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The Kenny Report | 25 March · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for watching the Kenny Report tonight. The fuel crisis escalates.
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  Speaker 2: Prices are sky high and some petrol stations are running dry,
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  Speaker 2: but the Climate and Energy Minister remains as smug as ever.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get an overview on where the Middle East war
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  Speaker 2: is heading with Tom Switzer and cross to Esther Krakhu
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  Speaker 2: in London to see how the UK might get involved.
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  Speaker 2: Back here, the National Broadcaster goes on strike, but it's
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  Speaker 2: staff use our national broadcasting infrastructure to campaign for their
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  Speaker 2: own pay rise at our expense before they hit the pub.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen will join me too.
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  Speaker 2: The Coalition's lee blythe won't and we'll talk through it
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  Speaker 2: all with James Bolt and Denika the Georgio.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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  Speaker 2: The national fuel crisis is ramping up on price and supply.
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  Speaker 2: Diesel is selling for around three dollars a liter and more.
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  Speaker 2: That's up more than a dollar on a month ago,
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  Speaker 2: and petrol prices likewise are up around a dollar a liter.
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  Speaker 2: That's a hell of a hit to commuters, adding fifty
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  Speaker 2: dollars or more for a tank of fuel, and for farmers,
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  Speaker 2: industry and transport companies. This is a massive spike that's
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  Speaker 2: crippling them and pushing prices up across industry and in supermarkets.
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  Speaker 1: That's bad news for inflation, which edged.
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  Speaker 2: Down from three point eight to three point seven percent today,
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  Speaker 2: but that was based largely on last month's low fuel prices,
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  Speaker 2: so those numbers are already out of date and blown
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  Speaker 2: to smithereens. An inflation spike is on the way. Petrol
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  Speaker 2: prices are really starting to hit home in the economy
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  Speaker 2: and with working families, and they're fueling anger too.
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  Speaker 3: They need to stop the excise now, not next week,
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  Speaker 3: not next month. Two weeks ago it cost me fifteen
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars to fill this truck up. Today at four
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  Speaker 3: and a half thousand, I.
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  Speaker 4: Went, you were seven to eleven.
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  Speaker 5: There was no diesel at all.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a farmer.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here in Griffith. We're going for a great harvest.
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  Speaker 1: All this bs they want to do, Lisa, and all
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  Speaker 1: they've got to do is drop their exercise until these
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  Speaker 1: lady things over and fuel shortages.
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  Speaker 2: Shortages are also starting to spread, with one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty seven petrol stations running out of diesel in New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales and thirty two of them with no fuel
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  Speaker 2: at all. Queensland has fifty five stations without diesel and
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  Speaker 2: thirty five without unleaded, while Victoria has one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: thirty four stations running dry on one fuel or another,
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  Speaker 2: and there's forty nine stations without fuel.
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  Speaker 1: In South Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Seven are missing one fuel or another in Tazzi and
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  Speaker 2: in WA six have no fuel and four others have
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  Speaker 2: no diesel. But there's good news for Camera.
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  Speaker 6: That service stations with no diesel in the Act are
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  Speaker 6: normally having that reptified in a matter of ours.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't that a relief now?
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  Speaker 2: Earlier today Chris Bowen was again talking the crisis down
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  Speaker 2: as he ruled out rationing.
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  Speaker 6: What we have said is we have more as much
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  Speaker 6: fuel in Australia today as we had the day that
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  Speaker 6: Iran was bonded. We have had real issues in regional Australia,
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  Speaker 6: in particular getting the fuel to people where demand has
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  Speaker 6: been very very high. Also said there's international supply risks
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  Speaker 6: going forward. We're actually pretty well placed to deal with
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  Speaker 6: those risks. There's a range of actions available to government.
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  Speaker 6: Rationing would be the absolute worst case planning purpose, so
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  Speaker 6: it's not on the Agenet.
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  Speaker 1: It's all going swimming leg isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: While Pauline Hansen was calling for the implementation of emergency powers,
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  Speaker 2: which would give the government more control over supplies and prices,
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  Speaker 2: and the New South Wales opposition was calling for a
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  Speaker 2: cut in fuel size. From Canberra, Bowen was talking up
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  Speaker 2: the government's newly appointed fuels are and again tackling the
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  Speaker 2: crisis with Labour's favorite policy meetings.
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  Speaker 6: Prime Minister's called a national cabinet I've called a State
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  Speaker 6: Energy Minister's meeting. There'll be more of those meetings in
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  Speaker 6: coming days and weeks.
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  Speaker 1: We are so you are coordinating. We are.
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  Speaker 6: We are absolutely working together very closely.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: Has the petrols are started?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 6: Her work the fuel supply chain coordinator. Yes she has yeah, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: so she's already up and there.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I met with her yesterday. Prime Minister met with
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  Speaker 1: her yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously she's getting things lined up, but she's working very hard.
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  Speaker 2: If only we could run our cars on meetings. Still,
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  Speaker 2: there was some good news. And for a bloke who
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  Speaker 2: keeps telling us we've got plenty of fuel as much
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  Speaker 2: as we've ever had, Bowen sure sounded happy to announce
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  Speaker 2: there's more on the way.
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  Speaker 8: More so pleased to tell the House that industry has
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  Speaker 8: informed this morning. In addition to reply facing those six
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  Speaker 8: counciled boats, they have been able to secure at least
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  Speaker 8: three more cargo deliveries for April and May for Australia,
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  Speaker 8: over and above the normal contracted deliveries, to ensure that
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  Speaker 8: we're idealing with this this demand, Missus Speaker, there's good
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  Speaker 8: progress now. A lot there's actions have in common is
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  Speaker 8: practical action and practical action by government and industry working together.
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  Speaker 2: I'm surprised he doesn't send these ships back to keep
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  Speaker 2: our emissions down, but to given the price pressures, you'd
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  Speaker 2: think labor would at least be doing something with fuel excise.
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  Speaker 2: Now the fuel excise is levied per liter. It's not
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  Speaker 2: on the price, so CANBRA isn't reaping a wind windfall
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  Speaker 2: on xcise, but it is getting more from GST of course,
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  Speaker 2: which is ten percent on the total cost. And with
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  Speaker 2: prices up by a dollar or more, then GST on
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  Speaker 2: fuel is up by at least ten cents a liter,
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  Speaker 2: so Canbra does have financial room to provide at least
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  Speaker 2: some media term relief. I'll have more with Pauline Hanson
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  Speaker 2: on this in just a moment. Now, ABC journalists are
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  Speaker 2: paid by us to inform us on a multi billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar platform paid for by us, and today they went
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  Speaker 2: on strike, depriving us of our normal services because they
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  Speaker 2: want to force their management to give them more of
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  Speaker 2: our money.
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  Speaker 1: Seems a little unfair, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: And even worse, they used our multi billion dollar broadcasting
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure that belongs to us and that we pay for,
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  Speaker 2: not to give us the news, but to push their
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  Speaker 2: propaganda so they can get more of our money.
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  Speaker 9: They're asking ABC management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable
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  Speaker 9: jobs so we can deliver the news and content you deserve,
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  Speaker 9: but their fallen shot of offering conditions.
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  Speaker 3: We're asking ABC management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable
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  Speaker 3: jobs so we can deliver the news and content that
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  Speaker 3: you deserve.
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  Speaker 1: Just the outrageous.
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  Speaker 2: Don't they know what their job is and their duty is?
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  Speaker 2: And one politician hit the bullseye on this scandalous misuse
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  Speaker 2: of our national broadcaster.
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  Speaker 10: ABC presenters are talking about the fact that this is
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  Speaker 10: not a fair deal and that they're prosecuting their own
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  Speaker 10: case hijacking news programs, which is a breach of their
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  Speaker 10: impartiality conditions.
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  Speaker 2: Henderson is spot on. I mean, look at this bloke
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  Speaker 2: confusing today's economic news on inflation with ABC staff self interest.
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  Speaker 5: It is worth nighting Gemmo that our coverage of inflation
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  Speaker 5: and finance for the rest of the day will be
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  Speaker 5: different from usual because my colleagues and I will be
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  Speaker 5: on strike like many of our viewers. A lot of
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  Speaker 5: ABC's as struggling to keep up with the rising cost
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  Speaker 5: of living, and we're asking for a pay rise that
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  Speaker 5: will help keep our heads above water.
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  Speaker 2: That's our national broadcaster, our taxpayer funded national broadcaster, that
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  Speaker 2: he's using the one we pay for use to push
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  Speaker 2: his politics and his pay claim. You ought to be
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  Speaker 2: sacked along with all those who put him up to it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll come back to this point in a moment because
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  Speaker 2: it exposes everything that's wrong with the leftist activists who
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  Speaker 2: effectively operate our national broadcaster as a staff run collective.
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  Speaker 2: But first, what is this all about? Well, it's really
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  Speaker 2: just a pay claim. An ABC staff have been offered
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  Speaker 2: a pretty generous deal, a thousand dollars one off bonus
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  Speaker 2: and a ten percent increase over three years. Most of
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  Speaker 2: us would be pretty happy to bank that but not
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  Speaker 2: the hard working, publicly funded, union dominated mob.
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  Speaker 1: At the U S ABC.
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  Speaker 11: Apparently there's people on my team who live in Woollongong
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  Speaker 11: because they can't afford to live in Sydney, or who
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  Speaker 11: live in Newcastle because they can't afford to live in Sydney.
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  Speaker 11: There's people on my team who've been on the same
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  Speaker 11: pay level for five years, for eight years and have
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  Speaker 11: been told they won't get a promotion this time around.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the horror living in Woollongong or Newcastle. That's personal
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  Speaker 2: choices and that's so tip of of the ABC, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you're in inner city Sydney, you're camping out. The
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  Speaker 2: Green left elitism is palpable and it's completely removed from
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  Speaker 2: most of the hard working taxpayers who pay their wages.
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  Speaker 10: The decision by the ABC to go on strike today
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  Speaker 10: is an absolute disgrace.
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  Speaker 7: There has never been a.
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  Speaker 10: More important time in this country when we need ABC
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  Speaker 10: journalists and other content makers to be out in the
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  Speaker 10: field in forming Australians. We have a few crisis, we
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  Speaker 10: have a cost of living crisis, and in the Northern
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  Speaker 10: Territory and in Northern Queensland they've been hit. Many communities
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  Speaker 10: have been hit by cyclones and flants.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bit going on.
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  Speaker 2: You'd think the ABC staff would feel some obligation.
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  Speaker 1: To perform their role.
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  Speaker 2: They do have some staff keeping the joint on air,
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  Speaker 2: of course, and have made some.
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  Speaker 1: Provisions for emergency coverage.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, have a look at the way the
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  Speaker 2: ABC promotes itself.
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  Speaker 1: Questions they've never been more important.
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  Speaker 12: So the one thing we'll never question it is our
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  Speaker 12: duty to keep asking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll never question that duty to ask questions except
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  Speaker 2: for today, except for when their duty to question their
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  Speaker 2: own payoffer overpowers their duty to do their jobs. Apparently,
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  Speaker 2: asking ABC management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable jobs
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  Speaker 2: so we can deliver the news and content you deserve.
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  Speaker 13: We're asking ABC management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable.
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  Speaker 11: Jobs so we can deliver the news and content that
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  Speaker 11: you deserve.
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  Speaker 10: Secure and sustainable jobs. That mean that we can keep
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  Speaker 10: making the quality programs that you deserve.
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  Speaker 2: Secure, safe and sustainable jobs to us, so that we
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  Speaker 2: can deliver the news and content that you deserve.
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  Speaker 1: They're the use of your money. They're using your national
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  Speaker 1: broadcast now to try and boost their own pay claim.
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  Speaker 1: It is astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: And while that stuff was being broadcast on air and
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  Speaker 2: on social media, you might wonder what our cash strapped,
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  Speaker 2: publicly funded journos were up to. Well, Sydney digital reporter
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  Speaker 2: for Sky News Max oldrad track them down at a
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  Speaker 2: few inner city pubs, happily forking out Sydney prices for
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  Speaker 2: craft peers and no doubt some white wine for the
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  Speaker 2: chardonnay socialists among them.
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  Speaker 1: Not bad work if you can get it.
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  Speaker 2: If you went to ever wanted a clear demonstration of
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  Speaker 2: how the green left activists dominate debate in the Canberra
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  Speaker 2: Press Gallery, you only had to listen to how Sarah
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  Speaker 2: Henderson was questioned on this topic today.
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  Speaker 12: So why is it your business to get involved ABC
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  Speaker 12: staff issues?
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  Speaker 1: Starting under?
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  Speaker 14: Say?
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  Speaker 1: Why shouldn't they bargain aggressive it?
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  Speaker 10: For I'm the Shadow Minister for Communication, so I have
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  Speaker 10: responsibility on behalf of the opposition for the operations of
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  Speaker 10: the ABC. The ABC is accountable to the Australian people.
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  Speaker 10: And when I see ABC journalists breaching the ABC Act
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  Speaker 10: by hijacking, when I see ABC journalists breaching the ABC
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  Speaker 10: Act and the editorial policies, I just explained that before,
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  Speaker 10: I'm happy to say it again. So a number of
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  Speaker 10: ABC presenters have hijacked news programs to prosecute their case,
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  Speaker 10: to say that basically, if they don't get the pay
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  Speaker 10: they're entitled to, as they say, then news and other
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  Speaker 10: information programs are at risk. That is not appropriate. If
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  Speaker 10: ABC journists want to hold a news conference, fine, but
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  Speaker 10: they should not be hijacking news programs in breach of
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  Speaker 10: their obligations to deliver news and information impartially and accurately.
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  Speaker 2: Again, Sarah Henderson is absolutely spot on. Now the reporter
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  Speaker 2: there was Jason Katsukis. He's been in and out of
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  Speaker 2: Canberra over many decades, a longtime reporter with the Age
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  Speaker 2: and Sydney Morning Herald. He's a well known lefty journalist
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  Speaker 2: and he's now with the hard left Saturday Paper. And
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  Speaker 2: in between those jobs he was working as a spin
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  Speaker 2: doctor for the Labor government. He still appears on the
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  Speaker 2: ABC on Insiders of Course and interest that perhaps he
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  Speaker 2: should have declared today when he was ranging the shadow
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  Speaker 2: Communications Minister. But have a look at a little more
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  Speaker 2: of this press because as it wraps up, keeps up
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  Speaker 2: his haranguing and the ABC staff file passed. They're officially
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  Speaker 2: starting their strike at eleven o'clock this morning in this
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  Speaker 2: clip and as they walk past, of course they're applauded
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  Speaker 2: by other media.
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  Speaker 10: And my concern is that ABC programs have been hijacked
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  Speaker 10: by some ABC presenters in a way that I would
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  Speaker 10: suggest to you is most improper.
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  Speaker 5: And who thank you very much everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on a number of.
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  Speaker 10: I suggest that you go and do your research. But well,
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  Speaker 10: the World, the World, the World is one program I've
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  Speaker 10: also heard on ABC Radio, so that has been prosecuted
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  Speaker 10: across a number of different platforms and that's very disappointing.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks very much everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we're up against in Canberra and at the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: It's a closed loop, a feedback loop between the green
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  Speaker 2: left politicians and the green left media dominated by the
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  Speaker 2: publicly funded green left ABC, and even the ABC managing
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  Speaker 2: director was happy to use publicly funded airtime to dutch
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  Speaker 2: shove his own job by blaming his decisions.
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  Speaker 1: I'll guess what a lack of funding? Are you?
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  Speaker 15: Sorry?
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, very much so. And I'm sorry to some of
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  Speaker 16: those stuff that I feel, you know, are really really
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  Speaker 16: difficult position today because I know how difficult this can
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  Speaker 16: be for individuals I am committed to finding a right outcome,
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  Speaker 16: but that outcome has to recognize the fact that when
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  Speaker 16: my funding goes up by two point two seven to
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  Speaker 16: two point eight percent a year, there is a limit
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  Speaker 16: to how far we can go in remunerating you know,
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  Speaker 16: sixty percent of the workforce and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, even he just wants more of our money. We're
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  Speaker 2: just left to pick up the bill and where the
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  Speaker 2: consequences of a Green left media barracking for a green
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  Speaker 2: left government weakening our country. They're stuck down the camera
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  Speaker 2: now and catch up with One Nation leader, the woman
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  Speaker 2: of the moment, Pauline Hanston. Thanks for joining us, Paulina.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go onto the fuel crisis, but I've
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  Speaker 2: got to get you first up on this. The ABC
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  Speaker 2: strike today, not that you bob up on the ABC
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  Speaker 2: very often.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of this?
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  Speaker 2: The fact that they're look, if they want to go
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  Speaker 2: on strike, of course they've got the right. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's madness, but they've got the right. But they can't
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  Speaker 2: then use our public broadcaster to prosecute their case.
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  Speaker 4: I tit to agree, Chris, there's an easy answer to
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  Speaker 4: all this. Defund it the one point two billion a year.
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  Speaker 4: Then they can have to reapply for the jobs and
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  Speaker 4: beyond subscription only. So therefore keep the ABC Radio going.
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  Speaker 4: Pay for that by all means, but the rest of
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  Speaker 4: it shut them down and subscription only. People want to
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  Speaker 4: pay to watch their ABC, so be it. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: fund it anymore. I shut it down.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever I've questioned you before about policy, you told me
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  Speaker 2: to go to your website and there's plenty of policy there.
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  Speaker 1: I've been there and I've had a look around.
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  Speaker 2: I have now not found I've not been able to
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  Speaker 2: find a policy on the ABC.
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  Speaker 1: So is that your policy.
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  Speaker 4: On the AC I'm going to shut it down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've been working. Yeah, it's got to be some days
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  Speaker 4: by the people who want to watch it. Keep the
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  Speaker 4: ABC running and rural and regional areas with the ABC Radio.
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  Speaker 4: I think they do a great job. As far as
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  Speaker 4: the others, No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be feeding them
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  Speaker 4: because you know, I put out in the Parliament when
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  Speaker 4: Mitch Fairefield was there, he was a minister and I
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  Speaker 4: tried to get what was fair and balanced put in
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  Speaker 4: the charter. Never did and it's not. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: it's fair and balanced. It is paid by the taxpayers.
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  Speaker 4: People expect fair and balance program to put across slip
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  Speaker 4: and fund themselves.
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  Speaker 2: It's nowhere near fair and balanced. It is left wing propaganda,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: But are you saying that what one nation's policy would
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  Speaker 2: be to maintain local and rural radio and make the
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  Speaker 2: rest of it a subscription service?
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  Speaker 4: Correct? Correct? It's lost its ratings, it's not getting many
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  Speaker 4: people watching it the cost of one point two billion
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  Speaker 4: a year to the taxpayer. I think it's unrealistic. And
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  Speaker 4: let them see if people want to watch their programs.
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  Speaker 2: Gee, Pauline, if you talk like that about the ABC,
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  Speaker 2: they might start attacking you.
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  Speaker 4: Well, bring it on.
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  Speaker 1: I feel sarcastic.
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  Speaker 2: They've done nothing but attack you for the last thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to this, let's go to this fuel crisis.
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  Speaker 2: There are calls now from the New South Wales opposition
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  Speaker 2: leader Kelly Sloan for a reduction in fuel exercise from Canbra.
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  Speaker 1: Is she right?
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  Speaker 2: Should Canberra be taking less tax to try and help
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  Speaker 2: people get through?
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  Speaker 4: Of course they should, and I support that reduction and
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  Speaker 4: fuel exercise tax. Let me tell you some information that
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  Speaker 4: I've out with the increase in the fuel. Of course
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: they're getting more in GST. Apparently the federal government is
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: making three hundred million dollars a month off the GST
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: extra three hundred million a month extra and GST from
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: the fuel crisis. So that's disgusting the way it's going.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I don't trust Chris Bow on what he's telling us.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: I've spoken to a fuel distributor. He's torn between giving
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: fuel to Tamworth or to do itb or to the
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: local council that needs it as well. He said he's
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: got people that are crying on his shoulder that they
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: need fuel. Whether it's farmer. There's cotton grower he can't
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: pick his cotton. You've got other growers. The milk industry,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: they said they can't deliver their milk. He said milk
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: price is going to go skyrocket. The add on effects
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: with all this, it is a crisis and rural unregional Australia.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt Camera is getting a lot more money.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't dispute that figure, but I know it's about
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: ten cents a liter right because prices have gone up
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: about it dollar or liter so far. They get ten
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: percent to GST on that so they're getting ten cents
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: of leader. So if you fill up a seventy liter automobile,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: a normal family truct so there's an extra seven dollars
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: going to Canberra.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: So eighty cents.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Or seven dollars all.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Lead and that's what the government begin.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and they're getting an extra extra seventy cents
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: or so out of that. So someone you know, they
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: can't cut the excise overall. But I'm under the Howard government,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: we saw the excised. Sorry, under the Morrison government we
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: saw the excis halved for a while. They are happy
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to take the cost to the budget. It might be
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: worth that in these times, w wasn't it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Look you have to help the families out there because
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: they are struggling with the cost of incourse. Interest rates
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: have just gone up again this last couple of weeks,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: so people are struggling terribly. A lot of people now
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: not being able to go to work. It's cost of fuel.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: But I think, Chris, the main thing is that we
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: have to ensure the rural and regional areas have fueled,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: especially the farming sector. They desperately need it. Otherwise you're
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: going to see lack of fuel in our shopping on
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: our shopping shelves, you're going to see the increase in
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: cost of living that will go up. Then bow And
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: is said, all along, we've got the same amount of
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: fuel as what we have. You know, there's no crisis here.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Do you know that we actually at that time when
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: I saw it earlier this week, we had round about
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: nineteen plus so many days on water. So we're looking
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: at twenty twenty five and twenty seven days across the
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: three levels of fuel that's diesel and aviation fuel. So
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: now he's saying, we've got plenty of fuel. Well, if
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: we've got plenty of fuel, why are we running out
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: of it? Why are these they saying they can't get it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what's happening. There's an extortion that's going on.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: So you've got the fuel tankers at Landing. It's put
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: into the tanks here. Then you've got the big conglomerates
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: out there. They're controlling it, so they're not passing on
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: to the independence and this is going to be destroying
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: the independent fuel suppiers out there, these garages where the
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: big business begin to town. The extortion that is going on. Now,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: a tanker of seventy four thousand leaders. That's costing for
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: delivery just under two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. A
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: lot of these small because cost of fuel's gone up.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: These small independent fuel suppliers are garages. They can't afford
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: that and they can't get credit. They're not giving them credit,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: so that's why they can't buy for pay for this
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: fuel to put into the fuel things. So that I
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: believe there's extortion going on.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: That'll we push to the wall if that goes on.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: The distribution is a massive problem. Let's have a listen
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: to the labor premiere of New South Wales.
• 22:43
  Speaker 17: What we're seeing is the lumpy distribution of fuel in
• 22:46
  Speaker 17: the economy today. We want to make sure that all
• 22:49
  Speaker 17: sectors of the state, at all parts of the economy
• 22:53
  Speaker 17: have access to it, particularly independent petrol stations where we're
• 22:57
  Speaker 17: seeing a persistent lack of access to peer.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Well, his comments suggest to underscore your point that the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: independence are being squeezed out. We need and as you say,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: we need access to those areas that are supplying us
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: with food and the rest of it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So there needs to be priorities.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It does not stack up Chris Bowen's claim that we've
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: got as much fuel as ever does not stack up
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: when we've got so many stations running dry because most
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of us haven't got Jerry cans or whatever most of us.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: All we can do is is when we see this situation,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: fill up our car. That's all that you can do.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: You can hardly get We could hardly run so much
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of the country out of fuel.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But just by doing that, Chris, what we have to do.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Is investigate the cost what they're charging for this. If
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: this fuel has been on land, then why are we
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: charging more for it now at the bows and these
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: companies allowed to charge whatever they want to. I understand
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: supply and demand, but on fuel crisis, it has me.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I think it needs the government needs to step in
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and see what they're charging. As I said, these big
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: organizations are actually wanting to get rid of the smaller
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: independent fuel stations, and that's why they can't get to
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: flow on to distribution to get the fuel to supply
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: to the smaller ones. It's so that's why we call
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: now for the government to take bringing the Act of
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four and call it a crisis that it is.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I don't trust Bowen. I don't trust a damn thing
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: that he tells us. All the people don't. Everything's all right.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: He said, we didn't have a crisis, and we had
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: a crisis. We had fuel. Then you can't get fuel delivery.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Then he says the ships were coming, Well the ships
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: didn't turn up. So it's just one thing after another.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: He's I think he's concerned about it, but he doesn't
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: want to tell the people the truth.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems to be putting on a brow face,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: smug and confident as ever, but he is that way
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: over our electricity grid is it too goes into turmoil
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I've got to.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Ask you about the latest Sky News Pulse poll. It's
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: got one nation still going high. You're up another percentage point.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: You're only two percent federally behind Labor now and that's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: extraordinary with the Coalition languishing at nineteen percent.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: We've got to take these.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Poles seriously because what we saw in South Australia on
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the weekend perfectly mirrored what was being polled. So you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: just must be locking your lips when you think of
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the Pharaoh by election.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Not to mention Victoria later in the year.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Chris, the Bara election by election will be on ninth
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: of May. There's still work to be done before that
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: election is to convince the people that to vote for
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: One Nation and that electorate to deal with the issues
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: are important to them. So look, it's wonderful see those polls,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: and I know it did translate at the South Australians
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: state elections, but that's one state. We have to keep
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: working hard to prove to people we have the policies,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: we have the nous to be able to turn this
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: country around. As I keep saying, One Nation is about
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: the party to get our country back. You mentioned a
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: party with the hope and trust end of Pauling Hanson.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Now you're officially recognized as a party with Barnaby Joyce
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: coming on board.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: You've got to pay rise of one hundred grand. What
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: are you going to do with that?
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Oh wow, Chris, let's take the text out of it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Did you ask the Greens leader the risk of waters
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: or I would love to lead us about their pay packet?
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Have you asked, you know, well, please do that. You
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: know I didn't go and say knocking on the door
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: say I want to pay rise. You know that was
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: part part of the position of becoming a parliamentary party
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: with the coming see responsibilities that goes with it as well,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: so you know it's what's given to us. You know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: some of these these people and vice chancellors around nine
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand legus. I'm happy with my Yes they are
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: and some of these are.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: They are some of them. The ABC that seven days lot.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Can be rained in, Chris, the whole lot can be
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: rained in as far as I'm concerned.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Great stuff, Pauline, thanks for talking to you, appreciate it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: That's the One Nation leader. Pauline Hanson riding high in
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: the polls at the moment, joining us live from camp.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: We've got to take a break. On the other side,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I want to get an overview about the war of
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: the Middle East, the war on Iran, where it's heading.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Tom Switzer will join me where one day in the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's new five day deadline for Iran to strike
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: a deal with the US and Israel, with the reports
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: thousands of troops are on their way to the Middle East,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: War Secretary Pete Hegseith has worn the campaign will continue
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: if Iran doesn't come to the table.
• 27:29
  Speaker 15: Have a listen, we negotiate with bombs. You have a
• 27:34
  Speaker 15: choice as we loiter over the top of Tehran, as
• 27:36
  Speaker 15: the President.
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: Talked about about your future.
• 27:39
  Speaker 15: President has made it clear that you will not have
• 27:41
  Speaker 15: a nuclear weapon. The War Department agrees. Our job is
• 27:44
  Speaker 15: to ensure that, and so we're keeping our hand on
• 27:46
  Speaker 15: that throttle as long as as hard as it's necessary.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is international affairs expert and columnists with
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the Australian Tom Switzer. Good to repeat to you again, Tom,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: is there and the ghostiation going on here or not?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Iran denies it well.
• 28:03
  Speaker 18: Donald Trump's incentive is to calm the markets with the
• 28:06
  Speaker 18: news of diplomatic progress. There is talk about the Pakistanis
• 28:10
  Speaker 18: and even the Chinese putting pressure on the Iranians to
• 28:13
  Speaker 18: come to the negotiating table. The problem, though, at this stage,
• 28:17
  Speaker 18: is that prospects for a meaningful peace deal between Tehran
• 28:20
  Speaker 18: and Washington virtually zero because the objectives are fundamentally incompatible.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to imagine any deal being struck by
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the current regime in Iran because essentially it's a Islamist
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: theocracy that is committed to opposition to the US and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the distraction of Israel, and it would have to sacrifice
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: its whole its whole life's meaning to do a deal
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: with the US. Well, that is he trying to trigger
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: still trying to trigger an Iran a regime deplot displacement
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: within Iran.
• 28:55
  Speaker 18: That could be one option, But by negotiating with them,
• 28:57
  Speaker 18: he's already acknowledging that they have a certain degree of leverage.
• 29:01
  Speaker 18: And the Iranian regime still exists, so does their nuclear
• 29:05
  Speaker 18: program from what we can tell, and they will seek
• 29:08
  Speaker 18: to strive for a tough bargain. And the Iranians have
• 29:12
  Speaker 18: made it very clear they want reparations, they want sanctions relief,
• 29:17
  Speaker 18: and they want a nine clad commitment from the Israelis
• 29:19
  Speaker 18: and the Americans that don't strike again. Now, no American
• 29:22
  Speaker 18: leader will go along with that. But at the same time,
• 29:25
  Speaker 18: the Uranians have made it clear that they won't conform
• 29:28
  Speaker 18: to Washington and Jerusalem's expectations, which is no enrichment of uranium,
• 29:33
  Speaker 18: no ballistic missiles, and no support for their militia proxies.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So the war goes on.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: So is this five day period really an effort to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: calm the situation?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: As well?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: While he gets more military assets, that is, Trump gets
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: more military assets into the region.
• 29:47
  Speaker 18: Well, as I said, he's trying to calm the markets.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Worked already.
• 29:52
  Speaker 18: How long it lasts is a question, that's right, it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 18: calm the markets at least, you know he's kicked the
• 29:55
  Speaker 18: can down the road, so the old price has gone down,
• 29:58
  Speaker 18: markets have rallied, and he may be waiting for a
• 30:01
  Speaker 18: time where he does take seriously the idea of regime change.
• 30:05
  Speaker 18: But if he's serious about regim change, Chris, that means
• 30:08
  Speaker 18: he'll have to commit ground troops and casualties will be
• 30:11
  Speaker 18: very unpopular in a war that is already very unpopular.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You talk about Iran having leverage, most of that surely
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is the strait of hor Mules. It seems unfathomable that
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: America and Israel didn't have a better plan to clear
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the strait right at the outset, because that is where
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: they literally bring a pincer movement to the global economy.
• 30:35
  Speaker 18: Well, one of the reasons, one of the main reasons
• 30:37
  Speaker 18: why presidents from George W.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Bush right through to.
• 30:40
  Speaker 18: Trump and Biden avoided the idea of strike, of executing
• 30:45
  Speaker 18: strikes against Iran, was that they recognized in their wargames
• 30:50
  Speaker 18: that Iran, with its ballistic missiles, had the capability of
• 30:53
  Speaker 18: shutting down the Straits of Julmus, which accounts for twenty
• 30:56
  Speaker 18: percent of global oil and energy. So it's not just
• 31:00
  Speaker 18: the straight of hor moves. It's also what the Iranians
• 31:02
  Speaker 18: are now doing or have been doing, to US military
• 31:06
  Speaker 18: installations and energy infrastructure all across the Sunni Gulf States.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Look, I'm going to ask you, perhaps to the impossible hear,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: that is, to sort of break down and interpret what
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is saying.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But this one struck me as a little bit of bleak.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Have a listened.
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: Do you think I trust them? I don't trust them.
• 31:26
  Speaker 13: They did something yesterday that was amazing. Actually, they gave
• 31:29
  Speaker 13: us a present and the president arrived today. There was
• 31:34
  Speaker 13: a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money,
• 31:38
  Speaker 13: and they gave it to us and they said they
• 31:39
  Speaker 13: were going to give it. So that meant one thing
• 31:41
  Speaker 13: to me. We're dealing with the right people.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: So what was this present? I have absolutely no idea.
• 31:47
  Speaker 18: But I think he recognizes he's probably made a monumental mistake.
• 31:51
  Speaker 18: He just assumed that by striking at Iran, killing the
• 31:55
  Speaker 18: eye Tyler, fifty or so military generals, that that would
• 32:00
  Speaker 18: be enough to bring down the regime. He probably in hindsight,
• 32:03
  Speaker 18: should have followed the advice off his America first instincts
• 32:08
  Speaker 18: and follow the advice of those intellectuals who are cautioning
• 32:11
  Speaker 18: against going down this road.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still optimistic. I don't know why, but have
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: a listened to the president again.
• 32:18
  Speaker 13: I don't want to say this, but they have to.
• 32:21
  Speaker 13: They said, Pete in general reason, can I think this
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: things are going to be settled very soon? Here they go, Oh,
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: that's too bad.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Pete didn't want it to be.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Settled settled very soon? Why would he be saying that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 18: Well, he'd have to have evidence that the regime is collapsing,
• 32:42
  Speaker 18: about to surrender or about to surrender. And you know,
• 32:45
  Speaker 18: there is hardly any evidence of regime change coming about
• 32:51
  Speaker 18: through air strikes alone. I mean, there's Nagasaki in Hiroshima
• 32:54
  Speaker 18: in nineteen forty five, but that's the exception to the rule.
• 32:58
  Speaker 18: If he's serious about ground, serious about regime change, he
• 33:01
  Speaker 18: needs to commit ground troops to bring down the regime
• 33:04
  Speaker 18: and find that uronium.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Extraordinary situation and ramifications around the world as we're feeling it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Tom, I appreciate Tom Switzer there.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: You can read your stuff in the Australian and elsewhere.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get to a break on the other side,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: well across to London and catch up with Esther Krakhu
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to talk about how the UK might be getting involved
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: in this.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: War on Iran.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Let's cross to the Old Art across to London and
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: catch up with the writer and broadcaster Esther krak who,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: as we do every Wednesday, great to talk to you again.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: S there are just been talking in depth about what's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: happening in Iran and the Middle East. Yet there's this
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: plan from the UK if it's to get involved in
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: trying to clear the strait of him was that it
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: might be actually leasing civilian vessels to help with this.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: What does this tell us about the UK government's attitude
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: to this war or perhaps the readiness of the UK navy.
• 34:02
  Speaker 19: Well, it certainly tells us that the UK government is
• 34:04
  Speaker 19: walking a tightrope in its kind of decision to not
• 34:08
  Speaker 19: get involved in any way in this around conflict, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 19: also recognizing that the longer that the state of Home
• 34:13
  Speaker 19: moves basically remains closed, the more that is going to
• 34:17
  Speaker 19: push oil prices up and put Western governments in particular
• 34:20
  Speaker 19: and precarious situations. This is actually part of an ongoing
• 34:24
  Speaker 19: plan coalition between the US, the UK and French Army
• 34:28
  Speaker 19: to kind of see how their naval forces can help
• 34:31
  Speaker 19: reopen the straight of holl Moos. So the Ministry of
• 34:33
  Speaker 19: Defense is looking at leasing commercial vessels, which really kind
• 34:36
  Speaker 19: of feels like Dunkirk all over again in the Second
• 34:40
  Speaker 19: World War. And part of the reason for this is
• 34:42
  Speaker 19: because the Navy's last basically mining vessel anti mining vessel,
• 34:48
  Speaker 19: which is HOS Middleton, was actually taken out of commission
• 34:51
  Speaker 19: in Bahrain earlier this year, which was terrible timing clearly,
• 34:54
  Speaker 19: and it just shows the extent to which the armed
• 34:56
  Speaker 19: forces have been hollowed out, because you know, historically we
• 35:00
  Speaker 19: used to have about four of these anti underwater missile
• 35:04
  Speaker 19: vessels in the region and now we have basically none,
• 35:08
  Speaker 19: and like I said, the last one was basically decommissioned
• 35:10
  Speaker 19: earlier this year, so sorry.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: The plan would be to leased these civilian vessels, but
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: they would be stocked with mainly drones and obviously given
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: some protection, but the drones would use these vessels to
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: go off then and search around for mines and torpedoes.
• 35:28
  Speaker 19: And the like, precisely to get rid of mines put
• 35:32
  Speaker 19: by the Iranian regime and it just shows that our
• 35:35
  Speaker 19: kind of readiness in the region for any sort of
• 35:37
  Speaker 19: conflict of this has basically be completely destroyed because we
• 35:41
  Speaker 19: used to traditionally have about four in the region anywhere
• 35:45
  Speaker 19: like in the last few decades, but that has been
• 35:47
  Speaker 19: completely removed. The Ministry of Defense has recently spent about
• 35:50
  Speaker 19: forty million pounds to try and increase our anti anti
• 35:54
  Speaker 19: missile capabilities, but again that's really just a drop drop
• 35:58
  Speaker 19: in the ocean.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, if people are looking for the UK
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to get involved, then it will take a dramatic turn
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: or change of mind and change of heart from the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: UK Prime Minister.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So Kia Stama here.
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: Is all of our focus and energy has to be
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: in the swift de escalation, but we've got to plan
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: on the basis that it could go on for some time.
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: And I've been really clear with the team that we
• 36:24
  Speaker 12: mustn't fall in the sort of false comfort of thinking
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: that there will necessarily be a quick and early end
• 36:29
  Speaker 12: to this one.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: He's like our Prime minister, it's all about de escalation,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: which is just like saying we all believe in world
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: peace and should love each other. It's neither here nor there,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: but at least they are putting some plans together in
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: case they do get involved there as while while I've
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: got you, I'm asking for a little bit of service
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: from you to our nation. You see, our public broadcaster,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the ABC, is on strike at the moment, and they're
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: planning to replace some of their programming, which is almost
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: universally left when it comes to news and current affairs.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: They're going to replace their.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Green left programming with some BBC radio and television programs.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Can we expect the BBC services to be any more
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: objective and mainstream than the ABC's.
• 37:16
  Speaker 19: Well, unfortunately not, considering they've stopped all their sort period
• 37:21
  Speaker 19: dramas with diverse lesbians and all sorts of nonsense that
• 37:25
  Speaker 19: you would not have seen in the seventeenth and eighteenth
• 37:28
  Speaker 19: century Britain. I don't think, Hans, what's hope for you
• 37:31
  Speaker 19: guys either.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: So if the ABC viewers are worried about missing out
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: on their anti Israeli news and Karen affairs, and their
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: anti Trump news and Carent affairs, they won't be disappointed.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Not to worry, the BBC will give it to them.
• 37:46
  Speaker 19: Absolutely. I think the BBC is probably leading the way
• 37:49
  Speaker 19: in its complete bone deaf coverage of most things global affairs,
• 37:55
  Speaker 19: and I think most viewers can expect that kind of
• 37:58
  Speaker 19: complete drift from reality.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Now there is a story out of the UK which
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: is a flash of common sense. I would have thought
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: maybe the babys wouldn't like this one either, but that
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: is that Girl Guides have won a legal victory to
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: make sure it's really only for girls, not biological men.
• 38:14
  Speaker 19: Well you would think that it won a legal victory,
• 38:16
  Speaker 19: but actually the statement, the statement that was put out
• 38:19
  Speaker 19: by the Girl Guys has just shown how again detached
• 38:22
  Speaker 19: they are from reality. You'd be surprised that these are
• 38:24
  Speaker 19: actually organizations run by adults and not teenagers having a fit.
• 38:27
  Speaker 19: But basically this follows last year's Supreme Court decision that
• 38:31
  Speaker 19: affirmed basically biological sex as the only definition, only valid
• 38:35
  Speaker 19: definition for what count as a man or a woman,
• 38:38
  Speaker 19: and the Girl Guys basically dragged their feet, which is
• 38:40
  Speaker 19: quite horrifying if you imagine. I mean, the girl GUIDs
• 38:42
  Speaker 19: used to teach life saving skills to young girls, particularly
• 38:45
  Speaker 19: after the Second World War, and for many parents that think, oh,
• 38:49
  Speaker 19: putting my girls and the girl Guys is a good
• 38:51
  Speaker 19: form of life development would be horrified to know that
• 38:53
  Speaker 19: at some point they could have shared a room with
• 38:56
  Speaker 19: a biological man while out camping. But anyway, they've decided
• 39:00
  Speaker 19: to actually put a firm date on when transgender girl
• 39:03
  Speaker 19: guys have to leave the organization, And the statement they
• 39:06
  Speaker 19: put out basically was apologetic, saying that although we stand
• 39:09
  Speaker 19: by our values, we also have to obey the law.
• 39:11
  Speaker 19: So basically they're saying their values are select blokes into.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Again. Sorry the blokes in unbelievable. Thanks for joining us.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: This is brilliant stuff, as ever esocraft there in the UK.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: We're going to get to a break.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: After the break, Danneka to Georgia and James Bolt will wrangle.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Willis have some more on the ABC strike. Let's get
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: into the Wednesday Wrangle with Denika to Georgia. Of course
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: sky News host on here on this this is here.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: You're a Sky News contributor, James Bolt, You're not a contributor.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: You're a digital media powerhouse.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: When you said I'm not a contributor, the I've got
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: a little.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I thought the contributor was downscaling it a bit. I
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: got to get your thoughts.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Let's start with you James on this fuel crisis, especially
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: either way, Chris Bowen keep telling us it's all okay,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: don't worry about it. But there's more ships coming in
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: and there's petrol stations running out.
• 40:06
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: The thing is so he says, there's no supply crisis.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: The ships are coming in. But if you go to
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: a service station and there isn't the petrol that you're after,
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: there is a supply crisis because you are not seeing
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: the petrol that you want. And for Bowen to say,
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: don't believe you're lying eyes about whether or not there's
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: a crisis or night, I mean, he says, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: he's clearly not wanting to spread panic, which is nob
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: we don't want people panic buying, but to deny what
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: people are seeing as reality, you were going to lose
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: people's ability to have any trust in you. Yeah, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: then that's when things get really bad. If they've got
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: the energy minister that no one listens to.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's it. People are going to panic if
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: they think he's just spinning.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Oh well, of course, and he is spinning, let's be honest.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, a couple of weeks ago he was saying, no,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: don't worry. Everything's all okay. There's absolutely no need to panic.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: We're not going to run out of fuel. I can
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: assure you. I mean, he repeated it that he put
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: out these stupid social media video saying nobody panic, everybody,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: it's okay. Then two weeks later, Labor admitted that they
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: may have to consider fuel rationing, and surprise, surprise, Chris
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Bowen's at a complete three sixty spinning on himself and
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: now suddenly he admits that there is some sort of
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: a crisis and there is some sort of a problem.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Stop gas lighting us. Stop gas lighting us on gas
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: because you know you go to the petrol station right now,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I'm sure the two of you are same. The cues
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: are at the cues are so long, you've got you
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: go up to the bowser and it's out of order,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: don't have enough fuel.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're all we can see it. We're not MUDs. Chris, No,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: I don't see it because I'm walking to work for
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the nation.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen said that if I was patriotic, I was patriotic,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I'd take one for the team. So I'm going to
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: walk to working back just to help Chris go and
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: proud Chris, But last time I.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Bought diesel was only two sixty seven.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: But it's the three dollars now, So look out, we
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: run a couple of diesel cars in our household.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Look at you go. You won't get the gold stuff out.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: Ye had all that good will from Chris Bowen coming
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: towards at Well.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: We're planning to go away for Easter with a family
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: who've got a tesla, so we might have to all
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: cram into that.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: If will you run out of field?
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Hey, well, you get your destination on time when you
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: get there from A to B.
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: We don't know how to tasteless.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: It could be a little experiment. I'll let them take
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that one it now. Tell me.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I've just noticed that one of the solutions from the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: union movement to the fuel crisis is that workers should
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: just all work from home.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: That's their answer to everything. Everyone should work from home.
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, never let a good crisis go to waste. You know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: this is like, you know, COVID works so well for everyone.
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: Everyone loved work from home in COVID, so I want
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: to bring it back. It's this classic work.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: At some states, the unions are going to wake up
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: that if everyone's just working from home. How's the shops too,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: going to sign up new members and make sure the members.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Of the union.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, you'd be tearing your hair out right now,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: wouldn't you. If you're a business side are you'd be thinking,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: here we go again with the unions. I mean, another
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: finger in every pie. But by the unions, it goes
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: on and on. We're not in COVID anymore. COVID is
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: a thing of the past. Remember how many businesses shut
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: during COVID, and remember how many business are still out
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: of business, especially in the CBDs because nobody has gone
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: back to the CBDs. We cannot possibly let businesses run
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: down again. This is another union derelict policy.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It's just given me a brilliant idea though it will
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: make me very rich and give me control of the
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: labor party. I'm going to establish the working from Home Union.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Sign up to Chris Kinney's Working from Home.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Union, loving you tonight, worry to carry. It will be
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: bigger than the CFM MEU. Now we speaking of unions,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: we've got to talk about the ABC.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: And okay, here's the ABC finance reporter that you pay
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: for speaking on a billion dollar, multi billion dollar national
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: broadcasting baym off that you pay for.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Is doing this on your dime.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: It is worth noting Gemmo that our coverage of inflation
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: and finance for the rest of the day will be
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: different from usual because my colleagues and I will be
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: on strike like many of our viewers. A lot of
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: ABC staff as struggling to keep up with the rising
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: cost of living, and we're asking for a pay rise
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: that will help keep our heads above water.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: That's not objective, that's not fair, that doesn't meet the
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: editorial guidelines. That is using a public facility for personal gain.
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: I couldn't believe how often he had to check his
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: notes for something that allegedly is spoken from the heart.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: You would have thought, well, as the national secretary of
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the working from home, I can guarantee you that he
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: would have been given a script by the union to
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: read out.
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: But to the point, like he gave away the whole
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: game in that first sentence where he said, our coverage
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: of the inflation crisis is going to be a little
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: different tonight. Now. Look, sure, you know have an issue
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: with you pay, have an issue with that, but we
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: are in an inflation problem. We're in a fuel crisis.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: Australians need to be informed about what's going on in
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: the world, like at anytime, but especially this week, and
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: for you to go you know what, sure, but I
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: come first. It just shows a disrespect to people who
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: consume your products and that would be bad in any
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: situation with media. But when it's the same can assume
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: that has to pay for you because it's the ABC
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: and we will pay for it. It is just a
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: double slap in the face.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, spot on.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: These are the two key points I think that Sarah
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Henderson made. One one, it's a rotten time to pull
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the service from Australians. But secondly that it's just wrong
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: to use the ABC to push your case. Call a
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: press conference, get some media coverage, don't hijack the ABC.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: No, one by one, they fell over themselves.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I know you played the clip earlier of them all
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: on their social media pushing that exact line that they
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: needed to read the news. You know, just speaking of
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: the unions, did you see that the Media, Entertainment and
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Arts Alliance actually put out a crowd strike fund, So
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: we're paying their wages. They're protesting because they want more money,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: but then they want more money in donations for us
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: to give them while they're protesting, and the all believe
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the nerve of these people, and.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The ABC managing director goes on the ABC and says, well,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I'll give you all more money if only the government
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: gave me more money.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So if we will just give them more money, will
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: be okay. She just does.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Henderson held herself in such good stead today by that
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: journalist who was peppering her with the most ridiculous of questions.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Journalist, that journalist Jason Katsukus, who I called a well
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: known lefty, long time lefty.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: He texted me and he said lefty question mark exclamation mark. Anyway,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: he's offered to buy me a bit next time on
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the camera.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: But he's mate, you work for the for the Albanisi
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: labor government and he now work for the Saturday Paper.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: And then it was the age of the Sydney Morning Hero.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Before that, boy, it's been nothing wrong with being the left.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: He just owned it. I'm probably right of center, although
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: everyone says I was a lefty on the voice. Before
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: we'll move on from that. We'll move on for that
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: talking about governments and money.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Let's have a quick look at what's happening in Queensland
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: with big announcements about the stadiums and the like there
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: in the lead up for the Olympics.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: So this stuff looks like it's going to rejuvenate the
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: city of Brisbane. James, Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: I mean you'll probably see a clip in here where
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: what seems to be about sixty seven thou some Brisbane
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: lines fans packing this stadium to watch a game. I'm
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: the pretty you know, I watch a fair bit of AFL.
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: I've never seen sixty four to seven thousand Brisbane fans,
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: so I just wonder I can't.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Get sixty seven into the gap.
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: I don't think that's the issue.
• 47:13
  Speaker 14: Thirty five and they feel it, they feel it, but
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: I don't think like this stadium is going to be
• 47:17
  Speaker 14: there forever or for a very long time. And I'm
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: just I'm sitting there as a you know, thinking as
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: a Queensland taxpayer, going that there's a lot of money
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: to be throwing at a stadium that a lot of
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: us aren't going to ever use.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get your views on this, Daneta,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: because I have to get your views on this next story.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: When running out of time.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: The King has been heckled about what he knew about
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: his little brother Andrew.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Have a look at this. How much did he know
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: about Andrew and when?
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Well, look this is going to dog him now. I
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: mean it's been dogging him for weeks everywhere the King
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: goes everywhere. Actually members of the royal family and Kate
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: and William were heckled. This is just going to continue now.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: And he's over to He's actually going over to the
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: US to meet up with Donald Trump soon. I'm sure
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: it's going to follow him over there as well, but
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: that that visit was actually gonna They're.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Doing a stopover at Epstein's Island on the say.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: Trump's already shown that he can make a Pearl Harbor
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: joke to a Japanese like, they come up, we didn't.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Do we didn't do the Pearl Harbor joke. Yeah, I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: reckon he could do this with the king. You're right,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining. Yes, Anika and James, we've got to go.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: We're almost out of time. I was going to share
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: some of your feedback about the ABC from Malatorial last night.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Guess what many of you agree with me? Classic FM
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Triple J Radio without the hosts. It's a winner. I'll
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: see you tomorrow.