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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday Pro tenth. I'm your host, Tom
- 0:03or the Akron game in one hundred and forty three days, the game against
- 0:06Michigan two hundred and thirty four days. We are back to football today after
- 0:11a brief diversion to basketball a couple times in the last few days. Ohio
- 0:14State spring game coming up Saturday, April thirteenth at noon, that is this
- 0:19Saturday. The forecast looks absolutely perfect. Cannot wait to get back out there.
- 0:25What football on the Horseshoe always a good thing. Spring in Ohio,
- 0:28always a good thing. Looking forward to that. We will also be at
- 0:31Ohio State later on today talking to Ryan Day, a new Ohio State running
- 0:35backs coach, Carlos Laughlin. We'll be back inside practice on Friday. Lots
- 0:40of good content coming for you this week at Buckeye Huddle and at YouTube dot
- 0:43com slash Buckeye Huddles. So you have that all to look forward to this
- 0:46week. Today, you're going to be hearing from a new coach who's also
- 0:50an old coach at Ohio State. Matt Greary was on the staff for the
- 0:53Buckeyes back in twenty twenty two. Then he left. He was the co
- 0:57defensive coordinator at Indiana last year. Now he's back as the safety's coach for
- 1:00the Buckeyes this year. So what has it been like for Matt Greery to
- 1:03be back in Columbus with the Buckeyes this spring. Yeah, it's been great.
- 1:07It's been highly competitive. I would say he's in the film room is
- 1:11highly competitive. The field work is highly competitive. You know, You've got
- 1:15a bunch of guys, a good mix of veterans and young guys, and
- 1:18I think we're you know, we talk about expectation being constantly on the rise,
- 1:23and that's what we've been able to do so far. No disrespect to
- 1:26the Indiana Hoosiers or their players, but there is really not a close analog
- 1:30to Caleb Downs on that Indiana roster. Rary being back in Columbus, well,
- 1:37he has one of the best safeties in the entire nation at his disposal
- 1:40this year. What has it been like to have Caleb Downs in your unit?
- 1:45He's really special. He's really special. First off, he puts the
- 1:48work in right, so you could take you know, talent is a god
- 1:51given thing, but the disciplined skill that you develop over time in your life.
- 1:53He's been able to do that, right, He's a really disciplined guy.
- 1:56He's the same every day from a mentality standpoint. He's the same every
- 1:59day from a work at standpoint. So you see that translate to the field.
- 2:02He's probably in the film room more than anybody on the entire defense maybe,
- 2:07you know. And he puts that type of effort in and he's done
- 2:09a great job of, you know, pushing the envelope with other guys to
- 2:13make sure the standards that way. One of the other projected starters at safety
- 2:15is Leith and Ransom over at that bandit position. Now, he has really
- 2:19not been on the field much this spring as he's working his way back slowly
- 2:23from an injury. Real concerns about him being ready for the fall. They're
- 2:25just sort of being cautious and that has actually allowed some of the younger guys
- 2:30in that room because like Jade Bonzu, Jalen McLain, they get a lot
- 2:34more early action than you might have expected this spring. Yeah, first off,
- 2:38its great for your guys to be able to get opportunity as on those
- 2:39guys to maximize those opportunities and me to have them ready for those right.
- 2:43So I think it's been a good mix of that and then from you know,
- 2:46preparation standpoint. You know, we dealt with this a little bit too
- 2:47when Lathan was out and had missed a spring before. You know, he
- 2:51had two years ago a really good, successful, you know, he's a
- 2:53Thorpe semi finalist type season for him. There's a lot of metal work,
- 2:58you know, there's a lot of work in the film room to say,
- 2:59Okay, what does it take to be prepared to be able to cross the
- 3:02white lines and to be ready to go, you know, because because the
- 3:06game doesn't care if you've taken spring ball or not, right, you gotta
- 3:08be ready to go. All right. So we've just talked about a couple
- 3:12of different groups of guys, one being Caleb Downs, one being some younger
- 3:14guys who really haven't played a whole heck of a lot so far. So
- 3:16how different is it for Matt Greary to be coaching someone like Caleb Downs as
- 3:21compared to some of the younger and maybe less experienced guys. Yeah. I
- 3:24think everybody's health the same standard, you know, So I don't assume anything.
- 3:29Everybody's going to be coached the same way, whether you know, It
- 3:30doesn't matter if it's Cleed Downs coming out of a break or it's Jelen McLain
- 3:34coming out of a break. They're coached the same way and the expectations the
- 3:36same. But anytime that you have vets at high level players that are your
- 3:39hardest workers, that means something right and the guys are able to follow suit
- 3:43from that step point. Moll Lathan Ransom and Caleb Downs both known as smart
- 3:46players, veteran players who really know the whole defense, know what they're supposed
- 3:52to be doing, can maybe mix and match playing some different spots. Does
- 3:55that give Garary an option to maybe be a little more flexible and put those
- 3:59guys in different positions this fall, Yeah, you do, because you have
- 4:02specific job responsibilities within those but they become more interchangeable and fluid in how you
- 4:09can function with on those pieces. You know, it doesn't it's not like
- 4:12a true strong or a free safety, you know what I mean. Those
- 4:15guys are able to compliment each other and you have more flexibility within your packaging
- 4:18to put those guys in a position to make place. I want to touch
- 4:20a little bit more on the play of second year player safety Jayden Bonsu he
- 4:25read shirt freshmen. He was the subject of some signing day drama back in
- 4:30December of twenty twenty two, ended up signing with the Buckeyes. Had a
- 4:32relatively quiet first year, but really sounds like he's making the most of his
- 4:36opportunities this spring. Yeah, he's been a guy that's been on the rise,
- 4:41you know, to me, from where he was when he started spring
- 4:44vault to where he is now, He's made more plays at practice. His
- 4:46eye discipline is better, his understanding of the defense is better, which allows
- 4:49you to be able to play free and be able to play fast. So
- 4:53that's what I've seen so far, and I can I expect that to continue.
- 4:55And from one New Jersey native safety to another. Let's talk about Jalen
- 4:59McLay brew freshman this year. He's another guy who it's early. He's only
- 5:04out there in a lot of cases because of some of the older guys who
- 5:08maybe aren't playing as much. But another guy who maybe is making the most
- 5:12of his opportunities. So far, he's been great. He's been great.
- 5:15He first off, we do a thing where we track how well you run
- 5:18to the ball if you practice. One of the things that we grained right.
- 5:20So you can talk about all the schematics that you want. Coach Knowles
- 5:24has all that, but if you're not running to the ball, you're not
- 5:26playing good defense, right, So we track that and he's one of the
- 5:28guys that every single practice is one of our highest grade guys running to the
- 5:31ball. So he's been awesome from an efforts standpoint, first attitude, he's
- 5:34in early, he puts the work in and he's made a bunch of plays
- 5:38out here. So now I'm excited about Jenile McLain. For sure. There
- 5:41are some new faces in the safety unit. You've got guys missing time.
- 5:44There's always a lot of stuff, a lot of moving parts this time of
- 5:46the year. So how confident is Matt Greary in that safety unit even given
- 5:53all of those different pieces? Yeah, I do. I do, And
- 5:57you know, it's been an opportunity if you have a couple guys that are
- 5:59are not out there, so you're able to continue to grow the depth and
- 6:01be able to see what guys can do and you have increased reps from that
- 6:03standpoint. So I do feel confident, you know, I feel confident in
- 6:06the guys that you know, how they've performed so far. The spring and
- 6:10the guys that haven't been out there, I feel confident from what their abilities
- 6:14are, what I've seen on film, and then the mental preparation. From
- 6:16that standpoint, now, I would go back to refer to you know what
- 6:18late it was like a couple of years ago and taking that same blueprint.
- 6:21When the buck Geys added Caleb Downs, that obviously was a huge addition for
- 6:26this year's team, bringing one of the top players in the entire nation to
- 6:29the Ohio State defense. But can coaching someone like that maybe be a little
- 6:32bit of a challenge at times? What kind of challenge does it bring to
- 6:36bring in someone like that who's not only one of the best athletes in the
- 6:41nation, but also one of the headiest players as well. I wouldn't say
- 6:44weird, I'd say it's great, right, And because his preparation is so
- 6:47high level, it challenges you as a coach to be an elite teacher,
- 6:51right, because he's going to be on his game, he said, coaching
- 6:55a professional player, right. He understands the concepts in the game so well,
- 6:58he's put so much time into it. As a coach, you better
- 7:00be matching or equoing that, right. Going above and beyond that, because
- 7:04if not, he's going to be a step ahead of the coach, right.
- 7:08So it's been awesome to be able to push each other to make each
- 7:12other better. He's got a great understanding and feel for the game. He's
- 7:15a great young man. The work ethic is really high level. So every
- 7:16value that you would look for, not just for skill or intangible seeing that,
- 7:20but who he is as a person. I can't say enough about who
- 7:23Caleb downs has been awesome. Mentioned off the top of the show that Greary
- 7:26was a co DC at Indiana last year. You're in the same division as
- 7:30the Buckeyes, or you were at least before they got rid of the divisions
- 7:33in the Big Ten. But you're kind of in a little bit of a
- 7:36different world there too. Different level of athlete, different level of resource,
- 7:41different level of everything. So what did McCrary learn from his year at Indiana.
- 7:46I think that you learn different ways to be able to do things,
- 7:49whether it's taking the ball away or tackling methods, or you know the way
- 7:53that it's taught from other defensive coaches. So to learn from a different tree
- 7:57and thought process in philosophy, I try to I pride myself on being a
- 8:01teacher, which means that you better always be learning right or you're getting behind.
- 8:03So I would say, yeah, just different ways to be able to
- 8:07maybe do similar techniques or things that have to be done from a defensive principal
- 8:11standpoint, and then you know, bringing that to the table as you step
- 8:13back and you say, Okay, here's how I've always done it, or
- 8:16I've done it in the Jym Knowles system, right, and then you're in
- 8:18a different defensive system and how does that get executed? And then you can
- 8:24blend some of those or pick what you know what you like from there.
- 8:26So a chance to reflect, I'd say sometimes when you see something every day,
- 8:30it can be harder to notice changes than when you go away for a
- 8:33while and then come back. You maybe see your kids every day and doesn't
- 8:35seem like they're growing, and then the grandparents show up and go, holy
- 8:37cow, you've grown three inches. It's the last time I saw you.
- 8:41Well, it can be kind of the case with a football team as well.
- 8:45How different and how much better does this defense look for Matt Greary than
- 8:48it did when he left a year ago? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
- 8:52I think anytime that you're no matter where you're coaching, right, you have
- 8:56principles of defense and a way to be able to play defense, whether you're
- 9:01how you tackle or how you play the red zone or different things like that,
- 9:03and there's metrics to be able to track that, and some improvement was
- 9:05made, not enough in my opinion. You know, I move there.
- 9:09There were strides from that standpoint, and then yeah, when you come back
- 9:13into it, you say, Okay, the system here has developed in a
- 9:16year that I was gone, right, and then maybe I'm able to develop
- 9:18a little bit as a coach too, and from a positional coach or a
- 9:20coordinator mindset, things like that, and then you're able to mesh ideas and
- 9:24come back and you learn, hey, what's the new that's happened over a
- 9:26year. And then I was able to see the Big ten from a different
- 9:28lens as well, you know, so I think that's valuable. Well,
- 9:31I mentioned off the top of the show. We will be back at the
- 9:33Woody Hayes Athletic Center later on today, Wednesday, probably eleven A. M
- 9:39Ish will be streaming interviews with Ohio state head coach Ryan Day. New running
- 9:43backs coach Carlos Locklet will be streaming those live at YouTube dot com slash Buckeye
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