the show yesterday Senator State Senator
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  Speaker 3: Mike Stewart announcing he's not done any media that I
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  Speaker 3: know of, although I did talk to him via text
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  Speaker 3: this morning that he is going to be taking a
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  Speaker 3: federal job. Don't know though if he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: obviously at some point he'll be leaving West Virginia and
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  Speaker 3: this all kind of depends on the RIFK Junior, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when he gets conferenced confirmation. So we'll have to wait
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• 17:05
  Speaker 3: we've seen enough of that in West Virginia one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: That's something we'll address with her and again Superintendent Potter
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Superintendent elect Potter. I guess superintendent to be. Potter will
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  Speaker 3: not be superintendent until July. But now I don't have
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  Speaker 3: Tom Williams on the show. A couple times between now
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  Speaker 3: and then. Texas Stewart would also have to go through
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  Speaker 3: Senate confirmation. His post said will remain until he's confirmed. Yeah, yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: that's exactly right, And I will get in that a
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: little bit later on. Jason Pizzetela is here. He is
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: the head of the Contractors Association of West Virginia. Good morning, sir,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, good morning, Dave, thanks for having me on the program.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. Tell us about the Contractor Association.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: What is it that you do.
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  Speaker 10: We represent all facets of the construction industry. In West Virginia.
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  Speaker 10: We have building, we have highway, we have road construction,
• 17:50
  Speaker 10: we have utility construction, broadband, you name it, we represent it.
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  Speaker 10: And we have over five hundred members across the state
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: in those and surrounding states to do business in West
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: Virginia and we try to be the void for the
• 18:00
  Speaker 10: state's construction industry, the state legislature and other places.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And speaking of the legislature, of course, last night the
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: governor gave his state of the State of the State,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and we're going to break that down a little bit
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: later on. I know you guys are always around the
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Capitol and you're always keeping an eye on things going
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: going on, anything in particular that you're looking at as
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: far as the legislature goes this year.
• 18:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we always try to advocate. You know, we've been
• 18:21
  Speaker 10: very blessed to have for the last six years to
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: have the Roads to Prosperity program that's invested billions of
• 18:27
  Speaker 10: dollars in our state's road infrastructure, and we'd like to
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: see some of that continue. There's always needs in West Virginia,
• 18:35
  Speaker 10: whether it's for new schools, new airports, new water, wastewater,
• 18:40
  Speaker 10: you know, things that people rely on on a day
• 18:43
  Speaker 10: to day basis usually don't happen without funding from the legislature.
• 18:47
  Speaker 10: So we try to advocate for those types of investments,
• 18:50
  Speaker 10: and in particular for the Contractors Association. We have a
• 18:55
  Speaker 10: construction work zone safety legislation that we've talked about the
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: last colt of years that's already been enacted in our
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: surrounding states of Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Maryland. And the goal
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: with is to try to get drivers to slow down
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: in construction work zones. And I know, Dave, you drive
• 19:10
  Speaker 10: I sixty four between Charleston and Huntington, probably more than anybody,
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: and you see all the traffic and all of the
• 19:16
  Speaker 10: work zones there, especially there at Barbersville, and there have
• 19:19
  Speaker 10: been several fatalities in West Virginia over the last couple
• 19:21
  Speaker 10: of years. And so we have a piece of legislation
• 19:24
  Speaker 10: that would allow law enforcement officers to use cameras to
• 19:28
  Speaker 10: help as an additional deterrent to get people to slow down.
• 19:30
  Speaker 10: And that's something that's not currently authorized by West Virginia law.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, I want to break that down. Why is that
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: not authorized already? I mean, is there a reason why.
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: Well, obviously, law enforcement officers can use radar and laser
• 19:42
  Speaker 10: to cite speeders, but as far as cameras are concerned,
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: that is where you get a picture of a vehicle
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: and a radar will attract the speed and tell the
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: officer that allows them to pull them over. West Virginia
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: law is very specific. You know, we're a conservative state
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: and we have very specific laws that don't allow cameras
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: for enforcement purposes. Okay, there are cameras everywhere, sure, yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: but you can't use them for enforcement. And that's one
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: of the things that we were asking the legislature to
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: do this year as a pilot the other states have
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: done where they've had some really good success.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Talking again with Jason Pizzotelo from the Contractors Association of
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: West Virginia, and Yeah, as you mentioned, I do travel,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Many of our listeners do as well. Many people in
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: this building. I sixty four on a daily basis. And
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: you know that whole project, the widening project, seemed like
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: it took forever, but it actually finished a little bit
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: ahead of schedule. Is that right? It did?
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that you was Saint opens Bridge, who's huge for
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: this region.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: But I know what you're talking about about driving through there,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and as you mentioned, going down. I spent a lot
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: of time in the Huntingson area, Barbersville in places like
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: that too, as you head down through there. I mean,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: it seems like that area has been at under construction since,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: like you know, nineteen twenty one. There were Model ts
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I think when they started working on that, on that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: particular project. But people speeding through construction zones, man, it
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: is a huge, huge issue, and as you said, there
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: have been fatalities not only from the drivers but also
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: from the workers. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And you know, from our perspective, our goal is to
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: protect the workers but also the drivers as well. And
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: you know, anything we can do to deter people from
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: speeding in those work zones and getting to not just speeding,
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: but also not be distracted, Yeah, that's.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Perhaps a bigger issue than the speeding. And you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: we passed the law, you know, the hands free law
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a long time ago. I don't know that people actually
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: pay attention to it, to be honest with you, because
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: all you have to do is if you pull up
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: at a you know, a stop. I can't tell you
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: a number of times on the interstate that I have
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: been passed by someone or you know, back in be
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: ahead of me. And we'll see them start to swerve.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, you just said, Okay, that person's
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: drunk or that person's with the influence. Yeah, they're under
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the influence of Verizon or AT and T. That's what
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: they're under the influence of.
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: Now, Yeah, I mean just imagine, you know, Dave, in
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: your job or my job, if you were out you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 10: doing what we're doing right now and somebody was driving
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: by an eighty miles an hour or ninety miles an
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: hour while you're trying to do your job. You know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 10: this is where these men and women work. And so
• 22:03
  Speaker 10: the goal is just to add another deterrent, another piece
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: for law enforcement to deter people from, you know, from
• 22:09
  Speaker 10: driving too fast and getting into what could be a
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: very catastrophic accident for them or the worker.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go back to the legislature for a moment. You know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Republicans and I know you're nonpartisan. I don't want to
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: get into that, but there has been a marked change
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: over the last you know, ten or more years with
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the with the makeup of the Legislature and the Republicans
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: being firmly in control. What is the overall mood coming
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: out of the Capital and of the legislature in your opinion,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: towards the fields like you represent, like contractors and things
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: of that nature.
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: This is my sixteenth session around the legislature, Dave, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: every year on the first day, everybody remains optimistic for
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: what's to come right, no matter who's governor, no matter
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: who's in charge of the Legislature, no matter what the
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: buy picture looks like. I think the mood is optimistic.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: I think after eight years of the previous administration, sometimes
• 23:08
  Speaker 10: you know change is good and some members of the
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: legislature want a continuation of what we've had of the
• 23:14
  Speaker 10: last eight years. It'll be remains to be seen how
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: the Legislature reacts to Governor Morrissey, who again is not
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: a stranger, having me intern in general for the last
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: twelve years, He's not a stranger to the Capitol, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: he's a stranger to being chief executive, and he's only
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: been there thirty days, and just like Donald Trump, every
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: day over the last thirty days have been some type
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: of action that has made the news cycle, you know,
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: to keep people's attention. And so I think the legislature
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: is going to be extremely busy, as they typically are,
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: and I think the mood here on day two is optimistic.
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: But if you ask me on day thirty, that might change.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about your event now. I'll have you on
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: because you have a big event every March here in town,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and I'll have you on as we lead.
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: Up to it.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Give a gift little preview of what that event is.
• 23:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, March twenty sixth and tenty seventh, that the Charleston
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  Speaker 10: Civic Center Coliseum is the largest construction and design expo
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: in the region. We do it annually every year. You're
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: kind enough to have us on the show a couple
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: of days before every year, where we have over five
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: hundred exhibitors and over thirty five hundred attendees that come
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: into the Civic Center over those two days to celebrate
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: the construction industry, the design industry, engineering architecture, all that's
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: good about what's happening in West Virginia and every year,
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: we have a keynote speech that draws five hundred and
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: six hundred people to the Civic Center on that first day.
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  Speaker 10: And this year our keynote speaker is Emily Callandrelli, the
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  Speaker 10: Space gal for some people that watch Netflix. The Charleston
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  Speaker 10: Gazette mail named her West Virginian of the Year, and
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  Speaker 10: she was in space last fall, and she has a
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  Speaker 10: very stem science, engineering, and technology background, and so I
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  Speaker 10: think people were going to be really excited to hear
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  Speaker 10: Emily speak on the morning of the twenty sixth. And
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  Speaker 10: we'll come back here in about a month a little
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: bit more about it. To have Emily on the show, Yeah,
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: it would be cool. Yeah, I think she would enjoy that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Before we let you go, let's talk about West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: in general. You mentioned the Roads to Prosperity Act, which
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: passed in twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen. Hard to believe it's
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: been that long ago. Twenty seventeen. We've seen a lot
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: of road construction going on, never enough for everybody, because
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: we don't like potholes, and we don't like things of
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: that nature. We don't we like things, you know, to
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: be smooth, and they're not always, but since the Roads
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to Prosperity Act passed in twenty seventeen, what's your overall
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: feel on it. I mean, there's been a lot of
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: things going, but a lot of things still to do
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in West Virginia as it pertains to things like this,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: our roads and whatnot.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's been somewhat transformational for our highway system.
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: I can't imagine where we would be right now in
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: twenty twenty five had Roads to Prosperity Program not passed
• 25:46
  Speaker 10: in twenty seventeen, because we have a lot of needs
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: in West Virginia and we still have more needs to do.
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: But let's also not forget that in addition to investing
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: over two billion dollars in the highway system, it also
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: has put over twenty five thousand contractors to work, not
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: to mention the doh side of things that are working
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: on the maintenance. So it really was a shot in
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: the arm for our state's infrastructure in twenty seventeen. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: you combine that with Congress's passage of the Infrastructure Investment
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: Jobs Act in twenty twenty one to add an extra
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: billion dollars a year on top of that to West
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: Virginia it's certainly keeping contractors busy, Dave, and we're excited
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: to deliver every project that the state and federal government
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: asks us to build, because I think the voters and
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: the drivers and the people that travel here for work
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: and vacation, they expect us to have a quality highway
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: system and we want to make sure they do.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Give us some information about the Contractor Association working people
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: reach out to you, I mean, people want to get involved,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: We want to learn more. Give us a contact CAWV
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• 26:50
  Speaker 3: that are interested in construction and design celebration at the
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: end of end of March.
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: We'd love to have anybody. It's free to attend. Go
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: online check it out. Register starting next week and hopefully
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: we'll see a lot of new faces coming in the March.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: All right, get with me because I want to definitely
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  Speaker 3: make sure that we have you and as you called
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  Speaker 3: bit as we get closer to the DA Jason Pizzetela
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  Speaker 3: from the Contractor Association of West Virginia, appreciate you being
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  Speaker 3: as a Texter, Dave says the president. That fella was
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  Speaker 3: or radar, then they mail you a speeding ticket. I
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  Speaker 3: am against it, says a texter. Yeah, that's happened to somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, says a Texter. Let me check this out.
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  Speaker 3: Hang in with me, Sussman, I haven't forgot about you,
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  Speaker 3: all right, all right, mister Pisitela just sent me a
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  Speaker 3: Textas says. There is not a law requiring employees to
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  Speaker 3: be from West Virginia. But all of our member companies
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  Speaker 3: are domiciled in West Virginia. I would say over ninety
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  Speaker 3: percent of our employees are West Virginia residents. That's X
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  Speaker 3: Texter X and he shall receive. Tom Sussman is here.
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  Speaker 12: Doing well? Well, you don't get abused like on Steam Release.
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  Speaker 3: I might say that's old.
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  Speaker 12: That says a lot too, I do I do doing
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  Speaker 12: well this morning, doing well this morning?
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  Speaker 3: All right, So let me mention this coming up with
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  Speaker 3: Canal Charleston Newman Association will be here with this week's
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  Speaker 12: You're taking care of that already, Tom, Yeah, I fell
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  Speaker 12: into this trap where I was told, don't get anything
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  Speaker 12: that is the worst.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 12: Don't get flyers, don't get chocolate, and you know what
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  Speaker 12: that means.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you better get it better, you better get it,
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  Speaker 3: you better well. Mary Claire Akers is going to be
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  Speaker 3: marrying a lot of people up tomorrow. We had her
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  Speaker 3: on the show earlier this week. She's doing that King
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  Speaker 3: of Hearts thing and we'll check in with her live
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: from the courthouse tomorrow to see how many people are
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  Speaker 3: going to get us. And they do. We learned this.
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  Speaker 3: They do.
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  Speaker 13: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to have uh uh the word has
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  Speaker 3: case me. What is it when you call, when you
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  Speaker 3: when you the when you re up your marriage?
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  Speaker 14: What I can't think of the word that really says
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  Speaker 14: something bad about you? And I I'm telling you, uh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 14: like they're recommittal committal. Yeah, they're doing renewing of the viral.
• 33:54
  Speaker 14: They're renewing the vows that if you want to do
• 33:55
  Speaker 14: that as well. This guy is political column column this
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  Speaker 14: radio guy, one time legisla lobbyists, Captain of ships, Grammy
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: Award winner?
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  Speaker 3: Is that too much? Tom Susan, definitely not Grammy Award Winner.
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: I was the only guy I ever kicked out the
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  Speaker 12: Beckley Junior High choir because I couldn't think. So I
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  Speaker 12: carry that shame my hold.
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  Speaker 7: Where are you are?
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: You completely out of the game now? I mean you
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  Speaker 3: had your consulting.
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: I do some public affairs work and do some public relations,
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: but no, I don't lobby. I mean it was like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: this is like the greatest session ever for the first day.
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: I went up there, got a couple interviews for the
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: radio stations and like no pressure.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's kind of kind of cool to
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  Speaker 3: just sit back and watch, like John Lennon said, man
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: watching the wheels, just sit back and you are a
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: radio guy. You're you got some radio stations including WMOV
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  Speaker 3: and Ravenswood and some others out there.
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: So yeah, so it's the I'm in joint life.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: All right. Well that's good, all right, So, uh, stay
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the state. We'll get into some specifics later, but overall,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: give me your view on the state of the state
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: last night.
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: It's markedly different. How every governor's delivery is different. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: would suggest to you that Governor morrises was more of
• 34:55
  Speaker 12: a traditional delivery than say it was justice. We didn't
• 34:58
  Speaker 12: have any pets or hight boards or props. I think
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: compared to Joe Manchin, Joe was a little more charismatic
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: in the way he did things. I think Morrisey and
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: Bob Wise their delivery are pretty similar to both policy wonks,
• 35:14
  Speaker 12: and not to be offensive, but I think they understand
• 35:17
  Speaker 12: the policies that they're bringing forward, where sometimes I'm not
• 35:20
  Speaker 12: sure governors really understand the minute details but the bigger picture.
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: So it's kind of fun to watch the different folks.
• 35:27
  Speaker 12: I do have one bone to pick. I really wish
• 35:29
  Speaker 12: they could get the audio worked out in the stream.
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: I mean, it's just it's But aside from that, it
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: was really good and I think he delivered a solid
• 35:38
  Speaker 12: state of the State speech.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought it was a good speech.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And now I'm not talking about necessarily content, you know,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about just as somebody who looks at how
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: did he do from an oratory standpoint, I thought he
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: I thought he did a good job. As you said,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: not a whole lot of you know it. It was
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: a traditional speech that you would give governor, as you
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: see governors across America giving. It wasn't you know that
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: that different refer learn too a mountain state comeback. And
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: one thing that I thought was interesting is that he
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: said something to the effect of, we inherited a mess
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: here and we're gonna get that mountain say come back. Okay.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: That's that kind of will put up a flag to me,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: you know, to say okay. Well, and he kind of
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: explained what he did. There's this question about the budget
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. But I wonder how
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you know Senator now, Senator Justice thought about that, or
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: maybe you know when he heard we inherited a mess here.
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think there's probably some ruffled feathers either in
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: Greenbrier County or DC this morning. But to move change,
• 36:41
  Speaker 12: you have to define the problem that you have. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: this is the one time a governor gets to speak
• 36:46
  Speaker 12: to the whole state, and so he has to lay
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: out and explain why he's doing what he's doing. There's
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: going to be a two percent budget reduction across all budgets.
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: He talks about that, there's going to be a future
• 36:57
  Speaker 12: kind of doge activity in the state. So you really
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: can't do that if you're saying everything's rosy and things
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: are great and we got So he had to define
• 37:05
  Speaker 12: the problem and I think he's done that. The problem
• 37:09
  Speaker 12: i'm hearing from the legislators, and not last night, but
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: I'm hearing from legislators is they don't believe there's the
• 37:13
  Speaker 12: problem as defied, and he's going to have to convince
• 37:17
  Speaker 12: the legislature that in fact, there is a problem and
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: these are the steps we're taking.
• 37:21
  Speaker 11: To do that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: And look, it's straight out at what you're saying is
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: and I'm not disagreeing or agreeing, but it's straight out
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: of the Trump playbook, which is I am your savior,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to come in and I'm going to
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: fight for you, and I'm going to clean up all
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: these things. And again, a lot of the people, you
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: know what, ninety nine point nine percent of them, which
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: are Republicans that are around him, and the former governor's going,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: you know what, the hell man?
• 37:42
  Speaker 12: And I think it's an issue. But I mean, Gaston
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: Caverdin did the same thing to Archmoren. I'm gonna shut
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: my age. He came in and talked about how bad
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: the budget deficit is and then that set the ground
• 37:49
  Speaker 12: for a four hundred million.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Dollar tax increase.
• 37:52
  Speaker 12: So you have to you have to define the situation
• 37:55
  Speaker 12: in order to make a change. I don't fault him
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: for it. I think if I were Larry Pack, Bryant Abraham,
• 38:00
  Speaker 12: I'd feel a little blistered this morning.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think Larry Pack would ge blistered
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: about anything, to be honest with you, Abraham. Maybe I
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: don't know about Larry Pack. He's the most easy going
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: guy in to word. But I agree with that. Tex says,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: is it our rocket ship rite in reverse sos A
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: text like a good way to put it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 12: Guys, I've been in office for thirty days. Let's at
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: least let them get the train out of the station
• 38:19
  Speaker 12: first before we start talking about that. But there are
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: a number of people who during the Justice administration were
• 38:26
  Speaker 12: concerned about the finances because you didn't have the long
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: term budget forecast. There were issues that you couldn't see forward.
• 38:33
  Speaker 12: But then I talked to people in the budget in
• 38:36
  Speaker 12: the Justice administration. They said, the problem is that people
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: who were putting those budget forecasts together were so pessimistic
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: that they were making decisions that actually hurt the outcome
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: of the state because they were afraid to spend dollars
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: that needed to be spent. So the legislature is going
• 38:50
  Speaker 12: to have to figure that one out.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Talking to Tom Sussman Political, What's what title do I
• 38:55
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want to call me, whatever, Let me get
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• 39:13
  Speaker 3: of Health and Human Services. Tech says his speech wasn't
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: specific enough. Is he going to follow Trump's cut twenty
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: percent state jobs or offer any buyouts? You know, he
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: did say, and I heard a quote. Our news team
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: caught up with delicate Kaylee Young afterwards, and she took
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: a little bit of it. And I'm not trying to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: put words into Kaylee Young's mouth, but she kind of
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: put I think took offense that it was almost like
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: he was taking a shot in her her view on
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: state workers by saying that we're gonna find all this
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: money like they're harboring money or something in these programs.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they are aren't, but you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I could see where people might that might rub some
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: people the wrong way.
• 39:54
  Speaker 12: Yeah, in the defense. And here's where it's gonna happens.
• 39:57
  Speaker 12: What is the definition of waste? Lot of people a
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: state park is a waste of money. They think if
• 40:03
  Speaker 12: it's something people want to have, they how to just
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: write a check and pay for an entrance fee. Well,
• 40:07
  Speaker 12: and I'm not saying that more she's going to do that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 12: Other people think state parks are crucial governmental service. So
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: you know it's going to be dependent on it going
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: to depend on exactly where he goes with it. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: think we can need to look and see what happens
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: with PIA. I think you need to know what happens
• 40:22
  Speaker 12: in terms of these different departments. And the reality is
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: any organization can stand to cut two three four percent.
• 40:29
  Speaker 12: I don't care what organization it is. But the question is,
• 40:31
  Speaker 12: then when do you get down to crucial governmental.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Service right and when does it start, as you said,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: affecting services. So it's one thing you know if you're
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: going to cut back on the number of people, but
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: in the end, if the public gets screwed, and then
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you really have accomplished a whole lot.
• 40:45
  Speaker 12: So the contradiction of terms last night, West Virginia is
• 40:48
  Speaker 12: the fiftieth state on public health. Today at one thirty
• 40:51
  Speaker 12: or one o'clock incented Health, it's the vaccine rollback bill
• 40:55
  Speaker 12: for school age vaccines. Clearly the only thing we do
• 40:57
  Speaker 12: correct in terms of the public health that's going to pass.
• 41:01
  Speaker 12: Then maybe that puts us back behind Puerto Rico when
• 41:05
  Speaker 12: you start bringing the territories in again, not here at
• 41:08
  Speaker 12: the debate whether we should be doing vaccines or not.
• 41:10
  Speaker 12: But if you want to hang about public health, and
• 41:12
  Speaker 12: there is a wide variety of what is public health?
• 41:15
  Speaker 12: Are we going to work on doing restaurants and making
• 41:18
  Speaker 12: sure the food's safe. But at the same time we're
• 41:21
  Speaker 12: talking about on the national level doing away with the
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: CDC or CDC services. So I think they're going to
• 41:27
  Speaker 12: have to determine exactly what it is they want to
• 41:29
  Speaker 12: do because there are some contradictory messages there.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Texas Governor Morrissey's address was non inspirational and his demeanor
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: is not one to make one want to follow him.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Tex says, If there is such a giant physical mess
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: why isn't some of this being thrown to Eric tar
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: chairman of the Advance Committee, and not just Jim says
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: A textra textas says, your guest is spot on. I
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• 41:53
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• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Now that's not mine. It's pretty good.
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: I need your address so I can send you five dollars.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I mentioned though this and we'll do this, and we'll
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: go to break, we'll come back. I mentioned this on
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the show yesterday. On Tuesday, I was at the Capitol
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: and helping because we started our live broadcasting with talk
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Line over there, and I was all there doing some
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: stuff with with with TJ and some other folks, and
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: you get a chance to just go talk to people
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: and kind of off the record, and where I'm not
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: a journalist, I can, you know, sometimes get to because
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go back and write anything, just
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: gonna say, well, tell me what you think about talking
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: to a few and these are Republicans. These were all
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Republicans I talked to off the record, which is kind
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: of on the record, but I'm not gonna mention their names.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: They seem to think it's going to be a rocky session.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I had one prominent Republican who said, it's going to
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: be and I'll clean it up. It's going to be
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: an s show, right, is it? It don't be that bad
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: time you've been around a while.
• 42:50
  Speaker 12: Well, there's always this, like you know, So you have
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: the legislature who believes they're in charge. You have the
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: governor's office who believes they're in charge. We have a
• 42:58
  Speaker 12: strong budget powers of the governor in West Virginia, but
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: we have a low bar for vetos on other legislation.
• 43:05
  Speaker 12: So they're going to have to work together. I understand
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: that the governor's new legislative liaison, who's not from West Virginia,
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: basically told everybody that if they wanted to talk to
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: department heads, they have to go through the Governor's office.
• 43:16
  Speaker 12: And I think some members went really really took offense
• 43:20
  Speaker 12: to that, But then again, that's just learning stuff. They'll
• 43:23
  Speaker 12: learn it. When I was in the Wise administration, we
• 43:25
  Speaker 12: had a couple of things that came out of the
• 43:28
  Speaker 12: Chief of Staff's office at the time that made no sense,
• 43:30
  Speaker 12: and very quickly those get cleaned up. So if there
• 43:33
  Speaker 12: is some acrimony between the Legislature and the House and
• 43:38
  Speaker 12: Senate on communication, that'll get cleaned up. There's growing paints.
• 43:41
  Speaker 12: I mean, you've got a brand new administration. You got
• 43:43
  Speaker 12: twenty new delegates, I don't know, ten to fifteen new Senates, all.
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  Speaker 3: Of the Board of Public Works except for the ad Commissioner.
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  Speaker 12: So it's growing paints. I got new Senate president, new
• 43:53
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• 43:59
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• 44:01
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  Speaker 3: Tom Sussman is here. One of the things the governor
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  Speaker 3: brought up last night was certificate of need. And I've had,
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  Speaker 3: I know, the folks with Americans for Prosperity and other
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: groups have been really really you know, trying to get
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  Speaker 3: what exactly certificate of need is and why do so
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  Speaker 3: many people want to get rid of it?
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: Okay, Certificate of need basically helps allocate healthcare services in
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  Speaker 12: looking to build MRIs, and the reality was the thought
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  Speaker 12: was if you build one, they'll come. In other words,
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  Speaker 12: if I got to spend a million dollars on an MRI,
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  Speaker 12: I'm going to fill the thing up with patients. And
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  Speaker 12: that was the fear. Then the other fear is because
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  Speaker 12: we have so much Medicaid that if if the emergency
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  Speaker 12: rooms and whatnot don't have that flow of patients into
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  Speaker 12: the hospitals, then they're not going to be able to
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  Speaker 12: support the emergency room and the indigent care and the
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  Speaker 12: Medicaid care which is.
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  Speaker 3: In our cost.
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  Speaker 12: The flip is, though the businesses are saying, hey, look
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  Speaker 12: we want to negotiate for prices and contracts, and because
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  Speaker 12: there's not enough competition in the marketplace, we can't negotiate. Well,
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  Speaker 12: the reality is they're not gonna be able to negotiate
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  Speaker 12: because every provider only works for one or two systems,
• 48:38
  Speaker 12: and nobody has a system that's stay wide in other
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: states where there's more private pay. But then there are
• 48:44
  Speaker 12: some services that arguably you could say, look, these are
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: more restrained to trade and really don't get into the
• 48:49
  Speaker 12: basic provision of care. Said that, in a minute and
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  Speaker 12: a half, I've probably confused everybody from Poka to Bancroft
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  Speaker 12: and back again. But there is there's truth somewhere in
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  Speaker 12: the middle of that one, and it's going to take
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  Speaker 12: a while to work through that. It sounds simple, it's
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  Speaker 12: not simple on either side, and each side would like
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  Speaker 12: you to think it's a simple yes or no.
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  Speaker 3: dot com. We begin our live coverage from the capital
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  Speaker 3: the talk line with Meadows and Wilson. Let's go now
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  Speaker 3: to the state capitol. And I understand that northern Dave
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  Speaker 3: Wilson is there. Good morning, buddy, Yeah, it's right up.
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  Speaker 6: Made my way south today, Dave.
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  Speaker 3: All right, you're not in my territory now. I got
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  Speaker 3: from like Ripley down. You got Ripley up. That's the
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  Speaker 3: Dave line.
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  Speaker 16: Right, you know what, I think that's fair. I think
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  Speaker 16: that is a fair distinction in the great state.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, all right, I got Tom Sussman here with me
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: as well. What's coming up on the Big Show the
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: first one from the Capitol for you guys today, Wilson.
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  Speaker 16: Well scheduled to have Governor Morrisey on with us right
• 50:08
  Speaker 16: off the top, talk about his State of the State
• 50:10
  Speaker 16: address last night. We're obviously going to bring up the budget,
• 50:14
  Speaker 16: but a couple of other things that came up that
• 50:16
  Speaker 16: caught our attention. One the expansion of voetech programs. What's
• 50:20
  Speaker 16: this power tech idea he's talking about. Also, want to
• 50:24
  Speaker 16: talk a little bit about education, because he identified priorities
• 50:28
  Speaker 16: such as teacher salaries, peia, alternative schools, classroom discipline. All
• 50:33
  Speaker 16: that comes to the price tags. So how do you
• 50:35
  Speaker 16: prioritize those. We'll get into that with him. Senate President
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  Speaker 16: Randy Smith will drop by. Hoppy's going to join us,
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  Speaker 16: get his thoughts as well today, guys, So full show.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Hopy, Yes, it is Hoppy Thursday? Is it not?
• 50:47
  Speaker 16: Even from the Capital? It is Hoppy Thursday. Nobody is
• 50:49
  Speaker 16: bigger than Hoppy Thursday.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll be listening. What's the mood like there
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: right now? Wilson as things, we're starting to get underwear.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I know he got underway yesterday, but today's the first
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: real day. So what's a mood like? What do you
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: hear and what are you seeing?
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  Speaker 16: Well, everybody is in a good mood because it is,
• 51:04
  Speaker 16: you know, the second day, and you're starting to ramp up.
• 51:07
  Speaker 16: But already there is some consternation, if you will, I
• 51:12
  Speaker 16: think about the budget. I think some of the lawmakers
• 51:14
  Speaker 16: who have shepherded the budget the last few years are
• 51:17
  Speaker 16: not particularly pleased with the characterization that there have been
• 51:20
  Speaker 16: structural deficiencies over the last several years that have led
• 51:24
  Speaker 16: to this budget hole. So that is a topic that
• 51:26
  Speaker 16: is being talked about. But it is day two, so
• 51:29
  Speaker 16: people are optimistic. It's kind of lightheart. It's Fairmont's state day,
• 51:32
  Speaker 16: by the way. Okay, the capital, so.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: A lot of maroon and gold here in the building. Well,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: let me know when the food is served, because I
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: know in my time in state government there is always
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: food somewhere. So when somebody has a banquet or something,
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: you guys run here, you call me, you tag me,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: and Ryan in and we're there. Okay, Yeah, I'm.
• 51:48
  Speaker 16: Waiting for the buckwheat cakes.
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  Speaker 3: That's the only reason, sustem you want to say.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, That's the nice thing about the capital is every
• 51:55
  Speaker 12: day a different group comes up and you get really
• 51:57
  Speaker 12: good exposure in the state.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So we'll talk to you guys at ten
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  Speaker 3: o six. Thanks a lot, man, all right, guys, talk
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  Speaker 3: to a minute. All right. Dave Wilson Northern Day and
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  Speaker 3: Tom Sussman is here with us. Tom, I appreciate it. Man, Well,
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  Speaker 3: thank you, sir. Just sit back as I you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: as I reference John Lennon watch the Wheels. Man, I'll
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: have you on the show anytime you want to talk
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: about his good stuff. Man time coming up by tomorrows
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: show again, we'll talk a little pet action with Hannah
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Gardner from the Kana Charles New Main Association with this
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: week's Adopt Me Please pet of the Week. Also, we'll
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: go live to the Kannaugh Handy Courthouse tomorrow for the
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: King of Hearts. It's Valentine's Day and Judge Mary Claire
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Acer's marrying up some folks. We'll talk to her and
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: kind of get a handle on what's going on there.
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  Speaker 3: My producer was Ryan Nicholson. Thank you so much. I
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  Speaker 3: will see you tomorrow. Till then have fun. I Love
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