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- Sarah Harding: Hello and welcome back for another episode of the Resting Stitch Face Podcast. I'm your co-host, Dr. Sarah Harding, along with Erin Sheffield: Dr. Aaron Sheffield. So to today's episode is brought to you by Google because even in our forties, it's the only thing keeping us from looking like dum-dums sometimes, right? Sarah Harding: Hola. Well, that's how we roll. Sometimes you need a little help. Erin Sheffield: So I wanted to talk today about some confessions, things that as forty plus year old surgeons, we still kind of embarrassingly don't understand or know. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. There's a lot, as it turns out. Erin Sheffield: So there's a lot. Yes. And that was like in high school when people would use slang terms usually for inappropriate things. And you don't have any idea what they're talking about, but also you don't want to ask because you know it's going to be like super embarrassing. And thankfully now we have the internet. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have to go to the Dewey Decimal system in the card catalogue to Yeah. Erin Sheffield: That's how you feel sometimes. So the first one for me, anytime we're at like a shareholder meeting for the corporation and they're talking about ebita, I'm just like Sarah Harding: Yes, yes. Erin Sheffield: And even when they tell me what it means, I'm still just like, What? Sarah Harding: Was that English? Erin Sheffield: Wait, budget something and into b I I literally cannot remember what it stands for. I know it has to do with like money coming in and out, but it's a good thing I'm not a business person. Sarah Harding: What? I know. Yeah. I'll tell you a thing that made me feel better about that was that when I was talking to the dentist that used to own the dental practice that I go to, to get my teeth clean stuff, he had brought on a younger guy and then eventually sold to him. But he was telling me about how he was really excited to have him there because he was really in the know about the business stuff and he talked about this Ebitta and the older dentist who just retired last year. was like, I've never paid attention to that. I don't even know what that is. And I was like, Yes. All right. Well, that makes two of us, bro. So, yeah. There's some encouragement for you. Erin Sheffield: Ha ha ha Okay, it's not not just me. That's good. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Erin Sheffield: my gosh, yes. What about you? Do you have any thoughts? Sarah Harding: Yeah. A lot of thoughts. business wise There's so much that I don't understand. So having started this little S corporation in California, it is shocking to me that so many people have businesses and that they un that they don't go to jail because there's like so much random crap that you're supposed to know about. And I'm like, I had no idea. You know, and I keep getting like nasty grams and stuff. And I'm like, gosh. You know, and there's like seventy-five deadlines throughout the year. I'm like, I don't even make any money. What are you doing? And so, yes, that's what I don't understand. Taxes and small businesses and how in the world people like sell jewelry and have a small business and don't just lose their minds. That's all. Erin Sheffield: Yeah. There's that I mean, I've started my small business and I feel like a complete dum dum. Like someone the other day I was talking about, Yeah, and your business insurance and I was like Is my business supposed to have insurance? Is that for all businesses? What kind of business are we talking about? Sarah Harding: I know. I know. And like I know that as a practice owner, like with a building and things, you have that. Because I think you can't secure a lease without business insurance. But I don't Erin Sheffield: Yeah. Right. Sarah Harding: And what are they ensuring? I don't know. Speaking of things we don't understand, yeah. Erin Sheffield: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know either. If anyone can help us, please tell us. Please come save the day before we need the insurance for whatever we don't know that we need it for. Sarah Harding: Yes, because speaking of insurance, malpractice. I don't understand. I don't understand it. Because it's like they say, okay, you can you have to get malpractice. And then if you practice in a private practice, it's this rate. But if you practice in a corporate practice, it's gonna be this rate. And I guess I get that, right? Because like the likelihood you're gonna be sued is probably a little bit more in a in a corporate place. And but then now that I'm trying to get this malpractice stuff covered in Illinois. it's a whole other thing. It's a whole other thing. And I'm sorry, we can't even as a nationwide company that covers you and your malpractice, we can't do that. So I've talked to this other person, they I don't understand. Like they can't. Erin Sheffield: They can't. I mean Illinois is like the worst. Is that why? Sarah Harding: But it's but they still have coverage there. I don't understand. But that's kind of like me saying, Okay, well I'm gonna drive to Arizona and then my car insurance company being like, Okay, great, well you're gonna have to get additional insurance so that you can cross the state lines and drive there. Erin Sheffield: Yeah. Sarah Harding: Why? I don't know. Erin Sheffield: I don't know. That sounds weird. Sarah Harding: So they're that's what I don't understand. Welcome. Erin Sheffield: Yeah, huh. Yeah. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. Erin Sheffield: What about folding a fitted sheet? Can you do that? You are? Of course you are. I've watched videos and I'm like, I got this. And I'll like get the corners and all the corners, like layering, and and then even if I feel like I did it right, it's still just like a gobbledygook, mushy mesh of sheet. It never looks. Sarah Harding: I'm good at it. Yep. Yep. Yep. Erin Sheffield: Like anything but a pile. Sarah Harding: It did. It's so funny. Mine never turns out exactly the same, but it usually I don't know. I just I don't know. I do the corners and then I get it nicely situated and then I fold it into fourths and then into fourths. Erin Sheffield: What's the trick? Is there a trick? Like I'm I'm pretty good at visual spatial, you know? Three D orientation of things, et cetera. Thank you, Dental School. But like I don't know. I feel like I do it right and it's still just crappy. Sarah Harding: Yeah. How did you do on the perceptual ability test in your DAT? Do you remember what your score was? Yeah. Erin Sheffield: Did pretty well. I don't know. Do you? Yeah? What it was it? Sarah Harding: I think I got a eighteen, twenty two. So my clearly my perceptual ability is far more outstanding than my academic abilities. Yeah. Well, eighteen was the academic part. Twenty two is the perceptual ability part. Erin Sheffield: Eighteen twenty two What does eighteen twenty two mean? you're saying like your total score and then that score? Sarah Harding: Yeah, that's how they scored it. Erin Sheffield: I don't remember that. I feel like tw twenty one's sticking out in my brain, but I don't remember. I think I'm better now. Sarah Harding: Clearly it was a defining moment in my life. Yeah, that was my favorite part. If I could take that, if I could take that every like six months, I'd be like, Yeah, let's do it. Let's go. Probably. Mm-hmm. Erin Sheffield: I think if I did it now I'd be better. Yeah, for sure. Like doing Legos. People are like, I don't understand what that is and I can't see that backside. And I'm like, That's okay. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: Like Ikea used to be terrible. Now it's like ch ch ch chch ch Got it, you know. Sarah Harding: yeah. I've yeah, I've always loved that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I do feel like I got a lot better with that stuff after dental school. Like I I think I never thought of myself as much of an artist before dental school. And then after dental school, I I think I just saw things differently. I don't know. And I'm really good at woodworking now too. Cause yeah, like building people's faces back and now I'm like, these are all the same tools, they're just bigger. Erin Sheffield: Thank you, Dental School. You are? You're like building stuff? And cheaper. A lot cheaper. I remember in dental school one like we had a lecture on distraction and the professor was like a big wig in developing distraction techniques and the whole lecture was and this is a screwdriver that I developed that Sarah Harding: Yeah. A whole lot cheaper. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: It's like a five hundred dollar screwdriver. And here's another one and that one's like six hundred dollars. And can you imagine how much cheaper it'd be if we could just go to the hardware store? Like the whole extra Sarah Harding: Yep. Erin Sheffield: That's another thing I don't understand is the up upcharge on everything in medicine. Sarah Harding: Every single thing. Every single thing. It's insane. Yeah, it's insane. I don't understand it. Erin Sheffield: Like sometimes you can order it off of Amazon and it'll be like a tenth of the price for the same thing. Sarah Harding: Right. Yeah. Even like I used to get my whitening like syringes from Amazon. Cause it was a whole lot cheaper to do that. And it was coming from the same company. Here's another one for you. Why is it that when I order something from Amazon and it's shipped by XYZ Company and it takes two days? But if I order it, if I go to XYZ company's website and I order it from them, it takes two weeks. I don't understand. Mm-hmm. I don't understand. Erin Sheffield: Yeah. And you have to pay for shipping. I don't know, it's sitting in a warehouse. Amazon just waiting to be shipped out for on the cheap. How do they ship everything on the cheap? Like how come how come I can send you your shirt that I got from Mexico and it's gonna cost me thirty dollars, but Amazon can send me a a couch and a kitchen for free. Sarah Harding: Okay. Erin Sheffield: How I don't understand. Sarah Harding: I don't either. I don't either. Nope. Yeah. Sounds like California to me. Yeah. Why do I have to pay like massive amounts of property taxes here and I still have to drive up a dirt road to get to my house? That's a publicly maintained road. I don't know. I don't know. Erin Sheffield: subsidies or something. Clearly my Amazon Prime is paying for it. Who knows, California? Why do we live in the two worst run states in the country? Sarah Harding: I don't know. Well, two of the three anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I I was telling my stepdaughter this this weekend. We went to Wyoming. And I'm not supposed to tell anybody that we went to Wyoming. We're supposed to say we went to Fort Collins. That way nobody knows how wonderful Wyoming is. So anyway, in Fort Collins. I was telling her that every time I travel outside of California, it makes me realize how much I hate California. And she was like Erin Sheffield: yes. Sarah Harding: Why? And I was like, I don't know. I can't explain it. It's like every there's like all of this input that comes and it just makes me like, I hate California more. You know, because you're like, why is it that I'm in the middle of the country where it takes a lot more effort to get goods and services out here? But like gas is two dollars a gallon cheaper. Like what? I don't understand. And everybody's like nice to you and happy to help. And I don't know. There you go. I don't know. Yeah. And then we went to the to the rodeo and you know, you buy a rodeo ticket, right? But parking is free and there's like all these nice people helping you park and get you in and all this stuff. But here I can go to one of the local parks, like a county park. Erin Sheffield: Because you live in San Diego. I don't know. Sarah Harding: And I have to pay for parking. Erin Sheffield: That's the cost of living in a place where people want to live. And there's lots of you. When you live in the middle of nowhere, there's plenty of parking. Sarah Harding: I know. But shocking. There was like so many people at the parks there and using the facilities, like the little, you know, what do you call it? Like the covered area. Erin Sheffield: Like the porta potty. Sarah Harding: No, no, like the little pavilion. There we go. Yes. Like, you know, there was like always people using it. The playgrounds were really nice. They weren't all decrepit and janky like a lot of times they are here. You know, they didn't have like, I don't know, you know, hypernic needles sticking out the ground every five feet there. Erin Sheffield: Pavilion, okay. That's better than a porta potty. Ew, ew. Ew. I mean flyover states, they're maybe not so bad. You're gonna come to Quincy and be like, my gosh, I love it here. I want to move here. Sarah Harding: yeah, see. Yeah. Yeah. Except that I'll probably not get there until the winter time and then I'll be like, why is it so cold? Erin Sheffield: And no, then you'll you'll be a popsicle for sure. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Sarah Harding: Yeah. A popsicle. Yeah. Yep. All right. What other forty year old things are you surprised about? Erin Sheffield: I don't know how to keep my house clean. Sarah Harding: That's because we have kids. Erin Sheffield: Yeah, but like I tell myself that, but I I don't know that my house is that clean before I had kids. And parts of my house, like my bedroom, that are my responsibility are still not very clean. And I know that because I take pictures in my mirror of my progress, my workout progress, and they are identical. There's always a stack of clothes on the chair. And the bed is usually not made. And it doesn't matter if it was three years ago or me. Well, hello, military. Sarah Harding: see, that's a that's one thing that I do every day. I make the bed. Gotta make the bed every day. Well, yeah. Not sure I was always really good at it, but it does. It starts out my day nice and then I'm like, okay, at least that's put together. Everything else can fall to health, but that's at least put together. Erin Sheffield: I know, I'm I'm terrible and people will be like, Pay a house cleaner and I'm like, I pay way too much for a cleaner to come every week. And it's it's nice for like an hour. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. My house used to be so clean before kids. Like that's my O C D though. Had to give up on that. Which really sucks because now it's like I'm like nervous when people come over because I'm like, God, they're gonna see all of the clutter and the mess and the right now. There's an obstacle course around my house, made up of things that are actually supposed to use be used for like little kid things. And then there wasn't enough of those to go around. And so chef put books as the other stepping stones. So now we've got mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: Mm. yes. Of course, as you would. Yeah. We have a stair slide that's been out for probably at least two or three weeks that no one's really sliding on much, but it's still there. Cause just in case. And when you're like, can we clean this up? They're like, I was using it. Were you? Were you? Plus, that's how I broke my tailbone was trying to be the fun mom doing the stair slide. And Sarah Harding: Because Yeah. Yeah. Right. Mm. When did that happen? I don't know. Erin Sheffield: That was treacherous. That was probably probably three years ago, maybe. Sarah Harding: you had a rough go with that, right? Mm-hmm. Erin Sheffield: I know, right? Yeah, like December is my month of breaking small bones in your body. If you want, if you're wanting to improve your conversation skills and you need something to talk about, and you don't know what, I will tell you, breaking your tailbone is fabulous for that because you carry a donut around, and everyone wants to know why you're carrying a donut around, and then you get to talk about your butt with every single person you meet for. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. You would be the hit amongst six and seven year olds. Erin Sheffield: For probably three to six months, depending on how well you heal. So everyone, it's like my pastor is talking to me about my butt and my patients are talking to me about my butt, like everyone. So yeah, it's kind of embarrassing. Sarah Harding: Mm. See? Yeah. Okay. Well, speaking of butts and things, yeah. See things I don't understand. I didn't realize until you and Ellie were talking about these plastic surgery sites, like that this Brazilian butt lift thing was such a thing. Like I'd heard of it before, but that people actually do it. And how do they sit down? Erin Sheffield: When you're healing? I don't know. I thought you're not supposed to, but then don't you usually pair it with like a boob job, so then you probably don't want to be on your stomach. So I don't know. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah, what do you do? 'Cause you also if you get your boot job, it's like hard to raise your arms up, so then you're on like a are you in like a Erin Sheffield: Mhm. And if you have a tummy tuck, you're supposed to be in a jackknife position, you know, partially bent. So if you do like the full maybe they don't do it together, maybe you have to do it separate. That seems really uncomfortable sitting right on your scar. Sarah Harding: gosh. Yeah. Yeah. And then do you think that your proprioception is like totally off? So you like aren't expecting your butt to hit so soon when you sit down in a chair and then all of a sudden you're like, whoa, I'm already in the chair. You know? Or kind of like when you sit on a toilet that you think is going to be higher and it's lower and you're like, you think you're falling, right? Maybe it's like the opposite of that. What do you think? Erin Sheffield: Yeah. Whoa. my gosh, yeah. And do you feel is it like sitting on water balloons and you're kinda like, whoa. Cause like at least if you have a boob job, you're not like doing those your boobs aren't like doing anything outside of feeding babies. Like they're not holding your weight up. I don't know. We need to know. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Like a waterbed. No. Yeah. Although when I lay on my when I lay on my stomach now, the right one's just wonky. I don't know what happened with this redo, but like it feels like I'm like this, like like it just like maybe it's sticks out farther. I don't it's I don't know. I don't know. It doesn't so that's kind of what I'm imagining with this Brazilian butt lift too. Erin Sheffield: weird. Yeah. Maybe they like go out instead of in and then you're like settling into your that sounds weird. We need someone who's had one done. Do we know any I'd like I don't know anyone who's had one done. If they have it's very subtle and I haven't learned about it. But if anyone has, please let's talk about this. Sarah Harding: Mm. Yeah. Or I've just always assumed that they just have a big butt. Like I truly have just assumed that 'cause I didn't realize it was such a prolific thing that this many people did. I had no idea. Erin Sheffield: I have no idea. I've never met anyone that's had one done. So please, the people I know that are hiding out, not telling us, please tell us because we need we need the answers. Cause I know my assistant was telling me about some of this stuff and I can't remember what it was, but I was like horrified. Like, what do you mean? Huh? What? You c had to lay on your stomach for six weeks or something. I don't know. It was crazy. my gosh. And then you have to wonder if you got like the real Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: The real deal, or if you got the silicone concrete injections, you know, it seems like that's like a real thing too. Sarah Harding: I thought they did it with fat. my gosh. I have so much to learn. I have no idea. Erin Sheffield: Well, like the real people do, but if you go to like Miami and get a ha some hack job Sarah Harding: in somebody's garage. I haven't read articles about that. But why would you go to somebody's garage anyway? Like you think that's gonna turn out well for you? Erin Sheffield: I know. You'd need I mean, you got I mean, you know, when you can't afford the hospital, you'd do what you gotta do. But even then, I was reading something, the like mortality rate is so high on that. It was like I feel like someone was saying one in three thousand or something. I was like, ooh, that's kind of too much for me. I'm just sticking with this. Sarah Harding: Yeah, they still charge a boatload of money. really? I'm not a you know. And also, why is it that the oral surgeons are like the hated people? Like we're taking out your wisdom teeth in order to decrease your inflammatory load and make you healthier. and we have a much better success rate. And meanwhile, you're over here like giving people bigger butts and you have a one in three thousand mortality rate, like Erin Sheffield: American booty. Sarah Harding: Why aren't we talking about that more? Erin Sheffield: I know I know, man. I yeah, yeah. Sarah Harding: Hmm, mmm, mm. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: Hm. How do I how do I clean my ho how do I keep my house clean? What's the strategy? Sarah Harding: Start with by making your bed. Yep. Make your bed every day. And then you're gonna be like, that is really nice. Yep, that's really nice. And then you'll be more willing to maybe not leave other things out. Maybe I'll be more I don't know. Or move the chair. Don't put a chair there. So you can't put clothes on it. Make maybe move the chair somewhere else. Right? I don't know. girl, I will I'll reorganize your whole house. That's my jam. Erin Sheffield: Okay, when you come you tell me where to move the chair. I'm worried about you coming. I'm worried about you coming 'cause you're gonna be like, I like didn't know this was who you are or maybe you do. Sarah Harding: My sister used to call me the inventory specialist. No, I won't. Mm-mm. I won't be that way. No. It's my time to shine. It makes me feel needed. Yeah. Makes me gives me purpose. Makes me feel needed. Erin Sheffield: Your time to shine. As long as it's done with zero judgment, it sounds great. Sarah Harding: There is zero judgment. Listen, you're working way more than I am and my house isn't clean either, so Okay. Erin Sheffield: I mean sometimes definition of clean, you know, there's like big. I don't think can just to be clear, I don't think I'm dirt like I don't think your house is dirty. I think there's a difference between messy and dirty. Every once in a while we verge on the dirty and I'm like, why are we so dirty? This is disgusting. What are you guys doing? But most of the time Sarah Harding: Yeah. Like cluttery, yeah. I live on a farm, Erin. Just remember that. Just remember that I live on a farm. Erin Sheffield: Most of the time there's not like disgusting stuff around ex unless the freezer just went out and we're still trying to get it cleaned up, but most the time not. Yeah. other thing I don't know how to do in my forties is my makeup and my hair. Sarah Harding: this this curling iron thing that I just got that I forget what it's called, but the one from Amazon. it has changed my life. Because it actually makes it look like I like worked hard at it and it only took me like seven minutes. Yeah, it's like a barrel and it like sucks it up and it spins it around and it takes literally like less than ten minutes, maybe seven minutes. Erin Sheffield: Does it like Does it like suck it up and in? Mm. Sarah Harding: And it lasts all day. It's incredible. Makeup is something that I never learned how to do and it drives me crazy because I'm like, Erin Sheffield: that's incredible. Sarah Harding: I wish that I knew how to do makeup, but then I'm also like, I don't really wanna do that. Cause it's really expensive. And it takes so much time. And yes, I might look a little nicer, but the amount of times that I get dressed up in a way that I need to have like a full face of makeup, I think, is so little. And then you end up throwing away all the makeup. And then it was kind of stupid. Erin Sheffield: Yeah. Sarah Harding: And when I've had my makeup done, you know, for like a wedding or something. It feels like once again, like there's a mask on my face and I'm feel like like yeah like like I can't and then when you look real close, you can like see it. It's like you're like Erin Sheffield: I hate that. And your kid gives you a hug and then they've got makeup on their shirt and stuff. I hate that. Luckily my skin I'm wearing a little mascara today, but luckily my skin is usually really nice and I don't have to put anything on my skin. Just try to do a little like eye makeup but Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Mine's gotten mine's gotten to be there somehow. Now it's just all falling down. Now I just look these I've got saddlebags under my chin. Erin Sheffield: But why are all the makeup tutorials for people who don't have hooded eyes when it seems like almost everyone, if you look at them, has hooded eyes. Like I feel like hooded eyes are probably more common than not hooded eyes. Am I wrong? I don't know. But they act like this is the way you do makeup. Unless you're that weirdo, that really strange, unusual weirdo that happens to have hooded eyes, then you're just stuck on your own. Sarah Harding: It's it's It's so true. Yeah. I don't know, but I do feel like a lot of people had ho I mean, I have them, you have them. Like I feel like it is a lot more common than we give credit for, but then the people that do all the makeup tutorials don't have that. And so then you're like, Well, that's not helpful, thank you. Erin Sheffield: I know. Maybe that's why they think they're good at makeup, 'cause it it looks good on them. Sarah Harding: Right. Yeah. That's fair. Erin Sheffield: That must be it. We're just doomed, so not even worth trying. Sarah Harding: Yeah, I can see it. I can see it. Or I can't because my eyes are so headed. Erin Sheffield: I should probably also get filler in my lips too. I have like the smallest lips, but I'm like freaked out by filler. Sarah Harding: I am too, especially in the lips. You know, but Brooke Stubbs was posting this thing about the lip lays. I know. I feel like I don't know. I feel like that seems more appealing to me than lip filler, just because Erin Sheffield: I was wondering about that. Mm. I was seeing that too. I was like, should I go visit her and laser my lips and 'cause they're so small. But still beautiful. They're still we can I mean, yeah. I mean, how how smart and hilarious and beautiful can two women be? We gotta leave we have to leave a little bit for the little people. Otherwise it would be this podcast would be so unrelatable. Sarah Harding: Nine or two. No well. You know, we can't have it all. Ha ha ha Right. Yeah. What else do you need from us? What else do you need from us? You know. Erin Sheffield: No one would listen. It would be aspirational for a while and then it would just be depressing. Sarah Harding: Right. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Erin Sheffield: my gosh. Okay, here's the biggest thing I don't understand in my forties. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Okay. Erin Sheffield: This is serious. Why are people so mean? Like I really don't understand. I try so hard to be as nice as possible and it doesn't mean I'm always successful. But it seems like there are people that just choose to be mean or are just by default mean. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. Do you now are you talking in real life or online? Okay. Because I feel like people are mean online because they think that they're anonymous and they can get away with it. And it's real easy to be a keyboard ninja that's mean, right? Because there's not like immediate consequences. I find that in real life, there's some mean people, but it's way fewer and far between. Because, you know, if somebody's mean to you and you're like, Erin Sheffield: Either. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Sarah Harding: Did you just say this? And then they're like, Yes, that didn't sound nice. You know, I think that it's I think that our perception has changed. Erin Sheffield: Mm. Sarah Harding: But, you know, I think that also people are now more entitled to and they want everything to be on their timeline and their schedule. And so when it's not, or there's, you know, I think people have a loss of feeling of control and so then they take it out on you. Which is a lot like how I feel trying to get my license in Illinois and my malpractice. But I've still managed to continue to be nice. But I'm like, I don't know how much longer I can be nice for 'cause if I'm paying you money, you should probably do a job, you know? It's Erin Sheffield: You should probably do a job. Sarah Harding: Yeah. I'm gonna start just charging people for wisdom teeth and then just being like, we'll schedule you someday. Thank you for your money. I think that's it. Right. It'll probably get done. Yeah. But if it doesn't get done, then I'm gonna I'm gonna keep your money, but also I'm gonna charge you extra money to get out of the contract. Just in case. Erin Sheffield: We can't tell you when, but I mean eventually. Well, and then they will probably it doesn't matter. When you apply for your contract, they have everyone's on the same schedule, I think, in this date for the licensure. So if you paid on August first and then everyone has to pay aga like August thirty first, I feel like they're just like, pay again. Sarah Harding: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: That doesn't seem fair. And then they can take as long as they want. And this is your life and your livelihood on the line. You can't work and do make money and pay your bills until they do. But the second they come to audit you or have a question for you, you've got a strict guideline and you better respond by this time. And it doesn't go both ways. It seems unfair. Sarah Harding: No. Uhhuh. You better answer right away. Yeah. Life is hard. Erin Sheffield: Life is hard sometimes, you're right. You're right. Sarah Harding: It is hard. Yeah. But that's the other thing. I think that it's really interesting. And a reason why I think I've always said that I would pay for my kids to go to trade school, but they're on their own for college. Because there's so many tradespeople that you can't get them to show up. And if they show up, they're kind of like, Yeah, I'll show up when I want or however. And and everything is so it's so difficult. And so if you are a person that is a tradesperson. And you can just show up and be a nice person. Like Erin Sheffield: Yeah. Between nine and seven. And then at six forty five if you don't come you just say, sorry, I'll be there tomorrow between three and six or something. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: Speaking of which. We've had water in the basement. Because there's tree branches going into the roots, excuse me, going into the sewer lines. Branches, sewer lines. And there's maybe like a bad kink going around. And so I keep getting water and we thought it was from rain. Then we thought it was from a leaky pipe. Then we thought it was from the dehumidifier spilling over. And then we finally Sarah Harding: I was like branches. The freezer dying. Erin Sheffield: Well, and then we finally got them to come and they like, it's a sewer. And so you're like, Ew, gross sewer water coming back in. And then we're we're gonna have to rip up the driveway to get under it to the pipes. And so we're still waiting on that weeks later, 'cause they're behind. And then in the meantime, more water. So we thought, darn, it's coming back again. But then the freezer went out, so then all the sludge water was probably just nasty. Sarah Harding: Yeah. my gosh. Erin Sheffield: Melted freezer sludge. Anyway, so we're waiting on that. And then we've had this leak in the house. And we have we're trying to get our house resited and a bunch of stuff done. And it's been like a year and a half, almost two years, trying to get that done. So we're finally and so the builder came and I thought he took care of it. I was like, Yay, it hasn't happened because we're getting like huge Sarah Harding: my gosh. Erin Sheffield: Puddles of water in the bathroom and then leaking down to the next level, like catching buckets worth of water. And so he was, I was like, You guys fixed that. And he's like, No. This is like last week. You didn't? Because it seems like it stopped. And we're like, Well, that's good. Okay. And then we were watching TV the other night and it was raining. I was like, is it raining? Yeah, it's raining. And then Sarah Harding: my gosh. Erin Sheffield: It just sounds weird. Sounds like it's raining inside. Sarah Harding: Mm. Erin Sheffield: And then I'm looking over at the blinds. Is that a weird shadow on the blinds or are the blinds wet? And I go over and it's just like dripping. So I'm getting like a bowl underneath and it fills up with inches of water. And so we're like trying to hang towel, you know, we've got this historic home. Everything's wood. We've got these hundred and thirty-old irreplaceable windows that it's like dripping around the window and Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: The plasters falling down and it's just like, my gosh, please fix the rain in the house and the poop in the basement. Can we please? Can someone show up? They cannot. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. My house is like not a hundred and thirty years old. It's really like thirty years old. And but they it's like a Spanish style house and they built it like in the true you know, San Diego style with single pane glass and not real like weather protection or anything. And so our house, like the back side of the house is south. Erin Sheffield: Mm. no. Sarah Harding: east facing and so that's the direction that all of the storms come in. And so whenever it rains, I have to run around and put little spin up towels on the windowsills everywhere because if there's any wind at all, it'll all blow into the house and get puddles all along the Erin Sheffield: no. that's terrible. Sarah Harding: How about that? Yeah. Yeah. But there's like no way to fix it. 'Cause the way that they've built the windows is like Like without replacing these windows. Yeah, 'cause like the windows still like the outside part is here and then the windows here. And so like the rain can come here and then it just goes down like this. Yeah, it just goes down in. It's like the it's not not right. Should be like the other way. Like that. Right. Yeah. Anyway, that's how it's exciting. Yep. Erin Sheffield: Why isn't there a way to fix that? Come on. Just drips down. Good thing it's a desert and it doesn't rain very much. Sarah Harding: Right. Yeah. True. Yeah. And Erin Sheffield: Like here. It's like torrential downfall. I'm like, we were out of town. I think when we were in Japan, I was getting messages of people showing like a river of water down the main street. And I'm like, was it raining in our house? I didn't see the floor seems okay. I'm worried that the hundred and thirty year old floor is gonna not make it through this or the windows or something. Cause like, my gosh, the windows are six or seven feet tall. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Erin Sheffield: How do you replace that? Sarah Harding: I don't know. I don't know. Yes. Very affordable. Very affordable. Yeah. So, how'd the OR go today? Erin Sheffield: Custom window. Yeah. It's huge. I hate going to the OR. That's another thing I don't understand. I'm a surgeon and I'm supposed to love it, but I hate it so bad. And every time I have to go, I'm so salty and grumpy, and I feel like the worst possible version of myself. And I'm like, how come all the other surgeons are happy living their life in the OR? And I hate it so much. Sarah Harding: Yeah. So is it actually 'cause I love going to the OR. I love it. You know. But I don't like being inefficient with time in a way that your case takes thirty minutes and then you wait for sixty minutes for them to clean the room and set up for the next case. Because we all have been in places where they get it done faster. And so you know that it can happen. Erin Sheffield: Yeah, well I think that's it. Cause I in the OR in residency, it was great. But in residency I'd be there all day. I was at work for all day. Yeah, I'm there no matter what. And so if it takes long for turnover, well, I'm getting caught up on notes or I'm doing something else or I'm just there either way. But I think now most of the time I'm going to the OR, it's not because I'm doing an incredibly fun case. It's usually kind of a standard thing that Sarah Harding: You're there no matter what. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yes. Erin Sheffield: I could have done in the clinic, but they're too sick or there's something going on. Like today, you know, it was like dental alveolar stuff, but it takes forever. And so it's like 8 30, and I'm telling my kids I'll be home hopefully hour, hour and a half. So I leave at eight, so I'm on time. And then we didn't even go till nine fifty. And it's like we're at the beginning of the day. Why we're so far behind already. Sarah Harding: Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: And it took me like twenty, twenty-five minutes to do the case, but I get home at ten thirty. So twenty-five minutes of actual worth for about three hours of my time. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And it sucks as the patient too, right? Because you have to show up NPO and then you're supposed to your c surgery's at eight or nine, but then it's like, you've been bumped and so you're still hungry at two PM. You're like, my God. And then they're like, Well, we can try and give you some some here's this little lemon thing you can chew on. Erin Sheffield: Yeah, exactly. Well, and then a lot of times I'm doing little kids who just can't handle it. And so it takes literally five minutes. And so most time if it's like that, we'll just mask down, quickly whip out the tooth and wake up. And so that's pretty fast. But when there's multiple, then we'll intubate and it's like today they're trying to do nasal and that wasn't working very well. So then they had to switch oral and then they had to do it like it took Sarah Harding: Yeah. Erin Sheffield: 30 or 40 minutes to intubate this patient for a five minute, maybe 10 minute case, you know. And then it takes an hour to turn over. And they have always lost my consent form for some reason. And they always say I didn't do the HMP, even though I did. It just feels like it's always, And then, I'm doing a bone graft. So I to bring my own grafting stuff over because they don't have it, you know. So it just feels like it was not built for me. I love being in my clinic where I have all the things that I need and people who know how to do the procedures to help me and I would have done like six times as much in half the time. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: And then people are like, I can't believe she's married to Dr. Sheffield because she's such a bitch. 'Cause I'm always salty. I don't think they really think that. I think most of the time they think I'm nice, but it's just like, Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. That's stressful though, to have that like constant comparison because he's in the OR a lot more than you are. Yes. And so but then you're always gonna be compared to yes. Erin Sheffield: He's there all the time. He's there at least two days a week. And they're bringing cookies and you know, it's like they're having parties and I'm like, I don't even know who that person is. I can't recognize anyone. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: When I go every like four times a year and they're wearing masks and you know. But it makes me have this identity crisis of like, You're a surgeon and you hate the OR. What's wrong with you? And then I was sitting in the doctor's lounge, just kind of feeling out of place. And there's these people in there, and it just felt so like residency. They're like talking like Sarah Harding: Yeah. 'Cause you feel like an outsider. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: dude locker room chat like borderline enough for me like I'm here like they didn't quite go inappropriate was just making me feel kinda like this is very reminiscent of the good old days. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah. Like, does anybody have a tampon? Does anybody have a tampon? Erin Sheffield: Huh. Right. Yeah, what can we do? They were talking about like dating younger women and women in Brazil being prettier than the women in Colombia or vice versa. I can't remember. It was enthralling, really. And then I was finally filling out, at least like we got on Epic and like, yay, okay, even though haven't done somehow I tested out of the training, which I thought was amazing. my gosh, I tested out of the training. I don't have to go sit through hours. But then when it came time, I'm like, I don't know what to do. I don't have any order sets in or anything. What do I do? Sarah Harding: It's like cringy. Erin Sheffield: So at least I made it through that and then since I was waiting, the lady who's gonna help me came and wasn't all that helpful either. She didn't know how to do some of the stuff and Sarah Harding: Ha ha ha. Erin Sheffield: And then I'm filling out my op note. Sarah Harding: You're a what? you're oral. Ooh, yeah, I don't know that stuff. Sorry. I can't help you. You're gonna have to figure it out on your own. Like again? Erin Sheffield: yeah. I hate, I know. I'm filling out my op note and it's wanting me to put in fluids. And I'm like, I've never been asked as a surgeon how much fluids I the case got. I know thank you. And there are like six anesthesia people in there. You always have? No one's ever asked me. So they're like, I'm like, why do I have to fill this out? How do I know this? And they're like, Yeah, it's dumb. Just write, see the record or something. Sarah Harding: No no. I've always had to do that. Wait, were they asking for IV fluids or irrigation, like? Erin Sheffield: No, they want to know how much IV fluid the patient got during the anesthesia. And I was like, when I'm doing the anesthesia in my own clinic, I do because I'm the one administering it, but I don't know how much the anesthesiologist gave. Well, I've never been asked that before. In like the four different hospitals I've worked in, I've never had anyone ever asked that. So I was like, I don't know. Sarah Harding: don't you always put that in your note? I always ask. Yeah, like you say, like fluids, blood loss. how funny. There you go. Wow. I wonder if I've always just done it because you were trying to do like, you know, decrease your fluids, you know, for orthanathic cases and stuff. And so you always want to know like what it is so that that's documented in your own stuff so that later on you're like, yeah, they gave you a lot. That's probably why you're Erin Sheffield: Right. I don't know, maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years, but that's the first time anyone's ever asked me. And I was like, How do I know? How'd I know that? Where do I find that? Why do I have to put that in there? It was like a twenty minute case. She got like two hundred probably. Another thing I don't understand. I made it this long as a surgeon. Evidently I've been doing it so wrong. Sarah Harding: That's so funny. Yeah. Do know what I learned? I learned that a lot of OBs sew with like a like a hand by hand. They don't use a needle driver. Erin Sheffield: With their hand? What do you mean? How like with their fingers? Sarah Harding: Like like a like yeah, like I'm sewing like a quilt. Like yeah. Erin Sheffield: Do they have a giant needle? Sarah Harding: Yeah. Isn't that funny? I never knew that. That's like common, I think. Erin Sheffield: I feel like I'll get poked. And my needles are too small. And the tissue is too hard. Sarah Harding: Yeah, well yeah. And yeah, or too friable or too delicate, whatever it is. And you're like working on deep dark spaces that like, you know. Erin Sheffield: I know today I was struggling. This guy had dementia. And the wife is like, Will you please stitch him so he doesn't bleed? And I'm like, Yeah, I'll make sure. I'll pack some gel foam and put some stitches in just to kind of help. But you know, he didn't need stitches and I'm trying and his mouth wasn't opening very wide and there's just blood everywhere and just trying to get Sarah Harding: Yeah. Erin Sheffield: Through to the lingual to pull it through and it's the most friable tissue. And was saying, I promise I know how to suture. It does not look or feel like I do. But I am just really struggling. And at one point I was trying to just get the one good area of tissue that I could. And I was like, I can't even turn this corner. Like I'm hitting on bone and I can't get the angle. Sarah Harding: Hey, even hey, when that happens, yeah. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: doesn't need one there, so I'm gonna skip it. He's might bleed a little more, but it's so aggravating. I remember the first time I saw one of those suture practice kits that they make and it had a cup and you like suture inside a cup. And I was like, What's that for? What why would you suture in a cup? And someone said, Yeah, it's for when you're working like in a deep dark cavity. And I was like, What? that's weird. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Erin Sheffield: It's like the only way I've ever sutured like in dental school. That's the only time you got to suture. Is there another? Is there a bowl that everyone else is suturing in? I remember and the ENT residents would be like, You guys are so good at suturing in the mouth. How are you so good? And that was aha aha moment. Like, Yeah, I guess it is kind of weird. And there's tongues and saliva and Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yeah, you're like, is there another is there another place to sit through? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How funny. Erin Sheffield: Did you see that video I made about the tongues this week? My my kids are excited. They've been helping me make videos and it has, let's see how many. It's taken off. It has like 600 and something thousand views on it. And 655,000 views. And it just says the creepiest thing you can do to your dentist is lick their finger. Did you see that? Sarah Harding: I don't think so. No. Wow. yes, I've seen this. Yes, I did see it. Erin Sheffield: And I didn't think it would take off like that. But then I get people in there arguing. One lady's like, you shouldn't have gone into the profession if you can't handle a little tongue. And I was like, ma'am, that's not what this is about. You know, like, of course, your tongue, I'm gonna get touched by tongues, but when someone purposely licks your finger, someone did that to me a few months ago, and that was the creepiest. They just kept licking my finger. And Sarah Harding: Yeah. Mm. Yeah. Yeah. My kid does that all the time when I'm trying to brush his teeth and I'm like, You've got to stop. You've got to stop. Erin Sheffield: my gosh. And then there are people making inappropriate comments. And I'm like, you guys are gross. Like. Sarah Harding: Of course. Yeah. I mean it's hard to get away from that from with what we do. So I don't know. I don't know. Back when I was really snarky and I was on the boat, I would but was dy trying to design these little things to put on my state room door and one of them was like oral specialist. Anyway, I thought that was funny. Erin Sheffield: Huh. Dr. Walpack's had a video this week talking about oral surgery and how you abbreviate it. Did you see that one? And he said one of them was oral SX. And he says, People are always really disappointed when they come back from there. That's bad. Sarah Harding: Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Erin Sheffield: yeah, wasn't people Sarah Harding: Sorry about your luck. It's not all sunshine and rainbows and you know. Erin Sheffield: don't like coming to see us for some reason. Sarah Harding: Fine. That's fine. Yep. Erin Sheffield: Yeah. I also don't understand go ahead. I'm just gonna say I also don't understand how my body hurts so much. Sarah Harding: Why can't you no, your turn. That's because when you're in your forties, everything hurts. Erin Sheffield: I know. I literally was lying in bed once and I moved an inch and I pulled a muscle. And I am not joking or exaggerating this time. I tend to exaggerate a little, but it was like, my gosh, how did I do that? Sarah Harding: Yep. Welcome. Here we are. Erin Sheffield: Yep. Here we are. Sarah Harding: Well, I think I've got some company now. They have arrived. Erin Sheffield: Great. Should we end this then? Sarah Harding: Let's call it. Erin Sheffield: One two three g one, two, three, stop. Sarah Harding: All right. Well, thank you again for joining us on another episode of the Resting Stitch Face Podcast. We'll see you soon. Erin Sheffield: Thanks, bye. Sarah Harding: By