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Thomas Massie Says He Has the Votes to Force a Vote on the Epstein Files Transparency Act II (11/9/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. Thomas Massey says that he has enough votes
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  Speaker 1: to get the Epstein Files Transparency Act Part 2 pushed
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  Speaker 1: into the Senate. And considering what just happened when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to the election, I have no doubt that he
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  Speaker 1: has the votes. Can you imagine being one of these
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  Speaker 1: Republican congressmen or women and not getting on board at
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  Speaker 1: this point? You know that Trump's done for. He's here for, what,
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  Speaker 1: two more years? If that, depending on what happens. So
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  Speaker 1: if anyone's going to decouple from him, now's the time.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that when we have this vote for
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  Speaker 1: this discharge petition, obviously everybody's going to be on board.
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  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be shocked to see more than just
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  Speaker 1: a few Republicans come out in support of this. Look,
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  Speaker 1: the tide has turned. And things, politically speaking, are much
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  Speaker 1: different now than they were just a couple days ago.
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  Speaker 1: So people need to understand that. And I think these politicians,
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  Speaker 1: if they want to keep their seats, if they want
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  Speaker 1: to appear that they actually give a shit, well, this
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  Speaker 1: is a good place to start. So today we have
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  Speaker 1: an article from Newsweek and the headline, Epstein files show
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  Speaker 1: down looms as Thomas Massey vows to secure 218 signatures.
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  Speaker 1: This article was authored by Hannah Parry. The push to
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  Speaker 1: force greater disclosure of Jeffrey Epstein-related government records could reach
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  Speaker 1: a critical turning point next week, with Representative Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 1: predicting he will secure the 218 signatures needed to guarantee
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  Speaker 1: a House vote on new transparency legislation. And I have
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  Speaker 1: no doubt he's going to get the votes. We've come
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  Speaker 1: to a point where people understand that hitching their wagon
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  Speaker 1: to a movement that is about to go off a
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  Speaker 1: cliff is not a great idea. And if politicians are anything,
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  Speaker 1: they're survivors, right? Basically like cockroaches. They'll survive anything. The
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  Speaker 1: good ones, they know how to swing with the wind.
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  Speaker 1: And my guess is there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Republicans that are going to come out and say
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  Speaker 1: they support this because they don't have to fear Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump anymore. And that was the big thing, right? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look at what happened to Marjorie Taylor Greene. Look at
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  Speaker 1: what happened to Thomas Massey. Look at what happened to
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Boebert in this last election. Look at what happened
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  Speaker 1: to Nancy Mace. So there was a lot of trepidation
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  Speaker 1: from the right when it comes to coming out and
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  Speaker 1: getting in front of this issue. But I think that's
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  Speaker 1: all going to be a thing of the past now
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  Speaker 1: because nobody's scared of Trump anymore. Massey, a Kentucky Republican,
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  Speaker 1: says he expects to obtain the signatures required for a
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  Speaker 1: discharge petition supporting the Epstein Files Transparency Act 2 when
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  Speaker 1: lawmakers returned to Washington on Monday. The legislation, co-sponsored with
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  Speaker 1: Representative Ro Khanna, a California Democrat, would give Epstein survivors,
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  Speaker 1: state attorney generals, and other authorized officials the ability to
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  Speaker 1: take legal action against the Department of Justice over alleged
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  Speaker 1: failure to comply with the original transparency law. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: do you know, some teeth. And what does it say
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  Speaker 1: about the DOJ that we have to have a law
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  Speaker 1: like this put on the books? You would think that
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  Speaker 1: the most transparent administration in history would actually, you know,
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  Speaker 1: be transparent. But no. They have to be forced to
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  Speaker 1: the table. They have to be forced to do the
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  Speaker 1: right thing. Typical for this administration. When we return next week,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get 218 signatures for Epstein-Files Transparency Act 2, which
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  Speaker 1: guarantees a vote, Massey wrote on X. survivors will be
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  Speaker 1: able to get their own records, state attorney generals can
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  Speaker 1: prosecute crimes, and we can take the DOJ to court
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  Speaker 1: for keeping critical files hidden. And that's the key. There
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  Speaker 1: has to be an enforcement mechanism that makes the DOJ comply,
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  Speaker 1: because they're not going to. And my guess is they're
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  Speaker 1: going to become even more abstinent now. Oh, you beat
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  Speaker 1: our guy? That's it. We're not helping out anymore. That's
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  Speaker 1: the kind of people we're dealing with here. Khanna called
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  Speaker 1: the new legislation the Epstein 2.0 Act, which he said
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  Speaker 1: would allow state attorney generals to prosecute the pedophiles who
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  Speaker 1: abused and trafficked young girls. Well, somebody needs to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we waiting for here? The renewed
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  Speaker 1: effort follows months of political resistance to the original transparency
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  Speaker 1: legislation with the Trump administration and Republican House leadership initially
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  Speaker 1: seeking to prevent a vote. You know how shady that is?
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  Speaker 1: You want to turn off a bunch of people? Try
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  Speaker 1: and stop a vote like this from happening. And the
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  Speaker 1: crazy part of the time is, they didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear it. They didn't want to hear they were making
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  Speaker 1: a gigantic mistake. They didn't want to hear that they
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  Speaker 1: were ostracizing the very people that swept them into power.
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  Speaker 1: They were high on their own hubris. And in their
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  Speaker 1: echo chamber, in their bunker, they thought they could win
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  Speaker 1: this election without any independence. Well, they're wrong. And whoever
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  Speaker 1: gave them that advice is an absolute fucking moron. Newsweek
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  Speaker 1: has reached out to the White House, Massey, Khanna, and
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  Speaker 1: the DOJ for comment. In 2025, House Speaker Mike Johnson
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  Speaker 1: urged his Republican colleagues not to sign the initial discharge petition,
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  Speaker 1: arguing that the House Oversight Committee would provide more details.
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  Speaker 1: The petition would have bypassed Johnson and forced the Epstein-Files
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  Speaker 1: legislation towards a House vote. Well, he couldn't do that, right? Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, the most ineffective speaker maybe in history. Remember
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  Speaker 1: when he told us that Donald Trump was the Serpico
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  Speaker 1: of Mar-a-Lago and that he was actually an undercover agent
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  Speaker 1: sent to stop Epstein? And of course, the base, they
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  Speaker 1: sucked it up. Oh, well, Donald Trump tried to stop Epstein. No,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't. Not for a second. And he certainly wasn't
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  Speaker 1: some secret agent. President Donald Trump also took to Truth
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  Speaker 1: Social to attack Democrats pursuing disclosure, accusing them of reviving
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  Speaker 1: the Epstein controversy for political purposes. This is merely another
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  Speaker 1: Democrat hoax, he wrote, before adding, it's time to end
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat-Epstein hoax and give the Republicans credit for the great,
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  Speaker 1: even legendary job that they're doing. Oh yeah, legendary job.
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  Speaker 1: Legendary moronic, you blustering buffoon. The amount of gaslighting that
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  Speaker 1: comes from this administration would make Baghdad bobweep. What an
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  Speaker 1: absolute shitshow. Trump's comments drew criticism from survivors who argued
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  Speaker 1: that the disclosure campaign was about accountability rather than party politics. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no shit. I'm certainly not somebody that sits around and
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  Speaker 1: rails on one side or the other. But right is
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  Speaker 1: right and wrong is wrong. And I don't think politics
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  Speaker 1: should get in the way when we're talking about an
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  Speaker 1: issue like this. I mean, listen, we all have our
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  Speaker 1: predisposed political opinions, right? Things we believe in. But I
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  Speaker 1: think when it comes to the most powerful people in
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  Speaker 1: the world, not even the country, the world, engaging in
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  Speaker 1: shit like this, I think that's when we put our
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  Speaker 1: political differences to the side and work together, right? That's
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  Speaker 1: what we should be doing. But there's been none of
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  Speaker 1: that from the Trump administration. Instead, they've pushed people away.
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  Speaker 1: They've attacked people. And they go back on the promises
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  Speaker 1: they made throughout the campaign. So when people turn on them,
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  Speaker 1: when people call them out for that, instead of doing
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  Speaker 1: some reflection, he goes into attack mode. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: wondering why they got absolutely trounced, there it is. People
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  Speaker 1: are done with it. You want to talk about fatigue?
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  Speaker 1: We got Trump fatigue. Mr. President Donald J. Trump, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a registered Republican. Not that that matters because this is
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  Speaker 1: not political, she said. However, I cordially invite you to
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  Speaker 1: the Capitol to meet me in person so you can
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  Speaker 1: understand that this is not a hoax. We are real
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  Speaker 1: human beings. This is real trauma. Can you imagine if
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  Speaker 1: Trump would have just been a good, decent human and
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  Speaker 1: went and met them, sat down with them, and then
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  Speaker 1: told his DOJ to do the right thing, release all
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  Speaker 1: the files, and let the chips fall where they may?
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  Speaker 1: That's what any decent human being would have done. But
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  Speaker 1: we're not talking about a decent human being, are we?
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about the world's biggest narcissist who's so high
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  Speaker 1: on hubris that he can't see what's right in front
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  Speaker 1: of him. We all deserve to know what's in the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files, who's implicated, and how deep the corruption goes,
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  Speaker 1: Massey said at the time. The administration's pressure also exposed
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  Speaker 1: divisions among Republicans. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene publicly acknowledged facing
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  Speaker 1: significant pushback for her support for the petition. while other
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  Speaker 1: Republican lawmakers came under pressure to withdraw their signatures. And
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  Speaker 1: all those Republicans that were bitching and moaning about this,
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  Speaker 1: that lost their seats, good. Enjoy the unemployment line, or
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  Speaker 1: whatever committee you go and work for, but either way,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to be making decisions about the Epstein
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  Speaker 1: files anymore, and we're all better for it. Despite the resistance,
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  Speaker 1: the petition secured its 218th signature, on November 12, 2025,
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  Speaker 1: when newly sworn-in Democratic Representative Adelita Gravala joined the effort.
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  Speaker 1: Trump subsequently reversed course, urging Republicans to support the legislation.
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  Speaker 1: We'll give them everything, he told reporters in the Oval
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  Speaker 1: Office on November 17th. Yeah, how'd that work out? Another
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  Speaker 1: lie from the King of Liars. The House passed the
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  Speaker 1: Bill 427 the following day, and Trump signed it into
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  Speaker 1: law on November 19th. The legislation required the Attorney Generals
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  Speaker 1: to make public the DOJ's records relating to Epstein within
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  Speaker 1: 30 days. with exceptions for protecting victims and certain sensitive information. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: they really hit that out of the park, huh? Bunch
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  Speaker 1: of fucking clowns. However, the signing did not end the dispute.
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  Speaker 1: Massey and Khanna have since accused the Justice Department of
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  Speaker 1: failing to fully comply with the disclosure requirements, prompting their
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  Speaker 1: latest attempt to give survivors and state officials stronger legal
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  Speaker 1: power to challenge withheld records. And that should have been
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  Speaker 1: included the first time around. The fact that there was
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  Speaker 1: no enforcement mechanism was a big deal. And we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: it play out now. The Justice Department began releasing records
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  Speaker 1: on December 19, 2025, the statutory deadline. However, the initial
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  Speaker 1: disclosure prompted criticism over the volume of material released, the
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  Speaker 1: extent of redactions, and the absence of records that survivors
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  Speaker 1: and lawmakers believed should have been made public. On January 30, 2026,
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  Speaker 1: the Justice Department announced that it published more than 3
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  Speaker 1: million additional pages. The department said the combined production amounted
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  Speaker 1: to nearly 3.5 million pages, including more than 2,000 videos
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  Speaker 1: and 180,000 images. The DOJ maintained that material not released
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  Speaker 1: fell into categories including duplicates, privileged records, and material covered
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  Speaker 1: by statutory exceptions and documents unrelated to Epstein and Ghislaine
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell cases. But Massey and Khanna continue to question the
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  Speaker 1: department's compliance The lawmakers asked a federal judge to appoint
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  Speaker 1: a special master or independent monitor to oversee the disclosure process.
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  Speaker 1: Khanna accused the DOJ of failing to protect survivors while
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  Speaker 1: also withholding records. Yeah, all of that. They're guilty of
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  Speaker 1: all of that. And there should be a special counsel yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: The Department of Justice is openly defying the law by
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  Speaker 1: refusing to release the full Epstein files. Millions of files
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  Speaker 1: are being kept away from the public, Khanna said. Massey
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  Speaker 1: was similarly critical of then-Attorney General Pam Bondi. Under her leadership,
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  Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is missing statutory disclosure deadlines, making
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  Speaker 1: excessive redactions, and illegally withholding the Department's internal communications, he said.
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  Speaker 1: The Department has disputed the allegation of noncompliance and says
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  Speaker 1: it has undertaken extensive work to identify, review, and release
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  Speaker 1: responsive records while protecting victims. Oh yeah, they've done great.
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  Speaker 1: I mean... Have you ever seen a job done as
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  Speaker 1: well as what we're seeing here? The DOJ is just
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  Speaker 1: setting a new standard for compliance. Well, according to them. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the rest of us that are here in reality, we
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  Speaker 1: know the truth. And the truth is, the DOJ is
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  Speaker 1: covering this up. And in my opinion, there's not even
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  Speaker 1: a debate anymore. The only question is, how many people
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  Speaker 1: are involved and how far up the food chain it goes.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully, if this second petition goes through, we'll be
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  Speaker 1: a lot closer to those answers. All the information that
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  Speaker 1: goes with this episode can be found in the description box.