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NFL First Look | Week 6 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the lift?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Every one? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and
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  Speaker 2: Tambo back for another edition of the First Look Show.
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  Speaker 2: Week six Ahead, break it all down. We got ten
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  Speaker 2: Week six? It's moving pretty quick here.
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  Speaker 3: It is, and I guess the exciting thing is the
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  Speaker 3: scoring is finally up in dfs. But the bad news
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  Speaker 3: is is like now we're getting those shootout games at
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  Speaker 3: noon and it's like if you didn't have that stack,
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  Speaker 3: you pretty much are cooked. This is the first week
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  Speaker 3: was like, Oh I didn't have a Burrow stack. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess I have the afternoon to myself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you had the stone last week, though, and I
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  Speaker 2: know you did, you might have been somewhat interested in that.
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  Speaker 2: We did break it down on the Takedown breakdown and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the members had that goal. With the
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  Speaker 2: f rating for the Ravens, we'll be talking about the
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  Speaker 2: Ravens this week. You saw the cover boy Jayden Daniels'
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  Speaker 2: MVP odds have dropped forty five to one. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's down to eleven to one now. So interesting a
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  Speaker 2: rookie winning the MVP. You'll have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 2: But before I get into it, I do just want
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  Speaker 2: to show off a couple of the winners from last week.
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  Speaker 2: So pulled us up for you guys first here quickly
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  Speaker 2: and so we can go to this. I'll swap it
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  Speaker 2: over and see. But there was two people we had
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  Speaker 2: the random draw rock Is Rocks b Triple eight said
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  Speaker 2: great show. Love to see the big guy in here.
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  Speaker 2: Top quarterback Joe Burrow, who just edged out Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 2: That's the ninety nine dollars package. So get you set
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  Speaker 2: up with that there, and then James, I'm gonna pull
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  Speaker 2: this one up here. But I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: saw this or not. We did look because he's submitted,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll show it to you. Drew Bee was the
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  Speaker 2: winner of the Big Guy last week, which will pull
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  Speaker 2: up again this seek, but just just almost filled it
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  Speaker 2: twenty four to seventy four of the twenty five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: But that was his lineup. What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm never a huge fan of spending so
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  Speaker 3: much money on my stacks. Like by the time you
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  Speaker 3: put Higgins, Chase and Burrow in a stack, you basically
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  Speaker 3: need like a ninety eight ninety nine percent outcome from
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  Speaker 3: those guys.
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  Speaker 4: But he got it, so I mean nine sighted. He
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  Speaker 4: looks like a genius. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It was just I always caution people putting too much
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  Speaker 3: money into their stacks, especially with two elite receivers like that,
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  Speaker 3: because like you know, you basically are gonna need two
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  Speaker 3: touchdowns from both of them, and that doesn't happen very often,
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  Speaker 3: but it happened this week. And then he just happened
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  Speaker 3: to have all the nice peripheral pieces in there. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's a lineup I would have never built.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what, sometimes you got to have the
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  Speaker 3: nuts to build some crazier lineups to take down the
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  Speaker 3: big GPP.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked a little bit about this one too,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll just hit it quick for those that maybe
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  Speaker 2: didn't catch. If you want to go back and check
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  Speaker 2: it out, the Takedown breakdown covers it more in depth
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  Speaker 2: and is all process related, breaking down how people got
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  Speaker 2: to these some of the player pools, the winning lineups,
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff. But The Stone really loved the passing
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  Speaker 2: game and the only thing it had highlighted was Burrow
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  Speaker 2: Higgins Chase on that side and on the other side
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  Speaker 2: it was Lamar, Derrick Henry and Zay Flowers. There was
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  Speaker 2: some nice lineups that got to Zay Flowers in this spot,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a really bad spot for Cincy on
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  Speaker 2: the ground. So if you could make it work, and
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  Speaker 2: if you knew Darius was going to break the Slayton,
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  Speaker 2: you can get him in very easily. With Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 2: there was you know, Kraft was already there, Broncos were there,
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  Speaker 2: so he kind of just built the same lineup as
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  Speaker 2: everybody else. And that's why we even saw second through
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  Speaker 2: fourth was a very similar line up to this with
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  Speaker 2: Zay Flowers instead of Henry chopped up in the twenty
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  Speaker 2: dollars million Maker's just like you said, when you go
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  Speaker 2: that expensive stack, it essentially forces you on to the
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  Speaker 2: other stuff. So anything else you want to add therey
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  Speaker 2: if not, I'll pull up this Week's.
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  Speaker 3: Just that I had a lot of Darius Slayton myself
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  Speaker 3: because of you and Mayo on that Friday show. You guys,
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  Speaker 3: I swear of got had the second half of the
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  Speaker 3: show could have just been called the Darius Slayton part
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  Speaker 3: of the show.
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  Speaker 2: I was so glad he ended up on the optimal
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  Speaker 2: So we have something to talk about this week. Because
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  Speaker 2: when that show ended recording, I looked at Pat and
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  Speaker 2: I said, what did we just do? I was like,
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  Speaker 2: we literally just spent half an hour on Darius Slayton.
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  Speaker 2: This guy better break it, and luckily he did. I
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  Speaker 2: pulled it up here. You guys aren't in it yet
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  Speaker 2: it's the best tournament on DraftKings. It's a five dollars
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  Speaker 2: five max, two thousand entries. They did dock it back
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, but I'm confident we'll fill it. A
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  Speaker 2: great payouts structure twelve fifty to first, one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fift fifty to tenth, very balanced as you can see
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  Speaker 2: in front of you. And it's a five dollars five max.
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  Speaker 2: Min cash gets ten dollars. So go to my ex
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  Speaker 2: at Totag and tambo. Join it there if you're a member.
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  Speaker 2: It's already pinned in the NFL channels. So all right,
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  Speaker 2: let's go to the Stone. Gonna bring that up here
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  Speaker 2: next and we can start on it for this week.
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  Speaker 2: We like to get right into it. But I got
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  Speaker 2: the games just a shell. But this is what people
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  Speaker 2: saw last week here right DJM was the the f
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  Speaker 2: pass defense spoiler alert checks notes, as you like to say,
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  Speaker 2: didn't get any better after Joe Burrow just completely roasted them.
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  Speaker 2: So still an f for the Ravens. But this game
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  Speaker 2: got the big boy total and it's got Lamar Jackson
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  Speaker 2: versus Jayden Daniels. First thoughts on this first look show
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  Speaker 2: for this.
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  Speaker 3: Game, I tried to tell you those grades they mean something.
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  Speaker 3: I look at those you were asking me about, Like
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  Speaker 3: last week we were talking about do you ever look
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  Speaker 3: at cornerback versus wide receiver matchups. I'm like, no, but
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  Speaker 3: I do look at teams rushing and passing grades. That
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  Speaker 3: stuff matters, especially every week we're getting more and more
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  Speaker 3: data to solidify those numbers and make them more accurate,
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  Speaker 3: which then we convert to it. Great, right, So I
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  Speaker 3: feel it even more confident as we're moving air and
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  Speaker 3: we sticks with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, with someone Last week too, with the Bengals, they
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  Speaker 2: were like seventy four percent pass vers their run split,
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  Speaker 2: and then again the Ravens were the same. They were
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  Speaker 2: f first to pass a versus the rush. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: you're not running on them and a little bit sure,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm saying you're you're not really going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to but if you get there, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be through the air. And even with the first AFC
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  Speaker 2: North Battle of the season, the potential for it to
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  Speaker 2: go under, just because sometimes that happens. In those games,
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  Speaker 2: it went the opposite and completely went off like the
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  Speaker 2: total suggested at forty nine and a half. What's your
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  Speaker 2: first thoughts on this game with the big boy total,
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  Speaker 2: and do you buy into any of the stuff with
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  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson twenty one to one versus NFC opponents. He
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  Speaker 2: just they're not ready for him. He wasn't ready.
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  Speaker 3: I well, my first instinct is like, this game's going
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  Speaker 3: to be crazy popular. Dane Daniels is going to be Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's just like he's so good at Fantasy already.
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  Speaker 3: Now he's going to be in a script where they're
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  Speaker 3: almost certainly going to have to be aggressive. The Ravens
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  Speaker 3: and Lamar have shown that they're not afraid to get
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  Speaker 3: in a shootout. They can push the pace of a game.
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  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry loves the bust, big ass runs, which keeps
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  Speaker 3: the pace of the games up. I have a feeling
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  Speaker 3: that Daniels and McLaurin are both probably gonna be something
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  Speaker 3: ridiculous this week. Like Daniel's twenty percent would not surprise
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  Speaker 3: me this week. This is just a great game environment
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  Speaker 3: over a fifty point total, which has been very rare
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  Speaker 3: this year. And then Daniel's just offers such an incredible
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  Speaker 3: flour with an incredible ceiling that like, I he's just
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  Speaker 3: gonna you better get all in on him. If you
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  Speaker 3: want to have any leverage on him this week because
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna be popular.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the chat loves it. And I'll tell you this,
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  Speaker 2: it's early in the week. I don't always listen to
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  Speaker 2: myself by the end of the week, but I kind
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  Speaker 2: of want to just fade this game. Stack Like, I know,
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  Speaker 2: the totals big, it's fifty two and a half. I'm honoringous.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even place a lot of sports bets, but
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  Speaker 2: I really just think there's a possibility. I know how
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  Speaker 2: bad this Ravens past he is, but at home Lamar
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  Speaker 2: versus Daniels, they want to show up each other, keep
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  Speaker 2: the other guy off the field, run the ball. We
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  Speaker 2: still have Dereck Henry. You can run on these commanders.
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  Speaker 2: I do think there's gonna be some leverage opportunities here,
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  Speaker 2: and I do have a little bit of interest in
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  Speaker 2: the under this game because I just think when sometimes
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  Speaker 2: when you get these spots or everyone just thinks it's
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  Speaker 2: the nut spot to go over, you actually see the
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  Speaker 2: opposite because both teams and defenses really step up. They
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  Speaker 2: want to prove that their guy is the guy, and
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  Speaker 2: so the defenses step up just as much. On the
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  Speaker 2: other side, it won't be a popular take no matter
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  Speaker 2: what day of the week we get to. You can tell.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing I want to stick to is what
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  Speaker 2: I talked about. The quarterback pricing is broken. It's still
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  Speaker 2: kind of broken on the expensive guys, Like that's still
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  Speaker 2: not expensive enough. But there is gonna be guys in
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  Speaker 2: the five k, the six K Rangers, a guy less
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  Speaker 2: than five k this week that people are talking about
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  Speaker 2: that there's other ways that you can go and stack
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  Speaker 2: it up, so this will be popular.
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  Speaker 3: Just know, how about Brian Robinson Jr. I need to
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  Speaker 3: do a Maya Copa on this guy. Like he's good,
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  Speaker 3: Like I feted him so hard at Best Ball. I
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  Speaker 3: just didn't like him. I didn't think he was that good.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like his you know, his position with the Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: But like he owns that backfield on first and second down,
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  Speaker 3: and they run the ball efficiently enough and they get
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  Speaker 3: to the goal line enough that like maybe you just
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  Speaker 3: go play him.
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  Speaker 4: Hope he Piltv's a couple of touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: This game's like twenty one to seventeen, and you basically
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  Speaker 3: got the guy you needed from this game and faded
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  Speaker 3: all the other noise, And that could be the way
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  Speaker 3: to get in here, get out and still have a
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  Speaker 3: huge leverage on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it is Daniel Jones sounds
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  Speaker 2: like you know, Sean, but not one of those won.
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  Speaker 2: He's twenty one and one, he's lost once to them,
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  Speaker 2: so that's the thing. It's like, if it is him, great,
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  Speaker 2: but the point would be there's something to that as well.
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  Speaker 2: I think, like, obviously he's just been so good. He's
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  Speaker 2: really good against the Bengals too. He almost fumbled it
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  Speaker 2: away last week, but not even homerism. I just think
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  Speaker 2: there's gonna be There's still ten games we saw last week.
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay Rams was the game that everybody was talking
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  Speaker 2: about and all over and it did not end up
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  Speaker 2: being what was required. You needed a little bit from it,
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  Speaker 2: a couple pieces. You can easily do that within this
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  Speaker 2: game and just get little pieces there, back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have anything else in this game, but the
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  Speaker 2: aforementioned Packers are in the next game, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: Packers versus the Cardinals, and funny enough, still a pretty
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  Speaker 2: big total here closer spread in Green Bay. What's your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on this one, Djen.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my thoughts are Jordan Love kind of let me
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  Speaker 3: and I guess most of DFS players down last week.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't even that bad. It just wasn't a great
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  Speaker 3: The game just never really took off. The Rams never
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  Speaker 3: really push it like we thought they would. But the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 3: you know, once again a team not afraid to give
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  Speaker 3: up some points. The Packers are at home where Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Love has been better, and it seems like he's going
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  Speaker 3: to have that condensed passing tree again. So am I
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  Speaker 3: going to have some forgiveness of my heart for Jordan Love?
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  Speaker 4: Probably? Probably?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the other thing last week, we were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, almost all in on. It made a
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  Speaker 2: lot of sense in good spots. There was teams that
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  Speaker 2: you could build with it pretty easily, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: know some people were making fun of like the fact
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  Speaker 2: he lost some of his guys and people hopped on,
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  Speaker 2: but that's the whole point. When the target tree tightens up,
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  Speaker 2: that's when we do want to get involved. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what ended up happening. And yes, it was only Tucker
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  Speaker 2: Craft who, by the way, huge price increase this week
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  Speaker 2: for him, and rightfully so after another big game. But
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  Speaker 2: you definitely think this is another spot that we can
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  Speaker 2: target both defenses look at those grades not the best,
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  Speaker 2: the total is still there, the spreads close enough. I
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  Speaker 2: think the fact that it's in Green Bay is not
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  Speaker 2: as ideal as if it was in Arizona. But I
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  Speaker 2: still think it's gonna be fine going back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: And even on the other side, I think there is
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  Speaker 2: like C plus not the best. There's definitely some passing opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: The Kyler Murray secured the bag with call of duty
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. Did you see that one? He said, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for the trolling and the memes, because now he's secured
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  Speaker 2: the bag, he's got the deal with the call of
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  Speaker 2: duty thing. But I don't know if he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be in that form yet. I think it's another couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks still yet to go, so this passing game
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  Speaker 2: could be solid here. Also, I just think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a different target spot. And it kind of
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  Speaker 2: talked about, you know, kind of talking about what you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned earlier with like these morning games just needing them.
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  Speaker 2: This could be one of the ones that you end
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  Speaker 2: up needing. Right they're passing it a ton. I think
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be a good opportunity early on
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  Speaker 2: in the week to get after so nothing else there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move on. I'll kick it over to you. It
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  Speaker 2: sounds like again the Stone. I know we always put
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback at hand, but it sounds like they could
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: be bringing out Drake May this week and so a
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: lot have to see how that goes. But it's the
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Patriots at home versus the Texans. Patriots just look horrible
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  Speaker 2: on paper. But what's your thoughts on this one?
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  Speaker 3: My first thoughts are, give me that Patriots defense twenty
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  Speaker 3: four hundred dollars at home, c J.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud.
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  Speaker 3: He did not look very good after Nigo Collins was
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  Speaker 3: out right, you think, oh, he still got digs, he
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  Speaker 3: still got Dell Hell, even Xavier Hutchinson's not bad for
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  Speaker 3: a fourth wide receiver. And they just couldn't move the
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  Speaker 3: ball after after Collins was out, it was like a
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  Speaker 3: completely different offense. And he you know, he had happy
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  Speaker 3: the He looked like a different quarterback back there. And
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a game that just reeks of
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  Speaker 3: like a you know, like a seventeen to thirteen type game.
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  Speaker 3: And the Patriots, you know, win this game and get
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  Speaker 3: it done by just harass and shroud the whole game.
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  Speaker 3: You know, part of me wants to go get a
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  Speaker 3: little tank, Dell. But with him price up to sixty
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  Speaker 3: two hundred, I'm wondering if, like, maybe this passing game
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  Speaker 3: is just broke without Onniko in there, and there's from
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  Speaker 3: what I'm hearing, there's no chance he's gonna play this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they adjusted it right. It went immediately from day
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  Speaker 2: to day to week to weeks, so it doesn't sound
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  Speaker 2: good for him. Dell was actually not even really that involved.
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  Speaker 2: Even after he went out. I saw it was just
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  Speaker 2: such a low snap percentage and target share that he
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  Speaker 2: was getting. So it was like, essentially, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: an interesting way that it played out. But I do
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  Speaker 2: think you could be right in that situation. And the
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: other thing that was funny. I called this on the
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  Speaker 2: show last week, but it was like, basically, the minute
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  Speaker 2: they tell me it's gonna be Antonio Gibson and not Remandre,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's gonna be Remandre. It's just
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the way it works out. They paid him.
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  Speaker 2: The guy's too good. It's just a spot, right, So
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  Speaker 2: I don't think about I'm not think about him too
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  Speaker 2: much here, but sixty one hundred maybe interesting for tournaments.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you could pair him up with that deal, Like
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  Speaker 2: you said, get a little combo pack there for eighty
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  Speaker 2: five hundred, but just Patriots D alone could be the
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: way to go at home against CJ. Stroud, who's down weapons.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: And then what's the news on Joe Mixon right now?
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Did you see anything on that?
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, I thought he was going to be
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: back this last week and he still wasn't back. Because
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering if it's one of those lingering injury injuries,
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: it's just going to like, you know, like every week,
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: we're going to keep thinking he's back and he's not.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: I have not heard any update, but I was thinking
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: he was going to be back last week, and it
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: sounds like he wasn't even particularly close to playing this
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: past week.
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: So I would say fifty to fifty at best.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny's in here talking about this. I mean, yeah,
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I agree. And I think that's just something you were
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: seeing early on in the season already. It was like,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: you know, for sure gonna be Wondale last week because
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: there's no neighbors. It's like it's no, it's different. He's
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: probably better off when neighbors is in there. It's you know,
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: situational stuff like that. We just saw it last night.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Everyone's complain about Worthy. Yeah, they probably should use Worthy
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: more and all that, but who says like the chat
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: made some good points in our discord, like is he
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: a premium route runner? No, he's fast, fast, fast, and
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: that can work in your favor because you get the
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: ball in your playmaker's hands and they go do something
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: with it. But that's the key, right, he's used to
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: having Rice in there. Guess who's open Worthy and guess
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: how fast he is? Very fast, like I already said,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: So that's the difference in some of this stuff, And
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: you just got to wonder. I mean, obviously those guys
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: did have big games last year where they rotated when
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Collins was out Dell and I forget to the other
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: guy was. But was it Noah Brown last year?
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Noah Brown.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Was there a guy that would have the big games
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: as the third wide receiver last year?
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: They just treoed it up like one would always be
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: out ninjured and the other guy would be in. So
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe it's with adding digs, it's a
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: little bit different dynamic, But I do think that's at
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: least somewhat interesting to talk about their defense has been
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: pretty good. But again, I don't think it changes completely
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: when you look at you different quarterback, all this stuff
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: And don't sleep. Digs and Dell's price are both up.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: They're pricing like Collins is going to be out, So
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: you're paying a premium for those guys, and they have
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: not if you look at their underlying metrics, both Diggs
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: and Dell, neither of them justify those price tags if
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: you look at their underlying metrics so far this year.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: One last thing too, ten games slate. We're making a
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: pretty good time early on, But just want to ask quick,
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: do you think Houston d will pick up steam at
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: thirty six hundred if Drake May is going to be
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: the guy that they put in. Do you think that's
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: going to be a possibility?
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: For sure?
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: For sure, But I don't know that that's necessarily a
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: sharp play because I think if they do play Drake May,
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna see at most twenty passes from them.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a very conservative game plan
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: from the Patriots. Rather, even if they get behind, I
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: think they'll keep it conservative. So I wouldn't love the
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Texans thirty six hundred dollars defense, because you know, outside
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: of throwing a shutout, I just don't think they're going
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: to get a ton of chances to score.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: We're thinking alike here. That's why I asked the question.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, if that's the case, I
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: just don't see them unleashing him right away. Where it's
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: gonna be he gets to come out throw forty times
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: and make a bunch of mistakes or give those opportunities
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: to the text. And so if they did steam up,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: it's the same conversation you just had around the wide receivers.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: There's a premium involved in the match to start with.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: It's not because of May, it's just because they're pricing
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: they're up against the Patriots low total. But just to
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: say there is a price involved with it and it's
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: not necessarily the best spot to go.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: And that's what made the Broncos defense so nice yesterday,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: is the Raiders will let Minshew, you know, throw the
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: ball around and make stupid fucking mistakes just like he did, right,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: and so like there's some appeal to that, but like Gardner,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Minshew is not Drake May, and the Patriots are not
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: the Raiders, and they have different ways of handling their quarterbacks.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly, I think you should always be looking at
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I know, it's like defense is such a high variance position.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: That's why we might cap it an MME and we'll
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you know, do little things like that where we're not
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: playing capping it meaning we'll make stop at twenty percent
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: max of any given defense because we want to spread
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it out a little bit. But something like the super
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: chalk Broncos last week was for good reason. It was
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: against a quarterback that they do let chuck it around
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: and beatle Bay and brought it up. That was already
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: said by DJA, and he kind of likes that. I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: agree there too. And then yeah, Juju looking like a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: pro Bowl last night. He was looking pretty good. But
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: again just a product of probably a little bit of trust,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: the opportunities with no Rice and then the setup of
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: maybe Worthies not quite as open and all that sort
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: of thing where it just worked out. I think Juju's
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: only like twenty six or twenty seven. It just feels
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: like he's been in the league forever, because I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: he has right, he's been playing for seven or eight
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: seasons or something already. So Bucks at the Saints. We
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: just saw these Saints last night. Kamara really let some
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: people down. Do you think this is another spot where
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: what do you think that people do with Kamara? Because
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: he's seventy seven hundred He was a letdown last night.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: But it's a pretty good matchup at home in the Dome,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Decent totals on either side, nothing crazy, but at least
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: an opportunity there, So quick thoughts just on this game
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: here Saints Bucks.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I would bet good money Alvin kamaras single digit ownership.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: There's just I mean, just looking at the pricing so
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: far through the first four games, it looks like Drackkings
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: has made a concerted effort to price a lot of
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: these guys up, and seventy seven hundred dollars. Running backs
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: that just let everybody down are not going to be
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: wildly popular this week, especially when they only have a
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: twenty point total. You know, the Bucks defense is solid
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: against the run, they got Vita Baas stuff like that,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: and the Bucks have been playing from ahead a lot,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: so like there's a good chance that it's not going
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: to be a very favorable script. Kamar is a guy
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be a great leverage piece this week, if
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: you have the balls to play, that would be my
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: early week assumption.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm gonna say that if people do get
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: there by the end of the week. Again, so far
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: on the slate, I haven't really seen much at the
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: running back position. Again, maybe later we pick up more spots,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: but let's just say he does. I do want to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: call it out. I know it's like chasing, but is
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it chasing anymore? Like what? They're still not pricing this
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: guy up. He's playing a bunch of snaps, He's getting
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: a ton of targets, he's getting loose and wide open.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Carr trusts him, but Shahed has been the dude there.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, Olave looked invisible last night and you know
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it's been fine. They trust Shaied. He's getting more short
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: passing work too, So I just think he's at least
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: somewhat interesting in this spot. I know, Juwan the baby
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: narrative people were wanting him last night it ended up
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: being Foster Moreau. But I think Shahed is a bit
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: interesting there. Any quick thoughts on him.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, he like it's crazy because I've always been
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: on a lobby slut. But like Shaheeda, if you just
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: watch their games. He's clearly the number one guy. He
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: gets more targets, he gets more down the field, he
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: gets more air yards, he gets more red zone targets.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: It's like it's like he's their dude.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another one too. Carr did leave the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: game at the very end. I know it cost some
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: people in Showdown that needed him down the stretch there
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: for that last drive hoping that he could get him
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: a few more points. But he did leave the game.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So we have to wait and see what that looks like.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Not sure if people think that will help or hurt
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: a guy like Alvin Kamara, but I know the chat
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: just talked about it. Looking at the stone early you
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: get the rush defense with the D grade, So maybe
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: it's a possibility there. You know, he's getting opportunities.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe Taysom Hill's back this week and we get some
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: good a bunch of Taysom Hill at four thousand dollars.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was the other disappointing thing is Kamara got
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: like probably ten less opportunities than I thought he would
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: last night, and there was no Taysom Hill. Like it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: sort of the dream spot you're hoping for. It just
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: didn't work out. Again going against the Chiefs. Anything could happen,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: but Buck's side, did you want to talk a little
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: more on that or do you have any You know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: this is in New Orleans, in the Dome all that,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: but do you have it? Like Baker looked like he
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: was dealing it in a couple of games this season,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: so you know, he's easy to stack. I don't know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: do you have any thoughts on that side.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: He's my favorite player.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I just I just, for whatever reason, I just cannot
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: think of him as a fantas quarterback, especially now that
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: he's priced up to sixty five hundred. I mean, he's
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: now getting priced up with like the actual legit good
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: fantasy quarterbacks, right, and so far this year he has
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: been that good. I just can't believe that they're gonna
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: continue to let him just pass it. And I also
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: just don't believe he can continue to be this efficient.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: But at some point I'm gonna have to just accept that,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Like Baker's a bab mo fo and maybe he is
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: this guy that you can count on for two seventy
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: five and two touchdowns every week.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we prefer the three hundred for the bonus, but
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: it's kind.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Of like I think I'm a Bucky Irving guy, though,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's where I want to get in
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: this game. I feel like Bucky Irving is slowly starting
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: to take over that backfield.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can think too. Also, if Car's out, this
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: will pick up steam at twenty six hundred bucks and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: then maybe it is pounding it in there with Bucky
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Irving what he had eight grand for the combo pack
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: to go up against these Saints. But there is the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: past d D on the board and Baker's I was
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: just gonna say, kind of fair. Godwin's still sub seven k.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Is this like the Burrow Chase Higgins or something? Or
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: how are you gonna look at it?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: You can If Baker Mayfield throws five touchdowns, I will
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I will do the show next week naked. All right,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: There's just no way that that is happening. I love Baker,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: but he's just he's just never gonna throw five touchdowns
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: in a game.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're right, but I mean, at least
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: somewhat interesting here. I like Shaheed on the other side,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: but I like your Irving Buccaneers call at least somewhat
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: interesting for one of the lower total games. So far.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: We've talked about it a little bit. Just the reason
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I brought up the Borough stuff is like it's very similar.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: The seventy percent, the d the setup of the pricing,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: all of that. So it's at least interesting early on. Again,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: we got more games to get to, so let's do
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: just that. Eagles coming off the buy at home, big
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: favorite potential for a blowout here against the Browns, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the Browns just you know, they're looking for any way
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to get out of this Deshaun Watson contract. They just
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: have to be at this point. But it's been real,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: real bad for Deshaun Watson and co.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like just first instinct, this just feels like
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a week I'm all in on. Jalen Hurts like it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Just if he's ever gonna have a get right week,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: it feels like he's gonna do it at home. They're
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: gonna go out beat the Brakes off the shitty Browns.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: The only thing I'm concerned about is I'm pretty sure
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: to is going to be back from the concussion. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: hear aj Brown is trining towards being back. Dallas Goddard's
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: going to be there, Saque's going to be there. So
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: now we're back to you gotta play Jalen Hurts and
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you got a skinny stacking. Who's the right one to
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: skinny stacking with? And that's always playing Russian Roulette? So
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I want to play Hurts. I'm just nervous about who
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the hell I'm gonna stack hum with. And as far
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: as the Browns, fuck it. I won't even have a
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: run back.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Looking at it here Jade and Daniels seventy three hundred
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: sixty four for scary Terry there who hasn't been that scary? Really?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But Jalen Hurts one hundred bucks less than Jayden Daniels.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I know it's a blow, but we always say this
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: is like, how do they get there? Guess what he
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: runs it in? He can throw it. It's whatever, it's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to your point, and I did just check it out.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It looks like all these guys will be back. Makes
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: it really tough. So sometimes you can just put them
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: with one, like with the Divine, but you are burying
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: some lineups at that point. Even though it's pretty condensed,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it's kind of scary of what they are and what again,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: price is not too bad though this could be more
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: like this could be more like the Burrow situation. Right,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you got Jalen Hurts, who got only as he doesn't
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: have to throw five because he could run two in.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Here's the problem, though, the Browns will never push the
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Eagles to forty one points.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Though, that's that's the problem. The only thing is look
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: at these pace grades though plays plays plays.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Let's see it, man, Let's see the They're always so
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: fucking far behind. They're always run.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: They're always running thirty plays in the fourth quarter when
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: they're down thirty points.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: They may just try and run these dudes all game too,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: just to keep Hurts off the field and try not
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: to get married. I did notice that I mentioned this
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: on the Takedown Breakdown too, and you started the show
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: with it, so I'll get your take. It's always good
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: we can hop on and chat about these things. But
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: like last week, everyone was excited because finally we got
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: points and we got scoring and we got touchdowns and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: like this. But if you go back to last week,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: it was like all the nut matchups, Like if you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: looked at the stone and you and back, it's the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: way what we did yesterday. It was like wow, everyone
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: kind of was it, Like even Trevor Lawrence. Everyone hates them.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: The guy was like, if he's gonna have a good game,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be this matchup. Same for Flacco, same for
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: these other dudes. So do you think there's anything with that?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And like a spot like this, it could just be
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Ford trying to run the ball all game and the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Browns trying to keep this as low as possible just
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to keep it hurts off the field.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I think Deshaun Watson's like cursed. I just think that
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: as long as he's their quarterback, they have nothing. Now,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: maybe we're gonna get some amazing news and it'll be
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: what jameis Winston, right he's the backup, maybe they'll start him,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, this becomes like my
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: favorite game of all time.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Right now, I'm all in on this game.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: But as long as Jehan Watson is the quarterback, not
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: only do I have a zero faith in any of
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the Browns, it also kind of kills my excitement about
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the Eagles because I know there's no chance they're gonna
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: get pushed. It's gonna be twenty four to seven in
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and they're just gonna be running zone
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: reads up the middle of Barkley.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes it tricky for sure. I think you're
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: gonna have to pick your spot here and decide. I'll
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: look at it, maybe in the tidbits or something. It'll
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: come up by the end of the week with one
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: of these other dudes that you could just feel good
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: about it and just take your stand that way. You
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: could also just play Jalen Hurts naked. We've seen it work.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: We literally just saw, you know, Lamar Jackson naked lineup. Now,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: he did have two guys running back on the other side,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: but I at least think that's something. Also last week,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: by the way, everybody wanted Amari Cooper at sixty two hundred.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: He's still six thousand. I know it's against the Eagles,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: but I guess that would be just a point to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: bring up. I'm definitely not as excited about it now
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: after seeing how another week played out. But this game
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting. Forty three point total nothing major Titans
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: at home versus the Colts. But I'm already hearing about
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: some old Billy Jean not my quarterback love at forty
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: eight hundred buck. Oh, Will LEVI Will Levis, But the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Mayo man have forty eight hundred bucks. Any thoughts on
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: him and then the rest of this game in general.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, the dude has shown at least last year,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: he has one or two big games in him a year.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: We already saw the Colts this past week aren't afraid
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to getting a little bit of a shootout, especially when
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: they have Flacco who can actually throw a downfilled pass
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: and complete it. So I don't hate it, but I'm
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: pretty sure our boy Richardson's going to be back this week,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: which is going to probably kill the pace of this
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: game quite a bit, right. I mean, you can see
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: the Colts are pretty slow team, and the one time
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: that they've actually had some pace to him is when
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Flaco is leading him. So if Richardson's in, I'm much
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: less interested than Levi's. If Flaco's in, I would be
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: much more interested in Levi's.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to just see one thing quick, because
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the chat just brought up a good point. I don't
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: know how he's popping early on with projections and stuff.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: It does actually look like early you know, stuff with
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Kamara and stuff like that. You can see out there.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: But just to note that, Chad said, you know, remember
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: what Brian Robinson Junior did last week, in that previous game,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that spot that we just talked about going up against
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the Browns. Could it just be Barkley off the buy
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: eighty two hundred. Just jam him in and see what
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: he can do. He's getting eighteen rushes per game. Rush
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: defense isn't great, but you know, or isn't horrible. But
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it did get beat up last week, so at least
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: someone interesting there. We'll see how the week progresses. But
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I'm with you in this game here. Like again, it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: hard to it's hard to get super excited about it,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: but I can see why. It's almost the you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: the situation last week. It's the the Trevor Lawrence spot.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: For a quarterback at forty eight hundred, you could single stack.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I know most would expect that you need to double
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: stack because that's how he gets there, but not necessarily
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: in the sense because of his price tag. Right at
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: forty eight hundred, I think now you can get away
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: with a single stack versus needing a double stack. But
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: they do pass a bunch. We just saw Trevor Lawrence
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: in this matchup. There is decent totals twenty one plus
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: points for both sides. We talk about this all the time.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: It's like, yes, other teams, you know, just above twenty six.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: It's only five points in the difference, but that's more
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: than built into these price tags at forty eight hundred
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: versus that. I know talent level is not the same,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: but we're looking for fantasy points. So definitely think it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: at least somewhat interesting to talk about anything else you
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: want to hit on there with the Colts Titans. If not,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: you could take us into the Chargers at the Broncos.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Just one last thought on the Colts. It's just so
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: deflating when you see Anthony Richardson coming back and then
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: you just see all those Colts wide receivers who are
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: actually four deep at being pretty good. They have four
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: legit wide receivers, and all of their value takes a
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: tremendous decrease in value with richards And being back.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: It just sucks.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: It's crazy to think that Joe Flacco makes a wide
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: receiver room, but that's kind of how it seems.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that too. It's actually funny as
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Dalton is the same way, and I was making fun
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: of the fact that those two quarterbacks used to have
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like what people called the worst contracts of all time,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and now they're holding their teams together. Flackol came back
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to Cleveland last year, looked amazing. You got him still
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: an indie, still coming out slinging it. Got at the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: piers twice down the stretch, almost two touched to him,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: one just fell short and then came back to him
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: again in the next round. And then the the Dalton stuff.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: The minute he goes out and Bryce Young comes back in,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: it's like no action at all for Deontay Johnson or
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Chub Hubbard. It's just a mistake after mistake. And then
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Gang Green brought this one up well before he moved
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: to the next game. But yeah, maybe if Levis gets popular,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: you could go to a guy like Pollard for some leverage.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: There obviously a good matchup on paper. We liked Etn
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Junior last week, even though it was kind of tricky.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: He popped a little bit for us, but it ended
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: up being Biggs B. You just didn't have Tank Bigsby
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: most most didn't have Tank Biggs B. But maybe it's
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Pollard week.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, that Pollard spears.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: I just this year I've been really trying to avoid
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: those those running back situations that seem fifty to fifty
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: and this one maybe a little, you know, like fifty
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: five to forty five Pollard, but it's still too close
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: for me to really want to pay six thousand dollars
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: for a guy that, like I think, is gonna only
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: see about fifty five percent of the opportunities.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And this is trending up. I know people sell, but
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: at sixty three thirty nine, it's like, how did he
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: get there? It was it was Spears getting more work.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of scary when it does come down
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to it. But let's move on. Let's go to the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Chargers at the Broncos Tough one right division. But any
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: any thoughts early on this one. It's cheap price tags,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: but it's also bad, pretty bad quarterbacks for what we've
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: seen so far.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: My first thought is it's an afternoon game.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So if you just completely shit the bed in the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: morning and you are the early games and you need
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: to get really weird in the afternoon, you're gonna have
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: plenty of options to switch to in this game, because
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: you know, just this is one of those games I
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: keep telling you every week I kind of look for
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: two or three games that I just kind of x
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: off of the slate. I just play none of it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And it's been working tremendously so far this year, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: this is one of those games. I look at it
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, who the hell am I trying
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: to get a piece of in this game? And the
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: answer is literally no one like I Just I just
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: exit off. And you know, I guess if things go
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: really bad, maybe I could get into like a Justin
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Herbert Lab Macconkie stack or something like that. But I
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: if things are going that bad, I'd probably just give
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: up on the day. To be honest with you.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think I love these the previous
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: game we were to talk about JT's that again, if
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you're going back to sermon, I didn't even love them
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: last week. Again, so far on the slate, though, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: haven't seen a ton of running back options, So I
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: guess maybe you could plug him in.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Not at six thousand dollars, man, He's just not a
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: six thousand dollars even when he has the backfield to himself.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: He's not a six thousand dollar running back.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: That was the situation last week. He kind of had
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: a better spot and it was fifty seven hundred. You're
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: still like, No, That's why I done went there, because like,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: even at that price, it's not appealing. It's not like
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: we got the Tracy Junior at forty three.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, h that's a different story.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on this one. I guess that,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: you know. I just it's such a tough game to
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: get to. It's affordable, but these options kind of suck
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: if you wanted anything. The only guy I kind of
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: like here is a one off is Courtland Sutton. Still
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: a fair price. He's been out there a ton. They
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: are throwing the ball, he's getting the targets. It's kind
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: of could you see him have an okay game and
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: then you would be a guy that you could just
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: plug in as a one off at fifty three hunderd.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: But I don't really love that spot.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I would say that Courtland Sutton idea. I would nix
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: it if I were you, Thank you, thank you, thank you,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Than if I were you. Yeah, you could also say
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: if you were going that way to you know, instead
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of mixing and put him in with bon Nicks, because
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: the only way he probably gets there is dragging along.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: But at fifty four hundred bucks. But I don't like that,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: so I may just nix that idea to your original pun.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: But let's go on. Let's go to the Steelers at
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the Raiders and the defense thirty seven hundred bucks for
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the Steelers. But Fields has already been talked about in
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the chat. Other spots here. Maybe you can get to
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Bowers looked incredible last week. Maybe we'll get the Devontae
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Adam news this week. I know we got the the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Jets just fired their coach, so maybe that's the spot.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'll have to wait and see. I
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: heard the Ravens are in line for them. There's other
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: teams lining up the Bills. But thoughts on this Steelers
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Raiders game, second of the afternoon games.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Another gross one, like another one that I don't like
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: at all. If you were going to force me to
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: get in here, I would consider Josh Field stacks. But
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I've already seen three stacks that I like infinitely more
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: than a Justin Field stack.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: So this is just another game.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to struggle to find somebody, right, Like I
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: was not impressed with Trey Tucker last week, wasn't impressed
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: with Madison, you know, Like you know Bowers had the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: one really nice play. But outside of him, there's really
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: not a lot of guys that I'm looking to target
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: at D because you need such high ceilings from your
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: players that I just don't think that you're gonna get
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: many high ceiling plays from this game environment.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: What about a Naji bounce back. Everybody liked him there
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: last week, especially over on FanDuel because he was so cheap,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: but with the running backs out, I'm not sure the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: exact situation this week for Warren.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: You're never Mahomes, I'm never Nasey.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go that Allen works better double end there,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: yeah NEVERI the match up on paper maybe, and if
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: people get excited about fields by the end of the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: week and pickens and stuff like that, maybe you could
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: go to Naji. But that's just an early thought. Naj
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: with the Steelers, we just talked about Minshew getting crushed
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: up and how they get after him. I know you're
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: never him, but just saying just in general ideas for
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: people to throw in out there.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And then I always sure that Minshew is even gonna
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: start this week, isn't there? H? I mean, didn't AOC
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: finish the second half of that game? I thought I
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: was watching Yeah, like maybe maybe he's gonna get some
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: run up there, And honestly, the offense had a little
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: bit of a pulse when he was out there, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: it's not like it's hard to be better than Garner Minshew.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to see a couple of those
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: things now live over on here because obviously a true
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: first look, we're going back through it. But I didn't
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: see any news on Warren yet. I was checking him first.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. All I can find on Minshew is
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: that he was picking his nose on the sideline, eating
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: it live on television. Wow.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Tough, look, tough look, that's not good.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, so moving on, I don't know. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: will have to wait and see on that one. But again,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: not something I'm super excited about anyway. These next couple
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: of games, I guess will be better to look at,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: but we'll see what your take is between the two
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: of them. Let's start with Falcons at the Panthers here.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on this one?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Like finally an afternoon game that I'm excited about. The
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Panthers like, they're like they're kind of like a dream matchup.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: They play no defense and they typically do enough on offense.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: You know, they struggled this last week, but even when
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: they did that, they were still running their starters out
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: there late into the fourth. Is that, even though when
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: they were getting their asses kicked. So like, I'm pretty
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: warm to the Panthers, always like not only playing Panthers
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: in my lineups, but playing the team against them. And
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I think that they offer good runbacks. And the last
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: time we saw the Falcons, they finally their offense finally look.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Like world beaters.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: So this is a game that I would be probably
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the most interested in in the afternoon, just because I
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: know this last game we're going to talk about is
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: going to be insanely popular.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this price seems insane. I don't care if you
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: think he's good, bad, ugly, all of the above Bejon
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Robinson's sixty six hundred bucks. I gotta see if he
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: gets popular or something at that, but I just don't care.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: That's way too cheap. Again, he's been disappointing eleven, twelve,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: sixteen Fantasy points, but those, you know, those are all
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: one shoelace tackle away from being twenty point plus games.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And at sixty six hundred, maybe he does pick up
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: steam because of that. But I see that right away.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I know some are talking in the chat about Cousins
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: having that big game last week and is he going
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: to be back because of that? And he's got the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: London's the Moon, He's the Ray, Ray McLeod's, Kyle Pitts
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. London will have to wait and see.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: He left that game at the end. I'm not sure
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: if there's an update on him yet, But anything you
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: want to add with the Bijon or Kirk Cousins stuff.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, first of all, to me, the more
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: interesting play here would be an Andy Dalton stack running
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: back with Beijon. Like that sounds pretty interesting to me
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: because Bijon is going to have that big game. It
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: is coming up, and if he can't do it against
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: the Panthers, I don't know. I don't know when it's
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: ever going to be, but to not have any Falcons
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: in my lineup, like, I'll probably have a rule where
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: I will force at least one Falcon into all my
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: lineups because somebody from the Falcons is going to have
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: a big game because it's against the Panthers.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: It's just a rule.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Panthers real, real bad, So it'll be interesting to see, yeah,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: real bad, see how that one shakes out. But I
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: definitely have a early interest in that, and especially if
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: there is any recency bias like the chat's mentioning where
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: people go to the Cousins stacks. Very easy for me
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: just to move in on Bijon and just hope that
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: he thrashes these guys already a great matchup, everything going
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: for them. I think it could be a good spot.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: And then the last game of the slate has the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: best afternoon dame, Is this the best total now on
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the slate? Let me double check that, but go ahead,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you can talk about this one. It's Cowboys and Lions.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's tied, right, fifty two and a half.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: First, I'm fifty two and a half.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Also, if I'm doing my math right, they look like
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: they're both around fifty two.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: And a half.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It is that, Yeah, you got it?
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I mean.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: This game just you know, I I'm very confident the
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Lions are gonna do their part. I feel very confident
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: that they will get to that twenty seven twenty eight
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: implied total.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: The Cowboys, I'm not so sure.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I will say this just reeks of one of those
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: afternoon games where everybody's gonna play it. They're gonna have
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: four or five pieces of this in their lineup, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: then the final score is gonna be like, you know,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: twenty eight to seven or something like that, and it's
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: gonna be a huge disappointment. So I will say, this
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: game doesn't scare the shit out of me like one
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: of those games, like I've got to have a piece
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: of this game or I'm screwed right, Like I'm not
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: feeling that, but I do feel that way about the Lions.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Like the Lions and the Falcons, I'm gonna just have
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of Like I'm gonna have pieces of
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: them in my lineups, and hopefully things go well early
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: and I'll already have these shocky pieces in the afternoon.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: If not, maybe I'll switch over to a less owned piece,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: or switch over maybe to the Panthers or god forbid,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: the cow Boys players.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna just ask that since we have
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: so much time left here, and like you know, we
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: don't have to go the whole hour, but just so
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: if people have more questions, throw him in the chat
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: or stuff you think we didn't touch on. I thought
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: this was funny from Jordan. I really could see that happening.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Everyone's gonna talk about the Cousins for recency bias, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: then Jean's thirty five percent and people all flip over
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to him and he ends up being super popular early. Look,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: he definitely does pop into the mix, like some of
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the early guys popping at running Back that I'm seeing
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: across the industry are like Alvin Kamara, Najie Harris. Doesn't
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: look like people are gonna give Alvin Kamara a break.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Bijon pops up Chewba Hubbard in that game. But again,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Andy Dalton is that we should note that, So let's
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: let's start there. I don't I'm gonna comment a little
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: on that last game, but I just looked it up.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Andy Dalton, even with the way that game ended, is
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: still gonna be the starter, it says, so he's at
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: fifty two hundred in that spot. I also think this
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: is interesting. Again, it's all how the morning goes, like
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you said, Djen, but much cheaper and not much but
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: six hundred bucks to eleven hundred less for Dak Prescott
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: than that Jaden Daniels, Lamar Jackson spot four hundred for
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff. There is stackable options on these sides. Lamb
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Tolbert popped in last game, Ferguson. On this side, if
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you want the run game, you could plug in dak
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: CD and somebody else with one of Montgomery your gibbs, Like,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: there's definitely ways to go in that game. So there's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: those two the cousins stuff we talked about. I'm not
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: as not that you were. I'm saying, but I'm not
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: really as much as the chat was in love with
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Fields a cheap will Levis. We talked about that Jalen
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Hurts for one hundred bucks less than Jade and Daniels Baker.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I had a little bit of early love for Kyler
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and love definitely in that game. So maybe I am
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: gonna be okay with my early take and see where
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: this ownership goes on this first game. But do you
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: have any you know, extra thoughts after looking through all
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the games now of how you sort of think it's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: gonna shake out and what you might be doing.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Well, just last week I was able to find four
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: or five guys that I liked that right around like
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: four thousand dollars, you know, Tracy at forty three hundred.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: You know, there was there was plenty of guys. There's
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: no shortage of guys that I was finding that I
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: was comfortable playing last week around four dollars, which you know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: when you have those guys in your lineup, it makes
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: building good lineups so much better, right, But this week
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not really seeing those guys. Like just going through here,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of dudes, Like even the dudes
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: that you think might be a good value are all
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: getting priced up, like literally everybody else. Jayden Reads priced
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: up to seven thousand, Wicks is up to fifty two hundred.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: They priced up tant Dell the sixty two hundred. It
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: just seems like everybody got priced up, like DraftKings is
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: catching on. They're not pricing the quarterbacks where they are
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: but where they should be, but everybody else they are.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: And with that, I'm getting a little nervous about, like
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: how the hell am I going to build my lineups
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: this week? Because I'm not seeing those free squares that
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: that I was this past week. So that's what's really
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: consuming my thoughts at the moment.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it stood out to me as well. I was
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: just gonna say that, like I named a bunch of
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks I can feel good with. Once you have your quarterbacks,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: you can kind of figure out, you know, how you're
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: stacking them with, which pass catchers if you want doubles
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: or triples or whatever it is you're looking at. But
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: didn't see it with the running backs. And maybe that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: why the early stuff around the industry is still in
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: on Alvin Kamara, Kamara, Kamara, Potato, potato, you know, Bijon Robinson,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Najee Harris, just going with those spots, and I think
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: as the week goes on, this one will certainly pop up.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, we got an f here on the stone.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, the stone's the best tool in DFS. If
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: you don't have it, go to ship a nation and
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: get it, because this is what sets you up for successes.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: The week goes on, it's barely filled out yet, but
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: this is just a starting point. I do think that
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: is somewhat interesting. So maybe people land there the NASE
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: stuff up against the D plus could see that. You know, Pollard,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I saw pop a little. I'm with you, kind of
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: worried more about the spears stuff that's a D plus.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Camara's going against the D I see this stuff I
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: think it's really people are going with the matchups. That's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: what they're seeing, right, and that's where they're gonna get after.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I do worry, Like I said a little bit about
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: this Ravens commander's game. We'll see though it depends if
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: the ownership actually get so. I guess a second thought
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: for you. Then, last week the Ravens and Bengals didn't
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: get super popular, even after the Stone loved it. We
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: talked about it, We spent ten to fifteen minutes on
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: it on the show. Because people don't like stacking up
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, you know, is in Flowers It ended up
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: being Bateman. Is it gonna be like le or Andrews
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: or the Kohler Bear? Now who they renamed this guy?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: He got in there. And then even on the other side,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, Terry McLaurin, Jaden Daniels, do you really
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: want Ertz? Do you really want to risk McCaffrey for
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: large field tournaments and hope that he has a big game.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: He's getting a couple of catches here and there. But
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: what's your take on that?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: But the the stacking Lamar, what are we talking? What
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: was your question?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think this game actually gets as popular as
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it originally seems, or is it just one that people
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I think that.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I think the Commanders get as popular. I don't think
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: the Ravens do. I just I think it's gonna be
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: the Commander's side. It's gonna be very popular. So, like
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I think it's gonna be more the team
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: is gonna be popular than the game is gonna be popular.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: I think the most popular game will probably be that
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Cowboys and Lions. But as soon as I say that,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: most of the pieces in that game that people are
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: gonna want to play are not cheap, so and I'm
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: not seeing the discounts where you're gonna save the money
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: to be able to get four or five pieces from
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: the Lions and Cowboys game. So this he actually seems
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: like the tightest pricing week I can remember. Like I'm
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: just building lineups in my head, and I'm coming like
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: two thousand dollars over on all of them.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: That's the note, right until we get some running back value.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: We don't if we do. Unless we do is a
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: better way to put it. We don't have the thirty
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: five hundred Tucker Craft. We don't have the forty three
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: hundred Tracy Junior. And so even though these quarterback prices
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: are being kept in check to what we've just seen
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: all season, it's like the minute you put them in
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: with lamp. Even if you're going a Jamison Williams or
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a David Montgomery on the other side for a little
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: bit of savings, Ferguson's five K, Tolbert is five K.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: These prices are up there. Maybe it's Turpin that you
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: go with, but then it doesn't feel as good because
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: the snap share of the targets all that is it possible, Yes,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: coaxes out all these things, but my point would be
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: you nailed it, like that's really what it comes down to.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And then even some of the running backs in the
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: better spots, you know there is potential for splits. What
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: if Warren's back for Harris. We already talked about spears
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: with Pollard. So I would say the pricing is fair.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: But what's why it becomes super tight and restrictive early
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: in the week is because we don't really have any
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: sign of the value and we don't really have any
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: sign of it showing up either.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: That that makes Andy Dalton and old will leave as
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: jeans a lot more appealing because not only are they
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: very cheap themselves, but they also have pretty affordable stackable
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: options with them, right.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean especially like even Ridley here.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: But the Ridley would be the one I would probably
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: go with. I probably I probably just single stacking and
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: then do part of them Hopkins part of them Ridley.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you do that, you just get away
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: with whatever you want because you're in for well, it's
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: less than ten k for Levison Hopkins. It's ninety nine hundred.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: That's by pricing for a combo pack of didn't DeAndre
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Hopkins used to be like eighty seven hundred when he.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Played back in the day. Yeah, he would often be
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the most expensive wide receiver on the slate.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, any thoughts on this, Yeah, we alread talked about
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: That's all I was saying, Like Turpin or somebody could
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: be a play for sure, and again people will force
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it in there, and I won't worry about that as
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: much right now. But Kenny says about that game feels
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: like it could be a massive trap to me, lines
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: just run it, clock ticks off little by little, but
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: full game stack he won't be on. I think that's
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: definitely a possibility. And then it gets more scary because
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Montgomery and give both priced at that price.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: And to Kenny's point, it's just like last week, like, yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: you're gonna if you want to full stack that game,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Like you're putting almost all of your salary towards that game,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: right because the pieces you're gonna want a stack are
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: gonna be very expensive. And then you basically are playing
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: like four punts from other games, So you would need
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: that game to literally be like another forty one to
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: thirty eight type game and have all your pieces hit
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: and then hope that your punts hit from the other
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: games so that you could afford the prices of those
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: cowboys and lines that you put in your lineup.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you almost get forced into whatever the early value
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: is automatically once you go even if you go dak
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: lamb Ferguson with one of Montgomery your Gibbs, your money's used.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Like you've got quite a bit all in now on
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: the table on four spots. Great game environment, no doubt,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: But then it's like, okay, now you're just sort of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: filling in the pieces with the same as everybody else.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I do think Chris, this would be more of a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: late swap. I've coined this this week. A new ten
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: was a late swa opportunity. It's an opportunity to late
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: swap to a guy that is in a popular game
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: that not anybody is really on. So there's your sw
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: opportunity of the week. Would be somewhere that you could
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: get into that game that others aren't going to and doubtell,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: regardless of how ownership shakes out, is most certainly in
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: that camp. It's just there's too much other stuff going
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: on within that game for him to be super popular.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: So I definitely think that could be a thing.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I see Evan.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I see Evan over there in the chat saying that Ray,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Ray and Bateman are the only value, and like, if
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: that's what the value is this week, well then there's
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: no value because I have zero interest in playing the
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: third wide receiver from the Falcons, or like the third
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: or fourth passing option for the Ravens.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: Like those just not guys that interest me.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that comment, but I will say that,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: just going back to the boom that one Ray Ray
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: and Bateman only value. I wonder was he just talking
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: during that game? Now it seems like he was. We
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: were talking about the Ravens at that point, so you know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: other stuff. So okay, but I guess that would be
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: the thing is if you're going to Cousin stacks. That's
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: another thing to Djen is like Cousins. If Beijon becomes
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: more popular by the end of the week because there
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: just is no good running back plays that pop up,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: that would happen, probably leaves Cousins because the ownership does
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: always get spread out. We'll wait on the London news,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: but are people gonna actually go to Mooney McCloud stuff
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: like that? So you could double stack that one up
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: with Mooney mclod or Mooney McLoud pits pick two of
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: the three and then you don't even need to run
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: it back with the Panthers and just move on.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Because as we know, you never want naked cousins.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know that's another one you can have. But
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't think.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: See, you don't even know the college football streets. You
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: don't remember a hendon hooker. We always played a naked hooker.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: We were always big.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did hear that guy, So I do know
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about. Now, Yeah, that's why I was
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: wondering when you brought it up, But I was gonna say,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: it's all gonna depend on London for that even still though,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: because if somehow London's in at sixty seven hundred, that
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: changes it up now again anyway, because now you're back
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: at sixty two, sixty seven and then fifty three or
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: forty four. But I guess this stack has the chance
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: to pick up steam just because it's a good mad
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and it's one that actually fits and allows you to
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: still have money left over to play the good plays.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So you know something else I might factor in just
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: looking at the overall slate. You always want to take
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the whole slate into consideration. While that last game looks
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: really good, it doesn't help your lineup necessarily beyond the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: other spots.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: And I think there's a chance Jonathan Brooks might be
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: for the Panthers, might start getting ramped back up this week,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: so you know, he's not gonna have a very big role,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: but he is off the They did activate him off
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: the pup list.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's already a mess too, because it's another
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: one where you're still seeing Sanders out there more than enough,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: kind of like the Spears Pollard thing.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Tuba Hubbard's could I don't know why they're rushing Jonathan
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Brooks back like Tuba Hubbard's awesome.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people seem to think he could be that spot too.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: But just to go back to that and finish up
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: my thought, I just want to try and explain a
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: little bit better. I think I don't feel like I did,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: but just to say kind of like what I said
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: with the Burrow stuff last week, you brought it up
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and then I hit it like once you went to
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: those four Burrow Higgins Chase and I know Zay or
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Henry could work, but I think a lot of people
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: went to Henry when they went that to that game,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: you did just land in the spot of Tucker Craft
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the Broncos d A Slaton or something like that, where
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: you just had very popular TWOV two's and three V threes.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I would worry about that on this slate the same
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: as it currently stands, where if you are in on
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the Prescott Ceedee Lamb pick one with one guy from
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the Lions, you almost get forced in to like find
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the best values everywhere else and you kind of even
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: if that game does hit and go off and do
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: what you want you back yourself into a corner, not
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: where you're necessarily going to be duped because you've got
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: to fill out nine spots, but you are putting yourself
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: into a corner on that line up versus if you
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: had something like a Levis Ridley or a Kirk Cousins
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Mooney if London's out or something like that, and then
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: fill it out and have even more flexibility while not
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: being in on the exact same popular spots that everybody
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: else is. Agreat anything else, anything else you want to
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: hit on before we get out here.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm excited to get back after it. This
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: was like the first week all year where I didn't
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: go into the afternoon with a big sweat.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: The day got off to a good start, you know,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: I had some Tea Higgins and I had Nico Collins.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, we're kicking ass. I still
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: have my Jordan love stacks all waiting for the afternoon.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: I was feeling good, and then that Coltson and JAG's
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: game went off, and then of course the the Bengals
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: game went off, and I was like, oh, well, now
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: we're dead. And it was kind of the first time
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: all year I didn't go into the afternoon with like
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: thinking I could win a GPP today. So I'm ready
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: to get back after it this week and hope that
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I don't whip on the game.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: That's the slate breaker.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And this is another one here. Just
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about that too. That's another
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: spot could consider it. Just again, it's all how the
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: the slate shapes out. Maybe it's just Baker with godwinner,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Baker with Evans, and you just hope they get there.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. That's another quick thing
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I'll add. Everybody saw Burrow doubles like Burrow with Chase
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: and Higgins go off last week. They'll you will see
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: those stacks much more prevalent than even normal this week
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: because everyone just assumed that's how you have to build
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: now because it worked last week. So some of those
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: skinny stacks with just the quarterback and one receiver certainly
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: an interesting way to go this week, especially when you
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: don't have a of values like we're saying right now,
• 50:01
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• 50:04
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