Latest / The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast / Bouncing Back with NFL Week 5
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network.
- 0:12Speaker 1: I am Chad Milman. I am going to be joined
- 0:15Speaker 1: today as I am every week by Professional Better Simon Hunter. Simon, boy,
- 0:22Speaker 1: do I have a bone to pick with you? It
- 0:26Speaker 1: is gonna be contentious and very uncomfortable. So why don't
- 0:31Speaker 1: you just get the niceties out of the way, say
- 0:33Speaker 1: hello to your fans, and then get ready to defend yourself.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Hello fans. A reminder. Last year Professional Better Simon Hunter
- 0:40Speaker 1: joined the pod, he offered season long pick up contest
- 0:43Speaker 1: advice every single week. This year, we are taking it
- 0:46Speaker 1: a step further. He joined the Draft Kings Pro Football
- 0:49Speaker 1: pick Up National Championship and every single week we are
- 0:53Speaker 1: going to decide together, optimum more together what picks he
- 0:57Speaker 1: should put in. He will also offer top nutch inside
- 1:00Speaker 1: and how professional betters breakdown games and what they look for,
- 1:02Speaker 1: because we're going to talk about every single game every
- 1:04Speaker 1: single week. But you will also get lessons in game theory,
- 1:07Speaker 1: strategies to outward opponents, etcetera. Here's the recap for last week, Simon,
- 1:11Speaker 1: Are you ready? We went two and three in the
- 1:15Speaker 1: contest two and three and it was a goddamn gut punch.
- 1:22Speaker 1: You know why our listeners may recall that on this podcast,
- 1:28Speaker 1: on this very podcast, I have to look at my
- 1:30Speaker 1: notebook this very podcast. You and I both decided there
- 1:33Speaker 1: were a bunch of teams that we loved. We loved
- 1:36Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears that didn't work out. We loved the
- 1:40Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins that didn't work out. We love the Baltimore
- 1:44Speaker 1: Ravens that one worked out. But we also loved the
- 1:47Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and we loved the Cleveland Browns. And yet
- 1:52Speaker 1: yet Sunday morning, I'm getting a text, there's no Browns,
- 1:57Speaker 1: there's no Eagles. We got the freaking Jacks, and they
- 2:00Speaker 1: also got the Bills, which was nice. The Bills make
- 2:04Speaker 1: me wanna what happened. And just so people know online,
- 2:11Speaker 1: I'm just trolling people when I said that Chad made
- 2:13Speaker 1: me put the Browns, I mean the Bears and over
- 2:16Speaker 1: the Browns. Like people think that you you're picking half
- 2:20Speaker 1: the slate, and it's it's honestly, it's just a mutual thing.
- 2:22Speaker 1: If if if Chad here says he likes the Bears
- 2:25Speaker 1: last week and I like them too, we're gonna have
- 2:28Speaker 1: him in. If he comes in and says he likes
- 2:29Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I think there's good value on that. We'll
- 2:31Speaker 1: put it in. They lost, and yeah it hurt, But
- 2:35Speaker 1: like Chad didn't make me put those in, I'm with him.
- 2:37Speaker 1: I agreed. I thought they were good lines. So, like
- 2:40Speaker 1: we talked Sunday morning, we were weighing options and we
- 2:43Speaker 1: just didn't feel like dealing with the Browns are the Lions,
- 2:45Speaker 1: so we left those two out. With the Eagles, I
- 2:48Speaker 1: did believe in it. I liked the number and I
- 2:51Speaker 1: had a lot of money on that number and the money,
- 2:53Speaker 1: like I talked about on the podcast last week, I
- 2:55Speaker 1: really thought that was a good spot for the Eagles.
- 2:57Speaker 1: But I out thought it and I thought to myself,
- 2:59Speaker 1: for the Jags are coming in here on ten days
- 3:02Speaker 1: rest against the team that's been on the road and
- 3:04Speaker 1: they're all beat up in the Bengals, And that was
- 3:07Speaker 1: on me. I I kind of stopped doubting Burrow Burro,
- 3:10Speaker 1: He's just a covering machine. He's four and own now covering,
- 3:12Speaker 1: which we talked last week. There's regression coming for a
- 3:15Speaker 1: lot of these teams, but it's not happening yet. So
- 3:18Speaker 1: it hurt last week. But like I said, if our
- 3:20Speaker 1: bad weeks are two and three. We'll be all right
- 3:23Speaker 1: as long as we have these winning weeks. And the
- 3:26Speaker 1: guy that's leading the competition right now, he's sixteen and four,
- 3:29Speaker 1: so we're literally four back of him, so I'm not
- 3:32Speaker 1: getting too right yet. If we were below five IB,
- 3:35Speaker 1: I'd probably be paniced a little bit right now. But
- 3:37Speaker 1: we got some cushion. We were consistent. We don't have
- 3:40Speaker 1: we have a bad week, it's not a terrible week,
- 3:42Speaker 1: So I'm excited for these next couple of weeks. Here.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Like me and you, we both we have a bunch
- 3:46Speaker 1: of games we love, and that's the hardest part is
- 3:48Speaker 1: getting down to five and not second guests on us
- 3:50Speaker 1: on our back our good reads and are bad reads.
- 3:52Speaker 1: So we missed on some last week, but that's what
- 3:55Speaker 1: this week we'll we'll bounce back alright. As a reminder,
- 3:58Speaker 1: as we do every single weekend, we're gonna do this.
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- 4:42Speaker 1: Simon this Thursday night, as I look at the odds
- 4:47Speaker 1: at the Action Network, you can get all the data
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- 5:01Speaker 1: get all the data, all the information, all the updated lines.
- 5:04Speaker 1: All right. Thursday night football, Tom Brady and the Tampa
- 5:10Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers visiting the best three and one team in
- 5:14Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, the Chicago Bears. Bears are
- 5:19Speaker 1: three point underdogs at home. Let me remind you what
- 5:24Speaker 1: is the theory that we always go for that bad
- 5:27Speaker 1: teams at home in a short week when they're underdogs.
- 5:31Speaker 1: I'm looking at the update of line we got it
- 5:33Speaker 1: at five and a half for the Bears at home
- 5:36Speaker 1: five and a half, five and a half. Right now,
- 5:38Speaker 1: you're right at DraftKings. I apologize. So everyone is backing
- 5:43Speaker 1: the Buccaneers and Nick Foles laid a giant egg last week.
- 5:47Speaker 1: It's it's hard to defend the Bears because I watched,
- 5:49Speaker 1: like we both had that game and I was watching
- 5:51Speaker 1: a lot of it, and man, they had so many opportunities.
- 5:55Speaker 1: There's so many drop balls, There's just so many things
- 5:57Speaker 1: where they would put her out on third down. People
- 5:59Speaker 1: are gonna come in here. They're gonna be big, big
- 6:01Speaker 1: on the Buccaneers. And if you're you're telling me there's
- 6:05Speaker 1: a Thursday night team, a home dog that's got a good,
- 6:09Speaker 1: good quarterback, a good defense, and just headed down week
- 6:12Speaker 1: last week, I look a little rusty. I'm gonna take
- 6:15Speaker 1: the Bears here and I'm gonna take the five and
- 6:16Speaker 1: a half and I think by game time, this is
- 6:19Speaker 1: this number is gonna go down because I think the
- 6:20Speaker 1: sharps wren join me on that. You know what I
- 6:22Speaker 1: want to ask you about in this contest? Do we
- 6:25Speaker 1: lock in? So if you and I decide, okay, we
- 6:27Speaker 1: want to bet the Bears at five and a half.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Do we put that pick in now or do we
- 6:32Speaker 1: wait until Sunday? And like, how do we end up
- 6:35Speaker 1: getting this number? The way they've been doing is like
- 6:37Speaker 1: the old school, like the way the Super contest a
- 6:39Speaker 1: Circuit does it is it locks in. So after the
- 6:43Speaker 1: show or tomorrow morning usually they put the numbers out.
- 6:46Speaker 1: So that's why people could like complain they say, oh,
- 6:48Speaker 1: I don't get these lines. It's like, well, when we
- 6:50Speaker 1: do this show, these are the lines, and when they
- 6:52Speaker 1: put those lines out, those are the lines that are
- 6:54Speaker 1: on DraftKings, like they might get moved after they put
- 6:57Speaker 1: the lines up, but that's that's lowly. The lines we
- 6:59Speaker 1: play is the ones a hang when they put the
- 7:01Speaker 1: lines out. So I don't know how it works that
- 7:03Speaker 1: if we take the Bears. I don't think it would
- 7:05Speaker 1: lock in our whole slate. I think we'd still be
- 7:07Speaker 1: able to switch other teams in and out, but I'm
- 7:09Speaker 1: not sure because we haven't played with Thursday yet and
- 7:11Speaker 1: this is my only uh, this is my only ticket
- 7:13Speaker 1: in this competition, so it could be Riscue, but we
- 7:16Speaker 1: can put that on the side. But I do love
- 7:17Speaker 1: this Bear spot so much because in my opinion, Like
- 7:20Speaker 1: you said, the number should have been opened at three
- 7:22Speaker 1: or three and a half. That's what this game should be.
- 7:24Speaker 1: The Buccaneers are looking great. They should be favorite by
- 7:27Speaker 1: a field goal on the road here against the team
- 7:29Speaker 1: that puttered out last week. But we're getting really good
- 7:31Speaker 1: value here on the Bears. Yeah, I agree, we are
- 7:33Speaker 1: getting good value on the Bears. And the Bears defense
- 7:35Speaker 1: played pretty well. And Philip rivers here while we've been
- 7:39Speaker 1: ripping them all season long, like, he did well enough
- 7:42Speaker 1: to win that game, obviously, and played significantly better than
- 7:46Speaker 1: Nick Foles, who could not hit and out to save
- 7:48Speaker 1: his life. He was just so incredibly inaccurate. It was
- 7:52Speaker 1: just so frustrating. Wow, can we go in for a
- 7:55Speaker 1: Thursday night game? We'll consider that. Here's my other question
- 7:58Speaker 1: for you, that is a technical betting question. Right now,
- 8:01Speaker 1: do you feel like you're betting these games earlier in
- 8:04Speaker 1: the week or are you waiting longer? Our lines moving
- 8:07Speaker 1: more aggressively this season are better? Is more aggressive? Like?
- 8:11Speaker 1: Tell me about your philosophy here. So say in a
- 8:14Speaker 1: normal week, if I have a dred percent of like
- 8:16Speaker 1: what I know, I'm gonna bet that week on the
- 8:17Speaker 1: table and a normally I always take of that and
- 8:21Speaker 1: I'll bet all of that on Sunday and Monday. Those
- 8:23Speaker 1: are like the days I try to hit early lines
- 8:25Speaker 1: where I'm seeing value, I think the lines are gonna
- 8:27Speaker 1: move against it. For this season, I've switched it up
- 8:29Speaker 1: where um, I've been waiting for something to happened with
- 8:33Speaker 1: the COVID outbreak on the team, so I've been doing
- 8:36Speaker 1: a lot more teasers, a lot more to team teasers,
- 8:39Speaker 1: three team teasers. Oddly enough, on our last week, all
- 8:42Speaker 1: five of our picks hiding teasers. So like a lot
- 8:44Speaker 1: of people I talked to, I tell them the plays
- 8:46Speaker 1: they just played, two at a time, our picks together
- 8:49Speaker 1: and tease them and of course, like they've been hitting
- 8:51Speaker 1: for people, I think we only have two games out
- 8:53Speaker 1: of all of our picks that haven't hit on teasers
- 8:55Speaker 1: so far. I'll do two teamers. I'll do three teamers,
- 8:57Speaker 1: and this week depends on the books and off shore
- 9:00Speaker 1: books and legalized books. They took down the Chief's bets,
- 9:04Speaker 1: so like if I got really good value on the
- 9:06Speaker 1: Chiefs at six and a half and I got it
- 9:07Speaker 1: down to half a point, where I just took it
- 9:09Speaker 1: straight up. A lot of the books took it down
- 9:11Speaker 1: or they left the teaser up, but like gave me
- 9:13Speaker 1: worse juice. Same at with Pittsburgh I put out early
- 9:16Speaker 1: in the week. I like the Pittsburgh. It was like
- 9:18Speaker 1: eight and a half with the rams of five and
- 9:20Speaker 1: a half in the Bravens I think at five and
- 9:23Speaker 1: a half. And they took out the Pittsburgh and they
- 9:25Speaker 1: left up my bet with just those two teams in
- 9:27Speaker 1: it with the juice. So it's annoying. But they can
- 9:30Speaker 1: do that the books because it is technically a change
- 9:32Speaker 1: of date and time, and that's in the fine print.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Anything you get, it says pretty much of the change
- 9:37Speaker 1: the time, the date, the location, we can get rid
- 9:40Speaker 1: of the bet. So I'm trying to navigate it, but
- 9:43Speaker 1: I'm not putting nearly as much as I used to
- 9:45Speaker 1: early in the week. All right, let's get into the uh,
- 9:48Speaker 1: let's get into the early games. The first game on
- 9:50Speaker 1: the schedule for one o'clock the Bengals plus thirteen and
- 9:54Speaker 1: a half at Draft Kings. They are visiting the Ravens.
- 9:58Speaker 1: The Ravens who beat the Redskins by fourteen and probably
- 10:01Speaker 1: could have beat them by at least. They gave up.
- 10:07Speaker 1: They gave up ten garbage points. This is gonna be
- 10:09Speaker 1: one of those where like, this is gonna be a
- 10:11Speaker 1: public dog since he at this big of a number,
- 10:14Speaker 1: most people are at one on Joe Burrow, We're like
- 10:16Speaker 1: we talked about earlier. We liked Joe bro He's fun
- 10:18Speaker 1: to root for, He's a cool dude. When's it gonna
- 10:20Speaker 1: run out on their four and no right now against
- 10:22Speaker 1: the spread? So it's a tough spot where like me personally,
- 10:26Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet the Ravens here and try to fade
- 10:28Speaker 1: this rookie QB after winning at home and feeling good
- 10:31Speaker 1: all week where the Ravens just usually beat up on
- 10:34Speaker 1: crappy teams. It was the same logic last week where
- 10:37Speaker 1: I had no problem taking the Ravens and putting them
- 10:39Speaker 1: in a lot of parlays and bets together. So this
- 10:42Speaker 1: is another week where I'm gonna back the Ravens, and
- 10:44Speaker 1: I know we don't like taking these big, these big favorites,
- 10:46Speaker 1: so we can put them on the side by I
- 10:48Speaker 1: wouldn't hate come game time that we put them in.
- 10:50Speaker 1: So that's a tricky number, right because that game we
- 10:54Speaker 1: got it a twelve and a half, but by the
- 10:56Speaker 1: time it closed. It was at fourteen, so you pushed
- 11:00Speaker 1: if you ended up betting on the Ravens against the Redskins.
- 11:03Speaker 1: It's like that to the conversation we were just having.
- 11:06Speaker 1: You gotta be ready to bet when you see a
- 11:08Speaker 1: number that you like and you have a strong opinion.
- 11:10Speaker 1: I think I agree with you on this, and I
- 11:13Speaker 1: think I agree that I'm looking at the number right now,
- 11:15Speaker 1: like there's so much Bengals love, there's so much Joe
- 11:18Speaker 1: Burrow love. You almost have to break down who he's
- 11:21Speaker 1: done it against, right, and and the Ravens do not
- 11:27Speaker 1: play down to the level of their opponent. They play
- 11:31Speaker 1: incredibly well and then they got beat by a really
- 11:33Speaker 1: good team a couple of weeks ago. I think they
- 11:36Speaker 1: can destroy this team. I think they might actually kill
- 11:40Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. And I think it's like a another position
- 11:46Speaker 1: of the Bangs that if this number was fourteen and
- 11:49Speaker 1: a half, fourteen, I'd probably stay away, But if it
- 11:51Speaker 1: keeps coming down, people keep betting that we can get
- 11:53Speaker 1: it at thirteen twelve and a half, Like you're saying,
- 11:56Speaker 1: I don't mind taking that number because that gives us
- 11:58Speaker 1: some coverage if there is a chance of weird extra
- 12:00Speaker 1: miss like point or A lot of teams are going
- 12:03Speaker 1: for two now, so it just gives me more coverage. Yeah,
- 12:05Speaker 1: that's insane. By the way, how many teams are going
- 12:09Speaker 1: for two right now, like the Eagles opened up going
- 12:11Speaker 1: for two. By the way, of the bets so far
- 12:14Speaker 1: are on the Cincinnati Bengals, which is astonishing, which means
- 12:19Speaker 1: it honestly means, let's hope the number goes down. I'm
- 12:22Speaker 1: not gonna bet that. Yeah, I'm gonna wait for it
- 12:24Speaker 1: to go down a little right. We might get a
- 12:25Speaker 1: little lucky on that one. The Eagles going for two,
- 12:28Speaker 1: you know, right out of the gate the other night.
- 12:29Speaker 1: That just felt like Doug Peterson knows his team is
- 12:32Speaker 1: in dire straits. They got to get points on the board.
- 12:35Speaker 1: They got to get some confidence going. That's a guy
- 12:38Speaker 1: who's comfortable in his job and he's like, just screw it.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Let's let's be the best we can be right now.
- 12:43Speaker 1: But it is amazing how aggressive teams are being, how
- 12:46Speaker 1: much more often teams are going for and forth. There
- 12:49Speaker 1: is never a game that I'm I'm spewing everything that's
- 12:52Speaker 1: in my head right now. There's never a game that
- 12:55Speaker 1: it feels like your cover is safe. I've been doing
- 12:59Speaker 1: these bets for a long time. But you can bet
- 13:00Speaker 1: on a lot of sites for the first half. You
- 13:02Speaker 1: can bet if it's gonna be a tie, or you
- 13:04Speaker 1: can pick each side money line. Could you get better
- 13:06Speaker 1: odds on the money line. I've been doing that a
- 13:07Speaker 1: lot because a lot of times these teams are going
- 13:09Speaker 1: with weird numbers and missed extra points. That you can
- 13:11Speaker 1: cover these money lines by one point, like I did
- 13:14Speaker 1: with the Eagles in that game for the first half.
- 13:16Speaker 1: So that's something to be on the lookout for betting.
- 13:18Speaker 1: You can get good value on betting news. Second game
- 13:21Speaker 1: Panthers at Falcons. Falcons played last night, got beat up again.
- 13:25Speaker 1: They are it looks like three point favorites at home.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It almost feels like a trap to me.
- 13:36Speaker 1: You know, I hate betting the Falcons, and I bet him.
- 13:38Speaker 1: I bet him Tuesday afternoon, I bet him last night
- 13:40Speaker 1: against the Packers. You know, I hate betting the Falcons,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and we've loved betting the Panthers so far this year.
- 13:46Speaker 1: But this feels a little bit trappy in me. I'm
- 13:48Speaker 1: walking too a fucking hornet's nest, all right, now, be
- 13:50Speaker 1: my companion yeah, it was good. Last week we talked
- 13:54Speaker 1: to the pot we had like the Cardinals, and as
- 13:55Speaker 1: a week went on, of course, my guys from Vegas
- 13:58Speaker 1: reach out and they go, you're stepping in it. I go,
- 14:00Speaker 1: all right, let me look at it again, and and
- 14:02Speaker 1: you do. Look at the numbers and the Cardinals they're offense.
- 14:05Speaker 1: I went back and I watched a bunch of their
- 14:07Speaker 1: games from weeks thirteen to seventeen. Last week. You can
- 14:10Speaker 1: see how they're doing weird. I don't know why he's
- 14:12Speaker 1: doing it, but he's throwing everything underneath underneath. Now they're
- 14:15Speaker 1: not really pushing it downfield. The run scheme is weird
- 14:18Speaker 1: in the sentence that he's running on downs like first
- 14:20Speaker 1: down all the time, which he wasn't really doing last year.
- 14:23Speaker 1: He was taking hypercentage downfield throws on first down the
- 14:26Speaker 1: Carolina that was definitely the right side. As we saw
- 14:29Speaker 1: the number kept coming down, we got scared off of it.
- 14:31Speaker 1: We moved off Carolina the Cardinals last week. So this
- 14:35Speaker 1: week the Panthers are now two straight wins on a
- 14:39Speaker 1: team that we know their defense isn't that good. They've
- 14:42Speaker 1: they've been playing well, but they're young and Quinn still
- 14:45Speaker 1: isn't fired, and the number was weird. We're opened at
- 14:47Speaker 1: three and a half, and I knew everyone's gonna be
- 14:49Speaker 1: on that number, so I was like, I'm just gonna
- 14:51Speaker 1: wait that the Falcon, especially after last night's loss. So
- 14:54Speaker 1: I would be with you here. I would take the Falcons,
- 14:56Speaker 1: but I would have to wait and see what the
- 14:57Speaker 1: deals with Julio because he went out last night. I
- 15:00Speaker 1: think he had like ten snaps or something like that
- 15:02Speaker 1: and he was done. And I don't know Calvin Ridley.
- 15:05Speaker 1: I love the kid, but he just he was gone
- 15:08Speaker 1: last night. He didn't do anything, and it makes me
- 15:09Speaker 1: a little nervous where he could be taken away, and
- 15:11Speaker 1: then what are we left with on the Falcons and
- 15:13Speaker 1: old Todd Gurley and a third receiver and Hurst that
- 15:16Speaker 1: tight end. So we can wait on that number. But
- 15:18Speaker 1: I do like the Falcons here. Yeah. Well there's a
- 15:20Speaker 1: couple of things here right. Number one a reminder if
- 15:23Speaker 1: you ever want to have job security, just go work
- 15:26Speaker 1: at home depot, because if Arthur Blank hasn't fired Dan
- 15:30Speaker 1: Quinn at this point, like, think of what you would
- 15:32Speaker 1: have to do at home depot to get fired. I
- 15:34Speaker 1: can't even imagine. We'll continue that theme throughout the year
- 15:37Speaker 1: until dan Quinn has actually let go number one. Number two.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Julio Jones did not look good. He was limping around.
- 15:43Speaker 1: I don't even they were bringing scrubs off the street
- 15:45Speaker 1: in the middle of the game to play against Aaron
- 15:48Speaker 1: Rodgers in the defensive backfield. That was terrible. Calvin Ridley
- 15:52Speaker 1: is very much on the path to being the Matt
- 15:54Speaker 1: Ryan of wide receivers. And what I mean by that
- 15:56Speaker 1: is he is a guy who only racks up big
- 15:59Speaker 1: numbers in games that don't mean anything, in times that
- 16:02Speaker 1: don't mean anything except they look amazing at the end
- 16:05Speaker 1: of the game. He is like going to go down
- 16:07Speaker 1: as the greatest Fantasy receiver of all time. So let's
- 16:10Speaker 1: stay away from that game for now, and let's wait
- 16:12Speaker 1: even then, even when the number gets good, we don't
- 16:15Speaker 1: want any part of that game. I'm with you. Uh,
- 16:19Speaker 1: let's see, Bill's Titans is not on the board yet.
- 16:21Speaker 1: We just don't know what's going on with the Titans.
- 16:23Speaker 1: We have good signs, a lot of negative tests, but
- 16:26Speaker 1: there's no uh, there's no number. So then we get
- 16:29Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders visiting the Kansas City Chiefs one PM
- 16:34Speaker 1: in Kansas City, three games in eleven days for the
- 16:38Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs that have a horrendous rushing defense going
- 16:43Speaker 1: up against Josh Jacobs, a tremendous passing defense against Derrek Carr,
- 16:47Speaker 1: who's he's done okay this year? Yeah, and you do.
- 16:52Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of these every year. I
- 16:55Speaker 1: always take the Raiders in the spot against my homes
- 16:58Speaker 1: because it's always a big number like this, and I
- 17:00Speaker 1: never recover. I might want a blue moon, but it's
- 17:04Speaker 1: not profitable taking teams against the Chiefs. And like last night,
- 17:08Speaker 1: I stared at that minus eleven and a half for
- 17:10Speaker 1: about an hour and I just said, all right, screw it.
- 17:13Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do the adjusted line and just bring
- 17:15Speaker 1: it down to six because I was just so scared
- 17:16Speaker 1: of Bilichick and how big of a number it was.
- 17:19Speaker 1: And I can't take the Chiefs here where Derek Carr like, yeah,
- 17:23Speaker 1: I know he didn't look great last week, but when
- 17:25Speaker 1: they're when they're healthy on offense, they're good and he's
- 17:28Speaker 1: not turning the ball over. The public is all gonna
- 17:31Speaker 1: probably end up on this Vegas number because it is
- 17:34Speaker 1: so big, and the Raiders hadn't looked terrible like last week.
- 17:38Speaker 1: I know you can think they looked terrible. They just
- 17:40Speaker 1: had injuries and it was just one of those where
- 17:41Speaker 1: snowball and like they went three and now Josh Allen
- 17:44Speaker 1: just taking down the field and score. So the Bills
- 17:46Speaker 1: are just humming. So we're gonna stay away from this one.
- 17:49Speaker 1: But I'll probably end up on the Raiders and hate myself.
- 17:53Speaker 1: What would it take you to bet the Chiefs here?
- 17:55Speaker 1: So like I had this in minus ten, so like
- 17:57Speaker 1: I would have taken the Chiefs if it was anything
- 17:59Speaker 1: around there this number, like, I don't mind taking the
- 18:01Speaker 1: Chiefs here. It's under two touchdowns and we've seen how
- 18:04Speaker 1: for these good teams, as long as you're under fourteen,
- 18:06Speaker 1: it's been all and true, and a lot of these
- 18:08Speaker 1: teams don't have them beginning back door. That's at that
- 18:10Speaker 1: big of a number. But just like with the Rams
- 18:13Speaker 1: last week, it makes me a little nervous taking these
- 18:16Speaker 1: big numbers against teams where they have a competable offense,
- 18:20Speaker 1: like the Raiders. They can score, So it just makes
- 18:22Speaker 1: me a little nervous on that number, that big. Yeah,
- 18:25Speaker 1: what is your number on the Bengals Ravens And what
- 18:28Speaker 1: is your number on the Bears box. So the Bears Bucks,
- 18:31Speaker 1: I had it at three, I had Tampa minus three,
- 18:33Speaker 1: and with the Ravens, I got it again at minus fourteen.
- 18:37Speaker 1: That's the only thing that makes nurse with the Ravens,
- 18:38Speaker 1: They're they're kind of getting me. They're trapping me in
- 18:40Speaker 1: there with that thirteen and a half. It's like, oh,
- 18:42Speaker 1: that's really nice to them give me that. So it
- 18:44Speaker 1: makes me a little nervous with that one. All right,
- 18:46Speaker 1: Eagles visiting the Steelers, stealers getting back on the field.
- 18:51Speaker 1: They are getting a lot of the bets. They're more
- 18:54Speaker 1: than touchdown favorite seven seven and a half getting a
- 18:56Speaker 1: lot of the bets right now, which makes sense like
- 19:00Speaker 1: people not yet buying into the Eagles, which which I
- 19:03Speaker 1: can believe. Let me see if I have an opinion
- 19:05Speaker 1: on this. Do I have a snap opinion on this game? Yes,
- 19:09Speaker 1: give me the Steelers and this is given me a
- 19:11Speaker 1: Joe's versus pros. This is like classic where the Steelers
- 19:14Speaker 1: are healthy, they just had a bye week. Eagles whole
- 19:17Speaker 1: offensive line has pretty much been replaced there at one point,
- 19:20Speaker 1: they're the only start they had left was the center.
- 19:23Speaker 1: So I can't not take the Eagles here at seven
- 19:26Speaker 1: and a half, and it's just such a letdown game
- 19:28Speaker 1: for the Steelers where they've had a week off. They're
- 19:31Speaker 1: gonna come out slow and and it's gonna come down
- 19:34Speaker 1: to the very end. And I could see the Steelers
- 19:36Speaker 1: covering seven. But I love the I love the extra
- 19:39Speaker 1: hook with the seven a half with the Eagles. No, no, no,
- 19:43Speaker 1: here's why this game probably should have been. If the
- 19:46Speaker 1: Steelers had played this past week, they're beating the Titans,
- 19:50Speaker 1: that's just me saying it. They'd be a much bigger
- 19:53Speaker 1: favorite over the Eagles at this point. And I feel
- 19:56Speaker 1: like you're you're getting a little bit of value, like
- 19:59Speaker 1: on the Steelers because the Eagles finally won a game
- 20:02Speaker 1: and it was in prime time and they beat up
- 20:04Speaker 1: on the Niners. You should what's your number here? You
- 20:06Speaker 1: should make this number nine. That's what it should be. No, honestly,
- 20:10Speaker 1: I had it at four and a half, and then
- 20:11Speaker 1: after the injuries to the Eagles on the Sunday night game,
- 20:14Speaker 1: I moved into six. I'm with you, like, this doesn't
- 20:18Speaker 1: easy to play. The Steelers should kill these guys, But
- 20:21Speaker 1: are like, are we still? Are we sure the Steelers
- 20:23Speaker 1: are good? Like? Who have they played, go through who
- 20:25Speaker 1: have they played. So that's one of those where I'm
- 20:28Speaker 1: gonna back to Eagles here and think I need to
- 20:30Speaker 1: see the Steelers prove it to me. They're not playing
- 20:32Speaker 1: the Giants, they're not playing Houston, they're not playing these
- 20:35Speaker 1: teams that we have already seen. They're not that good.
- 20:37Speaker 1: So I'm gonna back to the Eagles here, and I'm
- 20:39Speaker 1: gonna let the public come in on the Steelers. All right, fin,
- 20:41Speaker 1: We'll take the Eagles. I just want to make the money.
- 20:45Speaker 1: I want to make the money. I don't have pride
- 20:48Speaker 1: of authorship here. I got opinions. If you tell me
- 20:51Speaker 1: I'm wrong, we're gonna go in the other direction. That's
- 20:54Speaker 1: all there is to it. Boy. The Rams, man, I
- 20:58Speaker 1: knew the Giants were the right side of that game
- 21:00Speaker 1: the other day, and I let somebody else talk me
- 21:02Speaker 1: into taking the Rams, and I'm like, well, this is
- 21:05Speaker 1: just dumb. Like the Rams are not the Chiefs, they're
- 21:08Speaker 1: not the Ravens, they're not the team that you can
- 21:10Speaker 1: bet a big number against. And sure enough, it's exactly
- 21:12Speaker 1: what happened. And now they're visiting Washington. The Washington football
- 21:17Speaker 1: team looks like they are at draft Kings eight and
- 21:21Speaker 1: a half point favorites. What's your number here, Yeah, it
- 21:25Speaker 1: seems like the publics with you. I had this game
- 21:28Speaker 1: at seven for the Rams. It opened at nine and
- 21:30Speaker 1: a half with the football team, and basically people back
- 21:34Speaker 1: in Washington or I think they're still believing in Haskins
- 21:38Speaker 1: and that they could keep this close. That the Rams
- 21:41Speaker 1: aren't as good as people think they are, and that
- 21:42Speaker 1: like that Giants game was just funky, Like it was
- 21:45Speaker 1: the same thing with Nick Foles. Nick Foles and missed
- 21:47Speaker 1: some wide open guys, so is golf. Golf was just
- 21:49Speaker 1: off in that game. So I'm gonna bet on a
- 21:51Speaker 1: bounce back spot here and keep fading the football team.
- 21:54Speaker 1: I'll take the Rams hopefully gets the seven. So like
- 21:56Speaker 1: a good value, but it's at seven and a half
- 21:57Speaker 1: right now, so we might want to put the Rams
- 21:59Speaker 1: in our list. Yeah, especially if the line keeps coming down.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Just for everything I've seen from Washington, they're they're banged
- 22:06Speaker 1: up on their interier and you can run on them.
- 22:07Speaker 1: And that's like the same reason I like the Rams
- 22:09Speaker 1: last week. They are running teams, so if you can
- 22:11Speaker 1: get if they get a turner on the ground, that's
- 22:13Speaker 1: when golf really takes off. So I'm gonna back them
- 22:16Speaker 1: here in this take this number, even though it's it's high.
- 22:19Speaker 1: It's a high number to be back in the Rams
- 22:20Speaker 1: on the road with especially coming across country. Let's wait
- 22:24Speaker 1: and see if it comes down a little bit. Yeah,
- 22:26Speaker 1: let's do that on Sunday morning. You and me, two
- 22:29Speaker 1: adults in partnership. Together, we're gonna make a collective decision
- 22:33Speaker 1: about whether or not the Rams or the Eagles end
- 22:36Speaker 1: up making our top five. I need another opinion. What
- 22:39Speaker 1: is your take on the rams new uniforms. I like them,
- 22:42Speaker 1: buying said, I've liked the Chargers uniforms better. Uh like
- 22:46Speaker 1: gone back to the classic the powder blues. So it's
- 22:49Speaker 1: it's tough competition with them there. But I don't hate
- 22:52Speaker 1: I know people hate on the logo. I don't mind it.
- 22:54Speaker 1: I like it all. I think their uniforms look great.
- 22:56Speaker 1: I think the new color blue in the helmet looks great.
- 22:58Speaker 1: I actually think the logo is fine. I'm a fan,
- 23:00Speaker 1: but it's becoming a contentious conversation in my house with
- 23:03Speaker 1: my fifteen year old son on who's you know running
- 23:07Speaker 1: the uniform code? Here? Cardinals visiting the New York Jets
- 23:13Speaker 1: six and a half point favorites. I mean, this is
- 23:16Speaker 1: a stay away from me. It's it's Kyler Murray. You
- 23:19Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. He's kind of running around a lot
- 23:22Speaker 1: and seems to have lost some of the mojo that
- 23:24Speaker 1: made us so excited when he was a fourteen to one,
- 23:27Speaker 1: you know, when the odds were fourteen to one for
- 23:29Speaker 1: him to win the m v P. He did not
- 23:31Speaker 1: look good this past week against a very bad Lions team. Yeah,
- 23:35Speaker 1: and I know Vegas, they're trying to scare me off again.
- 23:37Speaker 1: I'm done being scared by them versus Jets team. I'm done.
- 23:41Speaker 1: I will take for the rest of the year. I
- 23:42Speaker 1: will take whatever team they're going against. I don't care
- 23:45Speaker 1: if it's the most public player of the week. I'm
- 23:47Speaker 1: done with the Jets everything I've seen. They're poorly coached.
- 23:51Speaker 1: Even when they're not giving up first downs on defense,
- 23:54Speaker 1: they're giving it up because they do stupid penalties. I
- 23:56Speaker 1: can't take the Jets anymore, so I don't care if
- 23:59Speaker 1: it's a trap. I'm gonna the Cardinals give it to
- 24:01Speaker 1: me six and a half. I'm happy with it. Yeah,
- 24:05Speaker 1: we keep out of competition because it's such a trap,
- 24:07Speaker 1: but I'm betting it. Well, here's a question for you.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Do you feel like you bet every game? It's like
- 24:13Speaker 1: it depends on the games, like like I talked about earlier,
- 24:15Speaker 1: like in Jersey. Now, that's why I think it's the
- 24:17Speaker 1: mecca of gambling. We have like twenty one or twenty
- 24:20Speaker 1: two apps on your phone you can do now, and
- 24:22Speaker 1: I can drive across the bridge and use another twelve
- 24:24Speaker 1: or thirteen apps and p a. So like I gave
- 24:27Speaker 1: about a bet last night on Twitter that I thought
- 24:29Speaker 1: was really safe. I probably did that on the bet
- 24:32Speaker 1: I gave out. Probably did on fifteen sites, and then
- 24:34Speaker 1: I went across the bridge. I did on tent sites.
- 24:36Speaker 1: So I'll just put a thousand on each one and
- 24:38Speaker 1: spread it around instead of just going on one setting
- 24:40Speaker 1: loading up and pop it up on their radar. Because
- 24:43Speaker 1: the more you win the books, they're gonna beat you off.
- 24:45Speaker 1: They're they're here to win. So that's what I do.
- 24:47Speaker 1: I just really spread it around. But when it comes
- 24:49Speaker 1: to every game and betting, it's like it's small. Certain
- 24:52Speaker 1: games like I barely even touch and I could be
- 24:55Speaker 1: dead wrong and be like mad at myself that I
- 24:57Speaker 1: had a perfect read in the game, but I'll just
- 24:58Speaker 1: stay away because it's things don't trust, Like that Houston
- 25:01Speaker 1: and uh Vikings game last week. I might have had
- 25:04Speaker 1: like total in that game because I didn't want to
- 25:07Speaker 1: even touch it. So there's certain games we're all I'll
- 25:09Speaker 1: bet on it just because then my system says there's
- 25:11Speaker 1: value there, and I just always want to make a
- 25:12Speaker 1: little profit here in there. But yeah, it's it's very
- 25:15Speaker 1: different where one game might be one percent and over
- 25:17Speaker 1: the game might be of my bank roll. So it fluctuates,
- 25:21Speaker 1: all right. So last night you just said that you
- 25:23Speaker 1: went around and out about fifteen or apps got a
- 25:27Speaker 1: thousand dollars each on the same game. It was a parlay,
- 25:30Speaker 1: so I didn't uh, I took the Chiefs down to
- 25:32Speaker 1: five and a half and I took Green Bay up
- 25:35Speaker 1: to four and a half. So I paid anywhere from
- 25:38Speaker 1: minus like the minus one fifty depending on the site.
- 25:41Speaker 1: So like what time I got the line at, Like, yeah,
- 25:44Speaker 1: I'm cool with putting a lot on that because in
- 25:46Speaker 1: my system, like when I put the numbers in, the
- 25:49Speaker 1: Chiefs not covering that by six points only had a
- 25:51Speaker 1: five percent chance of happening. The Green Bay losing by
- 25:55Speaker 1: more than four and a half points last night had
- 25:57Speaker 1: less than a three percent chance of happening. So like,
- 25:59Speaker 1: when I do those big bets, it's because I'm just
- 26:00Speaker 1: playing percentage that we're saying, you're getting crazy good value
- 26:03Speaker 1: here alternating these lines. That's why I'll take that value.
- 26:06Speaker 1: But like every week, I don't really load up on
- 26:08Speaker 1: bets like that, Like I like to spread it around
- 26:09Speaker 1: just in case I am reading it room. But then
- 26:11Speaker 1: you ended up having like a huge chunk of change
- 26:15Speaker 1: on those games last night, even if the odds weren't
- 26:18Speaker 1: that great mine fifty, but then you made a freak
- 26:21Speaker 1: load of money last night. Yeah, I try to. Like
- 26:23Speaker 1: people were saying that, they're like, oh, they're like, I'm strucked.
- 26:26Speaker 1: You do like the juice I hire the big dig
- 26:27Speaker 1: and it's like if I think I'm gonna win and
- 26:30Speaker 1: it's like crazy good value. Like if you come to
- 26:32Speaker 1: me and you said, hey, this team's money lines minus
- 26:34Speaker 1: two hundred zero chance they lose, I'll ride with you.
- 26:37Speaker 1: If it's like a great read and I agree with it,
- 26:39Speaker 1: Like I don't mind putting I don't know two thousand
- 26:41Speaker 1: out and one a thousand, that's no problem with me
- 26:43Speaker 1: as long as the winner, because I bet so many
- 26:46Speaker 1: dogs and money lines that it just eats away at
- 26:49Speaker 1: the juice of these numbers, especially long term. It's it's
- 26:52Speaker 1: one of those things I don't like mine because people
- 26:54Speaker 1: always ask me why I don't buy points. I don't
- 26:56Speaker 1: buy points because that's stupid way to lose money on
- 26:58Speaker 1: a big like instead of me, loo isn't a bed
- 27:00Speaker 1: where I took whoever plus three and a half or
- 27:02Speaker 1: minus three and a half and buying it down to three,
- 27:05Speaker 1: I just lose that one tent or one fifteen like
- 27:07Speaker 1: those do add up. That's why you should never buy numbers.
- 27:09Speaker 1: You should just play the number as is. Yeah. Look,
- 27:12Speaker 1: money management and sort of how to shop is one
- 27:14Speaker 1: of the most important things you can think about. Is better. Uh,
- 27:17Speaker 1: It's something that we talk about constantly at Action Network.
- 27:21Speaker 1: We have so many tools that make you think about that.
- 27:25Speaker 1: Our our entire site, our entire app is set up
- 27:28Speaker 1: to give betters in legal states the best opportunity to
- 27:31Speaker 1: shop for the best lines that are available everywhere. Right,
- 27:34Speaker 1: And like we talk all the time, you have the power,
- 27:37Speaker 1: you have the control. So when I'm on here saying
- 27:39Speaker 1: I'm been every game don't get it wrong. And there's
- 27:41Speaker 1: games I load up on. That's what makes me money,
- 27:44Speaker 1: is like I don't have the bed. The five games
- 27:46Speaker 1: were picked in this contest. I could just load it
- 27:48Speaker 1: up on the Bills and the Ravens. I had a
- 27:50Speaker 1: great weekend. So it's one of those where you pick
- 27:53Speaker 1: and choose your spots and you that's why it's so
- 27:56Speaker 1: important to have a system or something, because when you
- 27:58Speaker 1: see these big number discrepancies, gives you so much confidence
- 28:01Speaker 1: in making those bets, where if you don't, you've just
- 28:03Speaker 1: been the same unit every week. It's really hard to
- 28:06Speaker 1: grind out those wins because every week you're gonna have
- 28:08Speaker 1: bad weeks and you're not gonna have that many good ones.
- 28:10Speaker 1: So you really have to pick and choose people, all right.
- 28:12Speaker 1: So we're passing on the Jets in the Cardinals. I'm
- 28:14Speaker 1: looking at the next game here it's the Jags visiting
- 28:18Speaker 1: the Bill O'Brien less Texas. Last night last night, my uh,
- 28:23Speaker 1: my thirteen year old, we were watching the games and
- 28:25Speaker 1: he went to, uh the NFL memes handle on Instagram
- 28:30Speaker 1: and it was one of those four boxes. Yeah, it's
- 28:34Speaker 1: so cool when dudes stand in front of the stuff
- 28:38Speaker 1: they've destroyed, and it's got like, you know, Will Smith
- 28:42Speaker 1: in front of something he's destroyed, and then it's got
- 28:45Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien standing in front of the Texans a level.
- 28:48Speaker 1: I don't even want to tell you how much money
- 28:49Speaker 1: I lost, But I had three head coaches I bet
- 28:51Speaker 1: big on to be fired and it worked out where
- 28:54Speaker 1: I just needed one of them to hit and I
- 28:55Speaker 1: was gonna make a nice little profit. And it was
- 28:57Speaker 1: so stupid. I mean not to look at the schedule
- 28:59Speaker 1: and say, this guy, I'd start owing three on four
- 29:01Speaker 1: and he'll get fired. But I just didn't think like
- 29:03Speaker 1: the guy who's been letting the owner has been letting him,
- 29:05Speaker 1: like burn his team down, creating all their draft picks
- 29:08Speaker 1: and their best players away, and he never stepped in.
- 29:10Speaker 1: So I was like, no, there's no way Bill O'Brien
- 29:12Speaker 1: gets fired. And man, was I wrong, But you put
- 29:15Speaker 1: the money. I have a ton on Gaze, I have
- 29:18Speaker 1: a ton on Quinn. Last of all, I had a
- 29:21Speaker 1: bunch of McCarthy for the Cowboys. Yeah, because I really
- 29:24Speaker 1: thought earlier in the year, I was like, man if
- 29:26Speaker 1: if Jerry, if they started bad, Jerry is gonna get
- 29:29Speaker 1: rid of him. Quick and just give the keys to
- 29:31Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. And it's been going as playing. The offenses
- 29:33Speaker 1: look great and the rest of the team's from crap.
- 29:35Speaker 1: But I don't think I don't think it matters now
- 29:37Speaker 1: because I already lost that. But but yeah, for this game.
- 29:40Speaker 1: I like back in teams I just fired their head coaches.
- 29:43Speaker 1: It's usually one of those where the team bounced back
- 29:45Speaker 1: like they hated the coach. They feel more freedom, they
- 29:48Speaker 1: feel more loose. The coordinators taken over, and from what
- 29:52Speaker 1: we've seen from the Jags, they've been letting us down
- 29:54Speaker 1: that last week, that was a prime game that at
- 29:57Speaker 1: worst we should have covered that plus three and a half.
- 30:00Speaker 1: It came on the second half just flat and they
- 30:02Speaker 1: got bullied. And I'm looking at it here where it's
- 30:05Speaker 1: down to six and a half now for Houston and
- 30:07Speaker 1: the majority of the public bets are coming in on
- 30:10Speaker 1: the Jags, So that gives you even more confidence that
- 30:13Speaker 1: Houston is probably going to be the right side this week.
- 30:15Speaker 1: And that's a really good number to take with them
- 30:16Speaker 1: six and a half. Why do we like teams after
- 30:20Speaker 1: they fired their coaches? I agree with you. I always
- 30:24Speaker 1: love teams after they fire their coaches. I should go
- 30:27Speaker 1: into our bet labs and figure out, like what the
- 30:30Speaker 1: the precedent, historical precedent is on how teams do against
- 30:34Speaker 1: the spread the week that they fired their coaches. But like,
- 30:36Speaker 1: new quarterbacks and new coaches always give me a little
- 30:39Speaker 1: bit of a pause betting against I'm with you on that.
- 30:42Speaker 1: I don't know the exact numbers, but I feel like
- 30:43Speaker 1: that's just something embedded in the gamblers. It's like, oh,
- 30:45Speaker 1: a new head coach, take it. So I'm with you,
- 30:49Speaker 1: all right. Dolphins visiting the Niners. Dolphins look like eight
- 30:53Speaker 1: point underdogs. Boy boy boy, oh boy man, Like we've
- 30:59Speaker 1: put a lot behind Ryan Fitzpatrick's by this year. Real fits, magic, magic, matchic.
- 31:09Speaker 1: We have invested emotionally, we have invested spiritually, and we
- 31:13Speaker 1: have invested financially. And they don't have the same sort
- 31:17Speaker 1: of edge that they had last year. Like the value
- 31:20Speaker 1: is certainly not there that it was that was their
- 31:22Speaker 1: last year. But eight points against this forty Niners team,
- 31:27Speaker 1: there we go say that's value. It is. I hate
- 31:31Speaker 1: being the guy that's like, oh, we got unlucky on
- 31:33Speaker 1: our beds last week, but it's like, how are you
- 31:36Speaker 1: going to kick four field goals against Russell Wilson. What
- 31:40Speaker 1: are we doing here? If if my team is in
- 31:42Speaker 1: the red zone, I'm playing Russell Wilson. I'm either going
- 31:45Speaker 1: for it on fourth down to keep trying to get
- 31:47Speaker 1: touchdowns or I'm gonna just give it back to him
- 31:49Speaker 1: because three points does nothing against this guy. It was brutal.
- 31:53Speaker 1: He's he ripped our soul last week, Russell Wilson, because
- 31:55Speaker 1: the they had that, they had that back door all
- 31:58Speaker 1: lined up Miami and he just put a bomb down
- 32:01Speaker 1: the field and went down the field and scored and
- 32:03Speaker 1: our touchow. I'll go no, I'm Russell Wilson. I'm going
- 32:06Speaker 1: for m VP this year. You're not getting no backdoor
- 32:08Speaker 1: on me. So I would back Miami. I like that number.
- 32:11Speaker 1: That's a big number. I know that they could be
- 32:13Speaker 1: run on and that's what the four nineers do really good.
- 32:15Speaker 1: But just like what we saw with the Eagles, there's
- 32:17Speaker 1: just too many replacements, like yeah, kidlet Mike kill us,
- 32:20Speaker 1: and that's gonna hurt. We know what it is with
- 32:24Speaker 1: fits Magic, he's gonna have down weeks, he's up up weeks.
- 32:26Speaker 1: So I'll take this big number and I'll back the Dolphins.
- 32:29Speaker 1: But we can put them aside and don't have to
- 32:31Speaker 1: put them in right now for a competition. We'll make
- 32:33Speaker 1: a question about that. Do you feel like watching some
- 32:36Speaker 1: of these games and this This was definitely true on
- 32:38Speaker 1: Sunday in the last two minutes of the first half.
- 32:41Speaker 1: I felt like maybe four games had garbage points in
- 32:47Speaker 1: the final two minutes that ultimately had an impact on
- 32:51Speaker 1: the spread in the in a bad way for me. Yeah,
- 32:54Speaker 1: honestly though, that's normal, Like, especially the more you do this,
- 32:58Speaker 1: it's just it's just mathematical that the two minute drill
- 33:02Speaker 1: teams are tired at the end of the first half,
- 33:04Speaker 1: especially these teams with the no real preseason um I
- 33:09Speaker 1: saw some crazy stad Their car is like money and
- 33:13Speaker 1: the two minute drills. He scored on every two minute
- 33:15Speaker 1: drill possession he's had this year. So, like we said,
- 33:19Speaker 1: with the no fans and no crowd noise with these teams,
- 33:21Speaker 1: it's really been benefiting these offenses, like everyone's seen with
- 33:25Speaker 1: all these overs, and it's just another one of those
- 33:27Speaker 1: where these road teams, they're I'm starting to favor them
- 33:31Speaker 1: more because it really doesn't matter with no fans, these
- 33:34Speaker 1: silent counts, you can do whatever you want as an
- 33:36Speaker 1: offense on the road. It's it's really starting to factor
- 33:38Speaker 1: into a lot of these games. Uh, Cowboys Giants, Cowboys
- 33:43Speaker 1: favored by nine and a half. Dude, you have to
- 33:49Speaker 1: do it. Come on. That's a terrible idea. It is
- 33:55Speaker 1: a terrible idea that we need a new rule. We
- 33:59Speaker 1: need a new rule. Well that you can't bet. I'm
- 34:01Speaker 1: Danny Dimes. Let's hear it for Danny Dimes or because
- 34:12Speaker 1: he's just Danny Fumbles. How many times did he fumble
- 34:16Speaker 1: in this game? Even though he didn't lose the fumbles
- 34:18Speaker 1: Like every time red zone switched to Danny Jones, he
- 34:23Speaker 1: was getting sacked and the ball was falling out of
- 34:26Speaker 1: his hand and he happened to fall on top of it.
- 34:28Speaker 1: The problem with betting on these bad teams is we
- 34:30Speaker 1: are betting on such bad quarterbacks. It is like you
- 34:32Speaker 1: need to be perfect to win these games. I hate
- 34:36Speaker 1: doing it and I hate backing them here, but like
- 34:39Speaker 1: we talked last week, and the Cowboys they're losers, and
- 34:42Speaker 1: I know they played good teams here, and like maybe
- 34:44Speaker 1: that's what's catching me here, but I can't believe the
- 34:48Speaker 1: public are coming in. I guess I get it because
- 34:50Speaker 1: the Giants are so bad, but they're they're taking the
- 34:53Speaker 1: Cowboys minus nine and a half. It's it's blown my
- 34:55Speaker 1: mind here. It's like, who can this defense stop? I know,
- 34:59Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm like, think about it now. The
- 35:00Speaker 1: Giants are so bad. I don't know why I love
- 35:02Speaker 1: this line so much, Like I have it at seven
- 35:05Speaker 1: seven and a half, So like, I'm getting a ton
- 35:07Speaker 1: of value here on the Giants in a divisional game
- 35:10Speaker 1: against the Cowboys. Who, Yeah, their offense is incredible, and
- 35:13Speaker 1: maybe that's what I'm misreading here, is that they're gonna
- 35:15Speaker 1: get scores and the Giants with terrible Daniel Jones, they'll
- 35:18Speaker 1: they'll just get stops themselves because they can't complete their
- 35:20Speaker 1: down passes. So I'm with you. We can stay away,
- 35:24Speaker 1: but I cannot bet the Cowboys minus not and a half.
- 35:28Speaker 1: You're gonna so you're gonna bet this game regardless. Yeah,
- 35:32Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna take the Giants money line. That's how
- 35:34Speaker 1: much I don't believe in this Cowboys team right now.
- 35:37Speaker 1: I think something's wrong with them. In a normal year,
- 35:40Speaker 1: if they had a pack house, this is a great
- 35:42Speaker 1: spot for the Cowboys. This is that they should kill
- 35:45Speaker 1: the Giants here. But I'm gonna trust that with the
- 35:47Speaker 1: sparse fans down in Dallas and the Giants been playing,
- 35:50Speaker 1: they played better on the road they do at home.
- 35:52Speaker 1: They've covered twice this year, and both times it's been
- 35:53Speaker 1: on the road. I'm I'm gonna ride that trend. I'm
- 35:55Speaker 1: gonna take the Giants here. You were going to take
- 35:58Speaker 1: the Giants who are school worrying about three and a
- 36:01Speaker 1: half points a game, with a with a quarterback who
- 36:04Speaker 1: can't convert a third down unless he's lucky enough to
- 36:07Speaker 1: fumble the ball forward. And you've got them going on
- 36:11Speaker 1: the road even in a seventeen thousand person you know,
- 36:16Speaker 1: fan capacity, against a quarterback who has thrown for more
- 36:19Speaker 1: yards in the first four games than any quarterback in
- 36:22Speaker 1: NFL history, who is against a team that is desperate
- 36:26Speaker 1: for a win, desperate and this Giants team is terrible defensively,
- 36:32Speaker 1: and you're telling me you will bet the money line
- 36:34Speaker 1: in this game. What is the money line on this
- 36:35Speaker 1: game right now? So it's nine a half, So I'm
- 36:37Speaker 1: guessing it's like that's off top of my head. But
- 36:41Speaker 1: this is like I I every week I do money
- 36:43Speaker 1: line parlays. And we talked about like I really like
- 36:45Speaker 1: the Browns and the Eagles last week, so I put
- 36:47Speaker 1: their money lines together. So you like those are you
- 36:50Speaker 1: getting sane odds on these big money lines. So I'll
- 36:53Speaker 1: put a grand it's to win ten grand, and then
- 36:54Speaker 1: I'll just wait live watching the game, like and Eagles,
- 36:58Speaker 1: and he just heads live. So say the Eagles, I
- 37:01Speaker 1: forget what point it was where they got up, Um,
- 37:03Speaker 1: I think it was a touchdown. That's when I just
- 37:05Speaker 1: take the forty nine years at seven and a half
- 37:08Speaker 1: or eight plut plus eight as a dog and try
- 37:11Speaker 1: to hit the middle. So with this week, we haven't
- 37:14Speaker 1: gotted the games yet, like the Vikings money line, with
- 37:17Speaker 1: like the Chargers money line, those are kind of things
- 37:19Speaker 1: like I'll stack those like you in your water stream
- 37:22Speaker 1: to go. There's no way the Charges will beat the Saints,
- 37:24Speaker 1: and there's no way the Vikings, you just got their
- 37:26Speaker 1: first one, are gonna beat Downbeaty Bo Russell Wilson. But
- 37:28Speaker 1: these are just games where the lines have gotten so
- 37:30Speaker 1: high because these teams are so undervalue that if I
- 37:33Speaker 1: just hit these kind of money line parlays just three
- 37:35Speaker 1: times in a season, I've doubled. I've doubled that original
- 37:38Speaker 1: bank roller tripled it, so I don't want to scare
- 37:42Speaker 1: people wrong here. I would not recommend to anybody listening
- 37:44Speaker 1: here to uh take the Giants money line, but this
- 37:47Speaker 1: is one of those where I think I'm getting an
- 37:49Speaker 1: extra two and a half numbers of value and that
- 37:51Speaker 1: goes into the money line. So I'm gonna take that
- 37:53Speaker 1: just because I think there's value on it. All right.
- 37:55Speaker 1: By the way, the number on the money line right
- 37:56Speaker 1: now is uh plus three fifty Giants plus three fifty.
- 38:00Speaker 1: All right. Let's the Broncos Patriots game is not posted
- 38:05Speaker 1: right now, so I cannot talk about that game. I apologize.
- 38:08Speaker 1: I got a couple of tweets from people saying, hey,
- 38:10Speaker 1: you gotta talk about all the games this one I can't.
- 38:12Speaker 1: There's no number up right now unless you're seeing something.
- 38:14Speaker 1: But I'm not seeing a number. Yeah, And like if
- 38:17Speaker 1: I get it like that, people want to talk about
- 38:19Speaker 1: these games, were like, what can we really do without
- 38:21Speaker 1: knowing who's playing? Without lines up? So I'm with all
- 38:25Speaker 1: on that. On Twitter, you can reach out to either
- 38:27Speaker 1: of us and we'll give you our opinions um later
- 38:29Speaker 1: in the week on it obviously, but for right now,
- 38:32Speaker 1: my only advice would be everyone's gonna take the under,
- 38:35Speaker 1: so I'll take the over, And I have nothing else
- 38:37Speaker 1: about that game. Both teams are banged up and hurt.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Whatever it opens that say, it's horrier standing at QB.
- 38:43Speaker 1: I'll probably end up on the Patriots after a bad
- 38:45Speaker 1: loss them to bounce back. But I can't. I can't
- 38:48Speaker 1: honestly tell you what to do with this game, all right,
- 38:50Speaker 1: I gotta give everybody reminder, go rate and review the podcast,
- 38:54Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast, use the phrase that pays. Simon says, sorry,
- 39:00Speaker 1: and if we choose that very creative review, then you
- 39:05Speaker 1: will win. Next week a f reaction network couldy and
- 39:07Speaker 1: we will announce the winner of this week's reaction Network
- 39:10Speaker 1: couldie at the end of the show. Getting to the
- 39:13Speaker 1: end of this slate here in the last four games,
- 39:17Speaker 1: the last four game, we've got the Indianapolis Colts visiting
- 39:21Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns culture three point favorites on the road.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Wait wow, sent of the money so far coming in
- 39:31Speaker 1: on the Colds, But of the bets so right now.
- 39:35Speaker 1: When you've got money on one side, reminder, money on
- 39:37Speaker 1: one side, bets on the other side, that tends to
- 39:40Speaker 1: mean pros on the one side, which in this case
- 39:42Speaker 1: is the Colts. Joe's on the Browns sign. Yeah, I
- 39:46Speaker 1: get what they're seeing here. The Pros are coming in
- 39:48Speaker 1: because the Cults have been good to them. They're a
- 39:49Speaker 1: well coached team, sold them both sides of the ball,
- 39:52Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers has kept together. And we're going against
- 39:55Speaker 1: the Cleveland team. Now, Who's I mean? That must be
- 39:58Speaker 1: their first back to back double digit wins in a
- 40:01Speaker 1: long time. Another Cowboys came back there and kind of
- 40:04Speaker 1: made it a game. And I don't know if if
- 40:07Speaker 1: if I'm just reading this wrong or if I'm overthinking it,
- 40:11Speaker 1: but I just I'm just waiting for the floor to
- 40:13Speaker 1: fall out on this Colts team. It's Rivers plays with fire.
- 40:16Speaker 1: Every time he throws the ball, his arm looks like
- 40:18Speaker 1: a noodle arm. And the other times he puts it
- 40:19Speaker 1: right on the dome on a guy up the sideline.
- 40:21Speaker 1: And I'm gonna back to Browns here. I'm not gonna
- 40:24Speaker 1: be happy about it. I'm gonna kick myself for it,
- 40:27Speaker 1: but I'm I'm gonna trust that the Browns can play
- 40:30Speaker 1: well at home. The Colts, after back to back road games,
- 40:33Speaker 1: are gonna lay in neck here well, Look, this is
- 40:35Speaker 1: a strength versus strength, right, I mean, even without Nick Chubb,
- 40:38Speaker 1: the Browns have a really great rushing offense, best in
- 40:42Speaker 1: football x X, best in football statistically, they're executing at
- 40:46Speaker 1: an incredibly high level. Yeah. And the Colts, meanwhile, they've
- 40:50Speaker 1: got the best rushing defense, and not just that, but
- 40:53Speaker 1: like the best scoring defense. So a Browns team that
- 40:56Speaker 1: has scored thirty points three straight weeks, first time in
- 40:59Speaker 1: fifty years, the Cleveland Browns have done that going against
- 41:02Speaker 1: a very very strong scoring defense and a very strong
- 41:06Speaker 1: rushing defense. I get why the professionals are back in
- 41:09Speaker 1: the Colts here, which is why it makes me incredibly
- 41:12Speaker 1: nervous that you like the Browns. Yeah, and I can
- 41:15Speaker 1: see that too, because historically the good run defense will
- 41:18Speaker 1: stop the good run offense. Yeah, I'm with you. We
- 41:21Speaker 1: can stay away, but yeah, I do. I just like
- 41:23Speaker 1: the Browns here because I'm banking on their offense being
- 41:25Speaker 1: able to outproduce the Colts. But with all the injuries
- 41:28Speaker 1: the brown secondary, I guess I guess you're right. I
- 41:30Speaker 1: guess we can just put this on the side. All right, Philly,
- 41:32Speaker 1: Right there, you sounded like you were directly from the
- 41:35Speaker 1: center of Philadelphia. The Browns offense Seahawks minus seven at
- 41:41Speaker 1: home against the Vikings, desperate fur a win, looking like crap.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Their defense talk about banged up. This is going to
- 41:49Speaker 1: be a stay away from me. You're gonna have to
- 41:51Speaker 1: convince me on this one because it's either for me.
- 41:54Speaker 1: It's either the Seahawks or to stay away because this
- 41:57Speaker 1: this Vikings defense isn't tatters. Yeah you're I'm with you
- 42:01Speaker 1: on that. And like, what I like about this game
- 42:04Speaker 1: is just the fact that Seattle is undefeated. They're undefeated
- 42:07Speaker 1: against the spread too, So I'm just playing the numbers
- 42:09Speaker 1: that they're due for a letdown. I thought we're gonna
- 42:11Speaker 1: get it last week. All the things were there for
- 42:13Speaker 1: it to be a letdown, but the Dolphins in capitalized.
- 42:16Speaker 1: So yeah, we can stay away about I'll play Minnesota
- 42:19Speaker 1: plus seven and a half. Well, I mean when you
- 42:22Speaker 1: say that, it's like, why would I not want to
- 42:25Speaker 1: be doing what you're doing with my money? Do you
- 42:27Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because, like I told you we're
- 42:29Speaker 1: in the podcast, I overthink our five picks like you
- 42:31Speaker 1: wouldn't believe it. Like I'm up Saturday night late, I
- 42:33Speaker 1: should be thinking about my clients and my own bets
- 42:35Speaker 1: when I'm like, yeah, these five are this are we
- 42:37Speaker 1: this is really the five are gone with So I'm
- 42:40Speaker 1: with you, man, this is like like there's other games
- 42:43Speaker 1: that are like you put your nuts on the table,
- 42:45Speaker 1: your big balls, like we don't have to do in Minnesota.
- 42:47Speaker 1: Like that's like, that's what I mean. That's why, like
- 42:49Speaker 1: last week I was second guesting the Dolphins one because
- 42:51Speaker 1: it's just I hate going against Russ and like I
- 42:53Speaker 1: hate being on the spot again where I'm trying to
- 42:55Speaker 1: do it for us again. So I'm with you, let's
- 42:57Speaker 1: just stay away. I don't want to put Minnesota. We
- 42:59Speaker 1: need Matt Mitchell, our producer. He is going to have
- 43:02Speaker 1: to create a big balls better the Week there game
- 43:09Speaker 1: where we are just putting our nuts on the table.
- 43:11Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the Giants. I think
- 43:13Speaker 1: in the spirit, in the spirit of the big balls
- 43:16Speaker 1: Better the Week, we might have to make it the Giants.
- 43:20Speaker 1: I might even put a little taste on the money
- 43:22Speaker 1: line in then that that are the Eagles. That the
- 43:24Speaker 1: because the Eagles is even more insane because like everyone
- 43:27Speaker 1: loves Pittsburgh right now and everyone is just like the
- 43:30Speaker 1: Eagles are banged up in their trash, so that might
- 43:32Speaker 1: be the biggest one alright. Meanwhile, the Saints apparently only
- 43:35Speaker 1: play in prime time because they're back on Monday Night.
- 43:37Speaker 1: There's seven and a half point favorites against the Los
- 43:40Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, and Justin Herbert, I don't have a read
- 43:43Speaker 1: on this game. It's a weird number for me, kind
- 43:45Speaker 1: of not indicating anything. I don't see any value convinced
- 43:49Speaker 1: me otherwise. I hate back in rookies and primetime games,
- 43:53Speaker 1: especially uh, especially where it's back to back road games
- 43:57Speaker 1: for the Chargers. But I still you last week with
- 44:00Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I still have not seeing what I need
- 44:03Speaker 1: to see from him, and he still doesn't look right.
- 44:06Speaker 1: So we'll wait and we'll see what danger report is
- 44:09Speaker 1: if we even think about putting this one in. But
- 44:11Speaker 1: if Michael Thomas is out again and the Chargers are
- 44:16Speaker 1: full go, because right now the Chargers they might be down,
- 44:20Speaker 1: I want to say it's three offensive alignment. I want
- 44:23Speaker 1: to wait and see what the deals with their O line.
- 44:26Speaker 1: But I would take the seven and a half of
- 44:27Speaker 1: the Chargers. But I'm not gonna put this from the
- 44:30Speaker 1: competition yet, all right, So that's the slate right now.
- 44:34Speaker 1: And don't forget go rate and review the podcast. We're
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- 44:41Speaker 1: week's phrase that pays to win a Free Action Network hoodie. Uh.
- 44:46Speaker 1: Simon says, I'm sorry for uh and he's apologizing to me,
- 44:50Speaker 1: which is gracious of him, considering he's giving us his
- 44:53Speaker 1: time and his advice and his wisdom for not putting
- 44:56Speaker 1: the Browns in our final five. And so right now,
- 45:01Speaker 1: in our final five, we have our first Thursday Night
- 45:04Speaker 1: pick of the week, the Bears plus five and a half.
- 45:06Speaker 1: We are considering we have to betting your balls picks
- 45:12Speaker 1: of the week right now, the Eagles plus seven against
- 45:15Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Giants plus nine and a half. We
- 45:18Speaker 1: might want to go money line against the Cowboys. So Bears, Eagles,
- 45:23Speaker 1: Giants to other games. Were considering Rams minus eight against
- 45:27Speaker 1: the Washington football team, Miami plus eight against the forty
- 45:31Speaker 1: Niners right now. Other games, other games we're thinking about.
- 45:34Speaker 1: We're thinking about Ravens is huge favorites against the Bengals.
- 45:39Speaker 1: I might love this game. I might fall in love
- 45:41Speaker 1: with it, but we're waiting for the number to move.
- 45:44Speaker 1: I think at some point we're going to talk about
- 45:49Speaker 1: the Ravens line moving and we're gonna want that one.
- 45:51Speaker 1: I bet Houston because we want to bet against. We
- 45:54Speaker 1: want to bet on new coaches, and maybe the Browns
- 45:58Speaker 1: as we get to it. But those are those are
- 46:01Speaker 1: the games, the Bears, Eagles, Rams, Dolphins, Giants, Ravens, Texans, Browns.
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