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Payton Whitm- I mean WITHMORE · Johnjay & Rich On Demand

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  Speaker 1: So I talked to my son Dutch yesterday. He said
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  Speaker 1: he saw the Odyssey movie. He said, it's one of
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  Speaker 1: if it's not the best movie he's ever seen in
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  Speaker 1: his life, it's top two or three.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then a guy I talked to yesterday said he
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  Speaker 1: didn't like it, that he was woke, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how that movie woke, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So I was gonna kind of get into it on
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  Speaker 1: the air today and I thought, wait a minute, here's
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  Speaker 1: Peyton with more.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I also got to go see The Odyssey, and I
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  Speaker 3: really enjoyed. The more I think about it, the more
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, gosh, I was a great movie. But I
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  Speaker 3: got to be honest, I really didn't know much about
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  Speaker 3: The Odyssey, and I feel like it's one of those
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  Speaker 3: movies where you kind of do have to have an
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  Speaker 3: idea of what you're about to walk into or you're
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  Speaker 3: probably going to be a little bit lost. So I
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  Speaker 3: have a breakdown of some of the things that you
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  Speaker 3: should know before you go and see The Odyssey.
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  Speaker 4: This weekend excellent, OK, I'm going to Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, too, is my son Dutch. He saw
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  Speaker 1: it just a normal theater, not even an imax, and
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  Speaker 1: he loved it. Yeah he's yeah, But okay, go, what do.
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  Speaker 2: We need to know?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? So first, what is the Odyssey? So the Odyssey
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  Speaker 3: is an epic poem written almost three thousand years ago
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  Speaker 3: by the ancient Greek poet Homer. So kind of think
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  Speaker 3: of Homer as like the Steven Spielberg and the guy
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  Speaker 3: who wrote Game of Thrones of ancient Greece.
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  Speaker 4: That's him.
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  Speaker 3: So he wrote the Iliad, which is about the Trojan War,
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  Speaker 3: but the Odyssey is what happens after the war. The
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  Speaker 3: Odyssey is his journey. So Odysseus he is the guy
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  Speaker 3: that is on.
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  Speaker 4: The journey for the honest.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is Matt Damon's character. He is the king
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  Speaker 3: of Ithaca. He's famous because he's not the strongest warrior,
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  Speaker 3: but he's the smartest. So he's the guy who always
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  Speaker 3: has the plan. He comes up with the idea of
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  Speaker 3: the Trojan Horse. So basically, if Achilles is Captain America,
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  Speaker 3: Odysseus is iron Man.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, gotcha, Okay, So.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of the story, Odysseus he wins the Trojan War,
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  Speaker 3: Now this is not a spoiler, this is just I
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  Speaker 3: mean history. So he wants to go home to his
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  Speaker 3: wife and his son, that's simple. But the gods are
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  Speaker 3: mad at him. So what should have taken him only
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  Speaker 3: a few weeks to go home takes him ten years
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  Speaker 3: to do all of this. So in those ten years,
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  Speaker 3: he fights the cyclops sea monsters, which is sirens, angry god, storms, shipwrecks,
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  Speaker 3: all of those things. So every kind of like it's
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  Speaker 3: like a new journey every chapter throughout this story. So
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  Speaker 3: Greek mythology, unlike modern movies, it's like the gods aren't
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  Speaker 3: just watching, they're actively ruining people's lives. So kind of
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  Speaker 3: think like if the Avengers were like emotionally unstable and
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  Speaker 3: constantly beefing with humans. Heart godha is like the comparison
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  Speaker 3: of what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that's really good.
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  Speaker 3: This is probably the biggest talking point in the most
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  Speaker 3: consistent point of the movie The Odyssey Zeus's law. So
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  Speaker 3: in the original Odyssey poem, they don't go around saying
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  Speaker 3: Zeus's law. There's something called zena, which is basically means
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  Speaker 3: sacred hospitality. So if someone shows up to your home,
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  Speaker 3: you feed them, you protect them. You don't rob them,
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  Speaker 3: you don't kill them, and you don't abuse your power
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  Speaker 3: over them. If you're the guest, you respect the home,
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  Speaker 3: you don't overstay, and you don't steal. So if you
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  Speaker 3: break this, you're not only offending the other person, you
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  Speaker 3: are offending Zeus himself.
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  Speaker 2: Those rules to live by today too. Absolutely don't kill them.
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  Speaker 4: It is not literally.
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  Speaker 3: Zeus's law is this movie's morals compet like it's like,
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  Speaker 3: don't be rude. It just becomes like, how do you
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  Speaker 3: treat people when you have power over them?
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  Speaker 2: They talk about this in the movie.
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  Speaker 3: They don't talk about it. They just keep bringing up
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  Speaker 3: Zeus's law. So if you don't know what Zeus's law,
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  Speaker 3: you're kind of like, huh, But you end up figuring
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  Speaker 3: it out as everyone's you know, continuing to talk about
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  Speaker 3: Zeus's lawn. And Odysseus comes across all of these challenges,
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  Speaker 3: so you're gonna meet Poseidon. Poseidon is the biggest one.
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  Speaker 3: He is. He hates Odysseus because Odysseus blinds Poseidon's son,
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  Speaker 3: which is the Cyclops.
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, yes, and his daughter Mermaid of course.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, no, that's King Triton. So Poseidon or Poseidon, he
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  Speaker 3: spent ten years making sure that Odysseus can't go home.
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  Speaker 3: So literally, imagine if the ocean literally hated your guts.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's them.
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  Speaker 3: So you have the Cyclops, he's the one eyed giant,
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  Speaker 3: you have a you have a scene with the Cyclops.
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  Speaker 3: To me personally, probably one of the most haunting sounds
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  Speaker 3: I've ever heard from a non horror movie.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I said too.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is like it is in haunting is truly
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  Speaker 3: the only word that I can use to describe that.
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  Speaker 3: You're also gonna meet Circe. Circe she is like a
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  Speaker 3: really cool character. She is a sorceress, but she's not
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  Speaker 3: a witch. She also kind of has one of those
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  Speaker 3: scenes where it's giving horror movie but it's not a
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  Speaker 3: horror movie. That one was absolutely wild. You're also gonna
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  Speaker 3: run into a scene with the sirens. So sirens are
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  Speaker 3: one of the most misunderstood mythical creatures. People think that
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  Speaker 3: they're mermaids, but they're not. They're mythical beings who's singing
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  Speaker 3: is so beautiful and captivating that sailors literally steer their
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  Speaker 3: ships towards the sound and it leads them to the
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  Speaker 3: rocks to their death. Oh so this is basically like
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  Speaker 3: mythology's version of catfishing.
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  Speaker 4: Got it, man, That's cool. Yeah, and I'm excited to
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  Speaker 4: see it. Now you have the Bird.
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  Speaker 3: The Beard is played by Travis Scott. Now we were
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  Speaker 3: talking about this yesterday. I felt like seeing Travis Scott
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  Speaker 3: kind of took me out of the movie a little
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  Speaker 3: bit because I know he's just such a famous rapper.
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  Speaker 3: When I kind of saw some breakdowns online of this,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, actually, Christopher Nolan is a genius for
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  Speaker 3: having Travis Scott play the Bard. Because a bird is
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  Speaker 3: an ancient storyteller. So before books, people they memorize these
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  Speaker 3: stories and perform them out loud. So imagine someone combining
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  Speaker 3: like a rapper, a singer, a spoken word artist in
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  Speaker 3: a historian that's a baird. So using a rapper who
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  Speaker 3: literally uses his words as a storyline. I literally have
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  Speaker 3: goosebumps right now, Like that is so dope. Then you
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  Speaker 3: have Penelope that's played by Anne Hathaway. She is Odysseus,
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  Speaker 3: his wife, so she's kind of she is the premise, right,
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  Speaker 3: she has all of these suitors who want to come
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  Speaker 3: for her. Then you have Till Machis, who plays Tom Holland.
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  Speaker 3: That's Odysseus's son, Penelope's son, and he's trying to fight
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  Speaker 3: off of these all.
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  Speaker 4: Of these suitors, the people that want to come take
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  Speaker 4: the people don't want to come.
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  Speaker 3: And take his place, right, but everybody thinks Odysseus is dead.
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  Speaker 3: So Penelope, she's kind of like she's like taken her
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  Speaker 3: time when it's coming to picking one of these suitors. Athena,
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  Speaker 3: she's played by Zendia. She is team Odysseus. She constantly
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  Speaker 3: helps him, and she is the goddess of wisdom, so
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  Speaker 3: it makes sense that she's favoring the clever hero. The
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  Speaker 3: reason that everyone is so obsessed with this story is
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  Speaker 3: because without the Odyssey, we probably wouldn't get Lord of
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  Speaker 3: the Rings, right, Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter, Star Wars,
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  Speaker 3: anything like that.
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  Speaker 4: So basically, three thousand years old, they were writing sci
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  Speaker 4: five years a fantasy.
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  Speaker 3: Then the symbolism of this movie, it's about temptation with
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  Speaker 3: the sirens, pride with the Cyclops, patients with Penelope, perseverance,
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  Speaker 3: perseverance with Odysseus, and then finding your way home after
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  Speaker 3: you've changed.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. The only problem is that for me
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  Speaker 2: is that it's a three hour movie.
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  Speaker 3: But I just don't feel that way, John Jay, I'm
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  Speaker 3: telling you. It's one of those movies that's so action
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  Speaker 3: packed that you're like.
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  Speaker 2: What weird? Though, Here's what's weird for me is like
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  Speaker 2: this happened with Bridgerton.
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  Speaker 1: Is when you're gonna get on social media and then
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  Speaker 1: you see the cast taking selfies with each other.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like wait a.
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  Speaker 1: Minute, oh dz is Sark Travis Scott taking his selfie
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  Speaker 1: on a boat. Yeah, like wait a minute, the bridgeton
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  Speaker 1: and when Bridgerton cast is doing tiktoks and.
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  Speaker 2: In the uniform, I was like, what I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: that back then.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the best part of that just tells
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  Speaker 3: you that their story telling, their acting, and their performance
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  Speaker 3: really brought you to that time that you don't like,
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  Speaker 3: you forget that these are like normal people that you might.
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  Speaker 4: Run into the gray and you know, like they they
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  Speaker 4: didn't do it like hardly any cg I at all.
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  Speaker 4: It's like all practice. So they built a trojan horse.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that was a true story.
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  Speaker 3: In what you thought that the Odyssey was a true story.
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  Speaker 1: That was true story stuff like to tell you kept
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  Speaker 1: hearing about this psychlop stuff and I was like, that.
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  Speaker 3: Was it was just it's a one I.
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  Speaker 2: Feel like Snoop Dogg and Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 4: It's good to learn about history, your history.
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  Speaker 1: We got a nice job Peyton. That was Peyton with
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  Speaker 1: more That was great. That was our first Peyton with
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  Speaker 1: more segment and that was great.