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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 167 | Trevor Lawrence, Week 2 Final Takes & the AFC South · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jack Zama.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of honesty Eves, Frian Sexton, and John Osier
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  Speaker 2: with me this morning as we get ready for a
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  Speaker 2: Week three matchup with the Texans. We're gonna go over
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  Speaker 2: our big things with you today, brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: federal employees and retiree.
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  Speaker 1: So big thing number one is aggressive, not reckless.
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  Speaker 2: After the game against the Bengals, head coach n and
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  Speaker 2: Cohen very adamant about going for it on fourth down
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  Speaker 2: in Bengals territory rather than taking the field goal when they.
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  Speaker 1: Had a three point lead.
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  Speaker 2: He said analytics said so, and that it's always.
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  Speaker 1: A go for him.
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  Speaker 2: He elaborated further on Monday about why he is always
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  Speaker 2: going to be aggressive with his team.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that was a combination of data and gut where
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  Speaker 3: you're saying, okay, who's on the other side, other quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: your opposing quarterback on the road, you know, to go
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  Speaker 3: up six there that we've watched that scenario play out
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  Speaker 3: too many times in my game management meeting for me
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  Speaker 3: to not feel one hundred percent confident with that decision.
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  Speaker 3: You watch so many opportunities where you do that, you take,
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  Speaker 3: you go up six, you kick it off. They get
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  Speaker 3: the ball at the plus thirty to thirty five yard line,
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  Speaker 3: and now their mindset is touchdown, and so you go
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  Speaker 3: down and they go down and score, and you lose
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  Speaker 3: by one point. You guys would all be killing me
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  Speaker 3: today anyway. So at the end of the day, I
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  Speaker 3: want to be aggressive and give ourselves a chance to
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  Speaker 3: go close games out on our terms.
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  Speaker 2: Jegglers weren't able to convert that fourth down, so obviously
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  Speaker 2: questions arise Brian when they lose a game like that,
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  Speaker 2: But he mentions, you know, analytics part of it, part
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  Speaker 2: of it's what the.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling of the game is. But reiterating that he wants
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  Speaker 1: to seem to be aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: At all times, Well, it was some questions rochecard because
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  Speaker 4: people just aren't used to that sort of aggressiveness. They're
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  Speaker 4: used to the conventional way of doing things. And he
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  Speaker 4: told us on the first drive of the season, when
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  Speaker 4: he went for it on fourth and one inside his own.
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  Speaker 5: Forty yard line, that he was going to be aggressive.
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  Speaker 4: He wants to trust his team and he wants his
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  Speaker 4: team to trust him. When John he decided he was
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  Speaker 4: going to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I went, Wow.
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  Speaker 4: But when you just took a minute to think about it,
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  Speaker 4: what he just explained, it made a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 4: And he had confidence in your defense. You had them
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  Speaker 4: backed up with a backup quarterback. They did get them
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  Speaker 4: to fourth down a couple of times. I love the
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  Speaker 4: aggressiveness and I love the fact that this guy, as
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  Speaker 4: his team improves, it's only going to take chances more often.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Do you remember the hue and cry and the outcry
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  Speaker 6: when he went for it on fourth and one in
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  Speaker 6: the opener? No, because it worked. I mean, and that's
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  Speaker 6: what happens. I the old school guy. I even said,
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  Speaker 6: he KaiA said this is a bad decision when he
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  Speaker 6: did it.
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  Speaker 5: But that's the old school guy.
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  Speaker 6: And I stepped back, and I realize the NFL these days,
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  Speaker 6: more and more, you assume the other team in that
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  Speaker 6: situation thirty five forty yard line late in the game,
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  Speaker 6: as he said, with the mindset of going for it
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  Speaker 6: means they're playing four downs. This is the way they
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  Speaker 6: play football in the NFL. Now, he's going to be aggressive.
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  Speaker 6: He's always going to do it. I've got a lot
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  Speaker 6: of ozone questions, Brian, and a lot of debate.
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  Speaker 5: You can end the debate. It's what he's gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, if Brian Thomas Junior catches the ball again, there's
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  Speaker 4: no debate about it at all.
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  Speaker 5: He called the right play.
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  Speaker 4: Kai he had it dialed up perfectly, and the quarterback
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  Speaker 4: put the ball there. Brian just didn't catch it. And
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to beat that horse because I know
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  Speaker 4: we're going to talk about that plenty, But the reality
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  Speaker 4: of it is is he made the right decision and
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  Speaker 4: he called the right play.
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  Speaker 5: It's just now about.
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  Speaker 2: Execution, Yes, all about execution. Some changes here in Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 2: So it's nice to see and know what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to see going forward. Our second big thing today is
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  Speaker 2: going to be communications. Communication is key always, but a
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  Speaker 2: little talk being made of the reaction between head coach
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  Speaker 2: Dan Cohen and quarterback Trebor Lawrence going back and forth
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  Speaker 2: on the sideline during the game.
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  Speaker 1: Now both of.
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  Speaker 2: Them kind of reiterating it wasn't that big.
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  Speaker 1: Of a deal, but also Coan talked about it on Monday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets made to be a thing that obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in the in this rat poison world we
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  Speaker 3: live in, but uh, it's you know, it's the it's emotional.
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  Speaker 3: It's an emotional game. It's a competitive game. We're all competitive,
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  Speaker 3: We're all emotional. I can control mind better, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he was just telling me to like move on.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't telling me to go screw. It's
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  Speaker 3: just saying, dude, move on, you know, like come on, guys,
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  Speaker 3: like it's uh, but yeah, to answer your to answer
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  Speaker 3: your question.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan it.
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  Speaker 3: I was very pleased with the way he you know,
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  Speaker 3: he showed something, you know, he did got ticked off
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  Speaker 3: at times. He had great dialogue with his teammates on
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  Speaker 3: the sidelines. He made some huge throws for us and
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  Speaker 3: critical moments and if anything, I was extremely coouraged with
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  Speaker 3: with Trevor post games.
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  Speaker 2: John, We've got a rat poison mention a lah Nick Saban,
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  Speaker 2: so that's always fun. But talking about that relationship, this
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  Speaker 2: is a different coaching style for Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: I think it might be good for him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look that's all real.
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  Speaker 6: I mean now what Liam was saying, and a goat
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  Speaker 6: to some people over the time he's been here. He
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  Speaker 6: has a very unique way of holding players accountable. His
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  Speaker 6: communication with players, He's gonna get in their face, He's
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  Speaker 6: going to be emotional with him. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 6: when he does that, he has a way that they
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  Speaker 6: know they support that, they know he supports them. It's
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  Speaker 6: a different kind of style than I've been around. But
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  Speaker 6: the players respond to it. They trust it. I think
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  Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence trusts that they can have that sort of interaction,
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  Speaker 6: and so does Liam. And it not have ramifications. This
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  Speaker 6: is a story because rat poison, whatever, because this thing
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  Speaker 6: turns into a story, but it's not an issue within
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  Speaker 6: these walls.
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  Speaker 4: It's a game of emotion and of human confrontation.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I loved it because I think that we need a
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  Speaker 4: bit of that. You know, the coach is passionate and
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Lords is decidedly dispassionate. You know, when he's out
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  Speaker 4: there playing football, he isn't ruled by his emotions, and
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  Speaker 4: so to have a coach who is the opposite end,
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  Speaker 4: there's a balancing effect here, and I think that'll be
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  Speaker 4: good for both of them. Plus, it's drama and football
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  Speaker 4: is entertainment and it drives viewership and people are interested.
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  Speaker 5: We're still talking about.
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  Speaker 4: It, but overall, bottom line, I really believe that this
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  Speaker 4: will be good for both men.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I can't tell you the number of times I've
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  Speaker 6: heard in the last month they're coaching Trevor really hard
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  Speaker 6: because he's learning new things, adapting to a system. He's
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  Speaker 6: being coached differently than ever before. The number of times
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  Speaker 6: that I've heard they are ecstatic with how he's taken
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  Speaker 6: that coaching. So again, this is a thing because these
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  Speaker 6: things become a thing in social media e. It's not
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  Speaker 6: thing inside the walls.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think Trevor's really taken to
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  Speaker 2: it as well, at least from what we've seen the
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  Speaker 2: first couple of weeks and through training camp. So our
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  Speaker 2: final big thing today is gonna be Texans time, because
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  Speaker 2: before we know it's going to be Texans time here.
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  Speaker 2: The Texans are returning to be the first divisional.
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  Speaker 1: Matchup so far for the Jags.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen a lot so far from what this new
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  Speaker 2: regime is going to look like, Brian, but these games
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  Speaker 2: are important.
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  Speaker 1: So what are we gonna see against the textim?
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  Speaker 5: You know, Kay, Just to give her what a history lesson.
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  Speaker 4: The Texans came in here as an expansion team in
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and two and beat the Jaguars, and ever
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  Speaker 4: since then they have had the upper hand and it
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  Speaker 4: felt like in twenty twenty two that the Jaguars had
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  Speaker 4: turned the corner and they were ready to sort of
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  Speaker 4: sit atop the division in the South like they never had.
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  Speaker 5: And yet here comes c. J.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud, who's won three of four against the Jaguars over
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  Speaker 4: the last two years. And then you have the move
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  Speaker 4: with the linebacker you know, and the hit on Trevor
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  Speaker 4: last year. The Jaguars have a lot of reasons to
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  Speaker 4: be emotional and to play hard, But the most important one, John,
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  Speaker 4: is they have an opportunity to go to and one
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  Speaker 4: and to make the Texans oho and three, and that
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  Speaker 4: is all that matters this week.
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  Speaker 6: Yet I'm not gonna dwell on the hit. That's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be a topic enough as we move forward. But the
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  Speaker 6: Texans are a team that likes to try to intimidate
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  Speaker 6: under Amico Ryans, They're a physical team. They'll push this week.
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  Speaker 6: I believe the Jaguars will push back.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see, all right, say with Heren Jagzam, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk more about what's coming up the rest of the week.
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  Speaker 1: This welcome back to jag Zam. This morning.
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  Speaker 2: We're to talk a little this or that as we're
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  Speaker 2: looking ahead to that divisual matchup against the Texans.
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  Speaker 1: What we might see out of the offense.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit because we saw some two kind of
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  Speaker 2: two players kind of jumped out to me a little
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  Speaker 2: bit in terms of getting extra playing time. We'll start
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  Speaker 2: out with facial Tuton, obviously the traded tank Bigsby to
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles last week, and then Tooton got some increase
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  Speaker 2: in carries and he certainly took advantage of that.
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  Speaker 1: Do we think that I'll keep increasing every week?
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  Speaker 2: Do we think it'll be a slow Maybe later in
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  Speaker 2: the season we'll kind of take over. You think it's
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  Speaker 2: always going to be half and half with the etend.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's going to reach that point where it's
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  Speaker 4: happened half with him in ETN because I think gets
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  Speaker 4: clear that the young legs are dynamic and he is
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  Speaker 4: a playmaker.
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  Speaker 5: And this coaching staff loves him, and Etn.
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  Speaker 4: Just keeps performing at a level. There's no reason to
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  Speaker 4: not have him on the field as well. These guys
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  Speaker 4: take a lot of hits. Running back careers are notoriously
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  Speaker 4: short because of all the abuse that they take. So
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  Speaker 4: why not go fifty to fifty if that's what Tuton
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  Speaker 4: has earned At this point it looked like he had
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  Speaker 4: earned it last Sunday and since Mattie John and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it's forty five forty five and then
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  Speaker 4: ten percent for laquint Allen because he brings you something.
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  Speaker 6: To Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think they're I
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  Speaker 6: don't want to say they're gonna work or they're gonna
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  Speaker 6: have to work to keep Touton off the field, because
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  Speaker 6: I don't think they want to and I don't think
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  Speaker 6: they want to work to keep these guys on the field.
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  Speaker 6: Tuton has shown there's gonna be a time in the
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  Speaker 6: next eighteen twenty four months for this franchise where I
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  Speaker 6: think this kid's the guy, and he's shown speed, he's
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  Speaker 6: shown pretty remarkable balance and toughness. I think it's really
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  Speaker 6: it's a testament to how well Etn's played that Tutan's
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  Speaker 6: not already starting though, because they believe he has that
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  Speaker 6: kind of ability, And Travis has just earned the right
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  Speaker 6: to still be playing because he's playing so well. It's
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  Speaker 6: an unbelievable good situation running back.
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  Speaker 4: Pardon me, I think I believe that that will continue
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  Speaker 4: because Etn's playing for his future, which is like plead
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  Speaker 4: to be somewhere else on the fifth year option this year.
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  Speaker 4: So as long as you have a player who's so
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  Speaker 4: motivated to keep playing at a high level, I think
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  Speaker 4: it benefits everybody to just keep giving.
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  Speaker 5: Them both reps.
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  Speaker 2: I know John kind of predicted the ETN breakout, but
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  Speaker 2: it's been nice to see the team as a whole
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  Speaker 2: talk about, you know, focusing on the run but really
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  Speaker 2: embracing it and so forth. And so what we talked
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  Speaker 2: about just Liam Collen coaching the run and kind of
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  Speaker 2: the plays and how he's involving the running backs and everything.
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  Speaker 1: It's making them so much more dynamic.
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  Speaker 4: I thought ETM was the best player on the field
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  Speaker 4: for most of training camp, and I'm not surprised that he's.
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  Speaker 5: Able to carry it through. But it doesn't always happen
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  Speaker 5: that way.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about another really good training camp performance and
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  Speaker 2: also now we're seeing in the regular season Parker Washington
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  Speaker 2: probably had the best training camp of that maybe anybody
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  Speaker 2: who saw on offense. And you know, when his number
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  Speaker 2: is called, it's not called a lot, but he comes
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  Speaker 2: through on the offense making some tremendous catches against the Bengals, John,
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  Speaker 2: is it time to find more time for him?
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  Speaker 1: Or yes?
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  Speaker 6: Passin how do you do it? And the only reason
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  Speaker 6: he hasn't played more is because it's been so hard.
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  Speaker 6: You have three talented guys in that lineup in front
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  Speaker 6: of him. But he was remarkable the other day and
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  Speaker 6: run after the catch, the catch he made down near
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say it's a fifteen yard line. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going very high point of the ball. That's as
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  Speaker 6: good as catch outside Evan Ingram's catch against Green Bay
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  Speaker 6: last year in the end zone. He read to remembers
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  Speaker 6: that was an unbelievable catch. Yes, he's going to play
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  Speaker 6: a lot more. He's earned it, and frankly, they're a
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  Speaker 6: better team when he's in the game then maybe the
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  Speaker 6: other any of the other three receivers right now. So
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  Speaker 6: he has to play.
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  Speaker 4: Football is a meritocracy. You earn your time by what
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  Speaker 4: you do. And if Diammy Brown drops passes in the
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  Speaker 4: end zone, Parker Washington is going to get his opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to play. If Brian Thomas Junior can't make key catches
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  Speaker 4: like fourth down in the final couple of minutes, then
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  Speaker 4: Parker Washington's going to get his chances. And I'll use
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  Speaker 4: an example because you both there and he saw it.
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  Speaker 4: Parker Washington made a big debut in Cleveland in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty three. You remember that game, and he made a
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  Speaker 4: couple of spectacular catchers like wow. Well, he just he
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  Speaker 4: had to develop some more and become more consistent. But
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  Speaker 4: we've seen this from them all throughout training camp and
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  Speaker 4: then hop about last week. I mean, Parker Washington's won
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  Speaker 4: five foot seven and he went up over a six weight.
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  Speaker 6: He's tall five foot seven, but I get your point.
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  Speaker 5: But he's but he's sort of a Maurice Jones drew.
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  Speaker 4: He's not much taller than five foot seven, and he
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  Speaker 4: went up over the much taller player and just snatched
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  Speaker 4: the ball away. Well, that's skill, that's that's that's talent,
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  Speaker 4: that strength, and that's want to that's drive. He wanted
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  Speaker 4: to make that play and be the best, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that's such a good example for Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 6: And here's also the thing that I'm sure is happening,
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  Speaker 6: and Trevor would never say it. He's gotta have more
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  Speaker 6: trust in Parker Washington right now than Diame and Brian
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  Speaker 6: Thomas Junior. I'm not trying to criticize those two, but
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  Speaker 6: every time he throws the ball to park or something
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  Speaker 6: good happens, when you're under fire in the pocket, you
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  Speaker 6: naturally start going to that guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll see more of it as well. So
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  Speaker 2: coming up after break, we'll talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 2: what's been going on around the division and the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back into Jags Almazola's a correct camera.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back because we're gonna talk a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: About the NFL and the AFC South as well, but
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  Speaker 2: talk about that injury Goughburrow saw him leave in the
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  Speaker 2: second quarter of the game against the Jaguars. This weekend
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  Speaker 2: and now confirmed information he's gonna have to get surgery
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  Speaker 2: on his foot's turf toe and he could be out
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  Speaker 2: three months, which is Jake Browning came back and got
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  Speaker 2: the win for his team. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna go that rout or they're gonna bring someone
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  Speaker 2: else in. But it's tough to see, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: like to see when some of the best quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 2: the league are hurt because for some of the most
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  Speaker 2: dynamic players to watch and it kind of stakes.
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  Speaker 4: And last week we have talked up to tell us
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  Speaker 4: what a great guy he was with the leader.
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  Speaker 5: This is his third major injury in six seasons.
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  Speaker 4: I think he had a shoulder and I know we
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  Speaker 4: hit the ACL back in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: He is a great player and with.
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  Speaker 4: Those receivers, they're a contender when he's on the field
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  Speaker 4: and healthy. The problem is they haven't been able to
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  Speaker 4: be all together on the field and healthy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah this pass now, I mean, I think I'll stick
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  Speaker 6: with brown because they did a couple of years back.
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  Speaker 6: They're two in a out three minds spare as twelve
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  Speaker 6: games when Jake was in there before he had him
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: in five hundred, so they go eight and six. They
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: still stay in this thing, which Jake Brown. I think
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: they think Jake Brown can do that because guess what,
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: they have maybe the best receiver in the NFL and
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: another great player on the other side.
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: We saw the other day.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: They can get teams. If a team doesn't get away
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: from them, those guys can make enough place to keep
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: the Bengals in it. They'll be interesting to watch because
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: they don't back down when Burrow's out.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: The problem that they're going to have is that their
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: offensive line is clearly not good enough.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: It hasn't been for a while, No.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: It hasn't guy and their defensive line the interior doesn't
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: appear to be either. And Trey Hendrickson can do a lot,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: but he can't put his hand on the ground and
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: playing a three technique, Well, he could, but you don't
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: want to do that with him.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: So they've got some holes there.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: And in the NFC or a part of the AFC
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: North where you've got Pittsburgh in Baltimore, it's gonna be
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: tough to stay in contention.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Let's check in around the division. The Texans were on
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football last night and lost at the last
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: second to the Bucks, and now the Texans are zero
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to two coming in here this week.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: John, Yeah, and from the Jags perspective, the Colts are
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: dangerous and no only mentioned them because they're in first place.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: So by not talking about them and this, I'm not
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: ignoring the Colts. But if you think the Texans are
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: the are the division favorite, which I still kind of do,
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: then getting them in a hole on Sunday would be
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: a major deal. They've lost to two good teams, so
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: let's not write them off. The Rams are good and
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: the Bucks are sort of sneaky.
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Good, so.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: They have holes clearly the Texans do, but they're gonna
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: be a hard out Sunday because of desperate team Sindra agree.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: I think the difference between the Jaguars and the Texans
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: in the last couple of years has been more from
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: an attitude perspective, right, the way that they played the game,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: the confidence they had in themselves, their quarterback and their coach,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: and they were a resilient ball club.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: And John said that they like to play bullyball. They
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: like to beat you up. Well, that's the.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Way that Liam Cohen and Tony Bisselli and James Gladstone
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: have built this team, so I expect the Jaguars to
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: understand the circumstances on Sunday and come out and match
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: that bully attitude with one of their own. And I
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: don't think that the Texans are that much better than
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: this football team, but they've won the last two division titles,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: so a nod to them.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Definitely one of the matchups I'm most looking forward to,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: just because of that mentality, to kind of see how they.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: Match up tests to establish if this team thinks it's physical,
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: then they want to be the most physical, tough team
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: in the division. They've got to show the Texans that
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: they're that tough.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I would like them to find where zero is and
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: run right at him over and over and over again.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: It run and run it.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the leaders of the division now, right
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: now though the Colts. They are two to zero after
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: some dramatics at the end of their game against the Broncos, and.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I got it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna give them too
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: much props. But Indiana Jones is a great nickname, and
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has really been doing something there. John's we
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: never feel like they're out of the mix totally. It's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: almost one of those teams where it depends what time
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: of the year we play them what they're going to
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: look like. But with Daniel Jones, it seems to be
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: working right now.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: But they're a good roster and they obviously have a great, great,
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: great running back. Their issue, ever since Luck got hurt,
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: has been the constant search for the right guy to
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: elevate what has always been at least a decent roster
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: around the quarterback. I don't know that Daniel Jones is
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: a Pro Bowl player. He has unbelievable numbers this year.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know he's a Pro Bowl guy. He might be,
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: but it certainly Brian seems like he's at least a
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: guy who can have that team functioning. To me, they're
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: dangerous because of that. I mean, you're two and zero, Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: it takes a while to dip back to the pack.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: So they're dangerous and you've got to go beat him.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: He's the latest version of Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: former high pick that has to go to another team.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: This is his third team now because remember he signed
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: with Minnesota last year after the Giants let him go.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I think Jonathan Taylor is the second best running back
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: in the league. Saquon Barkley is obviously number one, but
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor when he's been healthy, and that's been the
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: key John is he hasn't been able to stay healthy.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: He's had a foot or ankle injury that has slowed
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: him down the last two years. But I mean, he
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: was the league's leading rusher a few years ago, almost
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: two thousand yards. Now that he's got a quarterback, he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: even more dangerous. I didn't think that this roster was
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: very good, but with Daniel Jones unpacking, unlocking Jonathan Taylor,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, guys who were kind of okay
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: are all of a sudden playing at a much higher level.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: But I think Daniel Jones was that guy, the key
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: to getting this team going, and they are very dangerous
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: as long as Jonathan Taylor stays healthy.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Taylor's also that guy at running back. Cawk is ticking,
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: but right now he's at a peak of ability. Yep,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: still in his prime and now the experience, so he's
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: right at that sweet spot of being absolutely.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: If they can keep him healthy, they're going to be
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a really big problem in the AFC.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Will be interesting because the jagson't actually play them. They
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: played them pretty close back to back, not quite back
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to back, but much much later in the season. So
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: we'll see how this kind of progresses for them from
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Afar until we get to play him a couple of times.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Stay with us here, We'll tell you what's going on
• 20:47
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  Speaker 5: We've we've all got most lay here and there. This
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: game all right, it's on all of us. Move on,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: wats it? We're fine. I gotta get you guys that
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: can on that hold the line. I gotta signal it,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: make sure we're lined up legal. Two plays in a
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: road there, we'll messed up, you guys sitting there. Of that,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: I'll do my job. You guys watch after all that,
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: After all that, we've still got plice.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: On that they have not stopped yet.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: And remember the details. They will not be able to.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Three.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It was just like me and the commercial break guys.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: You gotta all be on the same page hyping you up.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: That's nice to see you guys. All the mistakes, No, no, no,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: we're all together.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: John's all of us.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: We got the that's Cary Lawns on the sideline, Robert
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Hainsey as well to your Captain's there. Micd up is
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: going to be released tomorrow night or miked u might
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: already be out. Sounds of game will be released tomorrow night,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: and it's nice to see a little bit. We also
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: put out the postgame locker room from the loss, which
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: is something we haven't done before and I don't see
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a ton of around the league as well, and it
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: was very interesting to kind of see that perspective.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: What do we talk about, you know on Monday and
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: drags wart. How radically transparent this head coach is. I mean,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: he holds nothing back and it is so amazing to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: have that because, as you mentioned, very few people do.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: I think it tells a great story.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: They're doing things the right way. And when you do
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: things the right way, you don't mind who sees it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Who you guys talking to this week? What are
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you looking forward to?
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: I'm talking to one of the team captains Robert Hainsey.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to that. I don't know him very well.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: He's been impressive as he's come in elected captain his
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: first year, in his relationship with Liam Cohen and how
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: he has sort of been the leader of transition or
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: one of the leaders in this transition.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: He's a cool story.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk with Matt Edwards, the defensive line coach.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Obviously it's a big challenge this week, and I also
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: want to check down Parker Washington, getting his thoughts on
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: being a guy that Trevor console.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm checking in with another captain. I'm gonna be
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: off the field with Jordan Lewis this week, who is
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: on the ozone podcast and he's just a really interesting guy,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: so I think that'll be fun as well. Of course,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: we'll be back on Jags Am tomorrow. We're gonna do
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a deep dive. I'll tell you all about the Texans
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and what to expect in the matchup.