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91-Year-Old Hunter Reveals His Alien Abduction _ Joe Rogan _ David Paulides _aliens _bestofjre(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: And in that movie, there was a case of twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Twelve guys are planning trees on the side of a
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  Speaker 1: mountain in Washington State and there's a herd of elk
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  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the mountain and all of these
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  Speaker 1: guys see this classic UFO come up the mountain, hover
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  Speaker 1: over one elk. The herd scatters, but one elk doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It just stands there and then without anything between the
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  Speaker 1: UFO and the elk, it picks the elkup and it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: The guys all say, f this, I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 1: The whole group of planners leave and the manager for
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  Speaker 1: the company says, whoa guys hold on? What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: So they call moof on out mutual UFO network. They
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  Speaker 1: bring some investigators out and they interview these guys one
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  Speaker 1: by one and they all say the same thing, and
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  Speaker 1: they say, what we're afraid of is we're next. They
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  Speaker 1: just took that elk, but we're next. So that's in
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  Speaker 1: the movie. Keep that in your back your mind. There's
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  Speaker 1: a guy named Carl in Wyoming. He's hunting in the
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  Speaker 1: Medicine Bow National Forest alone see some elk one hundred
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  Speaker 1: yards away. Minds up with his rifle boom, and he says, David,
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  Speaker 1: it's like everything went into slow motion. I see the
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  Speaker 1: bullet come out the gun about three or four feet
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  Speaker 1: and it drops to the ground. Says, I walked over
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, they elk didn't move, and I pick
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  Speaker 1: it up the bullet. I put the bullet in my pocket.
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  Speaker 1: And then two alien type entities walk up to me
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  Speaker 1: and they engage them in mind speak. And what they
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  Speaker 1: do is they eventually take them on a craft and
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  Speaker 1: they take the Elk on the craft and it's like
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  Speaker 1: the Elk are frozen there in time. And they have
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  Speaker 1: him march behind a screen and they said, we don't
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  Speaker 1: want you going back mind of mine, and he goes,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on and he goes, you're going back. He says.
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  Speaker 1: The next thing I remember is falling ten to fifteen feet.
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  Speaker 1: He's guessing he hits his shoulder, probably displaces it, and
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  Speaker 1: he rolls down a hill. They're already searching for him
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  Speaker 1: because he's missing his wife, the sheriff, and they take
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  Speaker 1: him back and they take him to a hospital and
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  Speaker 1: they're taking X rays and he had tub tuberculosis scars
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  Speaker 1: as a kid. Those are no longer there and he
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  Speaker 1: had other medical issues that are completely cured. The investigators
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  Speaker 1: came out and they the Wyoming Department Law Enforcement looked
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  Speaker 1: at that bullet and did an exam on it, and
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  Speaker 1: they could not figure out what that bullet hit to
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  Speaker 1: make it deform in the manner that it did. I
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  Speaker 1: have pictures of it in the movie. It's very odd.
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  Speaker 2: See if you can find the pictures online.
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  Speaker 1: Of course you are if you go to two Be
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  Speaker 1: Be I Missing four one one The Hunted. The movie
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  Speaker 1: is there for free. You guys could watch.
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  Speaker 2: So check how Gearhead's Gone Wild. It's my friend's show.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So, no tuberculosis scars the bullet. So I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: to Carl and I said, well, why do you think
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  Speaker 1: they sent you back? He says, well, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: because I had a vasectomy. I said, oh, did they
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  Speaker 1: say anything to you about that? No? Okay, So he
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  Speaker 1: was ninety one years old when he interviewed him sharp
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  Speaker 1: as attack.
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  Speaker 2: How old was he when this encounter happened?
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  Speaker 1: I think he was thirty eight thirty nine? And uh again,
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  Speaker 1: this happened in the Medicine Bow National Forest. Where's that
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  Speaker 1: Medicine Bow is? Directly, I'd say about seventy five miles
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  Speaker 1: north west of Cheyenne. So at about the same time,
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  Speaker 1: the Air Force base in Cheyenne is having a group
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  Speaker 1: of cluster UFO sidings above the ICBM sites, and that
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  Speaker 1: was never made public at this time. It was thirty
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  Speaker 1: forty fifty years later, through Robert Hastings and other Air
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  Speaker 1: Force personnel came out that these documents started to show up.
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  Speaker 1: So Carl would have never known what was happening at
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  Speaker 1: the same time these things in Cheyenne were happening, and
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  Speaker 1: then you think about what's going on in Wyoming that
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  Speaker 1: would cause this. But really the epiphany to me with
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  Speaker 1: Carl is there's a lot of people in the woods
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  Speaker 1: that are found quote unquote they fell. They always fall alone,
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  Speaker 1: and they always fall in places where if you and
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  Speaker 1: I are in the woods, we're going to be pretty
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  Speaker 1: careful when we're alone. We're not going to be walking
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  Speaker 1: off a cliff. We're going to be careful. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of these people are found in a very unusual circumstances,
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  Speaker 1: dead at the bottom of an area that you just
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  Speaker 1: don't think makes sense, couldn't be tracked. So with Carl,
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  Speaker 1: when you think about him being taken a hunter hunting Elk.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody gets seen, nothing's heard. So I did a circumference
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  Speaker 1: around the area where he went, and it's in the
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  Speaker 1: movie there's a group of German hunters. Carl was German.
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  Speaker 1: German hunters that have disappeared. Nobody else but German that
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  Speaker 1: have disappeared in that area. And then when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the scope of what I've done in my work,
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  Speaker 1: I went backwards and I found there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: German people that have been abducted, more than the normal
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  Speaker 1: population of people. And these German hunters really were the
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  Speaker 1: opening valve to me that something odd was happening with
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  Speaker 1: German What do you think that is why German? I
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  Speaker 1: really wish I knew. That's probably outside my pay grade.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of rumors
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  Speaker 1: about the Germans having associations with Aliens.
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  Speaker 2: During the Nazi times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Well there's a lot of like weird occult
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  Speaker 3: stuff going on with the Nazis, right, and they were
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  Speaker 3: making like what looked like a UFO that were constructing
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  Speaker 3: these things that looked like flying saucers r. You know
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  Speaker 3: the Travis Walton case. Oh very well, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 3: his bibblehead he came in here. That's another guy that
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  Speaker 3: went missing in the woods, and it's a similar story.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he was taking aboard some sort of a craft.
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  Speaker 3: Multiple witnesses, including people who hated him, one guy who
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  Speaker 3: he actually got in a fistfight with earlier that day,
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  Speaker 3: and they all told the same story. They all passed
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  Speaker 3: polygraph tests. He shows up days later with this crazy
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  Speaker 3: story that he had been hit by a beam of light.
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  Speaker 3: They took him aboard this craft, fixed him, fixed whatever
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  Speaker 3: happened to him, and communicated with him, and then dropped
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  Speaker 3: him back off.
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  Speaker 1: I know Travis well. In fact, I was doing a
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  Speaker 1: conference in Phoenix and he brought his son to the
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  Speaker 1: conference because his son wanted to meet me because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of my work focused around things that happened at Travis.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Travis's case is probably not unique, and
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  Speaker 1: there's probably thousands of people out there. They just don't
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about it. They just want it to.
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  Speaker 3: Go away because it's too weird, and because you feel
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  Speaker 3: like a fool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that, and I think maybe they're afraid that they're
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  Speaker 1: going to get pigeonholed, as which you just said, odd.
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  Speaker 2: Strange, you're a crazy person. Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The Travis case is very interesting because I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is just I mean, I'm just saying this, but most
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  Speaker 3: people who lie, they lie about a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: They don't just have one crazy lie from the nineteen
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  Speaker 3: seventy that they keep repeating exactly the same way and
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  Speaker 3: have witnesses, you know, that's the whole thing is very strange. Also,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he went missing in the woods and
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  Speaker 3: then showed up multiple days later. There's nothing wrong with him.
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  Speaker 3: He's not dehydrated, he's not starving to death.
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  Speaker 2: He's fine.
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  Speaker 3: He's just weirded out, and he has this crazy story.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not like his story is unique either. That's
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  Speaker 3: what's very strange. The people that have been abducted, they
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  Speaker 3: all have very similar stories. They have similar stories about
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  Speaker 3: medical examinations, being taken aboard a craft, things, communicating with
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  Speaker 3: them telepathically.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's no like delusions of grandeur like you, you're
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  Speaker 3: the chosen one, You're unique, you're neo, You're the one
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  Speaker 3: we wanted, we came here for you. There's nothing kookie
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  Speaker 3: like that. It's all just they want to know what's
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  Speaker 3: going on with the human species, and they find a specimen,
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  Speaker 3: they do an examination and it sounds completely insane, but
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  Speaker 3: we do that. We do that with species, we do
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  Speaker 3: that with other things. We do that with primates, We
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  Speaker 3: do that with all kinds of different animals that we research.
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  Speaker 3: I mean people, there's probably someone doing it right now
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  Speaker 3: in the Congo, probably looking for some animals, you know, tranquiles,
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  Speaker 3: tranquilizing some animal, doing studies on it, releasing it back
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  Speaker 3: into the wild.
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  Speaker 2: We do it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things I say at conferences is
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  Speaker 1: what if we're the ant farm.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the bullet. So this is thank you, Jammy.
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  Speaker 3: This is the bullet that this guy shot and it
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  Speaker 3: hit something right in front of him and just completely deformed.
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  Speaker 3: That bullet looks like it hit a wall, like it
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  Speaker 3: hit like something like a giant plate to steal or something.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just completely flattened. That's not like a
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  Speaker 3: bullet that hits an animal. You know, bullets that hit
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  Speaker 3: well could hit bones and stuff and get distorted, but
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  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be intact like that. That looks like an
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  Speaker 3: intact bullet that just flattened out, hitting something completely immovable.
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  Speaker 2: Very weird.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that Carl said that they told
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  Speaker 1: him is when he got on that craft. Is he said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you have my elk? And they said yes, Carl, They
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  Speaker 1: said that we often come down to your earth and
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  Speaker 1: we take animals and we study them. And you happen
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  Speaker 1: to be one of the people that was right there
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  Speaker 1: when we were taking that, so we took you too.
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  Speaker 1: And I've heard this before from other abductees that, just
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  Speaker 1: like you said, we look at and test animals. Apparently
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  Speaker 1: they're monitoring the health of our planet by testing animals themselves.
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  Speaker 3: So he said they communicated with him telepathically. Yes, what
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  Speaker 3: did he say they.
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  Speaker 2: Talked to him about?
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  Speaker 1: So the elk?
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  Speaker 2: Why are they interested in elk?
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 2: And because they're cool.
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  Speaker 1: Elk are very cool, pretty cool, Yes they are. Now
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  Speaker 1: that's an interesting point because there are more hunters that
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  Speaker 1: are abducted or that disappear hunting elk than any other animal.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not that there's more hunters hunting elk. There's
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  Speaker 1: more hunters hunting deer on the whole in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: but for some reason, there's more hunters that disappear hunting elk.
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  Speaker 3: And I've said this in my books before well as
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  Speaker 3: a hunter. One thing that I would say is that
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  Speaker 3: when you're hunting elk, you're in the back country for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, you're in wild, remote areas with mountains.
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  Speaker 3: You're in a place with very few people. It's very
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  Speaker 3: hard to get to them. Whereas deer hunting, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of is done on farms, a lot of is done
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  Speaker 3: on flat land. You know, a lot of tree stand
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  Speaker 3: hunting deer, white tailed deer specifically in America North America
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  Speaker 3: are the most hunted animal. But if you've ever gone
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  Speaker 3: white tail hunting, a lot of it is in and
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  Speaker 3: around farmland, and you've never very rarely at least you're
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  Speaker 3: hunting white tail deer in the mountains, remote mountain ranges.
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  Speaker 3: Mule deer, you hunt mual deer remote mountain ranges, but
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  Speaker 3: white tail deer they tend to populate around humans and
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  Speaker 3: around agriculture, so that kind of makes sense. If they
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  Speaker 3: want to be stealthy, if they're trying to not be
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  Speaker 3: detected by as many people, you would you would probably
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  Speaker 3: also you probably if you're going to abduct someone and
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  Speaker 3: be reasonably sure that no one was going to see
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  Speaker 3: you do it, you would probably go where there's very
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  Speaker 3: few people and just some random guy who's decided to
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  Speaker 3: hike up to ten thousand feet and chase a herd
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  Speaker 3: of elk.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing I've heard from Carl is that he was
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  Speaker 1: told that these entities, whoever they are, have the ability
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  Speaker 1: to freeze time and space. And remember when I said
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  Speaker 1: the elk he was looking at, he said, he shot
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't move. It's like they were frozen, and
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  Speaker 1: they were frozen in that same position when he got
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  Speaker 1: on the craft, time and space being that everything around
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  Speaker 1: him nobody could walk in, nobody could walk out. It's
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  Speaker 1: like the time and space that he and the entity
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  Speaker 1: and the elk were in were frozen. It's a hard
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  Speaker 1: thing to grasp, but I've heard this before.
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  Speaker 2: It is a hard thing to grasp.
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  Speaker 3: But the people that speculate on how these advanced species,
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  Speaker 3: whatever they are, they're able to travel, that there's some
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  Speaker 3: sort of manipulation of space time that it's not as
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  Speaker 3: simple as like what we do.
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  Speaker 2: Which is very crude.
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  Speaker 3: We do propulsion, We burn things and push stuff out
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  Speaker 3: the back and it makes stuff go forward. Or we
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  Speaker 3: have an internal combustion engine that does the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: It makes explosions inside the engine, burns things pushes the
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  Speaker 3: pistons around, forces the transmission, and it moves. What these
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  Speaker 3: things supposedly do, and again this is all just crazy talk,
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  Speaker 3: But what they're able to do is manipulate space time
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  Speaker 3: itself and instantaneously travel