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Mark Belling Podcast #107: SPECIAL PODCAST previewing Season 2 and covering sellout conservative "influencers" · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: Season two of this podcast actually begins in a few days.
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  Speaker 3: My podcast runs May to December. There's been some confusion
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  Speaker 3: about that, particularly among people who were not listeners to
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  Speaker 3: my old radio show, because I was working made a
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  Speaker 3: December for a couple of years on the radio prior
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  Speaker 3: to that. But the podcast season is made to December,
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  Speaker 3: and we released podcasts on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So
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  Speaker 3: the first Monday in May is May fourth, So our
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  Speaker 3: first full podcast is going to be Monday, May fourth,
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll be on a regular schedule all the
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  Speaker 3: way to the remainder of the year. But I'm here today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here today because I think we need to catch
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  Speaker 3: up on a couple of things I wanted to remind
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  Speaker 3: people of the start of the podcast. I'm certainly cognizant
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  Speaker 3: of the fact that people fall out of habits, and
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  Speaker 3: in this case, this was such a great habit to have.
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  Speaker 3: This is not an harmful addiction, This is a good
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  Speaker 3: thing to return to, so we're kind of plugging the return,
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  Speaker 3: which is going to come out on May fourth. For
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  Speaker 3: those of you who want to go back and listen
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  Speaker 3: to any of the old podcasts, they're all in all
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  Speaker 3: of the systems that carry my podcasts, all of the
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  Speaker 3: platforms out there, including iHeart, and they're all numbered. Number
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  Speaker 3: one was obviously the first, and I think this is
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  Speaker 3: one O seven. I'm not exactly sure, and you can
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  Speaker 3: go back and listen to some of them. I do
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  Speaker 3: want to catch up on a couple of issues that
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  Speaker 3: we need to talk about, and the first one is
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  Speaker 3: I think really appropriate. As I launched season two of
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  Speaker 3: the podcast, and after season one, which was phenomenally successful,
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  Speaker 3: we were regularly ranked in the top twenty five in
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  Speaker 3: the country on the iHeart platform. I've been ruminating a
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  Speaker 3: lot about my success, and my guess is about fifty
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  Speaker 3: five to sixty percent of the people who became listeners
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  Speaker 3: to the podcast last year where people who were longtime
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  Speaker 3: listeners to my radio show, and another forty or so
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  Speaker 3: percent were brand new. They either weren't from Wisconsin and
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  Speaker 3: weren't familiar with the radio show, or they didn't listen
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  Speaker 3: to AM radio, or they're just in podcast world, and
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  Speaker 3: they roam around all over the place word of mouth,
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  Speaker 3: and they picked up on mine. So some people have
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  Speaker 3: a great background with me and others don't. I believe
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  Speaker 3: there's obviously a lot of reasons why people are successful
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  Speaker 3: in fields like radio or now podcasting, and it's never one.
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  Speaker 3: But I think if in analyzing myself in fact, I'll
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  Speaker 3: ask Jason Gotch is our brand new producer of the
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  Speaker 3: podcast this year, but he's being trained today by Paul,
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  Speaker 3: I don't does that mean that you're going to train
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  Speaker 3: him to say stupid things when I ask questions here?
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  Speaker 3: Or is he so? In other words, you just train
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  Speaker 3: him to say, like if a common sense thing or
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  Speaker 3: a dumb thing comes to mind, say the dumb thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'll ask Jason isn't as familiar obviously with me, but
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  Speaker 3: Paul is. Paul, What do you think if you can
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  Speaker 3: come up with the one, the single biggest reason I
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  Speaker 3: had a successful radio career and now a successful podcast,
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  Speaker 3: what is it? I know, well, you say doing things
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  Speaker 3: that people want to hear, but a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: cover the same kinds of things I covered. Do you
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  Speaker 3: really want to go with that answer? After working with
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  Speaker 3: me for thirty five years. Don't pull any punches. A
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  Speaker 3: lot of people don't pull any punches. Some people, in fact,
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  Speaker 3: certainly swing harder than me. These are terrible answers. Jason,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to come up with anything? Jason is
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  Speaker 3: also a talk show host at WISN the New Producer.
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  Speaker 3: Do you have anything it's entertaining? Yeah, everybody is all
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  Speaker 3: of that. I believe it's this. I think the audience
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  Speaker 3: has come to know that if I say something, I
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  Speaker 3: believe it. If I say something really strongly and pound
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  Speaker 3: the table and am adamant and passionate about it, that's
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  Speaker 3: because I feel especially strongly about it. If I talk
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  Speaker 3: about something maybe with a little bit less passion, it's
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  Speaker 3: an opinion I have, but maybe something that I don't
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  Speaker 3: consider to be the most important issue in the world.
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  Speaker 3: I have never said something first on the radio or
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  Speaker 3: in my podcast that I didn't believe. Now that means
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  Speaker 3: there are going to be times in which listeners get
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  Speaker 3: hacked off and disagree with me because I'm saying something
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  Speaker 3: they don't agree with. But I believe that those people
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  Speaker 3: have stuck with me because they knew it was what
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  Speaker 3: I believed, right or wrong. I believed it and I
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  Speaker 3: can make a case and I defend it. I want
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  Speaker 3: to go back to a couple of conversations. They stick
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  Speaker 3: with me. They were both in the nineties. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to name one person. I will name the other.
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  Speaker 3: Early in my career in radio and Milwaukee and I
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  Speaker 3: started in nineteen eighty nine. I'm guessing this would have
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  Speaker 3: been ninety or ninety one. Another person in local radio
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  Speaker 3: was not on a talk station, asked me, I think
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  Speaker 3: the issue was why I was opposed to gun control.
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  Speaker 3: He said, do you really believe that or do you
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  Speaker 3: just say that to get good ratings. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not gonna name the person. I don't even know where
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  Speaker 3: he's been, but there's no need to name him. A
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  Speaker 3: few years later, I was in a bar I am
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  Speaker 3: gonna name this guy. There was a local TV anchor
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  Speaker 3: for a while. He I mean, I swear, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Does the Barbie do they still have the Ken dollar
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  Speaker 3: as it should just Barbie? Is Ken? Is Ken still around?
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  Speaker 3: I watched that stupid movie. I think that there was
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  Speaker 3: a Ken in there. But I mean Ken is less
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  Speaker 3: like an emasculated almost non entity of a but Ken
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  Speaker 3: was like a good looking just there was a local
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  Speaker 3: TV anchor who I always thought of as a ken
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  Speaker 3: doll named Paul Payoskowsky who worked at Channel fifty eight.
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  Speaker 3: He clearly never liked me. The only reason I dislike
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  Speaker 3: him is because he disliked me. My philosophy in life
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  Speaker 3: is that somebody likes me, I'm either going to like
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  Speaker 3: them or I'll just be fine and cordial to them.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody like me, I don't like that. My feelings aren't hurt.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody doesn't dislay they don't like me, fine, I don't. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: My retort to that is, I mean, I much care
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  Speaker 3: about you, but I don't like you either. I just
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  Speaker 3: think he never liked me, And he asked me, you
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  Speaker 3: don't really believe all that right wing crap? Do you
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  Speaker 3: just say it in order to get good ratings. Both
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  Speaker 3: of those statements stuck with me, because no, I actually
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  Speaker 3: do believe it. One of the things that comes from
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  Speaker 3: the condescending left is because lefties all think they're brilliant,
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  Speaker 3: they can't possibly imagine somebody who's smart, and even my
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  Speaker 3: critics they know I'm smart. They don't have a wealth
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  Speaker 3: of information. They can't imagine somebody who is smart and
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  Speaker 3: intelligent could actually believe in these stupid conservative things. That's
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  Speaker 3: their bias and their bigotry. I think the reason I've
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  Speaker 3: lasted as long as and again, there's lots of other reasons.
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  Speaker 3: I'm an effective communicator, I'm pretty funny, I have a
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  Speaker 3: broad knowledge. I'm not somebody who's gonna whore out for anyone.
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  Speaker 3: All of that, but the biggest, single one was I
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  Speaker 3: think my audience believed that no matter who it offended
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  Speaker 3: or who it made happy, what you got for me
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  Speaker 3: is what I actually believe. And I'm saying this because
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  Speaker 3: there's a pathetic thing going on right now in the
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  Speaker 3: conservative influencer world. There's way more conservative voices than there
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  Speaker 3: were in the past because podcasting has created an infinite
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  Speaker 3: universe of the number of people who can now speak out.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the people who moved into podcasting from
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  Speaker 3: cable TV have much larger audiences in podcasting than they
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  Speaker 3: ever did in cable because you know, on cable TV,
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  Speaker 3: the show is on at a certain time, and maybe
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  Speaker 3: I know you can you can do the on demand,
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  Speaker 3: and you could record it or recorded and so most
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  Speaker 3: people not they watched it when it was on at
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  Speaker 3: the time, whereas podcas Yes, you can. You know, Tucker
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  Speaker 3: Carlson's audience is way larger than it ever was when
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  Speaker 3: he was on Fox. I don't know everybody's numbers, but
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  Speaker 3: I suspect the same is true with Megan Kelly in
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  Speaker 3: quite a few others. There's a sad thing going on
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  Speaker 3: right now in which I believe there are conservative influencers
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  Speaker 3: who are saying things that either they don't believe, or
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  Speaker 3: they're so devoid of any actual principles and beliefs that
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  Speaker 3: they're saying this thing now when they were saying almost
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  Speaker 3: the exact opposite. Very recently, a lot of people have
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  Speaker 3: jumped off the Trump bandwagon. The war is obviously a
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  Speaker 3: big part of it, and this is where some people
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  Speaker 3: have particularly abandoned Trump, but it started before then. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the politicians who were in and then they were out,
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  Speaker 3: they're a dimer dozen. And I don't expect most politicians
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  Speaker 3: to have any particular principles at all, the Marjorie tailor
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  Speaker 3: Greens of the world. But some of the people that
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  Speaker 3: are in this business of going out there and on
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  Speaker 3: television or on a podcast, speaking out and putting their
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  Speaker 3: name behind something, you'd like to think they actually believed
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  Speaker 3: in what they were saying. If you pay attention to
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  Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson right now, what he's saying has almost nothing
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  Speaker 3: in common with what he was saying and almost anything
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  Speaker 3: three or four years ago. Megan's another one. Megan Kelly
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  Speaker 3: is incredibly talented. When Trump first ran, she disliked him,
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  Speaker 3: so did I. She kind of came aboard. I fully
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  Speaker 3: came aboard. Then when he was running again in twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty four, she was pounding the table speaking at his rallies,
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  Speaker 3: passionately supporting him. And now she didn't like him anymore.
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  Speaker 3: One year ago, when Trump hit the Iranian nuclear facilities,
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  Speaker 3: Megan went on her program and said, every other president
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  Speaker 3: said they were going to do something about this, and
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  Speaker 3: only Trump had the balls to do it. But now
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  Speaker 3: a year later, when Trump's hitting a ran again, she's
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  Speaker 3: saying he's only doing it because this is what Israel
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  Speaker 3: wants and so on. What changed in the year other
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  Speaker 3: than maybe some of the tides politically have turned. The
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  Speaker 3: war has been a hard sell. But there are a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people who were demanding for years that we
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  Speaker 3: stop Iran from attacking America, stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons,
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  Speaker 3: and so on, and then when Trump actually did something
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  Speaker 3: about it, they're saying something else altogether. Now why are
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  Speaker 3: they doing it? Another example would be Candidy. I think
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  Speaker 3: she's in a class to herself. I just think Candas
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  Speaker 3: isn't conservative anymore. There's a long history of people who
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're on the left, then they're on the right,
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  Speaker 3: then they're on the left, and they flop around all
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  Speaker 3: over the place. I noticed the Candas about a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: She was just on a lot of other issues. She
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  Speaker 3: was on the whole justin Baldoni thing, which isn't really
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  Speaker 3: a political thing. And then she got onto Is mccrone's wife,
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  Speaker 3: actually his mother, which she may have been right about,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't really a political thing. So she was
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  Speaker 3: moving away from core conservative politics. And now she just
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  Speaker 3: moved into an area in which almost anything that most
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  Speaker 3: conservatives believe in she doesn't. So she's carving out a
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  Speaker 3: niche for herself. She's particularly obsessed with Charlie Kirk and
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica, essentially implying that Erica was behind
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  Speaker 3: having Charlie murdered, which I just think is utterly preposterous.
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  Speaker 3: People can say anything, and some people are going to
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  Speaker 3: fall for it. I remember when Netflix did that stupid series.
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  Speaker 3: When did they do that making of a Murderer thing?
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  Speaker 3: The thing about Stephen Avers fifteen years ago maybe or
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  Speaker 3: is it more recent than that, but sounds a worry.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are people that watch that and they
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  Speaker 3: actually thought that these two stupid, inbred hell you Billies
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  Speaker 3: didn't do it well. Again, if you present one side
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  Speaker 3: of a story to people that aren't good at critical thinking,
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  Speaker 3: they'll fall for anything. So you have Megan Kelly, who
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  Speaker 3: is very close to Charlie Kirk and for that matter,
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  Speaker 3: close to Erica Kirk. She won't criticize Candace Owans for
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  Speaker 3: implying that Eric is a killer. Now I know where
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  Speaker 3: Candace is coming from. There's a void. Charlie Kirk was
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  Speaker 3: the king of the Hill among conservative influencers. Now he's dead,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a void as to who the new number
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  Speaker 3: one is going to be. And everybody's elbowing one another
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  Speaker 3: around and they're figuring out what message is going to resonate.
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  Speaker 3: I don't worry about whether or not my message is
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  Speaker 3: going to resonate, because in the short term you may
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  Speaker 3: get clicks or may get tune ins, but If the
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  Speaker 3: audience senses that you're full of crap and you're just
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  Speaker 3: making it up and you're pandering here, and then you
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  Speaker 3: pander over to the other side, your long term credibility
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  Speaker 3: is shot. I'm not bragging and saying that I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: do it, because the fact that I didn't the reason.
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  Speaker 3: The upshot of the of me not having done it
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  Speaker 3: is I've been incredibly successful. I've been rewarded for it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not patting myself on the back for being principled.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, in the long run, being full of
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  Speaker 3: crap and saying whatever you think people want to hear
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  Speaker 3: in the short term doesn't work. Its short term works.
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  Speaker 3: Long term, you're just another loud mouth that's full of crap.
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  Speaker 3: Couple of other issues that I want to discuss briefly.
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  Speaker 3: There's been hand ringing. I've been in Florida for most
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  Speaker 3: of the year. I'm back back to pretty good weather
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  Speaker 3: this week. Anyway, There's been a lot of hand ringing
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  Speaker 3: over the fact that the spring elections were once again
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  Speaker 3: a debacle. In Wisconsin, the conservative candidate for the state
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  Speaker 3: Supreme Court got annihilated in local elections. Liberals made gains
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  Speaker 3: in some local school boards. Walkershaw has another Democrat mayor,
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  Speaker 3: and so on. Wisconsin is a dead even swing state.
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  Speaker 3: In the fall elections, we elect United States Senators. Statewide,
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  Speaker 3: we've got a Republican and a Democrat. The governor's elections,
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  Speaker 3: whether the Republicans win Walker the Democrats win, evers go
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  Speaker 3: back to Doyle Tommy. They've always been close elections or
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  Speaker 3: in the seven swing states of the presidential election, I
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  Speaker 3: believe Wisconsin was the closest of the seven in Trump's margin.
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  Speaker 3: We're dead down the middle, but that's only in fall
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  Speaker 3: of that. In the spring elections, we have more people
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  Speaker 3: voting liberal. And the upshot of that is we have
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  Speaker 3: very liberal local governments. No matter what the community is,
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  Speaker 3: its local government is more to the left than the
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  Speaker 3: community as a whole. So when you take a city
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  Speaker 3: like Milwaukee, which is certainly leftist, the leadership of the
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  Speaker 3: city is even more leftist than the city. You take,
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  Speaker 3: say a moderate city, the leadership will be liberally. If
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  Speaker 3: you take a conservative city, you'll have moderately conservative leadership.
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  Speaker 3: The local leadership is always to the left as the
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  Speaker 3: community as a whole. And that's because the fact of
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  Speaker 3: the matter is that it is a fact lower propensity
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  Speaker 3: voters who are conservative. There are more low propensity conservative
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  Speaker 3: voters than liberals. I think this changed during COVID when
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  Speaker 3: mail in voting came in and so on. The left
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  Speaker 3: simply gets more of their people to turn out in
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  Speaker 3: the spring. No other explanation for it. It's not I
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  Speaker 3: just don't buy that you could help. You had all
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  Speaker 3: these people who, for example, would vote for say Ron
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  Speaker 3: Johnson or Donald Trump, we are they going to vote
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  Speaker 3: for a radical leftist for the state Supreme Court or
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  Speaker 3: some lefty mayor in their community. It's an existential problem,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of people are blaming the state Republican
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  Speaker 3: establishment for it, and I'm no fan of the state
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  Speaker 3: Republican establishment. But the problem is deeper than that. At most,
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  Speaker 3: we have four elections in a year, primary in the spring,
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  Speaker 3: general in a spring, primary in the fall, general in
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  Speaker 3: the fall. In the odd number of years there isn't
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  Speaker 3: even the fall elections. It's not like we have to
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  Speaker 3: vote a lot. But the reality is that in a
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  Speaker 3: state that's fifty to fifty divided, there are enough conservatives
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  Speaker 3: who don't vote in the spring that we keep getting
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  Speaker 3: shellacked in those spring elections. This issue forever and ever
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  Speaker 3: and ever. I have been hearing lefties in Wisconsin bitching
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  Speaker 3: that Wisconsin's legislative districts are jerry mannered. It's like the worst. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: they jerrymanned, They jerrymannered, they jerrymander. Look who's jerrymandering now.
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  Speaker 3: The people in Virginia voted to jerrymander their congressional districts,
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  Speaker 3: redraw the lines to create more democratic districts in the
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  Speaker 3: state than Republican So this thing that they claimed that
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  Speaker 3: they hated because it was terrible government, they now embrace.
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  Speaker 3: In the meantime, when Trump has tried to get Republican
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  Speaker 3: states to do the same thing, they get weak need.
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  Speaker 3: There was a lot of blowback when they tried to
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  Speaker 3: do it in Texas. Indiana refused to do it. So
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  Speaker 3: we once again have a situation in which California jerrymandered
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  Speaker 3: their districts to make more democratic districts in the state
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  Speaker 3: of California. Unless Republicans are willing to use the same
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  Speaker 3: tactics as the Democrats, we will perpetually lose. And that's
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  Speaker 3: for the Democrats who claim that they were so morally
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  Speaker 3: opposed to jerrymandering. I think we see that that was
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  Speaker 3: all they were against jurymandering when they weren't the ones
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  Speaker 3: who were doing the jurymandering. Now that they have the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to do the jurymandering, they're all in favor of it.
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  Speaker 3: Quick note, when we resume the podcast in its official season,
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  Speaker 3: we are going to have Returning You Line as our
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  Speaker 3: presenting sponsor. We also have Charisma Customs, which by the way,
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  Speaker 3: they're doing my car as I speak. They are back
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  Speaker 3: with the program, and so will Annex Wealth Management. This
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  Speaker 3: leaves two available sponsorships for my podcast. So if you'd
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  Speaker 3: like to have your message presented on every single podcast
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  Speaker 3: I do in the remainder of the year, that's available
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  Speaker 3: for you. Right now. I've decided to make one person
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  Speaker 3: the contact guy for all of this because I know
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  Speaker 3: everybody will remember his name even though he's not in sales.
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  Speaker 3: Rather than putting a salesperson's name, it's the contact in
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  Speaker 3: here what nobody will remember. I'm just putting Jerry Bott
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  Speaker 3: in charge of this, and Jerry Bob will forward into
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  Speaker 3: the appropriate person. So if you have an interest in
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  Speaker 3: being part of my podcast and partner with us, just
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  Speaker 3: email Jerrybott at iHeartMedia dot com jerrybott at iHeartMedia dot com.
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  Speaker 3: I also like the fact that he's now going to
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  Speaker 3: be getting all of these editions, even if it doesn't
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  Speaker 3: amount to anything, he's going to have to sort through
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  Speaker 3: all of those emails. So that's how many podcasts for
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  Speaker 3: today Again, we're back for the year Monday and May fourth,
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  Speaker 3: and then every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday holidays included. We're
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  Speaker 3: just going to stick to that schedule from May until December,
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  Speaker 3: and I hope to use that schedule essentially as long
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  Speaker 3: as I have an audience, that I have a voice,
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  Speaker 3: that I have a passion to keep doing it. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's worked out for me so far. I need the
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  Speaker 3: four months to recharge my batteries in not fall apart
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  Speaker 3: and crap out and diet. I'm ready to go for
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  Speaker 3: yet another year. Jason will take over as the producer
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  Speaker 3: full time when we get started here. Paul, how's the
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  Speaker 3: training going? Is he picking up on this or does
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  Speaker 3: he not know what he's doing Paula. Paul says he's
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  Speaker 3: doing excellent in there. Have you trained him that he
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  Speaker 3: has to be ready to make stupid retorts when I
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  Speaker 3: ask questions? Or is he going to like we're going
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  Speaker 3: to always change it up. We can have intelligent retorts
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  Speaker 3: rather than what we got from you for all of
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  Speaker 3: these years. Jason is the nine to eleven host on
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  Speaker 3: WISN Radio. For those of you who that aren't radio listeners,
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  Speaker 3: we had some realignment. Jay Weber's now doing a podcast,
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  Speaker 3: so Benell moved to the morning show. Jason's doing the
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  Speaker 3: nine to eleven show, and as part of his duties,
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  Speaker 3: he's also going to be the producer of my podcast.
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  Speaker 3: So again Monday, May fourth, will start out and be
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  Speaker 3: on a regular schedule, have longer podcast than this one
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  Speaker 3: was here, but this is just kind of my way
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  Speaker 3: of catching up and letting you know what's going on. Also,
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  Speaker 3: I'm already being overwhelmed with people demanding to know whether
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  Speaker 3: or not I'm going to do Kentucky Derby picks. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, I've done it for like thirty years, so yes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to do them. Secondly, they haven't even done
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  Speaker 3: the post physician draw yet this year. It's earlier, it's Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be up on my website Belling dot com late
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  Speaker 3: next week. The race is always the first Saturday in May,
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  Speaker 3: which is May second, so I'm thinking Wednesday Thursday of
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  Speaker 3: next week, and I guess that would be the thirtieth
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  Speaker 3: of April. Twenty ninth to thirtieth of April will be
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  Speaker 3: when the picks are up. Okay, that's it for now
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  Speaker 3: and we're going to be back in Reddit or rural
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  Speaker 3: first Monday in May.
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