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Nicole Saphier vs. Casey Means For Surgeon General

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Is it easier to change the medical establishment from the inside or the outside?

In this clip from our episode "MAHA Split Over New Surgeon General," hosts David E. Williams and John Driscoll break down what separated Casey Means from Nicole Saphier, and why the switch from outsider advocate to credentialed insider may say everything about how health reform actually gets done.

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