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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Wednesday, January twenty ninth.
- 0:03Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Or. The Texas game is in
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- 0:40Speaker 1: the meantime, we're talking Ohio State quarterbacks for starting our
- 0:44Speaker 1: positional preview for the heading into the Spring, which somehow
- 0:48Speaker 1: is kind of already slightly around the corner. So anyway,
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- 1:16Speaker 1: and Tony Gerdaman of coincidentally Buckeye Huddle and Tony, we're
- 1:20Speaker 1: gonna be talking about the position by position breakdown at quarterback.
- 1:23Speaker 1: This is a position where it is an open position.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Will Howard is gone, Devin Brown is gone, Aaron Noland
- 1:29Speaker 1: has gone. Now they've got three guys on the roster
- 1:32Speaker 1: right now. Might be bringing in someone else in the
- 1:34Speaker 1: portal after the spring. We'll see how that all goes,
- 1:37Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that in a minute, but let's start.
- 1:39Speaker 1: We're just going to run down the depth chart from
- 1:41Speaker 1: the end of the season. We knew Julian Sayin was
- 1:43Speaker 1: the number three quarterback for most of this year, so
- 1:45Speaker 1: we're going to start with him. He's someone who came
- 1:48Speaker 1: in last year with a lot of hype. We saw
- 1:51Speaker 1: a little bit, you saw some flashes from him, but
- 1:53Speaker 1: obviously a true freshman season in a year where they
- 1:56Speaker 1: have a lot on the line, we haven't seen probably
- 1:59Speaker 1: nearly as much Julian Sanez. We will this spring, but
- 2:02Speaker 1: it feels kind of appropriate to start the quarterback preview
- 2:05Speaker 1: for this year with him. Yeah.
- 2:08Speaker 2: I think he's the guy that everybody talks about when
- 2:11Speaker 2: you talk about twenty twenty five starting quarterback. That's locally
- 2:15Speaker 2: and that's also nationally given his five star status, and
- 2:21Speaker 2: you get him from Alabama after Nick Saban retires, and
- 2:24Speaker 2: he was the closest guy to in terms of the
- 2:29Speaker 2: depth chart, like he's the highest guy remaining after Will
- 2:32Speaker 2: Howard and Devin Brown left because he was the third
- 2:35Speaker 2: string guy and had, you know, sort of maybe begin
- 2:38Speaker 2: battling for that backup job late in the season. And
- 2:42Speaker 2: he's the only guy on the roster that has thrown
- 2:43Speaker 2: a pass, so he was I believe five of twelve
- 2:47Speaker 2: this year. Lincoln Kenels talk did not throw pass. We'll
- 2:50Speaker 2: talk about him, but when you talk about the most experienced.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I don't know that he qualifies as the most experienced,
- 2:56Speaker 2: but he got the most experience in twenty twenty four,
- 3:00Speaker 2: which I think is where you.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Start the most recent experience for sure, and you know,
- 3:06Speaker 1: he's someone who fits. I don't know, we'll see exactly
- 3:10Speaker 1: what his game looks like when we get to see
- 3:13Speaker 1: him a little more this spring, although I was going
- 3:16Speaker 1: to say, you know, we'll see if he's as mobile
- 3:19Speaker 1: as Will Howard, but you always that's always so hard
- 3:21Speaker 1: to judge in the spring when they have those black
- 3:23Speaker 1: no contact jerseys on, everyone looks like an All American
- 3:26Speaker 1: with the black no contact jersey on because you can, oh, look,
- 3:29Speaker 1: he's he's fearless, running running right between the tackles. Like, yeah,
- 3:32Speaker 1: it's easy to be fearless in the black jersey. It's
- 3:34Speaker 1: easy to look fast and everyone has to pull up
- 3:36Speaker 1: when they get near you. But he does feel like
- 3:38Speaker 1: someone who potentially fits in very well with what Ohio
- 3:42Speaker 1: State was doing on offense this year. We'll see what
- 3:45Speaker 1: the arm strength looks like when we get, you know,
- 3:47Speaker 1: get to see an extended run. We'll see what the
- 3:48Speaker 1: accuracy looks like when we get to see an extended run.
- 3:50Speaker 1: We'll see what the mobility looks like when we get
- 3:52Speaker 1: to see an extended run. But it does feel like
- 3:55Speaker 1: he was brought in and sort of fit in right
- 3:58Speaker 1: with all the other guys in that quarterback in terms
- 4:00Speaker 1: of the tools that he brings.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Yeah, and they brought him in already having Aaron Nolan
- 4:06Speaker 2: on the rosters, so he was a guy that Ryan
- 4:09Speaker 2: Day really really liked, and Dylan Ralo was already already
- 4:13Speaker 2: committed to Ohio State, so Julian Sayan went off to Alabama.
- 4:17Speaker 2: But you know, when Saying had the opportunity to leave Alabama,
- 4:21Speaker 2: he pretty quickly looked to Ohio State and Ryan Day
- 4:23Speaker 2: and wanted to play for Ryan Day. And so they
- 4:26Speaker 2: have this connection and clearly Saying likes the offense, Ryan
- 4:30Speaker 2: Day likes what Julian Saying can do. Chip Kelly raves
- 4:34Speaker 2: about his maturity and ability to run the offense. So
- 4:40Speaker 2: everybody's saying all of the right things publicly, and then
- 4:43Speaker 2: you did see him basically, you know, climbed the depth
- 4:48Speaker 2: chart and move past lick Keen Olsen was the third
- 4:51Speaker 2: string guy. So I want to see more five of twelve,
- 4:56Speaker 2: Like I said, in the regular season, not that great,
- 4:58Speaker 2: but we did see glimpse this was in practice last
- 5:01Speaker 2: year where you're like, oh, okay, yeah, I definitely see it.
- 5:06Speaker 2: I see what they're talking about because he was an
- 5:07Speaker 2: aggressive freshman quarterback in some of those practices that we saw.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Yeah, and you feel like we saw a lot more
- 5:13Speaker 1: of him during the practices in the fall when they
- 5:15Speaker 1: were running those kind of side by side fields and
- 5:18Speaker 1: even in the spring where you got you could see
- 5:21Speaker 1: different guys running the same basic plays against sort of
- 5:25Speaker 1: an amalgamation of the ones and the twos on defense,
- 5:28Speaker 1: and he didn't look wildly out of place as a
- 5:30Speaker 1: true freshman. That's a very impressive marker for his career.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Well obviously, as I said, to get to see a
- 5:37Speaker 1: lot more about of him once spring ball does open.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Next guy is Lincoln Keenholtz. He is, and this is
- 5:43Speaker 1: bizarre to say, the most experienced player in that quarterback room,
- 5:48Speaker 1: having arrived at Ohio State in June of twenty twenty three. Boy,
- 5:52Speaker 1: so long ago. Boy, he you know, basically a year
- 5:55Speaker 1: and a half at Ohio State eighteen months and that
- 5:58Speaker 1: makes you the grizzled veteran in this quarterback room. He's
- 6:02Speaker 1: someone who when he was getting to campus, and when
- 6:06Speaker 1: he was first on campus in twenty twenty three, you
- 6:08Speaker 1: heard a ton of good stuff. The coaching staff really
- 6:12Speaker 1: really liked him. He got thrown into the fire in
- 6:15Speaker 1: sort of an unfair kind of way in that cotton
- 6:18Speaker 1: ball at the end of that year, and the numbers
- 6:19Speaker 1: didn't look great from that game. But that's one where
- 6:22Speaker 1: I think you really have to kind of go that
- 6:24Speaker 1: really wasn't a fair spot to get put into and
- 6:27Speaker 1: then didn't end up throwing a pass, as you said
- 6:30Speaker 1: this year, So you know, he's been here for eighteen months,
- 6:33Speaker 1: but he's almost as much of an unknown in some
- 6:35Speaker 1: way as Julian saying is he is.
- 6:38Speaker 2: And Olivia it was ton of twenty five or Sowtone
- 6:42Speaker 2: of twenty two as a as a true freshman in
- 6:45Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and yeah, it came to Ohio State
- 6:49Speaker 2: knowing that he was going to need to develop and
- 6:51Speaker 2: has also has said all the right things about developing
- 6:55Speaker 2: at Ohio State, and like, when you're here for two
- 6:58Speaker 2: years as a quarterback and you really have played, the
- 7:00Speaker 2: questions are like, so why are you still here? Like
- 7:03Speaker 2: you know you can transfer right like by you know
- 7:07Speaker 2: what's wrong? Are you are you not allowed to leave
- 7:10Speaker 2: the state? You know, questions like that, and he has
- 7:13Speaker 2: talked about, I know he said it before the season, like,
- 7:16Speaker 2: if I don't win a job here, the coaching that
- 7:18Speaker 2: I'm going to get, if I don't win a job
- 7:19Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, the coaching that I'm going to
- 7:22Speaker 2: get is going to help me prepare to compete for
- 7:25Speaker 2: the job in twenty twenty five. So got a really
- 7:28Speaker 2: good approach and a really solid athlete. It's going to
- 7:32Speaker 2: be a fun competition to watch. But yeah, like he
- 7:38Speaker 2: didn't get to play much this year, and so he's
- 7:40Speaker 2: gonna have to show some things in spring and beyond that,
- 7:44Speaker 2: if there is beyond that. And I hate even saying that,
- 7:48Speaker 2: but we're talking about quarterbacks. So we kind of have to,
- 7:51Speaker 2: you know, break down the fourth wall or whatever and
- 7:53Speaker 2: just be more open about these things when we talk
- 7:55Speaker 2: about it, because you know, if somebody's probably leaving based
- 7:58Speaker 2: on you know what, and I all can keep you
- 8:03Speaker 2: can help keep you. But playing time is the kind
- 8:05Speaker 2: of the ultimate thing that that quarterbacks want. And and
- 8:09Speaker 2: if the young guy gets beaten out by a young guy,
- 8:11Speaker 2: then that's you know, that's that's some of the writing
- 8:14Speaker 2: on the wall that we always talked about with transfers.
- 8:17Speaker 1: It is, and I do wonder how much that applies here.
- 8:21Speaker 1: It's certainly a possibility. But he's also he has three
- 8:25Speaker 1: years of eligibility remaining. He red shirted in twenty twenty three,
- 8:29Speaker 1: and so you he does have this year, and then
- 8:32Speaker 1: he has twenty twenty five, and then he has twenty
- 8:34Speaker 1: twenty six, and he has twenty twenty seven. So you know,
- 8:37Speaker 1: even if he if they do ultimately end at the
- 8:39Speaker 1: side that Julian Saye wins the job, you are number one.
- 8:42Speaker 1: You're one snap away from going from QB two to
- 8:45Speaker 1: QB one. We have seen that happen many times in
- 8:47Speaker 1: the past. And you also, you have two more years.
- 8:50Speaker 1: And if you believe you're getting developed well at Ohio State,
- 8:53Speaker 1: and based on the track record, you would certainly think
- 8:56Speaker 1: that you would feel like you're getting developed pretty well
- 8:58Speaker 1: at Ohio State, and you're one snap away from being
- 9:00Speaker 1: the starter in what could be again a sixteen type
- 9:04Speaker 1: game season for Ohio State in twenty twenty five. That
- 9:08Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a terrible option as opposed to going
- 9:10Speaker 1: in transferring in somewhere else after spring ball and having
- 9:13Speaker 1: to learn a new playbook and all that kind of stuff.
- 9:15Speaker 1: So I don't know that that's totally a given. The
- 9:18Speaker 1: other interesting piece of his story is he came in
- 9:21Speaker 1: a year earlier than Julian saying, but he doesn't really
- 9:24Speaker 1: have a full year of head start on Julian Saye.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Number one. He came in in the in the summer,
- 9:31Speaker 1: so then you missed out in the spring, and that
- 9:33Speaker 1: was a result of him being a three sport athlete
- 9:36Speaker 1: and wanting to finish his high school career with his
- 9:39Speaker 1: you know, with his high school team, and that was
- 9:41Speaker 1: you know, that's a very very noble and admirable thing
- 9:44Speaker 1: to want to do. But it also means he missed
- 9:48Speaker 1: out on spring ball. And then based on where he
- 9:51Speaker 1: played his high school ball, he missed out on he
- 9:55Speaker 1: wasn't playing you know, Julian Saye is playing like big
- 9:58Speaker 1: school California high high level competition, and Lincoln Kinghols was
- 10:03Speaker 1: playing in South Dakota. So there's probably a little bit
- 10:06Speaker 1: of a step up learning curve there for him that
- 10:09Speaker 1: there isn't necessarily And you know, we'll get to ta
- 10:11Speaker 1: V in Saint Clair, who's maybe running into this to
- 10:14Speaker 1: a lesser degree, but this is this is something where
- 10:17Speaker 1: it's probably a little bit bit of a bigger step
- 10:19Speaker 1: up for him. So that six month head start might
- 10:22Speaker 1: just sort of make him more even with Julian saying.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very valid. And when you watch some of
- 10:29Speaker 2: his highlights in high school, you can tell he's the
- 10:31Speaker 2: best player on the field at all times. He's the
- 10:33Speaker 2: best athlete, the best runner, probably the best safety if
- 10:37Speaker 2: he did any of that, but just very very good
- 10:41Speaker 2: at a very low level, the relative level, because I
- 10:46Speaker 2: remember talking to his high school head coach and he's like, yeah,
- 10:50Speaker 2: we have we've had good players here, but the good
- 10:52Speaker 2: players in this area generally end up at like North
- 10:54Speaker 2: Dakota State or South Dakota State or you know something
- 10:57Speaker 2: like that. He's like, oh, we did have one guy
- 10:59Speaker 2: that ended up at Minnesota once. And that's really the
- 11:03Speaker 2: extent of it. So you're not going to go from
- 11:06Speaker 2: from South Dakota from peer high school to then Ohio
- 11:11Speaker 2: State and not have to grow with it. I think
- 11:14Speaker 2: I think some of the good news is that he
- 11:16Speaker 2: saw Devin Brown wait three years before moving on and
- 11:20Speaker 2: and and tried to win the job and compete for it,
- 11:24Speaker 2: and was there as a backup. And I'm not saying
- 11:27Speaker 2: Lincoln Kenoles is going to be the backup because I've
- 11:30Speaker 2: seen I've not seen enough from Julian saying who think
- 11:32Speaker 2: he's definitely going to win the job other than the
- 11:35Speaker 2: fact that he's the highest remaining person on the depth chart,
- 11:38Speaker 2: But he's not so high that he's not catchable by
- 11:43Speaker 2: Lincoln Keenholes. And you know, two three years in you
- 11:47Speaker 2: start to you know, this is your your your first
- 11:50Speaker 2: language by that point, like you're your native speaker of this.
- 11:54Speaker 2: And uh, I'm fascinated to see what it looks like
- 11:57Speaker 2: when he has the opportunity to be getting at least
- 12:02Speaker 2: a third of the snaps in the spring, because when
- 12:04Speaker 2: we see him, he's usually fourth fifth and getting some
- 12:08Speaker 2: you know, third, fourth fifth and not getting as much
- 12:11Speaker 2: work as as he could. And boy, he's probably gonna
- 12:14Speaker 2: get all the work he can take in the spring.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. There are lots of guys who are
- 12:18Speaker 1: veterans coming back who might might have an easy spring,
- 12:21Speaker 1: or not an easy spring, but a lighter spring workload.
- 12:24Speaker 1: Let's say I do not think either of those quarterbacks
- 12:26Speaker 1: are going to be part of that now, and I
- 12:28Speaker 1: don't think Tavi in Saint Clair is either I have
- 12:31Speaker 1: already seen well Tony, he's a five star quarterback coming in.
- 12:35Speaker 1: So so there are people who cannot wait to tell
- 12:38Speaker 1: you that secretly he may be the one who wins
- 12:40Speaker 1: the job. And to me coming in, you know, again,
- 12:44Speaker 1: he did not play massive, massive schools. You know he's not.
- 12:48Speaker 1: He was not playing Lakewood, Saint Ed's or you know,
- 12:52Speaker 1: Cincinnati Mohler, you know teams like that. You know, big, big,
- 12:55Speaker 1: impressive Ohio high school teams. He's playing some smaller school
- 12:58Speaker 1: schools played for Bell found So that's just a function
- 13:01Speaker 1: of the league that his high school played in. But
- 13:04Speaker 1: you're not coming in having played this like national schedule
- 13:07Speaker 1: by any means. And generally, if a true freshman quarterback
- 13:11Speaker 1: comes in and wins the job, it is either an
- 13:14Speaker 1: unbelievably great piece of news for your team or an
- 13:18Speaker 1: unbelievably bad piece of news for your team.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way things look right now, I had
- 13:27Speaker 2: somebody asking me about him, like, so, you know, how
- 13:29Speaker 2: good is he? What kind of level of play was he?
- 13:32Speaker 2: I'm like, well, and this is no disrespect to farmers,
- 13:35Speaker 2: but I said, he's throwing against farmers and in terms
- 13:38Speaker 2: of his high school competition and you know, growing up
- 13:41Speaker 2: and being part of that same level. Like I couldn't
- 13:45Speaker 2: imagine somebody going from that to Ohio State and not
- 13:48Speaker 2: having to really slow things down and grow. But he
- 13:51Speaker 2: is saying all that. He's very advanced, and he looks
- 13:55Speaker 2: like you want a college quarterback to look in every
- 13:58Speaker 2: single way. And he's athletic, and we've seen him grow
- 14:02Speaker 2: over the years in camps and seven on sevens to
- 14:05Speaker 2: be like from a no brilliant they offer this guy
- 14:09Speaker 2: to like, oh, I see you know, you see each
- 14:12Speaker 2: year him grow and see why they offered him. And
- 14:15Speaker 2: so yeah, when we've seen true freshman start at Ohio State,
- 14:19Speaker 2: it's not right away. It was not right away for
- 14:22Speaker 2: Treell Prior, was not right away for Braxton Miller. I
- 14:25Speaker 2: think we've talked recently. I remember people wanting Justin'swick to
- 14:28Speaker 2: start in two thousand and two over Craig Crenzel. Imagine
- 14:30Speaker 2: if that would have happened. So yeah, freshman starting. Freshman
- 14:35Speaker 2: quarterbacks are nice on the video games, but they're not
- 14:38Speaker 2: always so nice on the field.
- 14:40Speaker 1: But you.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Know, you might start slowly, but there are some guys
- 14:46Speaker 2: as true freshmen there might be some growing pains, but
- 14:49Speaker 2: by the time you hit November December something like that,
- 14:52Speaker 2: then they stopped being freshman and they start being something more.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Yeah, he is someone who he's a little bit of
- 14:59Speaker 1: a put a pin in it, and let's revisit this
- 15:01Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, or at least in November twenty
- 15:04Speaker 1: twenty five. The talent is there, the height is there.
- 15:08Speaker 1: He's been around the Ohio State football program as much
- 15:11Speaker 1: as just about anyone who is not literally actively on
- 15:14Speaker 1: the team over the last couple of years. That's going
- 15:17Speaker 1: to give him a nice head start as well. But
- 15:20Speaker 1: you do not want if you have national championship aspirations,
- 15:23Speaker 1: you do not want to have a true freshman quarterback,
- 15:26Speaker 1: almost regardless of how talented that true freshman quarterback is,
- 15:30Speaker 1: and Avian ze Claiir is talented, but you're going to
- 15:33Speaker 1: want to have a year of learning behind some guys
- 15:36Speaker 1: with a little more experience, and then you see where
- 15:38Speaker 1: you know, see where he is in a year. The
- 15:41Speaker 1: last question, then Tony is who else is there another
- 15:44Speaker 1: guy that they need to bring in there? Ryanda has
- 15:47Speaker 1: talked about liking to have four scholarship quarterbacks in that room.
- 15:52Speaker 1: He had five last year, he has three right now,
- 15:55Speaker 1: what is the likelihood or you know, do you think
- 15:58Speaker 1: that's something that they're going to be looking to bring in.
- 16:00Speaker 1: And if they do bring someone in, and this would
- 16:02Speaker 1: presumably be after spring, my assumption is this is probably
- 16:06Speaker 1: not someone who's going to be immediately the front runner
- 16:09Speaker 1: for the starting position.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're going to bring somebody in. And
- 16:13Speaker 2: you know, you got to figure right now, they have
- 16:15Speaker 2: a total of one hundred and ninety five career passing
- 16:18Speaker 2: yards on the roster, and that's just including the quarterbacks.
- 16:21Speaker 2: There may be some random receiver passing yards or something
- 16:24Speaker 2: like that. I don't think there are, but you want
- 16:27Speaker 2: to Yes, Ryan Day wants four, but he also wants
- 16:30Speaker 2: to have somebody who's done this before. And the last
- 16:33Speaker 2: time Looking Keynols did this, he was running for his
- 16:35Speaker 2: life against Missouri at the end of the twenty twenty
- 16:38Speaker 2: three season. So yeah, I think they do want to
- 16:41Speaker 2: bring somebody in. But it's an interesting thing, like can
- 16:45Speaker 2: you convince somebody who has starting experience and that is good?
- 16:51Speaker 2: So could you convince Will Howard or somebody like of
- 16:55Speaker 2: that level that you can come here and compete for
- 16:58Speaker 2: the job while also convincing insane and look at Keynolds.
- 17:02Speaker 2: He's not coming here. You know, the job is still
- 17:04Speaker 2: wide open, and so there's this maybe you have to
- 17:08Speaker 2: dial it down. It can't be Will Howard. Has to
- 17:10Speaker 2: be somebody like, you know, five eighths of Will Howard
- 17:14Speaker 2: or you know, sixth seventh. It can't be quite that
- 17:17Speaker 2: level because you don't want to scare anybody away, but
- 17:20Speaker 2: still somebody that is good enough. Should the young guys
- 17:24Speaker 2: not work out that your season is not completely lost.
- 17:26Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fascinating to see what ry Day
- 17:29Speaker 2: does there and how he does that, how he massages things,
- 17:32Speaker 2: and how they operate.
- 17:34Speaker 1: I think if we're gonna put this in terms of
- 17:36Speaker 1: former Big twelve quarterbacks like Will Howard who transferred from
- 17:39Speaker 1: Kansas State, you're not getting a Dylan Gabriel he went
- 17:41Speaker 1: from Oklahoma to Oregon. You're not getting a Will Howard necessarily,
- 17:45Speaker 1: who went from Kansas State to Ohio State. You might
- 17:47Speaker 1: be getting like an Alan Bowman Hype who went from
- 17:51Speaker 1: you know, he kind of ping ponged around a bunch.
- 17:53Speaker 1: I'm not going to get the order of this right,
- 17:55Speaker 1: but it was something like Texas Tech to Michigan to
- 17:58Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, and there might have been another stop in
- 18:00Speaker 1: there somewhere where you get kind of the veteran journeyman
- 18:04Speaker 1: kind of type. And we sort of always shorthand this
- 18:07Speaker 1: as the Chris Chugganoff type. And chug went to West
- 18:11Speaker 1: Virginia and started a couple of games, but was not
- 18:15Speaker 1: the like multi year starter or anything like that. And
- 18:18Speaker 1: he came in and was an incredibly valuable backup for
- 18:21Speaker 1: Ohio State and came in and played some very meaningful
- 18:23Speaker 1: snaps at certain times, and was he you know, the
- 18:26Speaker 1: reason we call this the you know, the Chris Chugganoff
- 18:29Speaker 1: type model is because he was like the perfect example
- 18:32Speaker 1: of what they're looking for right here, where it's a
- 18:33Speaker 1: guy who's played before, a guy who's a veteran, a
- 18:36Speaker 1: guy who's not coming in assuming he's going to be
- 18:38Speaker 1: the starter necessarily, and someone who can come in and
- 18:42Speaker 1: if you need a break glass interior type in case
- 18:44Speaker 1: of emergency type of guy. That's what you're looking for.
- 18:47Speaker 1: So we will see who they can find. If they
- 18:50Speaker 1: can find someone that's probably more of a post spring
- 18:53Speaker 1: conversation the boy, is there going to be plenty to
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