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Sports Leagues are in Trouble: Hidden Billionaire Money Trails, Propaganda & QB "Battles" · The Regulars

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  You know, Caitlin Clark's in the news, WNBA's in the
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  news, and it's never about the stats. Tanya, how you doing? Don't forget
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  quarterback stuff that's pissing us off. Never forget that.
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  We will be doing all of this and more in today's live episode.
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  We are The Regulars. Let's do this, Cody. Let's do it.
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  After just only one day away from our first ever
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  emergency podcast, of which, of course, Mocha was in the chat. Sorry, but we didn't—
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  honestly, we didn't want to bother you.
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  Mocha was like, why didn't you even let me
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  know? I'm sorry, that won't happen again, Mocha. You— and obviously
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  he was sorely missed as we fucked up to start the show, but I guess
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  that'll happen in an emergency podcast. And what do we have the emergency podcast for,
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  Tanya? The batshit insane news with
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  everything surrounding the Mark Walters sale of the Lakers within
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  one year. And of course, we're gonna get into the minutia of that. Also the
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  surrounding things in that, which I'm really, really,
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  really not at all concerned to talk about.
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  Um, and then of course we got a little bit of WNBA. You mentioned the
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  quarterback shit that always drives us nuts because of course quarterback shit is
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  always against Jalen fucking Hurts for some goddamn reason. Jalen Hurts
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  is a— is a— not— we just watched the first 5 minutes of the new
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  Green Lantern show that's coming out, and I'm like, I at this point
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  I'm prepared for Jalen Hurts to somehow be the villain of that show. That's,
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  that's what you would think based on how everything's going. Parallax Sinestro and
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  Jalen Hurts throwing interceptions in practice. Yeah,
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  nerds, get with the fucking program. Um, we also have
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  a lot going on in Media Corner, which also has some quarterback stuff on it
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  and whatever, so it's a pretty, uh, packed show. Yeah, we got a lot
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  to talk about. And yeah, Media Corner is a little fucking messy today because
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  I don't know what to say other than this industry that we are currently in
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  that we like to talk about and like to let you guys on the inside
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  a little bit about is a fucking mess. And honest to God, it is today.
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  If today didn't prove that it's in a bigger and worse state than
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  it's ever fucking been, I don't know what to tell you. This is a fucking
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  clown show. I can't wait to get into it. I mean, the, the amazing
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  part is that as bad as sports media is, the leagues are really
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  giving them a run for their money. So, yeah, I love that all aspects of
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  this job are falling apart. Very much so. Well, let's get right to it.
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  I'm Cody Decker. Tanya Ray Fox. Like, share, and subscribe wherever you
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  get your favorite podcasts. And of course, check us out over here on YouTube.
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  for the first time ever on Tanya's page. And of course, if you're watching us
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  on Instagram, welcome to the fucking shit show that is
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  the sports world. Let's get into it. Tanya Rae,
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  headline one. The Mark Walter
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  investigation, which we talked about last yesterday in our emergency
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  podcast, is continuing to be broken down in the media.
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  People are kind of taking a look at the timing of the $12.5 billion
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  sale, which, uh, truly can't be ignored, which is why we did not ignore it
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  yesterday. There's a couple things that, um, people have caught on to
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  today. Again, this is why we did our emergency podcast yesterday, because we were
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  on it. We were on it really quickly. But, um, there,
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  you know, a lot of people don't know what Mark Walter is
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  being investigated for. Mark Walter, the owner of the Dodgers,
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  also the former owner of the Lakers before he randomly sold it out of nowhere
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  to Josh Kushner and Bob Iger yesterday,
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  or hasn't sold it yet. It's supposed, supposed to be going through
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  at some point. But they're under investigation after
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  a search warrant was issued less than a month ago from the FBI
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  seizing mobile phone and computer belongings to Walter.
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  That was— so it happened last fall, but it came out last month.
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  The main company in question released a statement denying any wrongdoing.
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  That is I believe TWG, uh, Mark Walter
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  and TWG have always acted in good faith, blah blah blah. At issue are those
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  2 insurance companies, Delaware Life and Clear Spring, which according
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  to the Los Angeles Times, an internal whistleblower
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  at Guggenheim filed a complaint questioning how Guggenheim booked
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  revenues associated with those insurers. Now Guggenheim is the
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  managing company for the teams that we were just talking about. Again, it's not inherently
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  a problem when companies with a shared co-owner make a deal together, but it can
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  be a problem if and we are using one of the most extreme possible examples
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  here, a company does something like what Enron infamously
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  did and hides its financial woes from investors by unloading debts into
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  seemingly separate entities. Now, this is for you
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  and I not— would not be a shocking situation at all.
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  In this case, Bloomberg reports that Delaware Life told regulators in
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  June of 2025 that it only had $1.4 billion in
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  affiliated investments representing 3% of its portfolio.
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  And it turned out that number was more along the lines of $17 billion
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  in loans that had been passed through a third party before being received
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  by Walters' other companies. So then he goes and he,
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  he apparently approached investment firms, including Mets
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  owner Steve Cohen's Point72 Asset Management, about getting
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  some cash on hand. He wanted a range of deals to get
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  cash. That money would be used to help pay down those loans involving Walters Insurance.
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  So the reason that I wanted everybody to get
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  caught up on this is because, as you and I broached, and as the rest
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  of the media has caught on today, uh, there's a massive—
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  the largest contract in sports looming out there,
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  sort of hovering over all this questionable financials and how much Mark Walter
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  actually has that could be liquid. And it's Shohei Ohtani.
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  Yeah. Um, people are finally noticing that Shohei, uh,
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  can technically opt out of his Dodgers contract if Mark Walter sells
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  the team. Yes, he can. Now, Mark Walter has shown no indication that
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  he is going to sell the team. It's not being reported that he's going to
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  sell the team. But however, before Sunday, there was no indication or word at all.
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  And by the way, how often do $12.5 billion deals
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  get worked out in 3 days with literally no one saying a
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  word in any direction at any given moment? Well, I wouldn't say
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  it's very common. Okay. Just checking. It's the first one I've ever seen. But continue.
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  So there's this whole thing going on with Shohei, which we talked about,
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  which is like it's starting to feel like the money is not
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  there to pay Shohei in the short term
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  or potentially long term. The more that this guy's under investigation, which again could
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  disappear after all of this movement, and he did just profit $12.5
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  billion. So he could— he can go ahead and pay off Shohei now. He sure
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  could. And I do sort of wonder if on Shohei's
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  end there's going to be potentially like a desire to restructure out of some of
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  that deferred money. Which would put the Dodgers in a very interesting
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  choice, wouldn't it? I said it yesterday. I said it. Shohei,
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  you might want to go get your money. You've already been robbed by one
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  person that you trusted. Don't let it be 2. Listen,
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  he'd be— if they were just paying him,
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  right? Yeah. You tell me, because I can't remember if they just paid him the
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  annual value of his contract, if you restructured it so that he's getting the actual,
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  like, what he should be making every year instead of these, like, little miniatures
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  until the back end. Does that still go on the luxury
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  tax? Like, oh no, they are, they're already getting luxury taxed with the money.
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  So no matter what, it's in there. So it's not like they have to pay
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  more, but they know they're just gonna suddenly— their salary would be— their on-hand
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  cash salary, uh, for that year would go up like $70 million,
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  right? Up. So let's say for 2027, if there was baseball,
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  it would be a— he would be taking up a much larger— yeah.
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  Percentage of their salary. Yes. Payroll would
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  be— I mean, you would at that point start thinking about getting rid of players.
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  100%. Right. Okay. Even the Dodgers. Yeah. I mean,
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  yes. Well, that's the thing is, again, the Dodgers aren't—
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  and we said this when we were talking about this— aren't even the richest owners.
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  Like, I mean, he's going to Steve Cohen for money. Cohen has like—
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  just, just understand, like, he just made $12 billion the
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  other day. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Steve Cohen has double that just in
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  his checking account. Oh yeah, he has double that. Yeah, that he could just like
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  grab right now. He's probably looking at that sale going like, I can buy that
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  twice. Absolutely, 100%. So part of this also sort
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  of connected to more stuff that came out today is also connected
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  to what we talked about yesterday with Josh Kushner having a minority stake
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  in the Miami Heat. Yep. And it is reported that he will need to sell
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  that stake before the Lakers purchase goes through. Yes. Again, Um,
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  fucking sell it. What are we— oh my God. Like, so you already secured
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  this team, this sale, essentially. It just needs to be passed through the board of
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  governors. He still owns 5% of the Miami Heat. Um,
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  minority owners of NBA teams typically have very little impact on the day-to-day operations of
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  the teams. But, uh, it is reported that Kushner, um,
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  will be required to sell his share of the Heat to purchase the Lakers.
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  Obviously, we already knew that. Uh, he sold his
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  stake in the Grizzlies in 2024 to clear the way for the investment for the
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  Heat. So again, this is what we were talking about. I need you
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  to understand, in the last like 6 years, 6 to 7 years, we've been talking
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  about him buying minority ownership stakes in
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  the Grizzlies and the Heat. We're talking 5%, 10% minority
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  stakes in smaller market teams.
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  Today he has $12.5 billion to outright
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  buy the most expensive team in the NBA. Nobody has a few questions
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  about how he went from being a 5% minority owner of the Heat to owning
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  a $12.5 billion team? Well, it's funny you say that. I have questions. Oh,
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  I luckily have a couple of answers for you. Excellent. Because I've done some
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  Pablo Touring on my own because this is all facts of public record.
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  So as you know, he is the founder of Thrive. And now there are 2
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  parts of Thrive, one of which is like the hedge fund
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  or I'm sorry if I'm referring to it wrong. I can't tell the difference between
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  what a fucking hedge fund is and private equity is. It's just all fucking gambling
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  in real time. That's just what it is. Um, at the end of the
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  day, he runs Thrive, and there's 2 different portions of Thrive, one of which is
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  like an entertainment portion that is all a part, you know, of getting the sports
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  aspects. Well, here's the thing. The current assets, according, according to
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  what the more recent things that are being reported, is that they have about $25
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  billion in those assets. The 5-year growth has
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  been exponential with $15 billion. So like in 2021,
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  right after COVID, due to certain government subsidies, Um, they were
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  able to include their, uh, grow their business from $2 billion all the way
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  to 2025 to $25 billion, and estimated in some reports that they're worth $50
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  billion now. Um, how that happened, I don't know. But I do
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  know this, that on the same day that this sale was reported,
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  the Treasury Department went ahead and put out this issued, uh, statement. Um,
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  today the Fed has issued a final rule that permanently removes the
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  requirements of U.S. companies and U.S. persons to report beneficial ownership
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  information. FinCEN today also
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  announced that it will delete previously reported information by U.S.
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  persons from the beneficial ownership information database.
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  Now, those of you who are wondering what that means, that— wondering what that means,
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  that means that the U.S. government is now saying anyone that's a
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  part of a large business deal, dark money no longer needs
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  to be required to be reported or even tracked. This is a way this
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  law came into effect. To keep foreign entities from money laundering
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  and billionaires from money laundering. This is
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  allowing more or less basically money laundering. And,
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  um, a lot of that money laundering comes through, say,
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  Saudi Arabian interest allegedly, and how sportswashing has very
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  much become a thing. We'll say that there's a lot of money invested in Thrive,
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  just in— just let's throw that out there. Say a ton of money is invested
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  in Thrive from Saudi Arabia interests. So we'll never know
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  that. The government will never check it. And now we
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  won't even be told. Honestly, we don't even know who owns the
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  Lakers technically. It's kind of a dark, dark, dark thing.
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  That is. And it's only going to apply to like
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  corporations, right? Yes. Yes. And billionaires. So we can't
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  get our dark money. No, no, no, no. We don't get any of this.
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  This is— so we're going to— this is going— by the way, this ruling is
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  really big. Built— like, it's almost like a perfect time to sell
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  or buy a billion-dollar, multi-billion-dollar franchise. It's so weird.
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  That's so weird that that— I'm not saying it's— I'm not saying one is caused
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  by the other. It's just— I'm saying the timing to be a billionaire has never
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  been better. But again, Cody, we have to remember, just like everybody keeps telling us
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  on the internet, those, those moderates on the internet,
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  Josh Kushner doesn't have anything to do with the Trump administration.
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  You're right. Yeah, he doesn't have anything to do with that. Don't judge him by
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  his last name. Okay. Well, I won't—
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  I won't say anything and I'll just let you guys decide whether it's stupid to
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  say that or not. All right. We have an entire podcast
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  breaking all of this down in case you want more about this topic. We did
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  about 40 minutes yesterday. It is on the YouTube,
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  the full thing, and it is uploaded to both Spotify and Apple. So if you
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  want a longer segment on that, we have it. But that's just the latest from
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  today. Yes. Headline. Number 2, Cody. Dose.
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  Uh, the WNBA on Wednesday condemned
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  bad faith actors amid discussions of transgender athletes and online
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  hate after task force meeting. The WNBA spoke out
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  about the bad faith actors who've been dominating the discussion surrounding transgender athletes
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  and online hate after the meeting on Wednesday. Cathy Engelbert, the WNBA commissioner,
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  team presidents and general managers met Wednesday at previously scheduled meeting and
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  addressed both topics, among others. Today's meeting covered a wide
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  range of topics, including ongoing discussions on transgender athletes and the continued
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  hate and vitriol directed at players online. We will continue to engage all league
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  stakeholders in the coming weeks and months.
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  We will approach these important conversations thoughtfully in alignment with the values
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  of our league. There are no immediate eligibility matters affecting the
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  WNBA, and we strongly denounce the bad faith efforts to use these
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  topics to demean or marginalize others.
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  Before I move on, I do want to say that's a pretty full-throated
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  statement without naming 2 of the
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  more attention-baiting human beings alive right now. Yeah,
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  she point-blank says, yeah, we're not— we're not playing your fucking game.
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  So just FYI. Good. So I feel like that's pretty stern, all things
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  considered. Again, we— I don't ever respect sports commissioners.
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  I think they're mealy-mouthed and they kowtow to billionaires
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  and they're very, very difficult to get them to say anything meaningful on the record.
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  But This specifically was, was a fairly strong denouncement of at least the
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  conversation around everything. Um, a source told Yahoo
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  Sports Cassandra Negley that the meeting largely focused on the hate and vitriol being directed
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  at the players online. Yeah. Uh, just to note, there are no transgender
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  players in the WNBA or preparing to enter the WNBA. I liked that little phrase.
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  And there are no legitimate eligibility matters facing the league. The CBA also
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  states that only players who are women are eligible to play in the WNBA.
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  So there's some stuff to get around there. And now that it's
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  created a situation, you know,
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  the fearmongering around trans athletes in sports
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  is very specifically clearing track. It's trying to diminish
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  women in sports very much through the— through trans women,
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  through an absurd fearmongering that truly—
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  it's not just that it's nauseating. It's that it doesn't exist. It doesn't
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  exist. And then it's sort of taking someone, these people who are
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  already marginalized, scared, put out onto
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  the fringes of society, made to feel not safe in so many places,
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  in so many spaces, these people who are struggling to have their own equal
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  rights, civil rights, it's putting them in even more danger.
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  And now it is pinning them as a
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  political enemy oppositional to the group of people who they are
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  trying so desperately to be embraced by, which is women, cisgender women,
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  which like, that just breaks my heart. I think that's like the thing that really
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  bums me out so much. Just needless. It's just this thing.
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  I— it's really interesting how much the rhetoric has actually picked back
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  up as of late. That's the thing. There are real fucking awful,
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  disgusting, disturbing things happening in this country, in this world right
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  now. Yet somehow,
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  somehow they have turned this back over to trans athletes.
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  Name a professional trans athlete. Yeah, name one.
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  Um, I know of one, I think, in the world. And I know of— I
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  know about Julie Tatar, the basketball— that's the only one. And Monaco,
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  right? Only one in the world that I am aware of. At the Olympic
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  level, trans athletes— and I'm saying the Olympic level, not in the Olympics,
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  the Olympic level— trans athletes equate to 0.001%
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  of all athletes. And then at the collegiate level,
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  of that, there are no 10 known transgender athletes ever at the collegiate level.
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  That equates for the current— currently of 0.002%.
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  We're talking about 11 people on Earth, none of which are affecting
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  anything. This is so fucking
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  mind-numbingly insane. I don't know what to do with myself.
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  Well, I'll tell you, you know, um, I,
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  I saw a great video, um, and I, I'm gonna pull it
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  up while I'm talking about this because I want to make sure I give her
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  credit. Uh, she is a political figure, I believe, in Minnesota, but she did a
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  full breakdown of exactly what's going on with the trans panic and why it's specifically
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  being aimed at women's sports and what the goal is and,
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  um, just how successfully the right has propagandized, uh,
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  essentially like a bunch of otherwise well-meaning people to
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  start saying things like women are weaker
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  and less talented and not capable of competing and need to be protected against
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  men. And like people who were once maybe considered themselves
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  feminists were once unwilling to use that kind of rhetoric are now have
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  been propagandized. And that's what, you know, sometimes people think they can't be propagandized
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  because they're not sharing Facebook memes. That their grandfather sent them. But the reality is
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  it's, it's propaganda. And suddenly the right has you saying some stuff that's really
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  backwards. What do you mean women aren't equal
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  to men, right? So this, uh, woman posted a video where she talked
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  about the Heritage Foundation's— um, we— I've been talking about this since January when I
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  made a video about it. They are coming after Title IX, and though they are
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  coming at Title— after Title IX through the trans panic. Yes, they are.
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  By being able to say like, okay, well, obviously if you guys start,
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  won't— will not ban— they knew,
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  you know, banning trans athletes is essentially impossible because they don't exist. So they
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  will use that bad faith, uh, entrance into destroying
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  Title IX and say we have to get rid of Title IX because you guys
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  are abusing it. This is not what we meant by equality. Let's dismantle it.
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  Let's do exactly what we did with the Voting Rights Act and with Roe v.
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  Wade. And we're at— now the problem is there's a
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  problem right there on its own. On top of that, Title IX is just not—
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  is not just about equality in sports. It's also equality for women
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  and basically anti-discrimination across the board in education.
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  Yeah. So now by dismantling Title IX,
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  you're not just dismantling, dismantling the opportunity for equality in
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  sports and sports investment, but also in access to education and
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  equality in that space. And then when you do that, you open
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  the door further into legislating across
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  the board that we've just— we have decided clearly based on everything that men
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  are not that men— women are not equal to men.
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  This is the Heritage Foundation's stated goal. Yes.
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  I am not interpreting it. I am not saying
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  something that I feel like I'm put— no, their stated goal is to make sure
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  that women are focused on having children, staying in the home,
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  and that they are not focused on education, sports, anything else. They have said the
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  woman's body should not be used for athletics, blah blah blah. You know the drill.
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  Um, this was— I would like to point people to Erin May Quaid
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  She is across social media, mom, senator, and senior advisor at
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  Gender Justice. This is a— I believe she is in Minnesota.
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  And she— this video is incredible. And it does break down exactly what
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  their aim to do is and how well they have successfully turned this
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  entire conversation into a bunch of women saying, well,
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  we all— we do have to be protected from the men. Hold on.
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  Now, hold on. Right. Like, this is— I
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  would like to remind everybody, Cody, There are like
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  intra-gender sport— we've been doing co-ed sports in
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  both at the, like, at the youth level
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  and as adults for a long time. Uh-huh.
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  We've like been mind-fucked into talking about, oh,
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  like trans women playing it. There are co-ed sports leagues,
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  adults and children, across the country
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  with no issue. Sophie Cunningham fought really hard to
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  play on the boys' football team in high school. No issue.
• 21:00
  This whole thing has gotten everybody to dumb it down
• 21:04
  to the point where we are now on the precipice of them being able to
• 21:07
  fully swing open the door, in fact kick it down, to legislating
• 21:13
  anti-discrimination essentially completely out of education
• 21:17
  and then eventually out of our legal system.
• 21:20
  Listen, man, um, it's just whenever
• 21:24
  it happens, I always just ask, well, what are they distracting from?
• 21:28
  And it's so funny, I can point at the 19 different possible things,
• 21:32
  probably hundreds of possible things, honestly, that they're distracting from. I don't think it's a
• 21:35
  distraction though. I don't think it's— that's the thing is like, I don't think it's
• 21:37
  a game. But why the uptick right now? That's my question. Like, the uptick has
• 21:40
  really picked up in like last 2 weeks. Well, because once you get— so this
• 21:44
  happened with Riley Gaines and JK Rowling, right? So whenever
• 21:48
  you see the door open to push the issue, that's going to get you in,
• 21:52
  right? They're just— they're, they're always biding their time, slowly but surely planting the seed.
• 21:55
  They planted the seed enough. Now the seeds are sprouting.
• 21:58
  Sophie Cunningham has said the thing they needed her to say. Oh yeah, this incredibly
• 22:02
  famous— she's wearing the shirt, right? So boom, they've kicked
• 22:06
  the door open. Now we've got these former, uh, NBA players. This is how it
• 22:10
  works. You plant the seeds long enough and just wait for them to open the
• 22:14
  door. So it's not like, yes, it's distracting from other things,
• 22:17
  of course, but it's also not just like, oh, we'll just lean on this
• 22:21
  while we do war over here. It actually is part of their legitimate plan.
• 22:24
  No, completely agree. But I just noticed in the last couple of weeks, maybe it's
• 22:28
  because it's an election cycle. It's so funny. But it's not just that. It's also
• 22:30
  we've been seeing these things leading into the midterms, people trying to run and get
• 22:34
  in their primaries so they can go run in these upcoming midterms. It seems as
• 22:37
  though very clearly that every single Republican is going to
• 22:40
  run on the trans ticket. That is what they're going to run on.
• 22:44
  Culture war. They're going right back to fucking culture war. Yeah.
• 22:48
  For all— for the same reasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all for the same reasons.
• 22:51
  And, and like, distraction is really just like a fun
• 22:54
  little side note because this is really just furthering their goals
• 22:58
  along with what's going on on that front.
• 23:02
  Stephanie White, the coach of the Fever,
• 23:06
  got it. Did you see this press conference that she gave? It was pretty— yeah,
• 23:09
  it was pretty intense. Yeah, I called it. Feverish because
• 23:14
  I am making— great with, great with the puns. Uh,
• 23:17
  in her defense essentially of all the conversation around
• 23:21
  Dijonay Carrington's hard foul, um, and just she was like booed.
• 23:26
  Yeah, um, listen, I can't stress enough, everyone involved
• 23:30
  with this at this point is a fucking idiot and a bad faith actor.
• 23:34
  Continue. No, you're good. Uh, she said, we are united, we are connected,
• 23:37
  we will not be divided. Every day these women put their ass on the line.
• 23:41
  Every day when they go low, we go high. Way to
• 23:44
  fucking take Michelle Obama. Love will win.
• 23:48
  Grace will win. Humility will win and kindness will win. I stand
• 23:51
  by them. I will always stand by them. Everyone else can go to hell.
• 23:54
  White pounded her fist on a table multiple times during her
• 23:58
  remarks before leaving the room without taking questions from reporters.
• 24:02
  Now, this is the head coach of the Fever with both Sophie Cunningham and
• 24:07
  Caitlin Clark, as well as Kelsey Mitchell and Aaliyah Boston, who are the 2
• 24:10
  best players on the team, actually. Cunningham and White shared an
• 24:14
  embrace in the media room in between their news conferences. Clark, meanwhile, took issue with
• 24:18
  the fan reaction toward White before tip-off. It's tough, Clark said. Like,
• 24:22
  that's my coach. I hated that our fans booed her before the game. That made
• 24:25
  me a little sick, to be honest. That's our head coach and we're going to
• 24:27
  ride for her and we're going to always have her back. Okay, well,
• 24:32
  here's the thing. If you want to go down with the ship, Stephanie White,
• 24:35
  that's exactly what you're gonna fucking do. And Aaliyah Boston's on her way to
• 24:39
  going down with the ship too. She's getting on the mic and
• 24:42
  she's incredibly frustrated and very defensive of Stephanie White.
• 24:46
  Um, Kelsey Mitchell's been put in the position to— what is she supposed to do,
• 24:49
  not defend her head coach? I give Kelsey Mitchell a little bit more credit
• 24:53
  because Aaliyah Boston's out there on her podcast talking shit with Candace Parker all the
• 24:56
  time anyway. So like You know, I— if she wants to,
• 24:59
  she's going to say what she's going to say anyway. Um, but both these women
• 25:02
  are the, like, actual, like, part of the engine of the team along with Caitlin
• 25:06
  Clark. Sophie Cunningham's a fucking sideshow. But this has come down
• 25:09
  to now Stephanie White being so genuinely—
• 25:13
  remember, same head coach who acted like Alyssa Thomas
• 25:18
  had done something incredibly horrifying. Yeah, right.
• 25:22
  Same head coach This— she very clearly has an agenda to protect Sophie
• 25:26
  and Caitlin from the kind of criticisms that she's getting, and that is
• 25:30
  getting her booed at her own home games. This has
• 25:34
  now become a situation where everything that
• 25:38
  comes in contact with Caitlin Clark becomes
• 25:41
  cancerous. And Caitlin Clark is like,
• 25:46
  just like, it's wild because she doesn't even have to say Sophie Cunningham
• 25:50
  just took the ball and ran with it. And now the entire thing is a
• 25:53
  fucking mess. And Stephanie White is about to controversy her way out
• 25:57
  of a goddamn job. Like, this is insane. And I don't— like, I don't know
• 26:01
  what to say. Like, I genuinely don't know what to say other than to be
• 26:04
  this aggrieved by, like, this reaction
• 26:08
  rather than trying to understand it. In a— this
• 26:14
  league is— this league is Black women. These fans are Black women. These fans are
• 26:17
  queer women. Like, you're not going to win this. You might win it. The culture
• 26:22
  war in the conservative space. Maybe they'll have you on the new podcasts, all the
• 26:25
  MAGA podcasts that ESPN is doing. Don't worry, there's a lot of them. There's a
• 26:28
  lot of them. We'll get to it. Oh, we'll fucking get to it. Fuck.
• 26:31
  They're flailing like dead fish over there in Indiana. They're flailing
• 26:36
  like, congrats on the fucking paychecks, but this league's not for you.
• 26:40
  Stephanie White's unraveling and she's going to take Aaliyah Boston
• 26:44
  with her. I thought the— I thought the quotes were I—
• 26:48
  what the fuck are you talking about? If you're gonna listen, I'm, I'm actually very
• 26:51
  okay with you actually sitting here and facing this head on, but you didn't.
• 26:54
  You gave a statement and you didn't really say anything. We will overcome,
• 26:57
  we will persevere, we go low, we go high. The fuck are you
• 27:01
  gonna be saying? So she's gonna use Michelle Obama language. What the fuck are you
• 27:04
  even saying to talk about how Dijonay Carrington fucked her over? Uh,
• 27:08
  I'm sorry, dude, I got, I got nothing for you. Like, you— if you want
• 27:12
  to deal with this head on, you deal with it head on. And that is
• 27:14
  simply sit there, answer, ask, give your statement and answer fucking questions because
• 27:19
  the questions are not going to be fun. Sorry, that's the job you got.
• 27:22
  Why is it that Sophie Cunningham, according to Stephanie White and all these people,
• 27:25
  is the only one that's allowed to get out there and talk their shit
• 27:29
  publicly? Dijonay said what she said. You guess what happened?
• 27:32
  A bunch of the league ended up on Dijonay Carrington's side and
• 27:35
  you got booed. Hey, free speech, baby.
• 27:38
  Fucking take it if you want to stop the— if you want the heat to
• 27:42
  stop coming back on you. Maybe the players that you defend who love you so
• 27:44
  much, who keep hugging you and everything else, should stop putting you in the position
• 27:48
  of having to defend the indefensible stuff. Otherwise, I don't fucking feel bad
• 27:52
  for you. I feel bad for Kelsey Mitchell at this point. That's about it on
• 27:55
  that team. Everybody else, I mean, people who aren't running their mouths,
• 27:59
  but man, they're digging themselves deeper and deeper. And like, I don't
• 28:03
  care. I want to watch basketball. I enjoyed watching Dijonae Carrington kiss,
• 28:06
  kiss Natisha Heideman on the head the other day. That was fun. I enjoy
• 28:10
  watching the videos of, of these players like actually genuinely
• 28:14
  enjoying themselves in the league. And you guys are a fucking blight at this point.
• 28:17
  Yep. By the way, we'd love to talk about
• 28:21
  how good at basketball you guys are, but you're not letting us. That's the actual
• 28:25
  thing that I really want to focus on, which we did. We discussed— we discussed—
• 28:27
  people really, by the way, agreed with us in large part about Bill Simmons just
• 28:31
  sort of ignoring the elephant in the room of like, what do you mean?
• 28:33
  Like, are you talking about Olivia Miles? No, he's not.
• 28:37
  And I want to make this abundantly clear. We don't entirely
• 28:40
  disagree with Bill's assessment. We do think if you want to talk about
• 28:44
  it, to be like, how come meanwhile you own the most
• 28:48
  successful sports podcast network in the country? Like, we are like, we would like
• 28:52
  to talk about the good basketball and we occasionally get the opportunity
• 28:56
  to do so. Yeah, but unfortunately there's a lot of bad faith actors
• 29:00
  around this industry and also a lot of bad faith actors that we're learning
• 29:03
  that are actually in the fucking league right now. So do
• 29:08
  you recall ever getting a little beso on the head from a,
• 29:11
  from a league mate or a teammate? A little what? A kiss.
• 29:15
  You know, like, did you ever, did you ever get a loving kiss from a
• 29:18
  teammate? Loving kiss from a teammate? Yeah. I feel like it would really improve baseball
• 29:23
  if y'all were kissing more. I mean, I have no doubt some of them are.
• 29:26
  I want to make that a point. Well, I mean, on camera. Oh, okay.
• 29:28
  So sorry. That's a different thing. No, no, no. I know the boys are kissing.
• 29:30
  Let's be real clear. Been in a lot of clubhouses. I've seen a lot.
• 29:33
  I haven't seen it, but there's been some kissing going on. Oh, you've seen some
• 29:36
  stuff in clubhouses though that's— that is more than just— oh yeah, there's some stuff
• 29:39
  that's like, guys, I think you just need to take it into the
• 29:43
  showers. Like, it's okay. Oh yes. Oh, I'll give you those stories.
• 29:47
  I'm more than happy. Because like, I— but I really— I
• 29:50
  was thinking about it. I'm like, man, if, if we could just— like, if after
• 29:53
  the game Travis Kelce went up to Patrick Mahomes and just kissed
• 29:57
  him on the forehead That would do more for me than any
• 30:02
  single shot he's had with Taylor Swift in a long time. That's not wrong.
• 30:04
  I would love— I don't think I've ever gotten a kiss from a teammate,
• 30:07
  and now I'm upset that I didn't. I'll do it. Thank you.
• 30:10
  Good teammate. I'm your only teammate. Good teammate. All right, we have—
• 30:15
  we're going over NFL. We're going over to like— this is the kind of— we're
• 30:19
  doing it, baby. Dual story of the day. This, along with something we're going to
• 30:22
  hit on in Media Corner, is kind of the biggest, like, goofy story of the
• 30:25
  day, although it's not that goofy. You showed me this last night,
• 30:28
  um, and then you were like, okay, we'll probably end up talking about this.
• 30:31
  And we are because everybody else is also talking about it. Everyone is freaking
• 30:35
  out about the fact that Eagles shared a Jalen
• 30:39
  Hurts practice interception. Uh, the post from the official Eagles account showed a
• 30:43
  nice play on the ball by Quinyon Mitchell, but what everybody else saw was the
• 30:46
  continued undermining of the franchise quarterback whose seat is growing hotter and hotter.
• 30:50
  Exactly what you saw. Um, it was so like The, the video
• 30:54
  was shot to show Jalen Hurts in such a light that
• 30:57
  like you had to point out to me what was happening because I was like,
• 31:01
  okay, I didn't notice the jersey being white. I didn't. I was like, okay,
• 31:04
  what are you showing me? That's how confusing this video was because
• 31:08
  of the way it was shot. So I'm going to show— we're going to show
• 31:10
  you the video. Mocha, click that and we'll show you what we're talking about.
• 31:17
  Yeah. Put it in slow motion.
• 31:28
  Fascinating. What a catch! What an interception! I wish
• 31:31
  they put it to like, to like R. Kelly's I Believe I Can Fly.
• 31:34
  So they kind of did. So they put like, um, like emotional music over
• 31:38
  it, and then it was in the slow-mo. And it's— this is the thing,
• 31:41
  there were a few people trying to sort of say, I don't know why everybody's
• 31:46
  freaking out so much about this. And I was like, Because number one, I have
• 31:50
  very rarely ever seen a social
• 31:54
  media team or a team tweet out a— their franchise quarterback's
• 31:58
  interception. But if they are going to, you don't
• 32:03
  foreground the star quarterback and
• 32:07
  make that like them the center of the video. You take a different angle
• 32:11
  and essentially you never show Jalen Hurts. And if you want to highlight Quinyon Mitchell
• 32:15
  making a great, you know, pick, then you do that. I'm not saying that he
• 32:19
  doesn't deserve to get a camp highlight, but like, this is,
• 32:23
  this is a quarterback along with Lamar Jackson, who is— and
• 32:26
  maybe Shedeur Sanders, who has been— had more shit talked
• 32:30
  about them in the last 2 years than anybody in the league.
• 32:34
  They know that is a very odd choice. And the people being like,
• 32:38
  I don't know, you know what? No, you can highlight Quinyon Mitchell without
• 32:42
  doing that. Like, If you don't have the video that doesn't fucking center Jalen Hurts
• 32:46
  throwing a pick, you don't post that video. Don't— absolutely do not
• 32:50
  gaslight me into thinking— then it said right on cue. Yes, it did.
• 32:53
  Right on cue. That's a cornerback.
• 32:57
  He wasn't supposed to throw it there, guys. Like, come on. What the fuck are
• 33:00
  we doing? Guys, I don't know what to tell you other than the fact that
• 33:03
  anyone's like, what are you guys freaking out? We're not freaking out. We're just—
• 33:08
  how fucking stupid do you think everyone is? Like all
• 33:12
  your anonymous sources this offseason and the hit pieces on Jalen fucking Hurts
• 33:16
  in the last year of his guaranteed money in his contract. Like, this is like
• 33:20
  so fucking blatant. Like, it's fucking insulting.
• 33:24
  Eagle fans should be fucking just insulted. It's embarrassing.
• 33:28
  Even if it's not a— like, let's, let's say whoever posted the video,
• 33:33
  there was not this like, I've been told to make Jalen look
• 33:37
  stupid. I don't necessarily think that. I think it's actually way worse
• 33:40
  than that, which is that there is such an institutional lack
• 33:45
  of genuine regard and respect for the franchise
• 33:49
  quarterback that this stuff doesn't even occur to the idiots running the social
• 33:53
  media account. Now, I want you to think about the level of respect
• 33:57
  and regard that's held for Josh Allen. Oh, baby. For— he's
• 34:01
  perfect. You know, I like, I think, I think about
• 34:04
  like the idea of anyone ever posting that about Tom
• 34:08
  Brady. And I knew every single one of those social media people, they wouldn't have
• 34:11
  dared. And by the way, Belichick would have loved it. He would have been like,
• 34:14
  hell yeah, really? Like, make him look stupid on the internet. He'll— it'll fire him
• 34:17
  up. They never would have done it. Um, they would never have done this
• 34:21
  to Aaron Rodgers or any of these dudes. You don't see this stuff from about
• 34:25
  like, you know, any of these other quarterbacks. I can't even imagine them doing that
• 34:29
  to Dak. Like a Cowboy, like never. They would never do that. It's fucking
• 34:33
  weird. So don't tell— no, I know. I was here
• 34:37
  when all this started. I was here when social media started
• 34:40
  for these teams. Like, I literally am that old. Cody's that old. We remember
• 34:45
  before Twitter, before teams had social media. This shit does
• 34:48
  not happen. That man is a highly
• 34:51
  paid franchise quarterback with a Super Bowl MVP, and they're like, Would you
• 34:56
  like— by the way, can we just say this, Cody? Yes. Not even that great
• 34:59
  of a pick. No, not really all that crazy. It was like kind of shallow
• 35:02
  and funky and like it seemed like the wide receivers were a little off.
• 35:05
  Like, I thought it was fine. I thought it was fine. I just— it just—
• 35:09
  if it wasn't like a one— like, I— if this had been like a holy
• 35:13
  shit play, like part of me would be like, ah man, Jalen, they got you
• 35:16
  on that one because Quinyon made an absolutely gorgeous play. This was sort of an
• 35:19
  ugly down-low pick. I didn't love it. There was nothing about it. But I did
• 35:23
  notice that Jalen Hurts was the centerpiece of the entire show. Like he was.
• 35:26
  He had everything around center frame blurred,
• 35:29
  just perfect. Like, they had him in fucking portrait mode. Yeah,
• 35:32
  they made sure Jalen was heavily— you could see the fucking
• 35:36
  whites in his eyes. Like, it was clear as day who
• 35:40
  this man is. It was such a fucking, like, joke too, because you're like,
• 35:43
  oh, this is gonna be cool, a nice little pass, little, little touch, you know,
• 35:47
  a little, uh, completion in camp. And then Quinyon Mitchell comes in, you're like,
• 35:50
  no, no, no, they're not, they're not doing this for a Jalen Hurts pick,
• 35:54
  right? They're not— oh no, oh no, they are. Oh, they definitely
• 35:58
  are. Oh, they are. It was fucking weird. It was so fucking weird. The disrespect
• 36:02
  towards that guy is unbelievable. Let's, um— but we do have a couple of quarterback
• 36:05
  headlines also to throw on top of it. Nothing crazy, but I mean, congratulations to
• 36:09
  you and me. We tried to tell everybody. They said we were crazy. They said
• 36:12
  we were crazy, but we always knew. Not only were we right about Kyler Murray
• 36:16
  absolutely becoming the starting quarterback in Minnesota.
• 36:20
  But it was announced before they— they prematurely were like, you know what,
• 36:24
  never mind on J.J. McCarthy. We're not going to continue this charade. It's definitely Kyler
• 36:27
  Murray. Thank you all for coming. And we told everybody that.
• 36:32
  Yep. We, by the way, this wasn't a question a couple of weeks ago.
• 36:34
  We said it, but we also said it months ago. Yes. We weren't quiet about
• 36:37
  this from the moment they got Kyler Murray. We were like, oh, it's over.
• 36:40
  Yeah. Oh, CJ. Yeah. Good run. Yeah. So there's—
• 36:45
  there's that. We knew that was coming. I thought it— I think it's really,
• 36:48
  really smart and a great sign for the Vikings and for
• 36:51
  Kevin O'Connell, who I again really respect, that he was able to just
• 36:55
  say, you know what, I'm not going to play this game. I know who my
• 36:58
  quarterback is and I want him to get as many of the first-team reps throughout
• 37:01
  the rest of training camp, uh, preseason as possible. That's very smart
• 37:05
  to do. Don't play the game. And that's, uh, that's kudos
• 37:09
  to the ownership as well and to the people in the front office who are
• 37:12
  not going to make him do the charade of like protect the look of our—
• 37:15
  it's all completely correct. They already look like idiots for letting Sam Darnold
• 37:19
  go to start JJ. They're not going to make this. And you know what?
• 37:21
  Know when you've made a mistake and you have to just call it. And they're
• 37:24
  doing that. So props to KOC, to Ziggy. Well, like all of everybody, just get
• 37:28
  right to it. Let's get— let's get to work. Like one team that's not doing
• 37:31
  that at all, and I'm— this is gonna shock you, and I
• 37:35
  don't even— I'm not even gonna make you guess because it's so hard, so I'm
• 37:39
  just gonna tell you. Cody, it's the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns have a quarterback
• 37:41
  issue? No way. Yeah, yeah, it is. Yeah, can you believe it? Um, so head
• 37:45
  coach Todd Monken announced, uh, Deshaun Watson will start their preseason opener against the
• 37:48
  Bears, and then Shedeur Sanders is slated to start week 2 as the position
• 37:53
  battle rolls on. This is a true position battle. They are truly selling
• 37:56
  it. They're committed to the bit. Unlike the Vikings, they are fucking morons who can't
• 37:59
  figure this shit out. And when I, when I tell people the difference between,
• 38:02
  um, legitimately functional organizations, this is a very clear highlighting, uh, thing because
• 38:06
  What I will say, Todd Monken, if he had
• 38:09
  his— if he had his pick, would probably have neither of these people
• 38:13
  as his quarterback, to be quite honest. But they did
• 38:17
  want Shedeur Sanders to back up Lamar Jackson in
• 38:21
  Baltimore. So I know for a fact that he would have been fine
• 38:24
  coaching Shedeur Sanders before he was even in Cleveland.
• 38:29
  Uh, Shedeur declined when they said like, hey, would you want to come, you know,
• 38:32
  whatever? He said, I still want to see if I can go somewhere to start.
• 38:34
  So they skipped him in the draft. Um, under— understandable.
• 38:38
  Like, at the time, he unders— he had every reason to believe he could,
• 38:41
  uh, land with a team where he had a chance to start. And he knew
• 38:44
  the Lamar Jackson of it all was kind of a deal-sealer
• 38:48
  on his ability to be a franchise quarterback there.
• 38:51
  Kudos to him. He knew what was up, whatever. Ends up going in the 5th
• 38:54
  round. But Todd Monken was, um, absolutely already on board with coaching somebody
• 38:58
  like Shador and saw him as a viable option to back up
• 39:02
  Lamar. Whereas Deshaun Watson has
• 39:06
  been literally like, take everything about
• 39:09
  the fact that he's a horrible predator off the table.
• 39:12
  He's been awful at football. Can't wait to
• 39:17
  see it for years. Yeah, I can't wait to see it for you. As I
• 39:21
  don't care if you think everything about what Shedeur Sanders did on that awful,
• 39:25
  horrific offense with a lame duck coach last year, if you take
• 39:28
  everything away from him, if you just start clean slate as if he's fucking nobody.
• 39:32
  He's better than Deshaun Watson. And by the way, he's not nobody. There's a
• 39:36
  ton there that's worth caring about and developing. But like,
• 39:41
  Cody, when was the last time— what was it like? When was the last
• 39:44
  time Deshaun Watson did anything? Well, that was 2 Achilles
• 39:48
  surgeries ago and dozens of accusations ago.
• 39:53
  I don't know. I don't remember. I don't even remember the last time he was
• 39:55
  good here. There was a time where he was good over there in Houston.
• 39:58
  But yeah, man, that was like a fucking decade ago. This is like a clown
• 40:02
  show. They will not let it go. They will not.
• 40:05
  Good. Fucking cut your losses. You paid him the $230
• 40:09
  million. It was really fucking dumb. Pay him his
• 40:13
  money and get him out of our fucking lives. Like,
• 40:16
  stop doing this. I would love that to happen. It's just never gonna fucking happen.
• 40:20
  They're gonna— these guys are— it's never fucking going to be the
• 40:24
  fucking second and third string quarterback on that team until we die. At this point.
• 40:27
  He was a Pro Bowler last year, by the way. I didn't agree with it,
• 40:29
  but he was a Pro Bowler. Shador. Shador. Yeah, yeah. Oh, because everybody else—
• 40:33
  like, it's, it's because I, I know the reasons, but it's still funny to me.
• 40:36
  It's very funny. It's just fucking funny. How are you not starting Deshaun Watson over
• 40:39
  Pro Bowler Shador Sanders? Fucking Pro Bowler, dude. What the fuck? Got more Pro
• 40:44
  Bowls than Deshaun in the last couple years for sure. That's what I'm talking about.
• 40:47
  I'm just saying. Um, so yeah, those are— I thought that that was an interesting,
• 40:50
  uh, juxtaposition of like 2 quarterback battles,
• 40:54
  one where they were like, you know what, we gave you enough of the joke.
• 40:57
  Of course we're not starting J.J. McCarthy. And then one where they're like, no,
• 41:00
  totally, Deshaun Watson could totally work for us still. Fuck off. Well, Tanya, let's get
• 41:04
  over to Media Corner because we're staying with the quarterback subject. And I'm glad we're
• 41:07
  starting here because a little palate cleanser to get to our
• 41:11
  fucking rage. So Jayden Daniels having
• 41:15
  a very normal day, huh? Jayden Daniels being a real weirdo,
• 41:19
  dude. What the fuck is this? All right, let's tell everybody what the fuck is
• 41:22
  wrong with Jayden Daniels. So Jayden Daniels, the current
• 41:25
  Washington Commanders quarterback, an absolutely stud
• 41:29
  rookie season, had a little bit of a down year last year, but a really
• 41:32
  promising quarterback in the same class with Drake.
• 41:36
  Is he— he's the same class as Drake and Caleb
• 41:40
  Williams. So in a statement to ESPN attributed to Daniels' family
• 41:44
  spokesperson, the quarterback's family said it was deeply disappointed and feels profoundly
• 41:48
  disrespected by LSU's decision to give Jayden's number to another
• 41:52
  player. The statement said the family thought his number would be honored
• 41:56
  and protected in recognition of his extraordinary contributions to the university.
• 41:59
  And so they sent a cease and desist letter to LSU over
• 42:03
  NIL rights. The number was given— his number
• 42:07
  5 was given to cornerback DJ Pickett this offseason. So not
• 42:11
  a quarterback, a cornerback. First-year LSU head
• 42:14
  coach Lane Kiffin told reporters this month that Pickett was promised number 5 during the
• 42:18
  recruiting process. When Brian Kelly was, uh, the Tigers coach. So he— I
• 42:23
  love Lane throwing Brian Kelly right out of there. I love that. It's actually like—
• 42:26
  I don't like Lane Kiffin, but that's funny. I don't like either of them,
• 42:28
  but like, so like, you know, uh, 2 dumb bitches, right? Yeah, I hope
• 42:31
  they eat each other. Pickett was a 5-star prospect and one of the nation's
• 42:35
  top defensive backs. And, uh, Pickett's father Damian confirmed the
• 42:39
  story Thursday morning. Joe Burrow, who won the Heisman Trophy for LSU after
• 42:43
  the 2019 season, has also not had his jersey retired by the school,
• 42:46
  although no player has worn it since Burrow and the Tigers finished undefeated
• 42:51
  and won a national championship, added Thursday. If Daniels deserves to have his number 5
• 42:55
  retired, Kelly responded, absolutely. And Joe too,
• 42:58
  as well as players like Glenn Dorsey and a few others.
• 43:01
  LSU bylaws are preventing deserving players. So 2
• 43:07
  things you need to know about Jayden Daniels. Yes, it's not the first time he's
• 43:09
  had some controversy around his college associations. And this is not the
• 43:13
  first time that they've done something a little bit like kind of a little
• 43:16
  wonky. He has a very outspoken
• 43:20
  and sometimes problematically so mom who's very proactive
• 43:24
  in his public life. Very much so. I'm not here to shit on anybody's mom
• 43:28
  and I'll never do it. Like, she's not committing a crime. She's being a boy
• 43:31
  mom. And sometimes they can be insufferable, but more like a middle school
• 43:35
  mom who's insufferable. Well, I mean, more like a dance
• 43:39
  mom. Have you met a stage mom? Yeah. Stage mom. Same shit.
• 43:42
  So we're getting a little bit of that mixed in.
• 43:46
  And I will say this before I get into how social media is reacting.
• 43:50
  I don't think that in any way, shape, or form, like, focus on
• 43:54
  getting your big contract in the NFL, focus on your NFL
• 43:58
  season. I am— I will say your number
• 44:02
  going to a cornerback before Joe Burrow's number goes to anybody.
• 44:06
  Okay, I'm raising an eyebrow. Fucking send it to the group chat,
• 44:09
  bro. Bitch and moan about it. This does not need to be a public thing,
• 44:12
  and it doesn't need to be an NIL thing. His exit from Arizona
• 44:16
  State was also like really weird. Yes, it was. The like his
• 44:20
  teammates like packing his shit up out of the locker room and stuff.
• 44:23
  He clearly has a little bit of a problem,
• 44:26
  you know, always getting along in these spaces.
• 44:31
  I think that some of the critiques are something I want to hear your opinion
• 44:34
  on. Um, well, I don't have an issue with this number
• 44:38
  being given out at all. No. Um, like, one,
• 44:43
  your number's not retired. Quick act— honestly, just quit acting like a
• 44:47
  little bitch. Like, this is fucking bitch behavior, period.
• 44:50
  Stop. Every— everyone would think this. This is embarrassing.
• 44:54
  Um, that being said, like, I don't—
• 44:57
  the, the Burrow over Jayden Daniels thing, I think, is like—
• 45:01
  it's— I think it's an angle that people are trying to really kind of focus
• 45:04
  on, and I'm not really on that one on this one. I mean, Burrow did
• 45:07
  win a Heisman and win a national championship. So numbers-wise,
• 45:11
  I guess it technically would put him over Jayden Daniels a little. But like,
• 45:15
  honestly, who gives a shit? You're in the NFL. Close your fucking yearbook.
• 45:19
  Like, is this— they hurt your feelings because they gave your number?
• 45:23
  That is real bitch behavior. I officially am taking the under
• 45:26
  on the Commanders, by the way. So, I mean, it's not a great sign,
• 45:29
  although I will say of all the quarterbacks who can pull this off, Jayden Daniels
• 45:33
  he's kind of like this guy. Like, he'll be like doing all this shit
• 45:37
  and then he'll lock in with his like fucking, you know, play-generating goggles. And no,
• 45:41
  it's weird. I'm telling you, it's weird. But what I will say is, um,
• 45:45
  you know, a few, a few people from the media— I'm gonna read you a
• 45:49
  couple of their responses because there's something that's happening on in some of the discourse
• 45:52
  that I don't like. And I think you and I are gonna agree because you
• 45:55
  just alluded to it. That's it. So, uh, we got Danny Canal and Jordan Moore
• 45:58
  saying essentially like, this is Like, this is— he's getting horrible advice.
• 46:01
  It's bad optics, egotistical kind of brat move. Uh, between this,
• 46:05
  uh, how weird he is, um, was he on quarterback
• 46:09
  and how he comes across, now we're starting to get into his personality.
• 46:12
  I'm a little funky with that, but like, you know, if you think he's a
• 46:17
  weird guy, it's okay, but let's be a little careful. Okay, fine.
• 46:20
  Uh, early returns have the most public perception against Jayden Daniels,
• 46:23
  uh, being that Louisiana is turning against
• 46:27
  him. I hope JD and his team feel this whole thing is truly worth it
• 46:30
  because losing the favor of Louisiana is a major fumble. Okay,
• 46:34
  I'll like— sure, if that's what's happening in Louisiana, I'll take your word for it.
• 46:37
  Don't care what RG3 said. Here's where
• 46:41
  things get a little funky. Let's hear it. Will Compton,
• 46:45
  who we'll be talking about in the next segment, said, how many big
• 46:49
  games did he win at LSU? Oh, shut the fuck up. Uh,
• 46:52
  Brett Bud Elliott said Joe Burrow led a team to a ring
• 46:56
  and was one of the most historic seasons ever. Daniels is such a
• 47:00
  whiner. Get over yourself. So here's what I'm going to fucking say.
• 47:04
  This, this shit where we can't critique the thing and
• 47:08
  decide we're going to retroactively rewrite his college career
• 47:12
  to mock him. Yep. Is it sort of ends up
• 47:16
  circling back around to making me understand his point.
• 47:21
  You, you guys, I was perfectly willing to say, Jaden, shut the
• 47:25
  fuck up, you're being weird. Yeah, this is weird behavior. You're distracting yourself. I'm perfectly
• 47:29
  willing to say that because I've— this is not the first time I've seen Jaden
• 47:31
  kind of act like a little bit of a brat. Couldn't agree more. And by
• 47:35
  brat, I just mean like, just shut up. Like, I don't think he's like uniquely
• 47:38
  entitled, I'm just saying. But like, the— we're not
• 47:42
  gonna clown a Heisman winner for not winning a natty in, in the whole Discord.
• 47:46
  So Leave this out of it because, by the way, was it—
• 47:49
  I'm sorry, was it— was it Jayden Daniels who had Justin Jefferson
• 47:54
  and Ja'Marr Chase as his fucking wide receivers and Patrick Queen on his defense?
• 47:57
  Or was that Joe Burrow? If Joe Burrow didn't win a national championship
• 48:02
  with that fucking team, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, everybody, then okay,
• 48:05
  so now we're going to go Heisman for Heisman to prove his
• 48:09
  point that Joe Burrow is not being treated better. By the way, Just,
• 48:13
  just so we're really clear about where everything lied.
• 48:16
  Yeah. Joe Burrow again had better passing numbers
• 48:20
  because he had 2 of the best wide receivers in the
• 48:23
  fucking country in the history of college and now in
• 48:27
  the NFL. These are arguably Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr
• 48:31
  Chase right now are the 2 best receivers in the NFL. And they were his
• 48:34
  2 starting wide receivers on his national team. That is not— listen,
• 48:38
  Jayden Daniels had Malik Nabers and like Who the— who
• 48:41
  was it? Brian Taylor, James, whoever it was, some other dude who's like,
• 48:44
  fine, let's draft in the first round. Not those 2.
• 48:48
  What I want to know is like,
• 48:51
  if we're gonna clown— if we're gonna go back and
• 48:54
  start clowning him for not having a Joe Burrow type season,
• 48:58
  even though he does have the FBS football,
• 49:03
  uh, record for passer efficiency. In the
• 49:07
  history of FBS, he has the passer efficiency record.
• 49:12
  He had way more rushing yards. He was a mobile dual-threat quarterback
• 49:17
  in a way that Joe Burrow wasn't. This— is it not
• 49:21
  proving his point that that's what we do as soon as we think someone's being
• 49:24
  an idiot? We just rewrite their— call it their entire football career.
• 49:28
  Um, I'm just curious. I'm going through, um, specifically Will Compton's career.
• 49:32
  How many, how many fucking big games did you win? Like, the fuck, the fuck's
• 49:35
  going on here? Yeah, why did ESPN hire you just now? Like, I'm, I'm a
• 49:38
  little fucking confused here. Like, you're telling me the answer
• 49:42
  to this is, who the fuck are you, Jayden Daniels? A Heisman winner.
• 49:46
  Heisman Trophy winner. Nearly went to the fucking Super Bowl with a bunch of college
• 49:49
  records that you couldn't, you couldn't fucking sniff. And he did it in his first
• 49:52
  year with the team you played for with like 5 years and you didn't do
• 49:56
  shit with. Yeah, but like, listen, I'm not also not here trying to shit on
• 49:59
  your career. You were an NFL player. I will. You played 9 seasons. I didn't
• 50:02
  play at all, so I can shit on all your careers equally, and I can
• 50:05
  tell you right now who meant something to football and who fucking didn't. And no
• 50:08
  one even remembers you played football. I had to look up your fucking
• 50:11
  stats. I— which, by the way, good on you, you played 9 seasons in the
• 50:15
  NFL, that's good shit. But I'll tell you this right now, you saying who the
• 50:18
  fuck are you to Jayden Daniels, motherfucker, get a mirror. Who the
• 50:22
  fuck do you think you are saying that shit? Now I agree that Jayden Daniels,
• 50:26
  this is a fucking bitch-ass move. What are you doing, buddy? Like, fucking knock it
• 50:29
  off. But Why is it that we can't just say that without being like,
• 50:32
  and also Joe Burrow was better than you? Uh,
• 50:36
  hold on. If you're going to do that, I would be really— I would
• 50:40
  be really quick to look at who else is agreeing with you in talking that
• 50:44
  way. Yeah, this is something I always tell people to do. Hey, you want to
• 50:48
  start mocking Jayden Daniels' college career and,
• 50:51
  and, and, and doing this thing where you sort of
• 50:56
  Disingenuously compare it to Joe Burrow. You want to do that?
• 51:00
  Okay. Let's just— let's just inarticulately
• 51:05
  compare him to Joe Burrow and then look at who's also
• 51:10
  posting similar stuff to you. You're now posting the same stuff as Will Compton,
• 51:14
  MAGA dudes from the NFL. Your take is—
• 51:18
  is the MAGA white dude guy take In the end.
• 51:21
  So I would just always consider who it is that's speaking the way that you're
• 51:25
  speaking before you do it, because all we had to do is be like,
• 51:27
  hey, Jaden, stop being a fucking drama queen. Shut up. This is a bad look.
• 51:31
  Go pay attention to your goddamn fucking NFL team.
• 51:33
  Please shut up. We did— we did not have to go to,
• 51:38
  oh, and by the way, your Heisman year wasn't even that good. Shut the fuck
• 51:42
  up, you absolute fucking dorks. Fucking— you guys
• 51:45
  are such fucking dorks, dude. Yep. So anyway,
• 51:49
  that's that. Jayden Daniels is weird, but also he was really good at football in
• 51:52
  college and definitely just as good as Joe Burrow. Everybody fucking relax. Yes. Um,
• 51:56
  but that— then again, but also, but he's weird. Jayden Daniels, not fucking— knock
• 52:00
  it off. Yeah, stop. Please stop. Just go play football. Embarrassing, dude. Um, and like,
• 52:04
  you're about to make a big contract if you have a good year. Please just
• 52:06
  go play football. Oh my God, like, I hate to be that guy, but yeah,
• 52:09
  dude, just fucking— well, I said this on the radio the other day. I'm like,
• 52:11
  these guys only have so much, so much of a window to make their big
• 52:13
  contract. Like, don't fuck it up. Just Get it done. Close the goddamn yearbook.
• 52:16
  No one fucking cares. Yeah. Um, let's stay on
• 52:20
  the, uh— this is a weird amount
• 52:23
  of attention that Will Compton is getting lately, but ESPN officially announced bussin'
• 52:29
  and Pete on campus after not renewing, uh, Damian Woody's contract.
• 52:33
  So Damian Woody is out from ESPN. Another, uh,
• 52:36
  NFL talent, another, uh, Black NFL talent out of the league,
• 52:39
  out of the, uh, network. As they announce that Bustin'
• 52:43
  and Pete on Campus will air Fridays at 2 p.m. Eastern throughout the
• 52:47
  college football season, with the debut set for September 4th in Baton
• 52:51
  Rouge ahead of Clemson-LSU, followed by a September 11th stop in Ann Arbor.
• 52:55
  Friday afternoon program built around Josh Pate and Bustin'
• 52:58
  with the Boys co-hosts Will Compton and Taylor Luan broadcasting from
• 53:02
  campus sites that would sometimes but not always double as the week's college game day
• 53:06
  location. Something to note is that, uh, Will Compton and
• 53:10
  Taylor Luanne, and I believe Josh Pate as well, but, uh, the Bussin' with
• 53:14
  the Boys co-hosts are MAGA and hosted Donald Trump on their podcast in
• 53:18
  advance of the 2024 election. They are,
• 53:21
  uh— Taylor Luanne has a genuinely bad reputation,
• 53:26
  um, has had assault charges, has had sexual assault allegations,
• 53:29
  and he also has, uh, developed a reputation that was very well
• 53:34
  discussed both in the media and behind the scenes for being really
• 53:39
  aggressive and dirty player in the NFL.
• 53:43
  That's Taylor Lewan. Will Compton, again, don't know much about him
• 53:46
  because he's literally irrelevant outside of the fact that he is this
• 53:50
  guy's podcast host. And in response to people criticizing
• 53:54
  him about Trump, farted on camera. So welcome
• 53:59
  to ESPN. ESPN, you called
• 54:03
  it a very specific show thinking about these
• 54:07
  2 being on college campuses. Oh yeah, yeah. Uh, well, right away,
• 54:11
  ladies, cover your drinks. Cover your drinks. They should just call this the fucking Date
• 54:15
  Rape Hour. The names, Bussin' with the Boys and Pate
• 54:19
  on campus. Boy, I love a bunch of 40 fucking year olds on campus.
• 54:23
  Fucking gross. Fucking gross. Everything about this is gross. ESPN, you're fucking
• 54:26
  gross. You're fucking pathetic. I'm so thrilled I don't work for you. You said how
• 54:30
  many Pat McAfees do they need? Yeah, how many fucking Pat McAfees does ESPN
• 54:33
  need? Because now they got what, like 8? Yeah, like I thought, like the whole
• 54:37
  thing is that like, well, Pat McAfee over at the fucking Hunger Games this week,
• 54:40
  fucking good job right there. Then he went on TV and fucking defended it.
• 54:43
  Dude, you guys have all lost the fucking plot. Your fucking brains
• 54:47
  have turned to fucking mush. The idea— it's fucking embarrassing, man. The idea— it
• 54:52
  honestly makes me— I've always got a lot of Pat, but Jesus Christ, it makes
• 54:55
  me feel fucking embarrassing. Well, Pat's like
• 54:59
  It's like you can have one Pat. First of all, you don't have to pay
• 55:00
  him $200 million a year. Relax. But you also don't need more of them and
• 55:04
  less talented ones at that. At least Pat
• 55:08
  McAfee has a fucking NFL highlight reel. And then on top of it,
• 55:11
  these dudes are not good. Like, you're, you're hiring
• 55:15
  former NFL MAGA frat bros to
• 55:20
  appeal to, like, Literally like
• 55:24
  MAGA frat boys. Yeah, MAGA frat bros who are 20 years younger than them,
• 55:27
  who what, like think that they're cool?
• 55:30
  I'm so confused as to what value this brings to the
• 55:34
  fucking table. I have no idea. Like, so you're going to, you're going to have
• 55:37
  this as complementary programming. You've already put Pat McAfee to annoy the
• 55:41
  fuck out of, out of Nick Saban and everybody else on the goddamn desk.
• 55:46
  They're starting to figure that out fine. And you're going to add this into the
• 55:49
  mix. And by the way, you're removing everybody with an NFL pedigree
• 55:54
  who was actually good at football, who was actually like— they're all the people who
• 55:58
  like, you're like, I remember their career, they were really good. They're fucking out.
• 56:02
  Like, they're— they, they, they, uh, fired Bart Scott today too.
• 56:05
  Like, whether you thought they were good or not, at least they had like NFL—
• 56:08
  they have literally— they're losing all of them. They're all gone. Even on the baseball
• 56:12
  side, Carl Ravitch is weirdly still going to call a couple games before he walks
• 56:15
  out the door. I saw Katie Nolan, uh, saying something about it, about how she
• 56:18
  had a weird exit. I think she might have said it was from Fox.
• 56:20
  I'm not sure. She was— she was there at ESPN. Yeah, yeah. So that weird
• 56:24
  exit from Fox, and I just started laughing. I'm like, you're saying this on SiriusXM?
• 56:27
  Just you wait, Katie. Just you wait how fucking weird an exit can
• 56:31
  be, because you have no fucking idea how weird an exit— although her show is
• 56:34
  doing really well, so is it? Yeah, so she might be safe. But weird exits
• 56:38
  are sort of status quo at this point. Like, they just are. Everybody's being fucking
• 56:42
  kicked out on their ass. But I will say, the,
• 56:46
  the insanity of getting rid of,
• 56:49
  ahead of football season, all your actually good
• 56:52
  football players is like— I like—
• 56:57
  they really actually genuinely think that like this is
• 57:00
  where sports media is going. And meanwhile, our shit,
• 57:04
  actually talking about sports, actually talking about genuine stories,
• 57:08
  people are lapping it up. All they want is to watch like real
• 57:12
  conversations from people who know what's going on, who have actual analysis.
• 57:17
  Believe it or not, we're about to get into a— we're about to get
• 57:21
  into a segment here where that has finally and fully convinced me, and I'm not
• 57:24
  kidding, that I am a better NFL analyst than
• 57:28
  a lot of actual NFL players. I, I just am.
• 57:32
  I just am. And that is okay. The boys
• 57:36
  are going to have to fucking deal with it. My eyeballs work and I,
• 57:39
  and I don't have an ego the size of the fucking state of Texas
• 57:42
  that's going to impinge my ability to be honest.
• 57:47
  Dan Orlovsky is a sociopath. And if anybody watches Game of Thrones
• 57:52
  or House of the Dragon, I need you to understand that my impression
• 57:56
  of Dan Orlovsky at this point is, is Ormund Hightower-esque.
• 58:01
  I think he is a— is like an, an actual narcissist
• 58:06
  sociopath whose eventual ousting
• 58:09
  from this industry will be perhaps
• 58:13
  one of my great pleasures. Protect our women. Protect our
• 58:17
  women. Protect our— that's Dan Orlowski. We must protect our women and our fun.
• 58:21
  Remember that. I will never fucking forget, Dan. No, I am.
• 58:24
  I'm gonna remind you. He's not— he's not kidding. Fucking time. And if I
• 58:28
  ever see you, I'm going to remind you of that tweet where you inadvertently
• 58:32
  tried to get a female boxer killed. Continue.
• 58:35
  Dan Orlovsky. I can't believe they let him do this.
• 58:39
  Ranked NFL QBs by trait.
• 58:44
  Now, what? I already don't love that.
• 58:47
  The wording. They ranked him, ranked them by trait.
• 58:51
  So we're talking Psalm 1 and 2. What's the trait?
• 58:55
  Fucking blond locks and blue eyes.
• 58:58
  Fuck. Continue. They let him post— put his 1 through
• 59:02
  10 in NFL quarterbacks at, I don't know,
• 59:05
  a bunch of pre-designed scouting traits. Oh, traits.
• 59:09
  Okay, traits. Continue. Uh,
• 59:13
  we kicked it off strong at arm strength.
• 59:16
  Um, number 1 is Josh Allen. I know
• 59:19
  it's gonna shock you. Number 2 is Justin Herbert. Dude, Justin Herbert
• 59:23
  is so great. He, he requires No criticism for anything ever.
• 59:26
  Yeah, he is perfect. I loved how he fed grapes to his fucking
• 59:30
  girlfriend. Sorry, fiancée. Yes. And then number 3 is Caleb
• 59:35
  Williams. So right there, right there, you've lost
• 59:38
  me. And believe me, I did not open this article thinking Dan
• 59:42
  might have a point. At no point did I hope that Dan had a— like,
• 59:45
  I wouldn't have even been dumb enough to hope that. But Caleb Williams has
• 59:49
  the best arm in the NFL. It's not a question. There's no fucking question about
• 59:52
  it. Uh, I've— there— this is not a fucking debate. Uh,
• 59:56
  all these guys have great arms. I, I'm not 100%
• 59:59
  sure I know what it— what's all going— I mean, Matthew Stafford
• 1:00:04
  is, is 100 years old. Like, he's got to be lower on that list,
• 1:00:06
  but whatever. Ball placement. You're going
• 1:00:10
  to be shocked to know that the first 5 quarterbacks on this list are white
• 1:00:14
  because they can really place the ball. Number 1, these guys just
• 1:00:18
  really see feel better, you know? Yeah, Matthew Stafford's great at placing the ball.
• 1:00:21
  Wow, is it because he literally always has the best wide receivers in the league?
• 1:00:24
  Boy, I'm noticing that the first 5 are way more quarterbacky. Very quarterbacky
• 1:00:29
  guy. Very quarterbacky guys. I will say Sam Darnold finally getting on a
• 1:00:34
  goddamn list. Happy for him. Uh, that's the only thing that's been— that's
• 1:00:37
  the only way to get him on a list. Yeah, ball placement.
• 1:00:41
  Ball placement and quarterbacky. Let's look at Dan Orlovsky's all top
• 1:00:45
  quarterbacky list. Okay, you want
• 1:00:50
  to know who's the best at mechanics? Yeah, who's, who's quarterbacky on this
• 1:00:54
  one? Matthew Stafford. That's good, I agree.
• 1:00:57
  You're gonna be shocked to know that Joe Burrow is number 2, but number 3
• 1:01:01
  is a real winner. Daniel Jones, baby! The mechanics
• 1:01:06
  on Daniel Jones. What the fuck is this?
• 1:01:09
  And then Jared Goff. Listen, it takes us all
• 1:01:13
  the way until 10 to get to Lamar Jackson. Now, I'll give him this.
• 1:01:16
  He did not give too much love to Josh Allen on this. He's only put
• 1:01:19
  him at number 9. Wow. I'll also have you know that Patrick
• 1:01:23
  Mahomes is nowhere on the mechanics list. Patrick Mahomes has missed out on mechanics.
• 1:01:26
  He's got none of it. Okay, here we go. Here's the fun one.
• 1:01:30
  Decision-making with the football. Mr. 4 turnovers
• 1:01:35
  in the divisional round himself, Josh Allen. Number 1,
• 1:01:39
  baby. We did it, baby. Number 1. By the way,
• 1:01:42
  Matthew Stafford also made some pretty major mistakes.
• 1:01:47
  Not making— not— that's neither here nor there.
• 1:01:50
  Drake Maye has somehow caught his way into the top 5 of this at
• 1:01:54
  number 4, which is fucking shocking. And yeah,
• 1:01:59
  pocket presence.
• 1:02:02
  This is the fucking funniest list I've ever fucking seen.
• 1:02:06
  I can't believe— like, it has to be a joke, right? These, these got
• 1:02:10
  to be trolling, right? You got— this can't be. None of this can be real.
• 1:02:12
  I wish Mocha knew about football so I could have made him guess about— I'm
• 1:02:16
  telling you, man, this is batshit. This is like, this is like soap.
• 1:02:19
  This is like, this is rage baiting type of batshit. Oh, it's,
• 1:02:22
  it's a, it's, it's like— this is congressmen saying
• 1:02:27
  like Muslims shouldn't be here type of batshit.
• 1:02:30
  Um, there was a woman on Threads today that
• 1:02:34
  was mad that, uh, Tillamook cheddar cheese is halal.
• 1:02:38
  So that's kind of what this level of rage baiting feels like.
• 1:02:41
  Um, the number 1 pocket presence quarterback in the
• 1:02:45
  NFL— bear in mind, you watched all the playoffs and the Super Bowl last year—
• 1:02:48
  is Drake Maye. It is, it is Drake Maye,
• 1:02:52
  and then it's Joe Burrow, and then it's Sam Darnold, and then it's Justin Herbert,
• 1:02:54
  and then Dak Prescott finally makes it into, into that top 5 there.
• 1:02:58
  Um, I would like you to note that Brock
• 1:03:01
  Purdy's on here, so I'm glad we got him in there. NFL QB.
• 1:03:04
  Um, so, uh, they gave Caleb Williams on
• 1:03:08
  here too. It's like, man, you're gonna give Caleb Williams pocket presence number
• 1:03:11
  7 behind Drake Maye, but you're not gonna give him the arm. Okay, I,
• 1:03:14
  I just would like to— I, I would just like to— is it, is it
• 1:03:17
  possible that he got drunk and picked this all out of a hat? No,
• 1:03:20
  because he's a fucking dweeb who doesn't drink. Fuck. I know. Fuck.
• 1:03:24
  I almost had an excuse for you, man. Is he into mushrooms or something?
• 1:03:27
  He does nothing. He won't even get a pedicure. Didn't you see his, his weird
• 1:03:31
  little— did you see his rant about the pedicures and how, um, men can't
• 1:03:35
  go get pedicures because that's lame. And like, he was all being like,
• 1:03:38
  you don't like toxic masculinity about men getting pedicures? You don't like having
• 1:03:42
  your feet feel better? Like, what the fuck? And he has gross feet and everybody
• 1:03:46
  ripped him for it. And he's like, like, he's literally like, he's literally the guy
• 1:03:50
  at the party where you're like, oh, did anyone talk to Dan? Why are you
• 1:03:54
  here? Fucking listen to these people. Yeah, like, don't you want to like listen to
• 1:03:56
  somebody that you like? Like, Mocha, we've never hung out, but like We could fucking
• 1:04:00
  go hang out. Yeah. Oh, I didn't like that response. We can't hang out.
• 1:04:04
  Oh no, we can. He's just— he gave me a real— he gave me
• 1:04:08
  a real— he did, but that was a real like— no. Yeah, he's like,
• 1:04:12
  I could put up with you for like a day. I won't text you later.
• 1:04:15
  Jesus. Sorry, buddy. Damn. Okay, well, me and Cody are going to the hot tub
• 1:04:18
  alone then. That's right. We'll miss you. All right, so, uh, before I need to—
• 1:04:22
  this is my favorite one. This is my favorite one ever. Okay. After all this,
• 1:04:26
  second reaction ability. So I guess he's our second.
• 1:04:29
  He's saying like how quickly you can react in the, in the game.
• 1:04:33
  He's making shit up at this point. But Josh Allen is number 1,
• 1:04:36
  of course. Basically, if you've— if he's voted you for MVP,
• 1:04:39
  he's going to make sure you're at the top. Then he gives Caleb Williams some
• 1:04:42
  love. Patrick Mahomes, Drake Maye, Sam Darnold,
• 1:04:46
  Bo Nix, and Brock Purdy rank above Lamar Jackson
• 1:04:50
  in second reaction ability, which is one of the funniest things I've ever
• 1:04:54
  seen in my life. Well, you got to give him credit. He'd make sure.
• 1:04:56
  He made sure he gave Lamar number 1 in one category.
• 1:05:01
  Rushing ability. Guys, Lamar's finally number
• 1:05:06
  1 in his heart because he can run the ball. But don't worry, number 2
• 1:05:08
  is Josh Allen. Drake Maye, Caleb Williams.
• 1:05:12
  How did any of these safeties miss? Obviously. Hold on. This isn't even
• 1:05:16
  the bad one. Look at number 5 and 6 on
• 1:05:20
  rushing ability. Fuck me. Justin Herbert over
• 1:05:24
  Jalen Hurts. Would you like to hear the difference
• 1:05:28
  in their rushing stats just real quick? I, I know it, but I would love
• 1:05:31
  to hear it. Great. So they both came into the league in 2020, so this
• 1:05:35
  is a perfect comp. It really is perfect.
• 1:05:39
  Rushing attempts, 376 for Justin Herbert,
• 1:05:42
  779 for Josh Allen— I mean, for, uh, Jalen Hurts. Okay,
• 1:05:46
  Justin Herbert has rushed for 1,750 15 total
• 1:05:51
  career rushing yards. Jalen Hurts has 3,554.
• 1:05:55
  That's like triple. Justin Herbert has 15 rushing touchdowns.
• 1:05:59
  Jalen Hurts has 63.
• 1:06:03
  Um, so his rushing ability is quite
• 1:06:06
  literally 3 times better than Justin Herbert's, and they have been
• 1:06:10
  playing for the exact same amount of time, and somehow
• 1:06:14
  Justin Herbert came in and ranked ahead of old Picks McGee,
• 1:06:18
  Jalen Hurts, on the I, I don't know what's happening anymore.
• 1:06:21
  And I also don't know how Jayden Daniels ended up behind Baker Mayfield and Bo
• 1:06:25
  Nix. But I'm good with— I'm good with ever— this
• 1:06:30
  is the last time I'm ever even laying
• 1:06:34
  eyes. If it says Dan Orlovsky on a byline now, sometimes I'm going to
• 1:06:37
  see his shit on the internet. The video starts playing, there's nothing I can do.
• 1:06:41
  But if I get a fucking notification and it says this
• 1:06:45
  thing, And I— because I'll, I'll go to a rage bait quarterback ranking.
• 1:06:49
  But if it says Dan Orlovsky, this man,
• 1:06:53
  this is the biggest joke I've ever seen in my
• 1:06:57
  entire life. And it is not close. This makes the
• 1:07:01
  GMs market manipulating quarterback tier rankings
• 1:07:05
  look fucking genius. It does. This guy has no fucking idea what
• 1:07:10
  he's talking about. And I used to think that it was rage baiting. I used
• 1:07:13
  to think that it was like, oh my God, like this guy just knows what's
• 1:07:16
  going to get clicks. No, that's a white supremacist.
• 1:07:19
  That's actually just a white supremacist, and that's how they rank quarterbacks.
• 1:07:23
  So that's, that's the— that's end of story, Cody.
• 1:07:27
  I, I— there are talented people at ESPN. It just got really
• 1:07:31
  dark by me. It's— no, it's just you're— it's, it's, it's the mood lighting.
• 1:07:35
  You— no, that's what I'm saying. It's like I just got really dark. It is
• 1:07:38
  interesting. The lighting did not change. No, it didn't. I looked around, I was like,
• 1:07:41
  oh my God, it just It seems as though the devil has come out of
• 1:07:43
  you. I think it did. It might have. Here's the deal. There are
• 1:07:47
  talented people at ESPN. I just don't—
• 1:07:50
  they're all the people who tell Dan Orlovsky he's an idiot on every panel.
• 1:07:53
  Unfortunately, this is why I'm not on TV anymore. This is why I love Mina
• 1:07:57
  Kimes, because I think I've seen her agree with Dan Orlovsky maybe like once or
• 1:08:01
  twice, like, you know, a broken clock situation. If the more
• 1:08:04
  you disagree with Dan Orlovsky's football— like, I hate
• 1:08:08
  to make— I hate to be one of those people who is beefing with someone
• 1:08:11
  who's objectively more like successful in terms of like money and, um,
• 1:08:15
  and visibility than me. But like, I don't have that level of insecurity.
• 1:08:19
  Like, people will always be like, well, he's on ESPN and who are you?
• 1:08:23
  I'm somebody who literally understands football. And unfortunately, that man
• 1:08:26
  who ran out of the back of the end zone is not, not it.
• 1:08:29
  Listen, I could have— I would have got my ass kicked. I would have never
• 1:08:32
  been able to be an NFL quarterback. But what I wouldn't have done is run
• 1:08:34
  out of the back of my own end zone. What I wouldn't have done is
• 1:08:36
  gone on 16. That's not like— I want to make this abundantly clear. Like,
• 1:08:39
  yeah, I think that's funny that people are like, well, he works on ESPN.
• 1:08:41
  We've— cool, so have I. You worked at FS1 forever. I literally
• 1:08:46
  was there for 7 years. You ran basically a fucking network for 7 years.
• 1:08:50
  I've worked at FS1, I've worked at MLB Network, I worked at all these fucking
• 1:08:52
  places. And you know what I learned at all these places? No one fucking
• 1:08:57
  has a clue. Yeah, because they'll say that, but then they'll be like, oh,
• 1:08:59
  why do you listen to Skip Bayless and SAS? Oh, they— but they, they worked
• 1:09:02
  at ESPN. They were— fuck off, who cares? Do you know the idiots
• 1:09:06
  that all these people employ? We just finished talking about bussing with Pate.
• 1:09:10
  Like, let's be real fucking clear, like, this is all a
• 1:09:14
  clown show. There are smart people there. He said,
• 1:09:17
  he said that Bo Nix is a better rusher than Jayden Daniels.
• 1:09:23
  I got nothing for you guys. My light's back. I, I feel like,
• 1:09:26
  God, they're, they're— remember when ESPN was fucking
• 1:09:30
  cool? It was 2006 and it was fucking awesome. There was a
• 1:09:33
  good time there. There was a really good time over there. Yeah, it was Fucking
• 1:09:36
  cool. There was even some good times in the Obama years. There was some good
• 1:09:40
  times where like Obama was playing basketball with like Chris Paul and stuff.
• 1:09:43
  That was— but like, don't you remember we used to be informed? Like,
• 1:09:47
  we used to be a society. Oh, by the way, wait, hold on. I have
• 1:09:50
  to show you this because I had a viral comment and I think you're gonna
• 1:09:53
  really like this. I can't wait to hear this. I think you're gonna really like
• 1:09:55
  this. So there was a, um, so you know the Madison
• 1:09:58
  Beer Justin Herbert thing? Yes. Oh, do I ever. Uh,
• 1:10:02
  Well, Jackson Dart took his best shot at going
• 1:10:05
  viral for the same reason. No one gives a fuck about you, Jackson.
• 1:10:09
  And he has like a— I think I don't
• 1:10:12
  want to talk down about her because I don't know. I,
• 1:10:15
  I literally don't know who she is, but I assume she's dating Jackson Dart,
• 1:10:18
  so I don't have a high opinion. Yeah. Like, I assume that she's— she looks
• 1:10:22
  like an Instagram type hot, probably blonde girl. Yeah. And they posted
• 1:10:25
  Jackson Dart's girlfriend, Marissa Ayers, visited him in the Giants' first home
• 1:10:29
  practice in East Rutherford, and they're like, She's on the court getting
• 1:10:33
  him water or on the field giving him water, kissing him. And I
• 1:10:37
  just posted underneath, our NFL QBs used to marry the most famous supermodels
• 1:10:40
  in the world and then abandon them from August to February in their quest for
• 1:10:44
  glory. We used to be a real society. And like,
• 1:10:48
  I'm not going to lie, I'm nostalgic. I'm nostalgic for
• 1:10:52
  dudes who married real celebrities and then decided that
• 1:10:56
  they weren't going to talk to them for 6 months. Yep. That's— I'm tired of
• 1:10:58
  these little fucking bitches. I'm tired of these bitches.
• 1:11:01
  Marry, by the way, be Jalen Hurts and marry like a
• 1:11:06
  hot, like, tech woman who's smarter than all of us
• 1:11:10
  and like be a power couple or be Tom
• 1:11:14
  Brady and marry Gisele Bündchen and ruin your
• 1:11:17
  marriage for 10 years straight until she finally leaves you for a jiu-jitsu instructor.
• 1:11:21
  Be interesting. These people are so goddamn boring.
• 1:11:24
  Yeah. Learn, learn, learn from other people. That have made these mistakes.
• 1:11:27
  Don't ever marry an Instagram model. Well, don't ever do it. I don't know who
• 1:11:31
  has ever done that, but I'm just saying, don't ever do it. It doesn't end
• 1:11:35
  well. Instagram model?
• 1:11:39
  Um, I, I wouldn't know, but I suggest—
• 1:11:44
  and I wouldn't know, I wouldn't know, but I'm just saying, in your hypothetical,
• 1:11:47
  I also— in the hypothetical situation, do not date
• 1:11:51
  anyone that is really only looking for
• 1:11:56
  internet attention, Instagram model, and that's it.
• 1:11:59
  Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's just my opinion. It's my opinion. It's what I don't
• 1:12:03
  look for at all. Yeah. Ever. Not because of my past
• 1:12:08
  at all. No, because of this hypothetical. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. No, I'm on
• 1:12:12
  the same page with you. It's a hypothetical. Yeah. Hypothetically, of course. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:12:16
  You ever been married? Imagine if Mocha was like, don't do it.
• 1:12:19
  Mocha's like, I was divorced 5 years ago. Oh, you and me both, buddy.
• 1:12:23
  Halfway divorced. That a boy, me too. That'd be really funny.
• 1:12:27
  He's, he's like literally a child. Let me tell
• 1:12:30
  you about Roxanne. Roxanne? Yeah, it's hot and heavy for a little
• 1:12:35
  bit there. Mocha has 3 kids we don't know about. Yeah, he's just like,
• 1:12:37
  he's like, do you know anything about Burma?
• 1:12:40
  I'm like, sadly yes. Jesus Christ, tell me more.
• 1:12:44
  Mocha's secret life. We're gonna write you a whole fan fiction, my dude. You're gonna
• 1:12:47
  be a whole fucking Uh, if we get big enough, people are definitely gonna
• 1:12:51
  write Mocha fan fiction. I mean, they don't know what's going on back there.
• 1:12:53
  You're gonna be like fucking elves and shit. Yeah, that's why you can never see
• 1:12:57
  my face. We should show your face, you're handsome.
• 1:13:01
  Yeah. Oh, very handsome. He's very— dude, he's camera ready.
• 1:13:06
  No, but there is— yeah, there is something to being the face behind.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah, yeah, to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Yes.
• 1:13:13
  Yeah, yeah, right now he's just the fucking man in the chair. That's right,
• 1:13:17
  that's right. We're out here, we're out here performing like clowns, and Mocha's
• 1:13:21
  cool. We're out here in these fucking streets and he's back there fucking pulling all
• 1:13:24
  the strings. Yeah, you're not fooling anybody. All right,
• 1:13:30
  well, we did it. We did it. Um, really quickly, just for Pop Culture Corner,
• 1:13:34
  just really quickly, uh, Lanterns comes out this weekend. So fucking fun. Um, can you
• 1:13:38
  just fuck off, by the way, because you're gonna be gone? I'm gonna watch it
• 1:13:41
  in Hawaii. No, I wanted to watch it together. We're gonna watch it next week.
• 1:13:44
  We'll watch that episode. No, we're watching it. And Chris is gonna come. We're gonna
• 1:13:47
  cook a tri-tip next Sunday and we're gonna watch Lanterns.
• 1:13:50
  It's like a gigantic family. Mocha, do you want to come over and watch Lanterns
• 1:13:54
  next week? We're gonna make it a thing. Yeah, see, Mocha's gonna hang out with
• 1:13:58
  us. That sounded— that did— that sounded— that was actually way more excited. Now you're—
• 1:14:03
  now you're— now you're an asshole. I really do, Cody. Boy, do I.
• 1:14:06
  Gee golly willikers, let's do that. All right, let's get the— all right,
• 1:14:11
  so Bad news. We will be off next week, but it is only
• 1:14:15
  for one week. I will be holding down the feed a little bit with some
• 1:14:18
  of my own content just to— just so, you know, the people
• 1:14:22
  don't miss out. Hey, I will have my away kit. Maybe we do an emergency
• 1:14:26
  quick little Zoom podcast. I don't want to talk. I want you to shut the
• 1:14:30
  fuck up. I'm not going to be able to lay on the beach. I'm not
• 1:14:32
  going to be able to get drunk. I'm going to, but I could do a
• 1:14:35
  podcast while drunk. Clearly, we don't have that issue. Yeah,
• 1:14:39
  well, yeah, we either way, there will be stuff that pops up on on the
• 1:14:42
  regulars feed on my Instagram. Like, they'll be— I'll be doing my normal stuff,
• 1:14:45
  but also I'm gonna do a little, a little bit of, uh, the regular stuff
• 1:14:48
  though, you know, some, some, uh, clips from the last shows and all that stuff.
• 1:14:51
  So you will not see an empty feed, but we will not be back until,
• 1:14:55
  uh, for a live show in the studio until the following Monday,
• 1:14:58
  24th. That's right. Yeah, so thank you guys.
• 1:15:01
  Like, I want to make this abundantly clear, this week off— I don't
• 1:15:05
  take a whole lot of time off ever. This is actually my first vacation I've
• 1:15:07
  had in over a year. I'm the reason that we've missed shows. Like, literally,
• 1:15:10
  I'm the only one who's taken time off. No, I, I have like— this is
• 1:15:13
  a weird thing about me, and this is true— I have a weird guilt when
• 1:15:17
  I'm— no, no, that's not you. That's, that's all— that is literally everyone in this
• 1:15:20
  industry. If you've been in sports or you've been in sports media, it literally like,
• 1:15:24
  it, it trains you. When I— I think I took 2 sick days at
• 1:15:28
  Fox Sports in 7 years. I've never taken a sick day like this entire—
• 1:15:31
  and one of them was I literally broke my wrist that day.
• 1:15:36
  And then the other one was my stepfather died. My dad died
• 1:15:40
  and I worked that day on SiriusXM. Um, I didn't
• 1:15:45
  take a single day off. To be fair, that was probably just dissociation, but possibly
• 1:15:48
  that as well. I think they would have given you the time off. I,
• 1:15:51
  I worked there. I don't trust them at all. Well, fair enough. I have stories,
• 1:15:55
  and don't worry, I will tell them soon. You know that, um, when I was
• 1:15:58
  25 I was, uh, I had just become a news editor. I wasn't even 25,
• 1:16:01
  I was 24. I was in my first year of news editing at NBC Sports
• 1:16:05
  Boston, and my, uh, best childhood friend died in a car accident tragically
• 1:16:09
  at the age of 25. And I, uh,
• 1:16:13
  I told, you know, I called out of work that day, and then when I
• 1:16:16
  went back into work, I told her when the funeral was going to be.
• 1:16:17
  And my boss said, are you going to need the whole day off for
• 1:16:22
  the funeral? Jesus. Jesus Christ. And I looked at her and I was like,
• 1:16:26
  Yes, my best friend just
• 1:16:30
  died and he was 25. I think I'm gonna
• 1:16:34
  not take the half day and pop in after I've seen a 25-year-old's
• 1:16:38
  dead body with all of my best friends. Thanks though. So you know
• 1:16:41
  what, Cody, I understand the absolute fucking trauma
• 1:16:45
  of the day because I'm the same exact way. My mom, my— all
• 1:16:49
  my friends, anybody will tell you it's been really hard for me to not stress
• 1:16:53
  about not taking time off. I fully get it. That's why I'm bullying you,
• 1:16:57
  because I get how hard it is. I know, I know I need it.
• 1:16:59
  But, um, I do end up needing an emergency pod,
• 1:17:03
  then I have my stuff. Well, we can— my mic's gonna be with me.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah, I'm just— you're just FaceTiming. We can— we'll do a fucking emergency FaceTime.
• 1:17:09
  I'm gonna have my 4K camera, my laptop. I'm gonna have everything I can possibly
• 1:17:12
  need to actually run a show. That being said, I— the plan is we're going
• 1:17:15
  to be off all next week. And, uh, thank you for, uh— but you don't
• 1:17:19
  know what could happen. I mean, listen, you don't know. Like, Tom Brady could decide
• 1:17:22
  to run for president, then we gotta pop off. Then I'm sorry. That's why I'm
• 1:17:24
  taking my mic. Because if something goes apeshit, I got to make some videos.
• 1:17:26
  If there's genuine breaking news, we'll be done and done. You'll see us if that's
• 1:17:30
  the case. But I will be in Hawaii on the North Shore of Oahu.
• 1:17:32
  If you happen to be over there and see me, anybody who watches us is
• 1:17:36
  on the North Shore. You never fucking know. Yeah, Cody will be there. I will
• 1:17:39
  be there for a week and I'm really excited for it. And a good little
• 1:17:42
  getaway and then getting right back to fucking work. It's football season here, baby.
• 1:17:45
  Well, I'm so excited. I'm excited to watch football with you. We're going to— we're
• 1:17:49
  going to hold it down here. We are. We're going to have Sunday football every
• 1:17:52
  Sunday. We're going to be barbecuing it up. We might do some content through the
• 1:17:55
  entire thing, start getting ready to do some, uh, specialty shows. Hell, yesterday was
• 1:17:59
  really our first ever specialty show. I mentioned that, and it even—
• 1:18:02
  it's even here. Maria says, uh, the emergency pod helped for our time
• 1:18:06
  off next week. So it absolutely did. And also, like, um,
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  just in general, I think as we head into this season and we
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  get different opportunities, we may end up having guests.
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  There's going to be things happening. We're building into the Super Bowl. It's getting
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  to that time. We like— listen, we've been doing this for about 5 months now,
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  and we've— I really think we've built something really fun, and we've got a good
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  core of listeners and audience that is really starting to join us.
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  And as that time goes forward, I think it's time for us to start maybe
• 1:18:34
  experimenting a little bit. We're growing up. We're like, we're in our— we're in our,
• 1:18:37
  uh, we've graduated from preschool to elementary school, and we want a little autonomy.
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  And also, like, you gotta understand, this studio has a lot more to offer.
• 1:18:45
  It really does. We're gonna start playing around a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah,
• 1:18:48
  we've got a lot going on. Yeah, so it's gonna be a great time,
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  and, uh, we're really excited for you guys to be joining us. Everybody bully Cody
• 1:18:54
  into not doing work unless he has to. Follow me on Instagram, Antihero Baseball.
• 1:18:58
  You're gonna like all the shit I'll be posting over there from, uh, from Oahu.
• 1:19:01
  Yeah, uh, and I've, and I've already promised the crew, and I'm gonna promise them
• 1:19:04
  more, Cody's gonna post thirst traps. She is adamant that I need to start
• 1:19:08
  posting more. Yeah, because I can't carry all the hotness load on the show.
• 1:19:12
  I don't think think I'm attractive though. I do, but I think you're attractive and
• 1:19:16
  I want you to— my girlfriend does too. And I don't know what the fuck
• 1:19:18
  you girls are looking at. I know, we're just— we've had me— we had a
• 1:19:21
  meeting and we said more, more Cody thirst traps. All right, thirst traps
• 1:19:25
  are coming. Lots and lots of them. A lot of taps. I can't hold down
• 1:19:28
  the hotness factor all by myself. Well, you put out the knees. I don't do
• 1:19:31
  that. I put out more than knees, but you know, people really, uh, they're graphic.
• 1:19:34
  Yeah, fuck. Well, later we'll see you guys in a week and a half,
• 1:19:38
  right, Mocha? Fuck. Well, catch our next show on OnlyFans.
• 1:19:41
  Tanya, fuck Curt Schilling. Fuck Curt Schilling. We'll see
• 1:19:45
  you in a couple weeks,