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The St. Louis Cardinals Have Become Nationally Irrelevant | Charlie Marlow Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  What's up everybody? Charlie Marlowe here in my Tony
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  Larussa transition lenses want to talk trade deadline.
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  It's the day after State of the Cardinals organization.
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  Fair to say, not in a very good place right now.
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  So let's talk about it. It's kind of sad actually, where
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  the Cardinals are relative to the National Baseball landscape,
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  because I have to say, it just feels like the Cardinals are are
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  pretty much irrelevant to to baseball overall in terms of
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  being a contender. Now, obviously it could get way
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  worse, right? They could tank, they could lose
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  100 games. It hasn't gotten to that.
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  Although what 2023 was really bad.
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  What I'm talking about is we're used to a team that that matters
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  in Saint Louis, right? I mean, you can go back.
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  I'm not even talking about going back to Stan Musial and Bob
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  Gibson and all that. But let's just take, since I've
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  been here, 2008 and those teams, 2011 to 2015, magical runs,
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  Cardinal Devil Magic, you know, they won a World Series there.
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  They obviously won one in 2006. But all those teams I'm talking
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  about, and you can, you can say 2009 too, but 11 to 15, the
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  Cardinals were a team that had to be dealt with, right?
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  Even if they didn't win the World Series, they got to the
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  NLCS, what, 11121314 won 100 games and 15.
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  But they were a factor. They were a force to be reckoned
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  with, whether it was the National League Central or the
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  National League overall or even all of baseball in the World
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  Series. You had to feel the Cardinals,
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  you know what I'm saying? Like, you were going to feel the
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  Cardinals, they were going to make their presence felt and
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  known and they were a factor and everybody was talking about them
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  and they mattered and they were important.
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  And look, the Cardinals will always be important to Saint
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  Louis. And there are fans here that are
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  always going to be ride or die with them.
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  That's not what I'm talking about.
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  It's just I feel like it's been so long since the Cardinals have
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  really been nationally relevant, a real, real playoff contender.
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  And I hate to say it, but like when it's been three years since
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  the post season now, I think most people assume they're not
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  going to make the playoffs this year.
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  I think that's fair to say. And you've sold two out of the
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  last three trade deadlines. You you begin to become or you
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  already are an afterthought. That's that's sad.
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  I hate to say that I think I'm being fair.
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  The Cardinals have become an afterthought across Major League
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  Baseball. They're no longer A-Team.
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  You think about, you worry about, you concern yourself with
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  if, if you're if you're another team looking to win a World
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  Series, looking to win a Pennant, whatever it is, or just
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  the National Baseball conversation.
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  Go back in the day, there'd be power rankings and all that.
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  The Cardinals were always up there, top five, top 10.
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  John Moselock was being talked about as, if not the best, one
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  of the best GMs or Pobos and all of baseball, and he was for the
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  first half of his tenure. I don't know what the hell
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  happened in the second-half. We'll talk about that another
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  day. But it's just, it's sad where
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  the franchise is right now. There's so much fan apathy.
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  I went to a game the other day and don't get me wrong, it was
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  super hot. It was Saturday night game
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  against the Padres when they had all those bean balls and all
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  that. It was a freaking wet heat.
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  A wet heat. I mean, you were dripping if
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  you're sitting out in the sun. This is a 615 game.
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  But there was just nobody in the stands Saturday night.
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  And I was looking the Saturday crowd, the Sunday crowd.
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  I think the announced attendance for tickets sold was something
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  like 25,026 thousand. We all know there's not nearly
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  as many people at Busch Stadium. You can just roll up there and
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  park super easy, right? Late July in Saint Louis, it
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  should be Pennant race time. The place should be packed.
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  People should be excited. That's another thing.
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  Look, the Cardinals are always going to matter.
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  That's not what I'm saying. But like, they don't matter
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  nearly as much. And I also feel like the
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  Cardinals, they went on this downturn at the worst time
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  possible for sports because coming off COVID.
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  And I know the Cardinals were good in in 22, don't get me
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  wrong, but like coming off COVID, people don't need or want
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  sports as much as they they used to, right?
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  Like they got used to not having sports.
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  And also the team jumped around and it's hard to find them on
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  different, different cable providers.
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  And then they're going streaming, which I think is
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  good. But I understand people are
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  like, where's the Cardinals game and all that.
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  And also, look, we know this is not a political thing.
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  It's post COVID, people don't have as much discretionary
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  income, right? So are you going to go down
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  there park? I mean, you can get an easy
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  ticket. You can get cheap tickets these
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  days, but still, you're going to drive downtown, go to the game.
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  Nobody's there. You're not excited about the
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  team, You're not excited about the state of the franchise.
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  You got a big 6070 inch TV at home.
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  You can watch the games at home, although I'm sure the ratings
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  are down there also. I know the ratings a couple
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  years ago, 2023 were really bad. I just feel like, I just feel
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  like the the sentiment I get also just talking to people,
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  talking about the Cardinals, they're just, they're just not
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  what they used to be. And, and by the way, they can,
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  they can get back to that. And I think there's optimism
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  with Heimbloom because it it was time for John Mosaic to go.
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  It just it wasn't working the last couple years.
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  So I have I have high hopes for Heimbloom.
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  But also, when will the Cardinals be good again?
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  I mean, you just, you just sold at the deadline.
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  You got a bunch of a ball prospects.
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  OK. I like the Cardinals position
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  players. I like a lot of them.
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  You just traded almost all of your impact relievers.
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  Look at your rotation next year. Yeah.
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  What? Sonny Gray, we'll call him a
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  one. Are you going to say limit tours
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  of three And then you got Palante Mcgreevy, whoever else
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  they put, you know, are they going to spend money?
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  Would they spend money? Should they spend money?
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  If you're the Cardinals, are they going to spend any money?
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  I feel like next year's going to be the let the kids pitch year.
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  Figure out what you got pitching wise.
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  You still don't know what you got with Jordan Walker, Nolan
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  Gorman. And again, I, I like a lot of
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  the Cardinals position players. I just I can't see the Cardinals
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  being a contender in 2026. I don't think they'll suck.
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  I think they'll be kind of like this year.
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  Will they spend money? Do you think they'll spend
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  money? I don't think they'll spend
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  money. It's just kind of a sad state.
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  This is the time trade deadline. You're supposed to get excited
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  for the for the playoff push, right?
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  September baseball so much fun. And if you thought the Cardinal
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  fans weren't interested now just wait for these last whatever it
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  is. 50 games last two months. Ain't nobody going to watch.
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  Ain't nobody going to go to the games.
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  This is what we saw in 2023 folks.
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  I mean if if you thought the stands were empty.
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  Now think about after they traded a bunch of their guys.
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  Not a bunch. I mean what they traded 3 guys
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  but still like it was a sell off and they're clearly not trying
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  to win anymore in 2025. The players know that, the fans
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  know that and the fans are going to respond saying hey, if you
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  don't care about winning in 2025, I'm not going to care
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  about coming to the ballpark in 2025.
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  There you go. I want to hear from you.
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  What do you think? Any chance the Cardinals make
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  the playoffs next year? I don't think so. 2027, We shall
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  see. Could there be a some type of
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  work stoppage? We'll see.
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  But just overall sad state of affairs for the Cardinals that
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  they're in the spot. Let's hope it doesn't last too
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  many years longer. Let's hope Heimbloom turns it
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  around. Because the saddest part is that
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  the Cardinals have become an afterthought.
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  They've become irrelevant on the National Baseball stage, and
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  that's not the way it should be in baseball heaven.
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  Best fans in baseball. I'm not even joking.
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  The Cardinals are a force. The Saint Louis Cardinals are
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  one of the greatest franchises in baseball history, and that's
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  what they should be most years. And they haven't been in a long
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  time. And it's sad.
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  And we got to get back to the way it was.
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  Don't you agree? Let me know.
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  Give your thoughts. Peace.