Latest / Brian Thomas / Signal 99 - Biased Campaign Zero Report
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's seven oh six here, fifty five carc Detalk Station.
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- 0:17Speaker 1: a conglomerate of folks that have inside information about some
- 0:21Speaker 1: of the shenanigans that are going, which I like to
- 0:22Speaker 1: call it in since they and the Fire Department, the
- 0:24Speaker 1: police Department, and of course City City Hall, Cheryl Long
- 0:28Speaker 1: Iris Rolie and the like. Welcome back Signal ninety nine
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- 0:55Speaker 1: on and real quick before we dive on into this
- 0:57Speaker 1: alleged bias that Campaigns zero described as a nonprofit organization
- 1:02Speaker 1: who looked at seventeen years worth of contact cards, finding
- 1:06Speaker 1: that the police department apparently is racist in its traffic stops.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I note that Christopher Smithman told me the city budget
- 1:14Speaker 1: Director set aside nine million dollars in the twenty twenty
- 1:18Speaker 1: seven budget for future litigation settlements. I guess that that
- 1:22Speaker 1: covers Chief Washington, but probably not enough for Police Chief
- 1:25Speaker 1: Fiji your reaction, I highly.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Doubt it will cover Chief Washington. There are some other
- 1:33Speaker 2: lawsuits that are getting ready to pop and they know it.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And that's okay, you know why, because Farmer Music Center
- 1:39Speaker 1: is getting two million dollars from the City of Cincinnati
- 1:42Speaker 1: for the music center that didn't ask for that money
- 1:44Speaker 1: in the first place, as far as we know. Anyway,
- 1:46Speaker 1: let's pivot over the operation. This nonprofit called themselves Campaign zero,
- 1:51Speaker 1: and they released this damning report showing the racial disparity
- 1:54Speaker 1: and the number of people being stopped by the CINCINNTI police,
- 1:57Speaker 1: And like they even point out, you know, and weirdly
- 2:00Speaker 1: that even in white neighborhoods where white people have the
- 2:04Speaker 1: predominant amount of people. Black people were the minority, they
- 2:07Speaker 1: still pulled over more black people than whites. I'll let
- 2:09Speaker 1: you address all this, but I want to start with
- 2:11Speaker 1: the foundation. Now, contact cards. Those are what this organization
- 2:18Speaker 1: looked at. And according to the reporting from various local
- 2:20Speaker 1: news media outlets, four hundred and seventy thousand of these
- 2:24Speaker 1: contact cards were looked for looked at, and they cover
- 2:27Speaker 1: the period two thousand and nine to twenty twenty five
- 2:30Speaker 1: that's relinked at some point or originally to the collaborative agreement.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Can you just explain to me and my listening audience
- 2:36Speaker 1: what is the point of these contact cards and what
- 2:39Speaker 1: type of information that they that they include, and why
- 2:41Speaker 1: they are required to be created by the police department.
- 2:46Speaker 2: So law enforcement has predominantly used FIR contact cards forever.
- 2:54Speaker 2: It's not just Cincinnati, it's all over the country. It's
- 3:00Speaker 2: it's been a practice that's been used. If you make
- 3:03Speaker 2: contact with somebody, maybe you don't maybe you decide not
- 3:07Speaker 2: to cite them for something. Okay, So like even a
- 3:11Speaker 2: park ranger catching somebody in the park doing something suspicious,
- 3:17Speaker 2: you know, they might walk up to him and say hello, sir,
- 3:20Speaker 2: you know, how are you today? You know your dog's
- 3:23Speaker 2: not on a leash. I'm not going to cite to
- 3:25Speaker 2: you today, but I need to see your ide. They're
- 3:28Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna fill out an fi R. They're going
- 3:31Speaker 2: to fill out the contact skilled, an information report, okay,
- 3:34Speaker 2: a contact card. Basically, what that does is, you know,
- 3:39Speaker 2: that gets saved and then later on if if you
- 3:43Speaker 2: have a problem with this individual later you could say, oh, yeah,
- 3:48Speaker 2: we have a couple of different contact cards of this
- 3:51Speaker 2: guy in this neighborhood at the same time we had
- 3:56Speaker 2: a ration of burglary is going on, so they can
- 3:58Speaker 2: look at that later and say, you know this, this
- 4:02Speaker 2: could be, you know, a suspect. This could not be
- 4:06Speaker 2: a suspect. This could just be you know, an informational
- 4:10Speaker 2: contact like hey, I'm just giving you a heads up
- 4:12Speaker 2: you can't park here, or hey, you know so, typically
- 4:16Speaker 2: you'll get a contact card when you know there's there's
- 4:20Speaker 2: not going to be a citation. They're just interesting to
- 4:24Speaker 2: see what your activity is. Okay, and if you you know,
- 4:28Speaker 2: they're using the excuse it was, you know, even the
- 4:31Speaker 2: predominantly white neighborhood. Well okay, let's talk about that. What's happening.
- 4:37Speaker 2: What's happening all over the city, but in predominantly white
- 4:40Speaker 2: neighborhoods as well. You're having vehicles stolen, you're having handguns
- 4:44Speaker 2: stolen out of cars, You're having car windows broken and
- 4:48Speaker 2: things stolen. I mean down at the jail right now,
- 4:52Speaker 2: the porceas the deputies can't even park near the jail
- 4:57Speaker 2: because they don't have protected parking, and they're down there
- 5:00Speaker 2: breaking their windows out constantly because they know that these
- 5:06Speaker 2: deputies can't take their handguns into the jail, so they're
- 5:09Speaker 2: hoping to find guns in their cars. I mean, so
- 5:16Speaker 2: it doesn't matter where it's at. The problem is the
- 5:20Speaker 2: data slot. The data slot, because first of all, they
- 5:24Speaker 2: went off of a twenty twenty consensus, which is ridiculous.
- 5:29Speaker 3: You never do that.
- 5:31Speaker 2: You never do that.
- 5:33Speaker 3: You you you don't look at potentially tourism type population
- 5:43Speaker 3: and you you don't add that in, and you don't use.
- 5:46Speaker 2: A consensus year. If they if they did a consensus
- 5:51Speaker 2: year this next time, it wouldn't go as favorably for them,
- 5:54Speaker 2: would it.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Well explain that to me, what is what is this
- 5:57Speaker 1: consensus thing, this consensus year? Why is that not a
- 6:01Speaker 1: reliable document, or what is it comprised of? Just fill
- 6:04Speaker 1: in that blank for me and my listening audience.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Well, if you look at our at a twenty twenty
- 6:10Speaker 2: consensus year, what was included in the twenty twenty consensus
- 6:14Speaker 2: that wouldn't be included in the next consensus according to law,
- 6:19Speaker 2: you wouldn't have illegal that would be counted on the census.
- 6:23Speaker 2: First of all, you wouldn't have it also shouldn't include
- 6:29Speaker 2: a tourist population that's in and out of the city.
- 6:32Speaker 2: It wouldn't you know, it wouldn't include events and things
- 6:37Speaker 2: of that nature that were big in twenty twenty. We
- 6:41Speaker 2: had a lot of people in twenty twenty that didn't
- 6:44Speaker 2: live in Cincinnati that specifically came to Cincinnati to prices.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So it's in apples the oranges comparison. You can't use
- 6:54Speaker 1: that particular document because it doesn't accurately reflect the reality
- 6:58Speaker 1: of what we see day in and day out there
- 7:00Speaker 1: throughout a calendar year in the city exactly.
- 7:03Speaker 2: You know, we had a massive year protest that year,
- 7:07Speaker 2: So a lot of the people that were given contact
- 7:10Speaker 2: cards that year didn't even live here protest, They came
- 7:13Speaker 2: here to riot it. Okay, So okay, so let's set
- 7:17Speaker 2: that piece aside and let's focus on the officers and
- 7:24Speaker 2: the supervisors that they picked on in this report. First
- 7:28Speaker 2: of all, these are officers and supervisors that are assigned
- 7:34Speaker 2: to violent crime squads. They are assigned to uh SIGI.
- 7:43Speaker 2: You remember what CIG stands for.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Now, go ahead and explain.
- 7:48Speaker 2: Okay, there they're they're they're they're assigned to the gun
- 7:52Speaker 2: crime unit. They're assigned to guns and gangs. They're assigned
- 7:56Speaker 2: to these are they are UH directed patrols into high
- 8:02Speaker 2: violence areas. Okay, high crimerian. So these officers are going
- 8:08Speaker 2: to have more contact with people of color in these
- 8:18Speaker 2: areas because they're they're working. They're working gangs, they're working guns,
- 8:22Speaker 2: they're working violent crime. So that right there, to just
- 8:29Speaker 2: completely wipe this out, that this whole thing is for nothing.
- 8:33Speaker 2: And do you know why the timing of it is
- 8:36Speaker 2: so important that it just came out?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Oh do tell signal ninety nine.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Well, it's a big election year for Cincinnati. So Judge
- 8:47Speaker 2: Carrie Bloom has a has Susan Lucan running against her.
- 8:53Speaker 2: People are sick and tired of these out of control juveniles.
- 8:57Speaker 2: They want to vote for a change. They want to
- 8:59Speaker 2: get of Carrie Bloom. They want to put a judge
- 9:03Speaker 2: in there who wants to re establish law and order
- 9:07Speaker 2: in the juvenile court system. The public defenders do not
- 9:10Speaker 2: want that. The Public Defender's Office loves Judge Carrie Bloom
- 9:15Speaker 2: and Judge Silverstein and Judge Cross and all these other
- 9:19Speaker 2: judges that are political ideology judges. They're social workers in robes,
- 9:24Speaker 2: so they can't handle even the thought of losing carry Bloom.
- 9:32Speaker 1: I see, so you've already answered the question was going
- 9:36Speaker 1: to ask you during this segment. We've got to take
- 9:37Speaker 1: a break here in a moment. But it was the
- 9:39Speaker 1: Hamilton County Public Defender's Office, apparently at least a cord
- 9:42Speaker 1: of the reporting on reading for Fox nineteen, that asked
- 9:45Speaker 1: this outside organization to do the survey. At the outset,
- 9:48Speaker 1: I was wondering, why does the Hamilton County Public Defender's
- 9:51Speaker 1: Office one have the authority to even ask for it?
- 9:53Speaker 1: And what was their interest in this? There's your answer,
- 9:57Speaker 1: it's politics.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Well at number two, iris throw it sits on the
- 10:01Speaker 2: commissioning board of the Hamleton County Public Defender's Office.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Well, how about that and the special that's so special
- 10:10Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, I got to say that doesn't surprise
- 10:12Speaker 1: me a bit. Hold on Signal ninety nine. We're going
- 10:13Speaker 1: to bring it back to talk about this a little
- 10:15Speaker 1: bit more. And it just suggests that maybe in these
- 10:17Speaker 1: trying times, maybe a little prayer might be necessary for
- 10:20Speaker 1: more people. You know, you might want to consider that
- 10:23Speaker 1: reconnecting with God. And regardless of your.
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- 10:35Speaker 1: details and information. She broke down all everything she's mentioning
- 10:38Speaker 1: on this program on the outside nonprofit Racial Bias Report,
- 10:43Speaker 1: which makes the police department look terribly racist in terms
- 10:46Speaker 1: of pulling people over for traffic stops. But it's far
- 10:49Speaker 1: more than that, as she pointed out in the last segment,
- 10:52Speaker 1: you got to take into account that, you know, and
- 10:54Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that they identified officers by name.
- 10:57Speaker 1: That's an intimidation tactic, isn't it, Signal ninety nine. It
- 11:00Speaker 1: seems so obvious and it seems designed to well, you
- 11:03Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to be named in some
- 11:04Speaker 1: outside non governmental organizations report as being a bad guy,
- 11:08Speaker 1: even though the only reason I had so many of
- 11:11Speaker 1: these individuals on my contact sheet list is because I
- 11:14Speaker 1: have been assigned to one of the more difficult details,
- 11:17Speaker 1: dealing with gang members. So I find that really troubling.
- 11:21Speaker 1: It's sort of like an anti ice tactic. I mean,
- 11:23Speaker 1: do you perceive that as part of the underlying motivation
- 11:26Speaker 1: for mentioning names Signal ninety nine?
- 11:29Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? And that the problem is like the number
- 11:32Speaker 2: one most egregious supervisor on the list didn't have a
- 11:35Speaker 2: single contact card. Okay, these are supervisors, these are sergeants,
- 11:40Speaker 2: these are captains, a couple of which are black, So
- 11:45Speaker 2: they didn't even have contact cards. But they know these
- 11:50Speaker 2: contacts happened under their watch. So but let's set that
- 11:55Speaker 2: aside for a minute. The point of all of this, okay,
- 11:58Speaker 2: and the timing coming into summer. Okay, So if if
- 12:04Speaker 2: we whip up some racial tension and Iris presents herself
- 12:09Speaker 2: as the savior to fix the solution, what does that
- 12:15Speaker 2: mean to you?
- 12:17Speaker 1: Well, it means that it's like doing a definition of stupidity,
- 12:20Speaker 1: doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a
- 12:22Speaker 1: different result. Wasn't she hasn't she been around for decades
- 12:25Speaker 1: fixing the problem. Has the problem been fixed me as directly?
- 12:31Speaker 2: So if this, if this report is accurate, which is
- 12:35Speaker 2: clearly is not, okay, then Iris Rowley has failed the
- 12:40Speaker 2: city of Cincinnati for over twenty five years. We paid
- 12:44Speaker 2: her million dollars to do something she wasn't able to do.
- 12:48Speaker 2: But now all of a sudden, her and Damon Lynch
- 12:51Speaker 2: the third they have a new program they're starting up.
- 12:54Speaker 2: They're going to fix all of it. So uh, and
- 12:58Speaker 2: that just came right on, like two days after the
- 13:02Speaker 2: report broke. Now there, you know, are you non biased?
- 13:05Speaker 2: You should? You should instant message me. You could be
- 13:08Speaker 2: part of this new you know, give me a break.
- 13:11Speaker 2: So let's say, let's just go ahead and say what
- 13:14Speaker 2: nobody else wants to say. Okay. Uh, violent crime has
- 13:21Speaker 2: an overwhelmingly high number of black males and female adult
- 13:28Speaker 2: and juvenile that commit violent crime in the city, Okay,
- 13:34Speaker 2: much more so than any other race. What they don't say,
- 13:39Speaker 2: what they refused to say, is that the victims of
- 13:43Speaker 2: these black offenders are predominantly black. So the black communities
- 13:49Speaker 2: are the ones getting hammered the hardest by the black criminals.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Nobody's protecting the black communities. And that's what Iris Rowley
- 13:57Speaker 2: is supposed to be doing, us to be helping create
- 14:03Speaker 2: solutions and black communities to quell violent clont crime, to
- 14:08Speaker 2: keep the juveniles under control, you know, to make the
- 14:12Speaker 2: city come together with the CPD and work together to
- 14:17Speaker 2: fix this problem. There's no there. They don't want a solution.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Do you remember last year when we blew up the
- 14:24Speaker 2: videos of Iris obstructing and harassing CPD officers?
- 14:29Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, okay?
- 14:31Speaker 2: Do you remember we called for her termination of her contract.
- 14:36Speaker 2: The FOP was very vocal about.
- 14:39Speaker 3: That as well, do you you absolutely?
- 14:42Speaker 2: Okay? Well, the Hamilton County Public Defender's Office did a
- 14:45Speaker 2: post we scand with Irish Rowly. You know what I mean?
- 14:51Speaker 2: What does that tell you?
- 14:53Speaker 1: Well, and I'm glad you you brought back up the
- 14:55Speaker 1: Hamilton County Public Defender's Office and I guess they're concerned
- 15:00Speaker 1: over perhaps the loss of Carrie Bloom, the administrative judge
- 15:03Speaker 1: ever in juvenile who is soft on crime. Well just
- 15:06Speaker 1: let's say it that way, and recognizing that black.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Well, they're terrified that that Christopher McDowell is going to
- 15:14Speaker 2: be elected.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Well, let me yeah, terrified that he's going to be
- 15:18Speaker 1: elected to defeating Carry Bloom, the liberal activist person that's
- 15:22Speaker 1: ahead of juvenile court. Now, recognizing and springing from your
- 15:26Speaker 1: point that the victims of these juvenile crimes are typically
- 15:29Speaker 1: black people, does that mean that black people want to
- 15:32Speaker 1: be harder and harsher on crime in the city of
- 15:35Speaker 1: Cincinnati because you need a sizeable black vote if you're
- 15:38Speaker 1: going to win an election, and there are a lot
- 15:40Speaker 1: of black people in the city of Cincinnati, are they
- 15:42Speaker 1: going to vote in large numbers to oust Carrie Bloom?
- 15:45Speaker 1: Is that what they're afraid of?
- 15:47Speaker 2: That is what they are absolutely terrified though? How about that?
- 15:52Speaker 2: You know last November they were worried about losing the
- 15:55Speaker 2: mayor and city council. So you know this year they're
- 16:00Speaker 2: worried about losing some of their judges.
- 16:02Speaker 1: All right, proving my point that yes, if you live
- 16:04Speaker 1: in a black neighborhood are proominately black neighborhood, you definitely
- 16:06Speaker 1: want law enforcement. You definitely want the evil people out
- 16:09Speaker 1: of the neighborhood. You don't want gangs of youths running
- 16:12Speaker 1: around regardless of the color of their skin. You just
- 16:14Speaker 1: want an end of the crime.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Huh.
- 16:16Speaker 1: That counters the narrative. We hear from the iris Rolies
- 16:19Speaker 1: of the world all the time, doesn't it.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Yes, it does. And you know it's sad because I
- 16:25Speaker 2: don't know when she sold her soul for the paychecks
- 16:29Speaker 2: that she's getting. But she is not an advocate for
- 16:32Speaker 2: the black community. She is an advocate for the Black
- 16:35Speaker 2: United Front and that is completely different.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Or maybe maybe she's an advocate for iris Rolie since
- 16:42Speaker 1: it's been very lucrative to be the fly in the
- 16:45Speaker 1: ointment for so many people in these various neighborhoods who
- 16:47Speaker 1: are just simply looking for law enforcement.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you watched this new program her and
- 16:53Speaker 2: David Leinster coming up with that's going to be very
- 16:56Speaker 2: lucrative too, and we're probably gonna end up paying for something.
- 17:00Speaker 1: That well, and you know where we're going to read
- 17:02Speaker 1: about it on Signal ninety nine's Facebook page. Thank you
- 17:05Speaker 1: so much for your time and for breaking this down
- 17:07Speaker 1: for my listening audience and me and I appreciate all
- 17:10Speaker 1: of your efforts on behalf of all of the residents
- 17:13Speaker 1: of the city in Cincinnati. What you are doing is
- 17:15Speaker 1: a noble gesture and well it seems consistent with what
- 17:18Speaker 1: the vast majority of the people in downtown want. They
- 17:20Speaker 1: want law enforcement, they want law and order, and I
- 17:22Speaker 1: know you support both of those, Signal ninety nine. Thank
- 17:24Speaker 1: you again for your time and your regular time on
- 17:27Speaker 1: Facebook and you're reporting, and I welcome you back on
- 17:29Speaker 1: the Morning Show anytime you got more scoop for us.
- 17:33Speaker 2: All Right, have a great day.
- 17:34Speaker 1: You do the same, folks, don't go away. Coming up next,
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