Latest / Stagflation Conversations with Fexingo: High Inflation, Slow Growth, and 1970s Echoes / The Gendered Wage Gap in Stagflation
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- Lucas: If walking through the economy with us has made something click, consider that your vote of confidence. A couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these deep-dive episodes going without ads cluttering the signal. You can find us at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo if you want to help sustain the research. Luna: Thanks for supporting the show. It really does let us dig into the messy details instead of just skimming headlines. Lucas: Let's get back to the numbers. The August jobs report came out Friday, and on the surface, it looks robust. Payrolls rose one hundred sixty-two thousand, beating expectations, and the unemployment rate held flat at four point one percent. But if you look closer at who actually filled those seats, the picture gets strangely lopsided. Luna: Right, because women accounted for almost all of the job gains. Men’s employment barely budged, or even dipped slightly depending on which revision you trust. Lucas: Exactly. And in a normal expansion, you want to see broad-based strength. When you have one demographic carrying the entire load, it suggests the demand is coming from very specific corners of the economy. Given where we are with core CPI holding near three thirty-six and real GDP growth slowing to one point five percent, this isn't just noise. It's a structural signal. Luna: So you're saying this divergence is actually a symptom of the stagflationary environment itself? Lucas: I am. Let's look at the sectors. The jobs that were added were heavily concentrated in healthcare, social assistance, and professional services. These are traditionally female-dominated fields. Meanwhile, the sectors that typically drive male employment—construction, mining, and manufacturing—were either flat or negative. Why would businesses hire more nurses and admin staff while pulling back on building sites and factory lines during a period of persistent inflation? Luna: Because healthcare is less cyclical? Even when the economy slows, people still need medical care. Construction and housing, on the other hand, are extremely sensitive to interest rates. Lucas: Precisely. And that's the crux of it. We've had high interest rates for a while now, suppressing capital-intensive projects. That hurts the male-heavy sectors first. But consumer services, especially essential ones like healthcare, continue to generate cash flow. So companies in those sectors keep hiring. It creates this weird echo chamber where the labor market looks healthy overall, but the underlying engine is shifting away from industrial output toward service consumption. Luna: But doesn't that mean wages might rise faster in those service sectors, fueling the very inflation we're worried about? Lucas: That is the fear. Average hourly earnings for private workers went up to thirty-seven point eight dollars in August. If the only places adding jobs are those that require human labor and can't easily automate away their staffing needs, you get upward pressure on costs. And since those costs don't come from supply chain shocks anymore, they come from labor scarcity in specific niches. Luna: It feels like the old rule book for inflation is broken. Usually, you see a wage-price spiral across the board, not just in one demographic or sector. Lucas: Right. In the seventies, you saw blue-collar unions negotiating raises that dragged everyone else up. Today, the divide is sharper. Men in trade roles aren't seeing the same leverage because there's less construction work to go around. Women in care roles are seeing demand outstrip supply, so employers have to offer better pay to attract them. It's a fragmented inflationary pressure. Luna: So the Fed is looking at a headline unemployment rate that says everything is fine, while the composition of the labor market tells a story of stress in specific areas. Lucas: Exactly. And that makes policy incredibly hard. Governor Waller indicated he'll support holding rates steady at the September meeting. But if they cut too early, they risk igniting that service-sector wage spiral. If they wait too long, they might crush the remaining industrial activity that men rely on. Luna: It seems like a lose-lose for the average worker, regardless of gender. One side gets squeezed by lack of opportunity, the other by rising costs. Lucas: That's a fair way to put it. And it ties back to our earlier discussion about the bond market. Investors are pricing in twenty-three and a half percent breakeven inflation. They know the Fed is trapped. They also know that this gendered split in hiring isn't going to resolve itself quickly because the demographic shifts in the workforce are long-term. Luna: Wait, how do demographics play into this? Isn't this mostly about current economic conditions? Lucas: Partly. But the aging population means demand for healthcare is structurally higher than it was ten years ago. That's a secular tailwind for female employment. At the same time, fewer young men are entering trades compared to previous generations, which tightens the supply in those male-heavy sectors even as demand falls. It's a double squeeze. Luna: So the jobs report is telling us that the economy is bifurcating. Service vs. Goods. Female vs. Male. High cost vs. Low volume. Lucas: Yes. And investors need to stop looking at the headline number. One hundred sixty-two thousand sounds great until you realize ninety percent of it came from two or three sectors. If you're investing in industrials, this is bad news. If you're in healthcare REITs or staffing firms, it's good news. Luna: It changes how you view corporate earnings too. Companies in those service sectors might have thinner margins due to wage pressure, but they have volume. Industrial companies have volume stability but no growth. Lucas: Correct. And remember, nominal GDP is over thirty-two trillion dollars, but real growth is just one point five percent. That gap is pure inflation. The economy is getting bigger in dollar terms, but not in actual output. That's the definition of stagflationary drift. Luna: So when you say 'drift,' you mean it's not a crash, it's just a slow erosion of purchasing power for most people. Lucas: Exactly. Your paycheck might be up a few percent, but if your rent and insurance are up five, you're losing ground. And since the jobs are concentrated in certain areas, many people simply aren't feeling the benefit of the one hundred sixty-two thousand new hires. Luna: It makes me wonder if this trend will accelerate once the Fed finally cuts rates. Will that bring back the industrial jobs? Lucas: Maybe, but slowly. Interest rate cuts take time to filter through to construction permits and equipment orders. The healthcare demand is immediate. So I expect this divergence to persist for at least another year, maybe longer. Luna: Long enough for the political ramifications to start showing up in polling data. Lucas: Absolutely. Labor satisfaction is already low among men in traditional roles. If that widens, it becomes a political issue, not just an economic one. But for us, it's a reminder to look beneath the surface of every monthly report. Luna: The surface is always smoother than the reality underneath. Thanks for breaking this down, Lucas. Lucas: Anytime. The question now is whether the Fed can navigate this fragmentation without triggering a full-blown recession in the industrial heartland.