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- 0:00Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 0:19Speaker 2: All right, 9 o'clock hour here on this Monday. We
- 0:22Speaker 2: are Monday morning quarterbacking with Hugh Millen. Finally, a Sunday
- 0:27Speaker 2: game that means something to be recapped here on this
- 0:31Speaker 2: Monday morning with our QB1. Seahawks win 31-7 over the
- 0:35Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. Cardinals kind of dominated the first quarter by
- 0:40Speaker 2: halftime after a fourth and goal stop by the Cardinals defensively.
- 0:45Speaker 2: We went into the locker rooms tied at 7, but
- 0:49Speaker 2: Mike McDonald and the gang pulled away in the second half,
- 0:52Speaker 2: dominating Arizona 24-0 the rest of the way for a
- 0:56Speaker 2: 31-7 win and a 2-0 start, despite the fact that
- 1:00Speaker 2: our starting quarterback here in Seattle has really not been
- 1:04Speaker 2: available yet. in either of the games. And so, uh, you,
- 1:08Speaker 2: a lot, a lot still left to break down. I mean,
- 1:10Speaker 2: we've already done an hour, but we hardly got into, uh,
- 1:14Speaker 2: drew locks, uh, performance yesterday. And, um, you said, uh,
- 1:18Speaker 2: he made himself a little bit of money, maybe, uh,
- 1:20Speaker 2: here the last couple of weeks.
- 1:23Speaker 1: I certainly would think so. Um, he's, he is, uh,
- 1:26Speaker 1: top of pro football focus quarterback rankings. I, I discovered
- 1:30Speaker 1: that about six seconds before I went on the air
- 1:32Speaker 1: this morning. Um, just as a note. And so, uh, yeah,
- 1:37Speaker 1: I think he's just playing, uh, like way beyond what
- 1:41Speaker 1: you would expect a backup. And he's only had one
- 1:45Speaker 1: pass that could have been intercepted. That was, I think
- 1:50Speaker 1: his second or third pass against the Patriots over on
- 1:52Speaker 1: the corner, out on the sideline. Other than that, he's,
- 1:55Speaker 1: he's protected the ball and he, he has navigated the pocket.
- 2:01Speaker 1: He has stood in there with, uh, The rush barreling
- 2:06Speaker 1: down on him. I mean, I did not think Charles
- 2:09Speaker 1: Cross had a good game yesterday. But just a few
- 2:12Speaker 1: of the things, just the arm talent. He has a
- 2:16Speaker 1: play action. If you remember that play he hit to
- 2:19Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheed. So he turns his back. He's under center.
- 2:22Speaker 1: He turns his back on the defense and all kinds
- 2:24Speaker 1: of hell is breaking loose. Guys are coming from everywhere.
- 2:28Speaker 1: It's a fire zone and it's a two deep three under.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I mean, there's only five guys. So you would say
- 2:33Speaker 1: that there's got to be holes, but that's not what
- 2:36Speaker 1: the defense presented before he turned his back on it.
- 2:39Speaker 1: So he's got to put his back foot on the ground.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Now there's six guys coming at him. It's squeezing, and
- 2:45Speaker 1: he just puts his back foot on the ground, no hitch,
- 2:47Speaker 1: and he just throws it in there and gets 23 yards.
- 2:50Speaker 1: How about the escape that he had? And he throws
- 2:56Speaker 1: to Shahid and drops on the third and 12th?
- 2:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:00Speaker 1: You know, Cross got beat on that.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I think the, um, the right guard who on that play,
- 3:08Speaker 1: I think it.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Was, it was Stevens. Yeah, it was Stevens.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Um, They took L's, and so he had to get
- 3:14Speaker 1: out of there. Unbelievable play, and you don't even get
- 3:17Speaker 1: a completion on that. How about he has a naked route?
- 3:20Speaker 1: The ball's on the right hash, so they're doing a flood.
- 3:24Speaker 1: There's a lot of congestion. The zone, everything, it's a
- 3:26Speaker 1: box of code hangers over into the short side of
- 3:28Speaker 1: the field. JSN's coming from the backside, but he's pocketing
- 3:33Speaker 1: it into this little tiny window amongst a lot of guys,
- 3:37Speaker 1: and with Locke getting chased... He threw it at exactly
- 3:40Speaker 1: the 40-yard line. It was caught on exactly the 20-yard line.
- 3:44Speaker 1: So it was exactly 20 yards in the air. The
- 3:46Speaker 1: reason I highlight that, that's what a major league pitcher,
- 3:49Speaker 1: 60 feet from the pitcher's mound to home plate. And
- 3:55Speaker 1: here you got Locke running away from it and just
- 3:59Speaker 1: with his arm just thrown across in this zone coverage
- 4:02Speaker 1: and beautiful job by Jason knowing exactly where to settle.
- 4:06Speaker 1: that is such high level football. I mean, if you're
- 4:08Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you're looking to go, how do we, I mean,
- 4:12Speaker 1: how did he get that ball into that mailbox? Um, the, uh,
- 4:17Speaker 1: an Okie route that he had on third and two
- 4:20Speaker 1: from the far right hash. Um, he's got, again, the,
- 4:24Speaker 1: the pockets bearing on barreling down on him and JSN
- 4:29Speaker 1: gets all the way to the, uh, to the two
- 4:33Speaker 1: yard line. And, and yet, Locke pulls him back to
- 4:38Speaker 1: the five-yard line to get the protection. And on that play,
- 4:43Speaker 1: that's a five-step out route. So it's usually a six-step,
- 4:47Speaker 1: but the way the Seahawks do their inside foot back
- 4:52Speaker 1: instead of inside foot forward, it ends up being a
- 4:59Speaker 1: route on that one with the five steps where he's
- 5:02Speaker 1: kind of late. You got the quarterback going five steps
- 5:04Speaker 1: and a hitch. But the receiver's already out of the break,
- 5:08Speaker 1: and so you've got to, to preserve the completion, you've
- 5:11Speaker 1: got to pull him back towards the line of scrimmage.
- 5:14Speaker 1: He did that, right? So even when he was late
- 5:17Speaker 1: because of the design of the play, he was able
- 5:19Speaker 1: to salvage it from the far hash. That's just, you know,
- 5:23Speaker 1: big-time arm talent. I mean, I've just turned the page
- 5:27Speaker 1: on the nose, but do you have any thoughts on those?
- 5:29Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the type of stuff, the high
- 5:32Speaker 1: degree of difficulty is what I'm trying to, to get
- 5:35Speaker 1: across on so many of these throws.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Here's what I am thinking. As
- 5:43Speaker 2: much as I do believe Sam Darnold, we're better with
- 5:47Speaker 2: Sam Darnold as the quarterback. I wake up this morning,
- 5:51Speaker 2: not in a rush to get him back. Like, my
- 5:54Speaker 2: feeling is like, hey, let's make sure he's 100% because
- 5:58Speaker 2: what I've seen from Drew Locke, I don't think we're
- 6:00Speaker 2: going to have too much trouble at the quarterback position
- 6:03Speaker 2: winning the next couple of games. So that's kind of
- 6:06Speaker 2: my feeling this morning, Hugh. I agree with you.
- 6:08Speaker 1: You said it better than me. I think everything you
- 6:11Speaker 1: just said is how I would feel. I mean, I still,
- 6:14Speaker 1: I'm not wavering off of Sam Darnold.
- 6:16Speaker 2: No.
- 6:17Speaker 1: And, you know, a couple of games doesn't move you,
- 6:20Speaker 1: but I think Drew Locke, he's really in a great
- 6:23Speaker 1: place right now. You know, the maturity level that he
- 6:28Speaker 1: talks about, you know, it just feels like he's more
- 6:30Speaker 1: mature and in his life. And then you're seeing mature
- 6:34Speaker 1: decisions on the field where he's throwing the ball down
- 6:38Speaker 1: the field when there's opportunities. And this guy has guts, man.
- 6:42Speaker 1: I mean, Julian Love said, we know that Drew's a
- 6:45Speaker 1: gunslinger and that could be a positive or a negative
- 6:50Speaker 1: through the years, at least in my experience. it kind
- 6:52Speaker 1: of depends on the context. When I hear somebody described
- 6:55Speaker 1: as a gunslinger, you know, are you using that as
- 6:58Speaker 1: a pejorative or are you using that as a compliment?
- 7:01Speaker 1: Because sometimes gunslingers can be, well, he's got a big arm,
- 7:05Speaker 1: but he doesn't have the discernment as to when to
- 7:09Speaker 1: try and stab it into tight windows. And then when
- 7:12Speaker 1: it's not there. So gunslinger now, now I don't know
- 7:17Speaker 1: what was in Julian Love's head, but I was standing,
- 7:20Speaker 1: ate from him and, and knowing Julian love a little
- 7:24Speaker 1: bit like we all do. Uh, he's a great dude
- 7:27Speaker 1: in the expression on his face. Obviously he was saying, Hey,
- 7:30Speaker 1: this guy can, what he, I interpreted saying is that
- 7:34Speaker 1: he can make all these throws. He can, he can
- 7:37Speaker 1: zing it in there. I mean, how about the, the,
- 7:39Speaker 1: the throw that he had to a Royal on play
- 7:42Speaker 1: action where it's a pistol, he's got a turned right-handed
- 7:45Speaker 1: quarterback turned to his left fake, then wheel his body around.
- 7:50Speaker 1: and then with really no hop to his step, just
- 7:54Speaker 1: turn and whip the ball. There's defenders converging from the inside.
- 8:00Speaker 1: There's a defender trailing from the outside. I mean, there's
- 8:03Speaker 1: only kind of one spot you can put that ball.
- 8:05Speaker 1: He puts it into a spot the size of a
- 8:08Speaker 1: salad plate, and you're just.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Going, whoa, this dude is feeling it.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 8:17Speaker 1: And, uh, and there's more on the, on these sheets, but, but, uh,
- 8:21Speaker 1: that would be the part that I would say is, is,
- 8:24Speaker 1: is a guy that is, Hey, you give me a
- 8:27Speaker 1: little bit of window. I'm going to rip it right
- 8:29Speaker 1: in there.
- 8:30Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:31Speaker 1: But yet, you know, we're sitting there, we're two, two
- 8:34Speaker 1: games into this thing. He hasn't, he hasn't turned the
- 8:37Speaker 1: ball over.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Right.
- 8:38Speaker 4: Right.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Um, If I could bring up one negative from this week,
- 8:42Speaker 2: and everything we've discussed to this point has been overly positive,
- 8:48Speaker 2: but the Rashid Shaheed drop, he also had a fumble
- 8:51Speaker 2: on a kick return. And we are also, Hugh, watching
- 8:55Speaker 2: Ken Walker look like the best running back on the
- 8:58Speaker 2: planet two weeks in a row. I know that you
- 9:01Speaker 2: were suspicious about Rashid Shaheed. I think that's a safe
- 9:05Speaker 2: word to use heading into the offseason. And I know
- 9:10Speaker 2: you're a big fan of Ken Walker. As we sit
- 9:13Speaker 2: here and evaluate Shahid, I mean, it just looks like
- 9:16Speaker 2: you're going to get a lot better for us to
- 9:18Speaker 2: have justified giving you $ 17 million and letting Ken Walker
- 9:22Speaker 2: walk out the door.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Well, I would say finite cornot opus, which translates... That's
- 9:28Speaker 1: what I was thinking.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 9:30Speaker 1: The end crowns the work, right? So I think that
- 9:33Speaker 1: if our Latin forebears were trying to instruct us, some
- 9:38Speaker 1: of our Fallacious thinking is like, hey, let's not rush
- 9:42Speaker 1: to judgment. But right now, it's natural.
- 9:46Speaker 2: The Seahawks will.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Tell you that they let Kenneth Walker go because they
- 9:51Speaker 1: had to make all the signings. They had to sign JSN. Well,
- 9:55Speaker 1: we're totally down for that. They had to sign Witherspoon.
- 9:58Speaker 1: You damn right. Sign him. Leonard Williams, sure, he's getting
- 10:01Speaker 1: a little old, but love that. Didn't they do Charles
- 10:03Speaker 1: Cross this offseason?
- 10:05Speaker 2: I think it was in-season last year. Okay, so we
- 10:12Speaker 2: get that there's important pieces that had to be signed.
- 10:16Speaker 2: So everybody that I just mentioned is like, hey, that's
- 10:19Speaker 2: a slam dunk. The question, and you just framed it perfectly,
- 10:24Speaker 2: the question throughout these next couple of years is going
- 10:28Speaker 2: to be Kenneth Walker, versus Rashid Shaheed.
- 10:31Speaker 1: That's it. Because Rashid Shaheed has paid 17 million and
- 10:35Speaker 1: you pass on Kenneth Walker for 14 million. And you just,
- 10:39Speaker 1: you just, just say, Hey, Hey, forget schemes or what
- 10:42Speaker 1: have you just tell you who makes more of an
- 10:45Speaker 1: impact on the game. And, and so, you know, the
- 10:50Speaker 1: Seahawks are two and oh, so it's okay. But I am,
- 10:53Speaker 1: I'm right now I've got, I got texts with my
- 10:56Speaker 1: college buddies. Some of them played for the Huskies and
- 10:58Speaker 1: played in the NFL, but, but you know, one of
- 11:01Speaker 1: my texts is, is right now Rasheed Shaheed hasn't done
- 11:03Speaker 1: anything the entire season that a camp wide receiver couldn't do.
- 11:09Speaker 1: And that's not even really exaggerating. Who's the kid at
- 11:11Speaker 1: 87 that came on? Monterey Foster. Montorey Foster. Montorey Foster.
- 11:19Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. I haven't seen Shaheed do anything.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And in the King game either. I think he's, he's
- 11:24Speaker 1: called fair catches when he shouldn't. I think he's let
- 11:27Speaker 1: ball bounces when he shouldn't. Um, And Montori Foster could
- 11:32Speaker 1: have caught that ball that I described, that little skid route,
- 11:35Speaker 1: and got the 23 yards as well. I haven't seen
- 11:38Speaker 1: him do anything that a camp wide receiver couldn't do.
- 11:43Speaker 1: So it's got to pick up. It's got to pick up.
- 11:47Speaker 1: And his instincts, like on that wide receiver screen, oh,
- 11:51Speaker 1: my God, the tunnel screen, there's four guys. And if
- 11:54Speaker 1: he had just been a few feet to the inside,
- 11:56Speaker 1: he had all these blockers, but he stayed a little
- 11:58Speaker 1: bit wider. And so the defender, the corner on the outside,
- 12:02Speaker 1: he could slip in to the outside of all those
- 12:05Speaker 1: blockers and make a tackle for like a four-yard gain.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Where if he was just a few feet in, you know,
- 12:12Speaker 1: that might've gone for 15 with his speed, you know,
- 12:14Speaker 1: you know, make one guy kind of semi miss and you,
- 12:16Speaker 1: you could house it. And so it's like all the,
- 12:20Speaker 1: what do we call, what'd I say? JSN's high fits,
- 12:24Speaker 1: you know, we're watching a maestro with all the nuance
- 12:27Speaker 1: in the micro detail of perfection of how to be
- 12:31Speaker 1: a receiver in number 11. And then it's, it's kind
- 12:35Speaker 1: of ironic that 11 times two is 22. And yet,
- 12:40Speaker 1: JSN is twice the wide receiver. Let me take it back.
- 12:43Speaker 1: He's more like four times the receiver. So he should
- 12:47Speaker 1: be 88. If our boy Rashid Shaheed is 22, then
- 12:57Speaker 1: Jackson Smith should be wearing 88 in my opinion. So
- 13:01Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems like a really good guy.
- 13:04Speaker 1: The Lord put him on the planet to run. He
- 13:07Speaker 1: didn't bless him with receiver instincts anywhere near to the
- 13:11Speaker 1: level of jsn all you have to do is just
- 13:13Speaker 1: say jsn um and and we can't expect them all
- 13:17Speaker 1: to be that way right you couldn't expect john taylor
- 13:19Speaker 1: to be jerry rice to bring up your not everybody's
- 13:22Speaker 1: going to be great and i'm not asking for greatness
- 13:24Speaker 1: but we've we've got nothing we've got nothing after two
- 13:30Speaker 1: weeks so we've got to pick that up.
- 13:33Speaker 2: I know I want to get back to Spoon and
- 13:34Speaker 2: some other defensive stuff. We'll save that for the next segment.
- 13:38Speaker 2: With the remaining minute and a half, if I'm going
- 13:41Speaker 2: to pick at something else, you did get stopped at
- 13:45Speaker 2: the goal line there at the end of the half
- 13:46Speaker 2: and forced you to go into the halftime tied at
- 13:49Speaker 2: seven with a not very good football team. Would you
- 13:52Speaker 2: have done anything differently there, or was it the smart
- 13:55Speaker 2: move to just kind of keep hammering away there at
- 13:58Speaker 2: the goal line and.
- 13:59Speaker 1: Try to get that yard? I thought it got too
- 14:01Speaker 1: conservative there. There was three straight runs once you got
- 14:04Speaker 1: a first and goal at the six. To send in
- 14:09Speaker 1: all the linemen and they got all this, hey, number
- 14:11Speaker 1: 50 is eligible, number 50. The official, I think, told
- 14:15Speaker 1: us three different guys were eligible. So now you look
- 14:19Speaker 1: and you say, okay, that's the type of thing you do.
- 14:22Speaker 1: All fourth and ones are not created, Eagle Chuck. It
- 14:25Speaker 1: could be fourth and a millimeter or it could be
- 14:28Speaker 1: fourth and four and a half feet. You know, it
- 14:31Speaker 1: has to be touching the two-yard line hash, and the
- 14:34Speaker 1: ball is 11 inches. Basically, you're talking about actually almost
- 14:38Speaker 1: five feet. And so the difference between four– I thought
- 14:42Speaker 1: it was at least four feet. You're not going to
- 14:45Speaker 1: get that in the NFL. To me, it's like, hey,
- 14:49Speaker 1: if you're going to run it, spread it out more or,
- 14:51Speaker 1: you know, be willing to throw on first down, whatever.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Drew Locke has earned his– his keeping that regard. And
- 14:58Speaker 1: then in third quarter, they, they ran it again, first
- 15:01Speaker 1: and second down. And then they finally threw it on
- 15:02Speaker 1: third down. Oh, what do you know? He got a touchdown.
- 15:05Speaker 1: So I think that they, they were too conservative down
- 15:07Speaker 1: in the, uh, In the red area there.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Very good, very good. All right, Monday morning quarterback rolls on.
- 15:12Speaker 2: A lot more to discuss. I had to cut off
- 15:15Speaker 2: Hugh earlier when we were getting ready to talk about
- 15:17Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon. He's so excited. So I know he's got
- 15:19Speaker 2: some stuff on.
- 15:20Speaker 1: I was so revved up, man.
- 15:22Speaker 2: He's got some stuff on 21, and we've got a
- 15:24Speaker 2: lot of other ground to cover as well with our
- 15:26Speaker 2: QB1 here on this Monday morning quarterback session, Sports Radio
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- 16:39Speaker 2: Monday morning quarterback session continues. One more segment here with
- 16:42Speaker 2: Hugh Millen, our chief analyst, QB1. as we discuss yesterday's
- 16:48Speaker 2: 31-7 win over the Arizona Cardinals. The Seahawks now 2-0
- 16:53Speaker 2: on the season. And I know there's a lot more
- 16:56Speaker 2: to discuss from the defensive side of the ball in
- 16:59Speaker 2: that victory yesterday, Hugh. And so you were a little
- 17:03Speaker 2: fired up talking about Spoon, No. 21, making some plays yesterday.
- 17:08Speaker 2: What did you see?
- 17:09Speaker 1: Well, I just think Witherspoon... Man, I feel like I've
- 17:14Speaker 1: watched a lot of football through the years. And there
- 17:20Speaker 1: are very few, very, very few, if any, players that
- 17:25Speaker 1: just jump off the page about a guy who just
- 17:28Speaker 1: loves football, burning competitor. You assume they're all burning competitors, right?
- 17:36Speaker 1: But his competitiveness is just off the chart. And they
- 17:41Speaker 1: play him in so many positions. He's an inside defender.
- 17:45Speaker 1: He's a wide defender. He'll be a deep defender. He
- 17:49Speaker 1: has a lot of responsibilities. We highlighted there's two really
- 17:54Speaker 1: special players in the secondary right now, Love and him.
- 17:58Speaker 1: And then the other guys are, I don't feel like
- 18:00Speaker 1: they're special. They just don't make mistakes. And, you know,
- 18:07Speaker 1: they just do their job. And because of Mike McDonald,
- 18:12Speaker 1: But there is a force multiplier factor to Devin Witherspoon
- 18:16Speaker 1: that I am absolutely dead-ass certain I'd die on a
- 18:19Speaker 1: beast on this point. He lifts everybody, the competitiveness. Now,
- 18:27Speaker 1: he's making millions, and he deserves to make millions, and
- 18:30Speaker 1: he was the highest-paid corner there for a minute before Gonzalez.
- 18:33Speaker 1: But he strikes me as a guy, if NFL players
- 18:36Speaker 1: made $ 75, 000 a year, you'd throw on the tape, and
- 18:40Speaker 1: he'd look exactly the same. Yeah. Um, I'm making a
- 18:44Speaker 1: lot of, uh, inferences, but it's just his style of play. And, uh,
- 18:49Speaker 1: I mean, he, he, you know, they play him at
- 18:51Speaker 1: will linebacker. They, they, they, they tried to run somebody in, uh, uh,
- 18:57Speaker 1: in motion to fill up in the gap and the
- 18:59Speaker 1: B to get, and, and he just ciphers it so
- 19:02Speaker 1: fast that like, like the, the guy, this is a
- 19:05Speaker 1: tight end and he just whiffs. Um, and, uh, actually
- 19:09Speaker 1: I think it was a big receiver, but in any event, um,
- 19:12Speaker 1: he just fires his gun and he, and he causes
- 19:15Speaker 1: a three yard loss. And you're like, wait a minute,
- 19:17Speaker 1: that dude doesn't play will linebacker. Like, like like his
- 19:20Speaker 1: gap responsibility that he's not used to doing that, but
- 19:24Speaker 1: he just, he's such a love.
- 19:25Speaker 2: It's the love of football to him. I don't know.
- 19:29Speaker 1: I thought Jalen Carter with the number fifth pick was
- 19:32Speaker 1: the pick that Seattle should have taken. Um, he went,
- 19:35Speaker 1: he ended up going nine to the Eagles, right?
- 19:37Speaker 2: Yep.
- 19:38Speaker 1: And he's the highest paid defensive tackle.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Um, but I got to say it. If I had
- 19:44Speaker 1: a chance to go back and redo it, I wouldn't
- 19:46Speaker 1: do it. There's no way I can imagine the Seattle
- 19:48Speaker 1: Seahawks without Devin Witherspoon.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Wow.
- 19:51Speaker 1: I just absolutely love the way that guy competes, and
- 19:55Speaker 1: there's a damn good reason he's the teacher's pet. You
- 19:59Speaker 1: talked about in the summer. He's Mike McDonald's favorite player
- 20:01Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. There's plenty of signs to– He loves
- 20:05Speaker 1: people from Illinois. That's the real big factor.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Well, you know, we can't be perfect in all aspects. But, yeah,
- 20:16Speaker 1: I just think that the groundy cover. See, Seattle plays
- 20:18Speaker 1: a cover six. That's their number one coverage. And they're
- 20:23Speaker 1: always two or three, top three in the league in that.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Where it's a two-hive safety structure, so you don't have
- 20:31Speaker 1: either safety down to help. You're rolling one corner to
- 20:35Speaker 1: one side. It could be the boundary. It could be
- 20:37Speaker 1: the field. And then if you're in a quarterback meeting
- 20:40Speaker 1: room and we're talking and we're saying, let's say in college,
- 20:45Speaker 1: the University of Washington, we're saying, all right, freshman quarterbacks,
- 20:49Speaker 1: so that you can understand defensive identification. Let's draw up
- 20:53Speaker 1: cover six. Where are they strong? Okay, they're strong to
- 20:56Speaker 1: the flat, to the side that they roll, what have you.
- 21:00Speaker 1: And we could go through the strengths and weaknesses. And
- 21:02Speaker 1: then you say to a freshman, what's the one area
- 21:05Speaker 1: that they're weak at? And you say the strong flat.
- 21:10Speaker 1: To the strong side of the formation or to the field,
- 21:14Speaker 1: that strong flat player because he's got to cover so
- 21:16Speaker 1: much ground. So when you see cover six, just know
- 21:20Speaker 1: that they are going to be vulnerable in the strong flat.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Here's the problem for pro quarterbacks going against the Seahawks.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon is in the strong flat. And he has
- 21:31Speaker 1: the turbo button. and he doesn't miss tackles and he will,
- 21:35Speaker 1: he'll know the plays going there before you, you even
- 21:38Speaker 1: have made your decision and he'll already be one step ahead.
- 21:42Speaker 1: And then once, and once he gets going, he doesn't
- 21:44Speaker 1: need to break down. He's such a, he's such an
- 21:47Speaker 1: instinctive tackler that he, he, he doesn't need to come
- 21:50Speaker 1: to balance. He just comes in and chops you down
- 21:52Speaker 1: at full speed. Like, like he, he, he is such
- 21:55Speaker 1: a full force multiplier because of how he makes everybody
- 21:59Speaker 1: else around the team better, both in the, in, in
- 22:03Speaker 1: the manner in how he leads and competes, but in
- 22:06Speaker 1: the manner how he takes a weak defense and he neutralizes,
- 22:11Speaker 1: he erases the weakness of the coverage.
- 22:14Speaker 2: Yeah. I love him too.
- 22:15Speaker 1: And it was happening yesterday.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:17Speaker 1: This is not like in theory. This is on the
- 22:19Speaker 1: tape from yesterday.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. I love him too, but he might not
- 22:24Speaker 2: be my favorite defender. Number three was on the field
- 22:28Speaker 2: for a little bit yesterday. What did you see from
- 22:31Speaker 2: him in the little time that he was out there?
- 22:33Speaker 2: And what's he going to add to this team by
- 22:36Speaker 2: next week?
- 22:38Speaker 1: They are fixing to unleash the Eamon Worry as the
- 22:43Speaker 1: edge pass rusher. And he did some of that yesterday.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And he hadn't done it but a couple times. They
- 22:50Speaker 1: took Trey McBride. This is on a four-man rush. And
- 22:54Speaker 1: they took Trey McBride, and they had him blocking Eamon
- 22:58Speaker 1: Worre as a rusher.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Think about that.
- 23:03Speaker 1: And by the way, the Seahawks, they had three guys
- 23:10Speaker 1: rushing to that side. So the Cardinals sent their center
- 23:14Speaker 1: to the right towards the Eamon Worre side. So they
- 23:18Speaker 1: had three for three. The center could take the defensive tackle,
- 23:23Speaker 1: and then the tackle could take the end, and then
- 23:27Speaker 1: him as the linebacker coming off the edge. They had
- 23:30Speaker 1: three for three, and yet they chose to keep in
- 23:34Speaker 1: McBride so that they could double-team with the right tackle
- 23:39Speaker 1: and with Trey McBride on Eamon Worry, the pass rusher. Oh,
- 23:44Speaker 1: by the way, Dante Fowler, he showed some twitch, so
- 23:47Speaker 1: that's going to come to life, too. there'll be a
- 23:51Speaker 1: day where Dante Fowler is going to get a sack
- 23:53Speaker 1: or two in a big moment. And that speed rush
- 23:56Speaker 1: that he's coming off. So, but back to Eamon Worry,
- 23:59Speaker 1: he played off ball linebacker and he diagnosed a play
- 24:04Speaker 1: and stuff it. So there was a physicality to him.
- 24:08Speaker 1: He didn't really make any impact in coverage. He had
- 24:12Speaker 1: a ball completed in front of him to McBride where
- 24:14Speaker 1: he was kind of, kind of twists around in space
- 24:17Speaker 1: a little bit there. So I think he's just kicking
- 24:19Speaker 1: off some rust. But they're showing this pass rush element
- 24:24Speaker 1: to him at a 220-pound guy with that kind of
- 24:26Speaker 1: length and that kind of speed.
- 24:28Speaker 2: So, you know, buckle up.
- 24:31Speaker 1: The Eamon Worry ride is just beginning.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense looked so sluggish yesterday, you know, so
- 24:39Speaker 2: they could really use the help.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Look, it's so fun to just watch this team. They're
- 24:47Speaker 1: so well coached. They cover for each other. I mean,
- 24:50Speaker 1: you got out there. I mean, it's like it doesn't
- 24:53Speaker 1: matter who they put out. If they put them on
- 24:55Speaker 1: the field, they've already passed the Mike McDonald litmus test.
- 24:59Speaker 1: He's smart enough to play for me. He's fundamental enough
- 25:03Speaker 1: to play for me. And if he's deficient in an area,
- 25:06Speaker 1: I'll cover his ass. I'll make sure that I don't
- 25:09Speaker 1: expose his weaknesses. I mean, it's just beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful.
- 25:13Speaker 2: 30 seconds, one minute on this, but Anders and I
- 25:16Speaker 2: were talking off the air, like Buda Baker, I have
- 25:19Speaker 2: a feeling Mike McDonald would love a Buda Baker type
- 25:23Speaker 2: on his defense.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Well, I saw myself, this happens with the Cardinals. It
- 25:29Speaker 1: only happens with the Cardinals. I asked myself, what the,
- 25:33Speaker 1: what freaking coverage is that? And I, I have to
- 25:36Speaker 1: run it back like three or four times because I
- 25:38Speaker 1: swear they just, they, they will run zone cover and
- 25:41Speaker 1: they'll just give him free license to go wherever the
- 25:44Speaker 1: hell he wants. Just go sniff out the ball. I
- 25:47Speaker 1: did that in youth football. Once I had a kid
- 25:49Speaker 1: where I, I said, all right, I'm going to draw
- 25:51Speaker 1: a 10 man defense where I've got every gap covered
- 25:55Speaker 1: and I've, I've got every zone covered in pass as
- 25:58Speaker 1: if there's only 10 men allowed. And then my best player,
- 26:01Speaker 1: I'm going to say, you have no gap. You have
- 26:03Speaker 1: no zone. You have no man. You go wherever the
- 26:05Speaker 1: hell you want to go. Wherever you think the ball
- 26:09Speaker 1: is going, you just go. You have no responsibility other
- 26:13Speaker 1: than just find the ball. And I did that with youth.
- 26:17Speaker 1: It was freaking great. And I feel like the Cardinals
- 26:19Speaker 1: do that with Buda Baker.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Because there's stuff.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Like, what the hell is that? Mike McDonald would love
- 26:28Speaker 1: Buda Baker. He's a burning competitor, even for that Morbin franchise.
- 26:36Speaker 1: And he's smart. He's a great tackler. He throws his
- 26:41Speaker 1: body around like, oh, man. Um, you know, and, and
- 26:45Speaker 1: a really great guy. So yeah, Buda Baker, the pride,
- 26:48Speaker 1: we got some four to five and some two Oh
- 26:50Speaker 1: six pride for, for Buda Baker, for sure. It's well-earned
- 26:53Speaker 1: and well-deserved and it's fun to watch him, uh, lose
- 26:57Speaker 1: games to the Seahawks, but compete his ass off.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Uh, well, and our last, uh, question I have for
- 27:02Speaker 2: you here this morning, then, um, UW feeling better about
- 27:06Speaker 2: the team. What do you think?
- 27:07Speaker 1: Well, in prior media guides up to about 2012, Washington would,
- 27:16Speaker 1: they would kind of justifiably they would bark about the
- 27:20Speaker 1: fact that they had never played an FCS team. And
- 27:25Speaker 1: at the time they said there were one of four
- 27:27Speaker 1: teams in all of division one football has never played
- 27:31Speaker 1: an FCS team in history. And now that distinction only
- 27:36Speaker 1: belongs to USC. So I will, tip my hat to
- 27:40Speaker 1: USC that they've preserved that Washington let that go in
- 27:43Speaker 1: about 2012. I think it was against Eastern. So my point,
- 27:47Speaker 1: that was not that long ago. That was in 1972.
- 27:50Speaker 1: That was 2012. So where I'm getting at is when
- 27:54Speaker 1: you play a body bag game against an FCS opponent,
- 27:59Speaker 1: you lose the right. You forfeit the right to, to
- 28:04Speaker 1: claim any type of, of, uh, of, progress or success
- 28:10Speaker 1: in the game. The only thing that could happen is
- 28:13Speaker 1: that your standing is diminished. You cannot enhance your standing,
- 28:18Speaker 1: in my opinion, when you're playing FCS. So to me,
- 28:21Speaker 1: it's just like an inter-squad scrimmage, as these games usually are. Now,
- 28:28Speaker 1: the one thing, they may have derived some confidence in
- 28:30Speaker 1: us because it was nice to see the offense do
- 28:34Speaker 1: some things. But in terms of any kind of real compliments,
- 28:38Speaker 1: particularly in light of last year, DeMond Williams and the
- 28:42Speaker 1: offense together, whether you want to say the quarterback or
- 28:44Speaker 1: the offense together, they had the biggest gap between how
- 28:47Speaker 1: they played against top 25 teams and how they played
- 28:50Speaker 1: against everybody else. They had the largest gap in all
- 28:52Speaker 1: of power forward football. You would expect everybody's going to
- 28:55Speaker 1: drop a little bit against top 25, right? But Washington
- 29:00Speaker 1: dropped the most, and that's objectively provable. And so now
- 29:05Speaker 1: to have a good game against an FCS opponent when
- 29:08Speaker 1: barely more than a decade ago you were saying we'll
- 29:11Speaker 1: never play those kind of games.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not going to drive any positivity out of it.
- 29:18Speaker 1: You just say, well, you avoided any negativity. And that's,
- 29:21Speaker 1: to me, all that you're entitled to if you play
- 29:24Speaker 1: an FCS game.
- 29:25Speaker 2: I don't know, though, Hugh. I think Oregon came off
- 29:27Speaker 2: really classy over the weekend.
- 29:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:30Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Maybe there is something to
- 29:34Speaker 2: be taken.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Well, I don't know all the details. I know Dante
- 29:39Speaker 1: Moore does. not throw a pass in the second half,
- 29:43Speaker 1: but I also know that they score 29 seconds to
- 29:45Speaker 1: go when they could have taken a knee.
- 29:48Speaker 2: I think so. Yes.
- 29:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:50Speaker 2: Yeah. 84, nothing in the final.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Well, here's the one way I would say that I,
- 29:56Speaker 1: I would be okay with, um, 84 to nothing. Um, you,
- 30:01Speaker 1: If you're playing your second and then third and then
- 30:04Speaker 1: your fourth string and you're running the ball, again, running
- 30:08Speaker 1: the ball, other than if you've got a third string
- 30:10Speaker 1: quarterback and you do a little ball possession, it's third
- 30:13Speaker 1: and five and we want to keep the possession, so
- 30:16Speaker 1: we'll throw a seven-yard out route, a ball possession completion.
- 30:19Speaker 1: But if you're throwing the ball deep down the field,
- 30:23Speaker 1: and certainly if you're not taking a knee with 29
- 30:26Speaker 1: seconds to go, Um, but, but if there, if fourth
- 30:30Speaker 1: stringers are running around in and scoring touchdowns, then I
- 30:35Speaker 1: think most coaches would be okay with, you know, even
- 30:38Speaker 1: if you're on the losing end of that, I mean,
- 30:40Speaker 1: Portland state, I guess they only got 500 grand out
- 30:43Speaker 1: of this thing. You know, some of these body bag
- 30:44Speaker 1: games are closer to 2 million, but I don't know
- 30:46Speaker 1: what the price I'm just going off word of mouth, but,
- 30:50Speaker 1: but at any event, we know that, that that was
- 30:52Speaker 1: a paycheck game. And, you know, even their head coach
- 30:56Speaker 1: would say, hey, if you got your third or fourth
- 30:58Speaker 1: stringers and you're just running the ball and you keep scoring,
- 31:00Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold that against you. Now, if
- 31:03Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball deep and, you know, and you're
- 31:06Speaker 1: not taking a knee at the end, yeah, yeah. that
- 31:09Speaker 1: that's an ugly score.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Yep. Yep. All right, man. Awesome stuff today. Thank you
- 31:13Speaker 2: very much. Appreciate it.
- 31:14Speaker 1: So good to be with you. Fun to watch this
- 31:16Speaker 1: football team.
- 31:16Speaker 2: There he is. Our QB one, Hugh Millen, Monday morning quarterback,
- 31:21Speaker 2: first official regular season, Monday, Monday morning quarterback is now
- 31:25Speaker 2: in the books and a plus a plus grades all around.
- 31:28Speaker 1: All right, we'll close out the show.
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- 32:14Speaker 2: the show. Then we're going to hand things off to
- 32:16Speaker 2: Greg Bell, who will be broadcasting from Arizona before hopping
- 32:20Speaker 2: on a flight to return home. So he's coming up
- 32:23Speaker 2: next with Jessamyn McIntyre. And so we close things out
- 32:27Speaker 2: with one last thing. We go around the room. Could
- 32:31Speaker 2: be on anything. I mean, you got some Seahawks stuff
- 32:33Speaker 2: left over. You can do that. But it really isn't
- 32:36Speaker 2: up to the individual what you want to bring up
- 32:39Speaker 2: to close out the show. What do you got, Andrew?
- 32:41Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, last night, there was a lot of
- 32:43Speaker 5: impressive parts about the Kansas City Chiefs win. And we
- 32:47Speaker 5: all know Travis Kelsey's greatness. But the fact that he
- 32:50Speaker 5: broke the record for most... Yards after the catch in
- 32:55Speaker 5: NFL history.
- 32:56Speaker 2: Wow.
- 32:56Speaker 5: As a tight end. A guy you don't normally think
- 33:00Speaker 5: of in that aspect of the game, but he now
- 33:02Speaker 5: has the most. He just passed Marshall Falk last night
- 33:04Speaker 5: in the game. And just.
- 33:07Speaker 5: That guy, he's special. He's coming to the end of
- 33:10Speaker 5: his career. He looked good, though. He's looked good in
- 33:12Speaker 5: these first couple games.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Much different.
- 33:13Speaker 1: He looks back.
- 33:14Speaker 5: Very much back.
- 33:15Speaker 2: I think he got some of them expensive Hollywood steroid
- 33:19Speaker 2: things that are floating around from his life. That's what
- 33:22Speaker 2: I think happened.
- 33:22Speaker 5: Either that or he got in wedding shape. Like, yeah,
- 33:26Speaker 5: for his wedding. And then you just like, you know what?
- 33:27Speaker 5: That's perfect. Football season's coming along right after that. So, no,
- 33:31Speaker 5: I mean, like, and you look at the list, Travis Kelsey,
- 33:33Speaker 5: Marshall Falk, Larry centers, Terrell Owens, Steve Smith and Larry Fitzgerald.
- 33:36Speaker 5: It's all running backs or wide receivers. And that would
- 33:38Speaker 5: make sense because it's like screens. Short passes, then you
- 33:41Speaker 5: run after the catch. But a tight end being at
- 33:44Speaker 5: the top, like a guy that you throw touchdowns to
- 33:47Speaker 5: or short-yarded situations, it's just another tick in the greatness
- 33:52Speaker 5: and probably the best tight end of all time.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's a little scary. I don't know
- 33:56Speaker 2: if Ken Walker is the ingredient that unleashed it or
- 33:59Speaker 2: if those two took a different approach in the offseason
- 34:02Speaker 2: or Andy Reid did some soul-searching, but the Chiefs look back.
- 34:05Speaker 2: Mahomes look back. Even before the injury, he didn't look
- 34:10Speaker 2: that good. Right.
- 34:10Speaker 1: It's true.
- 34:11Speaker 2: And Kelsey looked like he did.
- 34:13Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 34:14Speaker 2: And he looked like 2022 Travis Kelsey. Oh, yeah. And
- 34:18Speaker 2: then Walker looked sensational. So, I don't know. Maybe the
- 34:21Speaker 2: Chiefs are back.
- 34:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:22Speaker 2: You know, that long, arduous year of not being great.
- 34:27Speaker 1: So terrible.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Poor Chiefs fans. They really did suffer. Travis, what's your
- 34:31Speaker 2: one last thing?
- 34:32Speaker 6: I just wanted to recognize everyone that worked so hard
- 34:35Speaker 6: at the station over the weekend. We had four continuous
- 34:40Speaker 6: broadcasts going at the same time. I was running the Kraken.
- 34:45Speaker 6: Anders was running Husky Post Game.
- 34:46Speaker 5: With my son.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
- 34:47Speaker 5: In studio.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Oh, jeez.
- 34:49Speaker 1: I got to meet Austin.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Good.
- 34:51Speaker 6: He hammed it up for me. And then we had
- 34:54Speaker 6: Craig doing Thunderbirds. and Jackson Feltz doing SounderStream, all at
- 35:01Speaker 6: the same time, and Terry Ryan behind the scenes making
- 35:03Speaker 6: it all happen.
- 35:04Speaker 5: Concurrently, yeah.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Busy time of the year.
- 35:06Speaker 5: That's Travis pumping his own horn saying, yeah, I didn't
- 35:08Speaker 5: get a day off. I worked on Saturday and Sunday,
- 35:10Speaker 5: and then I'm back in here for the morning show
- 35:12Speaker 5: on Monday.
- 35:12Speaker 2: I basically live here, yeah. Well, good thing we pay
- 35:17Speaker 2: you all that money. I don't even know what to
- 35:20Speaker 2: do with all the money you pay me.
- 35:23Speaker 5: It's a problem to have.
- 35:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and that applies to everyone here. Yeah, that's true.
- 35:28Speaker 2: I'm going to close out with this. I didn't watch
- 35:32Speaker 2: Ohio State versus Kent State over the weekend, but I'm
- 35:36Speaker 2: telling you, these are some of the best names that
- 35:38Speaker 2: have ever been on a college football roster. Kent State
- 35:43Speaker 2: has a guy named DeRealist Clark. Stop.
- 35:48Speaker 1: No, it's true. Look at the box score.
- 35:50Speaker 2: His parents clearly went out of the way, like, Derealist.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Derealist is his name. You are Derealist. You're the Derealist
- 36:02Speaker 2: son I've ever had. And then there's another guy named
- 36:08Speaker 2: Ethan Thanthanavong. Which sounds made up. Ethan Thanthanavong. And this guy, who,
- 36:24Speaker 2: by the way, at best, is getting the bronze medal
- 36:30Speaker 2: for strangest name on the team, Hunter Hopperton. It's true.
- 36:35Speaker 5: I'm looking at these names right now.
- 36:36Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have the entire roster in front
- 36:40Speaker 2: of me, but I know, from what I know about
- 36:43Speaker 2: Kent State football, that's going to finish third on the
- 36:47Speaker 2: most unusual names I've ever seen list. Good for you,
- 36:52Speaker 2: Kent State. That's like the Key and Peele skit.
- 36:55Speaker 5: That's what I was telling Chuck.
- 36:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:58Speaker 5: It's the funniest skits I've ever seen.
- 37:00Speaker 6: Hingle McCringleberry.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Hingle McCringleberry.
- 37:03Speaker 5: Michigan State.
- 37:04Speaker 2: Let's see if the NIL transfer portal here, if they've
- 37:08Speaker 2: got McCringleberry. Let me check the roster real quick. Nope.
- 37:13Speaker 2: Just a than-than-a-vong. Than-than-a-vong. All right. That'll do it for
- 37:19Speaker 2: us today. Thank you very much for joining us. Coming
- 37:22Speaker 2: up next here on the radio station, you've got Greg Bell,
- 37:26Speaker 2: you've got Jessamyn McIntyre. A lot of Seahawk Talk Sports
- 37:29Speaker 2: Radio 93.3 KJRFM.